Justice Alito is going to allow the Biden Administration to justify why they should be allowed to control all the content on social media platforms and coordinate with the social media companies to remove opinion & information against their interests. This should be interesting. 😂🤣😂
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday temporarily blocked a lower court ruling that would place restrictions on the Biden administration’s contact with social media companies.
The brief order issued by conservative Justice Samuel Alito came less than two hours after the Justice Department asked the Supreme Court to step in.
It gives the court more time to consider what next steps to take before deciding whether to grant the administration’s request. In the meantime, the lower court ruling will remain on hold until midnight on Sept. 22.
[…] Alito’s order, which does not mean the court will necessarily grant Prelogar’s request once considered in more detail, said the states should respond by Sept. 20.
[…] “The implications of the Fifth Circuit’s holdings are startling,” Prelogar wrote. “The court imposed unprecedented limits on the ability of the President’s closest aides to use the bully pulpit to address matters of public concern, on the FBI’s ability to address threats to the Nation’s security, and on the CDC’s ability to relay public health information at platforms’ request.” (read more)
Methinks they doth protest too much.
Some suggest:
All contact by government with social media should be outlawed.
Except: The ability to notify citizens that government agencies have information available at the respective agency website.
WH has something to say? Go to their website if you care.
FBI has something to say about “threats to our nation’s security”? Go to their website if you still think that their claims can be believed.
CDC wants to “relay public health information”? Go to their website if you still think anything they say can be trusted.
But they should be 100% denied a platform to broadcast from now on, after the abuses of the last few years. There is no constitutional requirement for government to have a communications platform to spread MDM and propaganda. Despite the SMMA of 2012.
“…after the abuses of the last few years.”
it has been abused for more than 50 years. The OSS, CIA, Operation Mockingbird … It is standard operation procedure with the federal government, probably since Woodrow Wilson.
FDR with telecommunications. Jimmy Carter and FISA. Clinton and the FBI. GWB and the Patriot Act. Surveillance of the governed.
As bad as things have been in the past, today’s offenses are so blatantly committed, with every public statement so likely to be full of straight-out lies, and the flat refusal of the government to recognize that they’re supposed to be supporting, not destroying, the BOR… makes it arguably much worse today than ever.
A lot of us here have been around quite awhile and most of us would have to say that never in the last century (that is, within our own lifetimes, our own memories) — has the US swayed so close to authoritarianism. The major difference is that those in the swamp feel so powerful and have such contempt for us now (lookin’ at the man in that “other WH” in DC) that the mistreatment/illegalities against J-6 prisoners alone shows such how dangerously close we are to losing our country.
(Color revolutions the world over have done tremendous damage to our reputation, but that type of “misbehavior” by intel within our own borders (yes! we used to have borders!) is now used on us ( thinking back on all the lavender ties and lapels we’ve seen since BO and the attempted coronation of HRC to finish the “16-year-plan…)
They have swapped their lavender ties and scarves for purple ones since November 2016.
‘We’ have been Nothing but the illusion of a Republic~ ‘We’ are Now punching our way out of that Authoritarian coffin~
There is a plethora of TRUTHS YET to be revealed~
Seek, and Ye Shall find!
In his image, We are the Truth and the Way~
Always with Love
Lincoln and the arrest of Northern newspaper men.
I know I’m nit picking but with 35 up votes I feel the need. “Telecommunications” as in Television was no issue in the FDR era. Now if you fast forward that to JFK and the 1960’s I’m on board. Second I am of the understanding that FISA is a figment of the Patriot Act which was well after Carter. Try GWB AKA Bush Jr. Yeah, Clinton was a horndog and as a retired AF Major once said in a discussion on Clinton, “I really don’t care what he did but lying about it would have gotten either you or I prosecuted.” Yes, If Bush II is remembered for nothing else let it be the abominable Patriot Act. Let that be his legacy! His albatross!
No disrespect. I have a tremendous advantage at 80 years old I have actually lived through all this crap. I don’t have to read history or listen to a revisionist History Teacher/Professor. I can close my eyes and hear every president back to Truman.
It was illegal to speak against involvement in WW1. The government arrested and prosecuted people back then.
Was it illegal for Doctors to speak about the Spanish flu in 1916?
The fact that the US declared war on Germany and Austria-Hungary had a lot to do with that.
