Rupert Murdoch has big sad as his Wall Street Journal outlet admits their poll looks terrible for Ron DeSantis. [WSJ HERE] Currently with only 13% support, DeSantis’s position has collapsed since April, when WSJ showed 24% backed him.
Additionally, Chris Christie and Mike Pence are the two candidates with the highest unfavorable rating by Republican voters, -73% and -63% respectively. Respondents show their opinion worsening mostly due to Christie and Pence position against frontrunner Donald Trump.
It looks like the Wall Street and RNC Big Club donors are now eyeing Nikki “test the wind” Haley, as the best option to try and stop Godzilla Trump. This shift likely explains why DeSantis’s campaign operative Jeff Roe was begging donors for another $50 million last week, as discovered in leaked audio from meetings with them during the high-brow events in Wisconsin.
Wall Street Journal – […] At 13% support, DeSantis’s position has collapsed since April, when 24% backed him in a slightly different field of candidates tested by the Journal.
GOP primary voters believe businessman Vivek Ramaswamy and former Gov. Nikki Haley of South Carolina, far more than any other candidates, exceeded expectations in the televised Aug. 23 GOP debate among eight of Trump’s rivals. But those impressions so far haven’t turned into significant ballot support, with Haley the first choice of 8% and Ramaswamy at 5%.
Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, who has cast himself as an affable warrior for conservative causes, has made little headway after three months of campaigning, drawing 2% support.
Republicans nationally are rejecting the candidates who most sharply criticize Trump: Former Govs. Chris Christie of New Jersey and Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas drew 3% and 1% support, respectively. Christie is the most unpopular GOP candidate tested, with 73% holding an unfavorable view of him.
The image of former Vice President Mike Pence, who turned aside Trump’s request to block Congress from certifying the 2020 vote, has tarnished among primary voters. In April, 54% viewed him favorably. Now, 30% view him favorably, and 63% have an unfavorable view. He’s the choice of 2% for the party nomination.
“DeSantis collapsed,” said Bocian. “The one candidate who back in April really seemed to be a potential contender, seemed to have a narrative to tell, has totally collapsed, and those votes went to Trump.” (read more)
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Last point… Watch Noem. 👀
Originally the Sea Island group had a DeSantis/Noem ticket as their best outcome. Noem now looks to be positioning herself as the 2024 Mike Pence VP option.
Remember, whoever is VP in 2024 will likely be the nominee in 2028. The Big Club always plays the long game.
Stay elevated.
Stay unemotional.
Stay strategic in outlook.
McConnell will not last. South Dakota Senator John Thune will replace him.
Thune and Noem, compatriots from South Dakota, would have a Koch inspired nudge-nudge/wink-wink outlook to undermine Trump policy agenda 2025 through 2029.
Accept things as they are, not as we would wish them to be. This is a generational battle. We didn’t get into this mess in one election cycle, and we are not going to get ourselves out of this mess in one election cycle.
This is what cozying up looks like:
For the first time since our fireworks at Mount Rushmore, President @realDonaldTrump will be returning to South Dakota next week!
We’re excited to welcome him back to the best state in America to live, work, and raise a family. pic.twitter.com/IXWuKBN863
— Kristi Noem (@KristiNoem) September 1, 2023
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You’re right. It’s going to be a long haul.
Yes, the Machine functions on its own time-table. We’re free-thinking independent particles of it with a deep conscience which drive us to seek some actions which are actually taking place through all the other particles around us.
We just go about our business cheerfully and happily as wily as serpents and when the Machine starts changing you’ll recognize it.
We’re in a Culture War, and as we continue to win the battles on the ground thereby changing the character of the Machine our vote will reflect this. The voting outcome is a reflection not a determining element. Fortunately we have a much more crucial form of expression than our votes, THAT’S HOW WE CONDUCT OURSELVES. That’s how the democrats did it (in a negative way).
The conditioning effect of society at large is a force we’re not familiar with, we’re the impulse of that force – the ripple effect of a good person is awesome.
So “Bloom where you are and pull out the weeds.”
Excellent advice! Yes, bloom where you are planted. Don’t just talk the talk but walk the walk and get out and do something in your community for election integrity. If you can’t get out, then do some behind the scenes work. President Trump has a volunteer sign up sheet on his website.
What is the website?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/
They are so stubborn!!!! They don’t care Americans don’t want them, yet they do the same thing over and over again!
Get in line!
Where does Kari Lake fit in?
Secretary of State?
Either VP or an ambassador. The reason for the latter is that she would never be approved by the Congress for a cabinet position so he will need to get all the best people approved as embassy workers. Then he has to shuffle through all of them for 4 years as temporary replacements exactly as he did with Rick Grennel. He will need to rotate the best of the best over and over for the 200 day period in order to save America as much as he can.
VP is the only slot Congress won’t be able to stop.
The RNC always picks the VP.
Trump won’t let them do that to him or us again.
There’s a very important slot for a very serious Administration – Press Secretary.
Traditionally it always had a very high caliber person – Pat Buchanan: Nixon, Reagan.
She’d be perfect defending the stringent actions that must be taken.
Given her experience in front of the camera, and her ability to think on her feet, she’d be excellent in that roll.
U.S. Senator (AZ)
Agreed
Ben Carson for VP
I used to think Ben Carson was too mild a soul for politics, although he has had an excellent career as a surgeon, he does not showboat.
But now I do believe he would make an excellent VP for President Trump. I think he would be loyal and a very good advisor.
If given the opportunity, his humility, and intellect would probably make him an excellent President and an honest one.
I don’t think he would be a bad choice at all.
I hope your right.
I would not let the RNC suggest a WH pet. Even though I would recommend something that eats reporters.
Not this time they won’t, and we need to make sure of it! I am not voting Republican, I am voting Trump!
Always a rino!
Let’s test that statement.
WAS THE INCUMBENT VP NOMINATED?
1856: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having died in office.
1860: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1864: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1868: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having succeeded a POTUS who had been assassinated.
1872: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1876: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having died in office.
1880: No. Incumbent VP decided not to run.
1884: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having succeeded a POTUS who had been assassinated.
1888: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having died in office.
1892: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1896: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1900: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having died in office.
1904: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having succeeded a POTUS who had been assassinated.
1908: No. Incumbent VP ran but was defeated.
1912: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1916: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1920: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1924: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having succeeded a POTUS who had died in office.
1928: No. Incumbent VP decided not to run.
1932: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1936: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1940: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1944: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1948: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having succeeded a POTUS who had died in office.
1952: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1956: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1960: Yes.
1964: No. VP position was vacant due to the previous VP having succeeded a POTUS who had been assassinated.
1968: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1972: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1976: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1980: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
1984: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1988: Yes.
1992: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
1996: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
2000: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
2004: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
2008: No. Incumbent VP decided not to run.
2012: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
2016: No. Incumbent VP was a Democrat.
2020: No. Incumbent POTUS was nominated.
Whoops. I misunderstood the post I was replying to. LOL
Actually, yes and no.
The RNC retains the authority to detirmine who can and can not run as a Republican, technically with the parties ‘endorsement’.
So, just as they COULD, legally and by their rules refuse PDJT the nomination, regardless what the primary results or delegate count is, they CAN ‘dictate’ to the nominee who their VP candidate is, simply by refusing to “endorse” the candidates ‘pick’.
However, the RNC knowsis they publically deny PDJT the nomination, it will destroy the RNC, hence they are trying the RDS route, and behind closed door rule changes, etc. …
RATHER than a public refusal to endorse.
Assuming that in the end and give PDJT the nomination, he should just announce his choice (KL) forcing the RNC to either aquiesce, or publically defend refusing her the VP slot,…in which case they would aquiesce again, and for the same reason.
They can not, PUBLICALLY defend refusing her the nomination.
She is the ONLY prospect that provides PDJT the “Insurance” against removal by any means, that he must have in his next term.
Exactly, Dutchman.
Agree completely dutchman. Just like when Repubs were blocking Ratcliffe’s confirmation for ODNI, POTUS Trump brought in Ambassador Grenell who turned the experience into a nightmare for the Uniparty. They could not replace Grenell with Ratcliffe fast enough.
KL would be excellent insurance as VP.
isn’t it about time that changed?
Yes exactly what you said, roll in with a busload of interchangeable agents of change and not one worry of confirmation. Never even ask.
They can’t stop Senator.
She might come in handy there. But you do have a great point about using the best people as a musical-chairs cast of acting directors, etc.
IMO she would also be an incredible VP and, later, President.
