The absolute #1 feedback CTH receives both publicly and privately, even by those who hold tremendous influence amid what we would call the body politic, is something akin to … “I need to be honest with you, I thought you were nuts, but wow, you were right!” – or some version or iteration therein.
That said, there is a great urgency needed in our communication with our family, friends, loved ones and overall community.
There are many conservative ushers, many paid for their job in the business theater of politics, who would prefer we do not question our seating assignment – let alone challenge the scripted performance we are told to watch on the stage. Understanding this facet is going to become increasingly important, as the specific people who control the mechanisms of power become ever more exposed.
A comment by Gemstone is well timed, and actually aligns with a current communication question I am seeking to solve. I also remind myself that when I find difficulty in solution, you guys – the smartest and most aware group of our nation – always have exceptional insight that can help me. Here’s the comment:
…”Sundance, When I attempt to inform the not so informed around me with the information that I read every morning on your pages I receive looks of “no way”, “seriously”, and “why is this the first time that I am hearing about this corruption”. I don’t know how people can be so ill informed. Well, we know as it is easier for Americans to keep this corruption at arm’s length until if finally slaps them upside the head.”… [link]
My questions:
♦ What is the average knowledge of the scale of government corruption within your network (family, friends, community)?
♦ Has their perception, perhaps as well as your own, become more awakened in the past few years? Why?
♦ What communication tools do you think are needed, or would be of value, in order for more people to understand what you are aware of?
Trust me when I say this discussion, while extremely important now, is going to become even more important in the next 12 months.
I am distinctly aware, perhaps uniquely aware of the information control actions that will take place in 2024.
They will be very intense and very targeted.
In 2020, they locked down voters to create the mechanism of control (ballots). In 2024, I can already see the control approach looming; they will lock down voices. Very specific voices.
If you are a regular reader of this site, you are generally a person who engages in intellectual discussion on daily events and more than likely a root cause thinker. Meaning, you are able to grasp events at their cause and not at their consequence.
The challenge is getting those who understand the big picture dynamics to stop being comfortable and sticking their heads in the sand about “motive”. Most people are still clinging to beliefs around a principle of ‘rule of law’ that applies to national leadership writ large. We need to change that thinking quickly – or we will be left explaining ‘what happened’ far too late.
There is also a major issue with conservative “ushers” guiding the audience into a state of tactical numbness. A willful blindness within part of the American electorate, a chosen refusal to acknowledge the implications of the unAmerican and unconstititional actions we are seeing on a daily basis.
It can no longer be presumed to be a matter of, “I can’t see what’s happening”, because a whole lot of normal Americans really are clean and articulate. “I can’t see it”, just doesn’t cut it.
It’s more along the lines of, “I see what’s happening, but it’s scary and complicated and confusing, and if I admit that I see it, I will become responsible in a way that I am not if I keep pretending; I can’t see it or hear it, or maybe I don’t understand it.”
Why don’t we dare say what is so? Are we a bit afraid that if we give up the willful blindness we will perhaps start screaming and not be able to stop? Do we think we have so little courage? Do we really believe that we have no resources to bring to the battle? Or nothing more to contribute to the turning of the battle?
There are patriots who some might say resemble one of those slightly mad orchestra conductors who keep yelling, “More trumpet! More TRUMPET!” Many of you are such slightly mad orchestra leaders. Do not be alarmed by some of the strange looks you are getting these days.
My questions:
♦ What is the average knowledge of government corruption within your network (family, friends, community)?
♦ Has their perception, perhaps as well as your own, become more awakened in the past several years?
♦ What communication tools do you think are needed, or would be of value, in order for more people to understand what you are aware of?
Trust me when I say this discussion, while extremely important now, is going to become even more important in the next 12 months.
If you are going to enter this battle, believe me – no one is going to get to avoid this one; you are going to need to fight like the third monkey on the ramp to Noah’s ark, and brother, it’s starting to rain!
President Trump is fighting for freedom of speech for all of us.
Texas is a great place. Soros wants to take it . Take it all what can he do people only live so long.
I don’t get it.
There are those who cannot be persuaded. Their minds are made up and they know better than you.
I encountered one such person today who said when he saw the politicians getting the shot, then he knew it was safe. He was skeptical at first because the vaccine had not been around long enough to be tested. But, he had a cousin or something in medicine at a university and explained why this virus is different and they were able to develop a vaccine quickly. And since these geniuses were all fine with it, that he is too. And there have been no problems with the vaccine either.
Someone else told me “they”are trying to blame the fire on electric cars that sank the ship with about 3300 cars on it.
I visited my doctor who was also my father’s doctor. I told him the cancer that he died from was no big deal because they said something else would kill him before prostate cancer but it took off after he got vaccinated and died in less than six months after…for what it’s worth. (I think all the doctors had to take the shot and push it- at least in this system.)
I think the subtle approach is the best way to plant the seed. Blowing a trumpet or clubbing them with truth bombs just makes the scoffers more emboldened with “audacity.”Rather, a harp is better to summon the angels to gently open their ears.
If you try splainin that elections were stolen, J6 was the Reichstag Fire sequel, Obama knew that Russia was a hoax, there is this uniparty, etc. etc., you will just get the suspicious cat look from most around here.
I don’t believe that you can tell if the big boys got a vaccine shot or a saline placibo shot.
Agree. Another layer to his ridiculous comment about why he believes the jab is safe. He did not even address whether it is effective.
I’m happy being the conspiracy guy in the neighborhood. I heartily admit to being a conspiratorialist.But I do it with a slight of hand since my tag is:
ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY UNTIL ITS NOT.
As far as waking the “sleepy ones” its never easy. It has to effect their lives and they have to consider everything else until they finally see the light. That takes a longtime. Since they all want easy answers and will never do the required research that we do here. The only hope is letting them know a little at a time and then hope they can put it all together.
Okay, I don’t reply much but your fourth paragraph spoke to me.
My parents visited and said that same thing!
I am worried for them now!
Thank you.
