My dearest friends, as much as I do not want to accept certain things, this one is critical to accept. Jim Jordan has shown over time that he is simply a purposefully placed “anger manager” on behalf of the Professionally Republican wing of the administrative state.
Perhaps we lost him before the 2020 election, when the “six ways to Sunday” group fired a shot across his bow with the issues about “widespread sexual abuse in OSU’s wrestling program.” The timing seems to fit with the overall dynamic and how the intelligence apparatus operates. Regardless of whether that was the inflection point, the extreme visibility & promotion of the claims, in combination with the sudden disappearance of them, was the impetus –or if it was something similarly timed– something consequential changed in the political orbit of Jim Jordan.
For the past several years, as more intensity has swirled around us, Representative Jim Jordan has appeared as more of a useful “anger manager,” better positioned to satiate the masses than actually deliver any accountability results. The media appearances seemed to align with that intent, and then a very big datapoint surfaced that few -other than myself- seemed to be concerned about.
When the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Government was formed, it was constructed in the lane of the House Judiciary Committee. Meaning, the House Judiciary Committee would be the presumptive authority committee under which the select subcommittee would form. For most casual observers, this seemed to be just a parliamentary decision; however, for me it also held concern.
Those concerns were then realized when it was announced that Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan would also sit as the Chairman of the Select Subcommittee. If you are cynical and/or knowledgeable as to how the Deep State operates, this approach positioned Jordan as a backstop against the issuance of subpoenas that would be against the interests of the Professionally Republican leadership. Trying to protect the flickering flame of hope, I held my powder and watched.
What followed was the worst-case scenario that I previously outlined {Go Deep}. It is no longer a question of whether the Select Subcommittee was constructed in an effort to dissuade, dilute and deflect the outrage by the American people who were witnessing the weaponization of government. That’s exactly what the subcommittee result was as a result of Jim Jordan’s leadership.
I told several people at the time, after watching about 5 months of the subcommittee work, “It’s over.” Meaning there never was a genuine, actionable effort on behalf of the new Republican majority to confront the weaponization of government. It was all another farce – another railcar in a “long train of Republican abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object,” gaslighting and kicking the proverbial can.
As much as I did not want to accept it, we were once again victims.
Kevin McCarthy’s Lucy has unlimited footballs.
Jim Jordan is the carefully positioned guardian of Kevin McCarthy. Jordan was the general selected to hang out with the troops and play the role of steering leader; one foot in the trenches and the other foot in the mahogany meeting room. If he did his job well, he would control the glances by the regulars toward the indulgences of leadership.
Jim Jordan did his job very well.
Jordan is corrupt; perhaps that’s too strong a word; perhaps compromised is a better way to put it. Not corrupt/compromised in a way of directly lying, cheating or stealing, but rather corrupt in the same familiar manner that generates all of the frustration we feel. Corrupt in the sense of satiating the masses while being disingenuous in the extreme of creating ZERO accountability.
Speaker Kevin McCarthy used Jim Jordan for exactly this institutional preservation purpose, and Jordan knows it…. and willingly goes along with it…. and willingly plays the role of “anger manager” on behalf of his leadership. That’s the part that has become more obvious and needs to be accepted.
Once you understand this, the next part makes total sense.
WASHINGTON — Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, on Wednesday became the first lawmaker to announce a bid for speaker of the House, one day after Kevin McCarthy was ousted from the top job in a historic vote.
Asked by reporters in the Capitol if he was running, Jordan replied unequivocally: “Yes.”
“We need to unite the conference,” said Jordan, who had just met with Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., a likely rival for speaker, to inform him of his decision.
Later Wednesday, Jordan sent a letter to colleagues touting his work on immigration and oversight issues on the Judiciary panel and asking for their support.
“Now is the time for our Republican conference to come together to keep our promises to Americans. The problems we face are challenging, but they are not insurmountable. We can focus on the changes that improve the country and unite us in offering real solutions,” Jordan wrote. “But no matter what we do, we must do it together as a conference. I respectfully ask for your support for Speaker of the House of Representatives.”
