At dinner last night, I was questioned about Twitter and the recent remarks of Elon Musk. My opinion is somewhat out of variance with the mainstream considerations.
I believe the demise of Twitter was essentially determined long ago. Musk stepped into a scenario that was tenuous at best, and the government control of the platform was always the fulcrum issue. Musk’s prior intent with the platform may be up for debate; however, against his recent remarks, I would argue Musk is presenting the potential collapse of the platform as a martyr scenario.
Musk said recently the platform may collapse without advertisers, but he will not acquiesce to corporate blackmail. Sounds great, but keep in mind that Musk has known about the fulfillment of the DOJ search warrant for user data since January of this year; we only recently discovered it. Put that background reality into the overlay of your opinion, given the year of comments about users shared by Musk, and the known lack of platform privacy.
Musk knew as an outcome of the platform fulfillment of the court order, the release of all user metadata who supported, followed, liked, or shared the tweets of Donald Trump, that the government created the “his kind” list earlier this year. Yet, he never discussed the issue of compromised privacy throughout his commentary; he did exactly the opposite while assuring people the platform would protect users. [Ex. How did the encrypted DM promise work out?]
Now Musk positions himself as the martyr, the victim of leftist targeting…. and his hired CEO Linda Yaccarino is doing the same thing [SEE HERE]. What better way to guide the platform into a controlled collapse than to be a martyred hero as the Twitter platform potentially disappears. Just think about it.
Simultaneously, all prior DOJ/FBI/IC datamining and intelligence gathering operations against conservative or liberty-minded Americans becomes legal when contrast against the fulfilled subpoena. That’s the same DOJ/FBI/IC motive behind the Carter Page FISA application. All prior surveillance legalized ex-post-facto, history rhymes.
VIA CBS – Walmart said Friday that it is scaling back its advertising on X, the social media company formerly known as Twitter, because “we’ve found some other platforms better for reaching our customers.”
Walmart’s decision has been in the works for a while, according to a person familiar with the move. Yet it comes as X faces an advertiser exodus following billionaire owner Elon Musk’s support for an antisemitic post on the platform.
The retailer spends about $2.7 billion on advertising each year, according to MarketingDive. In an email to CBS MoneyWatch, X’s head of operations, Joe Benarroch, said Walmart still has a large presence on X. He added that the company stopped advertising on X in October, “so this is not a recent pausing.”
“Walmart has a wonderful community of more than a million people on X, and with a half a billion people on X, every year the platform experiences 15 billion impressions about the holidays alone with more than 50% of X users doing most or all of their shopping online,” Benarroch said.
Musk struck a defiant pose earlier this week at the New York Times’ Dealbook Summit, where he cursed out advertisers that had distanced themselves from X, telling them to “go f— yourself.” He also complained that companies are trying to “blackmail me with advertising” by cutting off their spending with the platform, and cautioned that the loss of big advertisers could “kill” X. (read more)
Twitter has $12.5 billion in debt from the initial investor purchase of the platform. The debt service costs around $1 billion per year ($100 million/mo). There was never a viable path to profitability and/or platform solvency; the operating costs when combined with the debt service are just too high.
Now, think carefully…. In late September, Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino made a bold statement. Yaccarino stated that from her review of the current status, Twitter would start to turn a profit in the first quarter of 2024 {link}. However, with $100 million per month in debt service alone, this statement seemed too far of a stretch. At pre-Musk levels of revenue, maybe; but that $1.5 billion debt service is a heavy nut to carry.
Timing – Remember, in early October the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) gave special regulatory approval to Bill Ackman’s firm, Pershing Square (hedge fund), for a new investment vessel called SPARC, whose purpose is to invest in private companies in order to take them public. As noted by CNBC, “In a SPARC, investors will know what company the financing vehicle would be used to merge with before they have to pledge their investments.” The financial mechanism avoids some of the issues with typical IPOs.
•It was October 2023, inflection time. •Yaccarino says a strategy is underway for profitability in Q1 2024. •Ackman gets SPARC approval. If you ask me what was going on, I’d say they were positioning a mechanism to get the debt removed and the investors repaid – sell the debt via Ackman.
Once the new advertising boycott began, the Ackman story disappeared completely. The debt holders are naked with a platform that is worth less than the original investment.
Was this just naive stupid thinking? Was the current scenario the result of failed foresight…. or, was this a guided and controlled outcome? If you ask me, I’d say the latter.
Who wins? The surveillance state…
….while everyone proclaims Elon Musk a hero for trying.
Brilliant!
Welcome to the 2024 election season.
I know almost nothing about the financial mechanics of a site like Twitter but what I thought Sundance was saying is the cost of hosting all the data input by all the users is what is costing so much – apparently AWS is a big recipient of hosting X? So if that is the case then why wouldn’t Musk start his own AWS? Wouldn’t this save him money and create a profitable situation by selling space?
