Finally, almost two months later, CTH suspicions are confirmed {GO DEEP}. You might remember when the USS Carney intercepted 15 drones and cruise missiles in the Red Sea in October, we said something was sketchy about the Western media reporting on it. The political narrative (not from the Pentagon) was that the missiles were heading to Israel, but that didn’t pass the proverbial sniff test {GO DEEP ##2}.
Given the nature of the political climate at the time, and accepting the limited range of Yemeni cruise missiles, CTH surmised the actual target of the October 19th attack was the U.S. naval fleet, not Israel. However, people poo-pooed our analysis and said, unlikely. Well, today the Pentagon admits the U.S. naval fleet is being targeted.
This is a very big deal, because the reality of the U.S. being targeted changes the political calculation and risk metric. The Biden administration would not want American citizens to think about our own military being involved in an expanded Israel-Hamas war directly, but that’s exactly what is happening. THAT my friends was the motive for being obtuse in the first wave of attacks in October.
The AP is correct when they say, “the attack potentially marks a major escalation in a series of maritime attacks in the Mideast linked to the Israel-Hamas war.” ‘Potentially’? Nonsense. It is a major escalation. The other big revelation is that WE were the likely target two months ago.
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Three commercial ships in the Red Sea were struck by ballistic missiles fired from Houthi-controlled Yemen on Sunday and a U.S. warship shot down three drones in self-defense during the hourslong assault, the U.S. military said. Responsibility for the attack was claimed by the Houthi rebels, who are backed by Iran.
The attacks marked an escalation in a series of maritime attacks in the Mideast linked to the Israel-Hamas war, as multiple vessels found themselves in the crosshairs of a single Houthi assault for the first time in the conflict.
In a statement, U.S. Central Command said the attacks “represent a direct threat to international commerce and maritime security. They have jeopardized the lives of international crews representing multiple countries around the world.” It said the three commercial ships and their crews are connected to 14 countries.
About 30 minutes later, the Unity Explorer was hit by a missile, and while responding to the distress call the Carney shot down another incoming drone. Central Command said the Unity Explorer reported minor damage from the missile.
Two other commercial ships, the Panamanian-flagged bulk carriers Number 9 and Sophie II, were both struck by missiles. The Number 9 reported some damage but no casualties, and the Sophie II reported no significant damage.
While sailing to assist the Sophie II, the Carney shot down another drone heading in its direction. The drones did no damage. (read more)
CHECK DATE:
Our guys are the target! /SD
Prayers for protection over our Navy.
…On March 17, 2017 in the al-Jidah neighborhood of West Mosul the US dropped a precision guided bomb to eliminate two ISIS snipers on the second floor of an apartment building, killing up to 300 civilians…
https://www.camera.org/article/excessive-force-and-the-israel-hamas-war/
…The Battle to Free Mosul – Up to 40,000 civilians killed…
Evidently, the US has killed between 3 – 11 million civilians. Not sure of the dates. Nevertheless, those numbers are up there with the baddies of the world.
I remember President Trump was howled down when he said America wasn’t a angel when dealing with other nations.
Seems that is the goal of terrorists. Strike where the most innocents’ lives will be taken. Gives them a good crying point while the instigators are acclaimed heroes of the fight.
How many Americans did the snipers kill, Larry? Or does your concern only run in one direction? And why did they decide to shoot from an apartment building full of civilians? Seems like they intentionally decided to sacrifice their fellow muslims. Actions have consequences.
The children in the apartment building were ISIS? If all civilians ate combatants let’s stop bleating about innocents killed in 9 11
WTF are you talking about? Were people in the Twin Towers shooting at muslims? If you are using human shields then you are responsible for their deaths.
Bingo.
Exactly…
Were there any militants in the Twin Towers on 9/11? The target was civilians by whoever made that attack.
Psychopathic killers and serial murderers have nothing on Hamas. The belief that God approves their actions is another delusion Hamas shares with the insane among us.
well said.
Civilians always carry an excessive toll of death during war. This is the major evil of armed conflict. In world War ll civilians were openly targeted by aerial bombardment including fire bombing civilians in Germany and Japan even incineration by atomic weaponry. Remember? This why avoidance of war is absolutely required except in time of existential threat. This unfortunate outcome is part if the horror of war quit acti g like it is avoidable. It us not.
“Wj” is probably one of the newer “educated” where actual history is not taught.
A favorite strategy of the Wehrmacht was stationing Anti-Aircraft sights in civilian neighborhoods, on building rooftops, and near civilian hospitals. This didn’t slow down the Allied bombing Campaign in the slightest. The NAZIs were planning on a negotiated end to the war and being able to bring evidence of the Allies atrocities when they shot up AA batteries. Does this sound familiar? Engage the Houthi sights now.
Actually, when the war was over in Europe my German mother said civilians would be very careful walking in the open or working in a field. Pilots would fly over and terrorize the population, shooting at animals in a field or people in the open.
So, is Biden paying you to be here or are you just coming along for the ride?
You mean like that baby that hamas kidnapped and murdered in their custody?
I remember hamas and the #EneMedia claiming he and the rest were Israeli Military and acceptable targets!
I mean they may have gotten away with it with the 85(?) year old man hamas kidnapped and murdered because he may have served at some point before retirement.
Burt what about all those girls and guys at a concert who were not even Israeli?
Now that gats in the way of military targets, unless YOU accept that they are at war with ALL the KAFIR of the WORLD!
Which, of course, they are.
You have an interesting sense of proportionality.
What would be your sense of proportionality?
Not intentionally killing 300 civilians to terminate two snipers.