WH chief of Staff would be another position not needing Congressional confirmation or Press Secretary (which is really up her alley)
Kari Lake should be Vice President because of her staunch defense of Donald Trump. She has always had his back. She has a very good head on her shoulders, she is a quick thinker and a good policy maker. Trump should give her a lot of consideration.
We did the research on Kari Lake and find her wholly unsuitable.
https://americans4innovation.blogspot.com/2023/08/kari-lakes-nbc-husband-jeffrey-elliot.html
Thank you, Betsy.
Sad news but better to find out now.
Whoever “Betsy Ross” truly is, she/it is obviously an anti-Trumper and anti-America First MAGA Patriot! That website link is nothing but innuendo that wouldn’t stand-up in a courtroom trial.
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Condemning families to the third generation for the political undesirability or crimes of members is something they do in North Korea.
Also: Okay, I HAVE gotten used to finding out things that sound crazy are actually true. So I give a lot more benefit of the doubt than I used to. But a great deal of this does sound breathlessly moonbat. There’s probably a little truth mixed in. And also what appears to be some ugly anti-semitism.
WOW! Hope Sundance checks out that link! Trump needs to check it out too.
Sometimes I feel like this is all a movie that is being played out and everyone is in on it except your everyday citizen (us/me).
Whoever “Betsy Ross” truly is, she/it is obviously an anti-Trumper and anti-America First MAGA Patriot! That website link is nothing but innuendo that wouldn’t stand-up in a courtroom trial.
Why do you keep repeating yourself? Just senile?
Bot
Thank you, single-issue advocacy/lobbying group Americans for Innovation!
Now go back to fixing the one thing you care about.
WOW Who can we trust other than President Trump? I didn’t know about this Kari Lakes husband. All I can say is come, Lord Jesus come I’m ready for the rapture.
Whoever “Betsy Ross” truly is, she/it is obviously an anti-Trumper and anti-America First MAGA Patriot! That website link is nothing but innuendo that wouldn’t stand-up in a courtroom trial.
Thanks Betsy! WOW this really sucks!!!Damn!!!
What do we know about Byron Daniels? He is Trumps body guard in some pictures and he sounds great.
He is a congressman from FL so couldn’t be DJT’s VP. Old article referencing RDS but same principle.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ron-desantis-running-mate-2024-1721410
I like Byron Donalds too.
Trump could change his residence to NJ or elsewhere before picking a VP if the state is an issue.
Whoever “Betsy Ross” truly is, she/it is obviously an anti-Trumper and anti-America First MAGA Patriot! That website link is nothing but innuendo that wouldn’t stand-up in a courtroom trial.
You are on repeat.
It’s worth repeating!!
If she was a RINO they would have let her win in Arizona!!!:
And this disqualifies her how?
The article is TRASH!
Gossip and kind of dumb
Excuse me but five copy and pastes of the same content makes you look like spam.
It’s wort repeating!! 😲
B.S. short take
Americans for Innovation sounds like a George Soros name aimed at a certain sector of humanity in order to divide us.
I don’t think that article constitutes complete research
it reads like a media hit job
just saying
more information should be required
we certainly do not need another renegade husband
spouting off nonsense to the media
such as George whatever his name is, the former
husband of President Trump’s advisor
Conway.
I have a hunch that she will be his VP pick! I pray so. At this point there aren’t many who can be trusted.
As an Arizonan I adore Kari Lake but her reputation is too tarnished and she does not have a successful track record in politics. Lake is a “heart” pick, not a “head” pick.
Her outsider status is her greatest attribute.
Well stated , Stu !
I Agree !
Kari Lake has hinted at a Senatorial run for Kysten Sinema spot next year. She would have a good chance as KS would run again as an Independent, with some random Dem. McCain R’s would certainly go for one of the other two (because that’s what they do), so not a clear shot by any means. But to your point; Lake with a statewide win (Ahem……..), and a few years of raising hell in the Senate would make for an attractive top of the ticket POTUS run in 2028.
How is her reputation tarnished?
As an Az. I call bullshite.
A “successful track record in politics”? She ran a phenominal campaign, notjust for herself, but for a whole slate of candidates, all after rejecting all of the professional campaign advisors the State R party sent to her, and without the cheating that was so obvious that her case survived standing, she would be Gov.
So, do you mean lack of experience at RUNNING, or SERVING?
At this point, its pretty obvious anyone serving is doing so because they were installed, and so arw compromised. Hence experience “serving in office” is an automatic disqualification.
And, it does bear repeating; Betsy Ross is posting garbage, and frankly, your “I adore KL, but,…” reads an awful lot like “I support PDJT of coarse,…but A) he’s too old or B) shouldn’t we have a plan B? etc.
I am sceptical of your Az. bono fides, as well.
The fact that KL brings out influencers, so quockly IS encouraging, as it shows KL scares the hell outof the enemy.
Dutchman, to me, is knowledgable, so, I’m with him re KL.
As an Arizonan, do you have any family, work history information on Kari Lakes husband and his family?
I always begin my analysis with the “who is this” question. Associations matter. Sometimes what people are not revealing can inform observations.
As a side note comparison, DeSantis family history is pretty thin gruel also.
I mean, c’mon, seriously, do you really think anybody you like would be palatable to them? C’mon….at some point you gotta stop caring what the neighbors will think.
I agree.
She brings nothing to the ticket. She’s a loyal soldier and admirable but not likable and wouldn’t move a single vote towards PDJT.
Maybe Donalds. Have him move out of Florida and nominate him.
Kari Lake is a Honey Badger and is therefore my pick for PDJTs VP.
ETA – Just saw BR’s posted article above, soooooo, maybe not a good choice if it’s true.
People now have a HISTORY with Trump. He’ll be looking for LOYALTY
Ken Paxton for Attorney General.
I pray we get to see how it shakes out on appointments.
Kash Patel, Mike Flynn, Devin Nunes, Ric Grennell all deserve positions.
1000%
Oh my goodness. Kari Lake as VP? Her open support and defense of Trump is appreciated, but there needs to be much more criteria than that for considering a suitable VP, especially if you see one as potentially becoming Trump’s replacement in 2028.
Don’t let your heart rule your head.
It should be her…Criteria? Nonsense… She will get the Trump Experience for 4 years…
What else could you ask for…At this point in time I would not trust another person
an excellent point
if her political heart/brain is MAGA
then there would be no better training
than working with the MAGA master
President Donald J Trump
What criteria? All the politicians we have are edging Actors who know nothing of the law except how to BREAK IT.
Any American that’s had a 9-5 Office job with a W2 is more qualified then just about any politician currently in office. So please spare me the “don’t use your heart” BS. At this point I think spinning a bottle between 8 strangers that have conservative values is better than any of the pols we currently have.
don’t let your ass rule your brain
that said, more research should be done
however, I, for one would like someone who could help
with the MAGA agenda, not hurt it
look at all the political experience Pence had prior
to becoming VP/sarc
What criteria do you consider important?
You make it sound like she’s a lightweight moron.
Please see Dutchman’s comments above.
Thank you.
I agree! She’s smart and takes no nonsense. She deserves to be VP. She has fought without support, just like Trump
Why not Buchanan or Ron Paul if that’s the only criteria?
Kari Lake is the most impressive political talent in America. If we ever got real elections back, seemingly unlikely, I understand, but if we ever do get real elections back, Kari Lake will be the first female president.
Read post above and rethink your position.
The post trash
Post above (if you mean the “Betsy Ross” one) is all or mostly hot steaming garbage.
It’s depressing that a fair number of people here instantly believe it without reservation or verification.
We can’t afford to fall for bullish*t.
Kari Lake is the best communicator MAGA has outside of Donald J. Trump.
Reporter: Do you think the 2020 election was stolen?
Lake: Do YOU think that Joe Biden got 81 million votes?
BOOM!
She is one woman wrecking crew.
I wasnt sure about Lake but all of the concern trolling here has convinced me that she is the most feared by the sewer rats, so its looking like she is the one!
KL has never been elected to anything and never run anything. She needs experience in governing. It takes more than a good attitude. Trump had decades of experience building and running the Trump Organization.
Maybe being an ambassador would help her.
Trump has never been elected to anything before being elected President.
But Trump had an extraordinary resume and the personality to enact change.
You sound as if you’ve never listened to Kari Lake.
She has a bigger set of brass ones than most men I’ve ever met.
To some degree, I agree. However, she is an exceptional communicator, like President Trump, understands using a bully pulpit, and would reverse alinsky the press-ti-toots as White House Press Secretary, a strategically important position.