As I said – this is just a thought because I don’t understand how all this works.
Musk’s Twitter is locked in to contracts for AWS hosting Twitter.
That could possibly be remedied in a Chapter 11.
You can’t chapter out of ‘new’ future monthly service fees that you don’t have enough revenue to cover.
Both AWS and Google contracts but in a bankruptcy all things can be renegotiated.
Scarlet this has been explained in detail numerous times by Sundance – read the article (s) he’s put it out multiple times for over a year including recently .
Magic Coffee shop
I could point out I have been saying for 2 years that Musk and DeSantis are both Cultural MAGA crisis actors using the MAGA networks, memes and ecosystem as a feeding zone
Musk was like Ray Epps encouraging MAGA networks of influencers back onto Twitter (into the opened gates of the Capital building) and on the other side the Patriot Act agencies have been hoovering up ALL that data as usual to use in their new AI MAGA cide
I would also note that the VERY NEXT DAY after Musk tells advertisers to f$Ck themselves he then launched the CyberTruck in Hawaii, weird stuff happening in Hawaii lately. Musk absolutely used the viral sensation of giving the finger to the establishment to slip stream the launch of his CyberTruck.
Musk used Trumps earned media strategy of dropping MAGA meme truth bombs and then monetizes the clicks to sell his truck
Also, its not a risk to tell the establishment to eff themselves, thats so street, punk, base, whatever. Over half the country now hates the establishment with a passion, he has joined the majority
In China he tells the CCP they are awesome. In the USA he tells the establishment to eff themselves, while delivering them more data on MAGA than anyone else in the surveillance capitalism space
Who buys Trucks? Republicans
Elon Musks next campaign, will be to sell the MAGA patriot base to the UniParty who will convert Trump Economic MAGA into Ron Cultural MAGA.
https://www.culturalmaga.com/p/136-fake-victories-of-florida-and-twitter
I don’t think Musk needs the money from clicks to finance anything. That is chump change.
how many clicks/views did the “go f5ck yourself” earn?
how many of those clicks/views then where channeled into CyberTruck promos?
how many of those CyberTruck promos resulted in deposits for CyberTruck?
totally not a coincidence
editorial is 10x more valuable than advertisers, he makes an end run around advertising and buys Twitter and uses that to make himself and Tesla the biggest brand on the planet and from that position launches CyberTruck, X, take your pick
OK, how many? – please tell.
only the Patriot Act agencies and the really big platforms would have anything close to hard numbers
presumably Twitter/X/Tesla/Musk also are monitoring
no way for me to know
but when something goes “viral” is big numbers and very rarely does viral mean organic any more
“Who buys Trucks? Republicans”
The pricey CyberTruck is not really a vehicle to compete with classic pickup trucks.
Long on SciFi toy features and style, short on pickup truck utility. Wait until the truth about towing range comes out – and that range goes down with high/low temperatures, battery age, and duty cycles. When it needs a charge after less than 100 miles towing: An hour at the charge station – if you can find one that works. (If others are in line – hours.)
And that ridiculous single long floppy noodle wiper blade – wait until those have seen a few months service, they will be comically flopping around and chattering on the ridiculously long windshields.
Speaking of glass – zero rearward visibility, between 3:30 and 8:30 o’clock on the azimuth dial. Cameras are a very poor substitute. (And essentially worthless when wet/dirty, a common occurrence on a vehicle exterior.)
Back to topic: Musk is playing a lot of Very Big Games that appear to serve ulterior goals of veiled powers working to push the US Bloc down to a weakened totalitarian vassal state. X is one, as becoming increasingly clear. EVs are another.
So what does that make Musk? (You connect the dots.)
Clicks? I mean, yeah musk is savvy and knows bad news is still good news bc it means you’re relevant. And maybe he tried to run off the coattails of the eff off to the media but dude he’s in the news everyday and I didn’t hear anything remarkable about the truck.
Every event is not necessarily a mad scientists conspiracy. Most of the time crap just happens bc of not knowing for certain how things will unfold.
so Musk is just stumbling around and its just an amazing coincidence
for a start Musk is a team, its like saying Steve Jobs or Bill Gates of the Queen or the President, there is a huge team behind the individual, include a few large corporations
nothing these people do is coincidence or random
everything is gamed out, mapped out, planned, strategized, campaigned
Musk brought MAGA patriots back onto the platform so the X/Twitter platform has more data to sell out the back door to the PAtriot Act agencies AND the Woke Corporations he tells to eff themselves
as Sundance says, Musk knew the Jack Smith subpoena, yet he encouraged all those same people to come back on the platform
if he was such a do gooder and patriot he would of said, stay the eff away
Musk is Ray Epps, Twitter is the Capital building, and soon the Twitter MAGA networks will experience their own J6 extended universe purge, just in time for 2024 elections
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Can you imagine america without patriots, free thinking patriots? This world is about to get a very large wake up call – when normies figure out they have to eat horse to survive, it will be too late.
