The Twitter platform decisions are making headlines and opening conversation, because Elon Musk is trying to retain his platform against all odds and not really working to solve his problem. Several platform changes are taking place that are being less than honestly explained. As interested CTH readers look on quizzically, perhaps it’s time for me to revisit the truth of Musk’s challenge as it has always existed so people can understand. [NBC ARTICLE HERE, that doesn’t understand]
Keep in mind, long before people realized the Dept of Homeland Security (FBI, DHS, CISA etc.) had a portal into Twitter, I was explaining how transparently obvious it was. {Go Deep – Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop} In part, the transparency of the problem is driven by CTH understanding of the costs associated with Twitter as a very unique platform in the sphere of social media. {Go Deep – Understand the Costs}
With the latest revelations we shared about the financial position of Twitter {Go Deep on FINANCIALS}, all of the moves now underway make sense. Musk was on track to hit a date in/around October of this year where Twitter would be insolvent. If you had read those previous “Go Deep” links, you will easily see the problem. However, if you have not read those backgrounds, this could be difficult to understand.
Musk is being disingenuous in his explanation here. I’m being generous in not calling him a fibber. His problem is multifaceted, and he is looking at it with two approaches.
First, by Musk’s prior admissions, he’s losing approximately $300 million/month and needs to grow revenue fast. That’s why he hired Linda Yaccarino. Second, he’s trying desperately to reduce operational costs for data processing. Twitter has a systemic platform cost issue that will not change easily – due to his very unique issue of “simultaneous users,” in combination with no proprietary content. That’s where he is being less than honest about these changes.
Twitter is a global discussion platform, essentially a global commenting system. Elon Musk is trying to address the cost and utility of his platform at the same time that a similarly constructed META alternative is about to launch. Yes, Mark Zuckerberg is JUST ABOUT to launch a Twitter version of META that will link Facebook, Instagram, and Google YouTube content into one big instant conversation and commenting system.
Zuckerberg has one key thing Musk doesn’t, proprietary content and actively engaged and solid advertising systems built into the operation.
META CEO Mark Zuckerberg has the revenue options that will cover the extreme costs of the simultaneous user interface and data processing, while simultaneously allowing content creators to cross post their content.
Zuckerberg has multifaceted advertising engagement systems that allow advertisers to target and engage with users in very creative ways on his platform(s). You can even shop directly from Instagram and Facebook with the advertiser. Setting aside the other issues with advertisers, corporate wokeism etc, Elon Musk has nothing like that – not even close.
However, Musk’s biggest issue is the cost of his platform. This is what he is trying to tackle right now, while simultaneously fending off the META infringement.
In the big picture of tech platforms, Twitter, as an operating model, is a massive high-user commenting system.
Twitter is not a platform built around a website; Twitter is a platform for comments and discussion that operates in the sphere of social media. As a consequence, the technology and data processing required to operate the platform does not have an economy of scale.
There is no business model where Twitter is financially viable to operate…. UNLESS the tech architecture under the platform was subsidized.
[NOTE: In my opinion, there is only one technological system and entity that could possibly have underwritten the cost of Twitter to operate. That entity is the United States Government. That’s where the quid pro quo in allowing DHS to have a backdoor comes in.]
Unlike websites and other social media, Twitter is unique in that it only represents a platform for user engagement and discussion. There is no content other than commentary, discussion and the sharing of information – such as linking to other information, pictures, graphics, videos url links etc.
In essence, Twitter is like the commenting system on the CTH website. It is the global commenting system for users to share information and debate. It is, in some ways, like the public square of global discussion. However, the key point is that user engagement on the platform creates a massive amount of data demand.
Within the systems of technology for public (user engagement) commenting, there is no economy of scale. Each added user represents an increased cost to the operation of the platform, because each user engagement demands database performance to respond to the simultaneous users on the platform. The term “simultaneous users” is critical to understand because that drives the cost.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Twitter has approximately 217 million registered daily users, and their goal is to expand to 315 million users by the end of 2023. Let me explain why things are not what they seem.
When people, users, operate on a tech platform using the engagement features, writing comments, hitting likes, posting images, links etc, the user is sending a data request to the platform’s servers. The servers must then respond allowing all simultaneous users to see the change triggered by the single user.
Example: when you hit the “like” button feature on an engagement system, the response (like increasing by one) must not only be visible to you, but must also be visible to those simultaneously looking at the action you took. If 100,000 simultaneous users are looking at the same thing, the database must deliver the response to 100,000 people. As a result, the number of simultaneous users on a user engagement platform drives massive performance costs. In the example above, a single action by one person requires the server to respond to 100,000 simultaneous users with the updated data.
As a consequence, when a commenting platform increases in users, the cost not only increases because of that one user, the cost increases because the servers need to respond to all the simultaneous users. Using CTH as an example, 10,000 to 15,000 simultaneous commenting system users, engaging with the servers, costs around $4,500/mo.
This is why most websites, even big media websites, do not have proprietary user engagement, i.e. commenting systems. Instead, most websites use third party providers like Disqus who run the commenting systems on their own servers. Their commenting systems are plugged in to the website; that defers the cost from the website operator, and the third party can function as a business by selling ads and controlling the user experience. [It also sucks because user privacy is non existent]
The key to understanding the Twitter dynamic is to see the difference between, (a) running a website, where it doesn’t really matter how many people come to look at the content (low server costs), and (b) running a user engagement system, where the costs to accommodate the data processing -which increase exponentially with a higher number of simultaneous users- are extremely expensive. Twitter’s entire platform is based on the latter.
There is no economy of scale in any simultaneous user engagement system. Every added user costs exponentially more in data-processing demand, because every user needs a response, and every simultaneous user (follower) requires the same simultaneous response. A Twitter user with 100 followers (simultaneously logged in) that takes an action – costs less than a Twitter user with 100,000 followers (simultaneously logged in), that takes an action.
If you understand the cost increases in the data demand for simultaneous users, you can see the business model for Twitter is non-existent.
Bottom line, more users means it costs Twitter more money to operate. The business model is backwards from traditional business. More customers = higher costs, because each customer brings more simultaneous users….. which means exponentially more data performance is needed.
User engagement features on Twitter are significant, because that’s all Twitter does. Not only can users write comments, graphics, memes, videos, but they can also like comments, retweet comments, subtweet comments, bookmark comments, and participate in DM systems. That is a massive amount of server/data performance demand, and when you consider simultaneous users, it’s almost unimaginable in scale. That cost and capacity is also the reason why Twitter does not have an edit function.
With 217 million users, you could expect 50 million simultaneous users on Twitter during peak operating times. My back of the envelope calculations, which are really just estimations based on known industry costs for data performance and functions per second (pfp), would put the data cost to operate Twitter around $200 to $300 million per month.
