This story seems to start in an existing conversation. That’s because it actually does. This was my reply in a conversation over at Stella’s Place last April. One of our Treeper’s was talking about helping his dad downsize, and working with his sisters to clean out some old stuff. In that conversation, I told this really unusual story of an experience related to cleaning out my mother’s home.
I’m hoping some of you have some stories to relate, stories that end with a twist, like this one did. Sometimes life gives strange surprises.
Share a tale or two with us today.
T, my mother was a hoarder before it was a tv thing, and they are mostly probably amateurs. Don’t know, don’t watch. Boy have I got a funny, sad story for you, since Sharon put me in the mood for a good story.
This is one of the gosh darndest stories of my life. Apologies all, this is a long story.
My mother died in 1998, probably one of the peak periods of my life in terms of pressure, stress, kids still in high school, job, etc. She left a house that had a two to three foot wide path through it, with an empty spot or two on the couch, her chair, and less than half her king sized bed. No one had been able to see the kitchen table or counter for many years.
She also had four outbuildings that had to be cleaned out. My brother declared himself “unable to deal with it yet” and in the 4+ months it took to get it done, he remained unable to deal with anything but bringing his wife religiously every weekend to plunder what I’d uncovered that they wanted.
All my life I’d been super ashamed of how we lived, and I was even then. My two sons who were still at home would come help when they weren’t working. My husband did not get back from work until after 7:30 at night, so he was only able to help some on Sundays if I wasn’t at work then.
I was working at Home Depot and I was on the cusp of getting promoted from hourly department head to my first management position. Even though I could only work off days and mornings on the days I closed, I refused to accept help except from my husband and sons, and one of his sisters.
My mother would never tell me where any valuables were, and I couldn’t even find her important papers, which were not in the box at the bank. So, I could not just throw things out, especially papers, and she had all the usual hoarder magazines and newspapers from umpteen years ago, etc.
My sister in law and I found many, many things that made us go, huh? Bags of leaves in the closet, big green garage bags. In one storage building there were garbage bags full of paper towel pasteboard centers and empty milk jugs.
But the all time most baffling one was found in the built in wall hutch in the dining room of the old house. We opened the doors at the bottom, and the first thing I tried to remove was a smaller garbage bag. Only to find it didn’t budge, it was too heavy.
My sister in law had a real appreciation for antiques, and quite a bit of knowledge of them, and while I was miserable, she was ever hopeful of finding great treasure. She shoved me out of the way and began speculating what we might have found, even wondering if it might be a big chunk of gold.
So, I tore open the bag, only to find a big heavy thing wrapped in foil, tore off the foil, which was old and not tearing well. There were layers of paper towels. Our anticipation rose higher. Another layer of foil under paper towels, I’m not kidding, and one last layer of paper towels.
At that point, even I was excited. What could she have treasured that much to have so carefully wrapped and stored it?
Well, it was a big round, kind of flat on the bottom creek rock. I marched outside and tossed it off the porch into the grass and hedges.
Over the years I often wondered about that rock and why she kept it. She was a hoarder, but aside from whatever causes that, she wasn’t mentally ill. Of course, I resigned myself to never knowing. And this is where it gets really weird and interesting.
A few years later I was at work and heard my name being called. A new hire at the Depot introduced herself and explained that our mothers had been best friends. They’d met on a cruise ship, taken trips to Hawaii several times, and had lots of adventures here at home too. I became good friends with the daughter.
Eventually one day, years later when we were having dinner and talking about our moms, I told her and her partner the rock story. She got this really amazed look on her face and said “Menagerie, I can tell you why she had that rock.”
Every New Years the moms cooked black eyed peas and greens. I’m sure you know, it’s a Southern thang. They decided they wanted kraut. My Mama had tons of huge crocks. They made the best friend’s husband take them up Sand Mountain to a wide, shallow creek filled with big rocks.
Apparently they spent an hour or two making him wade and turn over rocks until he found one just the right size and kind of flat on the bottom. Perfect for mashing down the cabbage in the crock. And every year they had kraut on New Years.
My friend and I still laugh about it, and my sister in law was floored to finally have the mystery of Mama’s rock solved.
I had to move many times for work, and as a matter of necessity learned to let it go. I gave away a lot of stuff to a lot of people, I can get more stuff. Over the years I would visit homes and notice my former possessions or be told “I still got that thing”. At this late stage, I still easily have twice what I need.
Since retirement I have been involved in 6 end of life/hospice scenarios. My observation is that people want to hang onto their stuff and maintain routine to the bitter end, refusing to admit the reality of the circumstance. In every instance this course creates division and chaos unnecessarily in the remaining family. The time, money and energy in executing an estate is significant.
My best advice to all in the winter of life is let it go, don’t purposely leave a giant mess for your family. Have hard conversations with family members early. Please forgive my lack of sentiment, these are practical considerations. We are crucified with Christ and raised with him. This life is not our hope.
Amen. Someone else cleans up your life when you’re done with it. I have told my family that they need not feel any obligation to keep anything I have. Only those things that bring them joy. I continue to try to reduce, reduce, reduce and not buy any more stff.
It gives me great peace and comfort to use some of the things that once belonged to my departed loved ones that I miss so much
My dad died too young at age 66. We were very close, only 20 years difference in age as he and mom married at 18 and I arrived shortly thereafter. Dad was a depression era child raised on a 2 mule farm in southern Kentucky, started school in a 1 room schoolhouse and started UK at age 16, the 1st family member to ever go to college. Graduated in 4 years w/ a 5 year degree in Commerce.
A classic overachiever, business and numbers came seemingly natural to him, as did shooting pool, gambling, drinking – thing is pop was a winner at everything but drinking. I followed in his footsteps.
God led dad to Alcoholics Anonymous and at age 46 in 1977 he put the plug in the jug and then he poured his energy into AA, being a founding member of the Token Club, a gathering place for alkies and Serenity House, a 1/2 way house for men alcoholics. I continued to drink and booze caused me many problems – I’d quit for a while, even went a couple years but always back to the bottle. Thanks to God’s Grace I never killed anyone in a car wreck but nearly did myself in a couple times.
Boom – 1996 dad diagnosed with prostate cancer, already spread to the bones and he was dead in 97. Died with grace and dignity never blaming God. Tore me up but I took over his real estate business and mom was a healthy 66 and I took over the day to day chores.
Both mom and dad were active Southern Baptists and I was raised in the church and accepted Jesus at a revival meeting alter call when I was 10 but I had drifted away. Mom and dad became active again in 1977 when dad quit drinking. I was/am a drunk but I loved my mama so I started going to church with her. Then I joined the church and became a member of my dad’s Sunday School class that he’d taught for many years. The men in that class accepted me and showed me so much Christian love – something happened.
Not going into a drunkalog but I was out of control. After one particularly long binge when I came up for air I humbly asked God for help – Feb 19 I’ll celebrate 26 years of sobriety, thank you Jesus.
Breener’s post about comfort from using things our loved ones left behind started my rambling as I look at a black leather jacket hanging on a chairback that I’ve been wearing lately. Used to be one of dad’s favorites and it gives me great comfort wearing it – looks pretty damned good on me too if I do say so myself, lol.
Yeah, I understand. My hubs is slowly drinking himself to death but refuses to even see the problems that it has caused for him, and for me. He gets angry every time I bring it up, so I just don’t anymore. He won’t go to church, doesn’t want to hear about Jesus, and gets furious if I bring up that subject too. I’d love to get rid of this place and move closer to the family I have left, but he stubbornly refuses to budge.
We don’t actually OWN anything, we just caretake it for awhile.
In order to OWN something, any physical THING, we would have to be immortal, and while our souls are, our bodies are not.
Same here.
And, I would also add, PLEASE, get your legal affairs in order as well, while you have the time and mental acuity to do so!
My father died suddenly, at age 77, and it was then that we fully realized just how much he had been covering for my mother, probably for my whole life, but that is a much longer story…
The point is that I already signed on their accounts, they had given me POA, had their wills in order, and had made, and prepaid, for their funeral arrangements.
In the midst of an incredibly difficult time (I was truly Daddy’s little girl, in a good way, and I still miss him every single day, although it has been 17 years) the fact that everything was done ahead of time made such a huge difference!
We are all going to die – it’s just that simple – and denying it or refusing to prepare for it does nothing to prevent it from happening. For the sake of those you love and who will already be reeling from losing you, have the conversations and make your plans now!!
And a good word of advice from Ron Blue, a Christian financial advisor from the 80s… “Do your giving while you’re living, so you’re knowing where it’s going!” 😉
My parents= Salt of the Earth:
°grew up in the Great Depression
°no college education
° stay home mom
° attended church
°volunteered in the community
°researched political issues
°debt free
° put 2 girls through college
° prepaid their own burials
True American Patriots🇺🇲
We are truly from a bygone era
I am so with you on this but my husband doesn’t even want to discuss it. We are both early 70s but have seen what happens when someone else’s time comes and they haven’t prepared the most basic things – like what are your wishes for your final arrangements. Don’t wait until you have that appointment with the attorneys or funeral directors. Too easy to put those things off in a busy life. But at least write down your thoughts and tell your kids where the important info is.
I have done that but now need to light a fire under my husband. My mom died at 102 but had her funeral planned and paid years earlier. It made everything go easier.
I am so sorry you’re dealing with this issue – I have a good friend who is in the same position. Her husband is not a believer and simply refuses to discuss death and, unfortunately, he is holding on to every dime he has because he hopes it’ll keep the kids close, I guess?
My husband is starting to come around to gifting our kids now when they really need it. But he doesn’t seem to care if we lose our house if one of us ends up in a nursing home. It is the only real asset we have and we worked many years to pay for it. I want our kids to have it, so those arrangements are next on my list.
Just went through this with mom. Five kids… nobody wanted to keep the house enough to deal with the next 50 yr flood. We’d already survived two (Claudett in ’79 and Harvey in ’17), and the house is just too old to maintain for older folks.
At least confirm one or more kids wants the house if you have not already done so.
I don’t care if any of the kids want to live here, but I want them to be able to sell it and split money.
The house is too big for just us, but we live in a very nice, safe place. And it does come in handy when the kids and grandkids come to visit. We are blessed with that.
The Nile is a river in Africa. Explain to your husband what will happen should he die without the preparation you encourage. If he is comfortable with the consequences of no action on his part that is a decision you should embrace and plan for. Study the law of succession in your state to anticipate what will happen when either you or he die intestate.
I couldn’t agree more! The POA and health directives are crucial! I was blessed my brother got us to put those in place while my dad was healthy!
My family and I live in the “family home” which is the repository of all the family “stuff”. I’m sentimental about most of it, but always tell my son to let go of what he doesn’t want – I have no more “strings” to them when I’m dead.
RJH, I agree, and am trying to reduce the “stuff”! It’s far too much for one son to have to deal with! I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want my old dolls!
The other thing I will add is to make your decisions about your death with your family before you die. Do you want to be cremated, or no? Where do you want to be interred? These decisions help your children enormously!! If they agree to your decisions while you are alive, the chances are good they won’t argue with each other after you die.
Grief is different for everyone, it often brings out the worst in people. So having the hard decisions out of the way, and the will/financial issues decided makes it easier for your children.
God bless you all!
Yes yes and yes! Even the most loving families can have issues because so many emotions come bubbling up and everything that can be done ahead of time helps to alleviate the possibility of problems.
WE, IMHO expend far to much sentimental investment, and so monetary investment, on the physical ‘remains’, whats left behind, when WE are gone.
The body is just the packaging, just the ‘wrapper’ and while its understandable my wife and I agree that the most efficient, least costly way of disposal is what we prefer.
I have made it known to everyone in my family that my wish is to be cremated, and I’ve also told my husband that if he dies before me that will be his fate as well.
I have been giving to the kids, off and on, all of the valuables,,,,silver, gold rim antique glasses, artwork,,and all of the end of life documents are up to date and in a fireproof safe box. My hubs and I learned, after my step dad, his parents, and my mother all died, that doing all of this and getting things in order is absolutely necessary. They were all hoarders, and we found valuables and important papers in closets and bags, so our kids will not have to do this. Gave us peace of mind.