This is all gubmint operation. Elon gets money.
AWS took 30 years to build
AWS computing by Amazon was the only profitable division of Amazon. It was the Government contracts for AWS that put Amazon into profit!
Cash for clunkers. Sleepy Joe knows how to screw the debt holders just like he and Barry did when they took over GM.
Twitter / X has been a funnel for surveillance since at least 2016. After the election steal of 2020. I would always say ‘Fair Warning: Use Twitter at your own risk’ Hate to say it, but…Now all those innocent Trump voters on TWTR to be hounded, or worse. They want 10’s of thousands of IRS ‘agents’ who will be armed.
Glad I stopped using Twitter and Facebook years ago.
Kudos to all who never signed up for Facebook or Twitter.
I’m sure there’s a special list for those people, too.
Just for people who never joined.
X users are pawns, you are rook at CTH. SD hides you well, but your ISP sells you out. Do not think your are safe, you are here. So am I. We are fckeud together. Ditch your smugness.
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Good people on FB, CTH, X are in it together—so stick together. Sorry, they know you here, there and every where.
Urah, never twatted, faceplanted, etc. Just never saw the point.
But, obviously on here, so on their list.
And I KNOW it…
The one they have to worry about, either has NO internet presence at all, or minimal and only visits Mother Jones, Politico, etc.
He/she is INVISIBLE to THEM, a ghost.
They will never see them coming, or be able to track them after….
shhhhh,….
VPN’s work
As twitter was never economical or practical, without massive support from the Gummint, it was ALWAYS a front for the I/C to hoover up data.
Life will be immensely better without “Twitter”. We all need to get off the instant, short communication jag.
Cannot stand another article that just strings repeats of disjointed “twitters” together, and calls itself journalism.
how could it be.
having everyone mapped and their data legally paw’d through after the bankrupt sell or whatever… how is that better.
the data should have been contained, lawsuits made, and all of it deleted.
AI is a punk without STORED DATA. a complete punk.
end the storage. stop the selling… never worry about AI ever
where its stored. emp pulse. gone.
On NSA servers bunkered underground I would venture to say. So probably safe from EMP and nukes.
small, placed by drones small packages of thermite on the roof.
Less sophisticated than an emp, but perhaps just as effective?
Can’t say how, but I doubt the Deep Statse/IC will allow this platform to disappear.
Just like Total Information Awareness (TIA) went back onto the DoD shelf when even the people working the project objected to something designed to vacuum up “all the peasants voluntarily telling us all about themselves.” So it went away. Right. Amazingly then something takes it place. Thus Facebook.
Musk has changed that. There are now long posts, which is why it is no longer called Twitter or tweets. He’s made many changes. Musk is arguably the only one out there who is championing free speech. It is the only one not censoring conservatives and everyone here wants to trash it. Mind boggling.
If twatter, or “X” goes away, a huge hole is left, and it WILL be filled.
The Gummint NEEDS that data, and tool for attempting to manipulate opinion, or the appearance of public opinion.
So they WILL replace it, to somehow fill that need.
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“Walmart’s decision has been in the works for a while, according to a person familiar with the move. Yet it comes as X faces an advertiser exodus following billionaire owner Elon Musk’s support for an antisemitic post on the platform.”
I didn’t think anything he posted was “antisemitic”. It seems more like pretext; like they were waiting to seize on something he said for a reason. Is Linda Yaccarino going to be the fall-girl?
I don’t trust Elon’s posturing. My larger questions, though, are what is/was up with the name change to “X” and plans to build an “everything platform”. Did Musk overestimate his bargaining power? In the referenced FU interview, I saw a guy who seemed disturbed and angry or depressed, not a person in control of a plan. Apparently few here agreed with me. Same with my feelings from the inception that he was “marketing” not standing on any great principle.
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if this was the surveillance governments tool – then he stepped into their arena on their foot for a reason.
and not to win ultimately
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Okay… maybe I’m having a dense day but… what was the strategy, then? IC already had a great surveillance and propaganda tool. Media was all-in with their bullhorns, writing most of their crap off of twitter. Why would the government want to kill that.
Why would Musk buy this unless it was in cahoots, and (forget his free speech etc. posturing) to use with yet more government subsidies to launch the “everything” platform.
I’m feeling confused. Aside from corporations pulling advertising (which doesn’t bode well for a future amazon-type competitor for buying stuff)… what other players are in here exerting power? The BlackRock et al. owners of these advertisers? Amazon? Open AI and Microslop?
Sundance has the story right as far as it goes but I’m feeling like there’s a lot more going on here and frustrated that it’s not coming to me.
