Caroline Glick provides a somber rundown of what has happened in Israel, and starting at 06:00 of the video below, shares some pragmatic thoughts on the meaning of the war and the only way that it can end with Israel and its people safe.
Given the nature of what has been happening in Israeli politics, and the coordination Saturday in the Hamas attack, as Mrs. Glick aptly notes, all prior metrics for a regional Israeli control and defend policy has failed.
In very somber tones, Caroline Glick deconstructs the pretending model and cuts to the heart of the issue. Regardless of diplomatic costs, the strategic killing of every element of Hamas must begin immediately, with extreme prejudice and without regard for collateral damage. WATCH (Prompted):
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(Via Daily Mail) – The Hamas gunmen who launched an unprecedented surprise attack on Israel have taken babies and elderly women hostage, according to former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.
Bennett revealed the sickening details of the ongoing assault in an interview with CNN on Saturday night, as running gun battles continued in the streets of Israel more than 24 hours after the assault began. (more)
Not sure I agree with her approach. Killing all of Hamas will result in another group taking its place. Let’s get to the heart of the matter here. Who FUNDS and ARMS these groups. These groups are as strong as the “invisible hands” allow them to be. THOSE are the people who need to be wiped off the earth.
Joe Biden!
Barack Obama!
United States Congress and Senate!
The Mossad and the CIA and Joe Biden.
Add to that the deep state military industrial complex which apparently is filled with corrupt compromised individuals.
Gee…..what do think might have become of the 6 billion that Biden just sent over to Iran? Sometimes…more often than not….you must cut the head of the snake off! Then you can follow the money back to where it came from. I wonder if you would feel the same way if it was us that was attacked. Unfortunately, there are times you MUST decimate the enemy! It sends a clear message to others who may think about doing the same! Wow…what a concept…maybe we could do that in our justice system instead of letting criminals out to wreak more havoc! We know where that money has come from….Soros and the likes…but what good has that done? Soros walks free, the DA’S do as they please and the criminals go out and DO IT AGAIN! Until of course…they run into someone who has a gun and puts an end to it!
…and is “Hamas” [aka The Moslem Brotherhood, aka ISIS/ISIL] on the “terrorist state/org” list and being sanctioned? FJRB, Jr…
It was used to buy some of the $85 of military stuff that uncle joe gave away at the lost airfield. Joe gets a double whammy against US taxpayers that way.
Whoops that should have been $85 billion
Triple whammy …… Arms given to Ukraine by the Biden / Obama administration found their way to Hamas as well.
Soros and his b*stard son must be ‘neutralized’.
YOU WANT IT STOPPED??? VOTE! CONVINCE THE MISLEAD TO WAKE THE HELL UP!!!!
Sorry David Hans, My response came across as anger toward you. It was nothing of the sort. Just overwhelming disgust, sorrow and anger for the present situation that we find our selves in…..
How do we do that since the Obama’s three administrations (No.1, 2,& 3 via Biden) were instrumental in giving aid and comfort to Israel’s enemies and actively thwarting Israel’s responses?
Maybe gather up…nope, can’t yet do that in America.
(You know who I am thinking about, don’t you? Yes, you do!)
Amen to that.
There is no “radical” Islam – just Islam.
All of the above is true.
Agreed,,,, but,,,, you cut off their money and this goes down to home made pipe bombs and suicide bombers. Bad enough indeed, but until we get the Bribem Administration (Obama’s boy), out of power, the risk of starting a major war is just to great to eradicate this muslim scum right now. You can bet the farm that Bribem will throw Israel under the bus no matter what the lying SOB says.
I predict that if we get into an all out war that Joe Bribem will surrender. You heard it hear. Nothing is too audacious or sleazy for this bunch of trash.
Moderate Muslims would not personally cut your infidel head off but they support those who would.
What is a “Moderate Muslim”? Do you know what taquiyya is?
Yes, lying is acceptable to further the cause of Islam.
And that’s no taqiyya.
Lulu: Yup.
I agree but that should be secondary
Look at her background/bio. It’s interesting in good and bad ways.
Cool littler sidebar: I went online Amazon books this morning to look at the comments for a book Glick contributed to War Footing. This and another book with the same title popped up. When selecting either of the books a warning loaded that technical difficulties prevented the usual descriptor page from being accessed. Fast forward a couple hours to now: just ran the same search – nothing returned with War Footing search terms, empty search results! No luck with Caroline Glick search either in respect to this particular book.
Bigger picture: there is something going on here that extends way beyond what is happening in Israel.
Not sure I understand what one has to do with the other, or the point you are trying to make. Caroline made succinct points, which she backed.up with evidence. Do you have anything that refutes the points she made?!
Hence, cool “sidebar”…Some video is slapped on with no background information? Hence, search for Glick bio/history, beliefs, actions, associations.
Have you been in that part of the world? No way the scale, logistics and planning for this operation happened without support from elsewhere. No way this operation takes place without being detected either through intelligence or as it begins execution. No way, if the number are correct, 5000 missiles make it to Gaza without intel knowing about it.
No way, IMO, that there are not other actions going on covertly elsewhere (the real objectives) intended to be masked by the crass viciousness and morally unacceptable actions of HAMAS.
I thought she covered that with the suggestion of cyber warefare on their missle defence system. Not saying you are wromg about some of your suspicions just that Caroline makes valid points which you do not address other than casting some sort of vague aspersions on her.
I’m not sure what you mean Phillip…please describe your thoughts a bit clearer. Thank you!
Hello Roe!
Through the lens I wear, the ferocity and scale of what is happening – and the triggers that did not fire – lead me to believe that this was planned a long time ago, that external entities are part of the script, that there are complicit players on all sides who acquiesced in this immoral slaughter…and that in the end, given the MO of most global actors these days, there are other actions being taken elsewhere this is intended to mask.
Please elaborate. Is this part of a neocon script to start their war with Iran?
Yea, everything was in place. They were just waiting for barry’s bagboy to show up with the, $$.