If you wrote your own love letter to America, what would it say? This is rhetorical, but the desire for populist nationalism would be in mine.
Average knowledge of the scale of government corruption within your network (family, friends, community)?
Family – limited… MSM huffing libtards
Friends = some get it, but won’t face it if their iPhone keeps working
Community = just migrated to a new bright red place so TBD, but the news isn’t slated just plain facts so there’s that…
♦ Has their perception, perhaps as well as your own, become more awakened in the past few years? Why?
Between Covid & sudden deaths, the endless abuse of President Trump, child-chopping, only gays and African Americans on TV, Disney’s suicide, drag queen story hour, border open, and the sudden freak show population growth, it’s difficult to be asleep.
♦ What communication tools do you think are needed, or would be of value, in order for more people to understand what you are aware of?
I really like the graffiti idea!
Among other ideas, I have wracked my brain trying to think of the perfect, pithy bumper sticker to cause/compel people to think and question the lies and propaganda and to seek the truth. But it can’t be confrontational, it needs to be innocent in it’s questioning to avoid the activist brigade, sort of over their heads but on target for people with a modicum of common sense and thinking ability. I would put it on my car and have several printed to hand out if I did come up with something!
BTW I live in a mostly red state, although it is highly targeted by the leftists(and powers to be) and they have made many inroads here. The state government is mostly RINO’s but they know they have a large electorate who are salt of the earth type conservatives so they have to tread lightly and slowly with their schemes. Most of my friends know about the corruption, they read here regularly because I send them here with article links. I am in a group chat with about 10 people, we regularly share information we find that exposes the lies and reveals truth but even some of them are being mislead by the DeSantis ruse. Primarily because they have young families and they are DESPERATE to have a free America for their children and they don’t see a way forward for Trump winning because the powers to be are so powerful on so many fronts and will destroy him or the country before they allow Trump back in the Whitehouse. My neighbors seem mostly clueless, I realized that during COVID. I have a mix of awakened in varying degrees and far left brainwashed with Trump derangement syndrome in my family.
“Kilroy was here”; “I Did That”… a great form of guerilla marketing… Great Idea!
Rush Limbaugh said his screeners got good at spotting trolls. It helped his show be more efficient not dealing with their purposeful distractions. He went down a checklist. If I remember correctly, it started with them saying they were a long time listener, big fan, establishing a connection with other listeners, but soon came the back handed compliment and then just having to speak up and put Rush down for something, with the troll hoping to guide others along the path with him. I see trolls on here and other places do this all the time. They are in troll groups and like ea other to build up the likes to garner more likes from those reading the good stuff they say at first, but many not reading to the end with the negative part. So it looks like many go along with the negative opinion. Beyond that, I see a lot of rabble rousers who play the negative conservative stereotypes making either full on or partial inflammatory posts trolling to see how many and who likes the post possibly for future accusations, but currently for false flags on what people are posting on conservative sites. Probably how J6 ‘participants’ got a bad rap before it even happened, posters that weren’t even conservatives, just trolls pretending to be, with MSM and govt operatives quoting them as negative examples of the conservative mindset. Be Rush, be mindful of the negative impact of trolls.
Rush was my mentor. After 20 odd years of on air broadcasting I left to learn more on the internet. I’m still at it.
We desperately need a “Rush” today.
We have one, he just needs to be led in the right direction.
Tucker could be Rush II he has what it takes,let’s hope he’s up to the task.
♦ What is the average knowledge of the scale of government corruption within your network (family, friends, community)?
I live in Great Reset Totalitarian occupied territory – the North Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. Most of my close personal contacts are aware of the scale of corruption. At least half the population is apparently unconcerned about (or not aware of) corruption including decades of election fraud in WA. Many of them despise Trump and fly into a rage just thinking about him.
♦ Has their perception, perhaps as well as your own, become more awakened in the past few years? Why? COVID tyranny, followed by constant humiliation rituals.
Government workers were fired for refusing vaxx. Officials ridiculed Health Freedom advocates at public meetings; local newspapers refused to print their letters to the editor and denied their requests to purchase advertising space. Vaxx-pass for restaurants.
♦ What communication tools do you think are needed, or would be of value, in order for more people to understand what you are aware of?
Memes, satire, comments, personal communications and short, well-written, articles. James Howard Kunstler covers the dark dealings in DC in short posts that are suitable for progressives or anyone with TDS.
X-Twitter is currently a good place to practice writing short, effective messages and learn from people who are very good at it. Avoid spending too much time in echo chambers.
Earlier today, commenter Sheila C suggested: “Very local level blogs, social media, substack, etc that make these issues relevant at the local community level. Talk about local officials, local issues, how they tie to the greater problems …”
An example is the Port Townsend Free Press – an on-line publication that features excellent reporting and a great comments section where we post opinions that are not allowed in our local newspapers.
One terrifying evening last year, many progressives had their worldview shattered when thugs beat up women protesting men in the women’s locker room at the community swimming pool.
https://www.porttownsendfreepress.com/2022/08/18/reporting-from-the-frontlines-of-the-woke-battlefield/
There is no creature more intolerant than a leftist.
Get out! If you can…….
I miss Dori. He could communicate in this climate.
Average knowledge is low. They don’t want to believe that the government could be that corrupt. They want to trust the propaganda.
There are things in the corrupt ess we all agree on. (Even some of my most left contacts think Feinstein for instance should resign, and agree people in Congress need a limit .. whether it is age or term limits.
I don’t know what I need to break the cycle. The big problem is Trump hate is a religious experience. The level of contempt for him and everything about him defies all reason. I also regularly hear “why don’t I ever hear about that”. These people won’t do independent research. They want/expect to be spoon fed, and on,y from the channels that feed their beliefs.
The level of awareness with close friends and family is about 1 or 2 in 10 understanding what is going on.
My level of understanding has increased 10fold since I started reading Sundance and I’ve gotten maybe 6 others to read Sundance religiously.