Where do you draw the line?
500?
1000?
5000?
Administratively speaking you can argue for the value of a “line”.
In Executive decision making mode, did the task accomplish the goal?
We don’t use no stinkin’ lines.
Caleb, what would be your proposal to take out the snipers, knowing that the ISIS snipers are using “innocent” civilians as human shields?
Certainly not a JDAM on an apartment building filled with non combatants.
Apache or UAV with AGM-114s.
A 20lb HM warhead vs the lightest JDAM at 500lb.
or
Counter sniping.
If you cannot understand that fragging a 1oo civvies is better than killing 300…
Silly concept. Retaliation and proportionality have no business in the same conversation.
“Silly concept. Retaliation and proportionality have no business in the same conversation.”
For you that may or may not be the case.
And yet, in literally every western military, re strategic planning, proportional responses to events are discussed at some point during operational planning.
Amd how many wars have we won since WW2…. None, but lost hundreds of thousands of men?
Yes and no.
You are correct and incorrect because we in the USA have a fraudulent government filled with traitors.
Congress has NOT declared a War since WWII.
We haven’t had a lawful conflict since WWII.
All those “wars” were illegal and they were unconstitutional.
Now remove all ability of the Military Industrial Complex to wage “war” when it wants and only when lawfully declared by Congress.
Talk about ruffling the feathers of the criminal cartels.
excellent points.
We were not at war with Iraq.
Which is why wars, in the last 4 plus decades have been drawn out for years and years with no victory. What toll does that take?
That’s political policy perpetuated by successive Governments.
Another conversation altogether.
We shouldn’t’ve have been in Iraq in the first place.
There was no benefit in it.
By the Lawyers.
No, not by lawyers.
By command .
We elected to remove Saddam. We did not declare war on Iraq.
This was never going to be Germany in the 40s.
Bush and Cheney chose a personally profitable war of adventure, over love of country.
It will be remembered as a monumental blunder.
You are correct Botched. The US Military should have used a 10 megaton nuke on those snipers. Think of all the blood that would be on the snipers’ hands.
Wow, the Biden faction is on her in force today.
If you’re a sniper, you won’t be concerned regarding the blood on your hands. Unless, of course, it’s blood from your victims and that’s the reason you’re a sniper.
What were the snipers doing in an apartment building?
Having tea?
Changing diapers of their 12 children … because they’ve liberated their wives from all the domestic drudgery.
I think they were invited. You know, Allah is great.
Oversimplification with an agenda in that “report”.
From the report:
Coalition forces (Iraqi, Kurds and others) requested that strike. The strike was carried out by US warplanes but REQUESTED by the coalition forces.
The approval authority was not aware that there were that many civilians in the building
There were explosives stored in that building and the secondary explosions caused more damage than the planned strike.
Nothing is ever as simple as it seems especially when a narrative to excuse civilian casualties in Gaza is the agenda of the article.
Apples don’t compare to Oranges.
Should the US have been in MOSUL and IRAQ? Different question.
…How many angels can dance on the head of a pin…
Play with the bull… get the horn.
I wonder if the populace sat still in subsequent situations?
What’s your point?
I see the Biden faction has shown up this morning. Prepare for more of them as CTH gets more press.
In reading the comments you can glean that they did not read the article.
The US-led coalition airstrike on March 17, 2017, in Mosul, Iraq, was a tragic event that resulted in the deaths of many civilians. The airstrike was intended to target two ISIS snipers who were firing on Iraqi forces, but it also detonated a large cache of explosives that ISIS had stored in the building. This secondary explosion caused the building to collapse, killing many of the civilians who were sheltering inside.
The incident sparked outrage and condemnation from around the world, and it raised serious questions about the use of airstrikes in populated areas. An investigation by the US military found that the airstrike was conducted in accordance with US rules of engagement, but it also acknowledged that the coalition had not taken adequate steps to mitigate the risk of civilian casualties.
The US-led coalition has since taken steps to improve its targeting procedures and to reduce the risk of civilian casualties in airstrikes. However, the Mosul airstrike remains a stark reminder of the devastating consequences that can occur when airstrikes are used in populated areas.
I don’t believe this.
Just more internet posting.
LBJ
Thought no one could be worse
It is terrible that good Sailors and Marines are in harm’s way while under the command of the illegitimate traitor scum in D.C.
I want the “Pentagon TO Admit” . . . that the leadership of our nation is putting our troops in serious harm’s way.
That’ll never happen
DONT let your children/grand children join bidens woke military!
If the progeny of conservatives do not join the military, the military, the last bastion, will be turned against Conservatives. Don’t be stupid. A woke military without conservatives will kill us if we resist.
Conservatives and Patriots are being driven from the military. And it is not just the free surgical mutilation and DIE levels of anti white discrimination. The military is hostile to good people.
How would conservatives in a military run by woke leaders make a difference?
What about the IRS, FBI, DOJ, DHS, et al
Before them the military wilt!
It’s already been turned against conservatives. Obama got rid of conservative generals. Look at all the trouble Trump had with the generals.
Next step…?
“…behind every blade of grass….”
What about them joining his underage sniff list.
When conservatives leave our institutions, there is a vacuum. That vacuum sucks in those with far-left ideological agendas. There is a teacher shortage across the nation. I am a 35 year veteran teacher in Indiana. I have watched positions go unfilled, only to have a substitute with no knowledge all year long. Positions that are filled go to freshly indoctrinated college kids. Those of us conservatives out on the front lines trying to protect the kids are wondering why no one comes to help! It is THIS attitude! Withdraw, retreat!