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The answer is in your second paragraph.
Moreover, because of that he is a DS/IC asset and has been for years.
he has a company needing the government to do something for him….
owning the TOY is leverage over the decision.
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then he will have a kaleidoscope of companies serving a Country need if he had to create one.
plus controlled demolition while erasing the syp tool narrative of twitter and turning it into a failed tweet company due to having HIGH MORALS.
its public relations – Toxic sludge is ___ for you?
There was so much de-platforming og conservatives and even the President of the USA…. that is when Musk went in. To maintain a public square that was open for dialog. There is no crime in using an advertiser format, almost all internet platforms everywhere do.
X was the name of Musk’s first company, X.com, which eventually became PayPal.
It would not surprise me if Yaccarino orchestrated the expedited downfall, and that was her mission all along. She is not to be trusted.
W O W !
Long ago, Twitter was a means of connecting business/commercial interests together. When it devolved into a social swamp, it was destined to fail. Luckily, I avoided this quagmire. So IDGAF!
Musk seemed unstable, reiterating his key phrase, he doesn’t do well lying.
Elon Musk’s support for an antisemitic post
To be clear, Walmart and the rest of the corporations are not removing ads because of antisemitism. They could not care less about antisemitism or racism or homophobia or trannyphobia any other ism or phobia. This is just another attack on free speech. They see an opportunity to restrict yet another of our rights by pretending to have a higher moral purpose. They are frauds and liars. Once it is accepted that antisemitic speech can be outlawed or even prosecuted it won’t be long until any other speech they don’t like is illegal.
Just like the other post where Republicans are more than happy to do away with due process, Republicans like Meatball are proud to tell us how they are making “antisemitism” illegal. Its the Uniparty working together to restrict our rights while imbeciles cheer “Yay team!” There is no such thing as hate speech. There is no right to restrict any speech simply because you do not like what was said. People need to stand up and start defending the right to free speech even if you hate the words or the person saying them.
walmart is pulling the plug because they were told to. Most of these large corporations are run by the feds. Look at what’s been going on at ATT for so many years. ATT is completely beholden to the feds in every way. Its paying customers are close to irrelevant.
Walmart has completely destroyed most small/medium retailers, especially in rural areas. You have one choice: walmart (or fedmart as it should be called).
I agree and all the other companies were pressured to leave twitter by theWhite House just like they did with censorship.
I think you may have hit on something. I was discussing this with a family member since I have never seen an ad on Twitter from any of these big corporate advertisers. The family member was part of a non-profit theater group and would place ads on Twitter and Facebook. They would get lots of responses/hits on FB, but never on Twitter. I began to think that the corporate “donors” were part of the financial backing to run Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop since they certainly weren’t getting billions of dollars of results on their advertising efforts on Twitter. So suddenly they all cancel advertising on X and my initial thought was that they didn’t want to continue supporting more and more “free speech” as it were. Now it does seem like perhaps Big Brother has all the information they want and need and has decided to issue the death sentence.
Nailed it.
Politicians, presidents, prime ministers and so forth, are the Kings and Queens in the chess game.
Perhaps we are getting a glimpse of the players. Plan accordingly.
So you believe that Walmart, the most popular retailer among the blue collar middle class as well as the lower economic classes, is willing to alienate the majority of their customers by publicly flipping the proverbial middle finger to the First Amendment, something that the overwhelming majority of Walmart’s customers deem very important even sacred?
It’s a suicidal move, sure to harm their business, but maybe their management wants just that.
I guess I’m in the minority here because I don’t yet see the benefit to the company.
What has been the benefit to Target or Disney or Bud Light by going woke? They don’t seem to care at all about customers or revenue for that matter. I don’t know that there is a benefit to the company other than maybe they’ve been promised a significant role in the coming Fascist/Communist One World Government.
“the First Amendment, something that the overwhelming majority of Walmart’s customers deem very important even sacred.” Do they though? Do you really believe that most Walmart customers would disagree with the statement, people shouldn’t be allowed to say something that hurts another person’s feelings? I’ve shopped at Walmart and I would agree with your statement. Obviously you would too. But the “overwhelming majority”? I have my doubts. I don’t think people understand our Rights very well at all anymore.
I base that conjecture on the guess that most people don’t like to be told to shut up about a subject that intrigues or worries them.
They may not know much about the Constitution or Bill of Rights (I think more do than you realize) but they sure as heck know when they’re being bullied.
The thing is that the majority of dumb idiots who buy from Walmart dont know this
They’d understand it real quick if they were being silenced by the Right.
That is a mean thing to say Charlotte about people who have to shop for sustenance.
The company is run by woke Ivy Leaguer’s now.
