Please always remember. CNN = State Dept. WaPo = CIA. NYT = DOJ/FBI/DNI. This constant will never change.
Today CNN is out with four reporter bylines on one story to push the official U.S. State Dept story that Iran had no idea Hamas was going to launch the attack against Israel. That’s the collective story, assembled by the people behind Joe Biden, and they are sticking to it.
Now, let’s cut through the pretending. The State Dept is pushing the story the Biden team need them to, because the point of defending Iran is to maintain a friendly posture and dance with the devil. The team behind Biden is hopeful that this approach will endear them to Iran so that Tehran will keep Hezbollah out of the fight. It’s diplomatic pretending pushed on a global stage and managed by the PR firm of the State Dept through CNN. That’s the ‘why’ of this story.
Now, read very carefully as to how it is constructed. You will see the couched terms and carefully edited propaganda.
CNN – The United States has collected specific intelligence that suggests senior Iranian government officials were caught by surprise by Saturday’s bloody attack on Israel by Hamas, according to multiple sources familiar with the intelligence.
The existence of the intelligence has cast doubt on the idea that Iran was directly involved in the planning, resourcing or approving of the operation, sources said.
The sources stressed that the US intelligence community is not ready to reach a full conclusion about whether Tehran was directly involved in the run-up to the attack. They continue to look for evidence of Iranian involvement, which caught both Israel and the United States by surprise.
And since the attack, government officials have noted that Iran has provided longstanding and significant support for Hamas, including weapons and financing, that unquestionably contributed to Hamas’s ability to pull off such a massive operation.
But the sources said that this intelligence – which has been briefed to lawmakers on Capitol Hill – has led US analysts to lean toward an initial assessment that the government of Iran did not play a direct role in the attack.
“Iran likely knew Hamas was planning operations against Israel, but without the precise timing or scope of what occurred,” said one US official. “Although Iran has long supported Hamas with material and financial support, we have not currently seen anything to suggest Iran supported or was behind the attack.”
But, this person cautioned, it is premature to draw any final conclusions based on what the US knows right now.
“We will be looking at additional intelligence in the coming weeks to inform our thinking on this issue, including whether there were at least some within their system that either had a clearer sense of what was coming or even contributed to aspects of the planning,” the official said.
Another source familiar with the intelligence told CNN’s Jim Sciutto that Iran was caught by surprise by the timing of the attack.
The sources did not disclose any further details about the nature of the intelligence, which one source briefed on the information said is extremely sensitive. (read more)
See how carefully that is written? The “intelligence” is bulls**t.
The intelligence is manipulated to create a structure of usefulness to the Nuland, Biden, Obama, Haines diplomatic effort to support Iran. The intelligence is couched carefully to avoid losing all credibility; but the intelligence is all political.
CNN, first name in bullshyte.
is that CNN truck unloading a load of it there?
That truck looks like it could carry $6B.
So.
It is offical.
If liar CNN says that IRAN DID NOT KNOW.
Then that means THAT IRAN DID KNOW.
Iran should have been nuked long ago.
Isn’t it great, really?
Because of their lockstep consistency, they have flipped the script on credibility.
From a time when the Institutions had credibility that they WERE telling the truth, to now having absolute credibility that they are lieing..they are making it so easy for us.
Love Sundances detailed providing of reciepts, ..yet WE don’t really need reciepts any more.
If they say it, in unison its a lie. If its “bi-partisan” WE are being screwed…
Dutch, and yet, there are those parroting these lies. All around us the fools repeat it like parrots.
Someone could come along and punch the fool in the face, giving them a black eye. CNN reports- you were not punched fool, you ran into a doorknob.
The fool later that day when hanging with friends:
Friend: Bro, that dude who punched you gave you a nice shiner.
Fool: Nah, I ran into a door knob. See, CNN said so.
Bi-partisan was replaced with “two-spirit-partisan” which is just another variant of the ever-expanding alphabet of ways to be a closeted Leftist, an out-and-proud Leftist or a trans-Leftist.
Oooookay…
“Well now I’ve done murder…I’ll think about it tomorrow”
“Well, bless your heart…”
Give ‘em the DOUBLE whammy, Betts …
Told ya this morning I kept it in reserve!!
Now you know why 😎
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Actually, it was self-defense. One could imagine what that scumbag thief was going to do to her.
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Monti, earlier this year there were HUGE demonstrations against Netanyahu and his plan to redesign their Supreme Court which is über Liberal.
I thought then that the usual US suspects and maybe/probably Soros had their fingerprints all over those uprisings.
At the risk of sounding hypocritical here, my advice would be that the US should physically stay out…send funds and weaponry (yes, I know).
