This is alarming, quite alarming. [H/T Collin Rugg] In a recent J6 case it has been revealed that Liberty Safe Co. gave the FBI background access codes to the safe and vault owned by the investigative target of the FBI, Nathan Hughes.
As the story is told, the FBI (federal govt) contacted the safe manufacturer and asked for a secret code that would open the safe. The FBI had a search warrant for the premises. Liberty Safe Co. gave the FBI the access code that would allow them to open the safe, without relying on (or asking) the owner to open it.
This is alarming on a few levels. First, why does Liberty even hold an override code for their safes. Second, why didn’t Liberty just tell the FBI they do not own the safe, therefore the issue of compliance is between the owner and the FBI?
Liberty Safe Co. responded:
This is a ridiculous position easily avoided by saying, “we don’t own the safe.” The bottom line is to avoid all the Liberty Safe products that allow them to access your private holdings, including gun safes and personal papers. If you own a Liberty Safe, just get rid of it. It’s compromised. Write it off to a lesson learned and forget about it.
Buy a manual lock, replace the electronic lock and change the combination yourself. Google it. Its not hard.
Have you noticed that nearly all the safes on display in stores have the electronic locks?
I’ve been trying to find one with a combination lock and about the only way you can get one is to order it.
I had a safe with a push button electric keypad. One of the keys folded under the keypad plate and there was nothing I could do to open it. The manual override keys did not work. The number in the override keys did not match the number on the safe. I purchased the “correct” keys but they did not work, either.
Eventually I had to rip the safe off the wall and drill enough small holes in the metal to allow me to cut a piece out of the wall to retrieve the contents.
Never again.
American Security, not Liberty.
Auwtsnae: Electronic locks are cheaper to manufacturer and the electronic components probably come from China.
If so they probably have the access numbers stored too. 🙄
Nothing ever surprises me anymore….
I don’t own a safe but have been thinking of getting something, so looking forward to reading this whole thread of treeper advice and info.
steph_gray:
I offer some practical considerations when shopping for a safe: Where will you place or install the safe? Will accessibility be an issue, due to tight space or physical infirmity? When you open the safe, which way does the door swing? Will there be enough clearance to open the door fully and access the contents easily? Will you be able to operate the locking mechanism and open the safe in the dark? (think about night time, power outages, non-functioning light bulbs). Might you need to open the safe in a hurry, and/or under stress? How quickly can you do it? How good is your eyesight? Can you see combination markings or keypad numbers or letters without wearing glasses or contact lenses? Black markings on dials can be especially hard to see, even with good light.
I could go on, but think about all the practicalities and user friendliness aspects.
I have a simple fix. Rescue a pitbull puppy. Raise he or she correctly and would be sh!tbirds will pass your house up for the next one.
Dogs can be poisoned. Just saying….
The police and FBI will lose no sleep when they shoot your dog even if it is sleeping, on a leash, wagging its tail with a toy in its mouth, or you trying to move it out of the way.
Most folks in my area have safes on account of break-ins. If the feebs want what you have they will get it. People with dogs especially good dogs that look scary are less likely to need a safe is all I was sayin’.
Get a non working refrigerator, take out all the shelves and put your own big ass lock and hasp. Instant gun safe. Have you noticed that even when a house catches on fire alot of times the fridge or freezer remains intact due to all the insulation they have. Now way Obamas backdoor boys can override that lock.
I found a large used analog combination lock office safe on eBay for $450
when I contacted the owner, it turned out he lived 70 miles from me
he knocked off $100 (for cash) and even delivered the safe and even helped me bring it into the house!
good safes make good neighbors
Look for an antique safe, one that has the old time combination lock.
We picked one up a few years back for $400. Large and heavy with a combo only we have access to, and one we can change whenever we feel the need to.
I’m sure they can blast the lock out, but no one outside this house can allow them access to what’s inside.
If you buy from a authorized dealer they will swap out to the old fashioned dial type combo lock at no charge. At least my locksmith did.
My locksmith was a liberty safe dealer, unfortunately
“Google” it?!