Sam Walton is long gone. The founders of big companies get rich, they send their kids to the “finest” schools where they get indoctrinated, kids come home and run the companies like the liberals that they became. They’re either virtue-signaling to their elite peers and/or they truly buy into the agenda and don’t give a flip about the unwashed masses who shop at their stores. And where else is Joe Blue-collar going to shop? Did people abandon Walmart when they pulled My Pillow or sold some objectionable book? No.
They didn’t abandon Walmart after My Pillow line was jettisoned because it’s still the easiest, low cost, one-stop shop for most family consumable items plus clothing and other household goods.
A significant number of Walmart shoppers may not be social media users but another significant number are. It’s why we’ve seen so many videos from inside Walmart stores posted on Twitter by various users. IDK the statistics but still think that Walmart will largely get negative reactions from their abandonment of the platform.
Walmart isn’t necessarily popular. They are often, especially in rural areas, the ONLY place to shop.
Walmart is well known for going into a small community and destroying small businesses.
Yes, historically that was true. I did a large research paper on Walmart for my MBA in 2006. Sam Walton originally had a good idea to bring a larger variety of goods to rural / middle American towns, but it was bastardized by his successors who went all-in for imported Chinese products. Walmart alone could have kept some American manufacturers in business, but they chose not to.
If I remember correctly, Walmarts operating profit margin was 4%. What American business can function on 4%? Usually one needs to keystone (doubling) cost to survive. Walmart drove everyone else to China for cheap labour and cheap cost of materials, they changed the face of manufacturing in USA.
A 4% OPM means they’re running basically a self-funding operation if that 4% is after all taxes, costs, expenses. Not much to build upon nor handle inflation of costs.
Walmart has shareholders that they are beholden to, ie Blackrock, state street, et al.
Agree. Once you outlaw antisemetic speech, then you can outlaw “islamaphobic speech” and “rascist speech” and then “anti-vax” and “anti-democracy” and “anti-government”,..and where does it end?
Only social media I use is Life Log.
LOL!
So there will just be a New Twitter that will be completely controlled by an increasingly authoritarian federal government. Where if you post Wrong Think the Gestapo will be paying you a visit. Time to abandon ship.
Yes. You’re a few years late, but get off now. You won’t miss it.
His acting is pathetic.
Free speech absolutist, my ass. With all the govt subsidies and contracts plus the debt load, Musk did the classic bait and switch. Screwed over “we the people”…MFer
Elon Musk owns a human microchipping company. It’s weird how that fact is always ignored by the “Elon is a hero” crowd. No, the man is deliberately being boosted into a Steve Jobs-like tech tycoon salesman role in order to sell the next generation of surveillance tech that DARPA wants released to the public. The social media drama and the upcoming Hollywood movie about Elon Musk are simply commercials to boost his influence.
Elon Musk for Anti-christ 2024. Vote now!!!!
True.
So Musk was 100% correct … as it is apparent to me that most every major corporation will NEVER support Free Speech. That’s all I need to know. My boycott list is growing large. No matter, I am religiously consistent with my boycotts. Walmart will never see another dime of my money.
And if X dies … will any other platform emerge which is dedicated to Free Speech? Would any of these corporations support another Free Speech platform? Nope. So, I’m done. I’ll just wait for “Small Business Saturday” … yeah … every Saturday
This platform supports free speech.
I knew someone would write that. That’s great, but CTH is not big enough to make a dent in society at large. It just isn’t. There are many small sites like CTH, but no throw weight.
Really? Seems to be getting a lot of attention with a lot of folks that are important.
Enough influence they tried to shut him down in 2020 after the election until he went proprietary.
You don’t have to be large to be influential.
So true
Most major corporations will support the State as they did in 1930’s to mid 1940’s Germany.
It’s called Corporatism, aka Fascism.
Telegram. So far.
Truth Social
So burn down Twitter/X before MAGA has the ability to use it during the 2024 campaign season to counter manipulated media stories. No more Community Notes, etc.
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No more Tucker Carlson episodes.
Thank you. Finally someone gets it right.
I’m not sure about “The surveillance state wins.”
Twitter goes belly up and the feds loose free snooping and suppression of information flow. The Right goes to GAB or somewhere else like Truth Social or where ever (that works fine, as is) where the information is flowing. The Left is left in the cold to troll somewhere else and pimp their ActBlue and outright lies. The Left (think RDS people) are just combative morons anyway. The dim wits that still use Farcebook will continue. I’ve been on Twitter since 2010, and aside from rapidly sharing day trading symbols back then, Twitter has remained pretty much low utility for information. Their “content” always appears somewhere else.
The people that loose are those that merely do digital pimping for followers. It’s a weird activity that doesn’t really make sense to me. There’s a whole generational personality disorder built on digital likes and follows. Those people loose. But, cry me a river.
The Left already moved over to Bluesky after “Nazi Elon” took over Twitter.