Kari’s talents certainly exceed the press secretary position
some people want to put the little woman back at the desk
Wow, Amjean, I am ‘some people’.
I will be happy with WHOEVER President Trump selects for his VP. Your opinion, my opinion and anyone else here’s opinion does not really matter at the end of the day, as long as we do not have a repeat Swamp selection.
If President Trump selects General Flynn, or Devin Nunes or Kari Lake, I would support all. And they could all serve other strategically important roles if they are not his pick for VP.
How about Homeland Security?
Press Secretary. Daily briefing becomes daily beatdown.
Agreed !!!! She would annihilate the press daily.
I wonder if that “daily beatdown” is given more importance than is warranted. Folks who watch TV will STILL be inundated with the same old msnbs over many more hours than the ‘daily briefing’. It likely is good ‘theatre’, but many folks have had far too much of that. Regardless of what goes on at the Daily Briefing, the media continues with their lies, all day long. Perhaps KL could be best slotted elsewhere.
Press Secretary or White House Communications Director.
Slicky Nikki is a temporary promotion. Noem, if she enters, will be last option before the GOPe real candidate is unleashed (to conceal negative revelations as long as possible).
2-4 months for Slicky, same for Noem (if trotted out).
Late Jan/early Feb – Kemp on deck, imo.
Late Feb – Kemp – “Batter up!”
Nikki No No! Nowhere near DC.
Yep, and March 1st…Kemp hit in the head with a 98 mph fastball!
GAME OVER!!
will be interesting to see if Noem is smart enough to avoid the oligarch’s siren call of money.
You can guarantee Kemp is not smart enough, but he may also be lying in wait until the court stuff renders Trump nonviable, and he is definitely dumb enough to believe he could win.
Kemp sees Fani Willis as his ticket to the presidential nomination. Otherwise, he wouldn’t be so “proud” of her indictment of Trump & supporters.
TGP has an article today on Willis’s participation in a RICO election network emanating out of ActBlue & likely funded by Soros. A lot of her election donor money came from outside of Georgia. I have no doubt that Kemp could be involved as well.
But he’s now likely the next DeStupid as DeStupid’s polling #s head south. Haley won’t get the male vote, IMHAO, & she doesn’t appeal to me at all.
Nope Noem.
No No-Em!
I hate to say it, guys and gals, but if we don’t fix our elections and do something to stop the fraud and outright theft like we saw in 2020, it doesn’t matter how popular our magnificent President Trump is doing.
I hope and pray that all the members of Team Trump are paying attention to the election integrity specialists like Jay Valentine and Dr. Zark (Andrew Paquette) who have tech systems that work. They can stop the illegal phantom voters BEFORE the election.
The clock is ticking. Ballot harvesting is not the answer. There are proven methods to stop illegal voting that are out there.
Our elections are run by Optech software which changes vote counts in cyber space.
https://aim4truth.org/2021/04/21/optech-election-rigging/
They test run several minor election issues in 2020 with it, in several states.
Please! Jay Valentine is as much a fraud as the election problems. He has one more machine system run by thumb drives that can be entered into the systems from home computers. AND, he says the registration should be linked to property tax rolls. So, renters and anybody living in a home who doesn’t pay taxes can’t vote/?
i am all for that, going back to the core version of voting: if you do not own property or pay net taxes, you don’t get a vote.
Given how much of the nation has been turned to renters you are shooting yourself in the foot.
I hold the same sentiment. I see little to no legislative fight since 2020 out of State GOP for common-sense election process reforms even in purple swing states where the GOP still holds a slim majority in the State Legislature.
Then again, I’ve come to the conclusion that such inaction is intentional–part of a lengthy chain of symptoms that have to be unraveled link by link until you get back to the deeper systemic sources, causes.
In other words, you can say the State GOP legislative inaction in putting forth election process reform bills is due to then hating Trump and/or his PaleoConservative policies. But then you need to ask why they hate him and his policies? That’s another link in the symptomatic chain to examine. So say its tied to hurting their personal profit$ they make off their office. Well, then you examine how they profit off their office on the state level. That’s another link in the symptomatic chain. Then you ask what conditions/arrangements have been set in place for state politicians to profit off their office. That’s yet another link….
Point is, keep going back down the links of the symptomatic chain until you get to root systemic causes of all these symptoms–the root disease if you will. This is what Sundance does–he doesn’t simply have a miopic focus and angst over symptoms, like, say, rigged election systems, or why the GOP won’t contend against such, but he looks deeper, looks to the root causes that brought it about.
I mean, Sundance might point to things like the 17th Amendment, though of course there are more elements than just that. Even simply the dilemma of how to stop politics from being money-driven without violating Constitutional rights might be seen as part of that root causal disease.
Ultimate point is I think we burn alot of energy when we over-focus on symptoms whilst neglecting investigation into the deeper causes. This then also affects what we see to be the correct solutions–ones that address not merely the symptoms, but address the root disease, the root systemic causes.
For example, this proposed “Just get rid of the Rinos and then the GOP will be great” strategy. I would argue that Rinos may not always come to DC, but are made in DC after they get there as a freshman. I think Rino-ism is a symptom, not the disease. The causes of it go much deeper. Hence, the supposed solution of “Just get rid of the Rinos” is both foolish and futile. They are a symptom of deeper systemic problems. Until you address those deeper systemic problems, you will never get rid of Rinos–they will perpetually be created, or corrupted into such.
Exactly. The atheist/globalist/perversion elite have infiltrated EVERY aspect of the culture. Technology, Big Pharma and politics, sure, but also academia, science, medicine, media, art…pretty much everything.
A root canal is necessary
Thank you for the ‘thought-provoking’ post. That’s exactly why I come to the Treehouse.
RDS definitely picked up some momentum, just all earthbound.
It seems the more people see Ronaldus Meatballess the less they like him!
Gravity.
It was winds from Idalia.
I liked Ron. I had boatloads of hope for him. He was running Florida well and turning it solid red. He should have supported President Trump, bided his time, finished his job as Governor and waited for ’28. His appetite and ego got the best of him, egged on by the Neocons and Uniparty.
He’s done.
He was not and is not running Florida well.
Lockdowns, highest homeowner insurance increases in nation, along with all other insurance rising.
Myriad of laws and executive actions that are draconian in nature being rolled out.
We in Florida see this everywhere, every day!
Food prices in Publix are higher than my Jewel in IL. How do families do it? Wages are lower as they don’t have the income tax.
Publix has a monopoly in Florida. You either shop at Publix or go to family owned local markets. They have no real competition.
Winn Dixie is based here too. Much cheaper but not as nice or as much variety. And been around a lot longer.
And there are other chains, Aldi, Trader Joe’s, Walmart, etc etc.
Publix does not have a monopoly, far from it.
Pre-Biden chicken thighs at Sam’s Club were $.95/lb and last week were $1.35. Out of stock now except the boneless skinless ones for $3.28.
I was in Marco Island and shopped at the Publix there. The eggs I purchase at Whole Foods
were almost $5.00 higher per carton.
Homeowners insurance was high long before DeSantis came on the scene. It’s been almost impossible to deal with the hurricane insurance rates because the insurance lobby controls the Florida Legislature with $$$$!
Again, you keep assuming things without knowing.
Homeowner and auto insurance was very affordable just 3-4 years ago. Very affordable. The main component concerning hurricanes for coastal dwellers was the FEMA or government backed surge insurance that has remained somewhat stable.
My homeowner’s was cheaper than Georgia when I relocated 6-7 years ago.
Homeowners’ insurance has anywhere from doubled to tripled in the last few years depending on locale. And they were not hard to deal with until recently.
Insurance companies have been pulling out left and right the last 2-3 years. So much for control of the legislature.
Some, but not all, of the problem was rampant and runaway fraud that the authorities were doing nothing about.
Stop blowing assumptions left and right of things you obviously know nothing about.
Then Ron should have named names and got the bought off people primaries. You don’t fix a problem by pretending it isn’t happening. Makes me wonder if they are big donors like the power company.
Yep, you can tell who is RNC by how many who supposedly are conservative do not point out how Florida has sunk and the guy is MIA. Any supposed hits he gets are mitigated by how much they omit.
One point though is that Mrs RDS appears to be a prettier version of Hillary and Mooch. Not sure who wears the pants in the family, but I think that while Hilary at least was backing a guy who admittedly had charisma, Donny is a dud.
Ron and Casey are now millionaires.