There’s a lot of peace to be found in letting old things go.
Everything you own owns a part of you. Less can be more, if done thoughtfully.
My late husband and I did all of the advance stuff together, and it was such a blessing throughout the entire process.
Here’s another (kind of funny) angle): I continue to try to change, “let go” of stuff, change how I’m doing things. And, specifically, when it comes to passing things on (that they have clearly indicated they value and want), my 50s sons both look at me slightly shocked and say, “But, Mom, that’s YOURS!” Funny.
Oh, well. Their names on are on tags (that are concealed) on valuable, generations-long family items (some dating back to the mid-1800s). I had them flat TELL ME which items they wanted, wrote their name on a tag, taped it to the back – so I’ll guess they’ll just do it that way.
I sure do enjoy my sons and the conversaions we get to have!
Homemade kraut is one of the best things on the planet,,my gramma used to make it,,,,now I am looking for a rock………
Your’s is the best comment here!
My dad, depression era child, left me a garage to deal with. Been putting off for a decade.
Perhaps this spring.
Seriously how man bench grinders does a man really need. (all in the loft unused)
My depression Era dad died
this year. At 90 he saved everything. Estate sale helped after weeding through it all. Found some interesting stuff.
Thank you so very much for sharing Menagerie and fellow Treepers.
The stories are all so interesting and thought provoking.
Mine, however, is a bit off color.
Mom died 6 years ago. She was a very devote Catholic and no nonsense type lady. All seven of us – brothers and sisters were in church every single Sunday with both mom and dad. Rain, sleet, blizzards, heat, cold, tornados, nothing stopped us. We went to Catholic schools, went to confession on a regular basis, we all said the rosary together (no one wanted to kneel beside her while saying the rosary as if you happened to look at a sibling and smirk or smile for some reason you would get an elbow to the head)
Dad had died 20 years earlier.
I traveled back to NE to help my siblings clean her belongings out of her home. She too was a pack-rat who saved everything.
All of us were packed into her bedroom and cleaning out her treasures from the old cedar chest she and dad had acquired when they were newly weds. My brother uncovered something quite shocking from the very bottom of the chest. Covered up, for many, many years and never seen before by any of us was a sheer pale blue night gown. She had tagged everything prior to her death, jewelry with the names of her children she wanted to receive the piece along with a bit of history -maybe a watch that she received from her parents when she graduated from nursing school- just so we understood the significance.
Now when I say that nightgown was sheer, I mean sheer. And that, my friends was the nightgown she wore on her wedding night. No wonder there were 7 of us.
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😂😂🤗
Who got the nightgown?
My granddaughter needed something blue for her wedding. So she got it!
After my Mom died, my sisters were going through the house and boxed up what they thought belonged to each of us and shipped it to us. In my box was the normal Cub Scout, athletic stuff from a young boy. Also, there was a small white jewelry box and in it were 7 Green Scapulars of Mother Mary. A scapular in the Catholic Church is made of cloth and has the visage of Christ or Mary etc. They are usually blessed by a Priest and worn every day by the owner.
My Mom was very religious and I wondered why she had not given these out. I called my sister and asked why she had sent them to me, did they get some also, did they know why Mom bought them and had not dispensed them? I was floored by what my Sister said next. She didn’t know anything about them, my other sister who helped didn’t either. Neither remembered seeing the box or the scapulars nor did they remember putting the box in my package to be mailed to me.
As many of us feel, I had a special bond with my Mom. She was always supportive of my Athletics, my Student government path, my interest in History like her….she dragged us to every Civil War and Revolutionary War site she could and only I was very interested of my five other siblings. She would buy books about them and I would be the only one to read them.
When my sisters said they didn’t know about the box or how it got sent to me….it all became clear to me…..this was a special gift from her to me…..but I din’t know what I should do with them.
Awhile later a friend of our two boys came down with brain cancer….I instantly knew what I should do. I had them blessed by our parish Priest and sent one to their friend with a letter about my Mom, the power of the Scapular and how Mary’s intentions would flow to Christ and our son’s friend would receive His healing grace……months later the brain tumor disappeared and he now has two little girls and has been cancer free for 10+ years. The next I gave to the neice of one of my friends who was being treated at St. Jude. She recovered quickly and is well years later. I soon gave all but one of them away and kept the last one for myself but continued to find more people in need of this special power of the Scapular when followed up by daily prayer from myself. I found the Convent where they were made and asked for 50 of them to continue my Mission, they sent me 50 and I continue to give them to people in need whether sick or down on their luck or in need of a Lift Up from a spiritual source. I have seen many miracles and wonderful outcomes. I have also seen what I would call losses where it did not work for what I intended but I can only trust that God is in charge.
I myself had serious cancers twice in a row and was deemed Stage 4. God has put me on a road of alternative therapies and I have remained cancer free for 7+ years through his blessing. I have tried to help others with what I have learned and continue to dispense Scapulars to others, some of which are people I don’t even know. All of them respond with such gracious thankfulness that someone would give them such a Gift.
All because of my Mom, she knew if she sent them to me that I would figure out what to do! For awhile I did not think I was worthy to do this since I am a sinner but God figured out that He can use us for good while we may not be perfect in all we do. I am grateful for that.
When my mother was dying, my sister in law, who is this moment actively dying now herself, will probably go today or tomorrow, gave me her scapular to put on my mother, who was not Catholic. My brother in law, and their very devout daughter, objected to this very much, and felt my sister in law had done something disrespectful and wrong. She, who was always so devout, looked past the rules and rubrics and extended hope to me, hope and help.
I bought scapulars then for us, and my husband and I still wear them. But more importantly, she gave me a clear vision of mercy and love in proper tension with obedience and reverence.
Prayers for your sister in law.
I did the same for my dying aunt. She was a staunch liberal and atheist, but always supported me as as a Catholic. She allowed me to put a scapular on her (well, next to her since I did not want to disturb her in those final hours). I believe God was trying to reach her but it was difficult through all the morphine.
Thanks menagerie, it means a lot to read this from you. All things Are Possible!
Condolences on your sister in law’s imminent death.
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I love this, Iron Man – thank you for telling us!
You’re very kind. Please pray for my friend, Christine who is fighting a valiant battle against cancer and is trying every therapy we know that might help!
Beautiful story, Iron Man. I believe this was a God given mission for your life and having obeyed, you have received many blessings in your life. Thanks for sharing this. It has made my day.
Wow, you and others messages lift me up! Sometimes I am not sure I am doing enough, or doing much good. Th is opportunity to tell my Mom’s story is very special !
I believe “scapula” is the medical term for the collar bone. Thus, the name “scapular.” I always wore one, until high school, after I made my First Holy Communion in 2nd grade.
To be used by God one need only be willing.
That’s a great story. Thanks for sharing!
I make Sauerkraut every fall. I use a 5-gallon pail. It holds 6 big heads of Cabbage and shredded Carrots. I use a dinner plate and a gallon jug of water to hold it down. Now I want to find a special rock instead, ha.
I don’t get your mothers idea of storing the rock when not using it though?
I don’t consider myself a hoarder, but I do have too much stuff here and am too old to have a YardSale by myself.
I am a Father but no longer have a kid, so don’t know what will happen to my stuff when I kick the Bucket? ha
I hope someone doesn’t just toss out my Huge collection of science fiction books, some are very old, rare and valuable.
My husband’s family is German / Polish and his great aunt (who passed last year at 103) made kraut annually in a huge crock…she had a treasured rock that fit the crock, said it was “the families flavor”.
Did make me wonder if there might actually be something to that, if the rock, which was rinsed but never washed, retained some of the culture? 🤔
Anyway, the rock is still there with the crock…if it ever comes around to me, I’m making sauerkraut!
Adirondacker,
Do you have someone to mentor? Find someone. They need you.
I don’t know anyone who would be interested in Sci Fi Books
That’s a shame. Today’s generation just doesn’t seem to appreciate how a good book can be like a friend almost. I have tried to impart a love of books to my grandkids but no dice. Sad.
Hey, Adirondacker! Do you live in the Adirondacks? My husband and I vacation there every year,sometimes twice. We are going to Indian Lake this June. First time there. Been to Long Lake, Lower Saranac, and Stillwater. Such a beautiful place!
Go to Cranberry Lake in the Adirondacks.
It’s beautiful there and plenty of Loons to enjoy.
I live in the southern Adirondacks. I have family from Long Lake, what a beautiful place!
As a teenage we camped at a lake in the Adirondacks called Mosquito Lake, what a nightmare! I am not sure if that was the real name of the lake, it should be if it isn’t.
Perhaps you could sell them through eBay or Facebook marketplace if you know you’re not going to read them again. Perhaps you could sell them to abebooks.com or give them to local high schools in your area. 🥰
I have checked out Abebooks. I think they charge $25 a month and there is a lot of competition.
I do have quite a few that I have read more than once.
It might be worth trying to find a collector of books and either sell them, or gift them to that collector.
If the state steps in at your death, they will be thrown away or perhaps stolen by the people “ransacking” your home by the state (I’m sorry to say but I have seen 2 instances of this in CA).
Even your local library would be a better recipient than your state…
Thanks for the info.
I sure don’t want NYS to have my books!
I will think of something?
Hey Adirondacker,
There is an old adage, for which I can find no confirmed source, “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.”
However, it has also been stated through my self-development journey “When the teacher is ready, the student will appear.”
I agree with Hello Kitty, look for a student to mentor. There is someone searching for what you have; though, they may not yet know it.
Do kids today even read? Seems like all they do is play on their stupid phone’s.
I have grand nephew’s that used to read, now they don’t read at all?
My brother has collected stamps for most of his life.
Over the years, he developed a friendship with an older gentleman who owned a stamp store.
One day, after making a modest purchase, my brother discovered that the man had put several rare stamps in with my brother’s purchase.
My brother went back to the store and informed the man about the mistake.
The man told him that it was no mistake.
He said that he was going to be retiring soon and that he had no one to take over his business, so he wanted to make sure that his most cherished pieces in his collection would go to someone who would appreciate them as much as he did.
My mother left me with the gift of loving to read. All of the books she had came home with me. My son will never want them either.
I went to a funeral recently of a woman who had a vast book collection. Her two sons brought many of the books to the funeral home and asked visitors to take one or more books with which to remember their mom. I took home 3.
That’s a great idea.
I’m a writer. Send them to me, lol.
Leave notes around the books! ! ! !
Hi, Adirondacker — I believe Lloyd “L.W.” Currey buys science fiction in New York:
P.O. Box 187 – 203 Water Street – Elizabethtown – NY 12932
Phone 518-873-6477 – Fax
Email: [email protected]
(or send me a partial list — V. Suprynowicz)
Thanks, I will look into it
So we have love of books, especially science fiction in common. My favorite authors have always been a tie between Charles Dickens and many Ray Bradbury, but I love many others too. Maybe you can arrange for your books to go to someone else who loves books after you’re gone? Have you any nephews, nieces or grandkids who might want them? I m sorry you lost your child, I think that’s the worst pain imaginable. God bless you.
My sister-in-law is a hoarder. Her mom was too.
We’ve been going to Brazil for the last three years (every year we promise would be the last, but we always leave something unfinished that makes us come back!), anyway … we take time there to declutter her apartment. I go through item by item with her… for some she has long stories about, and after she tells it, she just says, toss it! I hesitate and say, maybe we just keep it in the “undecided” box for now…
Some things I throw away when she’s not looking, things like a deodorant that expired in 1999!!!
Last year she was complaining that she was missing things that “you guys threw away” … but, soon she learned that she’d have to live without them because we had to move her to a nursing home, where she now lives in one bedroom.
Life is funny.. there are things that we think we can’t live without, until we don’t have them anymore. Little by little we learn what is really important and indispensable to us.