Interesting take and I think you are right. Losing the easy surveillance of all of us in one place is a big loss for Big Gov. I haven’t been on Twitter for years but I’m a lot more informed now than I was then when I was wasting my time arguing with blue-haired lunatics all day. There are a lot of alternative sites from which to get “news” now.
The value of all the data compiled through the years on Twitter, and all theposts from every corner of the spectrum through the years, means that Elon has an invaluable treasure trove of data that almost noone else could assemble.
Add to that, the billions of ‘miles traveled’ in data that his Tesla has added to his database.
Oh, and he has aided the western world with his molbile sattelite business.
AND he is the only one putting up mostly successful rockets up into satellite for the wests benefit.
So tell me what a bad person he is after benifiting western society in these ways?
I agree And I think Elon has the goods on many lefties who used Magic Jacks platform before Elon bought it
So essentially we are all Carter Pages ? Apologies to Kirk Douglas and Spartacus
Whitney Webb was on Redacted yesterday talking about similar Ai and WEF plans for all of us in the near future. Scary stuff.
“I believe the demise of Twitter was essentially determined long ago.”
Everything is determined, the end as well as the beginning, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect as well as for the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible player.- Albert Einstein
Musk, the younger oligarch, delegated by the older and more anonymous oligarchs to pretend to take a hit for the team. Musk is highly intelligent, no doubt. He had Tucker Carlson eating from his hand. Musk and the globalist cadre are wired by spiritual lines to a kind of malevolence that conceals itself in pretended innocence like X, tik-tok, twitchy, instagram, redditt, et effin cetera. “I gotta brand new chimney built on top made outta human skull \ So come on baby take a walk with me and tell me…Who do you love?” Yeah. The wolf is sho’ly howlin’ tonight…
BTW: what lies did they tell to Sam Walton’s widow that allowed what Sam promised to be buried in an Arkansas swamp?
Everyone who has ever done anything right could have his motives questioned.
I, for one, care little about his motives. He is about as close to a heroic figure as we are going to get in this country these days.
Maybe someone would prefer to thank some beclownded with medals popinjay General for his service.
walmart sells chinese junk. dont buy walmart
Yeah, I was wondering how Musk’s “F you” to those that pay the bills was going to work out. And it seems it’s working out exactly as planned!
I’ll say it again: Musk is in it for Musk, and all his BS about free speech is just “kool aid” to make the BS go down a little easier!
I am not so sure he is seeking martyrdom. He is standing on principle. In many ways it is very philosophical and theological: God des not force His will on us. We have free will. Musk is saying in an alternate way, plantet earth will decide. Meaning the people will obviously. Now this could all be a ruse. I have been a skeptic of Musk. But he is coming to the light of late it seems. His decisions and statements are often wise, prudent. You may not like his vernacular. But he does not appear to be a liar. But here is the caveat: He is a very complex man.
” He is standing on principle. “
Agreed.
But some people are so jaded they just can’t believe that is true.
https://freebeacon.com/culture/elon-is-right-about-the-jews/
A lot of Jews seem to be like the Tender Hearted Woman who took in the Snake.
“I saved you,” cried that woman
“And you’ve bitten me, even why?
And you know your bite is poisonous and now I’m gonna die”
“Oh, shut up, silly woman,” said that reptile with a grin
“Now you knew darn well I was a snake before you brought me in”
Wouldn’t you agree that people have every right to be jaded at this point? How many times have they been stabbed in the back by people who they thought were on their side or at least on the side of truth? We can enjoy and support the good things that Musk does while still keeping an eye open and being concerned about his motivations. I don’t really trust anyone who is not in my family or close circle of friends. But people whose actions have consistently been on the side of good start to earn that trust like President Trump. Maybe Musk is one of us but you can hardly blame people for being skeptical of a guy who gets most of his money from the federal government.
Being skeptical is one thing. Hating on him is quite another.
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Sundance, I believe everything in your article to be spot on. So in your opinion why would the Deepstate/Intel Agencies allow the demise over their control of one of the biggest social media sites?
2024 election
Its ALL about the 2024 election,…and the aftermath.
A # of individuals have been positioned expressly for this time.
RDS, who had a totally fake image projected over4 years, building him up as “Americas Gov. of the free State of Florida.
Tucker Carlson, who has the credibility that Fox news lost…who has purchased that credibility by speaking truth, ..
Elon Musk,…who also jumped into the speaker of truths market.
And RFK JR, who likewise jumped in on the Vax, but has since faltered.
Is this all coordinated?
Makes sense.
Scorched earth policy.
DS realizes X is no longer influential in controlling Conservative thought so it’s best to remove a platform where Conservatives could influence Left and Independent minds.
I just joined the X paid platform to support free speech
Evil country.
When does a bird sing?!