Restore Privacy website has lots of info people here could use.
http://www.restoreprivacy.com
you’d have to be insane to use an electronic combination lock
didn’t anyone read One Second After?
I read it and forgot about that aspect of it. Thank you for the reminder!
Great reading.
Yes that was a great read!
Read it, great book. Some safes allow for the electronic mechanism to be removed and the safe opened with a key, similar to a vending machine key. So, I can still open my safe in the event of an event.
Go for the fix if your choice is that. But pass along to everyone you know, DO NOT BUY anything Liberty going forward. They need to be put out of business. This is how we do it!
In a Liberty safe you can just change the 6 digit combo yourself. Liberty won’t have it unless you give it to them
Doesn’t matter. Sounds like the feds had a backdoor code, not the actual safe combo.
Changing the code does not eliminate the backdoor code.
There is no “backdoor” code. What Liberty gave them was the owner’s electronic combination that the owner provided Liberty at registration. Liberty recommends you supply it in case you forget it. I didn’t give it to them when I registered mine.
How can you be sure there is no backdoor code to an electronic lock?
Kind of like ” Administrator level access” ?
Couldn’t be sure without access to the firmware programming itself embedded within the device.
Basically would have to reverse-engineer it.
There ARE backdoors even in HOTEL safes!!!
Believe me, the Indian families that owns the hotels & a few of their employees can override EVERY safe in EVERY room.
The electronic locks have a factory reset combo in case you forgot it need to change a your combo.
But what if there some kind of “back door” access code they can give the FBI?
well, there the next person down knows about that very thing! thank you!
Bingo!
Not only is my Zanotti Armor gunsafe a manual combination, it breaks down into 6 pieces to be easily moved.
That’s exactly what I did last March. Changed out to a non electronic lock and as soon as the technician left, changed the combo.
Those “mandated” electric cars will be a hoot.
Our old EMP-proof 56 Ford just keeps looking better every day.
Had my old Volvo station wagon for twenty years and gave it to a young family in need before all the dots got connected for me. I’m missing that old car!
03 Dodge with a Cummins and a 6 speed. We can drag it to start it if need be.
Automotive dystopia is already here and it’s not populated by just electric cars.
Automakers make more money off the telemetrics cars now collect than the cars themselves. They resell the data to advertisers. The data is very specific and can be used to learn how many people are in a car (by the doors opening and closing), where and when they are driving, etc. One guy was even acquitted of a rape charge based on his car’s data… it revealed he was the only person in the car at the time.
Any car that collects telemetrics can track where you go, when you go there, who you go with, and how long you are there.
Then there is software locking. For example BMW installs luxury features like heated seats but then disables use until the owner buys a monthly subscription. If you don’t pay for the heated seats package, they don’t work.
How do you know if your vehicle has telemetrics and is there a way to block/stop it ?
The telemetrics are going to be using the same connections as say, that OnStar package on newer vehicles.
Combination of wireless technologies e.g. 3g/4g cellular and geolocation by GPS and/or cell tower triangulation.
I would challenge them in a heartbeat if they claimed to know how many people were in my car just by doors opening and closing.
I have to open the backseat doors on almost every trip – usually to get the stupid bought grocery bags I’m forced into since my town banned plastic ones.
Plus I am always opening extra doors to pack and unpack 🎶 equipment and instruments.
I pack up 4 dogs almost everywhere I go. 🤣
Does the telemetric system know if you tied a dog cage on the top of your station wagon and that was where your dog rode?
HAVE to ASK Pierre Delecto
supposedly back in D.C.
At the rate our government is functioning, they’ll put an electronic homing signal in each so that they can override the driving mechanism so they can make it drive to the local law enforcement so you can be arrest.
Are there grounds for a class action suit?
If they can break into my safe then it’s not really a safe and they sold me a product based on fraud.
And does anyone know of any third-party companies that sell replacement locks?
In order for c/a suit, a “class” of people must have actionable cause. That would mean tens of thousands, if not millions, of Liberty safe owners would’ve had to have their codes give to law enforcement. And even then, liberal judge would likely side with Liberty.
