Always remember, CNN = U.S. State Dept position.
CNN is reporting the Obama/Biden administration are seeking to delay the Israeli counteroffensive into Gaza in order to gain more time for hostage negotiations. Israel denies feeling pressure, yet something is holding them back; make of that what you will. However, the delay itself tracks accurately with the predictable intent of the ideologues behind the hidden agenda of the administration.
CNN – The Biden administration has pressed Israel to delay its imminent invasion of Gaza to allow for the release of more hostages held by Hamas and for aid to reach Gaza, according to two sources briefed on the discussions.
The release of two Americans held by Hamas Friday signaled that more of roughly 200 people believed to be kidnapped by the militant group may be freed after they were taken during the group’s deadly attacks launched against Israel two week ago.
“The [administration] pressed Israeli leadership to delay because of progress on the hostage front,” and the need to get trucks of aid into Gaza, one person familiar with the discussions said. The NSC did not immediately respond for comment.
Qatar, acting as a middle-man for the US and Israel, has been leading the discussions with Hamas about releasing the hostages since they were abducted by the militant group. According to a diplomat briefed on the talks, the negotiations have included talks about getting much-needed aid into Gaza and the need for a temporary ceasefire to get the prisoners out. Israel has not indicated they are considering a ceasefire. (read more)
As earlier reported, “US president Joe Biden, when asked by a reporter on Friday whether Israel should delay a potential ground invasion of Gaza until more hostages can get out, said “Yes.” The administration later tried to walk back that statement. Additionally, Bloomberg has also reported on the intent of the Biden administration to delay any ground war directly into Gaza until the hostages could be released {link}.
♦ Non-Pretending Predictability. Hamas, Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Biden administration are all working together. This is a geopolitical dynamic of merged interests aligned in common cause against the nation state of Israel. The transparency of a slow-drip hostage release, and the Western media spotlight upon it is predictable.
Everything is being done to stall, impede, slow down and interfere in the Israeli War against Hamas. Within this dynamic, the Brotherhood, Qatar, Hamas and the White House have the same objective. Trust me; Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia can see it very clearly.
First, a reminder of the baseline.
Obama/Biden et al, want a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians. I believe all efforts are underway to exploit the 10/7/23 terrorist attack to advance that agenda. Netanyahu is being carefully painted into a position where the survival of Israel will be contingent upon accepting this two-state solution, which essentially means -in the long picture- the elimination of the Israeli state.
Biden will give the outward face of complete support toward Israel; however, the background work will be to protect Gaza, and thereby Hamas, and controllably expand -if needed- the regional conflict, such that a two-state solution becomes the only viable option for the survival of Israel. Efforts by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood and by extension Iran, will appear to be confronted by Biden, but only insofar as the need for USA military support becomes more important and that dependency paints Netanyahu into a corner.
The nation of Qatar is the financial support system for the Muslim Brotherhood – the political umbrella of extremist (authentic) Islam. The Brotherhood supports Hamas, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, the Islamic State and all the terrorist affiliates therein. The Brotherhood leadership live in Turkey, under the protection of Recep Erdogan – who wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire. The Hamas leadership live in Qatar, under the protection of Khalid bin Khalifa bin Abdul Aziz Al Thani. Joe Biden supports the efforts of Erdogan and Thani.
Now, does the 2022 memo pictured left make more sense?
Each of the aforementioned actors, including Obama/Biden and all the U.S. operatives from the State Dept therein, view Israel as the provocateur in the dynamic. The pro-Palestinian progressive movement within the Democrat Party is visibly part of this dynamic. Thus, the alignment of common interests can be expanded to include, leftists, Democrats, Palestinians, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Biden Administration and Qatar. The common enemy, Israel.
Once you understand this dynamic, then you are able to see what happens in the background and how it aligns with the interests of the group.
Blunting any effort by the Israelis in the war against Hamas becomes a matter of taking steps that make it more difficult for the international community to support the Israeli side of the war against Hamas. The release of the two American hostages is part of this PR effort.
If hostages can be released/saved, shouldn’t all ‘good faith’ diplomatic efforts to secure the release of the 250 be exhausted before supporting Israels retaliation? See how that works?
That approach dilutes the righteous effort of Israel and starts to put a larger coalition against retaliation into place. Obama/Biden began this dilution process by warning Israel not to be emotionally focused on vengeance during his remarks a few days ago. The same was repeated during his national address.
Jordan’s King Abdullah, Egypt’s President Sisi and Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman have all been around the block with U.S. hidden agendas. They can see this play just as clearly as I am outlining it to you now. It is a dangerous game Obama/Biden, Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood are playing. Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia want no part of it.
Not news to anyone here.
Biden’s handlers are trying to make us believe that Hamas is going to release hostages knowing that soon as they do Israel is going to turn Gaza into a parking lot.
Sounds highly unlikely to me.
