This stuff is really so silly, and lawfare is so entirely predictable, it is difficult for me to remain serious when discussing it. This is also why serious litigation expert Eric Dublier was so funny in his Concord case briefings against the DOJ and their insufferable Lawfare efforts.
CNN gets a leak of audio from Special Prosecutor Jack Smith, presumably presenting audio of President Trump talking in Bedminster, New Jersey, about the background of Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley lying about Trump wanting to invade Iran. [VIDEO HERE] Essentially, Trump refutes Milley and has papers to back up his side of the story.
CNN claims this audio will be the “Central Focus” of the case against President Trump that eventually “all jurors in the case will hear.” At this point, my laughter is almost unbearable for a multitude of reasons. Remember, this is a Lawfare operation, which is constructed for one primary purpose, influencing the public.
Putting aside the fact that CNN, and the entire media apparatus already reporting on this nonsense before and putting aside the ridiculous nature of the top-line claims, the audio proves nothing. It is the sound of President Trump talking about presidential papers that are claimed by the DOJ to be “classified” or “secret.” Except, beyond the absurdity, there’s a problem that explains why Jack Smith gave CNN the audio.
Despite the grand pontifications and breathless pearl-clutching by the CNN narrative engineers, the audio will NEVER be used at trial – if there is even a trial – which is highly unlikely, because it cannot be admitted into evidence. That’s why Jack Smith gave it to them. The audio is useless, except for the value in promoting the lawfare narrative engineering effort.
Why? Because the documents that are claimed to be heard in the audio are nowhere to be found. That’s right, the DOJ and FBI never found any “classified” or “super-secret” documents as described in the audio. As a result, the audio represents nothing, a literal nothingburger, because without the documents the audio is inadmissible.
You cannot submit evidence in court of a person talking about documents without the documents the audio is supposedly talking about. Can you see the issue now? As a result, the audio is nothing more than President Trump talking about something the prosecution cannot identify or prove. It’s inadmissible, hence no value, hence the leak.
The core issue of President Trump having personal papers from his administration [Presidential Records Act] now being used against him by a Lawfare effort in court, hasn’t even reached the pretrial motion status yet. I strongly doubt the “Espionage Act” criminal predicate of the Lawfare case will withstand judicial scrutiny and challenge; that’s why Jack Smith is now asking for delays.
18 U.S. Code § 793 (e) – […] Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;
The underlying case is a joke, pure Lawfare in construct, and the constitutional precedent that covers the dispute over presidential records is the Presidential Records Act, which has no criminal penalty.
The special prosecutor Jack Smith is leaking stupid stuff to the media, getting every moonbat leftist hyped up, for one reason only… to generate a public narrative. That’s it. That’s the sum total of the construct, and this leak by them -to generate this outcome- shows exactly that.
We’ve been through enough of this nonsense to notice all the indicators of Lawfare as it happens in real time.
Go live your life, enjoy it, and laugh at these fools during combat; they hate that!
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Mark Levine just twitted that the Special P leaked the tape for the purpose of influencing the jury and futher stated that Trump’s Lawyers should file a dismissal of the case immediately….
And put Smith in jail. I hope President Trump manages to prevail despite every conceivable thing they can do to stop him, and once in the White House unleashes a form of hell on these evil bastards the likes of which the world has never seen before.
The WEF/NWO/UN globalist cabal, which seems to control most of the ‘free’ world, will NEVER allow Trump to return to power!
Globalist controlled…past tense. They have been systematically degraded. Patriots are in contol.
Trump is in danger. I do hope that he has a special crew that maintains, fuels and loads his jet. That would be a primary target for the CIA, FBI and yes any of the other alphabet agencies. The deep state has no qualms about eliminating political threats and Trump has been ‘over the target’ for a long time, drawing immense ‘flak fire’, none of which has been effective. They will attempt or carry out an assassination.
If we the people STAND STRONG & be RELENTLESS in our war against the EVIL & manic liberals. Trump will win !!! I don’t care for negativity & believe that if ALL of us CONSERVATIVES do our part TRUMP WILL WIN & we will have our country back as we once knew it!!!!
So do I Bouv. But realistically can’t see it. No matter what I will vote for Trump as a write in if necessary. I will not abandon this man despite I get so angry at him for his associations and often mindless moves. I will vote for him or no one at all this. For me, it’s a matter of Code.
Tainting jury pool, and leaking so-called evidence that the Trump team would have been excoriated and likely Trump and/or his team would have been held in contempt of court had they pulled this stunt. Right now Judge Cannon should be calling a conference with both parties and imposing severe sanctions on the prosecution and then the Trump team can file for immediate and prejudicial dismissal. End.