Lesson: Just because a company calls themselves Liberty, or Patriot, or Black Rifle Coffee (who are anything but conservatives, having said Kyle Rittenhouse was wrong) doesn’t mean they have conservative values, morals, or motives.
That’s not the worst thing BRCC has done. Look up the details of the lawsuit filed by their former accountant. Disgusting that they still get support from any conservative.
Nice class action lawsuit….
Liberty Safe just made my FU list.
Seems it grows by the day.
I heard a Liberty Safe commercial on the terrestrial radio here in N. Central Fla. that said Guantanamo ron! waived all sales tax on gun safes in the State. At least if you can’t replace the lock with something not backdoored, maybe you can find a company that isn’t shady.
Looks like the only ‘safe’ place to hide your valuables is in a can buried in the back yard. Might want to plant some poison ivy for a ‘safer’ measure.
Use a plastic container. Metal cans be found with a metal detector.
Metal rust and sweat.🤣😂
Swet#
Indeed, so can the krugerrands.
pro tip right there
It was a custom in my Orlando suburb to give your buddy a bougainvillea when he had a daughter born, so he could plant it outside the window of what would be her room. By the time the buddy had to worry about her sneaking out the window or boys sneaking in, the plant would be an impassable thorny mess!
In the beehives!
I’m split on this one. The headline sounds awful. But is it beneficial for Liberty and other mfrs to have a way of generating a per-safe master code to use for licit purposes if the customer needs into their safe? A safe doesn’t keep people out of a safe, it only serves to deter them from e tering a safe, or slowing them down if they’re determined. The FBI was gonna get inside that safe either way, now the fella still has a safe and can modify the locking system if he wants.
The auspices of the investigation (and therefore the warrant) are bunk, but if there were a judicially sound reason for this warrant to be served then is this really a somethingburger?
Liberty willingly put themselves into the wrong position.
“WE DON”T OWN THE SAFE” is the right position.
Point missed
“ The FBI was gonna get inside that safe either way, now the fella still has a safe and can modify the locking system if he wants.”
That was HIS decision to make and NOT Liberty’s.
The warrant to search the premises entitles the FBI to open it and look inside. If Mr. Hughes refused to open it than the FBI could open it anyway they see fit.
Another thought:
Apple at least allegedly does not comply with the US government insofar as they don’t provide access to unlock iphones. I’m guessing when the FBI does manage to access iphones, it’s because the Israeli company that does that remote 0-click spyware services probably provided the access the feds needed. I guess we’ll never know.
But you know? This sounds like another Dan Bongino “parallel economy” issue that could be addressed with a new company offering safes and relevant services. After all, what’s missing here is knowing if there is a company that DOESN’T do this.
This is why I never got a concealed carry permit. My sheriff is a good guy but how long is he going to stand up to the Feds who come into his office armed for combat?
Your Sheriff has the power to deputize every adult in the county.
And how long will your sheriff be in office.
He’s an elected official.
“guessing when the FBI does manage to access iphones”
It didn’t and doesn’t access them.
There is absolutely zero proof that the FBI got into the San Bernadino IPhones.
Hoover’s Fairy Brigade merely claimed to have hired a third party who successfully defeated Apple’s encryption.
FBI then said they found nothing of value on the two IPhones.
The reason the FBI claimed to defeat the encryption, but couldn’t, was to damage Apple’s security reputation for IPhone sales purposes as a reprisal for Apple’s non-cooperation.
A few years back I had a guy tell me he installed a small wall safe. For added security he said he hung a picture of his mother in-law over it.
That’s funny😆😂
Any lawyers here? I would like to file a class action lawsuit. Please instruct me how to proceed.
Do you know what a “Class Action” suit is?
In order for c/a suit, a “class” of people must have actionable cause. That would mean tens of thousands, if not millions, of Liberty safe owners would’ve had to have their codes give to law enforcement. And even then, liberal judge would likely side with Liberty.
Lesson: Just because a company calls themselves Liberty, or Patriot, or Black Rifle Coffee (who are anything but conservatives, having said Kyle Rittenhouse was wrong) doesn’t mean they have conservative values, morals, or motives.