I’m waiting for a red flag event. Maybe we will destroy our own ship or military installation or embassy. Then blame it on someone else. Just me thinks. Then propagate our further involvement.
Israel doesn’t have to listen to America, does it, and why is it?
9/11 all over again
I was thinking the same thing. Just do it; they should have done it already.
Not sure what y’all are talking about: Israel is moving forward with their plans to destroy Hamas.
Sure, and when their f-16 are grounded, for want of spare parts, or lack of missiles, what THEN?
The israelis have SOME defence manufacturing capability, but mostly focused on high tech, and just bought their weoponry, complete with maintenance contracts, from the U.S.
And word is, even before Joe left, Blinken had threatened the Israelis with renegging on those contracts, if they didn’t stand down.
The only thing left alive in gaza should be the cat’s, dog’s and horses etc. you know, the “good” animals…
Amen
Israel does not have the weapons. Yet. The meeting with Blinken in Israel was seven (7) hours of arguing. We blackmailed Netanyahu; selling weapons to Israel was conditional; they follow our plan not their plan. It’s a lose – lose for Israel. Give up part of your land to form a Palestine with a Hamas government and military. Or, no weapons deal, the US will take their fleet home, your neighbors will come in with their weapons. We’ll be gone and Israel has no where to buy weapons.
Caroline Glick, in Israel, laid it out last week. Israel was counting on us. We rewrote their war plan and are leveraging them. The optics have the power to send half the world into Israel for retaliating when Hamas executes the hostages livestream. And yes, Obama IS Muslim Brotherhood, BLM, Hamas, a warmonger, is Biden and is a Shite. The outcome is in our Bible, we just didn’t know all the details. Now it’s plain. We befriended Israel only to betray Israel.
A lot of folks out there, unfortunately, don’t have a freaking clue how war really works.
All successful military large scale actions are won and loss on LOGISTICS – transportation, supplies, munitions, parts, POL (petroleum, oil & lubricants), food, medical and health.
If no parts nor munitions, bravery and skill are meaningless.
But all these armchair non-veteran geniuses have all the answers.
Solid Intel helps
The delay is to allow more kickback cash to flow into the area. If Israel wiped out Hamas and most of Gaza a whole lot of “humanitarian aid” couldn’t be skimmed and kickbacked.
Ya just di it. Where’s arnold when you need hin?
They do if America’s the one footing the bill and providing troops.
It is because they are holding weapons resupply and support to Israel hostage to their demands.
Then interview with Israeli podcaster a few days back determined isreal requires our buster bombs to destroy Hamas tunnel network or thousands will die. Bunker buster bombs are required or there is no invasion.
Methinks poison gases would work well in the tunnels.
Every day isreal delays a counter offensive, they give hamas time to be reinforced and supported by iran…
Israel doesn’t have to listen to America, does it, and why is it?
Israel has to listen to the US if they want re-supply of their iron-dome missiles and precision-guided bombs
They’re made in America
Israel needs to embark on a self-owned defense industry ramp-up so they’re not dependent on the US
Last paragraph- that doesn’t happen overnight like magical lucky charms.
yes, exactly
I imagine they’ve been at it already for quite some time, they’re not dummies (Israel)
That would make good sense, except that Israel is totally dependent on the US for military hardware, spare parts, JDAMs, ammo, everything. They can’t mount an offensive for very long without US backing. And don’t forget that Ukraine has bribed its way to first in line at the trough. Israel has to settle for leftovers. It truly sux, but it’s true.
We are working at a frantic pace to supply them with weapons. They are using them up as fast as we can find them.
Don’t you mean false flag? and I totally agree with you. Seriously everyday we get news updates on how Israel is preparing to invade Gaza any minute- going on what now 3 weeks?
What’s the old saying? S*^% or get off the pot…
Oh, the hostages-they say…without any actual knowledge of who or how many, whether they are dead or alive…ok then
It’s sickening the propaganda being spewed to convince us of what they want us to believe…
so they can waste more of our money, lauder more of our money and make themselves and their cronies richer while supporting their new world agenda.
It could be. Evil controls dc.
Thank you — the Biden Administration!
The United States has become an embarrassment on the world stage. Any leader of any country is basically ignoring what the ‘Biden Administration’ has to say.
America is in decline — thank you Joe Biden!!! And, certainly no longer a ‘world leader’ — regardless of how you define it.
Here’s an interesting discussion between Jeffrey Sachs, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen (The Duran) — 1 hour.
“Wars in the West, Development in the East”
“fundamental transformation” if memory serves
Zero loves his fundament.
Israel has the ultimate ace in the hole with 300 nukes. I’d hate to see it come to that. but the times we’re living in, nothing is off the table…
All but certain their German made subs are carrying atomic warheads on cruise missiles.
what class of diesel boat do they have? That would be ‘nukes’, most diesels are unable to carry nukes
Unfortunately, Israel doesn’t have missiles capable of delivering any of those nukes, to D.C.