Just as I am now sure those same fingers are dripping with the blood of Israelis murdered, raped, or killed, including the elderly, children, and hostages.
Do not under any circumstances let the antisemite foxes near or in the henhouse…
Anything which is learned from an incursion of US military will be shared with the Iranian mullahs post haste.
Know who your enemies are, Israel. If you don’t already.
The carrier isn’t over there to support Israel…
and bless their hearts.
…every lying morally duplicitous one.
RBF?
Evening, Doc. I want to answer you but I’m struggling after a long day…RBF? I am sure when you tell me I’ll slap my forehead and say, “But of course!!!”
No, sweetie it’s not RBF (resting “b” face), but that of a truly skeptical southern lady 😉
Ahhhhhhh!!! Now I know!! LOL!!!! Thank you for that, Mims! 😂😂😂
Sometimes one look says it all, right?
Full disclosure: I was given one of those faces…ask my children and my grands😎
This is the only honest, accurate news site left…
notice the terminology..Direct involvement,,so did they have indirect
involvement that just as bad..and.. at this time leaves.. the door open
should things not work out then well guess what we found THE EVIDENCE.
Gawd I hate weasel words and weasel speak. Our State Dept. is full of Small Dead Animals … mentally, and ethically, dead.
Speaking of Small Dead Animals…..check out the site
Aka….the “Roadkill Diaries”…fine Canadian blog.
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/
SAVED!!! Thanks, Ad rem 👍🏻
I’ve hung out there for many years … because Kate is one smart woman. Kenji … there too
Placed it on my daily “must reads”.
“Silence is complicity … Silence is complicity …”
… sez Dribblin’ Joe at the mic, the same guy who hid from the Press in silence for 3 days
God, he’s just SO bad
Motor-mouths thru sentences so fast he’s almost tripping on the words
So obvious he’s reading a teleprompter
Joe’s as bad with a teleprompter as Obama was without one
again bringing up loss of his son
tripping through the two lips . . .
where is that guy with the ukulele when you need him . . . that would be good background music
Yes, I did not have any direct involvement, in your killing your wife.
That is to say, there is no ADMISSABLE EVIDENCE that I had DIRECT involvement.
I knew, in a GENERAL kind of way, that you hated your wife, wished her dead, would profit financially from her death, loaned you my gun, and provided you with a since discredited alibi, but DIRECT involvement,…sheesh no actual EVIDENCE.
No reasonable prosecutor,…
Iran has already admitted to providing “training” to Hamas.
Well-duh
oblique involvement . . .
one of those shots in billiards where you don’t directly hit the ball but that is the ultimate accomplishment plus you might get in a few others . . .
no, we weren’t DIRECTLY involved
Nobody pays attention to nuanced language.
People pick out key words, and, to borrow from Simon and Garfunkel’s “The Boxer”, they all hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest.
I’m sure the propagandist media understand this well.
video covers:
— action in north Israel from Lebanon and Syria
— tunnels in south Gaza, including using Gaza Metro for military purposes
— American fleet offshore, including Israeli protecting carrier group
My opinion is that military use of Gaza Metro warrants Israel blowing it
“Sorry, if you’re going to use it militarily, then you don’t get to HAVE a metro”
“Sorry, not sorry”
11 Oct! Hamas Hell Plan Fell Into Hands of Israel!
I share your opinion. Collapse every tunnel in and out of Gaza.
edit: that should be “Israeli subs protecting carrier group”
The tunnels alone necessitate the ground invasion. They are full of rockets. Can you imagine what is in Lebanon. Then what is in Iran.
Fill the tunnels with water from the med…
Hamas = Iran = Hamas
https://t.me/realKarliBonne/200446
WRONG. HAMAS=ISRAEL…
Your attempt at moral relevancy is disgusting and quite frankly sociopathic.
There’s no moral high ground for anyone. There’s only hate, love, or hypocrisy.
Nonsense … if Hamas and all the bloody Muslims would drop their arms … there’d be PEACE tomorrow and forever. That’s the TRUTH … and that’s the moral high ground.
If Israel dropped their arms tomorrow … they’d all be DEAD.
Now talk to me about moral equivalency
Simply stated but true.
All roads lead to CIA, which is how we refer to a globullist network of intel freaks, in almost every intel agency.
Sociopaths that have far more in common with each other, than with their own “countrymen”.
My man, you went there!
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All roads lead to Langley!!!!
Hey, everyone, look it’s one of those fools I have spoke of over the last two days. Look ^^^^^^ and laugh. To be such a sad creature but yet think you are not….LMFAO at your pathetic attempt.
The Ayatollahs knew. And I’m becoming increasingly convinced Netanyahu knew.