It is encouraging to read that Judge Cannon has the experience, education, intellect, and integrity to put Little Jack in his place. Bravo!! Based upon releases by the media, IMESHO, both jack and merrick are really starting to look very foolish. It will be interesting to read what David Weiss has to say to Congress. Maybe Kevin will actually take some action as a result.
It’s important for everyone to realize these incessant “leaks” are called FELONIES as defined by law and never enforced. In this case by JACK SMITH – if not by him his designated state media point. Yes they are. It’s been prolific since 2015 with NO consequence.
Smith would deny leaking the tape, and would say that other people had copies, t00. CNN will not release the name of its source.
The tape was supposedly made to help Mark Meadows with his memoirs, so he, his ghostwriter or publisher may have a copy. No motive for Meadows to do such a thing, but I wouldn’t trust a publisher, especially a NY publisher.
Yes, Smith is trying to taint the jury, but proof that he actually did leak this, and that the jury pool is irredeemably tainted would be hard to find.
Trump’s lawyers will likely move to dismiss the indictment as legally insupportable because of its twisted view of the Presidential Records Act, which is the best shot at dismissal.
One of the basic policies in litigation is to choose your battles carefully and get the timing right. There are likely going to be other leaks, and Trump’s lawyers cannot go to the judge with every single leak.
They chose not to object to Smith’s request to keep the documents at the lawyer’s office and only allow the defendants to view them there because it really did not inconvenience the defense that much.
As Sundance’s excellent post pointed out, Smith expected a time-consuming challenge and got caught off-guard. Smith is not ready to go to trial, and was planning on challenges to delay the trial until he was. Trump’s lawyers know that, and are acting accordingly.
They can knock out 31 counts out of 37 pretty quick with a motion. The PRA supersedes the espionage act and even has language pertaining to national security.
Two thoughts here:
One thought is Smith is sabotaging his own case in order to make it go away. They realize Trump’s team will not go along so they have nothing. This is their way of getting themselves out of the jam they put themselves in.
The second thought is Trump’s team does not need to see any of the evidence because it is not going to defend against anything contained therein. Don’t need to look in the box because it doesn’t matter what’s in the box. The defense is Presidential Records Act. Therefore, anything presented from within the box becomes moot. Stay above the weeds so as to not get tangled up in them.
They are not going to defend things that don’t warrant defending. Doing so would only give legitimacy to the bogus charges.
Also, no need to wait for jury to gain security clearances because the President declassified everything in his possession so nothing to be presented is classified.
Seems like Smith is throwing up some weak sauce here. And only the lapdogs are biting.
The J6 case is Smiths big case against Trump. They will offer immunity to testify against Trump
I thought this was about the President’s supposed possession of “classified” documents.
Yes, it is. There a 2 DOJ cases against Trump. One is the “documents case” to be tried in FL. The other is the “J6” case, to be tried in DC.
Well stated. Thank you.
It is known as “poisoning the jury pool” and it is as despicable as it was expected.
A “dismissal” would be possible in a fair justice system but not this one I suspect. Judge Cannon is being viciously attacked and defamed from the usual sources so she will have to be tough and resilient until the latest Lawfare fiasco is over.
Note-Levin’s upcoming book about the deplorable history of the Democrat party and the danger it is today will enrage the Democrats. He will also be targeted.
And THIS. Fox Neuze D00cey and Kilmeade Full Cuck sellouts. Remember them cheering Trump and lovin’ those a.m. Trump call ins to Fox & Friends? These two morons still can’t comprehend Trump’s possession of this is of course legal for him to have. And it’s not a “leak” – it’s yet another Felony committed by the Dept. of Just-Us’ Jack Smith as with Alvin Bragg. A Felony for any prosecutor to leak exculp evidence let alone grand jury proceedings and it happens ALL the time with no consequences. Nothing of course about all the U.S. president’s who’ve had and done quite more including writing books on what they tok with them classified and unclassified. The difference is their names were and are not DONALD TRUMP… Anyway ….
Fox News host Steve Doocy suggested former President Trump may have been behind the leak of an audio recording showing Trump talking about his handling of classified documents.
“You know what? If Trump thinks it’s an exoneration of him, perhaps somebody on his side actually did the leaking to CNN and Maggie Haberman,” Doocy said Tuesday morning.
“That makes sense,” co-host Brian Kilmeade chimed in.
“It does, actually,” Doocy said. “He’s admitting he’s got classified documents.”
And this fit nicely for them right afte: Former prosecutor on new Trump tape: ‘This is game over’
Source: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4069757-fox-news-host-suggests-trump-may-have-leaked-audio-in-classified-documents-case/
The book publisher leaked the tape, not the DOJ.
And you know this how?
Smith leaked it.
And you know “That” how?
Truth is, we only know what they let us know.