OH,….you meant,…never mind.
It’s really bizarre watching our side cheer for NUCLEAR WAR. You really think that if Israel starts launching nukes that America won’t end up catching a few from our enemies? How many readers here are willing to get nuked over this conflict?
Nothing new…LOTS of fanatics on here regarding Israel. Anything goes with these guys. Check out Mr. Never DeSantis below for a taste…or Mr. Albert Johnson.
FJB
“…the hidden agenda of the administration.”
More and more that seems to be the main “thing.”
The hidden agenda.
Always the hidden agenda.
They won’t tell us anything. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero.
9/11 truth?
Nope.
JFK assassination?
In another 867 years we can open all the secret documents.
Las Vegas shooter?
Nope.
Jeffery Epstein’s “guests”?
Nope.
TWA 800?
Nope.
I truly believe “they” do not think we are, 1) smart enough to understand the truth, 2) emotionally balanced enough to handle the truth, 3) dumbed down enough to not have clue what they’re talking about, 4) controlled enough out of fear to not fight the truth, or a myriad of other options y’all can think of.
They truly think they are better than us, smarter than us, can handle their ugly doings better than us, and can do it so well that we don’t need to know the truth.
WuFlu?
Nope.
Clot shot?
Nope.
Safe and effective?
Nope.
Gun ‘safety’?
Nope.
Epstein killed himself?
Nope.
Well said.
Add the Dobbs abortion leak to the list.
These Northeastern so called intellectual snobs seem to be the unelected bureaucrats running this great land of ours.
I still do not understand why some individuals in this forum are cheering for a ground invasion of Gaza as any kind of solution to anything.
There are 2.0+ million people in the Gaza strip. It is densely populated. Any cannon you fire in there is going to cause civilian deaths.
Further, I take the one’s committing the terror acts are not neatly labelled and uniformed. This so that Israel soldiers can target them and pick them off. I would have thought the lesson in Vietnam would not have been forgotten. You can’t distinguish an innocent civilian from a Viet Kong foot soldier as they blend in flawlessly. Sure, there is no jungle, but Gaza is pretty much a concrete jungle. What is the solution then, to just kill anyone on sight indiscriminately?
My third point is that if you do end up killing childrens moms and dads, those children are going to grow up as the next generation of Hamas. They will have one very real reason to “dislike” the Israeli’s and the US. Such an operation would be ensuring the terror generation of the future. Rinse repeat.
The real solution is to de-escalate, and negotiate the release of hostages and come to a solution. Israel’s current path with a ground invasion seems to be collateral damage / civilian deaths and to offload remaining 2 million Gaza strip inhabitants into Jordan and Egypt as refugees.
The Biden administration just gave into Iran for the release of 5 hostages by giving them $6 billion. So they then go out and take over 200 more hostages. What is going to be your negotiation tactic this time? Your way has been tried countless times and failed. Death is the only solution. If civilians ignore the evacuation orders, that’s on them.
“If civilians ignore the evacuation orders, that’s on them.”
we should be prepared to hear that from “our” own government when they start the purges of red states. and if i were a civvy in that location, i would absolutely take up arms against the invading force with a dose of hatred that i cannot possibly describe – as would millions of others.
would someone like to come here and suggest that will never happen?
I do not believe Biden Administration paid for the release of 5 hostages.
I believe 5 hostages were an optic to illegally transfer $6 Billion to Iran, our enemy, Obama’s friend, so Iran can enter Israel and the imminent war.
The real solution is to de-escalate, and negotiate the release of hostages and come to a solution.
Which is … ??
Insanity. Keep doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. This is all a rope-a-dope setup, just like they did to the Ukrainians, etal. Obama stink all over it.
That has been tried every time and every few years we have another
There are no “innocent civilians” in GAZA, as all who did not support HAMAS, have been murdered BY Hamas, so any left ARE terrorists.
NOT “militants”, TERRORISTS that fully support what HAMAS did.
The solution, as outlined by PDJT, starts with not rewarding bad behavior, and from assigning responsibility.
Any rational person WOULD have maintained there was no way the U.S. could occupy Afgamistan, for 2+ years, without sustaining casualties.
“Why, oh why do you show me pictures of my home and village?”
The EU and U.S. Jumping to promise $100’s of millions in “Humanitarian aid” when it is HAMAS that will be handling every aspect of the transfer, ..
The problem is NOT Hamas, the problem is those who reward Hamas.
Don’t focus on the turtle, on the fencepost. Focus on the dumb sadistic sumbitch that PUT him there.