Well, Pearl Harbor was the catalyst to get America into WWII, Kennedy’s assassination prevented the CIA’s significant restructuring and the rise of LBJ and George HW Bush, 9/11 was the catalyst to get America into the Middle East and craft the Patriot Act to target its citizens and later used on political opponents of one party. And Covid was the catalyst to allow for mass vaccination, civil rights removal and massive mail-in ballot harvesting. So I guess I’m just a knucklehead that thinks that, yes, it is remotely possible that governments might know exactly what is going on or what is about to happen, yet look the other way and allow their people to suffer, just to get what they want.
Need patriot act part 2? Open the border to terrorists.
Frightfully… and incomprehensibly… yes.
Everyone knows how the terrorists brag about their capabilities and Allah supported victories. They all bloviate to no end about how powerful they are.
BN and Israel probably had a message claiming the largest attack in 50 years was coming but likely did not put enough credence in it’s warning, unfortunately.
Increasingly convinced … because ? Are you a 9-11 Truther too? You agree with Rosie O’Donnell that steel doesn’t bend or melt and is totally resistant to fire?
The towers, fell by fire and jet fuel? Into their own footprints? 3 of them in 1 day? In seconds? One just collapsed in under 7 seconds, into a neat pile…not hit by a plane….
Because physics……right?
Hmm..
Ok, sure.
The one thing you seem to lack, is a visible sense, that everyone is lying, about a lot of things right now. The first thing in war that happens, is the truth is bent for whomever wants the advantage. There are many suspicious cats, that wonder, how this attack came to be, without seeing something, hearing something, given the capability’s of the intel services, not to mention, sensors, and security, beyond imagination.
I dont think taking pot shots at a person who posts this thought process, is something you should be doing.
Or insulting people who question the Government and 9/11.
We dont pretend around here. And other points of view are welcome. The truth doesn’t care about your insults, or feelings, truly.
Sadly you know nothing of metallurgy, structural engineering, inertia, and a host of other high level thinking skills. I can still remember saying out loud when I saw the Twin Towers fires continue and get larger … that these buildings were gonna collapse. I was dreaming at my TV at 9:00 am Pacific time … to GET OUT of those buildings NOW.
TRUTH is never insulting … unless you deny it
Screaming at my TV
Yeah, did lots of work in construction, developed a basic understanding of structural engineering, and I have no problem believing the planes, and the fires brought down the towers, including bldg 7.
Also no problem understanding Bin Laden was creation of the operation detailed in “Charlie Wilsons War” and that he showed Congress how they could bypass the Executive, and the People to engage in war making, without having any responsibility.
McStain and Lindsey, etc. took the ball and ran with it.
So no, given the complexity in creating a controlled demo, the towers were NOT brought down with squib charges, placed precisely on each floor, with exactly the right lenght wire to assure all charges on one floor go off at ptecisely the same time, for all 100+ floors.
But that doesn’t mean the U.S. Govt. wasn’t conducting a fund raising op, …
I am not nearly as skeptical about that possibility. Or just a good old fashioned Pentagon contractor bake sale
thx for a voice of reason, dutchman
these truthers remind me of a facebook group with an intentionally over-the-top name that evokes conspiracist wingnuts:
“Jet Fuel Can’t Melt Autism Vaccines”
Hahaha … you made me laugh
What tower collapsed that wasn’t hit by a plane ?
Pretty easy to look up but here you go.
https://www.wionews.com/world/third-tower-was-also-brought-down-on-911-the-conspiracy-theories-and-importance-of-tower-seven-412317
Caused by debris impact from North tower fall.
I was off grid at the time , up in British Columbia. Probably one of the last people to hear of it
Building 7.
Tell us all about Building 7.
…I’ll wait.
Easy … two 110 story buildings just collapsed adjacent to Bldg. 7 … the shockwaves alone would fracture the shit out of every bolted connection.
That doesn’t mean it would come down like a contract implosion.
It ain’t working man.
Nonsense. Absolutely wrong. Geez Louise…LOL!
Well, I have worked in the commercial construction industry for 35+ years and have seen up close controlled demolitions on high rises smaller than these and it looked EXACTLY how those buildings come down.
Conversely, I have been involved in the past were tornadoes, flying debris much smaller than those ‘planes’ that brought those buildings down caused damage that didn’t fall in any kind of pattern close to that. Shit all over the place.
In addition, I’ve seen military grade explosions as a young man and know what that looks like also.
As far as Bldg 7 goes (sorry Dutch), no f*+^ing way it came down in a controlled looking manner just because the buildings near it were hot and falling.
Nothing personal, Kenji, but you can take BS somewhere else.
