This is a totally freehand writing for CTH readers, not written with any intent other than our conversation.
For a long time, I have written various forms of an article and deleted it – crumpled it up and thrown it away… because it’s just so hard to write about.
However, an insightful comment by Dutchman today has just pushed me to write it. Unlike most writing, this is no notes, few citations, just thoughts.
You guys are having a discussion about Larry Hogan’s commentary to CBS News.
In the middle of the discussion, someone writes the familiar and common sentiment about Ron DeSantis, a reasonably decent and good governor, doing his big politically stupid run for 2024. Dutchman responds:
DUTCHMAN – […] “IMHO, you and others who express your sentiment, don’t REALLY “get it”;
The WHOLE reason DeSantis was the most popular Governor throughout his first term, was a CON;
EVERY action he took as Governor, was a political calculation planned and intended to create the image of “the free State of Florida” and RDS as “Trump lite”.
It wasn’t that “he changed” after getting the $millions, he was ALWAYS terrible at connecting with voters, a terrible campaigner, and he was NEVER MAGA; it was all a “PR.” or advertising campaign to create a totally artificial, and unconnected from reality IMAGE.
And it is that IMAGE that people “fell in love with” and it never existed.
This is important because if people don’t understand this, recognize they were “conned” and understand HOW they were manipulated, they will keep falling for it, every time.
However, once you understand your own vulnerability to being manipulated, accept you need to CHANGE how you view things, THEN you won’t need someone else (like Sundance) to point it out to you, again.
5 minutes of OBJECTIVELY looking at a candidate, will be about 4 1/2 minutes more than necessary, to spot the phonies.” (link)
Perhaps, let me take you back to the spring of 2022 in my thoughts, and show you just how subtle, weird and difficult it is to really understand the nature of this political world we are in right now. A political world where nothing is what it seems. I have been inside this research rabbit hole for over a decade, so bear with me.
[SIDEBAR – Y’all know how I dug, and dug, and dug, and dug into the GOPe after the 2012 election to figure out just how the powers that be are able to construct the illusion of choice. From that research I was able to drill down into the raw material, the stuff they actually did, that outlined the concept of the “splitter strategy”, which I then held in my notes until 2015 while watching for the replay. The work back in 2012 helped me to foresee what would happen in 2016, and like clockwork, it rolled out exactly as expected.]
In the winter of 2021 and spring of 2022, every Spidey-sense within me said Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is setting himself up for a 2024 run for the GOP nomination. Every data point that I was looking at aligned with it happening, and that included the part that no one was paying attention to in 2016.
♦BACKGROUND – In 2015, when Marco Rubio filed to run as a candidate for the 2016 GOP nomination for President, then little known one-term congressman Ron DeSantis filed to run for Rubio’s Senate seat. WTF? DeSantis’ only real qualification to run for that Florida Senate seat was a big donor assist from the Club 4 Growth. CfG supported DeSantis in Congress, big time – and CfG was the financial mechanism behind DeSantis in 2016 to take the Rubio Senate seat if he won the GOP nomination. Just keep this in mind.
In the latter part of 2021 and early 2022, all of the obscure stuff in the background of DeSantis looked like he was being positioned to run in 2024.
It was January 6, 2022, when someone (Pushaw) organized that influencer confab at the governor’s office. However, and this is where my own intellectual bias comes into play at times defeating my cynicism, I kept telling myself there’s no way DeSantis could be so stupid.
No way, regardless of all the mechanics that were paving this path, that Ron DeSantis would be stupid enough to run against a likely reelection bid by Donald Trump. For over six months, I kept putting the human factor at the forefront and forcing myself to ignore all of the datapoints that indicated DeSantis was being managed to do this. After all, c’mon, he’s not a stupid guy…. I kept telling myself.
Even in July 2022, every time the thought crossed my mind to revisit this issue, I kept making the mistake of denying the data, denying what was visible, simply because the alternative to stupidity was almost unthinkable in scale.
♦The Alternative – If DeSantis wasn’t stupid, and if DeSantis was indeed going to run for 2024, the alternative to stupidity was a long-term plan… A plan that would have been laid out essentially before his first campaign in 2018…. A plan that times to the exact same moments when Paul Ryan and the other GOPe member of congress announced they were not seeking midterm reelection for Trump’s midterm race…. A plan that coincided with buckets of former CIA operatives running for congress in both the Democrat and Republican races in that 2018 midterm…. A plan that had Eric Holder working in California to trigger the first ballot harvesting test run….
If DeSantis wasn’t stupid, the alternative was that he was part of a larger operation being carried out by the real power brokers who control U.S. elections, the billionaire donors and control agents, ie. “The Big Club.”
Now, stay with me… Under this scenario, if DeSantis wasn’t stupid, then he was always a controlled ‘political’ operative waiting to be triggered and have his career boosted by the Big Club crowd who funded him. Names like Bush, Clinton, Cheney, McCain, Romney and McConnell all circle this controlled orbit.
The odd, and seemingly impossible, DeSantis registration to run for the Florida Senate seat of Marco Rubio aligned with this almost conspiratorial outlook; except it wasn’t based on conspiracy theory, it was just a big datapoint, sitting there – staring back.