What if conservatives with some guts applied for those teaching jobs or substitute jobs? (Many places will let you teach without a license, the shortage is so great) What if we took back our school houses and institutions? What if WE were the ones driving the classroom instruction and monitoring what was happening in the military from the inside? Instead of encouraging one another to retreat, what if we said, “For freedom!” and joined the battle!
My son joined the Navy this year and I couldn’t be more proud of him! I watched him go from an aimless kid sabotaging his own life to a responsible and respectful young man who now says “I love you” to his mom. I often wonder what the motive is to encourage others to withdraw. It is the perfect strategy to lose the war.
I understand your points, ALL of them. But my heart breaks for all of the good, salt of the earth men, that have been sent home in body bags or maimed for life because of our military’s idiotic rules of engagement under the military’s leadership for decades.
It is obvious that the “Rules of Engagement” are not designed to WIN wars, but to manipulate them. It is a game played by politicians, much to our detriment.
My heart breaks too. It could be my son. But the alternative for many boys is just as deadly. Drugs, alcohol, crime and suicide. My son was headed down that path. We adopted him at age 9 from foster care. He now has a purpose. Idiotic rules across the board are hurting and killing young men, not just in the military. They all matter.
Froogie, excellent post. Thank you. IMO, EVERY child born in the United States, upon reaching the age of 18yrs or upon graduating high school, should serve two years in some sort of government service, having first completed BASIC MILITARY TRAINING administered by the U.S. ARMY.
Thank You!! GrandSIL just re-enlisted for 3 years, father of an 18 mo and one on the way. Proud of your son and my gsil!!!
Tired of the mantra – don’t join the military or law enforcement. What then??!!
I have been a substitute teacher for past several weeks getting assignments in high schools, middle schools, elementary schools.
And I am appalled by woke curriculum dictated from Washington DC.
Third graders are reading beautifully illustrated books printed by McGraw hill about moslem life in Africa and history of abuse by European colonists.
American history books for high school filled with African American history and abusive stealing of land from indigenous peoples and ending with Obama years in 2015.
Literally no mention of great accomplishments by Americans
Social studies texts describing abuse by police against African Americans
Videos for middle school about the evils of the meat industry and the oil industry.
Don’t dare speak up in protest or I will lose my job and anyhow
teachers have no say over content of curriculum
I just present both sides of the issue. My job is to teach kids how to think not what to think. I teach science. We look at both sides of global warming. I play neutral. The administration hasn’t pushed back because there arent many who would replace me.
I often think the best way is to infiltrate our woke institutions, wait until we have a majority and then put things right. Doesnt seem like too many want to join us on the front lines but I will go down fighting for the kids.
You can thank obama and his bribery scheme to every state in the country to adopt the “common crap” curriculum or lose federal money for your state. I was on the front lines in my home state fighting against this pernicious, disastrous, foul indoctrination masquarading as education. This was the final nail in the coffin of public education in America by the progressive (read commies). Too many ignored the warnings by MANY moms across the country and now it is too late. Public education is lost. If you love your children, either home school them or send them to a private or charter school that teaches classical education. I am NOT overstating this point.
Is that Al Franken’s signature move?
They are getting to know each other with a doggy greeting.
Three SICK Freaks on their way to Hell.
Ewww!
That’s straight out of homo Barney Frank antics. Is that a Babylonian Global Homo sign?
The Democrat Foreign Policy in a nutshell … “if we’re nice to them, they’ll be nice to us”. Why? Because Islam is the “Religion of Peace”.
Actually the Foreign Policy, if you can call it that, of this stolen fraudulent administration is the personal objectives of the criminally corrupt kenyan. Pretty simple, do everything possible to benefit his besties in the muz brohood and their puppet terrorists while destroying the US and putting Americans at risk.
“Islam is peace.”
I have despised the democrat leftists all of my life as I have watched them do stuff that gets us killed, again and again. Shem Horne is right. Deliberate makes a lot more sense that stupid. If it was just stupid, someone in his family or on his staff would stop him.
As I kept thinking about this mess overnight, I realized that, in fact, if stupid policies and acctions were useful to them, both his family and staff would stand aside.
At this point, normal sequence(s) w/re to events, actions, or consequences should not and cannot be assumed.
These people are scum and our military will suffer for it.
Stolen elections have consequences!
The military started suffering under Obama.
At some point? I reached that point two and a half years ago.
The corpse of Biden is simply carrying on the foreign policy agenda of Obama: Making the world safe for The Muslim Brotherhood and all other Islamist terrorists
Terrorists live in the WH, the House of Representatives, the Senate, and wherever the hell it is that BO and Big Mike currently slither in and out of. Period.
yeah, any time I read “Biden this” or “Biden that”, I say “nonsense”
it’s the halfrican — running the show from Kalorama
I loved reading Shem when I was able to search through Twitter.
There must be hundreds of and hundreds of punishments for treason by the actions of the actors of this administration
https://www.europereloaded.com/assange-forget-russia-real-threat-america-comes-israel-israel-lobby/
Stupid post
did you drop your popcorn?
The real threat to America are Democrats, Cultural Marxists, and stupid people who enable treason.
Uh, any list thst dorsn’t have Republicant leadership right at the top, is illegitimate.
Without Republicant enabling, the Demoncrat party would have been a permanent minority party for many years.
Agree
As opposed to the Chinese lobbyists, I don’t understand the post nor what he’s speaking about.
I would say all lobbyists are bad, not just some “Jew”.
Looks like Ana Navarro.