Jordan said he made his decision after many of his GOP colleagues reached out, urging him to run. A source familiar with Jordan’s thinking said the congressman has repeatedly said that choosing the next speaker “will be a decision for the conference” and now the conference is asking. (read more)
Every element of the professional Republican apparatus in DC, positions their interests for the long game.
When a person grabs the flag at the front of the parade, watch who they hand it to… Often, there’s an intent.




Never liked JJ’s seemingly angry, but whiney voice.
And please do not consider Tom Emmer for the job.
He is from MN and 100% rino.
Scumbag of the lowest kind.
I had his number a long time ago.
Emmer is a liberal in Rino’s clothing
If Gaetz thinks people are incapable, he should put himself forward.
I knew what Jordan was when he threw himself down on the desk during an interview on FOX with Baier. Body language IS everything.
That’s a damn shame.
Yes it is.
A rino talker, puts on a great show on what he’s going to do. And then, nothing happens. There is an abundance of rino talkers in the house and senate.
Another term for it is “future faking.”
Yet in January of 2021, PDJT awarded Rep. Jordan the Presidential Medal of Freedom for leading the effort to confront the impeachment witch hunt, unmasking the Russia hoax, & taking on Deep State corruption.
As Sundance said above, something changed in 2020.
And all of those efforts were directed at the Democrats/Liberals. He protects RINO wrongdoing.
Yep, that’s why I had his number a long time ago.
BULLSEYE!
Sundance does it again!
Yes indred…been following Sundance since 2012, and very seldom comes up with a swing and a miss.
Sometimes it’s sad. Like this post… you hope he’s wrong, but know he’s not.
Will Matt Gaetz et al get promises from JJ in order to vote for him? Or will he give outright support?
Thoughts?
promises first, rape throughout, actions later
I dont even want promises anymore. Gaetz should just keep burning the Speaker until a Democrat almost wins – then say SEE I TOLD YOU – they would rather a Democrat than a pro-Trump person
He’s already said he would vote for either Jordan or Scalise.
He said that he COULD vote for them not that he WILL. Words matter.
Retired Magistrate here: Gaetz has already stated that he will support Jordan for speaker. See my previous comment on the Presidential Politics Page about McCarthy, Jordan and Gaetz; all a pre planned dog and pony show to placate restless natives.
I have been patiently waiting for someone other than me to throw caution on Gaetz.
Nice catch, your honor.
Here’s another little tidbit to shock everyone feeling giddy about Gaetz:
Check out Gaetz’s connections with CLUB FOR GROWTH.
Rot roh!
It all kabuki theater.
Where is Mass Psychosis when you need him? 🤔
😎⚔️
Yes, McCarthy happily preplanned his humiliation as the first SOH to be removed by his own party in front of the whole world.
Retired Magistrate here: Money takes care of a lot of humiliation.
If Gaetz and McCarthy and Jordan planned this out…anything is possible and nothing is real..I’m not quite prepared to go there just yet.
As I said in a previous post, this looks just like the Boehner-Ryan exchange. One snake for another. I don’t trust any of them – period.
Donald Trump for Speaker. Period, end of story. I know it probably won’t happen, but he’s the guy that can start fixing stuff in that lobbyist-funded cesspool called Congress.
Yes, force EVERY member of the House to make an up or down vote of President Trump as Speaker.
They got enough openly pDJT haters to do it with no issue? they do not have enough?
Yes what you say is true, However given the current circumstances.
1) DJT is the Presidential front runner
2) If this is Theater after all many of these hacks can not afford to break ranks.
3) Much like Eric Cantor your place is secured by vote, Most of which will come from Trump supporters striking him down at this point is to throw him to the wolfs. People will remember we are coming to the end of money making the difference Merit and character will be the commodities people will vote for in the future
Damn straight.
Trump didn’t show much insight in his Presidential appointments (AG, FBI Director, etc). He relied on the recommendations of his “friends”. I.e for Sessions, Rod Rosenstein, etc!
Who isn’t a RINO? That query isn’t rhetorical for many of “we”, the unwashed. 🤨
Not exactly true. Most of his appointments required Senate confirmation. Donald Trump could only appoint whoever Mitch McConnell let him.
Bingo
This complaint repeated here over and over again is getting very old and stale.
At least 30 R’s would oppose that and if they approved the Demonrats would bring back McCarthy.