All of the data aligned that way, but I kept telling myself to ignore it – because at a certain point human reason has to be placed into the analysis, and there’s no way that DeSantis would be so stupid. Surely, regardless of how much he was controlled and influenced, he -the person- would have the ability to say, “No, this is just silly.”
That said, throughout the spring and summer of 2022, 80% of the objective data, and even more when considered in historic context, indicated DeSantis was going to enter the 2024 election at the behest of the people who control the Republican National Committee, the Republican Governors Association and the various political fundraising committees in both the House and Senate along with PAC’s and Superpacs.
In essence, if DeSantis was indeed planning a 2024 White House run, then all of the datapoints reconciled. If he wasn’t going to run, then there was just a lot of coincidental questions that didn’t make sense in the activity.
When faced with that scenario, you apply the scientific method and try to prove the opposite of the thesis.
Could I prove: DeSantis was *not* going to run and was *not* under the control of the Big Club (Sea Island et al)? The answer was no.
Now it’s July 2022. The headlines were all about Donald Trump and the conflicts with the NARA over documents and presidential records. Something was coming.
I told myself to put away all of the DeSantis questions until that moment with Trump was triggered; then wait and see how he responds.
If DeSantis is abhorred by the outcome of the DOJ/FBI targeting of Florida resident Trump, then he likely was not part of the plan to use him. However, if DeSantis was not abhorred by whatever was being cooked up, well, that would tell a big story.
On August 8th, 2022, when the FBI raided the home of Donald Trump, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis sent out one short twitter comment from his “personal” page and then went fully silent and invisible.
Despite his extremely high Florida visibility, literally almost every single day of the year holding press conferences and media events, DeSantis went fully into a bunker after the raid, and for five days was completely silent and missing from the public. There was no opportunity to question DeSantis about his feelings on the raid.
Instead, the people managing the governor broadcast two pre-recorded video messages about innocuous subjects and never made a public appearance.
Simultaneously, the people around the governor restructured a newly branded national campaign, and launched a national tour outside the State of Florida immediately after the five days in the bunker. These tours are planned long in advance, so someone knew something.
Mid-August 2022, the national tour, the book, the media use, the change in tone and personality, the new branding message, the people visited for fundraising, all of it… carefully scripted, long planned and being executed on cue. All prior polling showed a double-digit lead in Florida. Democrats had pulled out of financing; the Democrat Governors Association didn’t put in a dime to support Charlie Crist, and yet DeSantis was banging a big tin cup raking in tens-of-millions.
Immediately, I said that’s it… that’s enough. The evidence is overwhelming… It’s August 2022, and its crystal-clear; DeSantis is running for 2024, and I was confident outlining every step in the customary sequence that would take place including the timing of his announcement to May 2023. It was all obvious.
But back to the scenario…. Back to the discussion y’all are having…. Back to my original thoughts in 2021….
….If DeSantis isn’t stupid, that means?
It means exactly what Dutchman has just said. “This is important because if people don’t understand this, recognize they were “conned” and understand HOW they were manipulated, they will keep falling for it, every time.”
It means Ron DeSantis was a Big Club operation put into play in 2018.
Start there, review the timeline, review the events and everything makes sense. Republicans are very good at creating the illusion of choice. They are doing it again, only this time they are failing.
The sad thing is….. My son, ultra MAGA 32 yr old. Actually cries in 2020 when vote stopped. Called me 2am. He’s in PA.
Saw him today. He said”MOM! Rfk was on Rogan today. You and I know but no one else does in the low info crowd.”
He essentially said that every one of his age group is loving RFK. All his age group agree anti-vax, they’ve been brought up climate crap. They know no different. RFK is fighting the establishment. A good thing.
This younger crowd KNOWS , but is lost in their knowledge. My son called me last to confirm. “Is RFK a libertarian or a liberal?” He knew but many of his friends were saying he was libertarian. Ugh. Language hijack.
He called his friends to say he was a bleeding liberal. My son bleeds Trump red white and blue. He predicts that the awake younger crowd will go with RFK. They think he is MAGA. How to we fix this?
Their education puts them at a disadvantage. They are paying attention, but being swayed in the wrong direction.
Gunnar’s peeps already voted for a brain damaged stroke patient over an accomplished DOCTOR of medicine. PA is a lost cause. They want free shit, and will vote for whomever promises the most free shit. Who better than a Kennedy? And more spending on The Green New Deal. More boiler room jobs selling solar panels by phone. More massive Federal subsidies for “green” energy companies who inevitably pocket the subsidies, then go bankrupt
There are more of us PA maga than you think. We just don’t go around blabbering it out. We ARE cold anger! With steely resolve. So? Pray without ceasing……God is on our side.
signed,
One of many PA Maga
When I think about Pennsylvania, I remember that huge crowd that President Trump drew at that airport… in some pretty bad conditions… the last rally before the Big Steal. There is no way he lost the vote there.
Pennsylvanians got the screw… I’m still pissed about the mail-in ballot “unconstitutional” ruling that was just brushed aside and simply forgotten.