What we hear is what they all want us to hear…
They keep their secrets… better believe that…ALL of them have secrets…
Were not in that club….
We just have to deal with whatever crap flows downstream onto our plates….
Dump em all in the ocean and start over. Fresh….
Drain the swamp, dredge the muck from the bottom so it Doesn’t taint the fresh waters….
Got a source for this? It’s not what I’ve seen from more than one source who haven’t missed a BEAT on anything important, but maybe I got it wrong. If it were the case would it also not be published i.e., book vs. exculp evidence used before a grand jury as “evidence”? And again, who before Trump has published actual info that was and remains damaging to this country – and did it with impunity at that. And continue to precisely that. Off hand I can cite at least five instances and even more from those who had/have no business under the Constitution with classified info to begin with. Clinton, Berger among the more notable aerobic examples. And Mark Milley who actually called the PLA/CCP to tell them he’d let them know about any dotMil action ahead of time. This PoS among many others still walk free all the way back to Daniel Ellsberg – and before.
Mocking them every chance we get, especially when it’s in the public domain is the best.
It is silly but equally dangerous with a mediocre ambulance chaser, like Smith, with the power to persecute ideological opponents.
The audio has Trump shuffling papers and saying look here it’s all here, it’s secret, bla bla. There is simply not enough time for anyone in the room to actually read a document. Unless someone testifies that Trump handed them a classified document, not just a cover page, it is nothing more than a stack of stuff still in Trumps hands. Even if he pulled one out and it had a classified title that someone saw, it is still nothing more than telling people he has classified stuff. Duh, of course he does.
Didn’t the DOJ/FBLie do the same thing when they spread out a bunch of cover pages on the floor that had classified titles, just to take pictures and show they have “stuff”? Didn’t the FBLie show us classified material?
I think the ultimate goal is to set up never ending trials and investigations that would be insurance if Trump wins again. When trump tries to replace or even talk about firing all the department heads and many of the upper beaurocracy, there will be lawsuits filed with charges of obstruction of justice and they will have judges ready to rule, effectively allowing all these scum to keep their jobs and continue to harass the president. This happened before and was effective in preventing any changes at DOJ and FBLie. Why wouldn’t they try it again?
Sundance had a good post last night on how the tape would not be admissible for just these reasons. Smith would need testimony of the contents of the papers being shuffled, and unless one of those there was close enough to read the print or see some big security markings, there is no evidence that they actually saw national security papers.
This was to taint the jury pool, and also possibly to distract from Judge Cannon’s shoot-down of the request to keep the witness list sealed.
How many of the scum do you think will want their jobs once the department of whatever has it’s headquarters moved to West Underwear, Alaska. There is more than one way to skin a Cat as they say.
McCarthy played along with his interview on CNBC. Trump is tainted BS! It’s time Republicans started calling out the SAME CRAP is being played by the SAME PEOPLE that tried to take PDJT down and ruin his Presidency. McCarthy, McConnell, and Murdock are ALL anti-Trump. Get off Fox NOW. Why support anything that HATES YOU?
Do we even have any Republican who are truly on our side though? It’s funny to me that the one’s who, at least pretend to be on our side are always so outnumbered that it doesn’t matter what they say or do anyway. Who says they’re not just playing a role and it’s safe for them because nothing will actually get done anyway.
Ron Johnson and John Kennedy in the Senate seem to be honest. Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Bobert in the House seem to want Trump as President again.
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The “-R” normies seem to like the USS DeSantis though of course fail the fact that should DeSantis get his trip up the I-95 Acela corridor he will not bring with him: 1. His allied FL. state Senate. 2. His allied FL state House. 3. His allied state and county level District Attorneys of which the overwhelming majority of them are save for an exceedingly small number who are not i.e. the Hillsborough County D.A. who I believe was fired, for cause. 4. The Florida State Sheriff’s Association. The neo-marixist makes all the noise about DeSantis simply because they hate Trump more. Trump has lived experience man. No, I won’t be rolling the dice on DeSantis at this point in this sick depraved country. It’s too late for that. They’ll eat DeSantis ALIVE. Past even this, look at who DeSantis backers are…, though even if his cheering idiots heard the names the associations would likely also be lost on them. It’s like Bannon always says… “All the easy decisions were 50 years ago”. To which I say – You Betcha’.
Im posting this here so you can keep an eye on the other hand effecting the 2024 election outcome….
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-republicans-north-carolina-elections-dispute-rcna68630
Thank God all of MAGA went to the gates of hell for Brett Kavanaugh so he could act like the member of the political ruling class everyone feared he might be (sarc).
Once again, SCOTUS defies the constitution in a 6-3 ruling against Republicans in North Carolina, shutting down the notion that state legislatures have plenary power over prescribing federal election laws.