Well, a lot of just everyday people in this country are sick and tired of their hardearned $$ being wasted in that corrupt, congressional money laundering, hellhole Ukraine, so the military industrial complex is worried that their honeypot is drying up. So,voila! A brand spanking new war. And the cherry on top is that it a war that every conservative will gladly get behind in a New York minute.
Now, I could be wrong, but to be perfectly honest, I’m mostly right, but I think old barry’s boys took that Iranian money (and probably some extra) over there to the ME and bought themselves a war against Israel.
Think about it. It covers all their bases, spends all our resources and these devils hate Israel.
And . . . that could be the bigger picture.
and 2024 taxes just went up
President Trump’s tax cuts expired
Yep. Looks like the standard deduction that was doubled under Trump will go back to what it was for 2024.
I have no argument with your primary assertion.
My only caveat is before going half-baked on “kill em, kill em all” (certainly the moral context leads one in this direction..again no argument)…find out all the details. Nothing in Excess.
Oh, I don’t think we should go to war at all. How much more young,
American blood do the sands of the ME require of us? And with these devils that are in charge of our military right now who are writing the rules of engagement? No thank you. Plus, no insult insult to Israel intended, but don’t we send them $$$Billions every year? Do we now have to send, at the very least, our Navy and Air Force to save them? Why? Did they need more $ or did our very own government set them up, which is the only way they were blindsided. Right?
So, why tf are we sending help? Ah . . . Now that is the $6 Billion question isn’t it?
Because the globalists, nwo, our betters, the military industrial complex need a war. (See above)
Whatever they’re planning is not going to help the US when all and said and done because nothing good has happened to this country since the the fjb.
Let me also state that I am not anti-war. I just believe you go to war to protect your country or your allies. Israel is our ally for sure, but this bunch of nazis in charge hate them.
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I can’t account for your lack of insight in this matter.
Contact your military friends and Israeli friends you may have met back in the day. Or reprise what you saw sailing through the Suez Canal, walking past chop chop block, reading intel, etc., etc. That part of the world is unholy; eff’ing mess.
Know with as much certainty as possible who the real perpetrators are (not as easy as one might think) and what is really going on. The moral calculus is clear here. But the politics and players are not.
I can’t account for your lack of insight in this matter.
Contact your military friends and Israeli friends you may have met back in the day. Or reprise what you saw sailing through the Suez Canal, walking past chop chop block, reading intel, etc., etc. That part of the world is an unholy eff’ing mess. Look at the flip side vis what follows in terms of US support. To what level? With what ROE? With what degree of readiness? How does it connect to Ukraine…say, for example, tasking US Navy assets to protect/project in the Black Sea, Aegean Sea, Eastern Med, North Arabian Sea, Red Sea.
This board is spot on, IMO, in terms of the moral calculus. It’s wildly inconsistent with many other memes current here – one example being the trans, CRT, DEI military is poorly led and cannot execute competently. Might very well be the case. In that case, what’s the moral balance when it comes to putting those people serving at risk? The point is that this all has to be looked at through a very wide aperture. I do not believe all the “kill em now” threads have taken full scope of all the dimensions of what is taking place. Before putting people at risk and killing indiscriminately make sure all the risks are accounted for, the full scope of what is going on is understood, who the real perpetrators are. The actions taken will vary as this information clarifies.
Know with as much certainty as possible who the real perpetrators are (not as easy as one might think). The moral calculus is clear here. But the politics and players are not.
OBiden
BOTH !
Killing all of Hamas will result in another group taking its place.
Until those allowing them refuge refuse to do so due to the consequences they suffer when they do. Getting rid of those who fund and arm them means getting rid of most of the rest of the Middle East.
Yes, why ARE we continuing to allow them refuge here in the US and in Canada?
Kill them all. They are going to hell anyways.
We must wait for Armageddon for that one.
Despite knowing that cockroaches keep coming back we still spray and kill each infestation. And so…
Decades ago I had a talk with my father. We were discussing warfare in general.
His premise was that the USA had forgotten how to win wars. The Industrial Military Complex was discussed.
His motivation was to inform his only child since a successful war had not been waged in my lifetime.
The bottom line, you do not have peace until you utterly, unequivocally vanquish your enemies.
Think of the atrocities of WWII committed against civilians. You don’t make peace with those people. You obliterate them.
As with Germany and Japan, then you make peace.
A success peace is dependent on vanquishing the enemy.
Wise father you have there.
Yes, I miss him and our talks very much.
an example:
A thug with a gun enters your home illegally
and threatens your life and property
do you sit in a circle singing “kumbaya”,
asking him/her/them LOL what their issues
are that led them to threaten your life
or do you pull out your gun and shoot
them in the face, mass body area, etc.?
The answer is so simple unless one is
a liberal
I say, let the liberals think their way out
of their own mess
Someone enters your home, in the dark, illegally? You have no idea who they are – you’re in the dark.
Do you shoot them in the face? Or do you identify first?
The amount of mental gymnastics liberals attempt makes me exhausted.
I can tell you how a thug that entered my home illegally would be met.
Expecting someone to treat you logically or peacefully when they have breached your home in not reasonable to me.
So, let’s raise an age old problem, does vanquishing your enemies include torture to any degree if it advances the cause?
No. Torture is morally wrong. People will say anything to get torture to stop. Intel achieved through torture is unreliable. Trickery is acceptable.
Who funds Hamas? Probably the same people who funded and controlled Al-Qaeda and all the splinter groups that followed including ISIS and all the rebel groups used in all the regime change operations over the past few decades. It’s all a shell game to fool the good people in this world.
What did the attack on Pearl Harbor justify?
What did the attack on 9/11 justify?
What will this “attack” on Israel justify?
This will never end if the people are fooled again.
Our administration gave Iran 6 BILLION …Hamas has the weapons left behind in Afghanistan. I guess we in the US should be wiped off the face of the earth eh?
Some people right here in the USA ought to be wiped off the earth and most of them are in Washington DC.