As far as academics in this stuff goes, i literally, everyday, watch superintendents that come up thru the ranks without formal educations, correct structural engineers left and right with degrees and licenses all the time, project after project, for YEARS.
I’ve worked with and supplied high profile, well known and monumental projects in the SE, predominantly Atlanta.
I know better.
I like you, have spent some years watching things get taken down, with explosives, in the civilian applications.
Dont sweat it, you wont convince this type of poster, that they might be wrong. Kenji is quite special that way, seen this before. He isnt new, nor am I.
I choose to let him and some others think that a steel framed buildings, with grade A steel I might add, with tens of thousands of connections, can all disconnect in seconds, and fall straight into the ground, all 3 of them, in piles that are congruent with their sizes.
( 7 was a classic, and Ill call BS on his experience level, with engineering, because anyone Ive ever worked with and talked to, saw a classic implosion. Kenji and his ilk can think what they please. )
I dont do pretend world. They can have at er.
Except you are incorrect about my knowledge of materials and buildings.
In fact, you are also incorrect about every assumption on this one.
You seem quite sure of yourself, insulting yet another poster.
Spent most of my adult life in construction. My knowledge base of engineering and metal structures spans 20 years. Your insults dont make that go away.
In the interest of not insulting you, as you did me, Ill leave it there. I do possess a modicum of class and respect.
You on the other hand, not so much, Captain Expert Guy….
The physics of it, say you and your ilk are not up to the same standards as 1000’s of engineers and architects, who to this day, call BS on your opinion.
Of course, the GW Bush Admin would never, ever do something like that, now would they…
Some of his own cabinet, well, they didnt write about it at all either. Beforehand, nah, that never happened either.
( PNAC, what a coincidence…..hmmmm.)
“Sadly you know nothing of metallurgy, structural engineering, inertia, and a host of other high level thinking skills.”
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The rules here, as you already know, long time poster, say to not insult others but just make your points. But since you threw the first punch and I hate seeing someone get sucker punched, I’ll step in here and ask:
“Enlighten us with your superior thinking and knowledge, Oh Obi Wan, of metallurgy, structural engineering, inertia, and the host of other information you possess!”
Seriously. Engineering degree at what school? Metallurgy studies where? Architect degree and specialty with architecture? Steel frame high rise construction experience?
Lastly, with your superior intellect, explain how TWO, 110 STORY buildings collapsed onto their own footprints with negligible damage to adjacent buildings?
Finally, note the uniform, same size, horizontal puffs of smoke along the exterior vertical corner of the building, which precede the collapse of immediately overhead floors. What are those puffs of smoke from? Are penquins smoking in the building?
No and no. Those are cutter charges.
Good lord.
Engineering degree at what school? Metallurgy studies where? Architect degree and specialty with architecture? Steel frame high rise construction experience?
UC Berkeley … I was taught by both Egor Popov an Engineering GENIUS and the GENIUS inventor of pre-stressed and post-tension concrete: T.Y. Lin
But I won’t tell you what my profession is … as I don’t want to reveal too much about myself … but suffice to say … it is highly relevant to the questions about whether I am “qualified” to render the opinions (facts really) that I do.
And high rise structure experience? Yeah … LOTS. Enough to know that the structural system of the WTC was utterly unique. The curtain wall was a primary structural element and the floor framing system was comprised of extremely lightweight, long-span floor trusses. This structural system was chosen for its speed of erection … and the Towers were built very fast. But that floor system is not very robust … and when the steel trusses finally gave way (at the minimal connections to more robust structural steel) … the building just pancaked … 110 floors pancaking … with each floor adding to the pancaked weight … accelerated by the 20 or so stories above the failure floors.
Where else is the building going to collapse … except within a zone of its own footprint. Funny you people cite that as suspicious … when in fact if the collapse was spread greater than that … it might imply explosive forces.
I am a natural skeptic … but I’m not STUPID … and I examine things from all available information and make an intelligent, informed opinion. Based on science … and reality.
“Enough to know that the structural system of the WTC was utterly unique. The curtain wall was a primary structural element and the floor framing system was comprised of extremely lightweight, long-span floor trusses. This structural system was chosen for its speed of erection…”
Absolutely correct.
A Boeing 777 carry’s up to nearly 50,000 pounds of jet fuel (kerosene). Imagine what 50,000 pounds of fuel pouring down through the building and on fire might do…
No imagination required, we saw what it will do in real time.
I think so too. No way that 5000 missiles could be could be launched into Israel proper from Gaza… and no one knew or saw it … + trucks and parachuters… and hostages being removed from Israel to Gaza on golf carts. Mossad has NO spies in Gaza? Of course they do.
What specifically do “they” need Iran for….how does it play into OWG…Aren’t they vulnerable as well.. in other words the monster would not think twice about targeting them.