Being from Ohio, I’d started out liking what I saw with Jim Jordan and willing to give him a chance. Based on what we’ve seen of him in action and as reported by Sundance, and based on my own gut feeling, I’d really rather not see him become Speaker.
the threat of the Club is something none of us could handle if its eye was on us.
PDJT has some kind of atmosphere around him that can keep this Club Attack off of him.
Jordan folded – after something, i cant even say it was the car thing. Just something changed.
Threatened through extortion is my belief.
Absolutely! He definitely lost his mojo somewhere along the way. The three letter agencies have a way of doing that, taking out the good guys.
These days I am not completely sure he hasn’t been chipped.
It’s sad, but obvious. Much like Trey Gowdy. The question is, besides President Trump, who has a reasonable chance of getting enough votes to be Speaker and would follow through with what they promise but avoid doing?
I had hope for Jim Jordan at one time. This is a painful acceptance.
I am with you, Alleycats.
I never thought I’d have to draw a big black line through his name as a disappointment.
The deep filthy Swamp swallows them all in the end it seems.
perhaps we need a hollywood squares type of notice
for both the republican house and senate so we can keep track
I think a betting sheet,
Amjean …whose next?
We have basically no one left in congress to root for.
There is no honour or integrity in either the House or the Senate.
If there were we wouldn’t be in this hideous mess on all fronts.
I don’t think they even get in the game initially without some fealty to the Swamp. It’s how they receive endorsements and money to be (s)elected.
Some carry the ruse better than others, that’s all.
I agree with this. If the wretched RNC openly demand it…and they do or tried to… one can only imagine the fealty oath imposed behind the closed doors of their private Big Club.
Yes , also thought he was for real as he flew ( with those stupid shirt sleeves rolled up ) in PDJT’s slipstream as a minority member , until it came time for him to REALLY DO SOMETHING …will not be excited if he is replacement … I think Kari Lake is the only true MAGA that I would trust at this point…
It sure is. Gotta clean the whole house, not just a select few. All all of em gots to,go!
Have a weird accident around me, I might realize its not time to stand also
PDJT is so well equipped to fight this that THERE IS NO ONE ELSE we can think of now that can fight this BIG CLUB without dying.
Noooo – they didn’t wait long for a 2.0 move to reclaim it -just “ Kevin without a Suit Jacket “. – and the bargaining /phony pinky swears begin again .. Noooo
So disappointing…Has anyone else seen this:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/fbi-creates-new-terrorism-category-trump-supporters-lead/
FBI whistleblower Steve Friend weighed in on the latest admission by the Deep State.
Steve Friend calls for the indictment and arrest of every single FBI and DOJ executive who took part in this scam and to abolish the FBI!
To sellout one’s nation is neither corrupt or compromised – its a deal with the devil.
The problem with a faustian bargain is that the devil will be around sooner or later to collect his dues. With, or without taking away his boons first.
Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State must be destroyed!
The Gaetz 8 will decide.
Is Gaetz a fool, or a tool for PDJT.
if a PDJT vote gets made – do they have enough outspoken haters to cover the vote for his loss.
(I did not see the Gaetz move, until he did it, and during the conference after where a reporter tried to trap him and say something like PdJT said Unity and you are destroying that so what do you think, and Gaetz paused and said based on my talks with the President I think i am doing what he wants’
what he wants.
what he wants.
The short of it I think, is that Gaetz is on the same page with President Trump.
Arranging a vote for Trump for Speaker is less about winning a floor vote, then outmaneuvering all the rest of the pretenders and flushing them out for what they are.
I have seen Gaetz and Byron Donald with PDJT at countless rallies this year. They are on each side of him like his bodyguards.
100% agreed
Bouncing McCarthy was also important it causes division and confusion along with horse trading. Bonus if DJT gets elected it is a win with no down side. Thank Gatz for getting over the hurdle.
I don’t believe him
….’in the end, you are,exactly, what you are…’
I was suspicious when he put himself forward this time, after declining to enter the contest numerous times in the past when he was being “drafted.”
I also think he is in the race to thwart any real support that would develop behind the idea of PDJT as a serious candidate.
Why is it only now that there is talk of Trump being selected is he interested?