We are not in a state of war with a foreign enemy.
the abuse and corruption actually began in 1776
” If Mr. Jefferson is elected you had better lock up all your wives and Daughters…” It goes back to our founding. The Jefferson / Adams campaign may have been one of the dirtiest in our history. Folks were smarter then and could separate the corn Rom the BS. Not so sure anymore. I am being generous the fact that Biden is even close to Trump in the polls tells me the same electorate that gave Obama a second term in ’12 and pushed (?) Brandon over the line in ’20 (cough!) is still around and just as dumb as ever.
Social media includes the alphabet media because they have accounts on the major platforms.
Not just broadcasting, the government has no right to censor or prssure businesses to do so.
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The Fifth Circuit’s order, while it was nice, still watered down the District Court injunction. I wrote an extensive comment back on that thread, including mention of the multiple cases cited in the Fifth’s decision that I believe were decided wrong, so won’t repeat. I am not feeling good about this. Why stay the order. I hope I’m wrong and have just become a really pessimistic codger.
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if someone doesnt know the message by now, and needs more messages, is to slow to be useful.
lines been drawn.
a total breakdown of every system you are comfortably in pain in, is going to dissapear when both sides of the aisle (by design) do no (EDIT – Not) trust the outcome of the election.
no court case will matter.
If the Fifth Circuit’s order was stayed – does that mean the initial order the Fifth had ruled on takes precedence and returns to being in full force and effect?
If so, that would be a positive event since the original ruling put in a lot of restrictions against the government interfering with social media platforms, right?
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He stayed the District Court.
IT IS ORDERED that the preliminary injunction issued on July 4, 2023, by the United States District Court for the Western District of Louisiana, case No. 3:22-cv-01213, is hereby administratively stayed until 11:59 p.m. (EDT) on Friday, September 22, 2023. It is further ordered that any response to the application be filed on or before Wednesday, September 20, 2023, by 4 p.m. (EDT).
/s/ Samuel A. Alito, Jr.
Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States…
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Thank you! I couldn’t find that stay so was confused as to what was being stayed.
Liberty is something you just HAVE to be cautious above upholding. These things are so complex.
The default SHOULD be that the government conduct complained of is constitutional. We simply can’t tolerate the least impediment to free government action. Freedom means THAT kind of freedom.
In reading the full statement by Solicitor General Elisabeth Prelogar, I was struck by the fact that she argued that the Louisiana District Court had placed “unprecedented limits on the President’s closest aides” as well as limits on other agencies within the Executive branch (FBI and CDC), yet in her request, she cited only ARTICLE III violations, not ARTICLE II violations.
That is odd. Nonetheless, Prelogar cannot have missed the irony that President Trump will soon be presenting an Article II defense in the near future that will bear on these very same issues of “unprecedented limits on the President’s closest aides” as well as many other Article II issues.
I suspect that DOJ did not want SOTUS to issue rulings that would strengthen Article II powers for fears that it would validate President Trump’s very obvious Article II authority, post-election 2020, in fulfilment of his oath of office to enforce all constitutional provisions concerning rights and privileges of citizens of the United States, but most especially those 74M citizens who cast their votes for President Trump in 2020 only to see their votes bartered away by vile, partisan operatives of state governments.
Please read SCOTUS, instead of SOTUS in last paragraph!
the Readers Comments under tweets (whatever they are) is government messaging.
Keep in mind that the “Progressive” Left’s censorship isn’t as much about silencing conservative voices as it is about keeping their low info base from hearing them.
That old saying:
“Keep ‘em dumb & keep ‘em democrat”
…… didn’t get to be an old saying for nothing.
This is the same motive and mentality exhibited by slaveholders who wouldn’t allow their slaves to read, write or own books.
EVIL
That old saying now applies to all public schooling facilities from pre-school to state and federal universities, including 95% of the MSM and Hollywood products.
This will be the first time in his life that Joe Biden has been held fully accountable for his lies and crimes. Most likely this will kill Joe.
JUSTICE FOR ALL……INCLUDING THE BIDENS (ESPICALLY)
Oh come on..Nothing would kill Joe unless he is run over with a semi truck and tht might not be enough. Although going up to Heaven and explaining to Jesus why he lied about everything including wht a great Catholic he was would sure be the ultimate kill when he is thrown to the gates of Hell
Another great piece of artwork, Sundance! Thank you!! There are so many joining us. The comments are so interesting these past few weeks. We are back in Trump-time and I love it. Events are fast and furious.
I feel like a rat in a maze!
Astonishing!
You would think that the Supreme Court would stay out of this power GRAB!
Compromised.
Yes, they are. It’s just not right.
Where were they when numerous states presented them with 2020 election fraud?