Now, don’t be insulting this poor little puppy with that horrible comparison./s
Gaslighting
I dont believe Assange was gaslighting for criticizing Israel and doing so doesnt always have to be anti-semitic
Trump should’ve been much harsher on Netanyahu’s Israel back then. And should Netanyahu still be in office in 2025, he needs to be much harsher the next time around.
Perhaps he can start by reversing the embassy move and denouncing the Abraham Accords.
What if its all fake and gay?
Trust me, it isn’t.
Tell me you’re a millennial without using the word millennial.
I don’t have a problem if he is. I’m a millennial, too.
Neither of those would be helpful to anyone. Trump wants peace because it removes reasons for us to spend money on these useless foreign conflicts so it can be better spent on the US itself.
Peace? In the ME? That ain’t happening. We should just cut our losses, period.
I strongly disagree regarding reversing either.
Those moves were both part of a geopolitical strategy to change the dynamics in the ME, because it was in Americas best interest i.e. America FIRST.
That they happened to benefit Israel was secondary.
In addition, there is Israel, and then there is its administration, which can change just like the American admin can.
So theres Bibi, and then theres a bunch of traitors in his admin just like PDJT had in his,..recall PDJT’s staff blocked him meeting with Roherbacher about Assange, or considering a pardon for Snowden …its entirely possible Bibi had similar ‘Wormtongue’ advsors telling him to pull out of the hit on Solemeini.
I agree! Two of Israel’s IDF command officers monumentally FAILED in their jobs to protect their troops and to protect Israel. Traitors!!
“Those moves were both part of a geopolitical strategy to change the dynamics in the ME, because it was in Americas best interest i.e. America FIRST.”
It’s in America’s best interest to be either neutral or aligned with Iran. Aligning with Israel and the Gulf states is against our national interests, period.
Also, Netanyahu isn’t a good-intentioned populist with bad advisers. He’s one of them.
I don’t know about Iran but agree with the part about Netanyahu. When he said that Oct. 7 was “Israel’s 911” he was speaking the literal truth. 911 was an inside job. In similar fashion so was Oct. 7. ‘Ya think that might be why they want to wait until the dust settles to investigate? This is all sooo predict-a-buuuul.
When IDF soldiers are being told by their command officer in southern Israel’s northern border of Gaza, (Finkleman) that they must go into Gaza and remove Israeli grafitti (star of David, etc.) because that offends the Gazans, well I call that enemy action.
The other command officer is at the top of IDF Intelligence! Havlawi. Caroline Glick wants the two generals who failed the Israeli people before and during Oct. 7th to be fired. She verbally roasted them! They appear to be useless lefty aligned tools.
Were they the ones telling Netanyahu NOT to go with the forces to remove Solimani? Maybe. Enemy action.
I remember the same kind of enemy action from obummer.
Soleimani shouldn’t have been targeted at all. The operation itself was made possible by traitors who wanted to get us into a war with Iran and were willing to have their own countrymen killed in order to get it.
If Israel backed out of joining in on the operation, that was done to intentionally screw us over. It wasn’t about cowardice.
Oh yeah, that’s a great idea. Shoot yourself in the foot, or maybe a little higher. /s
How is that shooting ourselves in the foot?
Israel HAS BEEN for ISRAEL Since BEFORE 1948.
1944-1948 against the British Mandate
ie. //https://www.historynet.com/spitfire-vs-spitfire-aerial-combat-israels-war-independence///
USS LIBERTY Incident
Operation Plumbat
Pollard Spying
Vela Incident
Well, first off why would they be anything else, as to be anything else would be TREASON.
Actually, I do have serious doubts; just as the U.S. has high Government officials that are Globullusts, and so have NO National loyalty, and so does Canada, England, etc. why would we expect Israel to be immune to such infiltration?
Their policies regarding the Covid Vax are highly questionable, as is the behavior in the run-up to Oct. 7.
I have long felt that people romanticise alliances that are shotgun weddings, and its silly.
“I have long felt that people romanticize alliances that are shotgun weddings, and its silly.”
^^THIS^^
I always use President Washington’s guidance regarding foreign entanglements.
WWII Nazi Bosnian Muslims CFR Clinton Admin/NATO allies against our old friends & allies the Orthodox Christian Serbs. They even let Iran illegally ship in weapons
Assertion: Iranian general Qassem Soleimani was in Bosnia-Herzegovina during the War
https://sarajevotimes.com/assertion-iranian-general-qassem-soleimani-was-in-bosnia-herzegovina-during-the-war/
Agreed.
Bull.
Is that a fact check or something?
Assange is wrong. Nobody threatens us more than our own Deep State and the Saudi oligarchs who provide full faith and credit to its gravy train.
It was said during the time when the Deep State was blaming Russia Russia Russia for everything Trump
Shipbuilder here, Bath Iron Works.
We take our job seriously on delivering top quality work to the US Navy, as USS Carney was Bath built. The crew of USS Carney should be commended for their actions that day in answering that distress call as well as effectively neutralizing the threats as they were to merchant ships and those of the carrier task force.
Now for the obligatory slogan, Bath Built is Best Built.
Well … thank you for your workmanship. And definitely, let us thank the crew. But the situation here is certainly not over yet.
It is never over for our servicemembers, called to selfless duty in service to the nation.
Prayers that they all can in time, return to their families and live their best lives.
Amen.
I certainly hope General Dynamics is paying you with stock options as well as salary. Those kind of gains will go a long way in Maine.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GD/general-dynamics/market-value
But General Dynamics doesn’t sound quite as blue collar as Bath Iron Works. When a High School buddy came back from his first year in the Marines he handed everyone his business card which gave his name and the slogan … “Killing is my business, and business is good”
Fine. Lord Austin will just send in the Marines and we can lose yet one more war. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Ukraine and counting.