I save things like matchbooks, old travel brochures, magazines and other chatckies like napkins and even paper drink coasters that, on the surface, mean nothing to anyone else. But, to me, they are memories of significant occasions.
My memory is shot. I wouldn’t recall many of these events unless something specifically jogs my memory. So that is why I keep “insignificant” stuff stashed away.
When I go through these things, I relive and cherish all the memories they prompt.
I suggest… find a paper crafter who will put these bits of ephemera, with (blank spaces for) your notations, into (a few?) simple albums for you – it could be a fun project to work on together incrementally; you don’t have to be local to one another to accomplish it.. snail mail & internet allows working together at a distance.
Also go look on eBay for ‘vintage ephemera/travel ephemera’ and ‘vintage scrapbooks’;… it will help you justify making an effort at preserving it – your things are ‘definitely valuable’.
I think there’s even an old saying “One person’s trash is another person’s treasure”. I know that’s True; a memory book is less likely to be thrown in the garbage than a box of ”meaningless paper’ when you’re not the owner anymore… and it will help a younger person know you better down the road.
There are some seriously creative & fun books made like this. Search “mini albums” to get the idea (of modern, small-version scrapbooks), and maybe a lead on a crafter you’d like to work with; they will enjoy working with your cherished memories… because they get why it matters. Or, if there’s a paper crafting or scrapbook store in your town, you could find someone local to collaborate with; maybe to learn from & enjoy doing this yourself (its creative relaxation; you only need glue, a ruler, pencil & pen, paper, and scissors; stores usually offer classes, the students are your prospects for an assembler; there are social media groups to look into for crafters &/or free knowledge also; a real rabbit hole for sure).
examples & some choices you could make for yours; paper doesn’t have to be expensive or fancy like this to be perfect for your purposes…
found is often very good/excellent, and free paper is everywhere – can even be made from an old book)
{ https://einatkessler.com/10-clever-reasons-youll-want-to-make-mini-albums-with-your-photos/ }
Just a thought.
Thank you Amaragrace.. for your great ideas! It is a shame to waste all these memories because that is what my collections are all about. I’d rather keep a memento of important occasions that tell my story, than a random piece of jewelry that holds no special significance in my life.
People are funny about what they find meaningful. Money isn’t everything.
My mom currently stays with me , she has dementia.
My sister’s and I were taking turns with having her over the last year and a half.
My one sister bailed in early December.
I’ve been pretty angy and stressed since .
I’m the POA ,what a privilege,not !!!
Mom has bathroom and dressing issues, being a man , I. Just not cut out for this .
I’ve been holding the line trying to keep her out of a nursing home.
I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
In light of other things said ,mom was very religious, blessed scalpers and such , she’d go on the spirit daily website all the time .
She used to go to church several times a week, and was always praying for someone, and would swear God talked to her twice in church .
Can’t remember the stories In detail, but remember her asking God a question, and he replied,it’s the human condition.
My sister who bailed,ransacked her old apartment when I gave her and her daughter the keys to search for one necklace my mom wanted her grand daughter to have .
They took every piece of jewelry in the place ,and tossed her bedroom like a burgerler.
I don’t think it had much value granted,man was I angry .
My mom room was always neat .
My other sister and I took pictures.
I sent them to my son , and said look what they did !
He’s like ,no way , you sure her place wasn’t robbed ,found out it was them .
My life kinda sucks right now .
Over the last year especially.
I’ve gone through many schedule changes at work , I’m currently working second shift ,get off at 4am.
Haven’t worked night hours in 30 years at UPS.
Idk , I’ve felt at times I was meant to be POA .
But man , I don’t know how long I can hold the line keeping her out of a home .
Mom was born in Germany in 1946 .
The story we were told was ,gram was taken from Poland after the Germans took over , and used in a work camp to sew uniforms .
Funny thing though , my grandma cried when she came to America, she loved and missed Germany.
Gram never talked much about that stuff , she took secrets to her grave .
The only thing we have of that polish family,was a picture of Pollocks in a farm field .
And one young boy in the picture was the spitting image of my son at the same age .
Sorry to blather on ,like I said ,been a bad few years.
I can understand how frayed you are John.
Quite sad to watch life and death situations like this and they happen a lot.
I come from a large family of 7. My Mom died in a nursing home at 86 yrs, in 1996.
It was not a pleasant experience but the only 2 sisters who were in a position to take care of
her couldn’t manage after a long time because she not able to walk anymore.
When she went into the 2nd home, (her final destination), she refused to eat and never left her bed in a constant semi-conscious state. She lasted about 6 weeks.
I have lost 3 siblings. 2 of whom had devastating strokes, upon receiving the Covid shots and boosters, and a brother who refused treatment for cancer. He dropped dead while working on a farm.
The care my 2 sisters received was abominable and my brother chose to die his way, which was very wise on his part.
We never know what is going to happen to any one of us, until it does.
Keep praying for guidance and strength; you will get your answer.
Thanks !
Last year when I found out about my mom’s advanced breast cancer, at first I was furious with her because she had been having symptoms for at least a decade and had done nothing about it. By the time we got the news all we could do were comfort measures. The doctors, of course, wanted to do surgery, chemo, and everything else they could think of because she had excellent health insurance, but thank God she saw the futility in that. For a short time she agreed to some chemo pills to try and slow the cancer, but they made her so sick we convinced her to stop taking them, and just be comfortable with the time she had left. A couple of weeks later she went on hospice and one week later she was dead, but at least she died at home in her own room, with family to surround her.
My sympathy on your situation. I live in a state where health care is ranked 48th. In the nation. A stay in a nursing home is a farce and death sentence. Please do your homework and be so careful. I faced your situation with my mother except she was mentally sound. It’s a shame what our elderly face. I am retired medical and have seen so much. Blessings to you..
I have told you all here that my 102(almost 103) year grandmother has lived with me since Dec of 2019. Thank goodness we thought she was better off with us instead of alone BEFORE covid showed up. I took in my grandparents 10 years ago for a year when my grandfather was dying also. I still had 5 kids at home and a husband that was more comfortable at the bar than at home.
I remember crying in the shower back the then, praying to God “please? something’s got to give!” My grandfather was paralyzed by a fall. He was 180 and 6′ soaking wet. I am 5’4″ 120lbs. I got him out of his bed and in his chair every morning and to church on Sundays. It was an incredible hardship, but I wouldn’t change a thing. God answered in the most humane way.
My grandmother doesn’t take any pills and is healthy. She goes up and down the stairs quicker than I do sometimes. It is her mind that is lost. We still go to church every Sunday and did so every week, maskless. We haven’t had any shots.
Their house was a mess when we sold it last year. It was 12 hours drive for me so it took the better part of a year to clean it out. Of course, my siblings didn’t do a thing as is mostly in any family. They did not have anything of worth left in the house because they gave everyone everything long before. It made it easier. I don’t hold grudges.
Last thing. I lost a child to drowning in 1995, so I treasure every minute with my kids and grandkids. Back then, I remember clearly praying, “Thy will be Done”. My choice was not to be because I had to turn off the machines myself. I felt at peace with my prayers and sang, You are my sunshine until his last breath.
I read maybe a readers digest ? article when I was still a teenager that stuck with me. It was 3 adult children at their mother’s funeral. After the service, they each got a letter. All of them started with; ” you were always my favorite”. Each letter went on to tell of how proud she was, or what she fretted about, how much she loved them and would miss them.
I expanded on that wonderful story by writing to each of my children every year on New years Day. I hand write them. They are usually only one page. I seal them(never re-open) and put them in my steamer trunk that everyone knows has my most “important” memories in. I have been writing these letters since 1990 when my first was born. I have to start the grands one of these days.
Long-winded way to remind people to tell people you love them even after you are gone. I trust in the Lord always. I don’t feel very Christian a lot of the time, but I never have wavered in trusting Him to do what is best for me.
Bless you for taking care of your loved ones…💕
PS. Too late to edit. Another saying that I have heard is that, we all are 2 generations from being forgotten. Sad, but our memories are what makes us human and that as humans, we have to do the best we can to make the ripples that will travel on; even if our names are forgotten.
Wise words. Thanks
Consider becoming a volunteer for FindAGrave-dot-com. Volunteers can post photos of headstones, photos of the deceased, obits, etc. The site also lets volunteers group their ancestors’ gravesites into a type of genealogy grouping. I’ve posted ancestors’ wedding photos and other things. It makes me feel good. Even if someone is cremated, they can be memorialzied.
Crying yeah ,men don’t do that !
Hah !
Been dealing with my mom’s dementia for at least 4 years .
A couple of years ago , I got a call from my one sister, she was taking Mom to the hospital, and wanted to have her admitted to the psych ward to stabilize her craziness.
I was at work ,and had to make decisions being the POA.
I went into the office to tell my bosses I had to leave , I couldn’t talk .
I just balled my eyes out for like 15 minutes.
All the stress and pressure built up over the last few years with the situation came to a head.
So embarrassing ,lol, I’m human.
GM,what doesn’t kill us,makes us stronger!
And we all need a good cry now and then !
Heaven knows our mothers have cried enough for us, so it’s OK if we return the favor.
Gunners Mom- I’m writing this late and don’t know if you will see it but here goes. That’s a story by erma bombeck I believe. I read it as a younger and remember it well. I’ll try to find the book it was in.
Condolences on the loss of your child. By any chance was that Gunnar?
Thank God all of my children are still living, except for the one I miscarried. I have lost 2 grandchildren though. One of them was murdered a week before his 18th birthday. The other one died 10 minutes after his mother went into premature labor. A day doesn’t go by that I don’t think about each one of them.
I think I will borrow your idea about writing letters to my children.
Blessings.
Not sure if you are still on Gunnar’s mom but here is the story; I hope this is okay to copy/paste otherwise remove, I don’t want the site to get in trouble
I’ve Always Loved You Best Because … by Erma BombeckAPRIL 6, 2010 / STANDUPMAMA
I’ve Always Loved You Best Because …
It is normal for children to want assurance that they are loved. Having all the warmth of the Berlin Wall, I have always admired women who can reach out to pat their children and not have them flinch.
Feeling more comfortable on paper, I wrote the following for each of my children.
To the First-born: I’ve always loved you best because you were our first miracle. You were the genesis of a marriage, the fulfillment of young love, the promise of our infinity.
You sustained us through the hamburger years. The first apartment furnished in Early Poverty … our first mode of transportation (1955 feet) … the 7-inch television set we paid on for 36 months.
You wore new, had unused grandparents and more clothes than a Barbie doll. You were the “original model” for unsure parents trying to work the bugs out. You got the strained lamb and three-hour naps.
You were the beginning.
To the Middle Child: I’ve always loved you the best because you drew a dumb spot in the family and it made you stronger.
You cried less, had more patience, wore faded, and never in your life did anything “first,” but it only made you more special. You are the one we relaxed with and realized a dog could kiss you and you wouldn’t get sick. You could cross a street by yourself long before you were old enough to get married, and the world wouldn’t come to an end if you went to bed with dirty feet.
You were the continuance.
To the Baby: I’ve always loved you the best because endings generally are sad and you are such a joy. You readily accepted the mild-stained bibs. The lower bunk. The cracked baseball bat. The baby book, barren but for a recipe for graham cracker pie crust that someone jammed between the pages.
You are the one we held onto so tightly. For you see, you are the link with the past that gives a reason for tomorrow. You darken our hair, quicken our steps, square our shoulders, restore our vision, and give us humor that security and maturity can’t give us.
When your hairline takes on the shape of Lake Erie and your children tower over you, you will still be “the Baby.”
You were the culmination.
~ Erma Bombeck
You get what you pay for for the most part with nursing homes.
We don’t have wealth like that .
I’ve seen the bad.
And I agree on the homework!
Thanks !
A neighbor of mine, in his 60s, recently went through almost exactly all of the detailed nonsense that you describe—nonsene, but exhausting and destructive and deliberate. His sister filed criminal charges against him after their 94 year old mother day, who he had been providing ALL care for years (the sister refused to help, and the other son would only come to visit her if my neighbr paid his expenses to come)….she filed criminal charges claiming that my neighbor murdered their mother by neglect and malnutrition.