Trump as speaker has been voiced about for a while -definitely before McC’s ouster.
good point
he wouldn’t go up against McCarthy
but, now that McCarthy is gone…..
he is available for the job
He is being controlled now.
President Trump was nominated during the Kevin McCarthy 15 vote time period.
Another Trey Gowdy.
Tick tock. Durham is going to get em.
Contingencies upon Contingencies.
Jim J. takes names and kicks azz never.
Good analysis , I guess as a wrestler , he knows when to hit the mat ?
Sundance, your second paragraph really hit home with me. You describe exactly the scenario unfold around JJ as I saw it at the time, step by step.
The rest of the article is also completely accurate.
Please Sundance, who is for you the best candidate for speaker?
SD keeps titling stuff the Big Ugly.
If I had to guess – the big ugly is them showing themselves and PDJT thru agents of chaos throwing wrenches in everything until the party is hijacked or the mask are off.
pain is mentioned. living your best is mentioned.
none of that implies a speaker is going to be voted in and it will solve something.
I dont know what it means, besides just thinking.
Perhaps it means that the curtain covering the Wizard will be pulled back by the little dog…the easy pretending will be exposed to the extent that any further pretending will be (1) so expensive in terms of political capital that it may prove unsustainable, and (2) only the uncritical, propagandized will believe it (that, however, may be enough to legitimize its use).
I thought this talk of Trump as speaker was just silly and wishful thinking.
But it may be he is the only person who is capable of ripping off the band aid.
If nothing else all this j6 tapes would be released…. finally.
I don’t get it. Why do so many want Jordan when he was not one of those who voted to oust McCarthy?
Very good question. NO ONE who voted to keep McCarthy in should be considered.
Yeah, I haven’t trusted Jim Jordan for a couple of years. Your approximate year of 2020 does fit, though. He’s been compromised and you can see it in his actions the last couple of years. Forget what they say, watch what they do.
Big tale regular on FOX.
No one gets to be a congresscritter without the Corporation’s approval and the corporation does not work for us. The Corporation works for itself.
I just listened to pollster Richard Baris podcast and he said that Jim Jordan was going to be redistricted out and McCarthy came to the rescue. Maybe that is why he is so loyal to McCarthy.
Remember McCarthy would not support MAGA candidates and instead undermined them. Screw anyone who kisses his ars.
Jim Jordan is to Ohio what Trey Gowdy was to South Carolina and Congress in general.
Jordan likes to talk tough and is often so mad that he spits fire.
Once Jordan is done with the tough talk, done spitting fire and writing tough letters, the end result is always the same , nothing changes.
I agree with Sundance, Jordan is compromised.
scary indeed, John Solomon / justthenews.com ran a poll today asking who should be next house speaker… 42% jordan, 9% scalise, rest not sure. I’d never vote for a lapdog
I do not want JJ. I would like for this guy Patrick McHenry to show more of his stuff for now.
McHenry was in agreement with Biden.
A HARD no!
NO!
He was part of the debt ceiling deal cut with Biden and continuously mischaracterizes it as a huge win.
Good grief, it’s as bad as Biden saying he created more jobs than any other president but it’s simply because businesses opened up again.
McHenry has a Napoleonic complex on steroids.
You mean Gavelboy? Haha!!
🎯. It’s difficult to accept things as they are, but this is what we’re up against. The swamp creatures are running out of shady corners to lurk in and they are getting more desperate by the day.
He’s never been the same since they went after him on the knowing sexual abuse as a wrestler or since his nephew died in the crash.
I noticed a BIG change in him after his nephew was murdered, er, killed in a tragic accident.
That’s funny and a good metric.
I like that. And keep thinking about that certain lapel pin Hannity wears sometimes.
How about Devin Nunes?
If not, then next Speaker should be one of the 8.
Dash it all!
Dashed hopes.
Hopeium.
Dupe for the masses.
Uniparty dope
Jordan is a sand bagger, nothing more.
Fully agree.
It’s getting more and more difficult to see out past all of the smoke and flack from the incoming rounds. The ‘Broken Arrow’ sensation of “Everything you have, on my position!”, …
Disheartened doesn’t begin to describe what a Patriot feels.
Will Gaetz fall for it?