Walmart spends $2.7 billion on advertising but took quarterly bonuses away from hourly employees that are not management. That was so nice of the Walton family. The daughter can spend millions on Renaissance artwork and one of the sons bought the Denver Broncos but it is a fiscal burden to continue to pay these bonuses. Enjoy it now.
What did Musk gain from this whole situation? Did he think he could make X profitable and miscalculated? Or was he in it to manage the decline? Why would the Deep state let Twitter be sold in the first place? It was their baby. Surely they could’ve prevented it. Hero status at the cost of billions of dollars? I don’t know; I usually follow these things well, but I’m just missing something with the whole situation. Something’s just not clicking for me.
Maybe Sundance can license his tech to Elon.
Look, if an obviously sick, corrupted family like the Biden’s (Obama) can render the IC and DOJ incapable of managing even the patina of a color-blind justice system, then the ATT sourced Hemisphere database has already successfully leveraged- through threats and blackmail- the entire legal apparatus. They have proven that nothing is beneath the fascists running the DC swamp. But this is when the scab is coming off and it may not be nice at all to the fascists.
Linking the Trump commenters in the Twitter-X universe, to that Hemisphere phone database is the single greatest long-term diabolical initiative by government money, heck it was started in 2009. It appears they successfully created a permanent enemies list that intimidates the “good guys” into not doing their job.
Agreed, destroying the military, fiscal, mental and physical health of America with China’s Covid and Pharma’s Mrna was a shorter term play. It was almost ad hoc tactical move triggered by Trump’s capability. Team Obama from the 1st paragraph simply wanted to win more than the fake conservatives in the Republican Party….Oh yes and Ufck those Republicans. They are worse than the Dems and commies, because the Republicans lied straight to our faces….Dems told us what they would do.
“Yet, he never discussed the issue of compromised privacy throughout his commentary”
It’s my understanding that the warrant was accompanied by a non disclosure order. How could Musk discuss the order?
He was under court order not to disclose the fact that there was an order.
“Also at issue was a nondisclosure order secured by Mr. Smith that kept the warrant from Mr. Trump’s awareness until after it was executed. Such orders are usually issued when judges and prosecutors fear that a criminal suspect will alter or destroy evidence before it can be secured by the government.”
https://archive.is/bPvHx#selection-365.0-365.301
Non disclosure order
https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/sites/dcd/files/23sc31%20Attachment%20B-%20Documents%20unsealed%20without%20redactions.pdf
The search was so secret that Twitter was initially barred from telling Trump the search warrant had been obtained for his account, and the company, now known as “X,” was fined $350,000 because it delayed producing the records sought under the search warrant.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/special-counsel-trump-twitter-search-warrant/index.html
For me it was never about money, but solving problems for the future of humanity.
Elon Musk
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What problems? Being solved how?
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JMO.
Sundance had his thumb on the pulse of the IA scam from the beginning.
The thick artificial fog has lifted like when the sun comes up over a fog covered oats field.
The shadows vanish and the field of view is clear….. the surveillance state can see us and we can see them.
As Sundance ended his article: “Welcome to the 2024 election season.”
Nothing new from the coup’s fed’s angle ….. they hate us….same song, different verse. They depend on the only trap they know, the catch-22 trap. That is their Achilles’ heel because it is 100% dependent on the unconstitutional administrative-state.
However, there is something new from America’s patriots perspective……. it falls somewhere between D-Day against the nazis and dropping “Little Boy” and “Fat Man” on the japs.
It can place the symbolic sword in President Trump’s hands to cut through the Gordian Knot that is tied around the DC enclave, ending the unconstitutional administrative-state for good. The unconstitutional administrative-state is the enforcer and financier of the COW-coup-d’état.
Following the quick demise of the unconstitutional administrative-state (months, not years), it is just a fairly simple matter to “make-null” all of the massive databases that have been developed by the IC / Silicon Valley illegal consortium that are used in the 2023 federal surveillance state.
America’s patriot’s new tool is putting the “2024 Constitutional Republic Mandate” into President Trump’s platform to allow the multi-millions of Americans to approve it.
D-day and the two bombs on the japs gave the USA the ability to demand an unconditional surrender and swift justice for the enemy criminals. There will be something of the sort for the treasonous, traitors who illegally certified biden as president in 2021 and overthrew the American government.
The surveillance state can be finished within months of President Trump taking office, which will allow him to have the next 3 years to concentrate on MAGA, AGAIN, not fighting the COW-coup-d’état. He deserves to have MAGA clear the field for him.