“Anyone sentient (or with a retirement account) has to hope he is going to die before the SHTF. Last week economist and gold bug Peter Schiff looked at the US Debt clock out to 2027 – three years from now – where interest on the national debt, refinanced at today’s interest rates (8% 30 year mortgage anyone?) will take up $3 Trillion of the budget, plus the usual Trillion for defence, another Trillion for social security, another Trillion for medicare and that’s it folks.
Nothing else gets done. Nobody else gets paid. It’s over. Washington is a ghost town. Those buildings are turned over to the homeless flooding from every desperate, looted country in the world. And the cabal has gone underground. Gardens, chickens, guns and Dobermans for everyone else.
We are looking at a future of energy rationing and population control
Meanwhile every “democratic” government in the world is pitchforking money out the door to any interest group, manufactured crisis, and phony money-laundering war that comes across their desks, and anyone who mentions belt tightening is treated like a traitor to “democracy”. They are all on the Cloward-Piven Plan, bankrupt the world, chip, enslave and crack the whip. For “democracy”. Meat paste, insects and three new clothing items a year for you in your low-ceilinged bunker with tiny windows, “to save the planet”.
Where did all the money go? Why don’t we have real growth? Why, other than the digital revolution, has nothing budged? Why are we still burning fossil fuels like primitives? Why do three billion of us have no access to energy? Why are two billion living in endemic poverty? Why, in the first world are we endlessly scrapping over carbon emissions and extinctions? Why do we have no growth, no progress, just back and forth, a bit of growth, recession, over and over and over again? Having hope for the future is literally a spiritual discipline. Despair is far more realistic. Meanwhile, resources are being withdrawn, land, water, outbreaths limited, food ‘re-imagined’. Last week a study found that in the U.S., life expectancy is declining. Or as the Institute for New Economic Thinking put it: “America, Land of the Dying? Alarming Study Shows U.S. Killing Its Own Population”.
Well, as poor old Donald Rumsfeld said just before 911, “We can’t account for $2.3 Trillion in the Defence budget. It’s vanished, no one can account for it.” Then, boom, two planes hit the towers, three buildings fell down and no one thought about anything else for five years.
etc etc.
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Carthaginians and Huns beg to differ.
Where is the OUTRAGE from “world leaders” about the terrorism from such radical groups? If there was no safe haven for such bigotry, it would be a much better world for everyone.
You know it’s a deep state Psyop when Israel has its iron dome and soldiers unavailable (they literally have sensors and cameras everywhere) and then Nikki Haley, human meat puppet, declares this as an attack on America. They all want war, destruction, restrictions and war profits.
Nice half a-s backwards logic. When you have an immediate infestation, you kill everything first and then go after the source. With respect to today in Israel, there is a defined kill chain and everything in that chain needs to be utterly destroyed with extreme prejudice. It starts with those committed to and currently performing the heinous acts (where the situation is today) all the way up the chain to those involved with planning and providing the logistics, resources and funding of such an operation. It also includes and ancillary offshoots from this chain down to the roots of the mentality that even considered the feasibility of undertaking such action. Note, if any US citizens or those of other countries, including government and military personnel, were involved in any aspect of the terrorist action, then they also need to suffer extreme consequences. This is like an invasive plant. You lop off the top, dig out roots and then make the environment so adverse to survival that its seeds will never germinate again. That’s why Gaza needs to be utterly destroyed and all its inhabitants removed. Let the Palestinian loving NGOs and the such (other Arab countries) take them in.
Not mutually exclusive. They can do both. A strong message needs to be sent.
“THOSE are the people who need to be wiped off the earth.”
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Another group, or another person taking the place of whoever is killed has been an excuse for not following through for as long as I can remember. The fallacy of that logic is not recognizing that those who “will take their place” already exist and may simply be underground exercising their hate, and simply haven’t come to our attention.
Despite knowing that cockroaches keep coming back we still spray and kill each infestation. And so…
I respectfully disagree.
Gaza must suffer the fate of Dresden.
Then it must suffer the fate of Carthage. When the Romans took Carthage, they salted the land.
Then it must suffer the fate of being coated in hog grease.
While Israelis ring the West Bank and the Golan Heights and the border with Lebanon to keep the roaches in their holes.
There is no reason both cannot be achieved. If “Freedom to Protect and Defend” is the rally cry and done correctly these groups will certainly never occupy Gaza ever again!
Somber but real.
God have mercy on the innocent.
Wow. She has my total respect. This is what is happening in US as well. Wish someone here would be as candid as Caroline Glick.. before we have a similar tragedy
who would you eliminate in the US without regard to collateral damage?
Washington DC.
If God dropped a meteor on the modern day Soddom, obliterating the lobbyists, NGOs, and every corrupted department (particularly State and “Justice”) the state of the whole world would improve immeasurably.
Never thought I’d agree with that statement, but boy oh boy have times changed.
We absolutely have to identify psychopaths when they are young, particularly the so-called geniuses among these psychopaths, and we must ensure that these individuals who have no functioning consciences and have no innate inborn sense of authentic empathy and compassion never again reach positions of power and great wealth.
Seriously!
If we elevate the sadistic mutants to positions of power and influence, what do we expect to happen to our society and eventually to human civilization itself?
A great percentage of our modern day elites are atheistic self absorbed immoral psychopaths who literally enjoy hurting others, and furthermore they delusionally consider themselves to be oh so very superior to normal healthy average human beings whom they seriously consider to be peons, peasants, serfs and slaves. Moral standards apply to this “underclass” and not to them. These pseudo intellectuals with their high IQs must never again control the institutions upon which the rest of society depends.
We have been told, out loud, and often over the last few months who the left has in mind to eliminate. Similar to that of islam v the rest of us. They are serious. We are not even concerned. We are not paying attention. However, there is a remnant. As long as we sit around and pontificate on who to eliminate, and “collateral damage” we are frozen, ripe for suprises…lots of them! If we are serious we will do what needs to be done when it needs to be done. The west loves to pontificate in piousness and pompous attire as it pushes for the complete control over the masses…without any thought of collateral damage.
Collateral Damage.