What are his public comments on jim?
Jim Durham (we are done with Hail Mary’s, we are ready to just face it all at once)
This was the way of the tea party nullification. The “Fox News Heroes” were bathed in applause and “love bombed” by leadership. The goal was to inoculate them from MAGA calling BS.
Their goal was to always have MAGA Voters say well they must be trying or they can’t be that bad. Because if Jim Jordon likes them then they can’t be that bad.
Well. MAGA voters learned from the great American philosopher – Earnest T Bass and they said, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”
I agree.
I used this today when speaking with a friend about it and SD’s brilliant compilation of the GOPe/RNC failures.
The half-life of our naïveté to the machinations of the GOPe and RNC is dramatically decreasing with of their designed failures.
It’s so short now that they are getting called out in real time by constituents and alternative media.
They never saw that coming.
GOPe and Faux thought we would be dupes forever, buying whatever the latest BS line they fed us.
They have completely missed the transformation of a significant number of the populace to truth seekers, willing to search out answers and no longer rely on previous “news” purveyors.
Hence, the push by the administrative state to control social media, the Catholic church, other churches, attendees at school board meetings and most notably, THE MILLIONS OF MAGA DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
There is no alternative but MAGA and America First if we are to save America.
GREAT POINT.
But remember. They have as hard a time tracking our constant shifting lines of communication as they will designating 71,000,000 domestic terrorist.
The fruit baskets in DC can’t control THAT many strays.
Moves & countermoves.
“Know them by their works.”
I follow this scripture so I am not shocked or surprised. Jordan is another joke that is getting more and more deceitful. He thinks he is fooling us. Scalise is another do nothing pretender.
‘Claim to fame was getting shot…’
“Perhaps we lost him before the 2020 election, when the “six ways to Sunday” group fired a shot across his bow with the issues about “widespread sexual abuse in OSU’s wrestling program.”
So why is Jordan not fighting back on these accusations?
Does he fear they will go after him with fake charges like they do Trump?
Or do they have something on him?
What’s the difference?
I don’t care. The Bidens and others get away with just about anything, from treason to bribery to cocaine to whores to ignoring thir grandchild for years. That is “the new normal”?
If Jim Jordan knew about sexual abuse when he was in college, i am guessing most of us with a few decades on us, are not so different.
In the 1960s, 70s and 80s, sexual adventurism was made out to be something “cool” and there are a LOT of people who did a lot of things they shouldn’t have, and other who saw sexual abuse and looked away.
Let’s do better, but I don’t have knives out for people who behaved according to the standards of the time. I was appalled by the report of Jerry Sandusky’s “horseplay” with children, but inebriated wrestlers in the 1970s is not something I care about. Live your best life Jim Jordan
The nephew’s car accident on the other hand…
I came to the same conclusion because neither the House Judiciary nor the House Weaponization committee have accomplished anything……..subpoenas, witnesses, actions to hold the DOJ accountable in their moves against President Trump or against the J6 defendants.
And I have been posting this to other sites that have put up something about Jim Jordan. We must get the word out to others so that they realize, he is not the answer.
hopefully this hack will be thrown out of speakership as well
The Unis love their Midwestern hardscrabble guy who just feels lucky to be there. Jordan is Hastert and Boehner and Pence and and and and …countless others. Also, he’s not that articulate or bright based on what I’ve seen and I seriously doubt he’s strategic. He is naturally aggressive but needs a figurative wrestling coach to keep him on task. No way Speaker material we need.
Jim Jordan, the jig is up.
We’ve been played, and have no inclination or interest to buy what you’re selling. Go write some stern letters with your bro, McCarthy. Dream on, I highly doubt that you will become Speaker. I vote solid NO.
Anyone elected to speaker ship is a guaranteed RINO. Absolute certainty.
If there is a House Republicanthat has no ties to Blackrock, then that person should be the next Speaker.
Talk the talk, but doesn’t walk the walk. Seems a common trait of our self proclaimed conservative leaders. A pox upon them all .
He probably got an A in debate….
Jordan is the ranking member of the Tick Tock Boom Club Caucus
Should have retired from politics to go work at Truth Social like Devin Nunes 😉
Thank you, Sundance.