Unless they are billionaires like Trump who don’t need the money, they will be bought, owned, and controlled by their MegaDonors, SuperPacs. When I think Ron DeSantis, I think Koch Bros.
Yep, they met with the KOch bros.
Jill Casey Black has promoted ‘Club for Growth’ since her gig as a local talking head. Someone referred to her as RDs handler and I see it more & more every day.
Nobody is going to buy Nikki… They shouldn’t waste their money (but they will)….
And, there was a time when I was hoping Kristi Noem would stand the test and be solid but, upon further review, I don’t trust her a bit…
Youngkin seems to be smarter than DeSantis and is not interested in lighting his career on fire….
Kemp is a joke and a non-starter….
As the old ad said: “They’re out of Schlitz”….
Niki Haley???
Like I said, nobody is going to buy her…. Nobody.
But you posted the anti-Kari article… Are you buying into that and down on Lake or were you just sharing that piece?
Did I??? Not I. I like her…a lot!
I’ve spoken of her in glowing terms anytime I’ve posted about her.
She is in the mold of Margaret Thatcher, which I’ve said over and over.
Or as I’ve said, separated at birth, one put in the freezer.
100% agree… Again, sorry about that….
I can’t tell my ‘Betsys’ apart….
No worries 😉
I don’t trust any of them any more.
As we found out in’17 and ‘18, watch the spouses. They’re the stealthy ones that sneak around the back and come out of nowhere with the shiv.
You know, Circlin, I’m really there with you.
I do like her. But it is interesting to read the above about her husband. And suddenly I found myself reflecting on the very thing others have mentioned about her. Where has he been? Why haven’t we seen him at anything at which she has appeared? I couldn’t pick him out of a line up.
Not to say she isn’t what she seems to be.
My point is that my mental list of those who have seemed to be what they say they are and who we later find out weren’t or aren’t is double columned and two sided with lines drawn through every single name.
My trust quotient has shrunk to nothing and has gone negative. Diogenes with his lamp, I’m beginning to think, has a better chance of finding his elusive honest man before we find an ethical, honest politician. Those adjectives coupled with “politician” are really oxymoronic.
In any event, all we can do is keep watch. And expect the status quo to remain such.
Still hoping…still waiting to be not disappointed again.
My apologies…. That article was posted by Betsy ROSS, NOT you (Betsy Jones)….
My mistake….
I shouldn’t have cracked that third beer…. The Biden adminstration says I should only have two!
Which is why you had the third. Enjoy!
Indeed, Betsy, indeed…. 😂😉
👍🏻😁
You posted the anti-Lake article earlier in the thread. What’s up?
I made the same mistake, William….
Betsy ROSS posted the anti-Lake article….
Betsy JONES is a big Lake fan….
Wrong Betsy William Sir.
There are Jones, and there are jones. Bigger difference than one might think.
That was Betsy Ross.
Exactly… Thanks.
It’s kinda sad on two points:
1) That someone with the name Betsy Ross would be a saboteur here among conservatives
2) That this group of conservatives would confuse Betsy Jones with Betsy Ross
Not sad or a comment on CTH conservatives. Just a simple mistake. 🙄
That was Betsy Ross. Sounds like there was quite a bit of research done to find that all out. Who of any of us would take that sort of time? If you want to know for sure if it is true, I suggest that you do your own name searches and see what links it takes you to. Because of the great detail in that post it will be very obvious if it is correct or not, but it will take you some time and perseverance. As for me, it sounds well done and explained . It is pretty strange that you have never seen or heard things about her husband before though. Why is he never at her side?
True dat. Without looking up her past history, I just thought she wasn’t married. I also wonder why her husband is missing in action.
LiveFreeOrDieGuy, you got the wrong Betsy.
It was posted by Betsy Ross.
I believe it was Betsy Ross that commented with the link.
Haley has been bought and paid for since the start of her political career
she also has been washed/rinsed several times as a presidential candidate
can we be done with her?
You are thinking of Betsy ROSS.
Betsy Jones is very MAGA.
Nimrata Nikki Randhawa born to Sikh immigrants. Special thanks to Vivek for continuing to expose her.
Youngkin is a British crown agent:
https://aim4truth.org/2021/11/14/virginia-governor-glenn-youngkin-is-a-british-loyalist/
Looks as sketchy as the Kari Lake article, IMHO…. Not that I’m a Youngkin fan.
we’ve become exceedingly good at purity tests and eating our own.
winning, not so much.
Exactly, as a former uber leftist, one of the things that dismays me is that the left has been showing how to just gather one group after another into a giant snowball…and our side still doesn’t get that, letting prideful principle obstruct dignified alliance.
United We STand.
We’re like a bunch of never ending Protestant denominations. Find an interpretation some don’t like and off they go, splintering into hundreds more…
Hey, LFODG, how about you go do your own research and prove them wrong by posting your findings here. Easy to say something isn’t true, harder to prove it. That person did quite the research like Sundance does. That at the very least deserves respect unless you can prove it wrong.
Relax, pal…. Didn’t say it isn’t true… I said it looks sketchy… There is a difference…
And you have no friggin’ idea how much of my ‘own research’ I do and have done….
I suspect you would be very surprised given your condescending, arrogant tone…
And ‘that person’ simply linked an article by ‘anonymous’ in a CTH chat…. They didn’t do ‘quite the research like Sundance does’…. They did no research, actually. They linked.
And, though the article may be more accurate than not (again, I’m no Youngkin fan), it looks a million times sketchier than anything Sundance has ever posted….
Have a nice Labor Day weekend….
Sketchy is being generous. They called her husband everything but a vampire!
I agree, Joe… Ridiculous.
Though, so Whoseyore doesn’t get all angry, I must acknowledge that I cannot categorically say that Kari Lake’s husband is NOT a vampire….
🙂
Yes. Member of Council on Foreign Relations and speaker at Klaus Schwab’s WEF, two years in a row. Bought his way into office in Virginia.
All true, none the less, he is doing a pretty good job of governing Va it seems. I am no fan, but he beats the socks off the alternative.
He is a sewer rat, no
I live in VA. Was just at the Amazon HQ2 event with Youngkin recently. I do not like him. For instance, he is doing nothing to stop CRT in the schools. Sure he claimed to have rid them of CRT, which he did, by letting them rename it something else. I see alllll the DEI products they are pumping in the public schools. It is disgusting.
We want zero part of that man as president. It would be W part 2.
The long and short of it is folks, it’s Donald John Trump, or we begin our final decent to hell on earth.
There are literally no other options on the table at this time. Only person I would support is the deputy Gov of NC. His name escapes me. He’s a very large black man that doesn’t take shit from anyone.
Mark Robinson.
Saw a clip of him speaking before he got into politics. Was incredibly impressed.
Yep, that’s him. And I saw that same clip. It was about gun control. And he made the state Congress look like fools. It was excellent.
Tunnel vision. GEt that checked and treated.
Do you know how incredibly irrelevant the British are?
“Buy”, “Bought”, “Sold” are proper terms for politicians. Sad, isn’t it? Also a dilemma on how to change that.
There is a newer poll out that shows Desantis at only 9% and President Trump well over 61% and everyone else is still in single digit
Desantis just continues to go down, and from the looks of him He is not getting back up any time soon, The one pac that said they needed 50 million dollars Desantis and group is saying they have never raised any money at all and not legal pac for him. just grifters but of course he would say that now, He was ok as long as they were trying to raise money for him , but the pac said he made too many rookie mistakes and I am sure that he did
but the last thing that President Trump needs is someone like this group who changes horses like their under ware
You are confusing 2 different PACS: Ready for Ron and Never Back Down. The PAC that partners with the campaign is Never Back Down and YES they did tell donors they need $50 mil.
It doesn’t have to be though. When Trump selected Pence as his VP….
No one thought Pence would be the next President.
Unfortunately, I think Trump likes Noem a lot.
MAGA supporters will need to vet her for him and make sure Trump gets all he needs to know before deciding.
Noem supported Trans in women’s college sports before changing course under political pressure. She’s a good gov but hard no as VP.
They don’t seem to understand, The rules have changed.
I’m honestly not sure who Trump can pick for VP.
I feel like Larry Elder can be trusted and he gets it. He is definitely America First.
He couldn’t get anybody to vote for him running against Newsom.
Since WHEN do you think California hasn’t been wholly sold out to Dominion and ballot harvesting?
Elder was actually excellent at the Iowa Lincoln Day Dinner. His manner and ideas stood out among the rest of the elves. Look for it.