We should all join our local RNC meetings and try to make a difference, we’ve got to come at if from the bottom… there is no other way. The state RNC is a big reason PA voters aren’t seeing the results, we all KNOW they delivered on election night in 2020.
Keep up the fight, Bonny!
Trump had a massive lead on election night in PA. When the counting paused, it was clear they were trying to determine how many ballots they needed to overcome his lead. Sure enough, with the help of fraudulent ballots, that lead vanished. I will never believe that the result in PA was legitimate. Same MO applies to GA, AZ, MI and WI. They don’t even care if it looks believable anymore.
Actually, the “pause” was so that they could reset the #’s in the algorythm, which uses the “weighted vote” option, then using the “vote flipping option” to bring the cheating and behind candidate up to near parity, so that the algorythm “weighted vote” new #’s, can move them ahead once they start counting again.
They then need 10-15,000 paper ballots, to “backfill” in order to cover for the discrepency between # of votes cast, and ballots scanned.
Rather than explain in more detail, be assured BECAUSE of the exposure of how it works, including letting the cheaters know that we know, and because we have “broken the seal” that Dominion/ESE had that prevented our experts from getting inside the machines, (due to “proprietary info”)
THIS WAY OF CHEATING CAN NOT BE USED, ANY MORE.
And the proof of this is we KNOW they did NOT use this system of cheating in ANY election in 2022, not even in must steal Maracopa County.
Further, they can not use the system they DID use, in Maracopa in 2022, of installing malware in the machines in “red” districts any more, either.
We CAUGHT them, and caught County election officials perjurying themselves over this.
What the Cheaters are left with, is old school ballot stuffing, and voter suppression.
Firstly, understand that if you live in a”ruby red” MAGA rural district, generally speaking (know your local politics!) thats NOT where the cheating is occurring; it occurs in the large, metro areas.
Not because large cities are full of Dems, but because they can hide 10-50,000 phantom voters in a city of millions, not in a sparsely populated county that may only have 10,000 residents.
So, lets talk about voter suppression, in the “old days” of one day elections, cheaters would turn off the streetlights, around their opponents polling places, or arrange for street repairs; anything to suppress turn out or the counting of the opponents votes.
In Maracopa County 2022, they just did a high tech version, in messing with the machines.
The thing is, WE can avoid most of their methods of voter suppression, by simply using the early in person or vote by mail options.
There is no way for them to easily and efficiently single out Just “our” voters to “suppress” unlike when we vote in person, on election day.
Having ‘lost’ the Dominion system, they will need both voter suppression AND ballot stuffing and to overcome a landslide, an awful lot of each.
Again, look at Maracopa,2022. Its is estimated that the “broken’ machines cost KL 48,000 votes.
Hobbs putatative ‘margin of victory’ was only 17,000 votes.
Without succesfully suppressing our voters by breaking the machines, KL woyld be Gov. now.
AND, WE have control over this, IF we can get our voters, IN LARGE METRO CITIES, to understand and change the way they vote.
“Legal ballot harvesting” is simply an extension of GOTV; it is voter education.
And THIS is what the PDJT Campaign is going to need lots of volonteers to do; calling, texting, e-mailing and face to face visits, IN THE BIG CITIES, to identify, motivate and educate MAGA voters on HOW to vote, and how not to vote, in ordsr to insure their votes are counted.
As for “ballot stuffing” we know quite a bit about HOW they do it, and so can act to thwart their efforts.
Crooked election officials, regardless of party affiliation, IN LARGE CITIES, stuff the roles with “phantom voters” and either the County mails out ballots to ALL registered voters, or these phantom voters are shown as having requested mail out ballots.
The county, on a date certain mails out the ballots.
These phantom voter ballot envelopes need to be ‘captured’ by the illegal harvesters, opened discarding the mail out envelop, the ballot marked and inserted into the mail in envelope, already with a “return address” and name which matches the info on the voter rolls, the envelope needs to be SIGNED, and then either mailed in, or dropped in a drop box.
This last part is what the 2000 mules were doing, but they can’t do THAT last part, that way, any more.
Too easy to follow the mules, back to the source, where the ballot envelope stuffing operation occurs.
But, they still need to GET these envelopes, after thet are mailed out.
Jay Valentines “fractal search engine” (Omega4America) is ideal for this; it compares voter rolls to county property records, and identifies all phantom voters,….AND SHOWS THE ADDRESS their ballot envelope will be mailed to.
A phone query to the County Recorder, to inquire A) WHEN will the ballots be mailed iut B) WHEN should I expect it in my mailbox?
So, …options.
Stake out some of those addresses, on the day and follow the illegal ballot harvester back to “the nest” where the envelope stuffing is taking place.
Use your imagination for the mischief you could create for the cheaters.
Option; TAKE the ballots, right after the mailman delivers them, and before the illegal harvester can.
Note, you are NOT stealing anyones mail, these phantoms don’t exist. And, they are sent to a location where they will be “laying out where anyone could get them” your just being “anyone”.
NONE of these harvesters were “caught” or arrested in 2020, but IF you choose to go this route, consider carefully the consequences.
Often, there are STACKS of these ballots, addressed to a large apt. complex, butcwith no Apt. # so they are just laying there, next to or on top of the mailbox.