In 2021, Twitter generated $5.1 billion in revenue, according to the Wall Street Journal. According to the New York Times, in 2023 that revenue has dropped to around $1 billion per year.
Musk stated during public conversation that Twitter was essentially break even at $4 billion, which was the position in 2022 just prior to his taking over. [2022 costs around $4.5 billion and revenue around $4 billion +/-, per public financial statements and reporting]. Musk cut approximately $500 million in expenses from realignment and staffing reductions.
Musk has a $1.5 billion debt service on the loan he took out, per his own admission: that’s more than $100 million per month. The debt service alone is higher than his revenue. As I noted last month, Twitter is losing somewhere around $300 million per month. With $1 billion liquid in the bank, as of June (per Musk), that only gets him to September; by October, he needs another influx of cash, or else.
There is no business model, even with paying subscribers, for Twitter to exist without a major increase in revenue (Yaccarino) or a major decrease in costs. As the business grows (more users), the costs increase (more simultaneous users), and the costs to subscribers would grow. Twitter Blue subscriptions are around 180,000 users, paying $11/mo. That’s around $2 million a month- a pittance in comparison to what he needs.
Right now, meaning literally right now, Musk is trying to reduce operational costs by limiting user engagement.
It is not an accident these solutions target the “simultaneous user” issue?
Can you see it now?
.
Mr @elonmusk, I can solve ur problem w/ one simple line of code.
Every Tweet becomes a static and cached url after 10 days.
You cannot engage w/ it, RT it, like it, or view replies to it.
You can only cop the url and forward it to share it.
Done. Easy peasy. https://t.co/ilWn4nJv9J
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) July 1, 2023
Retired Magistrate here: So, it is just a new and “improved” version of Jack’s Coffee Shop.
Not unless Musk cuts a deal with the US government to start subsidizing Twitter again.
“Cuts” a deal?
I didn’t think he ever stopped the previous deal… did he?
Or, a deal with Murdock?
Maybe Elon ghost writes a book and Murdick gives him a couple Billion advane, in exchange for pushing DeSanctimonious, and trashing trump?
Jack’s Coffee Shop is part of Rumsfeld’s Total Information Awareness.
It wasn’t Rumsfeld, that degenerate moron, it was John Poindexter behind TIA.
John Pervert Poindexter
I just plugged that into a search because I’ve never heard of it. Found this interesting article.
https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/commentary-total-information-awareness-a-chance-encounter-raises-questions-2/
Thank you Joe.
Every day I learn something new.
It was a big deal 20-odd years ago.
At the time, the DARPA website put up all the conspiracy emblems: the pyramid on the dollar, the all-seeing eye, etc. I had a friend at the time who worked in Washington and had met DARPA guys and said that they had a “dark sense of humor” over there.
But that announcement ran through my head when I saw Facebook and Twitter and Amazon. Still does.
What about Google?
“Lockheed Martin and Booz Allen”
I guess defense contract money isn’t what it used to be, who knew
Interesting article
Sundance’s point emanates from a technical point and associated economic costs. It reaches deep into database architecture, protocols and scale.
TIA is a completely different subject. Well before (1990s) TIA arrived on powerpoint slides DoD academics, Flag Officers, etc., were developing key concepts underlying netcentric warfare. Important pieces of the paradigm morphed in the 2000s into “situational awareness”. Point being that the genesis for all of this has always been the potential inherent in globally networked nodes collecting, processing and sharing data/information. It was going to happen – regardless.
It’s not the technology. It’s what the people with power and money decide to do with it.
And Musk wants to add mind reading AI to the mix, something like if everybody knows ea others data, nobody has data to know
Kinda puts those guys out of business
If only there was a global community platform for sale, one with the most developed data mining infrastructure already in place
BINGO 🌞
But, it’s still “Magic” 😉
Rhetorical question probably; but by trying to reduce user engagements, will Elon Musk wind up tanking engagement altogether?
Got me wondering the same.
Tweety looking kinda wobbly right now.
It makes sense, if everything Sundance says is true, and I’ve no reason to doubt that it is. He’s no doubt regretting buying it and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s looking for a way out, even if it means sinking it.
I don’t belong to twitter nor Facebook nor any social media other than LinkedIn which I’ll gladly drop the day I retire. I will not join Zuckerbergs new platform either. I enjoy the conversation here and at patriots.win.
Amen
I have to say that i am humbled by this article. I have no understanding of how these sites work, what makes them work, etc.
All I have understood thus far is that the DS had infiltrated Twitter, and basically ran it, censoring free speech. I now wonder if the DS is back in charge, considering what i just read.
Between Sundance’s remark and the interesting supposition presented by Wyoming Treeper below regarding how the government might have been funding a fully Government compliant Twitter, via large advertisers, who mostly disappeared after the purchase supposedly in protest, but if they were the means of laundering the government monies into Twitter their disappearance looks much different, and suggest the government hasn’t gained the degree of control it once did and still wants.
All to say, it looks not as if Twitter is back under control, but is rather going through terminal government teat withdrawal.
They never weren’t in charge, not from day one.
Elon may have thought, in his hubris, he could do without the “government cheese”, but you and I know that’s a fairytale.
Isn’t it what made him rich in the first place, or am I mistaken?
Same!
I like Twitter because of the massive information from throughout the world, good/bad/whatever; it’s up to us to look at both sides of all information.
I also like Twitter because of the number of characters – 240 – which sharpens my brain editing function when I write.
Elon started this project with great intent and still does, but he’s stuck as he entered into a venture he didn’t understand.
SUNDANCE: BRAVO ! – You got it.
If its anything like Rumble, where i watch PDJT’s rally, and there is a constant stream of idiots posting mostly stupid comments below, I find that terribly annoying.
Alas, being here has me spoiled, Maquis and others comments, while watching a rally is filet mignon, with a great side. Rumple its a great dish (the rally) witha steaming pile of crap right next to it.
Puts a damper on the whole “immersive experience”, so if that is what jeff is offering, no thanks.
Actually, I wouldn’t take any thing Zuck was offering, even if he paid me.
If you are watching Rumble you can hit “full screen” and you won’t see the comments.
I too find the comment bots distracting.
Rumble should allow you to minimize the comments section the way Youtube does.
IMHO….
Jack’s Coffee Shop….
and Mark’s FaceBook/Meta….
we’re subsidized by our CIA and….
our other three letter agencies that are our true government.
Of course they were and are!
So why aren’t they kicking in enough for Elon to avoid this self-strangulation?