Iran is big, with a big army, and Palestine is a wee baby in comparison. Iran needs to be controlled, because Iran wants to join BRICS.
Its always about money. ALWAYS
So i guess in Iran they must get “Hogans Heros” since they are using the
Sgt. Schultz defense.
I’m a conspiracy theorist and this time I think even you, Sundance, are missing it. It is very plausible for Iran not to have known under my conspiracy theory. No, it’s not Putin. It’s bad though. Bad enough for me to just request you think a little more and look a little deeper into the history of ME groups. Who was behind Israel sending weapons to Azerbaijan recently? I think if you dive into the weeds of these two things, you might get horrified at what you find and come to my conclusion.
I can tell you that EVERYONE is lying right now. That’s for sure.
EVERYONE
Instead of spinning riddles, george, why don’tcha just tell us?
thx in advance
Sorry, but like BoboftheNorth, george admitted lying to us.
They both also accused all of us of lying.
Both of those are subsets of saying ‘Everyone is Lying’.
Would like to read your take on the situation.
Its becoming increasingly hard to speak of Israel without being branded an antisemitic, or other.
Truth, is truth, I don’t care what the skin color, or religion.
All I will say is it is weird that people who just want to ask questions, not because they have an agenda at all, but to try to capture and understand as much as they can and think critically, can be lambasted by so many because they don’t simply fall in line with whatever the other person believes, whether it be blindly without any thought or after their own deliberation. I’m pretty sure this is one of biggest problems of the human race and what leads to so much suffering in the world. That, and greed. Oh well… I do my best, but certainly slip up too. I just try to get better each day and do what I can to get right with God.
“I’m with the Government and I’m here to help.”
“Safe and effective.”
“We have intelligence…”
I’m waiting for the former CIA an IC types to take out a full page ad in the NYT to say it ain’t so …
They have lost all credibility. It is clear that this is exactly what Obama/Biden team want. They want Israel destroyed and Iran in charge of the Middle East. When you see people being dragged out of their homes and massacred, you are seeing exactly what Obama had in mind all along.
Obama has always wanted to empower Iran because by giving a nuclear bomb to a country that hates Jews, he normalizes Jew Hatred.
The goal is to make Jews second class citizens here and destroy Israel abroad. Jews who support Democrats are left having to pledge allegiance to a country that wants them destroyed. That is the perverse goal of the Obama/Biden/ Jarret group.
Reports are coming in that US tanks are found being used by Hamas. The could have come from Afghanistan. Maybe Zelenskyy bought them with money from the US, and then sold them to Iran, maybe Iran bought them with money from the US.
Iran is the ONLY country that Hamas has to supply it with weapons. Hamas gets monetary support from Qatar but weapons only from Iran.
The people in charge of our government are evil. They wanted this war. They gave Iran enough money to buy all the weapons Hamas and Hezbollah would need.
I have a slightly different take… I think this is less to do with “dancing with the devil” then domestic political cover for the $6 billion on deposit in Qatar offering collateral for the loan they took out and sent to Hamas (and Hezbollah soon??)
How do you really know the Iranian government knew about the attack in advance? What’s the smoking gun evidence? For my part, I can’t say I really know anything about what’s going on in Israel right now. I know that pretty much everything we’ve been fed about the war in Ukraine is bullshit, so I’m entirely open to the possibility that anything and everything we’re hearing about this conflict is bullshit too.
“I’m entirely open to the possibility that anything and everything we’re hearing about this conflict is bullshit too”
That’s where all the smart money is.
The US State Dept. is doing Iran’s bidding not because they’re worried about Hezbollah, they are doing it because they are, and have been for decades, in cahoots with them. What the hell do you think the pallets of cash were about. Peter Strock was #3 in the FBI, but never went to the FBI Academy, and grew up in Iran and speaks Farsi. I won’t tell you where Lisa Page’s mom was from, I’ll let you look it up….
They, Obiden etc. are exploiting and exacerbating the situation with the age old ethnic differences (which they care little about) because OIL.
They are simply picking up where they left off, in 2016.
Use WAR, regime change etc. to disrupt oil production, in order to force their GND Bullshirt, because there is no way the World will willingly wean of of Carbon based energy.
They are INSANE.
“the intelligence is all political.”
Corrupt cnn or the corrupt state department, which of the two is believable?? Neither. It’s a matter of height, which stacks the BS higher.
they thought Hamas was too busy producing something useful for the world to use
Meanwhile, Hamas bragged that Iran helped plan it, and greenlighted it…..
But the intelligence community is going to protect Biden at all costs for the $6 Billion.
And one of those costs is…..The Truth.