Even without the fractal search engine tool, which is practical where voter rolls are free or minimal chg. but not where States charge a lot, making the “rounds” of large apt. complexes and similar locations can yield a lot of ballots, and every one snatched up, is unacvailable to the cheaters.
Finally, these phantom ballots do them no good, unless the sig. var system is compromised, otherwise the signature scrawled by the harvester would never pass, and so the ballot would never be counted.
Again, the ONLY way the ballot enclosed in the mail in envelope, with a phoney signature on it, is counted is if THEY have insured the signature verufication system is ‘compromised’ otherwise the enclised ballot would never be scanned.
Everything you say is valid. 100%. My point was that the 32 yr olds did NOT vote for what they have now. The snakes cannot use it again. My point was that my son said that the younger crowd was excited about RFK. Especially since he was on Rogan, who they all listen to. My son is afraid that they are being snowed by RFK’s upset the apple cart that they want, and that the Boomers???(obviously not all) are trending toward the Kennedy name. My son has the Trump hats. Will be attending birthday parties, graduations, etc. setting the record straight, Hopefully.
He brought all of his friends to Trump Nation. Now they are wavering. We need a way to get the word out to the “awake” but essentially low info crowd, just raising their families. Too damn busy to follow the narrative
This is actually good news, I think. RFK Jr. is extremely unlikely to beat Biden and the Dem machine for the nomination, but a certain percentage of the younger vote that he attracts with his populist leanings, will switch to Trump, just like the Bernie supporters did in 2016.
I agree with you… the DNC will give him the Bernie Sanders treatment… just more screw, less beach house.
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RFKJr. has spent his life as a plaintiff’s trial lawyer. Thus his entire worldview is colored by an affinity in favor of those who may have been injured from: medical malpractice, environmental disasters, government overreach, fraud, and other injustices.
While this may manifest in some excellent policies, it also creates a bias toward some bad ideas when the facts of an issue are not within his personal expertise, such as concern for the environment where that is unwarranted (e.g. climate change), or an inclination in favor of bogus claims of “human rights” (e.g. unlimited immigration).
In addition, RFKJr. does not have the knowledge or breadth of experience that we desperately need right now to save the country (and which Donald Trump uniquely does have) in the areas of international relations, business, and economics.
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You are absolutely correct. He is an ambulance chaser, and a good one. Does not have the skill set to be president.
What’s the size of the largest staff he has ever supervised? Fifty?
I doubt even that.
Too smart for their own good?
Rfk appears to be way better than desantis
You remind them that RFK Jr is a Democrat and ask that… if he knows all he professes… and he’s had father and uncle murdered… why does he still run with the Democrat crowd?
He has name and affluence… why not disavow and go independent?
Trust your spiritual discernment. Would YOU knowingly hang with your family’s murderers?
After J6,Same could be said about Trump running as Republican instead of I. Nothing but backstabbing #Uniparty
I’m not sure if what you are describing is “sad.” I myself in my late sixties have never experienced such a thing as the attacks from all angles on PDJT. I am at times lost in the wilderness as well, stunned at the blatant savagery against a human being, let alone a President of the US.
Myself, I cherish truthtellers. And I don’t care what party they are from.
But the political, industrial, military, pharma, and voting complexes all have their designs, plans, and are all striving to be “in control.” That I think is where the “real” war is occurring. All are fighting for our minds and allegiance to them.
There is “nothing to fix” as far as I am concerned about RFK. I really think PDJT and RFK Jr. are of the same ilk. Truthtellers.
It is too early to get caught up in our underwear about either candidate this soon. Myself, I am just trying to calm my anxiety (hard job) about what is happening now.
You are blessed to have a son who is a cogent individual. I’m not a parent, but I’d say let him grow into his own awareness and enjoy, not fret over him.
The universe is unfolding as it should The “adults” in all categories mentioned above either have sphincters’ squeezed so tight they will be impacted for life. And conversely, there are other’s who are wearing Depends and have lost control over their bowels.
I am still trying to read what the grey pallor of Merrick Garland means. And Brandon, putting on his act of “insanity” just as the chickens come home to roost are both very interesting to me.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Garland resigns for “health” reasons and Biden , his act of pretending insanity is becoming a Captain Obvious ploy.
We live in interesting times. And Dutchman, thank you.
It IS an act of insanity. Never believed any of his incoherent blabbering. Just lke Vincent Gigante. Look that guy up! Cept Brandon wears nice suits.
well said Retired IG
It’s true. But if you don’t KNOW truth, how can you find the WAY? I taught my kids truth but the WORLD is a strong pull. My son is grounded. Funny, when you have kids, the whole world changes. He will fight for his child. He most definitely will not vote liberal RFK, but how does he persuade his peers is the question. Remember all the Bernie Bro’s? They DO want to upset the cart but their schooling has them at a disadvantage that we all take for granted. How do we reach these young adults yearning for something they do not even understand? I hope people are coming back to this thread for answers or suggestions
I am MAGA, and would vote for RFK over RDS any day.
If it is between those 2, we are really screwed.
RFK jr buys into CLIMATE CHANGE.
Make sure your son lets others know.