Maybe limited hangout? Twitter has already been widely exposed as having grossly manipulated information access to users with identified involvement from DHS/CIA/FBI personnel. So, let Twitter go down. Agencies can say: “our bad… everything’s cool now”.
… while they perfect Twitter 3.0 at Meta/Instagram/Google
Coincidence that FB/Meta recently hired 17-year veteran of c i a into a senior role?
Sundance: your ‘splainer is terrific, I actually followed the entire thing without getting lost, and may be able to ‘splain to Dear Husband.
Bonus: I get the costs associated with your site. Will be negotiating some amount to contribute in next cycle for payments. Thank you!!
I reckon so
Plausible.
Let sleeping lies die.
Leaving the billions worth of infrastructure behind for Musk like the billions they “left behind” ie backdoor gave to Afghanistan
Or the govt will do what it always does, change the operational name and carry on
I say the former. I have no doubt Musk will know what to do with the technology to not only keep it up to date, but enhance it
Because they want total surrender from Musk, now and in the future.
The past is without question- DARPA / DHS / CIA.
The amount he needs would draw a huge red flag. I believe they are currently to a certain degree.
Hard to launder the amounts of money needed now to recover without it drawing attention.
Particularly now that everyone is aware of the government involvement not previously revealed.
The amount required is untenable now, but I believe they are waiting on a miracle of revenue inflow and/or float it long enough to achieve some outcome now yet realized by us.
Please. Musk doesn’t need to launder jack s***. His Tesla stock alone has appreciated enough in the last 30 days to cover what he paid for Twitter. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 45,000 million dollars. Don’t worry about him. He’s going to be allright
So his Tesla stock gains in value. That has nothing to do with increasing operational cash flow at Twitter.
How does selling Tesla stock translate into revenue (cash flow) to pay for operations?
I think you are confusing wealth with cash flow (money).
Musk would have to sell that stock and donate the proceeds minus capital gains tax to Twitter to create the cash to pay for the monthly operations.
That big of a sell off could probably impact the value negatively for Tesla potentially causing lawsuits by other investors for failing in his fiduciary duty to keep Tesla as valuable as possible.
Basic business accounting.
Musk could sell 10 billion in Tsla stock next week as long as he filed the proper paperwork. I value many of your opinions on this site. He has no fiduciary duty that would prevent him from selling a % of his holdings. Basic business accounting. Pray and help others
Yea, he could as I stated.
And he could very well cause depreciation of the remaining Tesla stock due to the market panicking over it as I stated with a sale that large. That is a staggering amount to sell off at one time.
The fiduciary duty doesn’t ‘prevent’ him from selling the stock.
The fiduciary duty is to ensure by all reasonable means to avoid actions that could negatively affect the value of the Tesla stock on behalf of other investors, which is a separate company, as well as publicly traded. Different criteria than private owned.
That depreciation could be interpreted by other investors of Tesla as negligence to their interests causing a class action lawsuit by the other investors. As well as cause potential sanctions by the SEC.
The investors could claim that he negatively affected their investments to prop up a different failing enterprise. And they would be correct and win that suit, further diminishing the value of Elon’s enterprises as well as his reputation for business decisions which would further impact confidence of his abilities to both current and future investors. Not good!
That is the basic business accounting and the legal implications to boot. The actual accounting is not just ‘financial’ accounting, it is also ‘managerial’ accounting which is a separate course for business majors.
What you guys are suggesting is not as simple as it appears for a variety of reasons.
Additionally, if it was that easy and Elon is in that bad of shape, then why has he not done that?
I’m pretty sure I just answered it.
But who knows in these crazy times. Maybe he will take the risk.
In any event, until and unless he does sell His own Tesla stock, he has to have revenue NOW, legitimately, illegitimately or both to survive; and that is the bottom line.
You’ve never owned a business, huh? He has enough money that the operational shortfalls of Twitter aren’t going to keep him up at night. He can float it for the rest of his life with what he has right now. And Tesla stock ought to double by the end of the year
Yeah, I have been involved in my family’s business at one time. Still consult.
Been a mid level sales manager at a multibillion dollar publicly traded company, ranked #1 twice 2011-12.
Am currently a senior sales professional at another company.
Was a business major in college.
I’m an investor, so I have to pay attention to how companies run their business to keep from losing value on my investments.
You really shouldn’t make assumptions on something you don’t know about regarding others. It is very shallow assuming.
I could care less how well Tesla does. Tesla is not Twitter. And the actions that Elon is taking and described by Sundance sure seems to indicate that Elon is panicking (staying up at night).
And you just can’t commingle funds from two separate entities, particularly when one is publicly traded that has SEC regulations to overcome just because you want to or think you can.
BK +3
strfkr -1
Wrong again. You guys seem to forget that he owns 75,000 million dollars worth of private company SpaceX. He could find the money to keep Twitter going in the console of any of his cars.
Yes, he has money in several businesses. That doesn’t mean twitter won’t cost him dearly. Not like you and me dearly, obviously.
Don’t you mean it will cost his investors dearly?
What part of dollars value in ownership and dollar value of cash do you not understand?
You are making arguments that are making you look foolish.
“Finding money in the console of your car.”
WTH are you talking about?
I’m sorry but you’ve gone too far.
You asked me about owning a business and I gave you a brief resume.
Your arguments and positions are so juvenile it leads me to believe you’re not even properly educated, much less in a business degree or own / manage a medium to large company and have absolutely no idea of the legal complexities involved of what you say, that were pointed out for consumption, but you just couldn’t understand.
I really tried to help you understand.
But you got nothing but emotional condescending dribble that you can’t even articulate adequately
WTF EVER!
Calm down. It’s not personal. It’s math
ROFLOL
Do you own a business?
I do.
I own several, each separate of the other. That doesn’t mean one can make a ton of money, and another lose a ton of money, and I’m not affected personally. I do math too, pretty well as it happens.
Ty, businesses are completely separate from each other, and from personal finances, for a reason.
He owns SpaceX too
Exactly, joe. And he could lose 100 million dollars a month at Twitter, just with the equity he has in SpaceX for the next 60 years.
Wyoming Treeper below suggested the large advertisers that withdrew after his purchase did so in reality because they were the laundering methods for government cash, that that was the once well hidden method, they withdrew because the government was taking away the teat.
With a system that slick, the government could turn around and start paying again, if they wished to, with none but Treepers the wiser.
He has to be thinking of something, or desperately hoping to, because it is beginning to look like he’s treading water and fading fast.
I saw it. Been trying to contemplate that ‘new’ possible means of laundering, it it exists.
But I do believe ‘they’ are floating just enough to keep the wolves at bay for the time being, some being Murdoch, Meatball campaign, etc but it is not enough. Like putting out a house fire with a couple of buckets of water.