No!! Go watch his talk from the Faith & Freedom event. Elder trash talked Trump. He blamed Trump for dividing the country and costing him relationships with his best friends. Elder said Trump has too much baggage to win and unite the country. I also recall him telling his radio audience that he believed Stormy Daniels. I don’t need to be an attorney to know that germaphobes dont sleep with porno people.
I find myself thinking about Sarah Huckabee Sanders as a possibility.
I think, am not sure, but believe that she waffled on J6. Like her very much. Wish her dad had been anywhere near as strong a patriot back when he was running for office.
But I just need to think it needs to be a stealth person who has proven themselves to TRump, but is unknown to us. Think Palin should be asked for her advice since I think she possessed a talent for spotting good people.
No. She doesn’t support Trump.
I believe she turned on President Trump
by not endorsing him
And you should not be. It ought not be anybody on our radar. There are some people putting everything on the line for us behind the scenes and it’s from there that he needs to pick.
We need a maverick who has momentum but still can use some mentoring from Trump
Perhaps Michael Flynn
I thought I read that Suarez dropped out. We need to keep vetting Vivek.
Okay.
Vivek is playing a useful role whether intentionally or not. He is sucking out ALL of the oxygen from these splitter candidates while also sucking out the oxygen away from DeSantis.
While I think Vivek himself is extremely suspect for precisely the reason described in the video above. it gets worse — Vivek’s campaign contacted the guy running that channel and Vivek will not come on to explain things to this guy because he’s an expert on the topic of pump and dump schemes.
Vivek’s campaign site allegedly has some content countering all of the information negative about him I find his unwillingness to address this personally interesting. I’m beginning to think all of his “brilliant” dismantling of popular leftist things like global warming and LGBTQAI+++ crap seems like it’s staged to me. Why? Because there’s not a single instance of the relevant “communities” going to WAR against him for it. Isn’t it WEIRD?! Why isn’t Antifa coming after him?
You know what Vivek reminds me of? Mike Pompeo. Back before I knew more about what he was, I thought he was a SUPER sharp guy with all of the answers. But now? I see Pompeo for what he is and I see that there are style similarities between Vivek and Pompeo. It looks and feels VERY trained.
I can definitely relate to your Pompeo remark.
And good point about the flying monkeys not descending on him.
Pompeo is still fundraising. He probably thinks he can rescue the RNC at the last minute to “save the country” like Hildebeast is willing to be the last minute saver of the Democrats.
He did. But where is undecided???
And I don’t know? Or gas station sushi?
He suspended. Code for still trying to raise money to pay for what he has over spent in the campaign so far. You can still raise money if you suspend.
Seems like a bright young man BUT, I cannot vote for a person for President of the United States who does not profess to be a Christian. I am sorry, (not really), but in this Christian nation we need, more than anything, a professing Christian in the highest office. that’s just me. MAGA.
dman, I agree with you as an Orthodox Christian. Otac Sin Svjati Duh Amin!
TGP ran a good article on Ramaswamy last week. He basically paid Wikipedia to delete 2 items in his biography of past actions aligning with Democrats. He didn’t vote in the 2016 election, leading me to believe he’s not MAGA at all. He also believed there was nothing wrong with the 2020 election, but now says there is. He accepted a Paul Soros scholarship for $90,000 when he was already a millionaire (to go to law school). He was booted out of his own company.
I don’t see this guy as trustworthy, but I’ll admit he’s a very good debater & I liked what he said about tyrannical minorities at the Iowa State Fair in response to a “non-binary’s” question to him.
Nikki “test the wind” Haley.
That pig farm downwind don’t work.
Or if all if a sudden test the wind surges in sc like biden because of some fluke set up by the flukemisters at the rino headquarters.
Noem, I’ve been waiting for this.
I would love to lock her and Kari Lake in a room and see who walks out.
My money is solidly on Kari Lake. 😉
I am sick of seeing the cheesy Noem ads hawking for skilled persons to move to glorious SD.
“I’m not a very good plumber, I’m not a very good electrician” and so on. Gag.
I’m sick of them too. She’s running for something. It’s not for”ambassador” to SD…
I think the ads are great, she’s doing a hell of great job as my governor.
That is good to hear from a resident.
The ads hit me in a weird way.
I don’t like the thought of anyone unqualified as a dental hygienist, electrician or plumber.
It just looks too contrived and everything in me now is rebelling against manipulation.
I read many Ukrainian refugees are working there, just the men, families back home. Why are these men not fighting for their country? My neighbor was asking me. No sarcasm.
Because the Ukrainian s aren’t willing to die for the money laundering factory that is Ukraine.
I get a text every other day about how well she’s doing. Won’t you chip in? Delete…block.
I always reply: “Not a penny, Nikki… Not a penny! TRUMP 2024!!!!!!!”
I know nobody will every see my reply, but it feels so good…..
My “replies” are never ever deliverable, not even text messages. I spend a lot of time deleting, blocking, unsubscribing, etc., daily.
Block, delete, and report as junk!
Anyone who enters the primary race in opposition to President Trump is likely to be in for the Benjamin’s. Remember, the RINOS use money to gain power. Tricky Nicky is on the top of the money grubbing parisites and should never be near the reigns of power.
Reps use Power to gain money. It’s the left that uses money to gain power. Reps have no interest in Power. They want money. Dems want power so they can control everything.
Ironically, their idea of ‘rule’ is to do away with any pesky peasant who would actually make them resolve issues for the peasants. Taking time away from their wealth accumulation, perversion parties and double standard lifestyles is an offense to them, punishable by genocide.
Rule you? Sure.
Actually have to listen to your problems? Off to the ovens with you!
Haley and RamaSwampy are not natural born citizens. They are not constitutionally eligible to hold the office for which they seek. Kamala Harris has never proven her U. S. Citizenship. Her birth certificate shows her being Jamaican as that was her father’s country, not the U.S., at the time of her birth. Actually, we have not found any records showing that she ever became a citizen. Her birth certificate inside link. Haley and SwampySwamy have the same problem.
https://patriots4truth.org/2020/08/13/kamala-harris-is-an-illegal-alien/
its already been violated once. why do you think, at this point, that anyone is going to enforce the Constitution (unless it suits the oligarchs interests), after all we have seen?
the only way the Constitution is ever restored is if the people do it themselves.
Neither was Obama, but of course he held the wild card of being on the Democratic ticket.
This is what I’ve been saying since Obama. Don’t these candidates need to be vetted anymore? Heck, even McCain had to get approved by congress for being born on base in Panama.
I’m not a fan of either of them, but to the best of my knowledge Vivek was born in Cincinnati, Ohio and Haley was born somewhere in South Carolina. Maybe we have a different concept of geography.
As for some of these links: volume of verbiage doesn’t necessarily equal quality.
The citizenship status of their biological parents at the time of their childrens’ births does factor in. The concept of jus sanguinis.
The Democrats will say nothing until they are nominated and then all of a sudden, any records will be leaked.
Knife in the back via Noem.
you anti Noem people make me laugh, you’re on a band wagon but have no clue why
at least when asked you can’t or don’t ever give a real reason for your angst toward her.
just going on a ride because someone said “Hop On”
And how would you know that about “these people?”
I have a memory from a couple years’ back about her failing to fight for real women in women’s sports.
Don’t remember anything else specific, but that one did leave a bad taste in my mouth.
Sundance has those articles archived. Just put in Kristi Noem in ‘search’ and they pop up for all to see.
Sundance has already cited other attempts to run for Prez and cited duplicitous behavior. Maybe not as starkly duplicitous as Ambassador Haley (WHY??? Just why did he give her a chance to rise from the abyss into which she’d been fast sinking???), but certainly concerning given how many traitors have come in as advisors.
I was responding to Sundance’s comment about her above, if it turns out to be true. He stated:
“Noem now looks to be positioning herself as the 2024 Mike Pence VP option.”
That would be a knife in President Trump’s back after all that he has done for her. Obviously, time will tell.
EDIT because after the-reading that a couple of times, perhaps Sundance was saying that she is positioning herself to be in the place where Mike Pence was in the 2016 election as President Trump’s VP choice. I thought he was saying that she would be on the ticket with Mike Pence as his VP. That would certainly give him a boost, but never enough to get past President Trump.
Hope this makes sense.