THAT is the keyword for this period
There is about to be so great an amount of collateral damage among the entirely innocent and the good that I am astounded that most people are entirely oblivious as to the normal sequence of events quickly approaching us in the immediate future.
So many deaths.
So much carnage.
Pandemic level suicides.
Murderous mayhem.
It is just so obvious the the horrors unfolding in Israel will spread across many countries and it is so utterly unnecessary.
Nonetheless……
God’s will be done.
All unaccompanied military age illegal alien males to start.
ALL
We already have radical Muslims in our government, so it’s just a matter of time.
Remember Netanyahu immediately called to congratulate his pal Biden ? Stolen elections have grave consequences, Bibi.
Mr. Shattuck: I believe it’s protocol for one country’s leader to contact another when a new leader is elected (or installed, in some cases). Mr. Netanyahu was being polite. I don’t believe Mr. Netanyahu thinks Biden is a “pal”.
Please… it was embarrassing.
What’s embarrassing is that FJB actually *took* the oval office!! That’s on us, We The People.
It’s on an out-of-control intelligence community suppressing a scandal bigger than a thousand Watergates (Hunter’s laptop) and the clueless true believers and paid-off drones who cheated that grinning empty corpse the rest of the way in.
I disagree.
It is not on “We the People”
It was due to fraudulent election sabotage, both manual and digital and massive voter fraud AND it was part of the plan to awaken our snoozing republic as to the reality of the pure primal evil operative among our corrupt compromised blackmailed elites who apparently did their best to sell out America.
In my opinion, that ain’t, “We the People”
YMMV
Not even 3 days after …”election” ????? Nyx ????? BS Nyx……
Bibi didn’t have to be the first out of chute, though. After all that Trump did for Israel, Bibi should have had the decency to wait.
Israel then tried to jail Mr and Mrs Netanyahu. Absolutely nothing in the M.E. is clear.
The same worthless left that is stirring up all the trouble in the USA is responsible for it.
Did joey take the call? I don’t think he did, if I remember correctly.
It’s politics, a meaningless gesture to save favor.
We must pray for Israel and its people. Be aware and watchful. With so many men of military age who have crossed our border….I worry that an attack could happen here in America!
Nailed It !
Yes, we are suckers for something like that.
“Mike in a truck” has repeatedly been warning all of us of that very scenario for the coming election year.
And quite frankly, I’ve agreed with his assessment since the first time I saw him post it.
I guess the next CR bill will pass Congress with 150 Billion to Israel and an addendum will be added for 50 Billion to Ukraine…..The next speaker……..Jim ‘Theater’ Jordan will say he had no choice and didn’t want to shut government down during these ‘Trying Times’….. We’ve all seen this movie too many times….
No need to guess. That’s exactly what’s going to happen. The numbers might be the other way around, though.
Jimmy Air Jordan….
I’m so cynical now, that my mind goes to wild speculation thusly:
CIA helps induce Hammas fighters to launch a hopeless attack.
Israel obliterates gaza.
Iran intervenes with attack on israel in some way.
Deep state gets its excuse for a US war on Iran
Maybe if we re-elect President Trump we will see some precise missile strikes on those religious leaders of Iran, plus their political leaders…quietly, at night without any warning, with a 95% success rate. Right after I would expect Iran to have a civil war where those who love a theocracy/dictatorship versus a form of democracy sort it out amongst themselves.
I can dream…
We might find out whether Iran has a nuke. Let’s hope not.
Your comment about Iran and nukes made me think of something. Given the intelligence failure around this attack, the speculation is they, Israeli intelligence, knew it would happen and let it.
Why? No answer really makes sense.
The only thing I can come up with, and I am by no means justifying it here, is that maybe Iran is the end game. Israel sees the US pouring money into Iran. Iran is actively seeking a nuke and has sworn to wipe Israel off the map. Maybe Iran is very close to a nuke which means the total destruction of Israel.
To attack Iran preemptively would bring worldwide condemnation but tie Iran to this horrific attack by Hamas and Israel has a justification to go to war with Iran and the full support of all of Israel and much if the world. Kind of like how the entire US was united to go to war against the Taliban after 9/11. For the IC, wash, rinse, repeat.
Maybe in some twisted sense of IC logic the end justifies the means.
I can think of no other reason for knowing ahead of time that this attack was imminent and allowing it to happen. If they did let it happen, the punishment hasn’t been invented that the people responsible deserve.
Interesting.
And agree with last sentence.
A very astute analysis you have there.
“By way of deception shalt thou do war.”
When that happens, all bets are off. Biblical times will be upon us.
Somehow… before the election !
The deep state wants war with Iran ONLY so joey can surrender, IMHO. Biden and oblahblah love Iran, the do not want to destroy it nor does the “deep state”.
The CIA and the military industrial complex and the Deep State want Iran, Hamas, ISIS, al Qaeda, al Shabab and God only knows how many other groups they created, they want them to exist to ensure they continue to receive a constant stream of money and power
It’s futile for them
I believe that the White Hats intend to liberate the Iranian people.
Seriously.
There will be massive collateral damage, but Persia will reemerge as a civilized nation state in the long deep aftermath.
Praise God.
There you go.
Get Ready! Get ready, for the stage is set a spiritual show-down is about to take place in The Nations.
But Watch! For now I AM raising up a righteous Remnant who will rise and roar with a call for the Rebuilding and Restoration of the broken-down Altars in The Nations!
Listen! For a sound will begin to rise up from the ground of Prodigal Nations — a sound of weeping and wailing will once again be heard — as The Call to come to The Altar returns to the land!
Now, Watch and Pray, and pay close attention, for a Remnant — mantled with The Spirit of Elijah — is rising in The Nations, who will begin to roar causing Prodigal Nations to come back to its senses, a Nation that was lost will turn, shall return and be reformed!
Listen! Now is the time to repair and rebuild the torn-down Altars in this Nation!”
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“He, Watching Over Israel”
From the oratorio “Elijah”
Feliz Mendelssohn-Bartholdy
She proposes the ONLY solution that will work, i.e., total annihilation of the rabid animals who fomented and participated in this act. It is impossible to deal with or accommodate ideologies like those espoused by this act in a rational way, hence, you eradicate it. If this escalates into the prophecy laid out by Ezekiel 30-39, it’s over. Pray.