Communication tools. I feel some hope seeing Jason Aldeans song reaching the top of the charts and the bud light pushback showing a lasting effect that there are in fact more of us than them. Hi don’t have Tik Tok but in 30 to 60 seconds spurts people have amassed loyal followers and although it won’t be Sundance maybe someone in his circle can take key talking points and educate daily. Maybe like a ( did you know that …. segment) and the did you know is not something you’d ever get from msm.
Also we need to interrupt the momentum of the msm somehow. Call key targets at these companies out in a mass and focused efforts. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. I’m grateful to Sundance. I gave up tv 8 years ago due to his daily writings.
Hello my friends:
This is the short version of my current observations:
Graduating HS seniors are conservative, or at least listening to conservative friends.
Boys especially, but they can influence girlfriends.
MANY cops are pro-Trump but keep it quiet because of unions. So many.
Looking for a way to make inroads with those who are at least willing to listen?
Prepare yourself to argue against the Man-Caused Catastrophic Climate Change narrative.
Begin with this: Carbon dioxide isn’t a pollutant. It is plant food.
Check out the Global Warming Petition Project (signed by 31,000 scientists)
There is that saying in marketing, that you have to say something six times before people notice it being said once. I am not a good marketer, because I feel stupid saying the same thing over and over.
But it does seem that when I say the same thing time after time after time it does eventually get through. (And then people think they figured it out for themselves, so I have to bite my tongue and realize I too am human….)
I’m very active in local GOP politics, but those folks just want to make nice. The big issue is abortion and the GOP doesn’t know how to handle it with the 18-35 crowd (their no. 1 issue, so they’ve been told). If a GOPer is asked about abortion, my response is “well you won’t have to worry about me killing your babies”. I’m also trying a “Thank A Democrat” campaign to get creative minds involved, e.g. Too Much Crime? – Thank A Democrat, Taxes too High? – Thank A Democrat, etc.
Re communication tools – we now assume every website, every app, every phone, every keystroke and sound uttered, and every image caught by any camera in our possession is monitored and recorded by DC Mordor.
Would be nice if it weren’t this way. But we see no way that it’s going to change.
In Heinlein’s “The Moon’s a Harsh Mistress” the AI they call Mike, who’s running their insurrection/revolution, takes on the persona of “Simon Jester” and plays merry havoc with the moon’s communications network. Perhaps for us a Mike would be useful….
I’m sorry I haven’t had time to read all the responses, and I don’t think I have much to offer.
and it has to be in little bits less than 144 words.
My network’s understanding is that there are isolated instances of corruption, and they still trust the system as a whole. They are awakening very slowly, if at all.
Communication tools: I remember from some years ago diagrams of contacts between government officials and reporters where Sundance was able to fill in some of the names. Visual aids of that sort are needed to de-atomize the mainstream news.
Jeffrey Epstein would be a good start, with direct connections to Bill Barr’s father, Les Wexner, Prince Andrew, Ghislaine Maxwell/TerraMar, Bill Gates, MIT scientists, Bill Clinton, Interlochen music camp, JP Morgan, island neighbor James Biden…. There were dozens more famous names in his address book, too.
The Lawfare network would be another good one. Names, connections, anti-Trump efforts.
Give them the big picture.
As part of my work, Sundance, I talk to business owners and their employees, all over the country, everyday. Everyone is keenly aware of the lack of trustworthiness of 1)the federal government and 2)the mainstream media. They, by in large, are in step with the main themes articulated (for lack of a better term forthcoming) in your writings, as well as those articulated by President Trump. There is a dynamic of disconnect between what “everyone” thinks and believes, and that which prevails in the national “official”(?) narrative. We are almost entirely WITH you and OUR President. But this inescapable reality is oppressed by the politically correct propaganda machine. The frustration with the impotence of republicans in congress, for instance, is nearly unrestrainable in its fierce anger. AND ITS NEARLY UNIVERSAL AND PALPABLE EVERYWHERE I GO. WE ARE SO GODDAMNED ANGRY! And everyone in government and media ARE IN ANOTHER DAMNED UNIVERSE! Except Donald J Trump! “GODDAMN THESE BASTARDS, WHO ARE PERSECUTING OUR PRESIDENT AND UNDERMINING OUR REPUBLIC!” Is EVERYWHERE!
My anger overwhelms me at the thought of our Republican worms in congress. Your sentiments are exactly mine.
THAT is an insult to worms!!!!
What is the average knowledge of the scale of government corruption within your network (family, friends, community)?
Sadly, my conservative-raised, still Republican registered son will soon marry into a family that is as far on the Left as I am on the Right. (Note to self: Strap in for the ride.) Husband is a staunch Republican, but still watches FOX and network TV. He is too wrapped up in the bread and circuses that America still offers to be interested in hearing all that I continue to learn about our world. Digging too deep hurts his head. Daughter is a conservative Republican, dating the same, but she’s young and focused on her personal future and friends. I now hang out with like-minded people through my GOP clubs and County Party connections. I try to gently “uncover” other conservatives in my daily orbit and perhaps enlighten a few folks along the way.
Has their perception, perhaps as well as your own, become more awakened in the past few years? Why?
Absolutely! The Communist/Totalitarians are now desperate, are acting too quickly and are exposing themselves more and more each day. Yet, some want to ignore it because the subject matter is too troubling to process. Then there are others who bury themselves in the Bible focusing on eternity rather than worldly events, uninterested in using their agency to improve humanity.
What communication tools do you think are needed, or would be of value, in order for more people to understand what you are aware of?
Get off the boob tube and search out the truth on segments of the internet that are still uncensored, or on parallel platforms protected from the reach of the arbiters of truth. Forming community becomes more and more important: join like-minded groups such as clubs, political groups and churches. Search out like-minded neighbors, find new friends who may become compadres in the movement. We need each other to get through this. It won’t be a cake walk..