Sundance has given us some background and you know his track record in terms of thorough research and substantiation, yes?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/31/gov-kristi-noem-says-if-you-dont-like-vaccination-mandates-just-quit-your-job/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/03/30/when-is-a-veto-not-a-veto-when-kristi-noem-needs-the-political-cover/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/03/22/tucker-carlson-challenges-south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-to-explain-why-she-doesnt-support-legislation-to-protect-womens-sports/
Now, to be fair, Sundance does supply when she’s done well.
The problem is that we have had far too many of these who seem to do well and then a little digging unearths some very troubling things.
One GLARING issue is that she ‘vaguely’ cited litigation threat if she signed a bill protecting women sports from transgender contamination…not only was she vague, but she was saying something against a bill that almost all of her state was for….we conservatives do NOT like non-representation decisions explained to us in manners that stink like liberal double speak.
Initially buckling to the NCAA about the trans issue gave me pause.
She folded like a cheap lawn chair on keeping men out of girls’ sports, when threatened by the corporations. Then went on Tucker and a gave an absolutely bizarre and nonsensical defense. And she’s not as anti-lockdown, anti-mandate as she wants people to think she is.
She’s basically Mike Pence in drag, just less belligerent and less of an asshole. Claims to fight for you but folds at the first sign of opposition
There’s your reasoning.
Noem was going “all in” on lockdowns and mandates until the SD State Legislature stopped her in her tracks. People need to remember that all 50 governors at the time of the implementation of the initial lockdowns in March 2020 were on board; that includes Kristi Noem, Kim Reynolds, Brian Kemp and Ron DeSantis.
if she, as a female, didn’t have the guts or brains to know that men
participating in women’s sports is wrong, then I don’t need to hear
the rest of her rhetoric
It’s about the laws she passed. Didn’t she side with LGBTQRXZ in school sports? I’m pretty sure I heard she basically screwed over the base with some of her policies.
About 9 months ago I predicted that Noem would be Trump’s 2024 VP pick. My reasons are as follows, in no particular order:
1) He understands that he has got to make inroads with white women in 2024, and that will not happen if he selects a blind loyalist or MAGA “fan fave” like Mike Flynn (ppl are dreaming), Candace Owens or any past/current GOP house ally (Plus House members do terribly in POTUS elections). If Trump can get Noem to vouch for him… I think that puts him over the edge.
2) Sort of related to (1), Governors are *by far* the most successful of all politicians when it comes to Presidential/Vice Presidential elections. The vast majority of US presidents have been former Governors. In fact, before Senator Obama was elected President in 2008, the last Congressional member from either branch to become President was JFK. I think this has to do with the fact that most voters find congressional members to be far too comical/unserious as they are typically on TV screaming wild things, whereas Governors are much more approachable/level/relatable.
3) I think Trump, ever the negotiator, is willing to accept 4 years of power knowing that Noem is probably a snake… heck, he might even think that he can help her see the MAGA light. But remember, he has to put *all* of his cards on the table to win in 2024, as there will be no 2028.
4) As far as Noem herself goes, the Moonbats will obviously screech as she is an objectively fit, attractive caucasian woman… but I think her calmness and presence would be such a stark contrast to the hyena-cackling and objective stupidity of Kamala Harris… Noem *looks* like a statesman, sort of a more refined version of Sarah Palin.
5) As much as I adore Kari Lake, as I live in Arizona, she will be painted as far too “radical” by media, and her viability will be over before it even starts.
Noem is not snake and your word choice of “Probably” means you don’t know jack.
I just wish just once one of you Noem bashers would offer up some concrete evidence for your stance on Noem.
You sound like you’re on Noems staff and were sent here by them.
I was thinking the same thing. Someone above did mention her failure to stand up for the integrity of women’s sports as a red flag — such a cave in is a hall mark of the squishy uniparty. This Noem defender has the persistence and tone of a troll.
Not standing up for women’s sports did it for me. Next, if her lips get any bigger she will not be able to speak, any one else notice the fish lips?
And she was agood looking woman before ! Now she’s got that botox shiny face😐
Probably had some skin sanding done, she did have some acne scars.
Norm has been a frequent subject on this site. Some good, some bad. And trust Sundance. Go back and read what he said above.
Here are some Sundance articles explicitly about her.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/31/gov-kristi-noem-says-if-you-dont-like-vaccination-mandates-just-quit-your-job/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/03/30/when-is-a-veto-not-a-veto-when-kristi-noem-needs-the-political-cover/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/03/22/tucker-carlson-challenges-south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-to-explain-why-she-doesnt-support-legislation-to-protect-womens-sports/
I did the same thing. Maybe with two of us she’ll follow up and read them.
I like what Deb has to say. I also agree with Matt that Noem would attract White middle class suburban women which President Trump needs to win!
Do not trust any media reports on under representation by white middle class suburban women. We have done enough canvasing of the rallies to know that there is definitely a very large representation of white middle class women for Trump.
Thank you.
Yeah, but you’ve pushed RFJ, Jr in here many times.
So, there’s that.
Do a SEARCH for Kristi Noem on this site and stop being so aggressive…as Sundance frequently advises: Take your emotions out of this. We’re going to sink with all this emotional reaction.
Her entire state was backing her to support women sports and the reason that she refused was as vague and unpersuasive as anything a host on The View would serve as explanation.
WE cannot afford to give the benefit of the doubt to people who would veto bills that are desperately needed against encroaching perversion.
Consider another possibility (not just you, but everyone). We do not need more career politicians. Trump is likely to be less led around by ‘political’ strategists. he has now had nearly 9 years as a politician so he’s gone from ‘politics 101’ to grad level.
There are any number of really good people behind the scenes who he could bring forward. If they are unknown he has the media chops to more than satisfy our curiosity with back stories.
At this stage why bring forth the VP pick for the piranhas to attack? Let that person continue to be actively aiding President Trump from behind the scenes, not obstructed by the cancel vultures.
She folded immediately on women ‘s sports. She’s a GOPe squishy. Brings very little to the table.
We will when you offer up some consideration and concrete evidence she is not a snake.
See how that works.
many did; are you not listening?
Really?
What about Johnson, Nixon & Ford?
Trump doesn’t have to cater to ANYBODY – he’s on top of the polls – he is Godzilla Trump and he will choose whoever HE wants for VP.
EXACTLY 💯 👏 🙌 💯
I agree with you 100%, and have predicted that Noem would be Trump’s pick, too.
People are idealistically following their hearts when they want a Kari Lake or Mike Flynn pick. Trump will choose a running mate who helps him win the Presidency, period. Noem could do that.
With due respect, what you and Matt subject us to is pretty much the same reasoning that MAGA rejects. In case it’s still not clear, this need to get along and cater to some supposedly difficult to reach group no longer applies because not only are polls unreliable and definitely bent on derailing us, but people are crossing over to us daily because the cowardly, mindless, sheeple role is no longer being so readily accepted as unavoidable.
With daylight comes momentum and the understanding that doing exactly what has been done ever since Watergate is no longer the MO for us.
I do not believe that any VP candidate would add to President Trump’s turnout as he is not a pro-forma clown vetted candidate.
Additionally, I do not believe ‘white women’ are a monolithic group and it is dubious to suggest that women only vote in solidarity with their women parts.
The true value of a VP pick to run with him would be 1) loyalty and 2) the capability to learn from President Trump how to govern.
GreyRockMan, exactly.
Rally after rally (watch them for yourself people) has white middle class women speaking up and rejecting this worn out schpiel about white women.
Biden has opened a lot of eyes and a lot of women have crossed over.
Many of the ones who haven’t crossed over will just attack any woman he picks as a Wrong Thinking tool of The Patriarchy and a traitor to her lady bits, yada yada screech yawn.
A female VP pick could help our President to some degree, but it’s not a magic ticket to suburban white women. And it definitely won’t deprogram the hardcores.
Thank you, I have watched a few.
A NY Times poll before indictments 3 & 4 concluded 55% of male Republicans would vote for Trump but also that 53% of female Republicans would vote for Trump. That female % is much higher than his 2020 polls.
In my book, you’re not a Republican if you voted for Biden in 2020. Robert Gates said all that needed to be said about FJB before the election & people voted for him anyway. So yes, I hope eyes are permanently wired wide open because it’s not just “are you better off now than you were 4 yrs ago” but also “A vote for FJB is a vote for President Harris.”
Sorry, but reality is VP criterion has seldom been about either of those.
Recent times have created a new criterion which overwhelmes all others, and its insurance against removal from office, by any means.
Joe gave it to Obama, Karmala gives it to Joe.
And, you gotta admit it works; look how low the enthusiasm is, for Impeaching or 25th-ing JOE, despite both being valid, knowing who would replace him.