He should also have some commentary on his website about that.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/
RFK Jr is also not a 2A supporter. That is a big concern for me.
Great, when the Democrap Party shuffles RFK to the ash heap he can run as an Independent and Trash the Democrap vote Scam!
THIS IS EVEN BETTER.
This man took one county, followed the numbers of voter, party trends and DESTROYS the people denying election fraud.
https://skeshel.substack.com/p/the-keshel-method-explained-westmoreland
Good read. Doesn’t really matter how the numbers were stole it’s the fraudulent numbers that count and that show the steal.
Yet he showed over a decade how the Republican numbers rose even with people leaving the county. So, there is no mathematical way any Democrat could win with fake increased numbers.
Truly gold. Brett Baier are you reading here?
LOLOLOL! God help us!
“…Trump-won counties were shaved to reduce margin of victory and make final outcomes believable, and Democrat-won counties were artificially inflated to produce as much margin as possible.”
Yep. The math is SO in your FACE!!! Except we no longer have many people who understand…MATH.
When you watch birds all day everything takes the characteristics of birds, why not look at something else.
There is a group of people who reside on these branches. They see God.
Comfort knowing that.
Yes we do.
No question. DeSantis has been deliberately “packaged” as “Trump without the baggage” by the power elites who ALLOWED him to enact some policies that had the “sheen” of MAGA without giving up any real ground.
It’s nothing but a marketing scam, with Florida state policy offered up as a sacrificial pawn.
But I’ve noticed a curious trend.
The people who think Ron’s record in Florida represents genuine MAGA, for the most part, are ALSO the same ones who were hoodwinked into thinking that the Russians were being humiliated on the battlefield.
Anybody else noticed this?
Mind you, the people I’m talking about are 100% MAGA on virtually every other issue.
Immediately after explaining how DeSantis is a fraud, I inevitably have to explain to the same people that Ukraine is getting it’s ass kicked to satisfy Victoria Nuland and the Neocon gang.
You are not crazy, Sundance. Before I really knew what was going on, I started to sense the scripting with Obama v McCain. All the optics are downright weird when you really think about it. It is all a script, on both sides and it really doesn’t matter who wins. We are given the choices they want us to have. If the RNC cared, they would prop Trump because that is who the People want.
McCain was sold as our ONLY chance to defeat the FIRST half-caucasian to ever run for POTUS. Because he was a “moderate” Republican. Only a “moderate” candidate stood a chance. Nope. That’s a ridiculous notion … but the RNC is utterly committed to it.
Was utter;u dismayed when McCain was chosen. Had heard from number
of liberal acquantainces that IF they were to EVER vote Republican, it would
be for McCain. So he was damaged goods to me before I knew anything else
about the man.
Sarah Palin was chosen to be destroyed. The uniparty dislikes honesty.
Only it backfired. The anger over her treatment, and support of her policies
‘laid some foundations for Trump to utilize.
De Santis? Durchman had it right. The big boys let him accomplish things
voter actually wanted done, to make them believe he was one of us. The
actions him and his backers did made lies of his prior, populist pleasing
deeds.
So true… when I was invited to meet the leaders of the GOP at a highly influential “contributors” home, I was asked to come and meet Rick Scott, who at that time was an unknown bystander. I had made a Tea Party presentation outlining the ‘common mans’ desire for the direction of this country (reflecting about 500k opinions). The response I received from them was, “you’re responsible for electing your representatives”. It was then, I had my aha moment. It’s always and still is about creating ambiguous perceptions. A choice between inexact alternatives.. which really doesn’t exist. And wouldn’t you know it, shortly after that Rick Scott became Governor. It was just a big club meeting and they obviously found me as entertainment.
Thank you Dutchmen for outlining the comprehensive moment and to you SD, your brilliance always shines.
I forget who made the comment but it stuck with me.
Someone here once posted that back when you were a child, your Mom might set out two outfits for you to pick from, while you saw yourself as choosing your own clothes.
My eyes opened wide when watching the debate for President. and VP in 2012! Romney could’ve obliterated Obama when he was making a point and the moderator took over the debate and Romney backed down!
Then watching the VP debate and with Biden doing his Biden stuff, mannerisms and the laughing while lying and Ryan just clammed up and didn’t fight back. That was it for me, I knew it was all fixed and fake. There’s no way Obama won that election fair and square.
Well presented and thought through… I learned a couple of things, SD! Thanks.
I never understood DeSantis early ending his Congressional term until he “suddenly” ran for Goveror. Back then I suspected he was being groomed by the Bushites. Then as Governor I always suspected DeSantis policies were focus group derived. But at the frail/milquetoast response on Mar-A-Lago raid especially on his personal email, I knew at that point the elite cabal were backing him. But those two Trump endorsements of DeSantis didn’t make sense for me later settling that as shoring up FL for GOP election wins. Sundance’s early articles helped me to see DeSantis was a tool. I’ve also believed for some time since the sudden appearance of GW Bush back in 2000 who I had really never heard of, quickly became the GOP front runner. I realized our choices were “chosen” for us. But maybe caught up in the hopium in 2016 I saw Trump as “not” the elite cabal’s choice in 2016 which brought me out to vote. I’ve been questioning that ever since. What am I missing on this? Maybe it’s nothing more than wanting to believe…or, I’m so jaded by the lying corrupt govt I suspect everything.