BRC donates to the Demonscats, or so I have read here.
They effed over Kyle R. I will never buy that coffee
Aye, Dv. Their coffee is terrible even if they weren’t sellouts. Dana Loesch swears it’s good.
The search warrant needed to be issued to Liberty Safe for it to be valid for the company.
True
To which I reply, “How the hell do you know what any coerced business is going to do before the weight of the USG comes down on them? It is all hypothetical until it isn’t. Then who can assure you that a safe manufacturer is going to push back? How do you propose to ascertain whether a manufacturer has built in backdoor access? Are they going to admit it? What recourse do you have if you later find out that they lied? There is no lesson learned here other than this:
NO business is going to stare down the USG when it is loaded for bear and coming down on their head.
If you think otherwise than tear out your safe and install one made by Unicorn Safe, inc..
Comply much?
Buy an old used safe. Change the combination.
Too bad we don’t have a downvote option for your opinion.
“NO business is going to stare down the USG when it is loaded for bear and coming down on their head.”
Depends on how that company calculates the cost.
Which will cost more; collaborating with a government alphabet agency before that agency complies with the necessary paperwork to legally arm-twist the business or losing the majority of that businesses’ customers/potential customers by demonstrating a lack of due diligence toward individual privacy and overt bootlicking of government agencies.
I view this entire discussion as an exercise in moving the window on how businesses calculate the cost of infuriating and alienating its customer base.
I was considering a fireproof document safe last year. When I saw the models with electronic locks, my first thought was….how stupid do they think I am?!
I feel a bud lite moment coming on. No boycott. A complete parting of the ways due to lack of shared values. I would not be surprised to see a mountain of Liberty safes stacked up somewhere being destroyed by whatever means available!
Universal back door? backdoor code based on serial number to create unique key.
They say they had no knowledge of any of the details of the investigation at the time. As if the FIB would do this with Antifa/BLM. Their statement is consciousness of guilt. They know who the FIB target.
Just got off the phone with a locksmith….
All digital safes have factory reset codes embedded….in case you screw up setting your personal code….
You or the locksmith can change….
this digital factory reset code….
I was wrong on it price of $400 to go….
to a mechanical lock….estimate is $300 plus labor.
Good info to have
I actually feel kinda sorry for Liberty.
Given the Obama, I mean Biden, administration’s political targeting, think what they would have done to the Liberty had they not provided the reset key.
The real solution is for these safe companies to never offer a universal reset key in their products.
If you lose the code, you lose the code.
Just like with a real safe.
Maybe you can still make good use of your Liberty safe. Honeypot. Acme style.
I like the idea of a honey pot. Nothing illegal.
A trail camera.
Say, a ham sandwich to age a few years, a few million in Monopoly scrip, maybe some fine salt powder….
Ever notice how many loyal soldiers of the Deep State carry an AR15? See the AR on the far right? BATF considers it a restricted weapon because the barrel is under minimum legal length of 16″. These are called Short Barrel Rifles, or SBR. They’re highly maneuverable in close quarters situations, easily carried in vehicles, and more quickly deployed than full size AR15’s. SBR’s must be registered in the National Firearms Registry. Many of these AR rifles and SBR are also “select fire”; meaning they can fire fully automatic at the flip of a lever. The better to mow down citizens who resist arrest.
The message is clear: They consider themselves conquering soldiers over a populace of servants and serfs.
once again, the faces of these fascists is easily identifiable… why do their friends, neighbors, and family allow them to exist in their circles?
boot them the fq out. and tell them why.
Most Americans, even now, look at them and consider them hero’s. Why? TV, movies, books, and the utilization of Mr. Joe Goebbels tried and true process: use media to highlight and raise the actions of those you want to be considered heroes. Use visual media to paint a picture. Run with that picture. Embed that image and ideology onto the viewer. Gaslighting before gaslighting became a term.
His teachings and ideas are the foundation of advertising and other media. Colleges teach this crap.
That is why they get away with it. I am 45. I have been subjected to it since I was old enough to spit my mom out of my mouth for real food. My kids, youngest 20: they have been subjected to this their whole lives as well. And the generation before me…so in my life 3 generations all subjected to mass gaslighting….mass compliance training.