It took well over six months, and the end result was this: ONE DAY before he was due in Superior Court to answer the murder charges, he got a phone call telling him that court investigators had determined these were all totally baseless charges and the case was dismissed. Court officlals and police visited his sister in her home and explained to her the danger she was in – not from her but from the courts – for knowingly filing malicious and false charges. Let’s just say she had a little calibrating to do. I don’t know what penalties she is facing.
She put through him through absolute hell for a long, long time. He endured it. Kept his sanity.
Our word to him, as neighbors, was simply to say, “When this is over (and it WILL be over), we just want you still on your feet and speaking in complete sentences.” I hope you have some people walking with you in a way that helps.
…..after their 94 year old mother died………
Thanks !
Haven’t even hit on all the details how I’ve been wronged ,that would take to long .
There will be some ties cut when mom passes .
Isn’t it wonderful that you are part of the Treehouse community? We are here for you to vent! It’s OK. They say dementia destroys two people: the victim and the caretaker.
Yes , I do have some supporting friends though .
And sometimes you just don’t want to talk about this stuff .
Just keep taking it day by day.
First I have to explain where I’m coming from.
My first memory is the memory of a dream. I was lying on a cot, in a dark room, looking at the sunbeam coming from a single small window in the dark. It was so solid, I got up, walked over, threw my leg over it like a horse, and rode it out the window, through the backyard and over the hills in the distance.
That was the FIRST time I ran away. Funny how my first memory is a dream. The 2nd time I ran away when I was 7, I hopped on a city bus and rode it all over San Francisco until the bus driver noticed me and asked where I was going. The 3rd time I ran away, I was 11, we were living in Panama and I ran away with an older girl. I gathered all my favorite things, packed them in pillowcase and snuck out the window. My friend was nowhere to be seen so I started walking. A couple of miles later, the MPs stopped me, after all I was a little girl in the middle of the night with a bag over my shoulder. The 4th and last time I ran, I was 14. I never went back, living on the streets until I could get a job. So at 17 my real life began. I was finally free. I stayed at the YWCA until i had enough to move into my own apartment, took on 2 more jobs, started college on scholarships and grants and finished without debt. You could do that back in the 70s.
2nd of 4 children, my biological mother was a heroin addict who sexually exploited, neglected and ultimately abandoned her 4 babies one day never to be seen again. We were 6, 5, 4 & 2yrs. I remember her boyfriends, one in particular who told me to “It’s a pickle, come suck it” when I asked “WHAT is that” I remember her locking us in the closet and then nailing the door shut in the heat of a Phoenix summer. I remember escaping with my sister and finding her at a neighbors house who was utterly horrified to see 2 babies naked like that. That woman covered us in blankets and fed us. I’ll never forget the kindness of that lady.
I remember how my mother took us horseback riding one day at a Phoenix ranch. She put me on the horse and my little sister behind me, then rode off with her boyfriend. We were probably 3 and 4 or 5. We sat on the horse for awhile watching as they got smaller and smaller and then, bored just sitting there, we tried to make the horse follow. We kicked our little heels and yelled GO Horsie! until it broke into a trot so suddenly my sister fell off it’s back and I can still remember the sound of her head as it hit the rocky trail. The horse took off galloping in panic at my screams and I hung on to the saddle horn with all my might, yelling HELP at the top of my lungs, when suddenly out of nowhere some nice man grabbed the reigns and rescued me. I told him about my sister, and they must have found her because she’s still here. I wish I knew the names of these people, but I was too little to think about asking.
Anyway, the neighbors finally called welfare, and when they couldnt find her, we were separated. I was placed in an orphanage with my brother, but since boys and girls were segregated I never saw him after that. I remember my 6th birthday when the Houseparents served a cake and everyone sang Happy Birthday to me. That’s the first Birthday I remember.
My father remarried while still in Vietnam and brought home a literal “Evil Stepmother” She was even worse than my biological mother, she beat the 4 of us unmercifully for nearly 5yrs while my father was in Vietnam. By that time we were all wild, incorrigable and unmanegable. In and out of foster homes, group homes, juvenile detention and in my older brother’s case institutionalization. So you can see why I kept running away.
Anyway that’s my story. My life started out rough, but has smoothed out since. I speak from the heart and it often gets me in trouble. I am who I am and I’m finally ok with that.
That’s where I started. That’s where I’m coming from. I read an article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5043215/Brain-scans-toddlers-reveal-impact-childhood-neglect.html “These two scans are of the brains of two toddlers of the same age – yet one is significantly bigger.
The image on the left is of a three-year-old brought up in a nurturing environment, while the one on the right is of child who has suffered extreme emotional trauma and neglect.
The pictures provide a hard-hitting visual insight into how an abusive or neglectful childhood can impact the brain structures of youngsters.”
What If my brain is also 30% smaller?
Anyway, my years as a street kid taught me how to read people, how to run away and hide, how to be invisible. I spent my days in the sanctuary of libraries in El Paso. It was cool and there was a water fountain, and I could read anything I wanted. You didnt need ID to get a library card and that card was my prized posession. I read Tom Sawyer, Nancy Drew, Romances by the score, travel books, travel magazines, Books about far away places in long ago times. Some people use drugs to escape, I used the library.
There’s an old song called “Wildwood Weed” that goes “Take a trip and never leave the farm” That’s what books were to me, a drug. Whenever I ended up getting caught and returned to captivity, I’d read. Nobody ever denied me books, not in juvenile detention, not in group homes, or the state school. I was SOO lucky. Just imagine a world without books.
From these experiences I learned some important things.
1 Words are easy. Anyone can say words, they’re meaningless without action. I don’t listen to what people SAY, I watch what they DO.
2 When someone tells you with their actions who they are, believe them the first time.
3 Reading will set you free.
4 The ONLY thing you have complete control over in your life is how you treat other people.
5 The only person you can count on is yourself.
6 Trying to always do the “right thing” will relieve you of regret.
7 Never give up.
We eventually found my biological mother through 23&me, turns out she wasn’t dead after all. She moved to another town, changed her name and birthdate, remarried, had another child and never let out a peep. She’s denying it, “I’m not your mother I’m your aunt” I bet she thought we were to little to remember anything.
1 more thing.
Prophecies were spoken to me by a man who said he was Jesus. 4yrs later I met two men from Iran. They had a poster of what looked like a wizard. An bearded man in black robes sitting cross leg on the floor. He wore a black turban. I asked who it was and they explained it was a very holy man who was exiled in France but would soon return and lead his country. It was a poster of the Ayatollah Khomeini. That night I dreamed of being in NYC and looking in the sky to see buildings exploding and crumbling. 6mo later their words were fulfulled with the taking of the American embassy in Tehran and the ultimate overthrow of the US backed government. Then on 911, my husband called me out of the shower to see my nightmare come true on TV when the North tower was hit by the first plane. I never spoke of these dreams except to my husband. They were just dreams brought on by my conversation about the man in the poster, right?
Patty
You’ve made a life for yourself despite it all.
How can anyone help?
Pray for me to find Jesus. That’s all I need.
He has already found you.
He is your light in the darkness
Patty, I am praying for you to find Jesus, because you asked me to.
However, this is what I know. When does the lost lamb ever find the Shepherd? Your story tells me that Jesus the Good Shepherd has already found you, and has been with you for some time. So, I am also praying that He helps you become aware of His Presence with you. That you will discern His voice, and sense His embrace, and be comforted. He loves you; always has, always will.
P.S.: You are absolutely correct about Books!!
There’s a book I will recommend. Many lives many Masters.
Oh Patty, I will most certainly pray for you to find Jesus. By the Power of The Holy Spirit, I command the demons that are surrounding you and keeping you from seeing – and hearing – Jesus to be thrown into the abyss- NOW! In Jesus’ name.
Our God is awesome and so, so good! He is with you now, Patty. Trust in Him. Jesus, we know you are with Patty even now and we thank you for the protection you have given her all these years. We thank you for the healing she has already seen and the healing she will see soon – the healing you have already done, Lord, that she does not see yet – but it IS there on the other side of the mountain.
If you haven’t already done so, read the Bible every day. So much wisdom and peace in the Word of God. If you don’t know where to start, read Psalm 37 – Trust in the Lord, Commit to the Lord, Rest in the Lord and Wait Patiently on the Lord. I am just a beginner at studying the Bible, but I keep at it and Psalm 37 is one I read every day.
I won’t say it’s easy and will magically solve all your problems, but once you get on the path and realize you are going the right way, it brings a sense of peace even amidst the turmoil of life.
Remember we are spirits living in a human body. When that human body dies, our spirit lives forever. The only choice is will you live eternity in Heaven or in Hell? Your sins have already been forgiven by the blood of Jesus Christ. All you have to do is accept Him as your God and Saviour and walk in the way He tells you.
Good advice CM. One of my favorite expressions is: This ain’t home, it’s just a stop in the road – I’ve got a mansion just over the hilltop
Patty, I’ve been a Born Again believer since I was eight years old. We had a strong and close Christian family, but unfortunately my mother passed away 3months after I was saved.
There were 10 children in our family, 8 older and 1 younger than me . Our family was still loving but we were fractured. It feels to me in looking back, that we all went through our mourning separately, and because of that, our close connections suffered.
I feel my childhood growth in maturity was basically arrested at that time. My life was without real dreams of future life – each day was more like time to pass, and then it was the next day.
My mother was very involved in teaching and mentoring at church and at home, and though we continued to go to church as much, I feel I lost my place in where I was with God. Not that I didn’t believe in Him but in that He seemed to be completely unavailable to me or that He heard me in my pain and loss.
Over the years I went back and forth in reaching out to Him, trying to find the way to feeling a closeness to or with Him – at times desperate for a connection. I never found a way to get there, or what I needed or wanted, and I wandered for a long long time.
I wanted to share this with you – and please use your own discernment in whether this touches or speaks to you in any way – but I began to listen to a woman that shares prophetic words given to her by the Lord.
I don’t know if you read the regular Daily Open thread here @ CTH (not political one), but poster Duchess puts a link to this woman there every day. Her name is Julie Green and she’s on Mon – Fri. She is deep in God’s Word in confirming all that she says prophetically is of scriptural context. She was a preacher for many years until God called her for this. She does teaching and preaching in addition to the prophetic words she shares.
Below is her home page website to those prophetic and teaching messages.
https://rumble.com/c/JulieGreenMinistries
Listening to her has brought me closer to God and also brought to light a whole new perspective on what a relationship with Him can be! I’m finding it’s the faith and trust in Him – the letting go of self to trust fully in Him, that I could never do or find before. Her message and being in His Word – and prayer, has brought me there. God’s prophecies she shares have brought me great hope, where the world has about crushed the joy out of life.
Listen if you’re interested. I only know her messages and getting in God’s Word – and prayer, have helped me so much.
I’m praying you find your way to what you need and to His unfailing Love. Amen
What a powerful story. Thank you for sharing.
I want to say that is a beautiful story, because it is. But there is so much sadness in it that I don’t want it to be misunderstood.
Yours is a beautiful story of hope and optimism and the strength of the human spirit.
Your dream came true, you were able to ride the sunbeam, from a single small window in the dark, over the hills and into the distance.
Thank you for sharing it!
You were born with a clairvoyance, as indicated by your first dream.
Nourish it.
Patty… Look at Dr. Joe Dispenza… expand your Supernatural talent to do more good. TY for sharing your story.
Wow !
I did a stint in foster homes .
My dad was a drunk .
Definitely feel blessed I turned away from drugs and alcohol,and bad people .
The good Lord was watching over you .
There is something in the human psyche that causes us to accumulate “stuff.” Put a guy who has hit the skids out on the street with nothing, and within a year he will be pushing around a shopping cart filled with “stuff” he has found. It is in our genes, in our nature, and it can only be changed through willful resistance or by force external. The entire WEF globalist mantra of “you will own nothing and be happy” always makes me laugh. Yeah. Good luck with that.