As the perspicacious saying goes, “politics in the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.” You have to be able to recognize that it is all fake and gay, and designed to keep citizens mollified and docile with the illusion that they control their own fate and have a say in how their country is run and their taxes are spent.
In order the understand how much of an illusion America™️, the constitution™️, and the red vs. blue dynamic™️ actually are, you have to understand the concepts of psychopathy and psychological warfare.
Viewed through the prism of those two concepts (psychopathy for the elites and psychological warfare for everything you read, see, argue about, and agitate for) the phoniness and gayness of the whole system snaps into focus. The entire “reality” of the United States of America is an empire of lies.
Excellent!, Sundance!!
You are center 10 ring!
RdS had a choice obvious to us all; team up with Our Very Stable Genius (full-throated real support) standing proudly as the Biggest Trump Supporter in MAGA-Land; or, Oppose the Greatest President in our Lifetime(s) and the G.O.A.T.
Choosing option A would have put in the next Administration as VP followed by 8 years as POTUS.
Choosing option B — against all logic — exposed his for the POS he truly is.
He cannot hide, he cannot win, he cannot survive such abject stupidity or craven treachery, it matters not which is the correct assessment of him.
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I confess that for a while I too was perplexed as to why this initially MAGA-touting guy who owed his 2018 win to Trump didn’t continue to support Trump and look toward carrying the torch in 2028 (being from Florida, by the way, VP would be out). In retrospect it’s proof that DeSantis was fraudulent MAGA all along.
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“You don’t understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let’s face it. It was you, Charley.”
Sundance,
Rereading your post, after reading all the comments, ..
So, this posting is like a “comment” from you, lol. At least its like my comments; I do as you describe, very little research, just “off the cuff” (probably shows?) refreshing, hope you will do it, again.
Your spidey sense must have been “coming thru” unconsciously, because MY spidey sense was twanging away about RDS, long before you first took the plunge and openly “called out” RDS, and I clearly remember, in that period well BEFORE you called him out, seeing little, ambiguous hints that I took as confirmation that RDS was,…questionable.
Gratified and humbled, …
I didn’t catch on as early as some of you, but once you realize that the Uniparty loves to keep voters at each others’ necks with social issues, while ignoring all matters of money…
From the fake stand against Disney… to becoming the first state that makes you wait until second grade to start grooming kids… borrowing and stealing from the man (standing up to fake news, mannerisms, etc)… once Pushaw and company were on the scene, it was a given.
I hate to sound so cynical but I thought they even used his wife’s cancer diagnosis as well. They played every card to position this guy one after the other… he would be the Trump-lite candidate, the one that would ride in with a white hat after they throw the kitchen sink at President Trump for a third time… only to sell us out in typical RINO fashion.
dutch, you and Sundance have both stood steadfast and have not shied away… I recall a couple of years ago, the flack that went up when anyone suggested that DeSantis was not what he seemed. We can all learn a thing or two from that example.
Once again, Sundance, dutchman, and the rest of you continue to make this my go-to news source. It serves as a most reliable barometer of what’s going on in the World. I appreciate you all.
No one thinks you are “crazy” Sundance. It’s funny that you say that, because you sound so perfectly reasonable. It all makes sense after your “crazy” ass explains it to us. And thanks to you Dutchman!
I’ve had a theory for a while now that Desantis is the next 81 million vote getter if you catch my drift. Trump and whatever D they prop up against him lose, and the big club runs with the Trump is over story, with the bonus story of “see an R won, elections aren’t rigged Trump was lying all along…”
Exactly why Trump should be Independent
Guaranteed to lose, if Trump would go Independent.
Luckily he has no intention of doing that.
Remember, Ross Perot … we can’t afford a split vote.
Your not listening, We already lost… the point of this article AND I believe Trump knows this- “they” already have their lesser than 2 evil candidates ready. Both #Uniparty, this I am afraid,may include Trump.
Have never been fully convinced that Perot was the real deal.
When I did some looking into the accumulation of his wealth,
something jumped out at me. For Perot to keep his pile, it would
have benefitted him the most to leave everything exactly as it
was.
Perot might have been a splitter candidate before people were
aware of the term. My own opinion on this subject.
Yup… they’ve got some brand management to work on. More bondo and spray paint, coming up!
This is where Republicans campaign on turning the car around… once they get the wheel, they’ll let off the gas, continue the talk, while never finding the exit to go back the other way. By the time most figure out that they’ve been had, we’ll lose the better part of another decade to the globalist march.
Thank God President Trump DID endorse him so the real Ron was outed!
Naysayers often ask why President Trump endorsed Ron! It is so obvious. He would have won anyways via rigged election if not enough votes come in. The big flip. By endorsing him he brought light on the not running but running playbook. Knowing he was going to be the chosen adversary, cuz of course he sees it, PRESIDENT Trump played the Uni trying to play him!
Now, remove all bias, preconceived notions and look at Trump.