It’s not about losing, it’s about participating.
Its all about the benjamins, and there are Trillion$ at stake!
“Their” trillions…
No, OUR trillions.
Excuse me, but … “this is war,” and that means that you can’t sit there on the sidelines of all of these conflicts that you(!) were always so much a part of, and never expect that you might become directly involved.
Henry Kissinger is finally – thankfully – dead now. “So, guess what.” He can no longer tell you your next move.
And – as for your “impregnable” battle fleets – I have two words: hypersonic missiles. (Guess what: you don’t have any. Yet.)
Who are you speaking too?
Also do you really believe the Russians would be foolish enough to attack The US.
They’re not suicidal.
Putin knows the road that could possibly lead to.
Please explain your post better.
The Chinese claimed to have hypersonic missiles. I think even before Russia did. No word yet on Iran, but when they do, they will be shot at us.
And why shouldn’t they? Russia or China can have their brave and suicidal proxies “weaken” their geopolitical adversaries just as righteously as the USA does….for hate…for coin…for whatever…
To paraphrase.
Mutually Assured Suicide.
Methinks that we trust “nuclear weapons” far too much …
I’m baldly suggesting that yes, there are those who would attack the USA and make war with her – which has not really happened in eighty years. And, unless the world was simply enveloped in nuclear fallout clouds, it would indeed be serious war which we just might not win.
My fear is that the USA is now swaggering around the globe, cloaked in an illusion of invulnerability. Which is therefore extremely dangerous to all. We are not the “Arsenal of Democracy” that we arguably were, eighty years ago, and war itself is very different now. There is a “clear and present danger,” even to “us.” But we’re behaving like we can tell everyone else and don’t have to ourselves listen to anyone. That is, as I just said, very dangerous. “War is diplomacy by different means.”
The Number 9 reported some damage but no casualties . . .
Love Tap Number Nine.
Gulf of Tonkin 2.0 ?
Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm does bind the restless wave,
Who bids the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in peril on the sea.
Cease Fire NOW!!!
Have Israel haters infested this site?
Seems like it
Such language! “Infested”
FYI, there are an intersection of many different thought traditions.
People who are long term contributors have very diverse influences. Each new angle that hits the news often does separate us.
For instance, there are those who feel this action is just another in a long run of Wag the Dog manipulations. Blue and Gold flags just weren’t doing the job anymore, so out pops Hamas from their infestation of Gaza.
Well, a lot say nonsense things about Israel’s involvement in starting this. I’ve been fighting that since Oct 7.
Yet a whole lot of people hang on David’s local information, analysis and pro-Israel takes.
I hang on Caroline Glick’s “takes” for the situation in Israel. She is one wise cookie who speaks with authority on the issues. Caroline Glick show.com. On Youtube and JNSTV. David not so much.
Funny … I thought the sarcasm was blatantly obvious.
I don’t think people are following you so much that they pick up on your subtleties.
Yes
I agree that there are Israel haters here
STOP BLAMING DA JOOS
Who did 9/11–Muslims. Saudi Arabia.
Who ignored re 9/11 warning of Saudis in the US?–CIA and FBI
WHO let the Bin Laden family fly out of Florida after 9/11 while there was complete natioawie no fly policy-BUSH
Who was best friends with Prince “Bandar Bush”? GEORGE W BUSH
Bandar Bush’s wife gave money to and supported one of the the Saudi 9/11 terrorists.
WHO said there WMDs in Iraq? –GW BUSH
WHO started a war there?–G W BUSH
WHO started the war in Afghanistan?? GW BUSH
WHO continued the war in Afghanistan?–BUSH, Obama and Biden
WHO gave pallets of money to IRan in the dead of night? OBAMA
WHO made a deal with Iran re its nuclear programme? OBAMA
WHo employed Muslims, terrorists and terror supporters in his govt? OBAMA and BIDEN
Trump didnt go to war
Trump didnt employ Iran supporters and apologists
Venezuela; while there oil is crappy quality, they have BUNCHES of it,…but after a color revolution and Dominion installed Chavez , he nationalised oil industry, chased out the oil companies that were maintaining the infrastructure and hence production went way down.
The Mid East and Russia are major production areas with ME #1, and there have been a series of destabilising operations BY the U.S.
State/CIA/Military, for 20+ years…and then we have Ukraine with obvious U.S. goading it into happening and stating the goal was regime change in Russia,..and of coarse the 2020 steal when U.S. under PDJT was 6 mos from being oil dominant and producing more than SA and Russia combined.
AND they make no secret, JOE flat out SAID it while campaigning,..that his goal was to end carbon energy.
Its NOT about “saving Democracy” or “defending the Sovereignity of Kuwait or Ukraine,..
Its NOT about Israel or arab, Muslim or Jew,..
Its about the OIL, and it has been, all along.
If you’re directing that toward Israel, then CEASE calling for a cease fire! IMO, You are on the wrong side of that fence.
Prayers are ongoing for our Soldiers, Sailors, Marines who choose to defend all of us, with their lives. No actual named person, is representing these reported statements, is what I find very curious. It is “The Pentagon” “US Central Command” “unnamed US official”. Why.
The only place we need defending is our southern border.
“I wouldn’t go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers (or defense contractors or money launderers) . There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes (homeland, borders) and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.”
– General Smedley Butler, USMC. General Butler was one of the few Americans to be twice awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Where the real invasion never ceases.