The U.S.Supreme Court said STATES have no standing and would not hear it.
Correct me if I am mistaken.
We have already had a war over States right! Just saying.
SEVENTEEN states.
Ken Paxton, Attorney General of Texas, represented Texas in Texas vs. Pennsylvania. SCOTUS refused to hear the arguments, which still makes no sense to this day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Pennsylvania
Fast Forward to present: Paxton is being removed from office by the Uniparty Rs in the Texas legislature.
Effective MAGA representatives are being canceled, one at a time.
F’ing Brilliant!
The humiliation is part of the kink.
They’ve been doing it since before 2020. Probably before 2016. DARPA = Lifelog
Simple math: DARPA x Lifelog = twitter.
Do any of the delusional CIA/FBI/DoJ/Biden admin/etc. thugs think nobody is on to them?
Honest people simply and quietly explain.
Thugs try to justify themselves – loudly and .threateningly.
I wish i could form a more prescient observation… but to consider SCOTUS free of the collection & manipulation resulting from the minutiae collected by NSA is just too steep a hill to climb..
compromising the judicial branch is key to owning the Republic…
WOW!
Alito is a traitor for even considering it.
There s no reason to allow that but it will be used to CENSOR TRUTH.
What doesn’t he understand about our First Amendment Right?
There should be NO RESTRICTIONS.
Trump 2024
Maybe it’s too much hopium, but I wonder if Alito wants the case heard because it is so egregious a violation of the Constitution.
A case so obvious that he is eager to write a majority ruling on smacking these clowns down.
I don’t see it that way, that Alito is a traitor. After reading the text of the Stay that Outhouse Counsel provided it looks more like Justice Alito, as the spider, has just invited Lawfare into its web.
This lawsuit, just as all the other current get-Trump lawsuits, was always going to end up in the Supreme Court, and this is the opening of that door.
Sorry, no. Samuel Alito is no traitor. In fact, he and SC Justice Thomas are the best we have; and the only ones who regularly try to uphold the U.S. Constitution.
I really don’t understand, Alito has been strong
Maybe he’s bending the knee because they are after him
Not being bright enough to comprehend just how friggin’ stupid you are is the hallmark of “Progressiveism”
They are PRO “VACCINE” so be careful.
Justice Amy Coney Barrett rejected a suit from Indiana University student who didn’t want the toxic shots.
BEING AGAINST the toxic shots could be CENSORED as “disinformation.”
Are the conservative justices going to allow the federal government, through its intelligence agencies, to control what speech Americans are allowed to see on the social media sites? Really? In the name liaise-fare governance? Say it ain’t so.
Somebody has a problem with using the English language correctly?
“…imposed limits on thee ability of the President’s closest aides to use the bully pulpit to address matters of public concern, on the FBI’s ability to address threats to the Nation’s security, and on the CDC’s ability to relay public health information at platforms’ request.”
No. It does none of that. Saying you may not take away the free speech rights of OTHERS through bullying, persuasion, threats, etc. is NOT the same things as saying YOUR speech rights are taken away. It says nothing at all about what you may say to the public.
Don’t know why attorneys are considered cream-of-the-crop, so to speak, when it comes to being a “professional.” They are mistaking protecting the rights of others with taking away your own. The two are separate and not synonymous.
Or, are they just whining in that undignified way (pretending victimhood where none exists) in hopes that the general public will read it and believe SCOTUS is taking away the rights of the powerful (ha–that’s a joke) when all they’re saying is “stop being bullies and trying to claim that free speech is only for presidential bureaucrats, the FBI, and the CDC.” (wait–I think there’s some redundancy there.)
P.S. Did not mean to add an O to my name! Will have to fix that…
oh I dunno
it’s kinda catchy
evokes to me Putin in a rockabilly outfit
Attorneys – cream of the CRAP is more like it!
What the difference between a President issuing a request for an Emergency Stay Demanding the Right to Censor, Silence, and Manipulate American Public opinion and a New Mexico Governor unilaterally suspending the Second Amendment. Each claiming we have yet another Emergency?
It seems all they need to do is declare an Emergency and forget the Constitution. Until forced into not moving forward on the arbitrary action. The Executive Orders issued by the President appear to be another means of taking arbitrary action without letting the Constitution get in the way.
What stops the Governor and other Public officials from taking a similar action, followed by the magic words “It’s an Emergency”? I remember the words to the effect of do process. Where is the do process in this? How many Emergencies is enough?
I believe it is… “due process” …lol
FJB
Justice Alito, what a heck of a smile on that face. Telling the lackeys of the drooling houseplant impersonating a president, come on over lets talk BS.