There is a reason. I just can’t see it yet. We will probably know no later than the holiday season.
Honestly, I think the insolvency is worst than what SD is generously giving him credit for.
Wealth is an illusion, unless one possesses vast quantities of something people can’t do without, land, gold, food. But so many “billionaires” are wealthy on paper only. Their real assets may not be worth what their liabilities are.
I know, but some people just can’t grasp that concept.
You also make a good argument about Trump.
The majority of his ‘wealth’ is in real tangible assets ie real estate that generate revenue to pay for themselves and increase real equity unlike a lot of these other billionaires.
Market crashes wipe them out. Trump still holding tangible assets.
Totally. I’m frankly amazed at some of the responses.
“So why aren’t they kicking in enough for Elon to avoid this self-strangulation?”
The Republican-led House Judiciary Committee subpoenaed the Federal Trade Commission for documents …on “violations of the civil liberties of citizens….
Maybe, somebody is getting nervous?
Interesting
“So why aren’t they kicking in enough for Elon to avoid this self-strangulation?”
Twitter covered- up the laptop from hell before the last election.
I’m sure the Deep state would like Twitter to disappear.
Deep state is still providing cover up.
Since so many of us are not musk subscribers, these links are now not working. Perhaps a synopsis of the twit would be helpful.
It shows a clip of a Twitter “cover-up person” (Twitter bird logo for a head) running to & fro between 3 cars closing their trunks that keep popping open with compromising photos of Crackhead Hunter that pop up in Jack In The Box fashion
I’d suggest Whack A Mole as a metaphor, but that might be a bit too graphic considering the subject.
Maybe because he has dangerous ideas about freedom of speech and they think he must be made an example of?
It was said by members of the intelligence community that having facebook cut down on investigative costs so much because people would blab about their lives online. It led to fewer investigators, faster investigations and of course with monitoring of connections, being able to track people down as well as any relations (family, friends, etc). The government LOVES social media!
Those two, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, just got the okay from the Italian government to have a fight with each other in the actual Colliseum!
https://nypost.com/2023/06/30/elon-musk-mark-zuckerberg-can-fight-at-colosseum-italian-govt/
So who gets the short sword?
Was watching a Joe Rogan episode, where in Joe was surprised at Zuckerberg’s skills during the video of him fighting,says he is a legit Akido or Jujitsu type fighter. Mentioned that Musk has assembled a world class team around himself,to drop the weight and learn to fight and train,didn’t say what style of fighting he was to focus on,but I guess grappling and wrestling are going to be a big part of it. Should be interesting,…..I’ll watch.
Omg I want to wretch 🤮
I hope they both lose. Maggots. Sputare!
That’s probably why Zucky is launching this “new” product. At the behest of his 4th branch overlords, he launches a Twitter competitor since Twitter was no longer on the payroll.
Twitter was designed to be an intelligence gathering/narative engineering tool. Profit was not one of the design criteria.
The control of minds and information is more powerful and more effective than any physical weapon in existence.
who needs profit when you have the American taxpayer footing the bill?
How ironic that we the taxpayers paid Twitter to build a system to spy on us and report back to our overlords.
“government money” = theft of working class labor
Elon Musk will let Twitter go out of business and claim the enterprise was not financially viable. He then proceeds to lock away all of the conversations that he is using to train his Artificial Intelligence engines preventing interested parties for analyzing his source data. Musk will probably take another large payout from Rupert Murdoch under the guise of helping DeSantis, and then pocket the money.
I agree.
I simply cannot think in money that big.
My wife can because she deals with high net worth people.
So what is to stop Musk from pulling the plug and writing it all of and be done with it?
Before you tell me that’s crazy try to think like big money.
10 million dollar house on the beach and climate change? What me worry?
LOL Just build a new one a little high up. It’s only money…
E is playing with the biggest toys there are in the most exotic place there is, space rockets and Mars. He’s looking for more than a 10 mil house on an Earth beach. Guy wants to rule the world, needs Twit tech for his ultimate AI universe, where we are all dialed into one giant mind meld. I see him dropping his bad money guys, including govt, as he gets closer. Battle of the Bad Guys may never happen if T gets in and cleans house for him.
Its obvious that Elon Musk sold his soul.
Thank you for this, Sundance. A very clear explanation. I’ll go back and read the previous articles as well.
There can be a lot of catching up to do when arriving here, but it’s so worth it, Sundance’s meticulously documented receipt-heavy deep dives are the best.
Nobody does it better.
There’s a lot of detail, but the overall outline makes sense.
It always does.
Those of us who find our way here are blessed.
Truth Has No Agenda!
Check out the ARCHIVES; MAJOR goldmine!
Thatss whybit was so important to migrate all of the archives to the new platform.
Just use the search box and you can peryse fot hours!
Hopefully Mr. Musk sees, and considers your comment Sundance.
It’s not like buying local, is it? Never like Twitter, Never joined Twitter.
If Sundance doesn’t mind, I’d prefer to stay here.
Damnit man.
Sundance solving Musk’s problems for him for free.
But, but, but I thought Elon was the smartest guy in the room? That’s what everyone keeps saying.
“Done. Easy peasy.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I believe SunnyD might be more facetious than I am.
I love it. Give him Hell, Big Dog! Ruff ruff ruff!
😎😎😎
Sundance ought to get a cut.
Instead he’s stuck with us!
Now you know what this costs Sundance folks, and that’s not what it takes for endless FOIA requests and lawyers to keep our host out of Derp State hands.
Please set up recurring donations as best you can, we are blessed here and surely can return the favor.
Thanks for the reminder. Need to send them some pocket change tonight or tomorrow.
You would think at least a ‘finder’s fee.’
Keep the possibility in mind that Musk knew exactly what he was buying and had an ulterior motive for buying it. Maybe he was willing to pay to dismantle it. Maybe he wanted to tap into that intel taxpayer money Jack got rich on. Maybe he thinks he can reverse engineer the back door to spy on the spies. I say one would take his silence as ignorance at their peril.
“There is no economy of scale in any simultaneous user engagement system.” There actually is if you monetize that user data as Google and FB do.
Twitters problem has always been that its ad platform is only suited to large advertisers.
This is the key proof that Twitter, up till Musk, has always been a government funded enterprise. They laundered the money through corporate “advertisers”.
Musk took it over, govt stopped the launder, and the “advertisers” exited.
Twitter NEVER made money based upon real engagement and ROI. It was always about control.
Interesting thought on the payment delivery method, very plausible.
It sounds like the titanic..
Are we going to get a cool soundtrack as it hits bottom like in the Movie ?
Think Wile E Coyote.
Right now he’s holding up a sign saying goodbye, while his perch on the overhang crumbles . . .