See the video I posted earlier
Bridget Gabriel—-Palestinians in Gaza are mostly HAMAS
Jordan and Egypt had already said they will not take the “refugees”, from childhood the kids are tought to kill the infidel, where ever you find them. For goodness sake I wish those that are stating “2 state solution” would read the Quran and the hadiths. Muslimes from birth are indoctrinated to kill Jews and Christians unless they pay you a tax to live. So no there would never be piece.
Bridget Gabriel tells about her life in Lebanon where Palestinians killed CHRISTIANS in the most brutal way Its on the TIk TOk video posted earlier.
And this
No such thing in Gaza as an innocent civilian.
Back in 1985 when Shia terrorists held about 40 Americans seized in the hijacking of TWA Flight 847, President Reagan said “Americans will never make concessions to terrorists. To do so would only invite more terrorism. Nor will we ask nor pressure any other government to do so. Once we head down that path there will be no end to it, no end to the suffering of innocent people, no end to the bloody ransom all civilized nations must pay.”
Sadly, future presidents did not abide by that dictate, and we now see the consequences.
“My third point is that if you do end up killing childrens moms and dads, those children are going to grow up as the next generation of Hamas.”
NEWSFLASH: they already are. Those kids are taught to hate Jews from birth. Eliminate them all if they the Palestinians don’t throw Hamas out of power.
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The “solution” they want is no more Israel, dead Jews, and a world that adopts Islam. This is not a land dispute. This is not a political dispute. There is nothing to “negotiate” in this sense. As for negotiation for hostages, all that does is incentivize the future taking of more hostages. That action not only protects them from retaliation, but also guarantees concessions and payments. The only way to stop this kind of crap is with a policy of no negotiation with terrorists.
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And yes, this is horrible and scary, and going in with guns blazing may or may not be able to save all of many or any hostages. But the ONLY way to deal with bully tactics (of any kind) is to not show fear and to give a bully a response that is so much worse than what the bully did that he will NEVER try it again.
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Assuming the hostages can not be rescued (not “negotiated for”) target them first, with bombing.
Its merciful, and eliminates them from the equation.
Then, take out all who had anything to do with taking them,…the Kaiser Soze solution to hostage takers.
Problem is, nobody has the BALLS, and as I said above, I don’t think Israel has missiles that will reach DC, as thats a major part of the “and all who,…”.
I agree. As a woman, if I were a hostage of those psychotic terrorists I would pray for a bomb to be dropped on my head. I am well aware of where I’m going when I die and I am certainly not afraid.
The only way to stop this kind of crap is with a policy of no negotiation with terrorists.
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“Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.”
”Kill them all. God knows those who are His own.”
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Motto of unit I served in many moons ago:
“Kill them all. Let God sort them out.”
Ooh Rah Marine Corps….
The people in Gaza ARE Hamas. They have been teaching their children to HATE the Jewish people, to want to KILL the Jews and to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
They are lost.
Each generation has been taught this hate so that there are zero “civilians” left.
They are raised to believe that martyrdom is a GOAL in life because their families will be paid a stipend for life.
War is ugly.
We have seen this with the interviews of Gaza MS and HS kids ALL proclaiming to want to “shoot, stab and run over Jews”, and marketing material/videos advertising summer camps for kids to train to be soldiers and terrorist with the pointed and specific objective of killing Jews.
Israel is between a rock and a hard place.
Neutralize the terrorists and their support system now before they are sent out on terrorist murder missions, or neutralize them later after they’ve had a chance to do their dirty deeds?
This is the grim reality that Hamas is wholly responsible for.
Exactly.
And it is incredibly sad.
Israel MUST use the rock and the “hard place” to flatten Gaza.
Children in Gaza blow up quickly.
Biggest bunch of lib-crap I’ve ever read here.
Because to win a war; you hit the enemy with everything until they cry for mercy. War is Hell no doubt. The innocent victims demand justice.
This whole stop bombing them or they will hate Israel is ridiculous
this hatred of the jews has gone on for centuries and will go on till
the end the time.. There is no Bottle of coke singing on a mountain
top outcome here..
There is a reason NONE and I mean NONE of the other Arab
countries are willing to take these refugees/people…
If the People in Gaza are so tired of this then maybe they should do
thier best to get rid of Hamas.. Turn them in,, They know where these
people are hiding..if they
turned them into the Israelies then maybe this would stop but they don;t
so kinda hard to feel bad for them.. THe children yes but the adults no..
There are what like 2.5 million people in that small area, If we says 1 million
are children then the rest are certainly able to get rid of Hamas IF THEY SO CHOSE
to do but they don;t so…….thier hatred of Israel is stronger than they choice
to stop what is going on ….
THis is a pattern with Hamas they attack Israel , Israel defends but is told to be
measure. Hamas cries victim, then the hostilities stop…until Hamas starts it again.
why would anyone think negotiating an end to this will end it.. ..
A negotiation with these barbarians is impossible. They VOTED for Hamas to run things. They will have to accept the horrible consequences.
There are NO INNOCENTS in Gaza.