PDJT can NOT have his second term, plauguedwith B.S. Impeachments, and only one candidate for VP scares the enemies of PDJT so much, that they would hesitate to impeach.
Given the times, this qualification becomes paramount.
General Flynn?
Admittedly thinking with my heart and brain
I think General Flynn deserves to be VP
1) because he would be good at it
2) loyal to President Trump
3) deserved because of the lie Mike Pence lie
told which was an attempt to ruin his life
and that of his family
Bless you, Amjean, I see down the thread we are actually very much in the same ballpark.
This idea that DJT doesn’t poll well with suburban white women/wine moms is more Jill Casey and Ron DeSantis FAKE NEWS.
Can’t even get your history right, so why should anyone give credence to your predictions?
NIXON served as POTUS, well after JFK, and NIXONS career was Senate, to VP, to POTUS.
Can you say “pumpkin papers” lol.
Nixon started in the HOR were he became the chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Unamerican Activities which he parlayed into the Senate seat, etc. etc.
I would take Kari Lake over Noem any day of the week
I wouldn’t pick anyone for VP that I actually needed to right the country.
Even if Trump gets the GOP nomination the Uni-party will never allow him to win the presidency. The GOP establishment will join forces with the Democrats and again give them a license to steal.
While you’re most likely correct, he should not stop fighting just because it might be the end result. He should never quit, never give up. Motto right from his ad.
This thing with the stolen election in MS might blow everything wide open. Could be exactly what we need to save get him back in. At that point it’s scorched earth.
God Bless President Trump
WE are looking at a bigger picture. The election is superfluous as long as uniparty and deep state still hold us hostage with fraudulent elections.
Something very monumental is going to happen one way or another because this sustained terrorization and tyranny WILL destroy everyone unless we oppose.
too many have already given up and ignore all the signs of panic that the left has served us, with their double standard justice and their hysterical flipping of Constitutional rights in order to prevent us.
Has anyone seen this ?
Is it viable?
Redovoting.com
Former advertising creative here:
I don’t have time to look deeper, but my first reaction is that their site looks awfully slick.
I’d like to find out more about the money and people behind it.
Most grassroots efforts by serious, intelligent concerned citizens lack the funds to achieve that degree of polish.
That said, good night!
President Trump is America now representing Americans.
I see no reason he can’t pick any VP he wants with no pressure from anyone.
The 10,000 dollar question.
Is there a single member of the political class besides him who is not a part of the organized crime syndicate.?
Yes, Mark Robinson. Lt. Gov of North Carolina. IMHO also, Larry Elder, Byron Donaldson, Matt Gaetz, and perhaps Harriet Hageman to mention a few.
He can’t pick anyone from Florida.
Not true. Read the 12th Amendment again.
Donalds not DonaldSON.
Donald with an S.
dman,
Do you agree that enough evidence has come out to show there is a Nationwide operation to successfully manipulate and control the outcome of elections?
That both wings of the uniparty bird participate in this election by selection, and that in addition to ballot fraud, there is gaming the system by campaign financing, etc.
Therefore, EVERY officeholder currently in office, got there because the system PUT them there, and they are beholden to that system.
Sorry to see people are still “falling for” Gaetz, have you not noticed how he has failed to make a motion to vacate?
Robinson and Hagelmen SOUND good, but then so many SOUND good, ..
Vote all incumbents out.
Mark Robinson would be a good choice but for the fact he needs to be a great governor for NC…they need him
Larry Elder is definitely a no
The other three need to stay in congress and try to right that ship
BEhind hte scenes people helping him is where he should be looking and if he’s as smart as I think, he WILL be….any unknown can be made known easily enough with the media prowess that Trump and his team have.
Do not bring them to the front yet, why subject anyone to that? Let them speculate and then sneak in with a non career politician. he surely has some great choices.
Every household (ours) we teach/convert is a household unfavorable to the uni-party.
Every precinct we (MAGA) take over is a precinct unfavorable to the uni-party.
Every county we take over is county unfavorable to the uni-party.
Every state we take over is state unfavorable to the uni-party.
As the bumper sticker says – think globally, act locally.
Keep up the good work, Treepers!
They completely underestimate precisely how much we hate them. And lately even moderates like Scott Adams is spelling out the connections between various media outlets and which intelligence agencies are behind media reporting. The people are waking up! The people are understanding what they are seeing! And the people are HATING them all… the media faces of the IC.
We’re still surrounded by idiots wearing masks. We’re still surrounded by people telling us which words to use. But I look forward to the days coming when people say “can you believe people actually did this?! Unbelievable!” all said in the same way we talk when looking at the haircuts of high school year books from 30 years ago.
Amen Daniel
Kristi Noem is not the swamp and would make a great MAGA VP, she as the ONLY governor who stuck with the constitution and the bill of rights with deep deep respect earned her MAGA place IMHO.
say what you will about her but out of all the governors she’s simply the best and I hate to see what’s going to happen to my state when she is no longer our great governor… before her it was RINO Mike Rounds and we’ll likely end up with a RINO
She owes her political soul to Thune and the SD outpost of the banking cartel
This is a hard no for me:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/31/gov-kristi-noem-says-if-you-dont-like-vaccination-mandates-just-quit-your-job/
And that was a GREAT article that spelled out her elitism.
Quoting Sundance: Noem = MagaLite with a twist of Koch and Corporate money.
I agree with Deb!
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No-Namer Francis Suarez requested a Red X last week if I’m correct.
The greatest blunders of President Reagan’s term as President occurred when he kept Bush as his VP in ’84 and then made the blunder ever worse by supporting Bush for the nomination in ’88. Once elected, Bush did everything he could to unwind the reforms Reagan instituted, sold the country out to China, and got the USA deeper into the Middle East. Bush attacked Sadam but did not destroy him: big error. By getting so involved in the Middle East for NO vital US interest, he invited the terrorist attacks that followed. Hopefully, a President Trump, the third time around, will know better and choose a VP who will continue the MAGA policies well into the future! Hopefully!
I’m a 1000% + Trump voter. Also, I watched Burgum in New Hampshire at a town hall and thought he was a bit like Trump but without the pizazz. He’s a down to earth businessman problem solver.
I just am no longer interested in candidates who spend their careers climbing the party ladder. Vivek talks a good story…for some reason I’m very wary of him. Christie, Haley, Pence, Scott, DeSantis…far as I’m concerned they’re a no-go.
since i live in both SD and ND
I can tell you Noem is a great Governor
but Burgum, he’s Bill Gates BFF and a RINO
who turned on Trump during Covid.
He’s snuggled up to Biden’s Energy secretary Jennifer Granholm
and is on board to bury carbon in ND that will kill people and animals if it ever leaks (when it leaks)
we are a big oil producer here in ND ….. ask this WHERE HAS DOUG BURGUM’S VOICE BEEN ON JOE BIDENS SHUTTING DOWN OIL?…… NO WHERE THAT’S WHERE. Because he’s all in on the carbon scam.
You’d think he’d be defending the benefits of drilling. If his MO is to go along with that SOB Gates then I’m no longer interested.
Did you even read this article re Noem and Thune?
This country has seen enough disaster. Thank you very much.
Okay, Noem dumps Thune and supports President Trump!
Do you think any true MAGA would ever be so stupid to believe that should it happen?
Nonsense!
The only thing “ a bit like Trump” about him is nothing! 😎
There is only one President Donald J Trump.
He’s a businessman who did well. A problem solver. To me that makes him a bit like Trump but I admit I don’t know a lot about his his negatives.
I’ve suspected he’s just running to get a place in the Trump administration.
He’s running because he is a never trump swamp rat.
😎
The moment I hear of anyone trying to run against PDJT that’s the end for me.
To paraphrase that Brandon guy, “If you’re runnin’ against Trump, you ain’t MAGA!”
As I said…I think he is running for a cabinet position or VP…just something in the administration. I don’t think he’s delusional enough to think he’d beat Trump (unlike Vivek).
Burgum is a tribesman so I have doubts
Ramaswamy is the next big push for the Murdoch family together with the old age additive.
The Maharaja is trashing the Ukraine War and wants it to end. Saying that Russia is winning and Ukraine is being crushed. The Molocks will never support the Raj!
I vote for the line through the square as each challenger falls away, like this site did with the Republican members of the House who voted to impeach Trump. Suarez has already dropped out so the first strike though line can already be added to the epic DC Squares graphic!