Musk is not nor has he ever been a friend of the American citizen. Everyone of his businesses is dependent on government. He is the largest private contractor for government. Even Tesla, look at Tesla’s SEC filings and you see they make money selling government inventing carbon credits not automobiles. If government cut him out today he would go bankrupt tomorrow. So he is just doing the bidding of his client, aka big government, the swamp, the DC sewer. I have never signed up for Twitter, Facebook, Truth Social or any other social media. I don’t need them.
I think it’s really sad that Tucker has hooked up with Twitter.
He would have been better off to go with Newsmax or even have a setup like CTH.
I am not a tech person but it does seem to make sense under the circumstances Sundance has so brilliantly outlined.
I don’t know if these articles are trustworthy or not:
“Daily Caller co-founder Tucker Carlson is raising funds to start a new media venture, Puck News reported. Carlson is reportedly fundraising for the venture with a “vast majority” of his former Fox News staff set to join him. “
Yep.
Methinks Twitter is just temporary life support for Tucker.
Or vice versa.
Or both.
Likely so.
TuckerNews.com
May it be this lock-down is to keep people from seeing TC’s output?
Prevention strike if President Trump were to return???
Tucker is talking on Twitter, he does not have a contract; he can leave/not talk at anytime.
He should do his own thing, and I read he’s doing just that. He should not go on any network or website that is not his.
He isn’t monetizing his current Twitter output either.
He’s just keeping his brand fresh and his voice known there.
For now.
Exactly, I concur. 😊
Agree. I wonder why doesn’t go back to Daily Caller and present his work there. I’ve read that it was prior to, and this exempt from, terms in his Fox Contract. Must not be so.
Could anyone here clear this up?
I can’t clear that up, but I can say I want him to be in control of his organization.
He’s had enough bosses, he knows they can only limit him, time to take off the leash.
It removes the doubt that Tucker is owned like was debated for years…
Bought and paid for
But he might not be able to get his content pre-approved by backdoor government psyop people or censors.
Sounds like Elon should have hired the accountant Christian Wolff to take a look at the books before he jumped in with both feet and bought Crazy Eddie’s Twitter. Where oh where is all that money coming from? Hah! There’s nothing new under the sun.
Crazy DHS and The Twitter Pump.
Only Sundance ever broke the code on what made Twitter tick.
Well he was certainly the only one with guts and integrity to go public with it.
Is Twit going public? If only there was a stack patiently waiting to be influxed. Love the movie mention regardless, always on my DVR.
RAG TAG BUNCH OF MISFITS does it again. They are truly misfits that haven’ given Elon a change considering all the GOOD Elon has done with the new adventure he is calling X. At least until faces all the Globalist’s Challenges that were imbedded in Twitter.
If the Misfits were worth a salt, they would start by stating ALL THE GOOD Elon has done since buying such an intelligence tool known as Twitter. OF which there are many.
The bloviating of the Misfits drowned out by all the bias…. What a shame.
What “Good” has “X” done for me…
Personally.
TYIA
Goodness, that reads as remarkably and senselessly defamatory.
How amazingly familiar your voice sounds.
Why yes….it is rather familiar. Noted.
What is the good that we have missed?
Many people were never reinstated and some who were have since been blocked out, again;
It was always a magic coffee shop regardless of who “owns” it, still federal government managed with “ex” CIA, FBI, DOJ and many other alphabet agencies having a say on what can, and cannot be said.
These are things we knew before he brought that sink in.
Please start the list of good that we might have something to work with. Thank you.
Please give us a detailed list of the ALL THE GOOD Elon has done.
If not, why not GTF out of here?
If you don’t like what we discuss, we don’t really care!
How bout them apples from a bloviating misfit Treeper?
BTW, go take some English classes!
Thank you for trying to bully the misfits into your thinking.
The Blovatator has identified himself.
Try harder
Is that you Elon?
What part of my body should I strike and how many self-flagellations should I administer, esteemed demigod shareblue … I mean : Michael-Robert: Embry?
/s
I was a lobbyist and political campaign consultant as Twitter rose from nowhere into prominence. I’ll never forget the first time I was visiting with a legislator when a reporter came up to ask him what he thought about a tweet made by a few constituents, not even from his district. I was surprised, because it was just gossip, loud mouths spouting off, no different than the nutcase standing on a soapbox in the park. Yet it was given enough importance by the reporter to warrant questioning the legislator. I expected the legislator to brush it off, as the meaningless loudmouth gossip that it was. But then he gave the question legitimacy and answered the reporter with a serious response that wasn’t warranted.
That was the moment I knew something had shifted. If gossip could be organized to make political pressure campaigns impact public policy that easily it represented a fundamental change in how public policy was made. Up until then it was serious business. Citizens and interest groups alike previously had to go to the legislative body, make an impression, be credible, bring others with them to show widespread support. Getting a mob aroused to act on a platform like Twitter was too easily manipulated. Astroturf, they call it.
Then as I noticed its growth and use it was really only the media, politicos and and interest groups, the businesses, entertainers, brand managers, activists who used it. It never was as popular with ordinary people talking about ordinary things as Facebook. It’s been the influencer’s platform, engaging with other influencers. Not reality. Not a reflection of the electorate and broad public support. A public relations, propaganda, information dissemination platform. Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop is a very fitting characterization. I saw it’s rapid adoption by public policymakers. Which from my seats near the front has been the case from inception.
Exactly, we should have been using Twitter long ago, before the leftist mob cemented their control. I got on Twitter after Jan 6 because it was then I realized I needed to reach out to other people that may not agree with me on everything but with whom I could find common ground. I followed Naomi Wolf. She liked a few of my replies and retweeted one. I suggested a few times she check out Warroom. Now she is a regular guest, thanks to me, lololol.
Seriously, Twitter is the best for engaging people and winning others to your side. I changed a lib girl’s mind about the trans cult at Planned Parenthood by sharing an essay with her written by someone who worked there. My take is that Elon means well but the dark forces put immense pressure on him and he can only do so much. I like him, but can’t trust him for that reason.
Twitter is better on its worst day than Facebook on its best. Zuck is one evil dude and he with his 400 million may have swung the election against us in 2020. That and his censorship and algorithms. So I’m stsying at the Twit, trying to win one mind at a time..
Huzzah!!
Well, to be honest, the Twitter game was rigged from its inception. It was established by the same intelligence agencies that view domestic political opposition as national security threats, domestic terrorists. So they knew where they were going with it the moment it became a player. The only question is how many elected officials were in on it and when?
My take is that Elon means well but the dark forces put immense pressure on him and he can only do so much. I like him, but can’t trust him for that reason.