And not all of us see the strings.
I’ve hit my 70s and I was gaslighted all the way through high school and college, especially college. This stuff has been going on a really long time.
I only broke out of it by reading Atlas Shrugged.
The U.S. government not only took J. Goebbel’s teachings and embraced them, they elevated them. And they also brought Nazi’s over to “teach us what they learned” from conducting experiments on the European Jewish community (and gypsies, and vagrants, and others). Sick and disgusting. Rewarded Nazis with freedom and extravagant lives (they worked for NASA, FBI, and other agencies) all for power and glory. Fast forward to today- and you can understand why they embrace a a person that vocally embraces Nazism but hides behind his Jewish heritage: Mr. Soros. And even now he and his son have unfettered access to the White House.
Just ask why? And yet, many Americans will turn and call us, you, me, conspiracy nuts- yet, the links to nazism by the Soros clan is right in the open.
Yep. These dudes are not Dim voters…they’re solidly GOPe.
Bet on it. Apparatus & status quo squishes.
It’s only a matter of time before many of these weapons fall into Patriot hands. The feds aren’t hiring the best of us.
SBR are governed under the National Firearms Act of 1934, often called NFA for short. SBR are legal in most states to buy, own, and shoot. The process requires filling out paperwork in duplicate, affixing a passport sized color photo to the forms, getting fingerprinted on FBI print cards (local PD’s will do the fingerprinting), and mailing the print cards and forms to BATF, along with a check payable to US Treasury Dept for $200 as a “transfer tax”.
The current wait is about a year!!!
The NFA put control of SBR, machine guns, suppressors, and more under the Treasury Dept. And so, machine guns and SBR, et al are governed under a TAX STATUTE. Whenever you read of someone convicted for illegal transfer or possession of machine gun, etc, it means they never paid the $200 tax. Thus, they’re found guilty, fined, and sent to prison under a tax statute!
Your last paragraph is also known as tyranny and violates the Constitution. We know this but yet it continues to happen.
Why?
Cuz they use kids, tv, graphics, lies, propaganda, and “muh feelz” to convince the morons to go along.
Mow down? Like a 74 old, overweight man on a cane?
Hitler’s willing executioners…..
These are the fascist faces of GOPe voters.
These are Kemp type guys.
Liberty is an interesting name for the company.
Somewhere, Orwell chuckles.
Does it appear we are already living under a communist regime?
I used to try and imagine what it was like living under the more creative and less scrupulous of the Caesars.
Now I just read the news.
Since Liberty did it, I suspect all the other safe manufacturers would, too.
Rejoice tree clingers! In one fell swoop the Bolsheviks have created a market for “government proof safes”. Our motto: “Nobody can get into your safe- not even us!”
A metal trashcan, a hardened chain and a big quality lock is starting to like an alternative to having an E-Safe.
Or a shotgun and a chair, with you placed next to you valuables.
Why should old Hollywood movies have the market cornered on “Ma, hide the kids. Pa’s about to make a mess. Those darn rascals from town are here.”
In software we call it write only memory.
The only thing you own, is what can’t be taken you.
They won’t be worth much if the word gets out.
While I am fine with Liberty Safes getting clobbered because of this, just so you all know, every electronic lock will have a reset function.
Every. One.
Of course no one advertises this but security professionals know this and the Feds certainly knew or they wouldn’t have asked for it.
And you can put a manual lock on your safe if you wish, however, they can be picked by someone who knows what they are doing. There are various techniques employed for every manufacturer out there. The feds know this too. It’s not even that difficult to do. It’s considered a hobby by some and there are lock picking contests. The question is never if, but, how fast any particular lock can be picked.
If a government entity can find your safe, consider it opened. Period.
The only protection we ever had against this was the Constitution which is now so much wet toilet paper to the Feds.
As we all have witnessed in the last decades.
It’s not about the damn lock and combo. For fudge sakes, why is this so hard?
It’s about their willingness to share the info. They don’t own the safe. The warrant is not for them. Sundance is spot on, the only response should have been: we don’t own the safe.