Sooner or later Iran will provide the Houthis with their Silkworm missiles, 1200 pounds of high explosives and a very credible threat to any ship at sea. And SECDEF Austin hasn’t been part of winning a war yet so our sailors are on their own.
Iran also has Russian Oniks p800, a formidable supersonic ram jet powered anti ship missile. They have supplied Hezbollah with them. The Houthis must have them also. Russia has used them with devastating results in Ukraine. Eluding western missile defense systems and hitting their targets.
Like Ukraine this conflict is escalating in small increments. Forcing us to involve more and more hardware, troops, and money we don’t have.
Death by 1000 cuts.
The Carrier USS Eisenhower and group has sailed thru the Straights of Hormuz and now deep in the Persian gulf. For a show of farce. A big fat target in a small pond. Iran is just biding their time for revenge of the death of Suleimani.
This below happened 20 years ago. Iran is far more powerful now.
https://warontherocks.com/2015/11/millennium-challenge-the-real-story-of-a-corrupted-military-exercise-and-its-legacy/
Info on Oniks
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/71173
“For a show of farce. ”
You have a way with words,
God in Heaven, we ask that you please protect our brave military men and women in harm’s way. We ask this in the name of your beloved Son, Jesus Christ. Amen.
“Pentagon Admits”
Agree….those are the two key words.
Pentagon ADRIFT!!
…., while reindeer hang flying from the ceiling
and
its fantasy
story time
in the White House
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God, please help; Please?
✝️
Biden: Sick Little Blue boy in the WH blowing his horn. Trump is steadfast, and standing with a patriotic banana in his hand. Waiting, waiting, waiting to stuff it in that traitors horn! Let’s help him do it ASAP!
This is what passes as military leadership in bidens woke military. THEY ALREADY SUPPORT HAMAS, DIPSTICK!
SecDef Austin Warns of ‘Strategic Defeat’: If Israel Isn’t Careful, Palestinians Might Support Hamas
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/12/03/secdef-austin-warns-of-strategic-defeat-if-israel-isnt-careful-palestinians-might-support-hamas/
So the lesson is not that you can win in urban warfare by protecting civilians. The lesson is that you can only win in urban warfare by protecting civilians.
You see, in this kind of a fight, the center of gravity is the civilian population. And if you drive them into the arms of the enemy, you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat.
So I have repeatedly made clear to Israel’s leaders that protecting Palestinian civilians in Gaza is both a moral responsibility and a strategic imperative.
Unbelievable!
This time around, Arab nations are allegedly pressuring Israel to destroy Hamas – 12/3/23
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/12/this_time_around_arab_nations_are_allegedly_pressuring_israel_to_destroy_hamas.html
While the UN, UNRWA, and Secretary of State Antony Blinken seek to subvert Israel, the Arab states quietly encourage Israel’s evisceration of Hamas
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/12/winkin_blinken_and_nod.html
I had read this one earlier.
Consider it as them implicitly supporting a rout of a more malignant branch of the Muslim Brotherhood that had caused them all so much grief since the Arab Spring under the Lightbringer.
Yeah, me too. Allow the regional players to take responsibility for resolving regional issues, part of the Trump Doctrine.
A nice way of saying “Butt out, and let people deal with their own sh*t.”
We saw this same flawed thinking in afganistan, with suicidal Rules of engagement,…and obviously Austin is right, cause look at our glorioys victory there as a result of this “try to win the hearts and minds” of 7th century goat f*ckers,…oh and don’t say anything about their culture of their soldiers having boys to service them, either.
Austin, the creature from BORG.
USS Liberty.
I believe in the coming days and weeks we will see increased U.S. involvement in both the Israel- Hamas and Ukraine – Russia wars which will lead to a much wider conflict with more nations joining in.
No, the Ukraine-Russia conflict has run its coarse/course, lol…and there is no motive or interest for other nations to get involved in ramping it up, only in ramping it down (hungary, slovakia, etc.)
Russia-Ukraine op was NEVER in any risk of WW3, or going Nuclear, and there was -0- risk of Russia moving west beyond Ukraine.
That was all ‘chicken little’ talk, generating fear in order to manipulate.
And because it HAS run out of gas, the Israel/Hamas has both amasing timing and inexplicable security lapses which make it look, smell and taste like another ‘chiken little’ narrative, and so I don’t think U.S. should step in it.
We will see. Hope you are right. But I think the idiots in charge in DC are the dingy ones when it comes to making decisions. If it smells and tastes like a “chicken little” narrative, they will definitely step into it.
Show me the boat and I’ll show you the man. Yours is a little dingy, I see.
Something like 64 attacks have happened in recent months on the ground in Iraq and Syria, not to mention a few choppers going down, ya know those training exercises get you every time///.
Operation Inherent Resolve, the name for the continuation of the war against “IS” Islamic State. So what will they give as a new name for the “new war” or will it still remain as Inherent Resolve?
Operation Steal The 24 Election From Trump Again
Operation never back down for as long as it takes aka what you said, GNQ.
Congress basically gave authorization for the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, a resolution based on ‘events’, part of which were highly exaggerated and part of which never happened. 50,000 more Americans then went on to die pretty much for nothing, except to provide cover for politicians and a political secdef and political generals.
“There is nothing new under the sun”.
That’s what happened in Kosovo as well.
War crimes tribunal report shows Western
powers exaggerated Kosovo victims of ethnic
cleansing
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/08/koso-a22.pdf
Not “For nothing” ,….remember the dominos if we didn’t beat the conmunists in SE Asia, why they would end up in Hawaii and California,..and sumbitch they were RIGHT!
And no doubt the profits were phenominal!