100% Old Dawg. 100%.
I have been studying the Conflicts of the area, today referred to Israel since first reading about the fighting in the late 1870’s as well as operations by Orde Wingate in the 1930’s that centered on the Kibbutze Wars/Battles through to today’s conflicts.
This one follows a very odd pattern that swings between a total surprise as in 1973 due to distracting strife inside the Israeli Government combined with the start of a major religious period … to elements of the Israeli actually inviting the attack because even in Israel there are parts of the Government that DO NOT LIKE the Abraham Accords.
The US has filthy hands on the this one as the financier and likely planner of the assault. Allot of talk has hit the media about the $6 Billion in the banks of Qatar but there have been many Billions more funneled DIRECTLY to the PLA/ISIS via:
US Aide to Palestine
UNESCO
UNICEF
Various very Rich (non-ruling) Elements of the Gulf States
The US Branch of the Muslim Brotherhood
The US State Department via other aid funds
The powers running the Gaza and West Bank Forces have publicly admitted in the past via Hamas that ALL “Humanitarian” aid is used for Military Purposes.
The US CIA created both the Taliban, ISIS and Muslim Brotherhood, the current US Regime continues Obama’s work by enabling the organization they have come.
The forces of the ISIS, Hamas, whatever you want to call them … have a military budget of well over $15-20 Billion Dollars from ALL sources … plus the Planning, INTEL and Support of the the US DHS.
Point being the actual enabling villain is the current Regime US, without a doubt, with the rest of the actual line up yet to be named.
Some things to keep in mind while the Russia-Russia card is pulled again:
NATO member Turkey has been a major transit point ad shipping source for the Gaza Strip. Turkey and Iran have become rather cozy lately.
Pariah Qatar is the banking intersection point for the Current US Regime and Terrorists.
Iran is the major backer of the attackers … a friend of the current US Regime and enemy of the GOVERNMENTS running the GCC. While they have a relationship with Russia … Iran makes it’s own decisions.
The people from other Gulf States backing this attack ARE NOT necessarily the same as the ruling parties.
While the bloodshed and battles from Israel fill the media …. keep in mind that it is NATO/EU Members and US that have sponsored and caused ALL the recent bloodshed in AFRICA, both political and so-called religious.
There are more moving pieces to this tragedy than Israel vs Hamas et al
How so?
Africa would be an idyllic paradise of peace if not for the West?
And Boko Haram is a creation of the West?
thedoc00: The borders and inherently unstable ethnic makeup of today’s Middle East are the result of some on-the-fly map drawing by Sykes and Picot. The US was late to the party, but has brought lots of booze and party favors to keep the fun going.
Israel’s worst enemy is probaby the US State Department, and now, Congress is also full of people with an inherited, visceral hatred of Israel. Congress also has a quite a few ignoramuses who think that “Free Palestine” has something to do with racial issues in the US.
yes..world very much changed since “election” 2020…….
What makes you say the CIA created ISIS, Taliban, MB?
You lost me there.
(The foundational documents of Islam are responsible for them, IMHO.)
ISIS was a construct by our IC to keep intercine violence going in Iraq until Obama/Hillary could funnel weapons out of Libya to supply them for use in Syria. Think Trump saying he destroyed ISIS quickly.
MB was being funded by is in Obama Administration also. Think Egyptian color revolution for one when they overthrew government and military had to step in and put them down. MB funded out of Qatar with our money.
Taliban was created and funded by CIA when Russians invaded Afghanistan in 1980s. Think movie Charlie Wilson’s War.
“Look, I AM turning the eyes of all nations upon the nation of Israel in this hour and season. Watch, for a holy remnant is rising from the ashes. Watch!
For Israel shall now become a glorious sign and wonder of My restoration, redemption and revival to the nations of the earth. Watch, as My cleansing fire now burns, burns, burns!
Watch, as My spirit moves swiftly across the land, for I AM an all consuming fire and My promise to rebuild the city, restore the people and bring judgement upon the enemies of Israel shall now come to pass,” says God.
But I say to you, “Watch and Listen!” For just as I said to My Prophet Ezekiel, so now I say to My Prophet Benjamin Netanyahu — son of man, go now to The House of Israel and speak My Words to them.
For you are not being sent to a people of obscure speech and difficult language, but to The House of Israel.
Not to many peoples of obscure speech and difficult language, whose words you cannot understand!
Surely if I had sent you to them, they would have listened to you. But The House of Israel is not willing to listen to you, because they are not willing to listen to Me, for the whole House of Israel is hardened and obstinate.
But I will make you as unyielding and hardened as they are. I will make your forehead like the hardest stone, harder than flint.
Do not be afraid of them or terrified by them, though they are a rebellious house!”
What’s the point of the hostages I wonder.
Humiliation and bargaining chips
They are placing them in locations that Israel is likely to destroy…
For the young girls…sex slaves of course, sadly. Perhaps beheading videos will become the norm…again, sadly.
It’s just the way of the Muslim. Having read Defenders of the West – great read BTW – this is the same as it ever was. Plunder, slaves, ransom, buggery, decapitation, killing – lots and lots of killing, humiliation, just ask Vlad the Impaler. The bigger issue is whether the other muslims will answer the call as Hamas is reduced.
iwasthere: The behavior of Hamas is exactly the same behavior of the Algerian muslims during that country’s long struggle with the French, during the 1950s and early 1960s. It’s the muslim way of war. Always has been.
They will be held at the military locations as protection from the coming bombs.
In exchange for either large ransoms, or in exchange for the prison release of jihadists in numerous countries.
It’s also to psychologically terrorize the Israeli public
How many 5th column terrorists have entered the USA in the last 3 years?
If we make a move to help Israel will they be given the green light to attack us?
Drone warfare is game changer in modern warfare and Iran is an expert at making them. I can only imagine the damage they could inflict on USA with Biden, Garland, Austin, and Wray defending the homeland.