Oh, and to Menagerie – Most people are hoarders to an extent. Drive around the wealthy area some Saturday looking for open garage doors. Most are closed all the time, but sometimes you will catch one open, stuffed floor to ceiling, wall to door, with “stuff” and no room for more let alone a car. Always makes me feel good to see one.
all of this would explain the explosion of U Stor It warehouses, I believe our little burg has at least 15, and maybe more, and some are two and three story
Absolutely! We “downsize” when we move, but really not. We just move most of our “stuff” into a storage unit, or two , or three. When I used to watch the show “Pickers” they would always be talking to a guy with a barn packed with stuff, and ask him about some small item, a sign or bottle or whatever. Often his answer would be “I’m not ready to let that go yet.” I never understood it. But recently I was going through my fishing “stuff” and came across an old Hardy fly reel that was once my favorite (that’s a pun for those of you who know). I thought “I am NEVER going to use this again. It’s too heavy and I am all into ultralight and Tenkara now. I should sell this on ebay.” Turning the spool and hearing the distinctive Hardy “click,” my next thought was “I’m not ready to let this go yet.” Uh … uh oh.
I highly recommend a clip by the comedian, George Carlin he did years ago on STUFF. It can be found on you tube. His language can get salty,so he is not for everyone. The first time I heard his ‘bit’ on STUFF, I laughed until I hurt. He was spot on.
You tempted me to watch again. I got tears streaming 😂
Did you ever hear his spiel on the wacko environmental nuts and “saving the earth”?
Lol, totally feel ya .
I’m a fishing fool.
Bought an old spectrum bass boat a few years back.
The amount of fishing stuff I have is a little crazy.
I definitely hoard a little .
I started selling stuff out of necessity in my 20’s at a flea market,after getting laid off from a job.
The people there taught me how to make money flipping stuff .
I still roam the market when I can and buy vintage stuff and collectables.
And then maybe one month a year , I’ll rent a spot and sell stuff .
The flea market is the land of hustlers .
After living overseas and coming back, I learned that the one irreplaceable item you have are your family photographs and films.
All other possessions are easy to replace. Right now, if you haven’t already, go through your photos and such, and write down who those people are on the back!
Your young nieces, nephews, and grandchildren will not be able to figure out who their great aunts and uncles might possibly be!
If there are stories attached to the photos, write them down too. You will be creating intergenerational relationships that do have value.
Great advice!
If I am guilty of one aspect
of hoarding, it is my hoarding
of photos.
I got a lot of photos from
my father before he passed
away. And then some
when my mother passed away.
Nice thing is that they are
carefully stored in plastic containers
and are tucked away in a closet.
Years ago, I was laid up for a
couple of months due to an
injury. I used that time scanning and
categorizing the photos.Then I
downloaded and sent copies
to my siblings. My belief is that
just one person should not have
them in case of some natural
disaster,etc.
Fortunately most were date
stamped on the photos. The
older ones I have no idea when
they were taken, or even who
the people are. 💁
Some are actually glass negatives.
But what is really interesting is
when you look at a picture of
a distant relative and see the
resemblance in the younger
generations still alive today.
Photos are my favorite family
heirlooms. They capture a time
and place. Expressions on faces,
fashion,vehicles, jewelry, trends,
accomplishments, important times
like marriage and births, graduation,
holidays and so much more!
Knicknacks can remind people
of a certain visit or trip…but a
photograph shows so much more!
That is why I believe when after
events like fires, tornadoes and
hurricanes people usually talk
about the family photos they lost.
Mr. Z and I went to a Family History library – open to the public – and used their automated photo scanners.
These scanners allow you to put a stack of 30-50 photos in the feeder, and then it takes about 1 second per photo to scan through.
The photos pop up on your computer screen where they can be edited for true color.
We scanner 3000+ photos.
Highly recommended.
Thanks!
I will have to see if there
is one in my area.
Or maybe even bring the idea
up to my library 👏👏
Some Sam’s Club or other big box retailers have a similar service in their photo departments.
A friend (married, with 3 children) lost all her photos in a house fire. Insurance covered her stuff, but nothing could replace photos. She put out a call to all her friends, and her children’s friends, to make her copies of any photos they had with her family in it. I had many. Others did too. It was a good feeling for those of us who helped her recreate her memories.
Oh my god. I have a story, too. When my mom died it was almost as bad. She was not a hoarder, though. She bought all kinds of shiny objects from the home shopping network and other worthless fake gems and such. I found tons of Eisenhower silver dollars hidden all over the place, especially in the pockets of coats and clothing. And my older sister and her husband would hide in mom’s back room tearing it apart and plunder everything in sight when the rest of us were gone. I mean, they took almost everything that wasn’t nailed down (and I learned later they sold almost all of it on craigslist). They took several truck loads in his F350 long bed. My wife and I only wanted a few of the scraps of memorabilia left that were not plundered by said culprits, mostly some old Al Jolson and Hawaiian records post WW2. Since I lived out of state I didn’t have room to take the few boxes home on that trip, so I asked my little sister to keep in their garage. I came back a year later to find those few boxes torn apart and plundered and haphazardly duct taped back together, thinking I wouldn’t know the difference when they were brown taped and labeled, lol. Anything that had any value on the web was taken, along with the 78 speed Jolson record collection that was a favorite of my dad. It almost makes my blood boil just writing about this. I asked my little sister what happened and she said our older sister and brother in law visited and when she and her husband were at work they must have got into my boxes. I asked them if they wanted any of those items and they said no when we cleaned out mom’s house! I didn’t really want much, just a few items that had some special meaning. I had built a really nice house and we already had nice Stickley and antique furnishings and art so we didn’t care about any of mom’s furniture etc., and mom’s decor was not our style so that didn’t bother me. But tearing apart those 3 boxes was infuriating.
By now my dear reader is probably thinking, your sister sounds like a greedy selfish bitch and her husband a jerk. Well, those are kind words for how I think of them. A little history: Yes, older sis was born that way and we had constant fist fights growing up. The sugar and spice fairy completely missed this nasty piece of work. I didn’t care if I got a whopping for violating daddy’s little spoiled brat. When daddy’s spoiled brat started showing a pregnant belly (when she was still in high school, which was scandalous at this time) he packed up a suitcase and threw it along with my sister out on the front porch. I was grinning from ear to ear, of course! I no longer had to share a room with my little sister and the army cot I had to sleep on. I know I digressed but I had to give some background. I’m sure many of you have similar stories to share. Believe me, this was the very, very truncated version of the story. I could probably write an entire book on what it was like growing up with my older sister.
Seems like almost every family has a story of the cheap theives who run to the deseased home .
That’s such a pretty story. Not the hoarding… my mom is a bit the same. A creek rock is really nothing but she was holding on to a memory of something more precious: good times, friendship, traditions. To have it come full circle must be a bit of a gift because it gives meaning and understanding to something that made no sense.
I have one of my own. Some years ago, I went to see my dying aunt (my mom’s sister). In one of her few coherent moments she told me she wanted my brother to have the coins. It did not make a whole lot of sense, but she was dying and that was on her mind. I searched around and ended up bringing home a huge bag of quarters, dimes, etc. She died a couple of days later.
Just a few years after that her husband, my uncle, died. I went back again to help go through things for my mom. Well, lo and behold, I found a little pretty box filled with old coins. I believe the coins were saved by our grandfather. THIS is what my aunt wanted my brother to have.
In today’s world, my mother would be called a seamstress. She was far more than that, however. She was an artist. Earliest memories are of her working through nights with her best friend, Tillie, sewing dozens of costumes for the students of Florence Cowanova, Anna Pavlova’s understudy. Ms. Cowanova put on an annual show in Philadelphia, featuring her ballet students. (At six, I barely counted as one of them:)
One year, a few days before an annual performance, and knowing she was running out of time, my mother asked me to help her. She entrusted me to hand sew beads on the bodice of Ms. Cowanova’s gown. I remember being thrilled and honored. I remember painstakingly picking up each shiny bead with a very fine needle and strategically placing it on the thick lace adorning the bodice.
In today’s world, many would call that child labor:) For me, it began a lifetime love of embroidery. I now design needlepoint (not for sale, just for the sheer joy of creating it…) And I still have some of the beads from my mother’s collection. They are incorporated into the designs for my granddaughters, so in this small way, her legacy — and hopefully mine — is passed on.
My wife used to do a lot of sewing. My domestic goddess made me a gortex ski jumpsuit, a beautiful Pendleton jacket, polar fleece pullovers, and many other items. Sewing is becoming a lost art with young women today.
so lost and so lovely a thing.
I agree. No one wants to make things because you can get a cheap imitation made in China or some other place with slave labor. The Pendleton jacket my wife made me is 30 years old and still looks just as good as the day she made it. A gal in Montana tailor made a shearling jacket for me a few years earlier than that and I still fit into it and it looks great, although a bit tighter, lol. I would rather have fewer high quality things than a house full of foreign made junk.
My calling, im the 5th generation, ive have 2 generation following me
” i fix things, because i know things”
That’s great.
My maternal Grandmother taught me to sew as soon as my legs had grown long enough to reach the wide pedal on her old non-electric Singer sewing machine. Starting with doll clothes at age 5, sewing my own Sr. Prom dress in 1958 & lots of my kid’s clothes while a stay-at-home Mom in their early years. I passed the love of sewing on to my own daughter who designed & made her own wedding gown.
Later on it all came in handy when I owned a vintage clothing store & sold vintage & other clothing on eBay for 25 years, mostly doing lots of restoration & mending. Now my hands no longer work well enough & it takes me 10 minutes to even thread a needle. I miss it everyday! I once watch a documentary of Downton Abbey & the ladies who made all those gorgeous period pieces…Wow! How fun!
When I met my future wife most of her clothes were hand made. Nice raw silk skirts and jackets for her job. And she was an amazing cook. I was impressed. She was a keeper.
My mom took apart my (18yo) Levi jacket to make a pattern to make a reduced size for my 1yo nephew. She made the cutest mini Levi jacket that no one would know it wasn’t an actual one. Mine was put back together and no one was the wiser.
Like Fionnagh above, my mom was a seamstress and artist and made many wedding dresses (including her own). Made my prom dress, dads dress shirts. I learned from her but haven’t sewn in years. I do have her sewing machine and can still read a pattern if I had to.
I took “Sewing” in high school from an old nun who was a gem. I sewed my senior prom dress, all my bridesmaids’ dresses ($7 each total, for materials, in the early 1970s), and all my maternity clothes. The simple skill of sewing has brought me (and my family members) lots of joy. My grandsons today all ask me to hem their pants or adjust their suit coat sleeve lengths.
My father was a lawyer. When he passed away, it was up to me to go through his things. At the back of his closet, I found a zippered portfolio. It was brand new, and had never been used. I opened it, and inside there was a card from my father’s brother, wishing him all the best in his new career. It was a strange experience for me, as I was at the end of his life, reading something from the start of it. My father kept that unused portfolio for 50+ years.
I do understand younger people here, advising that the elderly should stop ‘hoarding’ and get rid of unnecessary things so that others won’t have all that work to do when they pass away. I am probably what you call ‘elderly’. Most of the things I have, I have carried with me through my lifetime….they are the fabric of my life, what connects me to times and people past. And when you are older, perhaps that’s all you have left to remind you of your experiences, younger days, departed friends and family, etc. While I am not saving bags of leaves or cardboard, like in SD’s story, I’m sure there are many things that, if you went through my things, you’d wonder why I kept them. I keep them because they have meaning to me. To those who will have to clean out my house, well, just get a dumpster, and throw everything away, if you want to…..although I suspect, just like in the above story, you will rummage through every item in the hopes that you find some valuable treasure.
My mother, as related in the story, did not save things full of meaning. There were a few things there, of course. Most of what she held onto was literal garbage, and it created a fire hazard and unbelievable filth. She lived in conditions unfit for rats and vermin.
Wow. That’s awful. I hope I’m not like that when I get older.