58,000
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Iranian Arms To Bosnia-C-Span
https://www.c-span.org/video/?72346-1/iranian-arms-bosnia
Make sure you are always aware of your surroundings, and those in them.
Again … “A French National” … but ABC News pretended they didn’t know his name. So. They KNOW he’s a French National … but his name … well … that’s just “too sensitive” to mention.
I loathe the sad excuses we call our Press
We have no “mainstream media” only propagandists for multinational corporations.
Another Islamic National hero. Fixed it.
Why should we believe anything the Pentagon says? This statement makes me LESS likely to believe the Houthis are targeting our ships, not more likely.
The Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia would be a good thing since Saudi Arabia, along with Pakistan & the CIA was responsible for the slaughter of thousands of our fellow Americans on 9/11 and causing thousands more later to become sick and die and in some cases passing onto their offspring because a Trump hating unqualified political hack EPA chief rino Christy Whitman told the brave first responders and rescue volunteers they did not need any type of respiratory protection. Something that I knew as it was happening, and was horrified that the fake limousine liberal GOPe Whitman issued that edict. She has never shown a morsel of remorse and was shielded from liability by our “Justice System”.
That has always bothered me.
This was a Clinton CFR/NATO illegal operation to allow Iran to illegally ship weapons & trainers to Nazi Bosnian Muslim terrorists. Saudi Arabia send money & Jihadists from the CIA op Cyclone program
“According to him, in the Džaferović area of responsibility during the war in BiH (Bosnia) , the mujahideen committed monstrous crimes against Serbs.”
“– Hundreds of Serb prisoners heads have been cut off and these are the most massive ritual killings in the world – says Galijašević.”
Qassem Soleimani Shipped Weapons to Mujahideen in BiH (Bosnia)
https://thesrpskatimes.com/qassem-soleimani-shipped-weapons-to-mujahideen-in-bih/
A book I read also discussed that Iran was training and equipping moslem fighters in the Balkans
I didn’t pay enough attention in the 90s so was trying to educate myself a little
I can’t really recommend this book tho …. it’a a really really really dry read
Maybe someone can recommend a better one?
SOME CALL IT PEACE: WAITING FOR THE WAR IN THE BALKANS By Yossef Bodansky
I know this is old fashioned, and I readily admit an inferior knowledge of Middle East politics, strategy, weapons, religion, and culture. But couldn’t we just bring our ships home?
This didn’t happen when Trump was in charge, so it seems to me that the people now in charge must be causing it, for their own purposes.
We could certainty finally get out of Iraq.
Leaks shows Qatar secretly sent $15 million to Islamist movements in northern Mali
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/the-gulf/1701623547-qatar-secretly-sent-15-million-to-islamist-movements-in-northern-mali-report
“Former Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani (HBJ) called for dialogue with the Islamists in Mali at the time.
HBJ has long faced accusations of misconduct, ranging from bribing journalists to stoking antisemitism. In a 2017 Congressional hearing, the Qatari regime was accused of financing a wide range of Islamist terrorist organizations. Doha has also faced allegations that the tiny oil-rich Gulf nation seeks to use its enormous wealth to influence human rights organizations, the UN, and think tanks to issue glowing reports about Qatar. In November, i24NEWS reported that an alleged Qatari document revealed that Doha sent 3 million euros to Human Rights Watch. HRW denied that it received money from Qatar.
There is growing criticism in the United States, Germany, and Israel of Qatar’s alleged role as a state-sponsor of terrorism. On Thursday, US congressman Jack Bergman (R-Michigan) said on the House floor, “Qatar poses the gravest and most profound threat to the national security interests of the United States in the Middle East.” Bergman also slammed the Qatari-owned Al Jazeera network for enabling Hamas’ terrorism ideology.
Germany’s largest paper, Bild, headlined its October article regarding the visit of Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, the Emir of Qatar: “Scholz welcomes the top sponsor of terror.” Olaf Scholz is the German Chancellor. The Bild headline would have been largely unimaginable before October 7. MEMRI’s president and founder, Yigal Carmon, said “Qatar is Hamas and Hamas is Qatar.”
…Qatargate is an ongoing political scandal, involving allegations that European Parliament officials, lobbyists and their families have been influenced by the governments of Qatar, Morocco and Mauritania, engaging in corruption, money laundering, and organized crime…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_corruption_scandal_at_the_European_Parliament
Oh, and that is an awesome pic.
PDJT wrecking their WWIII reset by destroying the players in their plans.
cue Dick Cheney (you know, the father of Liz Cheney) sitting on a destroyer very much like the USS Cole that was attacked earlier in that October of 2000 . . . replay the ad, where he intones the words, “help is on the way” . . . so soberly and with much gravitas . . .
now here we are 23 years later . . . what DID you do, Dick Cheney . . . and what do you and George W. Bush have to say about the current state of affairs, putting our people in harm’s way out there . . .
don’t tell me that you think you should not opine on the current person doing the job as President . . . it was perfectly all right for Laura Bush to pen an Op-Ed directed at President Trump about the children at the border . . . you guys can’t hide, not really . . . oh, yes, you CAN hide and do the silent treatment but we KNOW you are hiding and doing the silent treatment, so just keep doing that.
… and they decimated our forces with garage-door openers
Ashley Wilkes!
Are we sure all four cruise missiles were aimed at “commercial” ships. Were any cruise missiles aimed at the USS Carney? If so why didn’t we retaliate and destroy the Houthi’s missile base? Just wondering because I don’t believe anything AP or our government reports initially!