I find that photo of President Trump to be very sad. I have one daughter, seriously book smart, raised in a conservative home, attended Christian schools and having married an atheist from Germany is now a top tier contender for the most woke person on the planet. I cannot talk with her about any of this. She gets really angry and shuts the conversation down immediately. As my only access to my granddaughters is through her, and GA is not a grandparent friendly state, I have to keep my mouth shut. It breaks my heart that she refuses to even listen.
Start by gently asking simple questions. If she’s book smart as you indicate, perhaps questions will get her thinking.
Ask her if she’s heard about, or what does she think of, Brandon Straka (sp?). Let her investigate. He’s the former liberal who started the Walk Away movement.
Good luck and God Bless!
As a mother I cannot imagine the pain it causes you and my heart goes out to you. The relationship with your daughter and granddaughters are the priority and hopefully, later on when she gets slapped in the face with reality, she will return to her senses. Best wishes.
thank you.
Don’t bother with the elderly, “I’ve always been a Democrat, and nothing can change my mind” folks. Instead, pursue the 18-35 crowd, using Socratic questions to plant a seed. I violate my rule, though, sending my 79 yo “sister” in NC (a Union Democrat), weekly printouts of CTH, etc. She only watches CNN for “news”. She has no computer, no other source. Should I get her a subscription to Epoch Times?
Good idea!
I live in an Agenda 20 City within an Agenda 20 County in CA. (Yes, I know it’s Agenda 30 now.) Considering out of all the Counties and Cities in the Nation only 600 were Agenda 20 members, if I recall the number correctly, the dbl whammy is saying something.
The fact that our globalist non-transparent City Council acts in a way where lawfare is learned and discussed in closed mtgs with other Agenda cities, and such laws are passed against anyone who opposes them, its made clear their constituents don’t matter. Constantly projects are implemented that benefits politicians, developers and corporations, at the expense of the community with mock opportunities for community input.
On Nextdoor, which seems to shut down reasonable and factual right speak, while left leaning is allowed to not only misstate facts, but be vulgar and rude doing it, the conservatives are taking over only because the corruption of the City and County is so bad, leading to less community resources being available that people can’t help but notice. Like for roads, people notice bad roads when they have to replace tires more often at around $1000 min a set. And their utilities and water costs are increased to the point of being shocking. Hard to miss that. The complaints stream forth and it’s hard for a left leaner to say how great a job Joe’s doing w rising inflation, and what a great job Newsome’s doing w drastically reduced prosecutions on crime that us out of control, even just graffiti everywhere it wasn’t.
All this while our City has maligned and overwhelmed our police force to the point people can’t get police to show up or even take a police report.
It seems the globalist agenda itself is what will wake up people the most, in places where it is felt the most.
People in extreme situations seem compelled to seek out others of a like complaining mind in an effort to find solace. Writing it, saying what is on one’s mind sets it free, gives it wings. The proof is on biased social media sites and apps, like Nextdoor, where conservative voices full of newly awake truths and facts are finally squelching out liberal lies and half truths.
That’s so sad, and seems to be true even in the part of south, eastern California where I live. As a lifelong Californian I have watched this once beautiful state turned to a shiff hole thanks mostly to government. The stronger the government gets the worse it is for us citizens.
My boss and I both ex-New Yorkers living and working in AZ. I mentioned Giuliani and how he cleaned up the city and she went off on him and asked me point blank you didn’t vote for Trump did you bc a lot of people here (AZ) did! Then a coworker of Mexican descent told me before how her fiancé so hated Trump bc he said he’d “send them all back.” I said the guy’s not President not wanting to get further committed in a non-starter!
Good news though that at a family wedding nobody talked politics and two kids (not directly related to us ) started doing the Trump dance. These same boys were at the WH “peacefully protesting” alongside BLM during the summer of love in 2020! My in-laws are all going to a drag show this weekend to support inclusion and such. My best friend and roommate from college posts LBGT propaganda regularly. My blood nephew worked for Obama and the UN under FISA violater Samantha Power! I have in-laws that worked directly for Michelle Obama. So no don’t talk Politics with these people and we don’t spend any holidays with them and I don’t think we will.
All of our friends in AZ are conservatives and we have some Independent friends who have said they don’t like Biden and don’t call themselves Democrats. So there’s that!
Tough life you have!
And my niece by marriage is at studying at Harvard Law school to go after misogyny in law and women’s inequity or some other bs! Our families are in liberal enclaves in the East Coast and they have been afforded every privilege in the book and yet they all cried when AA was repealed!! It’s gotten so bad we mute our family group chats and avoid the holidays altogether. We are so much happier!
Hate to be a downer but I can see very little movement in my circle. The ones that were awake still are and the unconscious ones also still are. I don’t think any communication tools are useful because we are talking about tribal loyalties here, not information.
I constantly push for separation as the only viable non-violent strategy but get little traction even among people who can see the corruption. Between the Pinochet crowd and the vote our way out of this crowd and the ones who just want to whine about the evil ones being evil, I am hopelessly outnumbered. So I wait for the collapse.
Very good analogy.
When Nicholas Joseph Gutierrez was released after mowing down 25 police recruits in Whittier, CA last November, I mentioned it to my never-Trumper cousin. As usual, he didn’t believe me. I showed him online articles at Fox News, Breitbart and thegatewaypundit.com. He still didn’t believe it.
Then I found the article on CNN and he was absolutely shocked. He only believed it when he saw it on CNN. He mentioned that he considered himself well informed and wondered how he missed that news.
The point is that he only believes what he sees on CNN, NPR and MSNBC and he cannot be convinced otherwise. The same goes for my brother, my best friend and many, many more brainwashed sheep.
Everyone is dancing around the obvious conclusion. With the systemic corruption of our government under Biden, and the majority of the RNC leadership continuing to allow it to happen, there can only be one outcome. Because we can’t rely on free and fair elections anymore, the cancer must be cut out, and without anesthesia. Civil war, in the form of an armed rebellion, is coming. The Tree of Liberty must be nourished, or it will cease to exist. I wish it wasn’t so, but then again most of our Founding Fathers didn’t want a bloody conflict with England either. They just finally came to the conclusion that there was no other way out. Our country and our Constitution are worth fighting for. wake up America, before it’s too late!