This is the classic WH’s priorities. No concern over the millions of illegals occupying American soil and the crimes already committed; yet no effort to reign in elements that are of real threat to national security and American’s lives and property along with the slew of anti-American policies and laws put into place within the recent few years that have never been done before. There’s a mass deception and corruption involving politicians on both sides but it’s the Republican citizens this administration seeks to illegally subdue over projected narratives and perceived threats instead of where the real ones are. Pathetic. Evil doers sinking deeper digging their own graves to bury themselves and the complicit criminal media running dogs along with them.
AP reporter made to eat her phony narrative
Dear God
“Methinks they doth protest too much.”
Yes they are. They have the ability to do all they are claiming they need to do. They just want to do it without being made to look like tyrannical fools doing it.
First the government shouldn’t have a bully pulpit. Next it isn’t the government’s bully pulpit isn’t the issue its the denial of anyone to speak out in opposition.
Could it be any clearer that it’s time to put our overpaid, insubordinant servants back in their place?
I bet Alito wants to hear the whole story so he can ask the Feds to stuff it.
Alito is playing rope-a-dope with tyrants. I commend him and his integrity.
If the Court were to simply accept the ruling, then this impossibly dangerous affront to individual liberty, will be turned back temporarily, only to come back to us later, like the moral virus it is. Yet by keeping the decision alive and in general/political discussion, and opening up about this administrative assault on citizen liberty by appointees of the very government we elect, it will be considered by millions more people.
After a longer consideration, the SCOTUS can then crush the decision with the prejudice it deserves and thereby project our Constitutional cause on to many more people, preparing them better for the future defense of liberty.
I’m giddy at the prospects of reading the dissent of the Two Stooges (plus Kagan).
Hopefully, this is prelude to a great smack down. We will see …
What we need to do is get ’emergency’ ‘orders’ from any executive branch to be ruled Unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. We all know that the executive does not have law making power.
Will the SCOTUS ruling here pertain strictly to the Federal Government’s overreach in ‘social’ media forums like Twatter, or does this ruling spill into mainstream media, as well?
I’m wondering about the downstream effect because, while social media is a relatively new construct, the ‘mainstream’ media has been strangled by gubmint overreach for far longer.
It’s so obvious that what passes for ‘network’ news is pure gubmint propaganda. Sundance regularly points out which alphabet agency *controls* each broadcast network, ie.. CNN, WSJ, etc..
Getting bad here folks. Evil is all encompassing. Do something other than talk or there will be no freedom left. The only free people would appear to be the criminals who don’t give a damn.
Remember Amendment X. If it is not specified it is not within the Federal government’s jurisdiction.
The wording mentions that those gove. entities are asking that they be allowed to make a “REQUEST.” Weaselwords from weasel-smiths. They don’t follow the law now! Give them more power to demand, control and destroy? Good Grief. If the SCOTUS says yes, then what FOOLS THESE JUDGES BE!!
I hope that Alito and the rest of them remember which party wanted to add 7 or 8 more judges to the court!! And who was pounding on their door and screaming obscenities out side of it not too long ago. And who was willing to harrass them in their homes. And who leaked the reversal of the Roe decision. Put your big boy and big girl pants on judges. Don’t let Biden get away with another evil monstrosity.
they spit in our face and deny they did it.
I have often watched long comment threads about free speech vanish here at the Last Refuge.
Who controls THAT?
Let’s let the feds make fools of themselves for all to see through this Supreme Court which should bring many more eyes and attention to the criminality and tyranny of this government. Maybe a few more people pay attention…and wake up!
Me thinks that Alito is getting tired of being hated and having the corporate media pile on. This is how the left works. They really are evil.
“The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit issued a unanimous three-judge decision on September 1, 2023, holding that the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) overstepped its statutory authority by attempting to ban using ivermectin to treat COVID-19. In Apter v. Department of Health and Human Services, court concluded, “FDA is not a physician. It has authority to inform, announce, and apprise—but not to endorse, denounce, or advise.”
WTH is Alito up to?
Other than the great Clarence Thomas (God bless that man) there are no reliably “conservative” Justices. Notice how the left never has to worry about one of theirs joining the other side.
Methinks you may be underestimating this one, Sundance…
“Only the second woman to be confirmed to her post after Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan in 2010, Prelogar was able to pull off surprising victories, ending the term with a 4-4 record.”
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/solicitor-general-prelogar-walks-fine-line-with-skeptical-court