I don’t think Biden, Garland, Austin, Wray nor the former JC Milley want to defend your and my homeland…seriously!
To put this into perspective and the numbers will rise much more:
The number just reported of dead Israelis would equate to 12 500 dead Americans on nine eleven
not 2 977 i.e. already over four times the number.
A major contributory factor has been progressive liberal policies,
policies that President Biden and his government have been pushing.
What can possibly go wrong?
I still don’t understand why so many American Jews still support the Democrat Party, a party that facilitates the dissolution of our own borders, aids in the utter decay of our own cities and finances these endless wars. If they really wanted peace in the Middle East they wouldn’t support the party that betrays them time and time again. Make it make sense.
Goes back to the influx of Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe in the 19th century.
The socialists in U.S helped them assimilate and survive. Later, the progressive Democrat Party adopted the Socialist Party’s methods.
Flova: True, unfortunately. The history of the US labor movement is also intertwined with the history of Jewish immigrants, who brought socialist ideas and methods to the US, and were among the first to organize unions, such as the International Ladies Garment Workers Union. I am not saying this was “wrong.” It simply helps to explain why so many American Jews ended up on the left. Most of them don’t even know their own history, which is why they reject their own religion and view Zionism as an alien concept.
Exactly.
Because American Jew are not Jews, they are leftists (of the Jacoban school).
We know what Democrats represent, so the logical conclusion is that is what Jews who vote for them want, in other words communism. Just like other leftists in our country who vote Democrat they have all been seduced by the lie of forced equality for all, with no thought for how that is instituted or the horror of the results.
Because they ARE NO LONGER JEWS………..
THEY ARE “JEWS IN NAME ONLY” aka: JINO’s
STAND BY FOR RAM. WE ARE NEXT. As I listened to Caroline Glick I could easily see that the conditions are the same in the USA. I am a retired military officer and live near and and use the services of an active military base. It is clear that our military is demoralized. Dress, demeanor, and professionalism are down the tubes. Yesterday I went to the base and the slovenly dressed, unshaven, military security guard in uniform at the gate, just glanced at my ID, waived me through with no salute, have a nice day, kiss my ass, or anything. When I arrived at the commissary I noted a fat (at least 30 pounds overweight) slovenly dressed female soldier in uniform with a baby on her hip. I said to myself “No way can we win a war with this.” Tens of thousands of terrorist fighters are streaming across our borders and undoubtedly joining up with trained and organized domestic terrorist like Antifa. Antifa has managed to burn our cities and our intelligence and police forces cannot find out who they are. Caroline Glick talked about a complete intelligence failure that allowed Hamas to occupy Gaza —- NEWS FLASH!
ARM UP, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.
I thought the same thing when I listened to her
I too live near an active miliary base. Grandson recently promoted and we went to promotion ceremony on the base. The men and women were dressed well, all looked fit and fine. They paraded around together with military band, it was awesome – gave me chills.
The base, however, needed an uplift. Barrack (buildings) were shoddy in general as were some of the grounds.
So I’m hoping and praying that what you describe is not the norm! As for moral, can only speak for one and he just
re- enlisted. However, *arming* up is definitely GOOD ADVICE.
I noticed for at least the past month a lot of military planes flying low along the north shore of Lake Superior.
Duluth, at the tip of the great lake, is a hot spot to be bombed in the event of a war, since it is the largest inland seaport.
And just up the highway going north is the unguarded, open road leading into America from Canada. I was shocked seeing it unmanned last time I drove that way.
Mary: Thanks for providing some real-world commentary on the sorry state of America’s military. In the Navy, you see the same disturbing signs with all the rusty ships, due to overdeployment, undermanning, and contracting out of basic maintenance services. It’s disgraceful. Operational issues are another can of worms.
so it’s okay for israel to defend its borders, safeguard israeli supremacy and even advocate killing all its enemies? did israeli actions such as this have any bearing on palestinian anger?: https://www.newarab.com/news/over-800-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-compound-sukkot. i’m not buying american kneejerk support for israel anymore than i do for ukraine.
poppycock
Palestinians are always rabble rousing
causing trouble, war
I suspect Iran has always been their puppet strings
That stupid triumphal mosque shouldn’t be on the Temple in the first place.
I am not Jewish. I have simply read a fair amount about Islam.
Yeah, those Israelis should be tortured, murdered, raped, kidnapped and violently attacked for daring to enter a building on their own soil.
Ridiculous comparison.
substitute palestinian for israeli in your comment to arrive at some understanding is all that i ask.
she is a brilliant no nonsense woman
Iran needs to be taken out period!
The dictatorial totalitarian government of mullahs and their Republican Guard need to be neutralized.
The people of Iran have suffered for decades due to the CIA run Iranian Revolution
Powerful and sober analysis. Thanks sundance.
islam does not want nor intend to live peacefully with the infidels of the world. Read their own book. Israel needs to and will do what Israel has done in the past. The problem is the interference of those who are secretly funding and “allowing” the onslaught at various levels. This is not going away. It will end when Jesus Christ returns. We need to be paying attention, listening for the trumpet of God, be prepared, be wise, be smart and gird your faith.
Everywhere we now hear the usual calls that Israel’s response should be proportionate, making the eradication of Hamas impossible because they hide behind civilians.
Of course, everyone needs to realize that it was our “proportionate” response to the Nazis and Japanese that led to our victory in WWII. /s
They needed to change the narrative in the media cycle. Everything is going according to plan
SO …. the Deep State discovered we could not be sufficiently emotionally rooted in a never ending war in Ukraine. They are now changing the theater.
Israel will be a willing ally in this (what choice do they have ) The deep State was selling them down river for the last three years. This attack has all the marks of a CYA set up. “don’t worry Israel all our satellites are seeing is farmers in the olive groves working”.
Next up will be a tie in to Saudi and therefore Russia and the rest of BRICS. That way they can keep the progress they made convincing folks of the threat of the Kremlin. While moving the conflict to where we are pre- disposed to accept the drawn lines of good guys and bad guys in this conflict.