I have a mother (age96) who ignored housekeeping all her life. My sister goes over now and then to sweep, empty garbage, etc. and other obvious needs. My sister was sick last week and told Mom she wasn’t coming…Mom said that’s okay. My sister said, she really doesn’t care! Why do I bother? I am the oldest of 8 children, so you can imagine the filth we grew up in…I was ashamed to invite friends to our home. Even now, if my home is not in order, I cringe if someone comes over unannounced! So, you are not alone, Menagerie.
Having received a sobering diagnosis last year, I’ve been going through my “stuff” and actually labelling it for my son. “Your Dad and I bought this at xxx in 19XX. As we stood in the store, he said xxx to me.” “My Mom made this when she was six, in Antwerp. Her teacher kept tearing it apart until my Mom got the stitches right.” My son knows that whatever is NOT labelled means the items have no particular legacy value. When my son visited last year post-surgery, I showed him some of the notes. He was extremely appreciative. He and my DIL will know what things mattered to me, and why. Even better, the little notes tell stories that he otherwise would not have heard. I know that he will preserve those stories (if not the actual things) for my grandchildren. The little stories are like a diary without any morbid or prurient details:)
When my mom was in her 70s she started writing “a book” about her life. She didn’t get all the way to the end but most of the important things like family connections and genealogy are in there. Some of the stories are things she used to tell us all the time while growing up. But now I have this information written down for her grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I really got a lot of insight into why my mom was the way she was in certain areas. She was a wonderful mom and had a very long and interesting life.
She lived to 102. The last 10 years she was in a nursing home. By the time she hit 99 I used to visit her (she could barely see or hear at that point but still recognized me most of the time), and I would sit there and wonder why God hadn’t taken her yet.
Then one day I realized the answer. God couldn’t take her yet because she still had lessons her children needed to learn from her. And I certainly did learn a lot in those last few years of her life.
“Then one day I realized the answer. God couldn’t take her yet because she still had lessons her children needed to learn from her. ” Okay, I’m officially teary over that:)
What a generous and loving thing to do!
My mom would keep absolute junk, and throw away thing like my baseball card collection behind my back! Which was probably worth a small fortune years later…
This all reminded me of a story my Mom mentioned once, (she was not much of a mentioner). Details from her life are as hens’ teeth.
Her Grandmother died and while the family was at the cemetery burying her, the outlaw cousins went to the house and cleaned it out. They were already poor, so I can’t imagine there was much worth taking, but you know, free stuff.
The Scandinavians have it right. Döstädning, or death cleaning. My Norwegian grandmother in-law totally cleaned everything after learning of her cancer. Every item of value (she was an avid collector of antiques) received a sticker from her with the name of the relative of friend that was to receive it at her passing. A great way to leave the the earth – remembering those that you loved as you assigned the new homes to the things she treasured.
I read a book called The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning (or something like that). It was great.
I’ve tried to get keepsakes from my passed on relative’s.
You look at it , and you’re reminded of them .
With my dad’s mom ,it’s a piece of beleek she got from Ireland.
Her daughter,my favorite aunt had it when she passed.
With my mom’s mom ,it’s an old wishing well cookie jar made by McCoy.
I love old stuff !
Reading all these stories make me sort of thankful for my own experience. My parents lived a comfortable middle class life in a modest home and never kept anything they didn’t need. When dad passed my mom was moved to a seniors’ community and my 3 siblings and I each took a few things that we wanted but there was no fighting or bitterness about anything. I guess it was all kind of boring compared to some stories here. I am always amazed when I hear about how families are torn apart by greed after their parents die.
not boring. exceptional!
When someone in the family or friend who was the last owner of a household or estate dies, and I “pray for the family”…my intention is always that the living siblings/family will remain peaceful and loving toward each other, even grow more close.
Definitely not boring. It’s the best kind of these stories, and thankfully one I can relate to.
After my father passed, having survived my mother, it was time to go through the house. We were not a tight knit family, by any means, but shared enough of the salt-of-the-earth values that our parents instilled in us.
Everything was divided up with the respect, care, and concern that siblings should have for one another, regardless of whatever differences they may have.
Since then my sisters and I have seen greater distances grow between us. Call it political divisions. But regardless of that, had we to go through the process of clearing and dividing up our parents home, I’ve no doubt it would happen exactly as it did 20 years ago, thankfully.
With love to Mom and Dad ❤️
No disrespect but even Menegerie has succumbed to the LBGTQRSTUV Partner thing. I guess were supposed to treat our enemies well even LOVE them. I am not afraid of homosexuals I will till the day I die refer to them as homos just as my Lord does. Partner in my era meant business confidant if you did business with someone and wanted to continue doing business with them you treated them fair. Never would one attempt to have sex with them. I believe the above meant strange sexual partner. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. God Bless I Take Gods word Literal and always will.
I love how people say “no disrespect” right before they totally show overwhelming disrespect. You don’t know me, my views, what I have succumbed to. Your comment is judgemental filth.
So, let me, with all disrespect fully acknowledged, tell you to blow off. Don’t comment on my posts again. Go find someone perfect to meet your totally unfounded on reality expectations.
I wouldn’t have taken offense to this if virtually everything you said was not based on inductive reasoning starting with one word.
((((( ❣️ )))))
There is always one who
always tries to pick one
piece of a delightful story
and try to twist and ruin it.
🧌🧌🧌🧌
And the key word-try.
🎳Gene must bowl
a lot …..and his brain
is in the gutter along with
his balls.
Guess Gene never did
square dancing……😂😂
Swing your Partner round
and round….👨🏼🌾👩🌾🎼🎼🎼
😂
Bless you Menagerie.
You handled that quite well👏👏
Luke 10: 25-37
Go and do likewise.
My usual reply to an a hole is – Suck up and Bust.
Oh my…Are you out of your mind? I have been with My “Partner” for over 27 years
We have never been married and quite frankly have not thought about it…
She is the love of my life, She is always in my thoughts and dreams.
I always refer to her as my partner…always have…always will
We are a heterosexual couple
You know when I read what Menegerie wrote – I have to be honest with you, What you spewed never crossed my mind
It’s quite a shame that you found time in your busy day to assume what you did. But that’s what people like you tend to do.
You are probably as stimulating as an end table….
I think it’s a matter of politeness these days. And where has politeness gotten us so far? Being polite and nice has led us to being called enemies of the state if we do not bend and kneel to Satan’s will. The problem is we have been negotiating with the devil. There is no negotiating with Satan; we will always lose. What someone does in the privacy of their home is their business but they should not expect us to bend to their beliefs and twisting of language into normalcy, but they have. It all began with getting rid of God and The Ten Commandments, and look where we are. We are on the precipice. Satan could come up from his kingdom in hell, look around our our cities of filth and say, “Is this my hell or the hell my minions created on earth? I can’t tell the difference!”
I’m not perfect, I don’t know if I will pass through the eye of a needle but I try to follow His laws.
One of my Mom’s achievements was being awarded the state 4H Gold Star Pin! I feel sure she would have been a Home Economics major; she was quite proud of 2 of her 1st cousins that did earn that credential. Mom did graduate from Business College & was quite adept at secretarial skills. But, that 4H pin & growing up on a farm taught her so much … excellent homemaker with culinary, gardening, canning, freezing, making jelly, sewing, furntiure refinishing, and on & on. My surprise “find” was she kept a dress sewn by me when I was about 20 years old. It was a winter white, fully lined wool dress with much top stitching. It really was a difficult pattern to make. The find made me smile … thinking she was proud of my workmanship. That had to be the reason it was tucked away in her cedar chest.
I am old enough to know what “winter white” means.
My mother-in-law was what I would call a semi-hoarder. I always thought it was because she grew up in depression plagued Louisiana and had a built in knowledge of the possible value of anything she came to possess. But she had the additional quirk of stashing small amounts of money and other smallish valuables inside old magazines and stored in cardboard boxes that she carried with her every time she moved to another location. My wife got the responsibility of cleaning out her last home so it could be sold and we could bring her to an assisted living facility here in Colorado.
It took my wife several weeks to get this done. The good news is that my wife found some of her valuables by asking her where to look for them. The bad news is that she had no idea she had stashed away most of the stuff my wife found. My wife had to go through every newspaper, every magazine, and every small container that was found in every box. The sum total of all the stuff found was not worth the time spent searching for it.
The biggest surprise was finding that the 86 year old lady had carted around a 250 pound concrete sink that she had once used inside a small backyard greenhouse at a house she had not lived in for more than 30 years! My wife could not even get her arms around this thing, much less lift it, and my mother-in-law was much smaller than my wife. We still don’t know how she managed to move that thing around with her for at least 7 different moves made she made during those thirty years. All she told my wife was that the concrete sink was the most valuable thing she owned and she would not part with it.
The sink wasn’t worth a damn by then and the concrete had some chips and cracks in it, but she had an emotional attachment to it. So, I told my wife to leave it next to the back patio of the house where she found it and make it into an outdoor potted plant. She did and my mother-in-law was satisfied as long as she knew where it would always be. But she never said another word about that sink to either of us. She died about a year later. We still laugh about the house we sold with the unique potted plant by the patio. But I am sure somebody
That reminds me of my in-laws. Every time they moved there were these mysterious boxes of dirt that went with them. There was always a lot of speculation among the children as to what they were for but, to this day, 20 years after they passed, nobody knows why they kept that dirt.
I might know. I had a dear neighbor who had to move 700 miles from our neighbor hood. We gave her a going away party. She received many nice gifts to take to her new home. I, being somewhat different gave her a Mason Jar filled with Georgia Red Clay. Tied up with a big beautiful bow. We kept in touch and she told me it was her most favorite gift. A year later she was killed by a drunk driver. Her 2 beautiful teenage daughters moved back to GA.with that jar of ‘Dirt’
Ok … I looked but couldn’t find, how is the rock used? (Remember I’m Latin from South America!) 😅
It weights down the cabbage while it is fermenting into sour kraut.
Oh… Thank you!!
Kinda funny, I noticed a nice small red jasper type of rock in our creek one day. It was about a pound, interesting looking, so I picked it up and carried it home.
Showed it to the wife and she said neat, went back to what she was doing. It sat on the window sill for a few months then got tossed out into a flower bed.
A few years go by, the wife is looking for a way to keep some of her rabbits warm on a cold night so I go get that rock and put it on the woodstove. It gets nice and warm but not so hot as the burn anything and she puts it in with her newborn bunnies.
Now the rock is always next to the woodstove and the wife slips it into her coat pocket as a handwarmer on cold days. Some day someone is going to wonder why that rock is sitting there on the woodstove.
nothing better than a sweet bunny story!
When I was going thru my godparents house after they died I found a rock in a box. Wrapped in a towel. I figured it was from a great vacation. A hike in the woods. I dug up some of their white violets. Took that rock and put it in my yard. Right in the middle of their violets.
It’s been my experience that folks who save seemingly useless things have often suffered through great want, as so many did during the Great Depression or have suffered great losses, like the death of loved ones.
It çan be a way to feel prepared for the trials of life.
GOD BLESS my 97 year old mom (still with us for now, Thank Heaven!). She celebrated a very inspirational birthday when she turned 90, and I plan to do something similar…but maybe at an earlier age; I can’t count on making it to 90+
She has 6 adult children and 19 adult grandchildren (several great-grands too). My dad passed away about 7 years earlier, so she was settled into widow life and decided it was time to clean house and get rid of things not being used. My sister-in-law helped tremendously, spending a few hours one day per week pulling stuff out of her 3 attics and several closets, then sorting them: do YOU ever use this? Does it have momento value? Would someone in the family want or make use of it? Should it be donated? or discarded?