Why did he keep reading the ‘Snake Poem’ at MAGA Rally’s? I think he answered it…
Everything is orchestrated to keep us from actually fighting. It’s impossible otherwise, the connections from old western movies about Trump building a ‘big beautiful wall’ to the book, ‘The last Republic’. A wealthy man of the people just happens to live at the same address as Trump Tower & becomes president only to have the House/Senate legislate around the clock to destroy this nation.
Sorry, I’m batting a perfect score spotting snakes & Trump’s been bothering me for a laundry list of reasons for quite some time… if they really wanted Trump gone, he’d be gone. Something stinks my fellow citizens.
Eventually, we’ll know, one way or another, Trump still has my vote because there isn’t anyone else.
Agree Especially his spending (like every Pres same ole,same ole)recklessly during his tenure and Covid response Topped by vax response to BrettBair recently, still did not condemn it.
Knowing elections are still rigged. Why wouldn’t he run as Independent and show the world his true following? Crushing the TWO PARTY as bonus. Hell ask JFKJr to run as Independent too! Why he gives ANY R the time of day…much less “count on them” for support,again !SMH who does this? Fool me once…
I am in the same camp. Very concerned about Trump in the pit of my stomach. Will vote for him, but I don’t think our Country would survive a betrayal by him.
Welcome my friends to the show that never ends…
Humanity has fully entered the Disinformation Age.
We shouldn’t be shocked; it was foretold in the Bible. It’s only going to get worse which is why the very first statement Jesus gave about the end times was a warning, “See to it that no one deceives you.”
The president of a local university where I teach made an interesting observation about education, “From the beginning of civilization up until about the year 2010, education was about the acquisition of knowledge. Today, with Google and the Internet the challenge is discerning what is true.”
Learning and discerning are different skill sets. The latter requires wisdom which begins with fear of the LORD. The woke don’t have it.
Thus, the Dutchman corollary could be: “The majority of information that anyone receives in today’s society is being driven by an agenda (most likely money or power/influence) instead of truth. See to it that no one deceives you.
That could apply to everything prior to 2010 as well. Indoctrination is not education.
It’s a good thing Clinton didn’t inhale. He would have looked even more stoned in that pic next to HW. WTH?!?
@Ragle Gumm: you’re not crazy. Here’s a Pepsi..
Sundance,
You must have taught me well, because I mentioned this two years ago, that there was something up with DeSantis because he was the only governor really getting by with putting policies in place that were obviously rebellious to the Federal Government and being allowed to do it without so much as a word from the government or the main stream media. NO ONE fought him on that, not one person. It was way too quiet to not be obvious that not only was he being allowed to do it, it was being facilitated by the powers that be for a hidden agenda.
ANY Republican that the media doesn’t try to destroy is suspect. Same if they start a weak
attack, then throttle back. Pence in particular, but prior to that McCain ( before he ran for
President), and RINOS such as Johnny Isaakson, Mister Chamber of Commerce.
Congratulations, you finally get it. This multi pronged attack on We The People has been plain for all to see. It is so much worse than WE all understand. These people are not only destroying US, they are trading in OUR children, and have been. If we all understood what they are doing, they would be extinct in a week.
Political science aptitude is a thing. Thanks for a pattern recognition walk-through, Sundance.
DeSantis’ money is coming from bad characters! Globalists, RINO backers, etc.. If DeSantis walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then he’s probably a duck!
Ron DeSantis is another version of Jeb Bush but without the charisma.
That’s funny 😂😂
Please clap!
Excellent article! I shared this on Truth Social!
Theories, science, thesis, collectivists, experiments; all words and methods to prove or disprove ‘thought’, gone are the days of common sense.
Only two reference books are needed; The Bible – actually the 10 commandments is the most important part – and a dictionary to get the meaning of words in their proper language.
I’ll throw in the US Constitution/Bill of Rights when We have taught children the words of the Bible and definitions in other languages using cursive writing.
Civics comes from the understanding of God’s words and common sense. Nations are built and destroyed by what children learn by the age of 6; they hear the word of God or the devil by that age.
If RDS was controlled by the Big Club since 2018, how many others are out there? Brian Kemp of Georgia certainly fits the mold.
Amen. Georgia opened before damn near any state, and the media was remarkably silent
about that fact. In all other instances they’d have beeen screaming “Murderer!!!” from the
roof tops.
Also: since the dust has settled, not entirely sure that Kemp and Stacey Abrams aren’t,
basically, the same person in different forms. They both are pretty good at election fraud.
For starters.
LOL, Larry Hogan. We call him Lock Down Larry here in Maryland. He wouldn’t get my vote for shoveling crap at the zoo much less President.
What is amazing to me is how easy the current litmus test for any politician is: are you anti-Trump in any way–obvious, subtle, deceitful then you are a either a full throated Marxist, unapologetically, or you are running a con in order to aggregate power to aggregate wealth. I don’t offer this because I blindly support Trump like some mesmerized effing fool, contrary to narrative or the frantic disillusion of those who for whatever reason cannot handle the truth of the illusion of representative government. Nope–if you are “anti-Trump” you are more than anti-America first you actually are either actively or passively part of the entire money laundering grift. It continues to amaze me that some credentialed accomplished people I know still believe for example that the Ron DeSantis they see is who Ron DeSantis is, or that what he says has anything to do with belief, intent or purpose. Every time I look at him or anyone like him all I see is a 30 year old consultant working on the packaging and branding of someone who will make them rich. Once you see it, it cannot be unseen.