For crying out loud! Hamas leadership is on video thanking Iran for their support! Everyone KNOWS that Iran funds and supplies Hamas and Hezbollah (and the Houthis) – so why do they want us to believe they weren’t directly involved with this massive operation?
Do they think we are stupid?
So sick of all the lies and propaganda.
Why, yes, of course they think we are stupid. Look at how they address us on a daily basis.
But to be fair to them- look around and see how many people believe a man is a woman, a woman is a man, and can define neither. Just to be fair- there are a lot of fools.
“Everyone KNOWS” may be a little overstated. For decades Israel has funded Hamas. Of course they would blame Iran. Netanyahu has been on record numerous times stating the need for Hamas was to weaken the PLO and that a divided Palestine was easier to control. Ron Paul explained it to congress many years ago. Hope that helps with your first question. I won’t touch your second question.
Remember Bagdag Bob?
Same thing, and a common route of tyranists everywhere,..aka “WHAT you gonna believe,…me or your own lieing eyes?”
What … if … Hamas instigated this war … just so Iran would have a pretense to test drive their first Nuclear warheads? You know … the ones that Obama, Jarrett, and John F. Kerry helped Iran develop?
Possible, but unlikely IMO. Israel isn’t going down without a fight, and if it comes to throwing nukes back and forth (Heaven forbid!), Iran loses bigly.
Allahu Akhbar … they’re all martyrs and get 99 virgins. What do the Mullahs care about life?
Fair point, but I’m not convinced the mullahs aren’t a little more pragmatic than that. If they aren’t, then they don’t need a pretense to test their nukes.
Don’t they believe in some end time Armageddon ? They might just want to instigate the Nuclear conflagration that would send the Nukes flying. “Look what I did, Allah”. You’re still thinking like a Westerner, who cherishes our abundant, cushy lives.
THAT is cleverly cooked bullshit.
The deluded, brainwashed useful idiots that they manipulate into actually carrying out suicide attacks, actually believe that crap.
But, another of the many parralels between islamism and conmunism is the guysat the top, all know it is bullshit.
The mullahs have no illusions, or dreams involving virgins.
They do, however believe in a One World Caliphate, and having 80 million Iranian Shiites vaporised, doesn’t exactly forward that goal.
Especially since shite is the minority, sunni the majority, and almost all shiites are in Iran.
So, turn iran into a glass parking lot, and the shiite faction is extinct.
Then we’re probably all gonna die. Better get to confession quick.
Well, we are all going to die – eventually. Some sooner, some later. We just don’t have God’s timeline.
Hamas is an integral part of Iran’s “unity of resistance fronts” construct against Israel, which was on full display during the May 2021 round of fighting between Israel and Hamas.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-742496
It’s plausible that Iran may not have known the exact date and time of the latest Hamas attack, but Iran has long supported Hamas, which has an armed presence in southern Lebanon under the protection of Hezbollah.
Iran stands to lose face if Israel grinds down Hamas and Iran’s leaders do nothing more than greenlight a few pinprick attacks along Israel’s northern border and the lobbing of a few shells from Syria into the Israeli Golan.
If the number and intensity of Hezbollah attacks increase, then that would reveal Iran’s willingness to test Biden’s resolve to back Israel’s war in Gaza to victory.
Well hell. Everyone knows there IS NO EVIDENCE. . . . !!!!
John Kirby ties himself in knots to avoid saying Iran was involved in the attack on Israel – Twitchy
I think Kirby’s a bit twitchy hisself
His little toe, left foot only for $500, Alex.
“What part of Kirby ISN’T “twitchy”?
What concerns me about this “report” is that it talks about the Hamas “operations” as if it’s over, as if Israel isn’t due their payback on those bastards. I read reporting earlier today that there’s been some chatter about truce, ceasefire, etc.
Wrong.
If this savagery isn’t proof that Israel needs to take off the gloves and destroy Hamas and probably Hezbolla, too, I don’t know what is.
Who believes those US carrier battle groups are over there to support the Israelis? I think they’re over there to threaten the Israelis and force them to back down.
Can we stop pretending BS isn’t BS? The US government is so corrupt it’s in as delusional state as the Demented Fraud himself. I’m sorry but if citizens of the nation are stupid enough to buy any of this Iran didn’t know BS, there’s little hope left for any of them. We’re not only at odds with our own corrupt abusive government, half the nation is asking for more abuse. Some call dim people sheep. At least sheep are smart enough to know a wolf represents a threat to them. No wonder the corrupt US government sees us as a threat. We don’t buy their bullshit, they know we know.