On her 90th birthday my sister-in-law hosted a big pot-luck party for all the kids, grandkids, and more. All of those items that were a family momento and/or useful were displayed on tables around the garage for all to peruse and share stories about them, such as my dad’s purple heart, silver tray wedding gifts, old photos, etc. After dinner, each of the six “kids” drew a number from a bowl, #1-6; then the 19 grandkids drew numbers from #7-25. In order of the numbers drawn, we all got to select an item from the tables. After the last person, we rotated back to #1. IT WAS SO REWARDING for my mom to SEE which person took WHAT item, sometimes surprising. And for myself, and likely everyone, to see what each other selected. I think “my number” came up 3 or 4 times. One of the last items on the table was an old framed Sacred Heart print, about 11×16, which I finally took partly out of “guilt” after seeing it look so “lonely” on the table, un-chosen. Then my sister-in-law told me to read the back of it. Turns out, the print was given to my mom at school (Catholic high school) as an academic award, and my grandfather was so proud of it when she brought it home that he bought a frame for it and hung it up. I can recall seeing that print over many visits through my childhood and young adulthood, prominently displayed at my grandparents’ house. It hangs in my living room now.
p.s. All of the things she still uses, or a few that hold great memory value to her, she kept in the house. She has recorded in a notebook to whom those items will go upon her passing.
What a great story. Thanks for sharing.
Sundance and/or Menagerie, these entries might compile nicely into a book…?
🙂
Such a fabulous 💡 idea. I certainly would enjoy such a book. I see snippets of my life in each of these post…
Menagerie, thank you for starting this story-telling. I woke up in a “mood.” I did remember to thank the Lord within a few minutes of waking – for *all* of it, then decided that the long list of things that really need attention is simply going to have to wait until I feel up to tackling it. While night-owl hubby sleeps, I’m snuggled in a quilt made by my adolescent-era best friend (whose family was my second family all of whom I still cherish). I thought maybe I’d start with a peek at CTH just to see if maybe there was a hopeful headline. What I found was your story, followed by the amazing/sweet/sad/inspiring/uplifting stories and comments by this community I stumbled into at first with skepticism a very few short years ago.
My “mood” has shifted.
The comments and stories are also timely, since we are at the stage when one little thing can alter our reality in a split second.
Blessings to all.
Thank you for this story, I really enjoyed it.
I’m in my late 50’s and every weekend I try to go through something. A drawer, a shelf in our storage room. Between Christmas and NYs I have a tradition now where I completely empty my closet and if I haven’t wore it, I ask myself why. Usually it either doesn’t fit anymore or there’s some sort of problem with it – zipper isn’t good, etc. And…I get rid of it.
My husband is the complete opposite. This holiday I completely emptied his office. He runs a family owned horticulture business and this year will be their 40th year in business. Oh my. What a mess. Filing cabinets with papers from the 80’s and 90’s. Desks and chairs that were not only very outdated but in bad shape. As I started, no one helped me. But, then, his employees started helping and then a couple days later my husband joined us. I have never been prouder of him. Sure, he still wanted to keep stuff, but, I calmly shared the reason for it to go and he usually agreed.
My point, is – it is hard for people like my husband. He admits it and then smiles and says that’s why God gave me you. Going through this with him helped our marriage. I had asked him several times, “Hey, I’m going to start the office clean up in X weeks. You need to go through your stuff.” Now I realize it isn’t that he didn’t “do it” it is that he couldn’t bring himself to do it.
Anyway, sorry for the novel.
But Menagerie … the rock didn’t smell of sauerkraut?
Born to 2 Depression era parents. Our folks had moved to a single floor apartment with fewer bedrooms and no basement so we had gone through a lot of the things in the house before the move.
What occurred to me after both had passed away was that the things that my siblings and I (and grandkids) wanted were items that had special meaning but very little actual value. Some things hadn’t been passed along the way several of us thought they should have been and that’s caused some issues.
I’ve discussed with my hubby that we need to clarify with our kids they should let us know if they would like anything in particular that has special meaning to them so we can get things sorted out so something similar doesn’t happen to them.
Who is Menagerie? I love the way she thinks and the way she writes. I understand and sympathize with her mother and her “hoarding” activity. “That’s still good.”, “You can’t throw that out. I can make it work.”, “I can use that for something.”, etc. I have similar sensibilities, maybe not to the same degree.
Menagarie is one of the Breitbart Deputies who is one of the founders and moderators of the Treehouse,
My husband’s parents both turned out to be packrats. His mom predeceased his dad by 30+ yrs, yet his dad never disposed of her belongings except clothes, even when he remarried shortly thereafter.
So after his death, my husband & brother were left with the chores. Their father told them he had a set up a trust agreement & we found a copy but not the original signed. The lawyer who prepared it was long dead with no surviving law firm. We went to all his safety deposit boxes at banks, no luck.
Finally, I was down in the basement going thru desks, boxes, luggage, etc. I spotted a brief case, opened it, & there it was. In another place we found a total revision rearranging & striking down parts of the trust.
While his dad told his boys there was a trust, he never discussed the terms & what he intended to do with his estate, just saying all his property was to go into the trust. Still scratching my head over the need for all the secrecy & the resulting “treasure hunt.”
Banks, DMVs, etc. , need signed trust agreements, powers of attorneys, etc. The larger purpose for trust agreements is usually to avoid probate. Another thing to keep in mind setting up your own estate or closing out someone else’s estate & it varies from state to state.
My dear departed husband was born in a one room log cabin on the family farm. The farm was originally deeded to his forefathers in a land grant, circa 1780’s. He inherited the ‘gene’, waste not, want not. While not a horder, he was certainly a pack rat. After his passing I ( alone) had the task of seeing his beloved farm was sold and was downsizing our home in another state. As I came across ,yet another box in our basement with no lable, I broke out into great laughter. He had saved,a burned out light bulb. He had it labeled with tape with the words written on the tape…”Burned out Bulb”
My mom had an “eggplant” rock on the back porch. She would wrap her eggplant slices in thin towels, put them inside a brown paper bag, and place the whole thing on the back porch in direct sunlight and put the eggplant rock on top. After a few hours later of squishing, she would remove the rock, bring in the bag, unwrap her package, and begin the process of breading and frying her eggplant slices. Mmmm!
My parents downsized quite a few times in their later years. So, when they passed away there wasn’t too much to deal with. However, I found something in the attic after my father died. It was a drill. Now, he had grown up during the depression and was always fixing things instead of throwing them away. This drill was obviously very old, it had an old fashioned cloth wrapped electric cord and an old fashioned plug on the end. The drill itself had been super glued back together in places and the handle was duck taped back on. My father had a couple of new drills, one with a cord and one cordless, so I couldn’t figure out why he kept that old one. It must have been sentimental was all I could come up with.
I have that same (kinda) drill. It’s brand is Wizard. Think it was made by Western Auto. They were a hardware chain. In every town in the south….
I love this !
My husband and I made sauerkraut every year with another couple.
Dad gave me all of his crocks before he died, (he had several in perfect condition that we also used for pickling, butter, cream, etc).
The rock story makes sense, because we too had to locate at least one perfect rock, as a weight on top of the plate, over the cheesecloth covering our fresh made sauerkraut! We were fortunate since we had a dirt floor cellar with bins for root cellar, shelves for homemade wine, and canned goods also.
Wow! We thought we were poor and struggling to make ends meet.
Little did we know just how rich we really were.
My parents weren’t hoarders but did save and keep many family documents, letters, and photographs. Not long ago I found a box of about a hundred 70MM slides that had never been developed into prints. I searched high and low for a 70MM slide viewer for my scanner but didn’t find one, so I took pictures of the slides on a light table using my cell phone in “negative” mode to create a JPG file, which worked well. I put them on a thumb drive and sent one to each of my 4 siblings.
Anyway, the many letters and family history documents, including family trees, are things I want to pass to my only adult son and his wife, so they keep the knowledge of their ancestors. They go back to the early 1920’s and beyond. My grandmother’s maiden name was Ashby, and we have a long history of military heroes in both the Revolutionary and Civil Wars, including Turner Ashby who served along with his brother Richard under Stonewall Jackson. Turner Ashby’s uncle was commissioned to a fort in Kentucky by George Washington, which was later named Fort Ashby.
I love stories with a twist.
The late Mr. Z was a survival expert and instructor. After working at Apple computer for many years , he became the Director of a large wilderness survival school, in NJ. After almost a decade there, he started his own survival school but it focused on urban survival, escape and evasion, and Indian scout skills.
He had been contacted by a production company in the UK that produced material for the History Channel. They were putting together a 2 hour documentary that included dramatic parts with actors, and they wanted his expertise in creating the story and also being one of the Talking Heads, experts in the documentary.
So he and I have traveled to New York City, Harlem actually, and arrived at a four-story dilapidated building that the film crew was using as a set. (While he was filming all of his parts, I actually sat and talked to the chief epidemiologist of the UK and about what his role was. He actually told me that when he was first put in charge, they had to do a complete revamp of the existing epidemic protocol because they originally scheduled college students to act as triage workers in the event of a pandemic. He said for epidemics in the past it was often the healthiest Young people with very strong immune systems who were hit the hardest due to something called a cytokine storm in the body. The immune system is so strong and overreacts and people essentially drowned in their own fluids. So middle-aged people were swapped in as the potential triage workers. Anyway, back to the main story…)
So quite a few months later we are anticipating this appearing on the History Channel. Meanwhile, we had traveled out of town for the new year with our children. We returned to find that our normally outdoor cats, being care for by the neighbor, had somehow gotten into the house while we were gone. We had adopted these semi feral cats and they’ve never been in the house. WE discovered that one of them was under
our large California king size bed. Nothing we did could dislodge him from under the bed.
At which point Mr. Z decided to slowly move the bed from behind the cat, which was facing the other direction. As he push the bed away from over the cat, he reached down and grabbed the cat by the scruff. Really bad idea. The cat reacted by sinking its teeth and fangs into Mr. Z’s hand right at the fatty part between the thumb and first finger. It created at least six puncture holes.
We didn’t know about cat bites and how much worse they are than actual dog bites. Cat bites inject bacteria deep into the skin, well dog bites dog bites typically tear the top of the skin. Essentially it’s impossible to clean out a cat bite thoroughly, and within a few hours Mr. Z had red streaks starting to creep up his arm in spite of our best efforts.
We went to the ER at which point the doctor said to the nurse: “Put him on morphine and admit him immediately.” Mr. Z was given massive doses of antibiotics IV. He was in the hospital for 5 days, and on day 2 or 3 required hand surgery to put drains in each of the wounds. The doctor later told us that Mr. Z had been about one hour from death when we arrived at the ER.
Meanwhile I was at home with seven children when the electricity went out due to a big windstorm and was out for three or four days. We had a well that ran on an electric pump, so no water. Our generator so loud and such a pain to handle, so I tried to do some workarounds but I was really struggling. Remember, Mr. Z was the survival expert, so emergencies were his domain.
So, Mr. Z is recuperating in his hospital bed watching TV when commercials started popping for his upcoming program “After Armageddon” on the History Channel. I had no electricity and couldn’t see the commercials, but Mr. Z said the nurses would come in to check on him or help him and see the commercials and say “Hey wait a minute – is that you?” It was surreal, he said.
So I end up watching the program for the first time seated at the side of my husband’s hospital bed. And it was then that I discovered that the show, which was about how people would escape the city after a deadly pandemic, ended with the main character getting an infection from a puncture by rusted metal, resulting in tetanus.
I was incredulous. He dies from an infection??!!
Mr. Z had helped create the storyline on this, and now he had almost died from, and was recovering from, (thank God) a puncture related infection.
What are the odds ?
To see a clip with Mr. Z – green shirt – “We’re 9 meals away from anarchy.”
Full 2 hour program:
https://trakt.tv/shows/history-channel-after-armageddon/seasons/all
It can also be purchased at the History Channel – all Youtube links have been deleted apparently.
Sorry….found in the bin. 🙁
Depression era Dad and Mom. She is a purger and sometimes gets rid of stuff I would like. I took care of my Dad as he passed, 14 years ago now. He had some “save this” categories, such as string and to go containers, related to being one of 9 growing up. It took me a while to go though his stuff. Before he died, he would talk about “the locker” and I assumed it was his locker in the Navy. About 6 months after he passed, his neighbor knocked and said I had to go with her. She had found a locker in the storage area that contained a ton of stuff of Dad’s. Books, long underwear, personal papers, random stuff. So there was an actual locker in real time. I laughed.