Well said!
Thank you for putting in plain English what was fluttering around in my mind.
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Also as Twitter was growing it bought out and scarfed up lots of small blogging platforms. Lots of data collecting, lots of future influencer commentating. This is rarely mentioned, because someone went around paying off startups before they even gained much notice.
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I worked for a tech company with a basic website we sold our products on. Our website was built on a bunch of home grown pieces patched together. We hired a website design company to build us a new website. We were getting close to launch date of the new website and it was impossible for us to load our content on the new site. Adding a period to one page caused a cascade effect where every other page would republish locking the website until it was all completed. We calculated adding that one period would lock the website for a week. They told this was normal.
We fired them and had our web designers reskin the new content on our old website.
Is this why unregistered users can no longer view Twitter posts?
Has to be.
They are throttling registered and paying Twits, us freeloaders are out in the cold.
But they’re murdering the functionality of their information sharing model, even non-Twits greatly amplify the reach of Twitter, but as Sundance says, Elon is trying to strangle the costs, not enhance the product.
Thank you. Makes sense. Yes, they are strangling their reach, but if a person has to join Twitter to see posts now, that additional person is only adding to their costs.
It seems so, Belle.
Twitter is trying to reduce the cost of doing business (cost of simultaneous users) by eliminating the number of simultaneous users.
The easiest way to eliminate a big chunk of simultaneous users is to refuse access to twitter for those that do not “register”. (aka.. PAY)
By doing so, anyone not PAYING will be excluded from the biggest “global discussion & commenting system” on the planet.
Remember Musk saying there would be “Freedom of Speech, but NOT Freedom of reach” on twitter.
This looks alot like that.
I can’t access CTH’s twitter site anymore due to the changes affecting readers of tweets only so I don’t know what the responses are to sundance’s tweet:
“Mr @elonmusk, I can solve ur problem w/ one simple line of code…” Will he listen and will it work. Seems reasonable.
I am reluctant to sign up to Twitter given their despicable history of Deep State censorship and meddling and now Elon’s dismal attempts to interfere in the election by supporting DeSantis and to save the monstrosity he should never have purchased.
SD’s following tweets…
Reconcile please.
Old 2022: We’re going to make the Twitter code open source so everyone can see it.
New Hotness 2023: OMG they’re scraping.
Nobody calls it, and calls it out, better than Sundance. Nobody!
Thank you for sharing these. I miss reading Sundance’s tweets and sometimes the string of responses are hilarious. Miss the humor!
Thanks Ad Rem. Much appreciated.
As an IT professional, I can tell you that this is an apples to oranges comparison.
‘Scraping’ is programatically ‘reading’ a web page, in order to capture it’s content – often for later use/analysis. Thing like: building an AI model based upon what it sees in the ‘scraped’ tweets, in order to, say… automate objecting to posts that TPTB want suppressed. FWIW – the throttling that Elon has implemented makes doing this with ‘scraped’ data MUCH harder – because the sampling is so much smaller.
‘Open Source’ software – so you can see the programming code and from that: what it does, and how – is not the same thing as seeing/capturing the content it presents.
So, that is what happens when you purchase a crime scene which is what Twitter had become!!! 🤔
When it’s a government crime scene, yes, best prepare to become a victim. 💀
Can’t watch twitter unless you sign up for Twitter even though Tucker sends me an email to watch. Will skip it.
Hitchin’ a ride here with sundance, and not to put too fine of a point on it:
The Patriot Act: signed into law 10/26/2001 [sidebar: I remembered that taking 6 to 7 months until I reviewed. Not!]
Twitter is popular enough to become a household name: 2007ish [best I could figure from the gibberish laced wiki-thing shaggy dog story after clicking to get a simple answer to a direct question].
??
It’s time to RUMBLE.
And to TRUTH Social.
BTW: Look up rumble on wikipedia. Here’s what you get:
Rumble (noise), a form of low frequency noiseRumble, a haptic feedback vibration feature in video game controllersRumbling, a quality of a heart murmurStomach rumble, or borborygmus, a medical termYou will scroll to the bottom of the page before they tell you that it’s a website.
Look up Facebook and you get:
Facebook is an online social media and social networking service owned by American technology giant Meta Platforms. Created in 2004 by Mark Zuckerberg with fellow Harvard College students and roommates Eduardo Saverin, Andrew McCollum, Dustin Moskovitz, and Chris Hughes, its name derives from the face book directories often given to American university students.
Look up Twitter and you get:
Twitter is an online social media and social networking service owned and operated by American company X Corp., the successor of Twitter, Inc. Twitter users outside the United States are legally served by the Ireland-based Twitter International Unlimited Company, which makes these users subject to Irish and European Union data protection laws.
Look up Truth Social and you get:
Truth Social (stylized as TRUTH Social) is an alt-tech[2][3][4] social media platform created by Trump Media & Technology Group, an American media and technology company founded in October 2021 by former US president Donald Trump.[5][6][2][7][4] It has been called a Twitter clone that competes with Parler, Gab and Mastodon in trying to provide an alternative to Twitter and Facebook.
Got bias?
Just a thought. Those cute little fuzzy Wikis are hanging a lot of hope on the word former in that first paragraph on the Truth Social entry.
Still can’t seem to sign up to Truth Social without a cell phone; so am simply another one of those forgotten Americans.
Pretty sure those running Truth Social are learning from this Twitter outage and hopefully making changes so the posts can be read, and shared, like twitter’s used to be, without having to go out and buy one of those tracking devices people call cell phones.
Wow Sundance.
Your solution sounds great and fair to everybody.
Something easy to adjust to as well.
The tiered system he wants to implement feels no different than any other kind of selective censorship.
Heard Nitter isn’t working because Musk is blocking third party API’s .
Yup.
Nitter is also now demanding a password where before us plebs could browse at will.
That really does sound like self immolation.
It’s going around.
Who knew it was contagious?
J’aime les flammes!
Moi non! Je suis deja trop chaud!
FYI, Nitter’s note on this:
Our Nitter service is currently unavailable due to changes on Twitter’s side : Twitter has blocked access to their services for people who don’t have an account, hence this outage which extends to all Nitter instances.
According to Twitter, this measure is temporary, but no indication has yet been published as to how long this blocking will last. We’ll keep you updated on the situation on our Mastodon account and on our status page.
[nitter.lacontrevoie.fr]
The only reason I went to Twitter was to watch Tucker Carlson. With the recent shutting out of those without Twitter IDs, I contemplated joining simply to be able to watch the videos. I’ve since discovered I can watch them on Rumble, so no need to join Twitter after all. Problem solved.
For me this is a Good Thing. I spent waaayyyyyy too much time surfing twitter.