This decision will have a MAJOR impact on the inevitable challenges that follow the 2024 election cycle.
The constitution states CLEARLY that election rules “shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof.” Giving legislatures ultimate power to prescribe election law without interference from the state courts.
SCOTUS feels otherwise…
Okay, William Jacobsen at Legal Insurrection indicated that the request for a delay was not any indication of a lack of evidence but a normal request. The Trump legal team did not object to moving the trial back.
I’m not disagreeing with anything here. I accept it all, I’m just saying what he reported.
William Jacobsen at Legal Insurrection is controlled opposition, 100%. Jacobsen is a neverTrumper from 2015.
William jacobsen is in the tank for rhonda santis. He has never been enthusiastic about PDJT, only begrudgingly pseudo supported as POTUS. KNOW It ALL
The tape was made at his golf club. Where every former president keeps classified documents laying around, right next to the bowl of peanuts. Classified documents make great coasters for whatever is on tap. The media are morons.
Wouldn’t the prosecution have to prove that the document traveled from Trumps home in FL where ‘boxes’ of documents were seized, to NJ where the tape was made? Or NJ to FL? Does Trump take the documents on golf outings?
Other transcriptions I’ve read DJT says “this is off the record” – that he was recorded and the recording was released is a breach of confidentiality, ethics and morality … there is an ethical sense in which when DJT says “this is off the record”, the person he is speaking to is extended a kind of personal security clearance (trusted) to hear, but not repeat, what is being said. Like “can you keep a secret” … it’s not a measure of DJT but of the trustworthiness of the hearer, who obviously, disregarded the personal confidentiality DJT accorded to him/her.
When these Godless bolsheviks are dragged into the street I hope I am there.
They really don’t want to be forced to assassinate trump. But their propaganda via msm and social media is a proven way to win elections, both here and a dozen other countries we’ve done this in.
The only people who fail to see the writing on the wall are either shills or radical leftists. I’ve seen no rational people over on Quora defending these politically motivated charges against trump.
Surprisingly the educated left are the main dems who recognize that red flags against democracy are becoming more frequent.
I told you we are going to watch CNN and then you can leave
Similar to this argument, is not the Hunter Biden texts stating “I am sitting here next to my father” a nothingburger? I mean, hes a whacked out crack addicted nutjob texting god know what? He could text Im sitting here next to the ghost of Elvis, doesnt make it true. They could play the Hunter is a dipshit card and say he texts all kinds of nonsense. Prove from a text from a looney person that The Big Man is truly sitting next to him at that moment? I dont think you can
Except for the resultant bank transfer, sure.
It is jury tampering, that is all. But it is a long way from the actual trial. So, not quite sure about the stunt. It would be funny to see Trump wins from sitting during the trial. If convicted, then he can pardon himself. Heads explode, lol.
“That’s real retarded, Mr. Smith.”
What’s particularly galling is FoxNews promulgating this laughable story and their talking heads showing deep concern that this could be serious for Trump. Disgusting.
Rupert, James and Lachlans useful idiots making sure master gives them their doggie treats at the end of the day! 🐩😏🤨
Good Lord, wasn’t this basically first leaked by MSDNC about two or three weeks ago and got a lot of 😴😴😴😴😴! Are they actually trying TO REGURGITATE THIS ONLY THIS TIME USING CNN! A bit late to the party eh CNN! Quick, someone tell Anderson Cooper, they put a man on the MOON! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
If it’s a “joke” I’m not laughing….especially after the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, two impeachments, Mar A Lago raid, the two indictments, and the promise of more to come. I am sick of this crap. I am sick of the release of “snippets “ of info from our own government to influence public opinion.
And I hope I’m not the only one…
POLITICS
Iran memo not among the 31 records underlying charges in Trump federal indictmentBY ANDRES TRIAY, CATHERINE HERRIDGE, ROBERT LEGARE
UPDATED ON: JUNE 27, 2023 / 7:45 PM / CBS NEWS
Smith’s 37-count indictment against Trump includes 31 charges of willfully retaining national defense information. It generally outlines each of the 31 classified records that prosecutors allege Trump illegally kept, without naming the exact subject matter. The Iran memo is not part of the list of the 31 records in the indictment, the source said.
Throughout the years-long federal investigation into Trump’s White House records, investigators have collected more than 300 documents with classified markings on them — including 103 seized during the execution of a search warrant at Trump’s Florida residence last year.
Multiple sources familiar with the investigation previously told CBS News that defense attorneys were not certain the Iran memo in question was ever recovered and returned to the government. Still, the 2021 incident is one of two instances referenced in the indictment, in which Smith describes Trump allegedly showing national defense information to individuals without proper clearance.