I write a blog called RightWingGranny.com. It is simply a collection of articles I think are important with some comments by me. A few family members have offered me tinfoil hats. A lot of my friends totally understand what is happening. I will be hosting a radio show this week with two Americans from Columbia who want to sound the alarm. People who want to know, know. People who don’t want to know or are blinded by their dislike of President Trump, have their head buried in the sand.
Let’s face facts, the federal government in Washington DC has always been corrupt and the people that follow politics have known about it. I don’t think that perceptions have changed much in regards to the amount or demographics of the corruption knowledge. What has changed is that now more than ever before the corruption is in your face. TPTB don’t even try to hide it anymore.
In order to bring the knowledge of corruption to the masses is going to take some out of the box thinking. The Republican Parties PR team sucks and their message is boring and wonkish. Fortunately Trump is entertaining and has made politics fun again for his followers. What needs to be done now is make his message fun for his opponents.
It’s time to go on the offensive.
Between financial pressures of life newly created by Bidenomics and drag queens everywhere, no new problems can be supported. Like the “Promoter” episode in Gunsmoke where Doc Adams asks the young boxer before the fight if he was concerned how boxing would affect him physically when he was older. His response was “I am too busy trying to survive my youth”.
Not sure how this works among other families, but in my specific case the men have a greater understanding of the EVIL among men, the woman have a more, STOP taking about politics, you can’t do anything anyway attitude…….Very disheartening.
Just the opposite in my immediate family!
Sundance, I have learned more about politics, economics, media, and psychology from this site in the last 10 years than in my entire 40 + preceding it. That said I found this site,
https://reachingpeople.net/
during COVID that has also taught me a lot about how to move people up the learning stack when they are starting from a very different place than we are. The challenge is not just that that know much less, it is that what they know is mostly false or at best highly biased.
Reaching People was formed by a group of marketers, sociologists, psychologists, media specialists and others with the skill sets to create an “Anti-nudge” unit to fight back against the UK Government’s considerable psychological operations team known as the Behavioral Insights Unit.
Hopefully people find some valuable techniques here. My biggest learnings have been:
Anyway, those are some things I found useful. Hopefully the other members of our little community will too.
Thank you!!!
Excellent ideas that I think will be very effective. Subtlety is much better than in your face. Thank you!
Here in Houston my Hispanic neighbors are awakening because of drag queen story hour and complications from the jab. They don’t understand the corruption but the reality of the jab is obvious to them and opens their minds that the news is not being truthful, to me that’s the hardest part. Some have issues with how Trump “created” the vaccine but a simple clarification of how he initiated it but the swamp actually produced it. My black neighbors are not as willing to see the truth so far as they are busy with race issues.
Most of my family members believe political corruption only runs one way – “Trump”! They have been so terribly brainwashed that no amount of persuasion would ever move the needle. Younger people (age 15-50) have absolutely no current events knowledge or historical background. It is so very sad to witness. Whenever I present a topic for discussion most just stare and say “what are you talking about” or “I never heard that before”. They either watch no news or the MSM brainwashing stuff. Some people I know have government positions and choose to keep their heads in the sand for fear of losing their jobs. It’s like we are invited to this glorious banquet of knowledge and no one shows up for the buffet! Very frustrating!
That being said my observations tell me that if we ultimately want this nation to survive we have to get back to educating the young . Public schools are going to be a tough sell, but we need to start somewhere. Dolly Parton has a free book program called “The Imagination Library”. We need a similar 50 state approach to this with our history and civics. It would require a megadonor who loves this country and wants to nuture the truth in our young.
Sundance, on the topic of shutting down voices in 2024, have you followed the censorship that is happening to Kiwi Farms? Long story short, the private companies that run the internet infrastructure that all of us use are censoring Kiwi Farms at the infrastructure level. Frankly, what’s happening to Kiwi Farms feels like a test run.
You can read all of the updates about the censorship here:
https://kiwifarms.pl/threads/total-retard-war-the-internet-backbones-censor-the-internet.141231/#post-16569171
“Hurricane Electric, one of the largest ISPs in the entire world, has blocked 1776 Hosting’s IPs which very briefly (~2 days) was a way to connect to the Kiwi Farms.
Hurricane Electric admits that blocking an entire subnet of IP addresses like this is unprecedented. They refuse to elaborate as to why they’ve done this.
HE is an extremely old, extremely large provider which owns an enormous share of all fiber optic cable in the world. Their connectivity between smaller ISPs is unparalleled. Their bandwidth is over 100Tbps. If every nerve in your body is connected to each other, much like two computers on the Internet, then Hurricane Electric would effectively be your spine – hence why they are called the Internet Backbone. The Internet Backbone is telling a small forum of a few thousand daily users that they may not exist, they will not explain why, and they are not open to meeting halfway.
However, our relationship with HE was indirect. 1776 Hosting had a relationship with an ISP, who itself had a relationship with another ISP, who has a relationship with Hurricane Electric. HE did not terminate a relationship with me, they instead obstructed my providers from receiving traffic they specifically requested because Hurricane Electric does not allow it, without stated reason, and without appeal.”
Maybe we have to start our own internet?
UPDATE: Kiwi Farms is now considering creating a physical newspaper to bypass the censorship.
https://kiwifarms.pl/threads/kiwi-farms-physical-newspaper.169168/
“1. The Internet sucks.
2. With printing, I can’t be censored, the site can go down and I will have a way to contact the most important supporters of the site.
3. It would be funny.
4. It would create a physical presence that allows me to conduct legitimate business in a state, perhaps one like North Dakota which has a public bank I need a reason to join.
5. I can accept payment by check.”
My brother and I were raised by a warrior single mother nurse in the 70’s/80’s who worked nights and weekends not affording care for us; she cared for us with love and a wooden spoon. Then we both served active duty around the world. Like many Treepers we have literally lived through several human conditions; cooking for ourselves and doing our own laundry at the age of eight was very enlightening looking back on it.