As far as intercepted missiles and drones go, likely there were more than four with some of them targeting US Navy ships and others the commercial ships of friendly nations to Israel and The United States in the area.
When it comes to the corroborating details, the US Navy is going to be sparse with what is reported for reasons of operational security among other justifications.
Though, I am inclined to ask if the launch site itself had a counterstrike in response simply on principle.
Our new “Trans” military knows what it’s like to be bullied … and darn it! They don’t like it! You just mark my words! They’re gonna call someone! They’re gonna fight against this bullying on TikTok and all the internet platforms!
Geeezzz. What are they gonna do if they have to go to war and put up with people trying to shoot at them?
… or refusing to use their preferred pronouns ?
Lol……
I don’t buy anything coming out of the PentaJoeBamagon.
I guess the US Military can expect other nations to feed weapons to low-lifes too.
My own opinion – we have no business in Iraq and Syria. We have no business with a war fleet in place in the middle east.
President Trump was stabilizing the middle east and making Israel a party to peace alliances.
Biden has done everything to de-stabilize it and to isolate Israel. Our carriers, ships, Marine amphibious unit, and even a nuclear submarine with daily weapons deliveries to Israel is not stabilizing anything. In fact, it seems to be de-stabilizing things further. It is resented when we rush in and puff out our chest that we’re here to help Israel.
I’m thinking that is the purpose. Maybe you have noticed that EVERY SINGLE attack on US bases and ships says “Iranian-backed”. Iranian-backed Hezbollah, Iranian proxies Houthis, Iranian human rights abuses. It is setting my teeth on edge. They are preparing the American people for the US to send troops into Iran, carpet bomb another million people, and take over its resources for American companies, leave American bases all around it like we have done in Iraq and Syria.
Iran, the country with the 5th highest value resources in the world, higher even than China. If we can’t get rid of Vladimir Putin, destroy Russia economically and Balkanize it for our multinational corporations and banks to plunder, Iran would be a nice consolation prize for those multinational corporations and banks. Biden would justify it with “human rights” and “terrorists” and “attacks on our ships”, “attacks on our bases”. Or since Iran has a rather capable military sector, it may be an attack on Syria, to finally get rid of Assad and grab Syria’s resources that we aren’t currently stealing.
This isn’t about Israel. Biden/Obama never cared about Israel and they don’t now. It’s about what we can take, steal, manipulate, de-stabilize. The US at war would justify more surveillance, end habeas corpus, limit speech, justify surveillance of Americans, take over companies, spend more on military industries, increase illegal immigration (need for labor/soldiers), and perhaps even stop the election in 2024. It would throw in the dustbin our failed efforts in Ukraine.
Recall PDJT had to resist enormous pressure from the TV Generals, that eanted to go to ear with Iran, because they shot doen one ofvour unmanned drones that was at the end of its service life.
PDJT knew EXACTLY how to deal with them,…
“Why, oh Excellency do you send me a picture of my home?”
I chortle with glee every time President Trump tells that story. Love it.
I keep thinking about how they started Vietnam War –August 5, 1964
After North Vietnamese torpedo boats alledgedly attacked the U.S.S. Maddox and U.S.S. Turner Joy in the Gulf of Tonkin, President Johnson ordered the retaliatory bombing of military targets in North Vietnam. Congress soon passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which gave Johnson broad war-making powers.
Yes the War Powers resolution circumvents the Constitutions requirement that CONGRESS, NOT the President declare war.
“The authority of the presidents will then become a target for every possible form of attack, but we shall provide him with a means of self-defense, in the right of an appeal to the people, for the decision of the people over the heads of their representatives…
Independently of this we shall invest the president with the right of declaring a state of war.” Protocol10
“Prayers for protection over our Navy.”
Prayers that our Navy and the rest of our military men are brought home and deployed along the Southern border to stop the invasion of our home.
We are watching the complete collapse of the Biden policy towards Iran. Iran is flexing its muscle by attacking US troops in Iraq and Syria, prodding Hezbollah to strike Israel, prodding Houthis to attack the US fleet, and instigating the Hamas attack on Israel. Meanwhile, Biden has been sitting on his hands hoping beyond hope that Iran will complete talks on restarting the Iran nuclear deal. The nuclear deal is all about grift, the only real motivator for our grifter in chief.
Barky and Valjar should phone their buddies in Iran and ask them to back off
“Hey! We sent you pallets of cash and greased the skids for your continued uranium enrichment! What gives?”
There’s a lot more going on than what we’re being told. Thank you for providing better information than the MSM.
Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis. All part of the same Muslim Brotherhood soup. And all need to be destroyed. Period.
When will we properly address the source of the problem?
Not until we are willing to find and face the root cause.
Our military needs to be on our borders and in control of the ports.
Eff the rest of the world.
lets fix America first.
Bring our boys home, alive.
Arab Muslims are sea-going, war-mongering, pirates terrorizing American shipping?
What kind of historical evidence is there for that?!
A foregone conclusion. Who sends missiles over battle ships? Can’t say it hasn’t been expected considering Biden is a shrimp swimming in a bowl of crabs.
And we gave them the intelligence and money to do so
If the administration was smart (which we all know they aren’t), they’d declare that these are acts of piracy. That would give them the moral authority to press a counterattack without it being tied to the IDF-Hamas conflict. Biden needs to call MBS to make sure he’s onboard and then send in some strike aircraft to blast the Houthi bases and drive them from the coast.
WAR
IS
HELL !
Civilians are part of the
equation.
Under attack on theRed Sea. Why no response?
https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-warship-shoots-down-three-houthi-drones-targeting-commercial-vessels-red-sea-centcom