I never had an account just looked from the outside.
Lot’s of interesting info floating by some very interesting people.
Buckets of swill certainly but lots of good stuff also.
I am feeling severely info-throttled by this, I want to follow the French Jihad and Ukronazi Atrocity and my favorite sources aren’t government approved fascistic nooz organizations.
Moi aussi, but I’m not signing up.
I’m torn.
I might.
Take one for the team, ya know? Sundance does it all day long after all.
Do what is right for you Maquis, no purity test here 🙂
Check out Gab. I followed a fellow who was making videos on the ground in Brazil in the weeks following the fraudulent election there. And I got good info on Gab during the Canada Trucker Protest.
Also check Rebel News on Rumble. They may be covering what’s happening in France.
In your ventures to find info sources, I can only send you forth with your personal battle slogan, Kapla!
Alloway Masata!!
and just when I recognize Klingon, you switch universes on me . . . fell thru a wormhole to … Farscape?
The best SciFi ever!
Highly recommended!
Highly rated certainly.
I have been binge watching “The Expanse” lately and find it riveting. Is the closest thing to ‘hard SF’ on screen IMO.
Oh, yes, I love you for that. Can you please give us the text, as I’m allergic to bird feathers 😊, and can’t join the flock 🐦
Ukraine – Larry Johnson / Paul Serran
Can’t help you on France
Zut!! 😉
Telegram has what you want but you need a phone to sign up
You can still look at Gab.com without being a user. They have great videos of the French situation today at the “top posts” tab.
Same here. When I realized I couldn’t access twitter to watch Tucker, I just went to Rumble….
deport, deport, deport
The man has microchips implanted in monkeys and wants to implant them in you.
This is who Elon truly is and he has never ever been on the side of any American constitutional rights.
Just like Bozo Elon makes billions off the U.S. taxpayer via “His Space program” and military contracts while act the fool.
Just shut it down.
I can see technology – is the controlling factor.
Not only does it control us it is also consuming us.
It like a “circular firing squad”.
Anymore the cellphone is being used as if its indespensible and musk be relied in for everything.
It controls us rather that we controlling it.
In fact we are slaves to technology.
Yes the “machines” control us if we let them.
😳
“In fact we are slaves to technology. Yes the “machines” control us if we let them.” Toasters … they have a plan.
“Behold the bitten apple, the power of the tools
But all the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools…
And it’s a long road, out of Eden”
~ THE EAGLES
Long Road Out of Eden
Anymore the cellphone is being used as if its indespensible and musk be relied in for everything.
I am becoming more and more isolated from society because I refuse to “app” all over myself.
I do have a Linux powered smartfone but it is a toy I piddle with and has no cellular access.
I have an elderly flipfone that doesn’t “app”. I use for verbal communication and as little txt as I can get away with. There are so few pay phone left as to be useless …
Brilliant
Musk cannot pay his bills, nothing new here. When has he actually been financially independent, never from my opinion.
Yesterday, on Facebook, I saw an option to share on Twitter with the bird symbol on the list of choices. Today no longer an option on the list.
So now the soap opera continues.
It’s by pretty simple. The world’s wealthiest person bought a “pig in a poke”. By now he has realized as much but doesn’t want to write down 40bln to zero even though tgg he at is probably j he is best solution.
While I see the value and point of Sundances suggestion. Most posts are not worth the upvote and impression value after 10 days. It’s mostly for the archive purposes and the purpose of referencing things later. It would in fact save lots of processing power.
In the end however…
I find myself lacking in sympathy for Twitter users. I know millions didn’t learn their lessen and that’s ok. But the whiners will never prosper. No such limits that I know of on Gab.. Gab will build it because ‘they will come’. I see real and honest freedom of speech on Gab. Both the good and the bad for whatever it’s worth.. Seems fear is still very much in play on both sides..
I want the global reach of Twitter.
I have saved the links to see hundreds of Twits, and can find them all over the world when a situation merits it.
I’d like to see Elon request a sidebar with Sundance to contemplate a subsidy-free free-speech reboot of Twitter.
I also followed a lot of Twitter accounts just to check on what is going on in the world. Info starvation makes me anxious.
Same!
I do too.. but I also did my own thing for close to 2.5 decades without twitter to check on and see what was going on… and when SM came around.. I found twitter and it still made little difference in the long term. People anchor themselves to what they find to keep themselves stable. But nature doesn’t anchor itself to anything… the only constant is change. I used to study JKD… otherwise known as MMA…
“Be like water” means that you should be formless. When Lee says to be “formless”, he means that people shouldn’t allow themselves to be trapped in a certain mindset. Instead, a person should be able to adapt to certain situations, grow, and change; that’s how one can adopt the qualities of water.”
wakie-wakie..
If only we had down votes… I would relish every single one..
I think we’ve done a hell of a lot of adapting in the last several years. We made it through Hussein, and we’ll make it through JoeBama. Adapting doesn’t mean surrendering.
Who said anything about surrendering? I love it when people have to put words in others mouths in order to make their arguments….
If by adapting are you referring to the masses falling over themselves to worship political idols? Yes, even Trump.. Or perhaps adapting by locking themselves down with masks from the media fear campaign?
Or perhaps you mean to suggest that when millions of Americans learned that twitter/facebook/instagram are all mechanisms built by the 4th branch to monitor, harass, cajole and control the masses. By adapting did they build something new.. Something beyond the 4th branches control? No.. Instead they remain wholly committed to ‘the cause’ of convenience. Under yet another false idol named Musk selling them a safe haven and another false fair fight. To keep the flock watching their feeds of idols selling them the rhetoric they need to hear on a regular basis. All for the ad revenue. Just like faux snooze did.. wakie-wakie
I do see many adapting.. I do see many building something new. However most that reply simply expose their cognitive dissonance.
Thank you for this!
That led to this:
“Don’t fear failure. — Not failure, but low aim, is the crime. In great attempts it is glorious even to fail.”
― Bruce Lee
I choose to find EM’s endeavors Glorious.
bad buy for musk.
Musk is a bad buy, for us
Tesla – Electric Cars
SpaceX – Rockets
Neuralink – Brain Chips
The Boring Company – Tunnel digging
&
Twitter – Free Speech
🤔
One if these is not like the others.
Why DID Musk buy Twitter?
Looks like the end of a wild dream which turned out to e a nightmare for the smarty-pants billionaire. How could he be so stupid? How did his team of experts let him down? Now he is stuck with a turd in a punch bowl.
You mean, you don’t think he’s read in?
Football stars are not necesarily good at ball room dancing, or accounting, or winning spelling bees.