We find there are those that will read a detailed article by SD or Lee Smith and corroborate and accept it and then those that skip it(which is a good many republicans we know just dealing with life and raising familes) because they are financially comfortable enough to ‘get through it’. Although gas is hitting $4/gal in MN and the cost of everything is up 20%; I think this is forcing folks to ask uncomfortable questions. No democrat I know is openly supporting Joe Biden these days.
Comm tools? In these times of siloing ourselves I would just continue what your are doing, SD, here, on X, and any other tools you can communicate. Perhaps add to Substack as Malone, Taibbi, Greewald, Emerald, et al are really opening eyes; Joe Rogan is turning as well and he reaches millions. Tucka…
Final local take – I live in a majority conservative(65%) bedroom/Ag community of 5,000 and we flipped our city council and school board Red; people are tired of the nonsense and are taking part. Finally.
Great 1st hand perspective, thanks for taking the time to share it.
I am the most informed person in my family. They probably consider me the most mis-informed! :-). My theory is that most people deal with the problems right in front of them: sickness in the family, caring for frail elderly parents, helping children navigate the first years of adulthood, drama at work, the usual daily chores of living, etc. The rest of the world’s problems are just peripheral noise unless it intrudes on one’s life. Sometimes all I can do is remember Jesus’ instructions in Matthew 6:34. “Take therefore no thought for the morrow; for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.” That and pray.
Of a large family: most have a “hear no evil” outlook. They don’t pay attention and don’t want to hear/believe bad news or facts. Some are committed Dems, who don’t realize the party is now a cover for totalitarianism. They just want to be left alone and get what they can. They also have to confirm and defend prior poor choices now shown to be based on lies. 9The most recent the COVID project.) A small % is well educated and interested and informed. We discuss and compare/contrast, largely with the intent to Be Prepared. The almost 40’s in the family seems to have a smaller % of alert and informed realists.
So -all in all, I’d say a fair representation of the citizenry as a whole. But no illegal invaders nor druggies nor criminals in the whole bunch, altho some of the Older generation would defend those invaders as poor souls looking for a better life.
Oh – and NONE of them believe the administration intends to and is actively working to eliminate private access to power of all kinds and that energy policy is what’s really driving inflation along with government spending. Nor do they understand that we already have a single layer medical system, with isolated pockets of private care through so-called concierge providers and urgent care facilities.
Hey – here is a great example of your work and it’s peripheral’s SD:
https://sashastone.substack.com/p/yes-david-brooks-you-are-the-bad#details
Sasha’s letter is the best thing I’ve seen in ages. You MUST read it because it will make your day! I promise.
Each person needs to check out their members of Congress at Conservative Review Liberty Scorecard. The Rinos will show you why we are in the hands of the Communist and the DNC. Go to your neighboring states and see the trend.
Chicago Commies are gonna collapse it all.
Many are in the, “Don’t worry, be happy. Life is good.” crowd. And thinking is hard.
You need to make it personal.
Easy to say how lawless San Fran/Portland et al has become because
they don’t prosecute criminals. Most of them respond with, “I don’t live there.”
Point to the northern VA school where a boy “identifying” as a girl went in a
girls bathroom and raped a girl. School board hushed it up and moved the boy
to another school where it happened again. Ask folks if they want their daughter
or granddaughter going to a school where she risks rape every time she goes to pee.
Ask to get them thinking, “what consequences should be borne by those who
essentially aided and abetted the second raped child?”
Such great questions, as usual, Sundance. Appreciate you opening the door to this discussion.
1. The people with whom I deal daily are 98% leftists, as I live just outside Seattle. They’re breathtakingly ignorant and proud of it. The few so-called conservatives I encounter are only slightly more informed and of those, none are root cause thinkers. They tend to be intellectually lazy and sloppy in their fact-gathering. They also tend to be OK with letting others do the heavy lifting of action oriented tasks like volunteering, etc. They’re as challenging to deal with in some ways as the left. So there’s that.
2. Since Trump’s arrival on the scene, I’ve become more aware of the scope of the corruption, but I’ve always been an information junkie and conservative. However, the last ten years have been like falling down a well with no bottom and my awakening has been mostly about scope. I tend to dig for the truth, that’s my internal compass, but given that my “community” is packed with lunatic leftists, I doubt they’re of a similar makeup.
They typically don’t frame the argument the way we do, as in “good” vs. “evil,” etc. So discussing large, serious topics with them framed in those terms is ineffective.
3. Communication: we need to study sales, marketing and branding and the Socratic method of arguing a position. Conservatives generally suck in these areas. We’re ultimately talking about selling huge ideas about philosophies of life, around pillars of foundational concepts: as in life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, good, evil, etc. Most leftists don’t give a damn about those things, other than for themselves.
I don’t think we can reach them, frankly. I think we’d be much better off focusing in our own skill set development that makes us more confident in our beliefs. Learning to speak well about our ideas, learning about how to brand ourselves as individuals for this cause, etc. Not running away from the culture, but participating in it. For instance, conservatives in the arts. Throwing facts, data, articles, etc at people usually doesn’t result in a change of heart or mind.
But sales techniques, marketing and branding are things we can all start studying and implementing today. Trump himself is a great example of this and Rush sometimes spoke about it, too. We need pods of development centers that help us learn these skills and not be arrogant ourselves in thinking we don’t need them. The left has done this for years and it’s well past time we did the same.
Deanna, I agree with your comments about communication. Excellent stuff.
Within my own family there are levels of awareness. I Am…without a doubt the most awake in my family. I Am here on this site everyday as well as others. I don’t know everything, but I have a really good understanding and I see what is going on. We are at war…and we are in the storm! My brother, who just retired in Florida came up the last month and spent the entirety here. Let me tell you, there are still those that haven’t got a frickin clue! And he is one of them sorry to say, and it got heated! These people…will not wake up without an event to shock the excrement right out of them…911 intensity, maybe to that level. They need to be shocked! Near death experiences will do that and that might be the event that is on its way. A close call nuclear war would shock Americans…and maybe, just maybe wake up those that are comfortably numb and brainwashed.