Think big and be bold ….. this is the time to do it ….. the bad guys aren’t geniuses, just crooks, and not very good crooks. They can be had.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
Exactly how does the surveillance state win? It’s pretty clear Musk’s “anti-semitic” tweets is a red herring for explaining why all of a sudden the corporate world wants the death of Twitter/X. These corporate types couldn’t care less about anything but profit. So why their sudden alignment with DS in this pogrom? Is it: A. DS gets the data mine on all Americans even remotely favorably associated with Donald Trump for future…what? Turning loose of 80,000 new IRS agents? B. Categorizing for the Social credit system in the near future, relegating them to the bottom at the outset? C. Outright door-kicking when the time is right? D. X simply goes dark and the reach of pro-Trump/Constitutional government Americans is terminated (without regard for the loss of Leftist contributors, who are a conquered specie and therefore insignificant?
Exactly who benefits and how, is still not much clearer to me than mud. Will a new “X” rise in the vacuum, and this one only accessible by vetted, blue chip Leftists?
I’m sure it’s my dullness, but how the DS/Surveillance State wins beyond exterminating the massed reasoning/protests of patriots I’m just not sure, or if that’s the intent.
I am very confused by the purported complexity of the entire X plot and Musk’s role/participation in it.
However, SD’s “2024 election” reply to a comment above which asked why the DS would allow the demise of X appears to be the ultimate, correct answer. Take away the largest forum available to PDJT (who recently tweeted anew on X) and both his current and potential supporters, and an incalculably large impediment to communication among them is erected. It is just another bullet point on the list of strategies to win by any means possible.
if Elon is concerned with free speech, then he needs to hook up with Andrew Torba at gab.
I have always said Elon Musk is a liar and a fraud. I suppose we now add con man to the list.
I have never had a twitter account, but this action makes me resent Wal-Mart even more than I already did. It is hard to boycott a store that you already avoid.
I am not convinced that WE can get enough people to boycott, for it to make a difference, and since everything is ultimately owned by Blackrock, not sure boycotting products is the answer.
WE would have to persuade EVERYONE (Never happen) to close their retirement accounts, and I mean EVERYONE.
Larry the Cable Guy on despicable Wal Mart (2020);
Twitter is like the one ring,
Elon & his Jewish CEO ( …but not reach, aka censorship) is definitely is an ADL supporter and shadowbanning #bantheADL. I.e. he is censoring conservatives, the telltale of a totalitarian player.
his twitter seems to be to be for making the list:
..One Ring to find them,One Ring to bring them all
Soon “they” will be coming for us, and in the darkness bind them, like they always do when the totalitarians take over.
How does Elon make money?
Government fiat much?
Screw him. Where and why did this Odd Job show up?
Exactly. I don’t like being played. In my dotage, I have finally learned that quirky, clever, and amusing are not synonymous with honesty.
Players professing what I want to be true do not make it true. I may be entertained, but my BS detector switch remains on. Most of these folks are actors who earn paychecks by delivering a credible performance.
If Twitter/X goes away, people without an outlet might finally be moved to act instead of blowing off steam posting bits and bytes into nothingness.
Joe Rogan/ Elon Musk
“Twitter was an arm of the government”
He has more in mind for X….. Think PayPal and FB …… A bigger issue for him is Tesla nightmare looming if Government loans and funding dries up. The future of un sustainable “electric” ( they are battery cars, not electric) cars is very troubling. They don’t “work” in most scenarios aside from short trips unless you have hours to wait in line to charge them……
No way – this isn’t all precisely planned from years ago. Musks purchase was a surprise and they’ve retaliated in kind. Now musk is screwed bc the gov has control over everything – it makes the laws, it own the media, and musk went up against them.
He had to have known this was a suicide mission from the start – or at least his advisors / consultants entourage knew. And if so, that makes him even more of a hero bc he wagered a ton of his own money and reputation just to get the word out that the gov was censoring political opp and propagandizing us. We all kinda knew but no one had proof until musks purchase of twitter.
The other option is musk is in cahoots with the gov, pretending to be for the people, but surreptitiously doing the gov bidding by exposing the gov’s actions and then bankrupting his own company so that the gov can have more surveillance???? Seriously?
I think someone just needed to make a post and make it bold to get clicks.
I have never really trusted Musk, as all of his ventures have always been connected to the US government in some way. I know that Robert Barnes, perhaps naively, thought that there was a falling out between the government and Musk, and that Musk had gone rogue. But perhaps the situation was more insidious. So many conservatives and Trump supporters had left Twitter under Dorsey. Perhaps Musk’s purchase, and announcements of ‘free speech’ was a way to get them back (and it did), and the purpose always was to harvest a data base of all ‘domestic terrorists’. It is not beyond the pale to think that Musk would be the perfect person to put into this leadership role….eccentric, rich, etc. But then you think about the financial implications to Musk…would he really dump all of his personal cash into such a venture, and lose that investment? Or was this entire purchase being funded from elsewhere, so that Musk had no liability whatsoever? Where could that money come from? How about those Pentagon audits where trillions are always unaccounted for? Under normal investment circumstances, Musk should be financially ruined if Twitter goes under. So it will be interesting to see if he walks away from this, financially unscathed.