Read through comments earlier this morning, and they were so wonderfully diverse and entertaining, I had to come back to read the new ones. Menagerie, did you guess what a floodgate you would open? People are opening their hearts with fond, and sometimes not-s0-fond, memories, that may have been lost had your post not prompted us to remember. Thank you so much for providing the opportunity!
I keep going back to look at new post. Have done nothing today at home but feed the dog. Shamefully I’m still in Pajamas….
What a great way to spend the day! And now you’re already dressed appropriately for the evening — as you go back to read the newest comments:)
I was around 8 years old. Playing kick ball in the cinder alley next to our house. My best friend, Leslie, had long blonde pigtails down to her waist and wore pink-framed eyeglasses. My 6 year old younger brother was playing with us. We didn’t have enough people for a real game of kick ball with two opposing teams but the 3 of us made up our own rules. 1st base consisted of a neighbor’s trash can. 2nd base and home plate were scratched into the cinders with the sides of our shoes. 3rd base was a telephone pole. We were playing when a bunch of boys from the next block came over and wanted to play, too. They were from a family on the next block with 7 boys and a rough reputation. Our mother had forbidden us from playing with them. The leader of the boys wore a football helmet, a “cape” tied around his neck (I think it was a bath towel) and carried an old broomstick which he had dipped into fresh dog poop. I told him no they could not play with us and to get off our property. He refused to leave and told me the alley was public property. He was right but I didn’t care. He waved the broomstick with dog poop under my nose to threaten me but I snatched the stick out of his hand and swung it and hit him in the helmet. At this, he and the other boys turned and fled. I will never forget the mighty roars of my little brother and best friend as they punched their little fists in the air and leapt up with joy at the sight. We gave chase until they were off our block. This was the humiliating defeat of The Poop Stick Gang!
LOL. That is really funny and it proves that you have to fight back.
really great story!
Since I have a knack for being cantankerous at times, I blame it on a similar memory. As a wee child, we played cowboy’s and Indians. I was in hot pursuit of a neighbor (indian.) As I rounded their house , I fell into an open septic tank. I don’t remember how I got out. I definitely remember being hosed down, in the yard by my Mother. She was not amused.You never forget that smell…
After my dad moved to an apartment for elderly, I got a greeting card from him, thinking of you kind of thing. There was nothing written it it. It did, however, contain the little card to put on the front of the hospital bassinet: “Baby girl _____” with length and weight. I was long past 39 yo when I received this. My dad had saved that little card all these years! A bunch of kids but he specifically saved mine–his little helper for every job around the house.
One of the most horrible (in sort of good way, I guess….) mailings I EVER received from my mother was in the 1980s. In retrospect, I know that was when the dementia was settling in to stay.
One day I brought the mail in, noticing there was a letter from mom in the familiar handwriting. It was a bit of a lumpy envelope. When I opened it I found——my father’s 1926 wedding ring wrapped in a single kleenex. My heart about stopped. How on earth that envelope survived the mail system from eastern Montana to SoCal high desert, I will never understand. A kleenex wrapped around a gold wedding band and the evelope did not tear.
I was 17 years old, sitting alone at his beside at midnight on a cold snowy March day – when he died. It was definitely not that there was no extended family love support. We each had assigned hours and it was a long process. So there I was.
As I glance down to the keyboard now, there is that ring on my right hand. It is my great comfort that I’m far closer to when I will see him again than I am to when I saw him last. It’s soon 62 years since he left this world. As far as my heart is concerned, it could just as well have been last week.
This is a little different story. My mother-in-law had a very unusual “bowl”. It was huge – about 20 inches across – made of wood. It wasn’t exactly round with a rounded bottom about 3 inches deep. The outer part of the bowl was roughly smoothed. She called it her biscuit board.
Someone looking at it would not realize how unique it was. Her grandfather made it from a huge tree (don’t know what kind, but the wood was hard as a rock) that was cut/chopped down – a feat for a poor farmer in the 1800’s. He must have spent hours chiseling and carving out the rounded inside and smoothing the outside.
That biscuit board made fabulous biscuits almost daily (sometimes twice daily) for more than 100 years. It was never washed, only scraped clean and wiped with a cloth very occasionally. Most of the time, flour was left in it for the next day’s effort.
Ricky Haman was the neighborhood bully. He got in trouble for breaking into our school and throwing black ink all over. (In those days, we had wooden desks with inkwells built in beginning in 2nd grade when we learned to write. When Ricky grew up, he killed his brother and went to prison…so he was a really bad kid!) One day Ricky, who was maybe 13 years old, was in our back yard holding my 6 year old brother upside down by his ankles. (I was about 8 y/o) At first my brother laughed and thought it was funny but Ricky wouldn’t let him go. My brother started crying. I yelled at Ricky and demanded that he let my brother go. He didn’t at first so I kept yelling at him. The way my mother recounts the story, I shook Ricky until he let my brother go. I don’t remember touching him at all but I did yell at him and he finally let my brother go. Funny how people remember stories differently.
Great story. Thank you for sharing.
My father died very suddenly at 71. Had never been in the hospital in his whole life. Saw him in the morning and when I got home that night he had died hours earlier. Never had a will . He joked he would let everyone fight over whatever was left. My mother lived another 25 and and since they both worked in a business they owned my mother was left with a descent amount.
My mother shortly after my father’s passing would give each one of her 4 children $10,000 a year(she stopped after 7 or 8 years). Her reasoning was she would rather help out her children when she was alive and did so to make their lives easier while she was alive.
I worked at a storage facility around a year ago. It was sad to see what happened when an elderly storage unit renter would die. The grandchildren could not be bothered to pickup the memories of everything that were to be discarded. Boxes of family pictures, little league trophies,. Girl scout patches. Precious memories.All to be discarded in the garage. Sad.
Pray and help.others.
This conversation motivated me to find all the old photos and take a nice clear digital picture of each.
To me, the important thing about this story of Mom’s Rock is how special a person is no matter how their lives appear to others. I have heard of smashing cabbage with a rock, but have never done it myself. Perhaps my mom or grandmother me told about the process. The rock was obviously extremely important to the moms, because it represented their tradition and their wonderful memories.
My mother hoarded certain items. She was religious about her magazines. When she passed in 1997, she left a small farm, with a large 2 story house and attic. When my siblings and I sold it, we too had to clean to the buildings.
Like mentioned in the story, my brother and 2 sisters were absolutely no where to be found when going through the process of search, review, keep, trash stage. My sisters took what they wanted before I could inform them they were not to remove any items. My brother moved his friend and her 4 kids in with him. Our lawyer told me I would have to evict him because the house was in probate (mom did leave a will), and the state would not allow anyone to live in it. So my mom’s death caused all kinds of issues.
My adult kids helped me clean out the house and barns, and out buildings. In the attic, we found mountains of magazines from the 50s. She had a mountain of yarn. She had books that numbered into the hundreds.
We found some items (my sisters took most of the more “valuable” items to their homes in other states) that were of a value, but the items cherished are OLD photos of the ancestors, and my parents. I found petrified rocks that she loved, an old, tarnished, paint splattered, small step ladder (still have it), old embroidery hoops, sewing items, and even some fabric.
Along side the mountain of magazines was a 150 yr old family Bible (very large, with a stand). The Bible is a jewel. Inside was a record (although not complete) of my dad’s people. Also, it contained items like ribbons, crushed flowers, book marker. This was especially rewarding.
In the end, my siblings took what they thought were valuable to only sell them over time. The left me the dregs, which I view as priceless. Many items I grew up with. Plus, my mom had my Grandmother’s items. My sisters and brother did not want those old things. I still have them (I am 80), my children have items from their grandmother and great grandmother.
One of my big laughs when I am gone, is when my family will have to go through my hoard. I am a hoarder to some degree. My attic is proof. I have stuff from my grandmothers, my mother, my husband’s parents. It is all of not much value, but to me it is priceless.
People are wonderful. Hanging onto “old” stuff is not so bad…my kids are holding on to me.
Thank you for allowing some memories to be shared. Blessings everyone.
‘My sisters and brother did not want those old things.”
That was my blessing as well. I was the youngest of seven. The five older siblings didn’t want any of it. My brother next up in age from me valued and received some, and by the time he was ready to pass it on he realized I was the family archivist, so I received several precious things from him.
And then you said…...”Hanging onto ‘old’ stuff is not so bad…my kids are holding on to me”…
….that line is a candidate for either the name of a blog or a book of family stories….so fine!….I’m gonna send that on to my sons, now in their mid-50s.
I’m so glad they’re hanging on to me. Every year on Mother’s Day, we have a little fun with this: I tell them I’d really like to re-up for another year, and they always good to go with that idea….it’s a massive blessing when our adult children like us, among a million other blessings they bring.
I am blessed with a bunch of families around me. I have son in Idaho and a daughter in Arizona, and a daughter next to me. I have a bunch of grandkids, and 5 great grands. Animals, and friends. My kids make sure I am included in everything…even if far away. That is one great perk with cell phones. I love getting texts from busy grands.
Enjoy and be thankful for those who “hold” onto you. Blessings.
All of us “old folks” need to keep up with technology or else we will lose touch with our grandchildren and great-grands. Texts are awesome.
Curiosity is getting the best of me.
“My mother would never tell me where any valuables were, and I couldn’t even find her important papers, which were not in the box at the bank.”
Where were they hidden?
That is a beautiful story, Menagerie.
While not with a twist, I do have two experiences ‘cleaning out’
that make my home a small museum of relics, some set aside, some prominently
displayed, some played, and one used most days.
My maternal Grandmother, a single mother of three after her
husband passed in the early 1950s, settled in a small town in southeastern Vermont.
She worked at Stanley Tools back when Vermont was still a Republican state.
Of her three children, her oldest, shipped off to Korea, and served as a helicopter medic, an experience that inexorably altered his life. My Uncle, who I met at most 3 or 4 times, moved south, and worked at a battery factory in Cleveland, Tennessee, living a life somewhat estranged from the family.
My Dad and my Mom married in that village and eventually bought a small cape with a westward view of the Taconic range and the border of New York State, in one county south, in the middle of Berkshire County, Massachusetts.
My mother’s 2nd brother, the middle sibling, kind-hearted yet a mental aptitude of a 10 year old, lived with my Grandmother throughout her life. After he passed sometime after the turn of the 21st century, Mom, Dad and I cleared out Grandma’s house.
While my paternal grandparents and paternal grandfather formed a genetic soup of beaten down tribes, it was clear that my Grandmother came from a family of some modest means, perhaps typical of yeoman farming families of New England. In short, they owned their property and had some means to produce food and energy and to dress up for Sunday. In my mindeye’s, I can see one of someone I imagine to be ‘Uncle Earl’ and his wife leading two horses out of barn.
After we completed the clean-out, I brought home a cache of cabinet photos, my Grandmother’s secretariat desk and a rock solid circular two leaf, handmade, hardwood table, circa 1850, long since adopted as my front dining room table, on which I enjoyed my breakfast while reading your post and as I reply.
This fall, my parents cleaned out their home of 55+ years in preparation of moving into assisted living closer to higher quality Rockefeller medicine in the Twin Cities near where both my brothers live. My fiancé, who I introduced to my parents during the visit, accompanied me, as I headed back home, for perhaps the last time, to those once more familiar hills in Western Massachusetts.
We ate breakfast and admired my father’s garden, posed for photos in front of a fully blooming hydrangea, and then proceeded to fill my truck with the practical and the memorable. Dad offered many gardening tools, a wheelbarrow/handcart and a couple boxes of tools from a lifetime of professional and personal work.
On sentimental level Dad gave me his Epiphone steel string guitar and Mom a picture of her paternal Grandfather in an oval frame in his Sunday best, cleanshaven, wearing a black suit with pressed white shirt and a white tie. He is there, in my dining room, gazing from the late 19th century.