I used to like Noem but when she dissed the farmer’s in her state by not doing anything about Summit Carbon Solutions, who is trying to take land away by imminent domain to put pipe under their fields which the farmer can’t use that land anymore ever. This company goes onto the farmer land without permission and under armed guards. Say no to Noem.
Did Ron DeSantis dodge my question on Jan,6?
Is RDS afraid of questions from a 15-year-old?
‘GOT OUR KID’
The Florida governor’s operation went to extraordinary lengths to intimidate a high school sophomore—all for a question about Donald Trump.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-president-candidate-ron-desantis-is-afraid-of-questions-from-15-year-old-quinn-mitchell
This needs archived for 20 years from now. I smell burning wires.
I hope Trump is listening to you, Sundance. Personnel is policy.
Nimrata is another brainless war pig! She actually said that we have to support Ukraine to stop Russia from invading Europe and then the United States. I was speechless at the stupidity!
Actually I’m a hard no on Kristi, but Sundance did show an article (march 13, 2023) when all the presidential hopefuls were asked about Ukraine…In that article she made all the right reasons that we should not be in this war.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/13/republican-candidates-respond-to-tucker-carlson-inquiry-about-ukraine-policy/#more-244303
I’m kind of hoping either Nunes or Flynn would be PDJT’s pick for VP running mate; all three of them have been through the lawfare wars so know what it takes to win against their tactics. Though Flynn would also make a great CIA or DHS head to clean out that tangled mess of agencies.
Flynn….yes, yes he is a warrior
I think he needs them more to clean up agencies. What about Stefanik?
I wish Sundance would be tapped by Trump to be his personal advisor on who to pick for cabinet positions, etc
Do we have any idea if DJT is aware of Sundance?
I bet that President Trump is aware of Sundance.
If you were here back in 2019 or 2020 (covid lunacy was in place) you would know that Sundance canvased all the conservative leaders from each state and then got himself to D.C., where he met Trump, and I believe Pompeo, at a Trump hotel… to fill Trump in on what TRump was not hearing from advisors, as different groups were not sharing information, since they were scared of the media saying that they were conspiring..
Hence, Trump was not being served well with all the information. Sundance was going to do something.
There have been other hints as well.
I first learned of Sundance because back in 2007 or 2008 Rush Limbaugh cited him as a source.
Rush also said that the only other person that he knew of who consumed the news as voraciously as he did was Trump. So I highly suspect we’ve been on Trump’s radar for some time, as I think we are in the top 3 or 5 that the left cite as dangerous.
It was a pretty brave thing for Sundance to cross the country back then.
That said, I think both Trump and Sundance knew the mail in ballots would be a substantial threat, as well as no voter i.d….I don’t recall how much ballot harvesting was on their radar.
….in California even before covid we had dominion machines and illegals given licenses so that techies could vote them by proxy.
Anybody who actually thinks California’s continued lunatic elections is legitimate has forgotten that they perfected fraud here since a one party state makes it a no brainer.
I was here then but I missed that. So important! Thanks for the info!!!
BTW – I’m in Washington state now, previously Oregon and we have mail in ballots in each state. We have absolutely no way that I know of to verify that the votes are fairly counted. Hence, ROTTEN gimme dat government.
Trump knows of Sundance.
CTH has been cited on Trump’s Truth Social.
The right derides the left’s obsession with identity politics, but the right loves it just as much. Noem would give Trump a boost with the “we want a woman on the ticket” crowd.
It would come down to Noem’s ability to corral the “suburban women” vote, and Vivek’s ability to corral the “moderate” Democrat and independent vote.
Vivek is out there selling America First as if it’s his own creation, and the people resistant to Trump are buying what he’s selling.
My question is whether Vivek or Noem represent a bigger threat to America First economics in 2028 when they ascend to the presidency. Noem certainly has all the wrong associates behind her; Vivek is a total unknown.
Love that wolf.
When has Vivek ever sold America First as his own creation? Could you provide a link?
electing our way out of this mess, highly unlikely
the last presidential selection is nearly 3 years behind us now
recently i’ve begun a count of exactly how many of our 535 heroes pounded the tables of the hallowed halls in dc screaming for our votes and elections to be secure and beyond reproach, demanding and legislating to guarantee free and fair elections
the count never got past zero
the voting results will be delayed and counting will continue on for weeks and weeks
my spidy sense says they will leverage the ensuing election chaos, using that opportunity to pull the financial doomsday lever
bank accounts, 401k’s and any other financial assets exposed to counterparty risks will be eviscerated by the money controllers; state street, vanguard, blackrock
praying this will not be the case, praying i’m wrong, hoping miracles happen
essentially, hoping for the best while preparing for the worst
I like any polling that shows President Trump over 50%. I get nervous when the also rans show a majority, that leaves room for electoral hijinks. 59% Trump, 37% everybody else including undecided. Hard to beat that when the world is watching for cheating.
I agree.
I am wondering how they will fudge the general election polling to show PDJT getting beat so they can pull off the steal. It’s going to be hard to manufacture popularity for Brandon or his replacement in light of the economic recession that’s about to kick off.
My thought is that they will claim the indictments and trials, if any of them actually start before the election, are causing his popularity to decline.
Then they will try to steal it. But it will be hard to do if he has historic levels of support (and high vote count) in the primary.
And more general election votes than in the ast election.
If they are going to try to “reelect” Brandon, they will need to manufacture a lot more votes just to get him as many as last time. His drop off of real voters will be yuge.
Ron’s backers and handlers not only destroyed Ron’s chance to be president or vice president about may well have killed his entire political future for any office. He listened bads on him to what a shame. Could of been 4for Trump 8 for Rob perhaps the country could of been saved. Selfish misplaced ambition we may all very well pay the price for self centered greed.
Thankfully Jill Casey and Ron’s backers EXPOSED Ron before it was too late.
I predicted months ago that he would lose everything. I think I am right and if he doesn’t bow out soon, he might lose his current job.
I wonder if Dr. Ben Carson would be a good pick for Vice President? I like what I have seen of him.
He seems too mild and nice.
We need hammers and chain saws more than scalpels and surgical gloves
Ben Carson is my favorite pick. He has lived the swamp, is loyal MAGA, is not self-serving, is not a lawyer, does not care to be lived, has lived the narrative of meritocracy, was unafraid to take on Obama for what he believed in, is truly brilliant, and complements President Trump very well. He’d be a great insurance policy for VSGPDJTMPE because the Dems could never bear to have a black President who is brilliant, conservative, and loves America.
The recent hurricane is a chance for Ron to retire back to his job as Governor. If he does a good job with helping his state right now, people may forgive him for this run.
He should quit and throw his endorsement to President Trump now.
My hunch is the VP for Trump’s next term is someone we have yet to see or hear about, someone that’s not visible at this time.
I can only reiterate, Sundance and dear fellow Treepers, the dangers of focusing so intently on THE NEXT ELECTION.
And certainly on POLLS!
Yes, we need a solid leader here on earth. Yes, we need a leader in America.
But what we need foremost is a revival amongst the followers of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
Trump is no spring chicken. He can serve 4 more years at best.
But there is no guarantee that the Satanic forces in America will even allow another election.
We could be facing WW3, invasion, total societal collapse, or all of the above.
It is foolish to place too much trust in any one person or movement beyond (or above) Jesus Christ.
PRAY for the forgiveness of American failures.
PRAY for our “leaders.”
PRAY for guidance, wisdom and discernment for our populace.
PRAY!
Thank you.
Noem is a snake. She loves the RINOs Thune, Rounds and Johnson.
Johnson? Which Johnson? If you mean Senator Johnson I don’t understand your opinion about him being a RINO.
Dusty Johnson, House Rep for SD.
TY
Oh no, Rhonda is going down too fast! Seriously.
Just like ukraine against the Russians, his needs to keep wasting the sewer rat resources until they have no more left.
He needs to keep blocking any other non-VSG alternative until it is too late.
One week apart. Wow. Shows their original script was written before the debate.
Look at that red pie chart showing what a 13% slice looks like. That’s way off, that slice is more like 25%, and a last ditch attempt to exaggerate Rob’s appeal.
Excellent point. Reminds me of this hilarious and eye-opening book. It’s very accessible and should be read by everyone with an IQ above room temperature.
First they switched the labels for the Others (24%) and DeSantis (13%) pie slices.
Then they gave the DeSantis label the same font size as the Trump label and shrank the Others label.
If they’d done just one of those things (and didn’t have a history) they could have passed it off as a stupid mistake.