The tax dollars generated giving 100$ worth of rocket parts to one side, then selling a million dollars worth of missiles to counter each 100 dollar “gift”. The planes, the bombs, the artificial limbs, The facists globalists are wetting themselves in glee.
Do not misunderstand I hold Israel blameless in these attacks regardless of history. I want vengeance for the killing of innocents. My focus is inward, I am a 1933 Aryan machinist, watch the Reichstag burn, wondering why my Jewish friends are being singled out for hate. I ask myself what is my role here, how do I remove myself from the bowels of this machine.
F Them All, PRAY for Israel
Follow the money and hold those accountable for funding of the terrorists….starting with Biden, Obama….
Rapture on the horizon.
Heartbreaking. Beautifully spoken with deep sadness, but resolute, and clear eyed.
Observation: The conflict will bring out the worst and best in Americans. I have watched anti-Semitism grow in leaps and bounds here – something I thought was impossible until Obama.
The war of Gog and Magog could be upon the world. I don’t know.
God wins in the end.
But in the meantime, Lord help us, cover Your chosen children of Israel with Your powerful presence and smite their enemies dead. And if there are any among us who do not support and care for Your chosen people, let them fall into ruin. Amen.
Step one:
Leave 80+ bil. of military hardware in Afghanistan.
Step two:
Send money to the people who spew hate, with every breath.
6 bil. should do the trick!
Step three:
Wait a few weeks and watch the interested parties work their back-channels.
Step four:
Assault, mayhem, murder, and
horrific images that seed the imaginations of decent, God-fearing people
in an effort to terrorize them into submission.
Step Five:
The leftists and globalists find out that 80+ million Americans have large stockpiles of weapons and ammo and have been waiting for the day their homes and lives were threatened. They find out the kill ratio is invaders lose 5 to every one home owner
This was quick set up…what did the organizers know to have this event conveniently fall in place within @ 24-30 hours of attack.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/code-pink-endorses-hamas-attacks-israel-anti-war/
Ms Glicks ‘Final Solution’ sounds like the Iranian Mullahs – its not ‘somber’, measured thought, but radical emotional thought.
Maybe you should move to Israel, see for yourself (also visit Gaza, try to get a 100% perspective, ok…go to Iran, Lebanon, Syria, etc.) where I suspect you might present your thoughts in an “emotional manner” so to speak.
Behind Ms. Glick’s emotional words are thoughts, look for them, she spoke them, try listening again.
Bullish!t.
She’s talking about killing the killers.
The mullahs want to kill everyone who exists incorrectly according to their hideous worldview.
With the hustle in Ukraine somewhat questionable it’s time to drag out back to the future from the tool bag. Everything is going according to plan.
Peoples and governments have become lulled into unrealistic expectations to think “diversity, inclusion, and dialogue”…works with terrorists. How many times have we heard “humorously”…”you can’t negotiate with a terrorist.”
Well? Can you?
Glick has it right. Get it done.
If the US doesn’t awaken from the stupor of corporatism and endless chants of DEI, isolation and false sense of security…then the jammed cybersecurity and the endless bleeding at our southern boarder we in the USA will come to the same crossroads as the nation of Israel finds herself today.
With so many gutless “leaders” and too many beta males and metrosexuals allowing women and all manor of incompetents to “run the show” because someone may get their proverbial panties in a twist… we had better heed Carolyn Glick’s truthful observation and assessment of what Israel must do.
Did you hear what Glick said, Israel has finally learned from this mess of progressiveness Israel has learned? Women on the front lines is a concept that doesn’t work!! Look at these Hamas terrorists…they hide among women and children and use them as shields. Women on the front lines confuses the combatants. Now look at the Israeli soldiers who hesitate to fire on Gaza because they know these bastards hide among the skirts of women.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem
Well, here we go. Another war to subdue the “Religion of Peace.” When are people going to learn that Islam is an aberration in the world of religious enterprises. It is the only religion that preaches war against any and all of it religious adversaries, who it universally claims are “Infidel.” Now Israel must march into war to save itself for the umpteenth time. This is not a good time for this spectacle here in the United States, where we have enabled the advance of this so-called religion by supplying them with weaponry in Afghanistan and funding in Iran and elsewhere. Is our State Department even on the job anymore? I say, not since Hillary Clinton was installed as the leader of that damned fool gang of Gooberment grifters. Enough said, Israel cannot even count on us for help and must now destroy its enemies or be destroyed. Yet Again!
Do not forget the Benghazi Four to underline the evil that is Hillary! Keep in mind Valerie Jarrett as she whispers into Obama’s ear once more. Then there is the supreme liar Susan Rice…keep a close watch over her. Don’t forget Samantha Powers as she destabilizes other governments best as she can.
And of course, their sophist master, Mr. Preppy, Barack Hussein Obama certified Jew hater and America hater!
I include every last one of those power mongering fools. Thanks for extending what I could have included in that damned fool gang of Gooberment grifters.
“Come On Man” we’ve seen this psy opp before. All the usual “whatever it takes” suspects. Enough clicks and money for everyone.
The message we patriots of Western civilization now know in our bones: *We can not, we will not compromise with evil*.
No more. Evil must be defeated. Righteousness must prevail. There is no compromise possible, one with the other.
The focus should be on Iran and their proxy fighters, Hamas. The entire Israeli government of Netanyahu should resign. They have become weak and complacent. Too many liberals and leftists have infected the government at all levels comparable to DC and New York City. Israel should level the Gaza strip, give their citizen terrorists one week to vacate to adjacent countries like Jordan, Syria, Egypt and Lebanon, or suffer the deadly consequences. Do not negotiate with the terrorists on the hostages. Then engage Iran. Take out their nuclear facilities, their leadership and energy infrastructure. The UN will attack Israel, but so what. Israel has over 300 nukes, so make their day.
We fuel wars with prodigious amounts of money. At least what we will now send to Israel will come at the expense of what we send to Ukraine.
I know very little of the dynamics here, and humbly posit some questions to the many here who know so much more.