Yes, I’m sure the attack came from a wet market in Wuhan. There was no lab. There was no gain of function research done in the lab that had nothing to do with the wet market where the attack actually came from. Nope. I’m pretty sure 81 million explanations exist to back this up. I’m going back to my default position of praying for the Israelis. Thank you, Sundance, for laying this out so eloquently. You are a gift of light in the darkness overtaking our world.
I like your post, it has a tone of truth which reaches many others on this site. Thank you for sharing!
Then you will be praying for the remnant.
What does that mean
Biden’S Afganistan weapon “come and get it” helped. Now Iran can free up money tied up in humanitarian use since Biden freed up that 6 mill.
Heard on
Salem News Network that Zelensky is out with his tin cup cuz he needs more money from Biden for
their war..
Zalensky won’t shut up won’t take the hint,..so they will wait till our eyes are all on the next “verge of WW3!” and then quietly retire Zalenski, one way or the other.
Zelensky will be “offed” and the Russians will be blamed. CIA knows how to blame Russia. They have practiced that script for over 50 years now.
The IDF has already stated Iran is behind the attack and will pay the price for it. Sorry to burst your bubble, CNN.
So if I understand this correctly, US intelligence had no idea this would happen, but is fairly certain Iran had nothing to do with it. And our “speak truth to power” journalists see nothing contradictory in this pair of statements!
CNN propagandists are not paid to think, only recite what is handed to them. That is how you get invited to the WH Press Gala…..which by the way should never have been a thing.
Total garbage BS. Biden owns this. Funding Iran and Iran funded Hamas and was completely in the on planning and execution of the attack. This is the same BS they tried to pull with the laptop.
Behind Biden is Obama and behind him are the democrats and behind them are the republicans too, in my opinion.
In the game “what’s in it for me?” you might be truly surprised of those names and organizations!
Yup sure reads like…
A man who tells lies, like me, merely hides the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it.
Awful lotta cheerleaders for more war in the Middle East out there that ought to know better. Count me out. I do not support war against Iran right now. And I refuse to be manipulated by the people in charge. I saw through the Covid bs. I saw through the Ukraine bs. This is an attempt to get us involved in yet another neverending war and maybe even an attempt to start WWIII. I’m not playing this stupid game anymore.
Don’t spoil the fun! Its all going to plan. Even BLM are back out on the streets. How many more days do you reckon before their outrage ignites cities? I think may be this weekend, and then curfews, lock downs etc
Yep, all going to plan.
I am a big fan of CTH. However, this post is worthless.
There is no upside to being goaded into an attack on Iran.
At the age of 75 I have watched the Party of Venice/City of London for enough years to know thier MO.
You should know then that Sundance is about the truth whether we like it or not.
George,
I think you misread Sundances article.
He isn’t cheerleading for war with Iran, he is just speaking truth, and calling “bullshit” cause the Truth has no agenda, and bullshit ALWAYS does!
I agree! If this attack on Israel was a false flag which it increasingly looks like then it was done deliberately to instigate a war with Iran. Biden and the Neocons need to be bailed out of the Ukrainian disaster they started. Iran is the exit ramp. Don’t fall for the trap!
One thing you can be certain. When Iran has the bomb, Israel will know the hard way. We might learn the same way at the same time.
Would it surprise anyone if we learned that BLM and ANTIFA have also been trained in Iran and by Iran?
Or by people sent over here who came up through Mexico on humanitarian grounds (victims of course!)…
yes, only because it seems like anytime groups are formed that destabilise, the U.S. is the sponsor; ISIS, Al Quada, Azoz, etc.
Nope, the IRA trained in the ME
Our intelligence Community is just as believable as the Biden administration. Some advice for Israel believe nothing, if it is coming from Biden/Obama administration.
CTH – “intelligence is manipulated to create a structure of usefulness to the Nuland, Biden, Obama, Haines diplomatic effort to support Iran.”
Qatar provided the money to “Muslim Brotherhood”
Qatar hosts the headquarters of the U.S. Central Command and about 10,000 U.S. troops. It has provided crucial assistance in the U.S. evacuation of civilians from Afghanistan and has managed U.S. interests there since the American withdrawal, as well as playing a key role in other areas of U.S. concern, including Iran and Palestinian issues.
Doha has never been shy about pointing out that it has been a dependable U.S. partner. “Our relationship with the United States has been strong for a long time,” proving it “can help, support, share views and deliver,” said a senior Qatari official, one of several from both countries who spoke about the visit.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/01/31/qatar-ukraine-natural-gas-europe/
Bibi should read here
And with the middle east safely destabilized, I guess the end of BRICS
Not if they win.
Only if the Saudis fall for it, and I don’t see that happening.
CNN liar, liar pants on fire!!!
Qatar “share views and deliver”. Got It! Biden/Obama administration is a” U.S. partner”!