How would anyone talk people in Gaza into stop murdering Jews? They delight in such murder.
Mathew 26:52 “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (the words of Jesus)
And how many missiles/rockets, etc were lobbed at Israel every day before the “war”? Time to try something different. It’s a great thought, but there’s no dealing with terrorists whose goal is to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
Interested Patriot, please the article you are responding to with your comment. A further understanding of events in Gaza/Israel can be understood by also reading the comments replying to your comment.
From this Article by Sundance, in part:
“Obama/Biden et al, want a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians. I believe all efforts are underway to exploit the 10/7/23 terrorist attack to advance that agenda. Netanyahu is being carefully painted into a position where the >>survival of Israel will be contingent upon accepting this two-state solution, which essentially means -in the long picture- the >>>>elimination of the Israeli state.”
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Me/GGHD, =The Nation of Israel is fighting a war for existence. … There is no ‘peaceful solution’ with the Militant Jihadists, as they, the Militant Jihadists, want the >’Final Solution’ for Israel and the Jews.
Me/GGHD, = Militant Jihad occurs around the world; the Jihadists see death as the final solution for everyone they view as ‘enemies’ of Islam. … Not all Muslims think like the Militant Jihadists.
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This article again:
“The nation of Qatar is the financial support system for the Muslim Brotherhood – the political umbrella of extremist (authentic) Islam. The Brotherhood supports Hamas, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, the Islamic State and all the terrorist affiliates therein. The Brotherhood leadership live in Turkey, under the protection of Recep Erdogan – who wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire. The Hamas leadership live in Qatar, under the protection of Khalid bin Khalifa bin Abdul Aziz Al Thani. Joe Biden supports the efforts of Erdogan and Thani.
Now, does the 2022 memo pictured left make more sense?
Each of the aforementioned actors, including Obama/Biden and all the U.S. operatives from the State Dept therein, view Israel as the provocateur in the dynamic. The pro-Palestinian progressive movement within the Democrat Party is visibly part of this dynamic. Thus, the alignment of common interests can be expanded to include, leftists, Democrats, Palestinians, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Biden Administration and Qatar.
The common enemy, Israel.
Once you understand this dynamic, then you are able to see what happens in the background and how it aligns with the interests of the group.
[TheConservativeTreehouse provides excellent information about the problems faced by the Israelis in ~many other articles.]
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Interested Patriot, your comment in part,
“The real solution is to de-escalate, and negotiate the release of hostages and come to a solution.”
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Me/GGHD, =The opponents of Israel are working for a ‘final solution’ for Israel. … Other people have asked for you, Interested Patriot, to provide your ‘solution’ to the current war in Gaza and Israel.
May God Bless and Protect Israel. … & May God Bless America Once Again.
I don’t know nothing about two states, but I do believe Biden Co see an opportunity to look like peacemakers at Israel’s expense and hoping for a Nobel Peace Prize as an election winning ploy.
Always look for the election angle in anything the Dems do. I learned that from Maja Rushie.
Ma Ha Rushie also told us that Dems will find a way to eliminate elections. Dems don’t need no stinking voters. They have ballots.
Israel is being told that the either do it our way or no more help
Israel has no choice but to do what needs to be done. They’ve tried to live peacefully with these people, and Oct. 7 happened.
There should never be negotiations with terrorists. If their victims become martyrs it actually hurts their cause. Paying them a ransom gives them an incentive to use this to raise even more funds. It is interesting that one of the serious crimes, besides murder, that receive the death penalty in the Old Testament was kidnapping.
Report: Biden Administration Seeking Delay of Israeli Ground War to Gain More Time for
Hostage TalksHamas to regroup and rearm and stage new attacks…Hudna
BINGO! This has OBAMA all over it.
The angle missed in this piece is that an on the gound offensive into GAZA will be extremely costly in terms of IDF lives.
Many competent analysts have pointed that out. Some even believe that HAMAS has planned that since it is so likely. Would HAMAS do that in spite of the loses of its own people? Uh, yes!
Not to mention the economic consequences of calling up tens of thousands of reservists away from their jobs to go perform military service for an unknown period of time.
Israel has already called up thousands of reservists. In fact, Israel has so many now that they don’t have jobs for all of them.
Should Turkey enter the war they have 2 million soldiers. Well trained, equipped and ferocious fighters. Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia don’t want the war. What would they win?
You misspelled Neville there George.
Just read at another site that Hamas has been setting booby traps all over the place. One booby trapped remote explosive was found in a child’s backpack innocently lying in a field where a previous explosion had occurred. The ground offensive is going to be dangerous and loaded with traps
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Depends on what the ground offensive tactics are.
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“Thus, the alignment of common interests can be expanded to include, leftists, Democrats, Palestinians, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Biden Administration and Qatar. The common enemy, Israel.”