My point is that “making $” is a “skill set” bit doesn’t NECESARILY mean the person is eithrr “smart” or “intelligent” outside of that skill set.
Now, a footbal star MIGHT be good at ballroom dancing, (PDJT IS Smart, Intelligent AND has the money maker skill set) but its not inherent.
People think wwealthy businessman=intelligent, but look at the Billionares throwing their $ away on RDS campaign.
Madoff was ponzi-scamming RICH people, recall. Ditto the gal with the lab test.
How many dot.com billionaires got their money from selling at the right time. Mark Cuban, an excellent example. Not a lot of cylinders firing in sync there.
More customers = higher costs
By using Twitter I’m Hurting Twitter.
I support non-violent activism. Free speech ,the Second Amendment etc.
When people suggest hanging people from light poles or shooting others I actually think they’re part of the FBI and trying to set us up.
Or, they are dumb.
When President Trump is in charge again I hope He jails members of the FBI and the CIA leaders.
If Sundance is right, I think he is , Twitter is practicing election interference paid for with my taxpayer dollars.
That’s illegal!
Right now I’m just exploring Twitter and find it interesting what they have and don’t have.
I have been a member of Twitter since October of 2018 .
I have twelve followers. That’s right, 12.
I have no idea who these 12 people are.
FBI, CIA, Musk ?
Since I started exploring Twitter again, I’ll have to check my Facebook Profile, again.
Facebook was using all the people I liked on Twitter as part of my profile.
I’ve always been a supporter of Trump.
I had to open my profile on Facebook and learn how to delete all of my history.
I get regular updates on Facebook about what’s going on with my family and relatives.
We don’t talk about Politics . That’s the way we like it.
The Cage-Match between Musk and Zuckerberg has already taken place. Mark marks Musk in the fight of the Social medias. Musk gets helicoptered out of the ring. Zuckerberg is declared the unanimous winner.
Remember, Musk’s worth in Tsla is approximately 110 Billion( 440 million shares x 250 ps) . Space x estimated at 100 billion. And yes he has a dog in twtr. Maybe he will just shut it down before long? Will many truly miss it? Have never been a member. We will survive to live our best lives . Pray and help others.
My reaction to changes at Twitter is that they no longer want me anywhere near their operation. Every link to Twitter in this article and its comments now yields the same result for me. I click on the link and get a mostly blank page with a cryptic note about “Something went wrong. Try reloading.” This has never happened before. I have made no changes on my computer. This leads me to ask, are they still in operation? Shutting out potential traffic isn’t helping my exposure to the advertisers on that platform. Oh well….maybe I will just go outside and play in the garden. This whole computer thing is so overrated.
I think the gubmint would be very happy for Twitter to go under…no communication going on, no sunlight being shone anywhere….but what do they do about those pesky other social media sites that will pick up the slack
Yep an internet blackout is planned, gubmint has run simulations.
Trump is famously on Twitter. For the others, he’s not posting anything like he does there, more just walking and waving. So basically Twit has T, Meta never has and never will. “META … will link Facebook, Instagram, and Google YouTube content into one big … system.” How convenient should he become 47, that he goes after FB for alerting the govt if parents are posting on their family court sagas or its decided FB exchanging posted personal health info with Ins Companies breaks any laws. And Google Classroom is amazing all the data its collecting, not just grades, where is that going? Sounds like T doesn’t want some all knowing govt interfaced giant conglomerate eye watching him, and probably nobody else does, or will after T makes it a platform, then where will people go for SM? E may be thinking Twit. We’ll know if META launches and T starts up his platform against it, that may be the deal. Remember what T said about someone he thinks is a terrible person, but “he thinks he’s my friend.”
“Pity the fool!” Mr. T
So let’s stick with the Jack Dorsey version of Twitter: his financial statements had to be provided to Musk, yes? Twitter is a public company, so the sources of all its revenue are known (or should be with some financial statement analysis), right?
If the US Government was propping-up Twitter to the tune of hundreds of millions (or possibly billions) of dollars, then where did that money come from, specifically, and where is it shown in Twitter’s financials? You can bury small-ball stuff, but the kinda money you’re referring to here can’t be hid.
I fully believe the US Deep-State was (and is) directly involved in Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and all the other big techs including most of the big ISPs. I doubt they aren’t involved with Apple and Microsoft as well. Stalin and Mao could only dream of so much data on their populations at the click of a mouse.
Final comment: we have people smart enough to peel this back to nitty-gritty details in terms of government payments to Twitter. I for one would love to see those details. Musk must be aware by now if he wasn’t at deal-close…..
Wyoming Treeper upthread offered a highly plausible explanation of the means of government payments, via large advertisers.
You know, those ones who disappeared “in protest” after he bought it?
Well, that could well have been the government saying “so long, sucker!”
It explains how he went from believing there was a credible business model to seeing virtually none at all.
Now he’s frantically trying to draw the advertisers back with a woke whack CEO chick and the real problem is that the government isn’t that into him and won’t be paying corporations big bucks to advertise with him; he’s courting the wrong tyrants.
The fembot accounts are still trying to follow me (2 per day)
So if Elon could just figure out how to monetize the porn they try to send me …
IMHO, the film “Snowden” is a real eye-opener when they show the scene in Switzerland when Mr. Snowden is introduced to a system whereby the CIA can freely “wander around in” Facebook accounts in their quest to find a “hook” on a targeted individual.
Meta will bankrupt Twitter and liberal censorship will start again!
Already in progress
To compound the lack of economy-of-scale, software development has gone far downhill in the last decade. To make a website do something fancy, instead of writing a well-thought-out function that took maybe 4-5 lines of code, web developers now add a few thousand lines of code via a plugin so they can write their part in just 1 line. Their laziness slows everything down. Websites got slower, data pulls got more computationally expensive, and developers just kept taking shortcuts because who has time to fix it or do it right? Along comes Amazon Web Services and Microsoft Azure, and now you can just buy your way out of slow code. Twitter went that route because they were subsidized by the federal government and a large pool of woke investors, so it didn’t really cost them anything they hadn’t already sold.
When fighting a lack of economy-of-scale, you need efficiency and brilliantly-creative problem-solving. Modern developers coming out of universities or being shipped in from overseas are not capable of either.
I’ll enjoy watching your war against the Artificial Intelligence machine which has been put in place at Twitter. Because at the end of it all I know who will win.
This is not the bot you are looking for…
Muskrat
Love
Did Twitters cloud contract with Google end?
Film The Police LA
@FilmThePoliceLA
“So the truth comes out.
“Twitter’s cloud contract with Google ran out. Seems Twitter was unable to move its infrastructure off of Google fast enough. Todays outages are the end result.
“Elon is LYING when he claims this was brought on by data-scraping. “