You aren’t nuts. There I said it
…and Marjorie Taylor Green is the exact formula they use for DeSantis. Funny how Green and DeSantis just breezed through their elections ?She is a deep state state plant. However, Jim Jordan is the biggest snake in the swamp. The only politician I trust is Devon Nunez and he’s gone.
Not nuts. Been my suspicion for a couple years. I expect the games to intensify. I like DeSantis, but always saw him as a more establishment Pol. Trust him with Reform? Nope.
DeSantis is one smelly rat.
I can’t begin to imagine the remote controlled buffoon he would be if he won the WH.
All I can say is God, help us if DeSantis pulls it off.
TRUMP 2016/2020/2024 MAGA 🇺🇸
RDS playbook, whoever is executing it, is proof that whatever razor it is that says to assume incompetent/stupid rather than malice is not at play in Western global politics. Prove me wrong.
“However, once you understand your own vulnerability to being manipulated, accept you need to CHANGE how you view things, THEN you won’t need someone else (like Sundance) to point it out to you, again.”
This.
To “almost” quote the late funk-master Mr. Rick James: “
CocaineEgo,, …it’s a hell of a drug.”It is unbelievable to me how “they” plan these things out — years in advance — and by doing so hope to slowly put us into a stupor of trust.
Also unbelievable was watching how the media was fully backing and supporting DeSmugness.
Every time Rondo signed a new bill, or appeared to fight against a perversion that the depraved around us celebrate, what did the media do? They told the story, they let DeShowboat tell the story in his own words (as if he were somehow really a man of conviction), and they showed how Ronald always had a large group of people standing behind him, as if backing the man himself.
How often does that happen with politicians?
Heck, they’ll report about something President Trump does and instead of letting him tell the story, some mouthpiece yammers over photos of the President, and speaks nothing but “misinformation,” — they lie.
The media, knowing full well that “conservatives” want certain hot topics confronted by a man of “character” who will “fight” for them, gave Rondo free reign to be their hero.
Little Ronnie is no hero, he is not a man of character, nor is he going to fight for anyone about anything. He is bought and paid for like a cheap hooker, except a hooker actually does a job for the money paid.
Big money made sure the media made DeSickening look like the GOPe presidential candidate — or “our” only choice — many months ago.
I think people are hoping so hard that the U.S. will halt its sprint to its eventual ruin that they cling to anyone and anything that gives them that hope. They were and are being played for emotional security.
They mine and exploit our hope on a regular basis. Good post Raven.
Yup, 2018 was when the Deep State started building the Trojan Horse around DeSantis so that people would take him “in” !
Was Ms. Lindsey in that picture?
The question is, how could ANY TRUE MAGA go for rds and against Donald J Trump?
We are learning how many truly insecure people there are in this world.
Disney Disney Disney. Yes Disney really stinks. That said, Disney and the Ron “fight” against Disney ropes them in. They RDS fan club actually believes Ron has no place for homos in his future admin. They are mistaken and the RDS camp is quite fine with that for those who want to believe it.
Uh WOW!! I have no other words……all any of us can do is pray without ceasing. Just pray. God Bless you Mr. Sundance, God bless you.
I always thought something about Charlie Crist’s 2022 run for governor as a Democrat was odd.
Maybe Crist was supposed to lose to DeSantis in a landside versus DeSantis’ squeaker victory against Andrew Gillum.
Two things I admire about Sundance and Dutchman…
John 3:19-21 “This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done by God.”
Sundance frequently reminds us to “live your best life”…
Jesus proclaims “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12
Thankful for all those who let His light shine through them! May we each be challenged to shine just a wee bit brighter…to whom be the glory forever an ever, Amen
You have a wonderful mind and so thankful you share it with us. Along this line with RDS winning his re-election to governor with such a large margin, which is unheard of in this election rigging environment, I have wondered if this was part of the operation as well. He seems to have a close relationship with the Dominion lawyer working on the defamation law suits as Mike Lindel has pointed out. Another curious data point because sure makes him look very electable.
I’ve been telling my wife that RDS is ‘Wood’ light for about 2 months now.
Remember ‘Wood’?
I KNOW you’re not nuts. This has been on going for many decades.
Makes me wonder if we’ve ever had a president elected by the peoples’ will the last couple centuries.
MAGA 👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
Follow the money, follow the money, follow the money. It’s hard to hide it. RDS being tied to the hip with the likes of Paul RINO et al was all anyone needed to know. I’m starting to agree with Colonel Macgregor’s assertion that the system is so corrupt that it has to collapse before we might see any positive change. I believe it will collapse under the immense bureaucratic weight just as the Soviet Union collapsed. The problem is we have millions and millions of illegals of military age flooding into the country. This could make Ukraine look like a Sunday picnic if there is a total collapse.
Why are you all arguing about the scientific method? So you are not concerned about all of the ugly implacations of DeSantis being controlled by the club, but are more interested in semantics.