This might not be the place or time to comment on this but…All of these interests align with Islam and thus, the Quran. For years now we have the lgbtqxyz crap shoved down our throats daily 24/7, most especially on television. Islam and the Quran do not condone the lgbtqxyz crowd whatsoever.
All of the same people out protesting for Palestinians and Hamas are the same leftists idiots that protest for the protected groups. Clearly these American college kids don’t see their hypocrisy. Hamas terrorists don’t just want Jewish people dead, they want everyone that does not believe the same as them dead.
Its a sad state of affairs that are young minds have been so indoctrinated they have no clue what they are actually protesting.
Bill Maher on ‘Queers for Palestine’ protesters noted that Hamas has made being gay a crime punishable by death. Journalist James Kirchick: ‘Did you hear their sister organization, blacks for the KKK?’
Brainwashed sheep.
Those cruise missles that were fired the other day seem to say the Chinese may have a dog in this fight.
IMO Israel would be best off for themselves to go after Hamas now and if the US balks Biden will be forced to take the side of Israel.
IMO President DOJ Trump would have demanded all hostages be released with 24 hours or we would be going after Hamas as well as Israel
Of course none of this would be taking place if the 2020 election was not stolen.
Trump would have told the army at Centcom Qatar to arrest the Hamas Hezbollah and Iranians lounging poolside at the five star hotels and bring them to immediate war crimes trials.
Every hostage would have been released in an hour.
yes, you should refuse them.
MB,
For awhile now, I have had a recurring mental image, of you and me as the two buzzards in the “Patience my ass, I wanna KILL something!” cartoon.
Perhaps its the nicotine withdrawal, effecting my brain ,…?
ha – a classic. 😉
its interesting, though… i am very cautious on that front because, despite people regularly jumping to that conclusion based on me calling for us to do more (and i think at least one of my previous monikers has been banned for “inciting violence” despite doing no such thing) – i think that should be very VERY far down our list.
the catch 22, though, is that in the absence of us being prepared and willing to do the many effective things in between to restore our republic, its just going to default what’s “easy” and quick and escalate quickly… no one wants to be beaten, jailed, watched, arrested, cancelled, and so on. we just want to be left alone. i fully appreciate that. but it will be very unfortunate and sad – none of us should want what comes after it. but we should also stop simply putting up with and suffering fools, charlatans, and demons.
not nic withdrawal, but maybe my afternoon beer.
All of Israel is a hostage.
You should inspect the Aid before it crosses into Gaza. Every box and bag and the undercarriage of the trucks, under the hoods and inside the cabs. You should make some demands and conditions on Hamas for agreeing to allow Aid. You should make sure Israel gets the credit for insuring the delivery of the “Humanitarian Aid”. Because it’s going to cost the US only paper money but it has and will cost Israel tangibles: thousands of Israeli’s and land.
It was reported the Hamas Headquarters is the same hospital basement where the Hamas Rocket misfired.
That tells you all you need to to know about how little regard Hamas has for human life.
I hope Israel introduces Hamas to Allah very shortly.
https://www.investigativeproject.org/4630/ipt-exclusive-qatar-insidious-influence-on
Brookings Doha Center
Biden wants the slow roll out of hostages being returned leading up to the election so he can claim he is the one who was measured and got results. FJB
The Saudis seem to be hedging their bets. It doesn’t look like the Muslim world is united.
“All militarily occupied people have a right to resist their occupation, even militarily. I do not support the military option in Palestine,” Turki said. “I prefer the other option, civil insurrection and disobedience. It brought down the British Empire in India and the Soviet Empire in Eastern Europe. Israel has overwhelming military superiority. And we see in front of our eyes, the devastation and oblivion it is bringing to the people of Gaza.”
https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/10/20/former-saudi-spy-chief-condemns-hamas/
Israel doesn’t like Hamas just like the CIA didn’t like ISIS.
paging Dr. Frankenstein…
The communist Jew-hating Obama is behind Biden in everything he does, beginning with shutting down the economy on day one with the executive order closing the Keystone XL Pipeline. That started Bidenflation rolling.
Every 1/2 day adds to the potential casualty list for the IDF (if they go full invasion vs a limited advance or tactical local raids) by allowing Hamas Commanders to put more stuff in place, create false targets, ambushes, pack “civilian shields” near targets and move hostages into the line of fire.
The problem is that there is NO key terrain nor center of gravity that would force Hamas to surrender in the case of a full blown assault to occupy the Gaza while removing Hamas Cells. While the assault is occurring the media, the UN, the US and G7, et al will be 247/: showing video clips, making threats, making impossible demands, ….
I would not rule out a US Congressional delegation flying to the Gaza very soon.
“I would not rule out a US Congressional delegation flying to Gaza very soon.”
I am ALL in favor, after all they have rigged the election to guarantee we can’t vote them out, or primary them out, so YES.