I just called liberty safe customer service 1-800-247-5625
I left a message for them to call me back. I intend on tying up their time telling them that I want to return the save that I just bought. I’ll let you know how we make out.
All security can be defeated…
Of COURSE it is not about the lock combo. Work on your reading comprehension and stop with the attitude.
I am replying here to the many people trying to be helpful saying that you should just get a different safe, or change your lock combo, or get a manual lock.
None of those things will help in any way.
Your safety deposit box is not safe, your lawyer’s office is not safe. Your personal papers and your person are not safe anywhere at all. Because the Constitution means nothing to these people. Less than nothing.
The outrage against this company is well deserved because they presented themselves as having our backs.
But, in reality, trust no one. There is not a single company you can trust.
Not. One. It doesn’t matter what the company’s response SHOULD have been, that’s a given. But a refusal would have barely slowed the Feds down and people need to know this.
This reply was to Paul Revere’s Horse.
It’s not about the lock and combo but you focus on the lock and combo. Coupled with a tirade on other supposed options to keep your valuables safe. Then you say outrage is deserved but don’t trust no one.
My reading comprehension is just fine. Work on you delivery. You finish with “But a refusal would have barely slowed the Feds down and people need to know this.”
So spare me your hurt feelings…..your point was all over the place and my comprehension of that was just fine. Make up your mind on the message you were trying to convey.
I am changing all my passwords to “Operation_Hurricane”
Glenn Beck must be crying the blues, I remember him saying all those priceless artifacts of history he has gained over the years are in Liberty Safes, was even a sponsor of his “Blaze” operation. My my nothing is safe anymore.
First, why does Liberty even hold an override code for their safes.
The code dies with the owner. Some friends ran into this issue when they were buying a house. The sellers (children of the previous owners who had passed away) didn’t even know about the floor safe in the master bedroom closet. They found it showing the house. Ultimately the sellers had to call a locksmith to remove the safe and open it off site.
The EULA to the safe clearly says you are licensing the safe only and it remains the property of the safe manufacturer. If you do not agree to that, stop using the safe.
I say this as sarcasm, but on the realistic note this is exactly the license you agree to when you buy an iPhone (iPhone remains Apple’s) and software such as Windows OS license. It remains the property of the manufacturer and you are just allowed to “use” it.
You will own nothing and you will be happy!
In this case if you own a liberty safe it will be a sure fire way to own nothing that is in your safe either 😀
Interesting you say that. I remember reading that on my bank card, too. That it remains the property of the bank. I always thought it was strange, but now you’ve opened my eyes to the legal side of that statement. Thanks!
(I’m in Australia)
The next Bud Light social media marketing self destruct story.
Why would I every buy a safe that the seller can open?
NOTE: The warrant wasn’t issued to Liberty Safe. They could/should have said no!
Truthfully, you can get into one of those cheap residential security containers faster than you can make a call to get the combination.
A lot of them one only needs to smack the bottom of the lock which has slots that set on screws. Pull out the wires and connect across a (9 volt flashlight battery). Voila.
Don’t even talk about cutting or bending the metal. Aircraft sheetmetal guys will cut through one in a minute or two.
Real safes are expensive, and, “Liberty,” doesn’t sell them, and, neither do they protect your Liberty.
The purpose of the safe is to the prevent theft of guns,, not to prevent them from falling into the hands of the government. If the FBI comes to my door, for any reasons, I have a bunch of serious issues, the guns are just one of them. I am 100% against what Liberty did, and hope they review their polices in light of this backlash.
I can’t help believe that this was likely the plan all along. Seems like they’re another pretend Conservative company like Black Rifle Coffee. Get all the data of the MAGA-believing Americans.
I was just cleaning out a relative’s house. There’s a safe in a corner of the basement floor, for which I have the access code.
I was going to sell it, but now I think I’ll keep it. It was manufactured in 1938.
Time to BudLite Liberty.
“Liberty Safe is committed to preserving our customers rights…” apparently not so much.