Liars gonna lie.
Stuff like this reminds of how the “intelligence” about Iran’s nuclear capability would flip depending on whose agenda it affected. When the neocons ruled the roost in the Bush years, Iran was always “a few months away” from having the bomb.
https://gellerreport.com/2023/10/watch-hamas-terrorist-admit-true-motive-for-kidnapping-babies-and-children-to-rape-them.html/
Battered Conservative . . . no more . . .
Battered Americans . . . no more!
This is where the rubber meets the road, to borrow an expression made famous by Harvey Firestone . . .
when Americans who weren’t even paying much attention saw the news about those dear innocent babies and their parents and grandmas and grandpas watching before they too were murdered . . . the last thing they saw . . .
then they conflate that with babies being subjected to abortion as well- how is that any different – and they say “We don’t want to be a party to that, either . . . dear God help us, please stop these Holocausts all around!”
The mainstream news media, the Biden Administration and all those fools out there supporting Hamas and other terrorists are all that bummy guy who tells you not to believe your lying eyes, you did not see what you saw, you need to believe us.
Too late, suckers.
How d’ya say that in Latin, the die is cast?
That’s why people need to stop being quiet. Stand up. Speak out. I mentioned this on another thread- any Treeper that hears anyone defending Hamas, call them out as savages too. Make fun of them. Laugh at them. Stop being afraid to speak up. You (not you directly suejeanne, you as a generality) want to see true fear- look in the eyes of those being murdrered, raped, kidnapped while being filmed by Hamas savages. Speaking up is easy- if you are not yet, then start. Start contributing to turning this around.
Spot on suejeanne.
What if Iran was directly involved. Would the US Congress declare war on Iran and send in the troops?
I remember Rush saying he was afraid that if Iran attacked, Obama would surrender.
Rush isn’t around any longer, but Obama and Iran are.
Incidentally, the last Constitutional Declaration of War occurred on June 4, 1942 and was against Bulgaria, Hungary, and Rumania. Every single war since, from Korea to Syria, has been a “peacekeeping mission.”
keeler, I knew about the last actual declaration of war. I am curious whether the US would attack Iran without a declaration? I doubt it myself, which is one reason Biden et al. don’t want to push too hard on the “they knew” business. At least what is going on now pushed Ukraine out of the news and gave us an off ramp.
The Obama/Biden neo-cons are pro-Iranian.
The Bush neo-cons are anti-Iranian.
Short of a deal being worked out between them, I suspect the Obama/Biden team will work to prevent a conflict with Iran. It may see the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as a Ukrainian offramp and a distraction, but its foreign policy targets remain Russian/Ukraine and China/Taiwan.
What troops? Don’t they have pronouns now? They may not like being called a troop!
Only if they can vote on it behind closed doors with secret ballots.
How will ya’ll celebrate Friday, October 13th – Global National Jihad Day! Announced today by some Hamas supporting leader. Be interesting to see if anything happens.
CNN – The United States has collected specific intelligence that suggests senior
Iranian[United States] government officials were caught by surprise by Saturday’s bloody attack on Israel by Hamas, according to multiple sources familiar with the intelligence.The existence of the intelligence has cast doubt on the idea that
Iran[the United States] was directly involved in the planning, resourcing or approving of the operation, sources said.Seems to me one could almost say the same thing about the American State Department … now discussing itself.
CNN. Say no more. Please.
So Sundance, who feeds Fox News their propaganda talking points?
RINOs.
who owned it
Paul RINO, so that gives you a good hint, is “in charge”.
Al Jazeera who is the Intel gathering pseudo journalist org from that area.
Isn’t Al Jazeera the media corp that Al Gore sold for millions (to the Middle East) when at the time Gore was lecturing and lying to the American public about how bad the Middle East was to gain the support of the people for the war he and bush started?
CIA
The military Industrial Complex, owned and operated by the banks.
From what I’ve read over the years, is that the CIA sends out a 4am “talking points” memo. It’s just what I’ve read numerous times over the years. One thing is, you sure know when MSM has got them. All of them parrotting pretty well word for word. Over and over and over
CUT THE CORD
CUT THE CORD
CUT THE CORD
K Street
Can not tolerate her what a witch
She is not the source, but the conduit. You can watch her being used when she interviews any senior leader during a “crisis” and they know that she is the one to “dump a cover for action” story to. It will get big play, she’ll get repetitive air time, etc. She stood on a hill over Ramstein AB lapping up Thoroughly Modern Milley like an Alpo commercial, briefing her on how Afghan refugees were being triple-vetted before entry by the “crack teams” from various agencies. (They were so vetted that they brought small pox to America.)