Been observing the corruption for 6 years now.
Question 1: Observed the amazing discovery of the silos by Sundance, Dr Robert Malone, Praying Medic and a few other heroes with much interest and their amazingly courageous reporting and stance Greatly helped me personally.
Sundance has been my most effective resource of news for that long.
Question 1: my own specific perception of WW govt corruption has grown tremendously thanks to Sundance, Dr Robert Malone, praying Medic and a few other heroes but I see less than 1 out of every three close friends even willing to go deep. Intercession, studying scripture and analyzing dreams seem the best approach for me. Looking for a mentor – SG Anon ?
Question 2: I see the change mostly in my close family. The most effective synergy is just intercession and being more diligent in preparation for sharing. Also, focusing on issues, not simplistically candidates.
Question 3: During quiet time, study what makes my mentors effective and develop an effective note taking system.
My best sources are CTH, PM and DrRM and of course using a browser that sees reality. I find walking in the prophetic
most productive and likewise prophetic groups in my comunity. Also, favor trumps money.
Average knowledge of the state of corruption in government:
Family: none: all are for the Marxist fantasy of cultural paradise when the government helps everyone
Friends: many are aware something is very wrong in the country but believe the problems are caused by “pro-life people” or “Trumpers” or “racists”
Trying to speak the truth to the above people ends in these people becoming very hostile and verbally combative. I sense they are trying to shut their ears to any possibility other than their own belief system. Discussion about policy matters is not possible when people resort to blaming and shaming those with whom they disagree.
These people have been unwitting stooges. They don’t do their own research, they don’t question their sources of information, but instead idealize them. To them, the N Y Times is “the truth” with a capital “T.” They have idealized Biden, Hilary Clinton, and Obama. They have demonized Trump and all Republicans and conservatives.
These are the people who idealized Anthony Fauci and Rochelle Walensky. They would have worn 4 masks if told to do so. They got all the jabs, but now are beginning to think twice about getting anymore.
Most of these people have never heard of the WEF, the New World Order, Klaus Schwab, and think George Soros is a benign philanthropist.
Communication tools: Ask open ended questions that allow them to think on their own afterwards. I know that I have changed my views of the world when being asked a question that I did not know how to answer. Only later, did I admit to myself that I didn’t know the answer to that simple question…why didn’t I know? Maybe I should look into that…..And then I did, I started my own reading into the subject so I could honestly answer that question were I to be asked it again. And that led to other quests for knowledge.
My father and I have been reading CTH for several years, always marveling at the insights and information that Sundance provides. I have stayed on the comment sidelines — until now. Why now? Because Sundance is trying to get the readers to be effective in a real-world, practical way. That idea speaks to me.
Forgive me for responding to Sundance’s questions with a question: how do those questions matter? (I’m asking for an explanation; I’m not challenging or rebelling). Let me elaborate. The way I figure it, there are already at least 100 million MAGA-voting Americans right now. We all know that in 2020, PDJT got upwards of 91 million legitimate votes (and probably more that were erased/lost by those in charge). And by today, three years later, in a true plebiscite, he would probably garner 100 million, easy. In other words, assuming that the short-term goal is getting PDJT back in office in the 2024 election, how does it help that cause to expend time and resources trying to convince non-MAGA fools of their folly? We already have the numbers. The question is: what are the best practical steps that Treepers and MAGA-ers need to take before November 2024 to help get to the goal? I’m open to include “convince as many wayward friends and family that there is rampant Uniparty corruption and there is a need for MAGA-style swamp draining, etc.” as an item on the list of steps to be taken, but I respectfully submit that there are other steps that are more critical, even if they are more challenging. I don’t know what those steps are (that’s why Sundance gets the proverbial big money), but I think those steps need to be identified, and then MAGA people need to be given their marching orders.
Meanwhile, for my money, the answer to question 1 and 2 from Sundance is “near zero” and “not at all” (any awakening is the “woke” awakening). As for question 3, I would recommend that Sundance (and others) take a look at the work being done at Prager U website — their tools to educate, inform, and influence seem to be having an impact. I’m not saying that I agree with all the opinions there, but their multimedia efforts, especially 5-minute videos and man-on-the-street videos have apparently been effective in changing minds and hearts. It’s a smart move over there that the website has auto-prompts to do immediate feedback requests, forcing the viewer actively to gauge and evaluate the effect that the video had on the viewer’s thoughts and perceptions (even if the viewer doesn’t take the time to reply online, the very question itself provokes an internal response) rather than leaving the viewer to a passive experience. Those tools (short vids with feedback prompts) would be very helpful, I think, for Treepers to be able to use for their friends and family who need to gain the information that Sundance has provided over the years (and should be blessed to continue to provide).
First, I wanted to point out that Trump is going to need 90-100 million votes to win in 2024. That will be extremely tough. The Uniparty is strong in elections and they have perfected their fraud.
I’m 66 now, and some changes have taken place in my life. I’m not the healthiest guy around. I adopted 3 little granddaughters 5 years ago. They are now 6, 7 and 9. I enjoy the heck out of these little girls and one of my main objectives has been to turn them into future conservative warriors. The wife and I retired at 62 to take care of the girls. We moved away from Everett, WA 3 years ago,because it had become a liberal cesspool anyway. No different than Seattle. I still have 3 adult kids that live there; they are varying degrees of conservative but they all voted for Trump. Consequently, I lost contact with many people, most of whom listen to the MSM and they will never be aware of the political reality we are in. My wife shows very little interest in politics. I think it scares the crap out of her and she just hides away in her own little bubble. She also watches stuff like Real Housewives of every city in the damn country. She voted for Trump to please me, but that’s all I can get out of her. I did manage to talk her out of getting the death jab. She watches far too much liberal TV and it makes her blind to reality, although she thinks she’s watching “reality” shows.