Deep dive on Liberty Safes: Sold to the Private Equity (PE-Management and Acquisitions) firm Compass Diversified in 2010, later sold to another (current) PE firm, Monomoy Capital Partners in July of 2021. Monomoy expected a gain on the sale of between $75M-$85M USD. Current portfolio management of Liberty is apparently shared among four Monomoy employees, including one of the founding CEO’s, Justin Hillenbrand. Others include Danny Kaplan, Ethan Klemperer, and Hasan Niazi. Klemperer was the previous operations president of Cerberus. (ring any bells, Remington fans?) That having been said, it’s doubtful that Liberty Safe’s management staff in Utah had any say in “releasing the backdoor code” to the FBI. Monomoy is the moneybags of the company. Keep in mind that the Liberty brand includes multinational sales and support of many different private store brands, including Cabela’s, Winchester, Field & Stream, etc. In short, they’re one of the largest safe manufacturing and distribution companies in the county. So, the question is, why would a PE/Capital Asset Management firm which will ultimately sell the company when the time is right (you’ve all heard of “exit strategies”, right?) want to torpedo the reputation of their asset? Maybe someone with more knowledge of PE/VC/Asset Management strategies can step up and answer that. But no matter, don’t bother calling Liberty Safe in Utah. The money is with Monomoy in Connecticut. Just don’t but a safe with a digital lock, and if you do, change it out for an S&G rotary dial. About $350, and if they want to get into my safe they’ll have to bring detcord.
Do you think Liberty Unsafe would have handed over the codes if it was Hunters safe they wanted crack???
F**K —-
JB
HB
Disney
Target
Google
Facebook
Liberty Unsafe
Amazon
Pfizer
Faucci,
and a host of others.
We must stop supporting these NWO entities, or they will just grow stronger and more tyrannical.
We have to start hitting where it hurt$$$$.
They know who the FIB target.
If its digital all you need to add is a backdoor code. That applies to Everything digital.
There are many other items people own that I am sure a company have installed a backdoor code.
Anthing digital you own can be compromized easily it seems.👀😳
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The merger of state and corporate power is the very definition of fascism.
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
– Benito Mussolini (the world’s greatest expert on fascism – until he died)
BTW, RFK Jr. knows what fascism is as he called for Americans to come together and stand up against “the corrupt merger of state and corporate power”.
Anyone who knows what fascism is, knows we are now living in a textbook fascist country.
More importantly, Trump gets it.
“They (Democrats) want to replace American freedom with left-wing fascism. Fascists – they are fascists!”
These guys were SO dumb…i would never buy a product from them….even liberals won’t buy this product…they are fkd
Kind of like our government approaching Apple to help unlock an iPhone. I think Apple refused but they do supply data if a warrant is issued.
Safes just slow the burglar down a bit. There are some tools now that cut into safes quite readily.
The FEDs are lazy and threatened Liberty with an unspoken word.
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket is a good axiom.
Bottom line is that once the FEDs are in your house, they get whatever they want and we have no say in the matter. Just ask our 45th President.
Always good to keep a hidey hole or two or three…or…!
This really underscores how badly we need a parallel economy to avoid all of these types of Companies!!! 😝
Finding a non-Liberty company is very difficult, the fascists own mostly everything. Especially the major corporations who in turn buy all the smaller ones. Name me one major corporation with MAGA values.
Anyone storing important items in something that says “important stuff inside” has not been paying attention in history class.
You can always buy a new electronic lock For it
Sounds like it is easier to access the override code of a Liberty safe than it is to unlock the radio in my old truck after the battery died.
I counted 10 vehicles entering Mr. Hughes’ property… 7 on the initial arrival followed by 3 more about 11 minutes later. And they held his girlfriend at gunpoint? Nothing stopping them folks. Nothing to see here, move along… Infuriating
Buy a real safe from Sturdy Safe. They allow you to customize with a real spin dial (or two if you like), which allows you to customize the combination so the feds will have to blow torch it since the safes are made of very thick steel and made here in America!
I don’t own one, but somewhere in the fine print I’m sure they have legally granted indemnity to themselves for retaining and revealing secret codes of another party’s private property that facilitates the illegal taking or accessing of that private property.