The Powers That Should Not Be started a proxy war in Ukraine where only they themselves, not the American people, had any demonstrable interest.
Their interest was 1) the $$ they make from corruption in that country and 2) the $$ they always need to pay off the warmonger apparatus. That beast must always be fed in their view.
The Gaetz action in Congress is starting to severely define the fact that American people have in majority been firmly against burning our tax $$ in a proxy war where we have zero interest.
So, I wonder today – did The Powers That Should Not Be trigger a new proxy war in Israel where we do have at least some American interest, hoping to force an infusion of the now-trickling spigot of the war machine $$, even though they can’t get their corruption $$ out of this situation?
These days my suspicious cat has both eyes trained on our corrupt non-intelligence apparatus for everything that happens…
And if in this case the proxy is Iran rather than Russia – wouldn’t this also be an attempt to push those interests closer to one another? Pushing up closer to the WWIII brink?
This is something that I haven’t taken into account. The timing does smell like the same old bad fish we get as a daily diet these days. Thanks for this comment, steph_gray.
Let’s send John Kerry and his hair over there. His hair should be able to talk to Iran. About what though?
I looked for the linked info below for two reasons.
First was a comment by an Israeli lady who said someone in her home had a gun, but what could they do against 10 invaders. With an AR-15, they could have done all that was needed. BUT, amazingly, as I have found below, they could not have legally owned one of those.
The other was a view from perhaps a third floor window in Israel of black suited Hamas with white headbands in the back of a large, white, most likely stolen pickup truck stopped in the street below, probably to block the road and fire on Israeli vehicles. They were sitting ducks to anyone above.
But the Israeli taking the video wouldn’t have had anything more than a pistol at best making any engagement very risky.
THIS is insane:
FEBRUARY 27, 2023
Firearm Licensing in Israel: How Strict Are the Jewish State’s Gun Laws?
https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/02/27/firearm-licensing-in-israel-how-strict-are-the-jewish-states-gun-laws/
Although perhaps controversial in other countries, the “good guy with a gun” theory has seemingly proven itself in Israel over the past two decades. For instance, armed civilians ended large-scale terror killings in Beersheba (March 22, 2022) and Ariel (November 15, 2022), while preventing deadly attacks in Gush Etzion (March 31, 2022), Jerusalem (July 19, 2022), and the Judean Desert (October 30, 2022).
Other major attacks that were stopped with the help of armed civilians include the 2008 bulldozer attack in Jerusalem, a 2016 stabbing spree at a supermarket in the West Bank, and the January 28, 2023, shooting near the City of David.
Indeed, a high percentage, if not a majority of Palestinian terrorists who are caught in the act of or attempting to murder Israelis, are swiftly neutralized by private citizens carrying weapons, according to an estimate by Israel Hayom.
Yet, contrary to popular conception, only a tiny minority of Israelis own firearms. In this piece, we will explain the Jewish state’s strict gun control laws.
Israel’s Gun Laws: No Constitutional “Right to Bear Arms”
Recent figures published by the National Security Ministry indicate that barely 150,000 Israelis have a personal gun license, or some 2.6% percent of the entire adult population (15-64). This figure excludes weapons held by IDF soldiers, police officers, border guards, and other security personnel — as well as approximately 400,000 illegal firearms, the vast majority circulating in Arab communities.
In 2023, the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, advanced legislation meant to tackle illegal firearm possession, and the Israel Police has carried out near-daily raids with an eye towards seizing illegal weapons.
Israel’s Firearm Law of 1949 and its related ordinances do not recognize any “right to bear arms,” and private gun ownership is subject to many restrictions. For one, civilians can only apply for a pistol, and rifles are wholly off-limits. Furthermore, as a general rule, civilians can have no more than 50 bullets in their possession at any given time.
Saw that article myself. The Israeli’s voted for their own deaths when they started electing leftist government. I remember when every Israeli was required to have a gun and uniformed Israeli’s with guns walked the streets. That’s how drastic the change has been. It’s happened in every western country including our own. Once the left takes over death and destruction become the norm.
The Hamas pickup truck:
At around 9:50 in the video she says “the sirens didn’t work”. WTF? Aren’t these tested? How can they just “not work”? This raises other questions.
The sirens didn’t work in Maui either.
Keep in mind, Samantha Power has been busy for quite a while in Israel re: regime change. Just food for thought.
Probably just kibitzing with all the leftist government politicians the Israeli voters put in office.
Well this has certainly got the bloodthirsty warmongers all riled up and distracted again.
Btw to all you believers the spiritual status of the Islamics and the unbelieving Jews is exactly the same, they are against-Christ.
They are all lost people not knowing their left hand from their right hand.
It is disgusting to advocate for one group to slaughter the other group.
I have no trouble distinguishing between Islamist and Jewish believers, Stu. No point in arguing with your equivalence logic although it is missing one glaring factoid about those two religions.
Hey Treepers just a quick question. Are all religions in Russia living peacefully together?
There needs to be no stopping of eliminating Hamas this time. Israel needs to resist the US and international pressure To not complete the objective this time as they have done in the past. I pray Israel has the fortitude to finish it.
However, as long as the ROP exists Hamas or someone like them will spring forth.
Yep, just like the prairie dogs we try to pound with a mallet at the fairgrounds when the carnival comes to town.
So it appears when Iran goes nuclear it will drop a nuclear bomb on Israel since it seeks its destruction. I’m wondering when they will have it.
So far ALL predictions have been totally wrong.
I have empathy for Israel but our country is falling apart. I wish them well but we have enough problems right here.
A.R. Roberts: Plenty of Israelis (and other Americans, such as myself) feel the same way. Over-reliance on and obeisance to the US creates a lot of problems in Israel.
All of this BS is planned
Here we go again another towel head fight
FJB
Reminded of the motto from Special Forces Magazine from the seventies
“Kill them all and let God sort it out.
Seems like that’s where we are now
That was originally said by a bishop who was asked by a knight how he could tell the dissenting Cathars from the Catholics during the Albegensian Crusade in Southeast France.