In fact, all 535 Should offer themselves up, as hostages in exchange for the release of those israelis kidnapped, and the 2:1 ratio seems appropriate.
Then, AFTER the swap, is when we stand firm on no negotiation, lol.
Go ahead, KEEP , as we don’t WANT them back!
Would you like Gov. Whitmer, while your at it?
Yeah, and send CGI images of each one of those 535 bad mouthing Hamas and calling Mohammed a goat ‘fornicator.’
That would solve a lot of problems for a lot of different people.
I remember the words of Stonewall Jackson at Fredericksburg when Burnsides union army came up the hill in perfect order.
There is a time for fierceness and even brutality against evil. This is one of those times
My thinking exactly.
The only “rule of war” is to WIN.
Jackson and Lee observed the ruins of the town of Fredericksburg after the battle. Union troops had looted the town, leaving widespread, wanton destruction in their wake.
Lee asked, “What do you do with people like this?
Jackson replied: “Kill them. Kill them all.”
An Iranian hostage crisis.
This is how you defeat Israel without firing a shot.
How willbJordan, Egypt and the big guy, Saudi Arabia respond,….THAT is the real question.
The goal of forcing a two State “final solution” on Israel, is only a step in the ultimate goal, of shutting down Oil production.
How can Israel be “destroyed” as a Nation, without it inevitably leading to a complete disruption of any Oil production?
Hence, MBS of Saudi Arabia KNOWS the aforementioned actors listed by Sundance, ultimately have Saudi Arabia in their crosshairs.
The thing is, with their virtually unlimited wealth, and given the powerful enemies they face (Iran AND U.S., and WEF) the Saudis would be foolish NOT to invest $ in aquiring some nukes of their own.
And, the Saudis are NOT foolish.
NEW NATIONAL POLL: Close to 60% of American Muslims Support Hamas Atrocities Against the Jews
https://gellerreport.com/2023/10/new-national-poll-close-to-60-of-american-muslims-support-hamas-atrocities-against-the-jews.html/
Deport them to gaza.
The Palestinians don’t want a 2 state, they have rejected every offer. They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
They want Israel to not exist. How does one compromise with that position?
These Palestinian civilians voted 80 percent for Hamas. They danced in the streets and handed out sweets when one Jew is killed.
Something bigger is brewing. Its not about land.
They can talk and plan till the cows come home .
But God is using even the wicked to work out the plan he has declared from the beginning.
Ezekiel 38
The best option is to stick close to Him.
Secret Hamas agendas aside, Israel’s facing:
– Probable multiple fronts via Hezbollah.
– Worldwide terrorism ignited by the ground invasion
– 40% of the IDF being comprised of women. No offense to the Israel ladies, but the male combatants of Hamas and Hezbollah have a physical advantage here.
– Possible disruption to the oil supplies if there are retaliatory embargos/cuts to oil production.
– Economic disruption not just from the physical cost of war, but from having to call up hundreds of thousands of Israeli reservists away from their jobs.
– Chinese and Russian forces looming around nearby.
It shouldn’t surprise anyone that there’s a delay. This requires very careful planning.
To quote the fish guy in star wars, it’s a trap! Everything joebama is doing benefits the enemy. And this is why I’m beginning to wonder if the soth fiasco is a good thing.
The trick is to separate HAMAS from any Palestinians who just want to live normal lives.
Israel could do this by announcing over and over that any weapons or HAMAS fighters identified by drones and/or satellites will result in the destruction of the building they occupy. Hospitals, mosques, apartment blocks, nothing will be spared. Israel has to drive a wedge between HAMAS and the actual civilians. Their policy will be harsh but it must be that way in order to leave no doubt in a civilian’s mind that if they harbor HAMAS fighters or weapons, their home will be destroyed. That goes for their hospitals, businesses, and places of worship as well. It’s the only way to do it.
The taxpayer dollars are burning a hole biden’s pocket. And he can’t wait to offer hamas billions of OUR dollars to maybe release the few hostages they haven’t already killed…
Dirty bomb coming your way, by way of Syria of course. Drudge front page is talking chem. Weapon. Too early for a Nagasaki Hiroshima event.
Does Iran Realize Its Own Growing Danger?
Victor Davis Hanson
October 20, 2023
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/10/20/does-iran-realize-own-growing-danger/
[snip]
For the first time in decades, there is no nation that can restrain Israel from destroying Iran’s pawn Hamas —not after it butchered 1,400 Jewish citizens and radical Palestinians in Gaza keep celebrating the slaughter and promising more such savage mass murdering.
Iran’s other proxy, Hezbollah, still issues blood-curdling threats to launch missiles. But it privately knows that if it hits Israel with them, Beirut will resemble something far worse than the rubble of 2006 during the last Middle East war.
The world despises Iran, and now finally accepts it cannot be appeased. Arab nations neither want Gazan refugees anywhere near them nor the Hamas terrorists whom Gaza residents voted into power.