So now I live in a coastal town in WA State about 3 hours southwest of Seattle. The very southern coast at the bottom of the Olympic Peninsula. Because I have 3 girls in elementary school, I meet a lot of younger parents. They just see me as an old guy with a long beard that talks too much. But they do listen to my talk of politics, but when I start talking about the 4th branch of government, they seem to get lost, or they like living with closed eyes…it feels much safer to them. I do think many of them at least vote for Trump.
In recent years, I felt like I want to do more, so I started on Twitter 12-1-23. I found quickly that when you have 1000 followers, you only get like 5 or 10 views on any tweet. I thought I would concentrate on getting many followers before I started spreading my political Gospel too much. It’s been 8 months, and I now have 22.6K followers. When I tweet now, I can get 1000 views, but I occasionally reply to a tweet and get 20-30K views. So I do spend a lot of time on Twitter talking to people about the 4th branch of government and how badly we need Trump to win, as that is pretty much our only hope of getting rid of our tyrannical government short of a huge Civil War. I do feel at home on Twitter as there are a lot of like-minded folks there.
Actually getting the message out to more people is a tough proposition. I get in debates with hardcore liberals on Twitter, and I can’t get them to understand reality. They pretend I am the one living in an alternate universe and they are really good at calling me names in subtle ways where they wont be called out by the Twitter people. I do believe that I have made inroads with some people who are now definitely more politically minded and definitely more awake.
I have recently developed a bit of a relationship with Laura Loomer…she has 475K followers and she seems to be out there getting more popular recently. Her main task lately has been to end the political career of RDS. I’m going to be talking to her and see if she can partially switch goals and get away from RDS a little bit and move to the 4th branch of government awareness. I am starting to work on my own content on Twitter also.
All you have to do is plant seeds. Just keep planting them. Become the Johnny Appleseeds of America.
I will give you an example of my own background story. I was a “staunch Democrat.” I put that in quotes because all it really boiled down to was, I had no clue what the Democrat Party even was, but I believed the gamut of the news that said Democrats=good, Republicans=bad. I mean, how could so many people be wrong, right? I was a crowd follower. I admit it.
I was talking to my oldest brother one day about politics, namely Rush Limbaugh. I was repeating all the same old lies I’d always been told about him, and I truly believed I was correct in my beliefs. I firmly believed it. I was so happy with myself at how informed I was……
My brother’s only response was, “I like Rush Limbaugh. He’s a really smart guy.” And that was it. He left it at that.
For years that thought percolated in my mind. Every time I heard or saw anything Rush Limbaugh, I thought about how my brother listened to him and liked him….so I decided to give Rush a listen myself sometime later on.
And you know what I found? I found that I agreed with Rush on most everything he said.
And that’s all you have to do is just plant seeds.
mega dittos, in you own time
♦ What is the average knowledge of government corruption within your network (family, friends, community)? Within my family and local friends, it is quite high (Florida). I think it’s high in my community as well. I have spray painted “The best is yet to come” on my house (it’s badly damaged from a hurricane. I’m not that crazy), and have gotten tons of positive feedback from passers by. But one liberal, northern friend never called me back during a visit after seeing it.
♦ Has their perception, perhaps as well as your own, become more awakened in the past several years? DEFINITELY.
♦ What communication tools do you think are needed, or would be of value, in order for more people to understand what you are aware of? I think two tactics will help: Bringing up the draft to liberal parents of draft age kids. They are in less denial about the possibility lately. And once the child trafficking and degree of pedophilia and abuse comes out to more mainstream outlets.
Sadly, I have lost a lot of family members who, brainwashed by universities and steady doses of BSNBC, have gone 180 degrees from the conservative values we were raised with and now want nothing to do with me because I voted for Trump in 2016. In my neighborhood I can pretty much tell which news stations people watch/listen to based on the political comments they make at neighborhood gatherings. The people who perceive themselves to be “oh, so intellectual” subsist on a steady diet of PBS/NPR and make sure that everyone around them knows it. The people who make stupid, brain dead political comments generally get their news from BSNBCNN. They repeat verbatim the Dem talking points they hear, and have no interest in digging any deeper. They truly stupid, who like to pretend that they are just not interested in politics and are sort of “above all that” because they are so busy with their families, etc., watch CBS/NBC/ABC. The ones who are retired steep themselves in the insipid morning shows and many actually watch “The View” and think they are more enlightened because of it.
Fortunately I live in a conservative county in a solidly red state and have actually been able to get many of my like-minded neighbors involved in our local Republican party.
When given the opportunity to make observations about things that are going on in America I make the best possible use of the time to educate and maybe get people to see the big picture. Sadly those opportunities are too few.
I grew up knowing LBJ stole the senate election. We should have never wasted our young peoples lives in Vietnam. The government can’t be trusted with money. My view hasn’t changed but my level of knowledge has.
My parents with limited education and limited communication somehow knew about a lot of the high-up cabals we discuss today. My family and friends are well aware of the things happening today. The community as a whole is well aware but on a limited level. As always, you have some ostriches.
My view has not changed in direction but has only become more entrenched. Ten years ago, a lot of the people I know would have voted to send me to the nut house. About five years ago some began to say, “boy my eyes sure have been opened lately.” Now I wonder about sending some of them to the nut house.
I have come to realize people live in their little silo and run around on their little track inside the silo pushing their little apple cart and are intentionally not aware of anything outside their silo. Until something upsets their applecart, they disregard everything outside their silo. You can point out all of the bad things happening outside their silo but they shield themselves from it. You have to keep telling them because when their applecart gets turned over they will be looking for answers and we have to make sure they get the right ones.
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
But you have to keep leading him to water until he does drink or he will die.
We have to keep providing information in anyway possible until people see what is happening.
I have been considering putting money into billboards and these programable signs lately.
The thing that instantly came to mind is a subtle campaign similar to the ‘pass it on’ PSAs. Low confrontation subtle. Wish I was a writer…