[snip]
To play its global jihadist role, Iran must always keep upping its terrorist ante and constantly louder threats.
It assumes the Middle East is business as usual—when it is insidiously becoming just the opposite. An appeasing Biden is not driving events but being driven by them, whether he knows it or not.
The Iranians have little clue that that they and their vassals are one stupid missile volley, or one reckless intervention, away from a devastating Western response that necessarily would not be “proportionate.”
And such a retaliation would be welcomed by Iran’s numerous enemies, privately applauded by its small number of supposed “friends,” and largely shrugged off by its even fewer allies.
Joe Biden: The Ayatollahs’ Best Friend Forever [along with BHO – W]
October 20, 2023
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/10/20/joe-biden-the-ayatollahs-best-friend-forever/
President Joe Biden showed leadership and courage this week by flying into an active war zone to personify solidarity with America’s embattled friends and allies in Israel. [No, he didn’t. He couldn’t “lead” anything out of a wet paper bag. – W]
Too bad Biden’s appeasement of Iran made the trip necessary. [there ya’ go – W]
Does Israel have mobile tactical nukes?
Something tells me Hamas has 1 or 2….
We are about to watch XiJoe’s regime wag the dog. Will it be a nuclear attack on the US mainland? Will they run to their Maui hideaways? It seems the only “logical” endgame.
If the occupant’s goal is destroying Israel, why are they trying to give billions to them? It makes no sense unless they are in reality pocketing/laundering the money back to themselves/Muz Brotherhood. I see nothing but hard times coming if these idiots get us in a hot war. What happens when one of our carriers is sunk? Or when our Marines with lipstick and dresses turn tail and run on the battlefield? Are there any rational minded people left in this gov to do what’s right before it’s too late?
“Bibi, you have my word as a Biden.”
The Israelis have an unequaled advisor that Biden, Obama, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, and the Islamic State don’t! Seek GOD’s direction, Israeli. If you are told to go and clean out the Islamic Brotherhood. Then what are you waiting on?
On page 1 there is a post from David, and a video. Go to page 1 to read it and view it. Thanks.
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I am continously bothered by the repeat arguments some here and elsewhere make about protecting “civilians”.
This implies a morality that somehow soldiers’ lives are worth less. All my children are military. All are kind, law-abiding, hard-working, volunteering, loving people (the infantry guy is also a part-time pastor). How dare anyone imply that they are worth less than “civilians”, which includes not only small children but also thieves, thugs, abusers, haters, addicts, perverts, terror-supporters, and similar.
Meanwhile, apparently the recent jihadi “success” has emboldened a whole lot of people with disgusting attitudes and beliefs, usually kept hidden outside the mosques, to out themselves, assuming, apparently, that, like tranny-porn, it’s now acceptable. Here’s a U.S. “civilian” lawyer holding a government job! There are many, many “civilians” in the jihadist world that would be pleased to spit on your lopped-off head.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/attorney-illinois-comptroller-office-fired-anti-semitic-rants/
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The sooner they get in and get out, the less response they will get from other Muslim nations. This dillydallying just heats up the opposition more. It’s completely crazy. Everything Biden touches seriously turns to cr… It’s the Obama touch.
The only thing holding them back – is not wanting to march into a meat grinder kill zone without a plan and some more preparation. This is going to be very difficult fighting. And when you go, you better have every last detail ready.
Funny how the ADF had that miss hit on Egypt, hmmm. They also are putting so much pressure on al Sisi, making him look bad to other Muslims for not helping more. But as for Bibi (Netanyahu), he deserves some heat after he backstabbed Trump. Now he gets his comeuppance with Biden/Obama stabbing him right back. He chose that bed, so lie in it.
Just wanted to also say that this timing is very suspicious, it’s almost as if they are setting up not only for Iran to get their mercenaries in place, but even so China can join in the action. These are unbelievable times. It would obviously be better to surgically flatten Hamas quickly, efficiently, and if some hostages are lost, so be it. At least the main mission is accomplished and then they can haggle for the remaining hostages. Hamas wants money anyway, Biden will pay that. Israel should just go in, and pray it’s not Mogadishu.
Bibi to Biden,
“While we are making great effort to locate hostages and rescue them, the destruction of Hamas is our first goal. For as long as there is Hamas, there will be other hostages. The ones being held aren’t the first, and if we don’t make our primary effort the elimination of Hamas, they won’t be the last of Hamas’ hostages.”
Is Biden seeking this extra time while sunning on the beach? Great work if you can get it.
The play for hostages is: You took them. Unless you return them all, safe and sound, we will assume that they are dead,or worse. We are here because you are a rogue organization that shouldn’t exist… and won’t unless I get all the hostages. We will begin executing high value targets by housing them in places like “Pelican Bay” in general population.