Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart is the judge who authorized the fraudulent search warrant used by the DOJ and FBI in the Mar-a-Lago raid against President Trump in August of last year. Today, Judge Reinhart accepted the position of Special Counsel Jack Smith and puts restrictions on President Trump’s ability to defend himself.
Judge Reinhart has approved the motion filed by Special Counsel Jack Smith to restrict President Trump’s access to the materials the DOJ claims to use against him and block the ability of President Trump to state publicly his defense against the evidence. The star chamber of the DOJ Lawfare operation is continuing unabated.
(Via ABC NEWS) – A federal judge on Monday approved a protective order sought by special counsel Jack Smith to keep former President Donald Trump from disclosing sensitive information in his classified documents case.
Smith sought the order to ensure that neither Trump nor codefendant Walt Nauta, Trump’s presidential valet, disclose sensitive information obtained during the discovery process, where prosecutors will show the defense what evidence it has amassed during their investigation into Trump’s handling of classified documents since leaving office. (read more)
“The Discovery Materials, along with any information derived therefrom, shall not be disclosed to the public or the news media, or disseminated on any news or social media platform, without prior notice to and consent of the United States or approval of the Court,” Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart said in the order.
“Defendants shall only have access to Discovery Materials under the direct supervision of Defense Counsel or a member of Defense Counsel’s staff. Defendants shall not retain copies of Discovery Material,” the ruling said.
“The materials also include information pertaining to ongoing investigations, the disclosure of which could compromise those investigations and identify uncharged individuals,” their Friday filing said.
Furthermore, the protective order limits Trump’s access to the material, stating that he can only view the discovery materials under the direct supervision of his defense counsel or a member of the counsel’s staff. As demanded by the Special Counsel, Trump is not allowed to retain copies of the discovery material.
The order applies to both Trump and his co-defendant, Walt Nauta, and prohibits them from disseminating any evidence provided to their lawyers during the discovery process. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart emphasized that the discovery materials, along with any derived information, should not be made public or shared on news or social media platforms without prior consent from the United States or approval from the court.
The DOJ wants to limit public knowledge of the material evidence, not because it would harm national security – but rather because the nature of the evidence itself would highlight to the nation how fraudulent the targeting is. This is the guaranteed DOJ motive, that’s why everything is under seal and even the media will not talk about how they are gaining their leak knowledge. This is LAWFARE narrative engineering at its apex deployment. (more)
Hopefully everyone can see now why I created so much context for the Fourth Branch of Government. The DOJ is essentially arguing that some unknown administrative state has a superior position to the executive branch of government.
The US DOJ are affirming a belief in the omnipotent Fourth Branch of Government that Barack Obama created.
How does this judge get to be the “decider”? Is there no process to appeal this?
Perhaps someone with law experience (or a retired magistrate) can please clarify who this guy is and why he gets to make such a decision. Also, what is the process of the appeal? The presiding judge? Circuit court? SCOTUS? This ruling seems dubious and unconstitutional.
Unconstitutional you say? Define that please, I’m new to the topic.
The land is littered with mines and the operatives from foreign and mega-business interests. Your votes amuse them.
we are getting close to the timed moment of ” well enforce it if you can”
Retired Magistrate here: See response to Bill.
How is this judge not recused ?
Why? Yours is the easiest to answer I’ve seen in a while given the usurpations foisted upon this Hearland for decades, let alone since 2016. It’s called Tyranny Ellis. TYRANNY. It has but one remedy. Most will deny it because they have no Code and can cite no lineage to far better men than themselves beginning with the men of Lexington and Concord if they’re even familiar with those locations at all. Tyranny. And TINVOWOOT. Tyranny.
Retired Magistrate here: Under federal law, President Trump’s attorneys have 14 days to file objections to the Magistrate’s Order. The DOJ then has 14 days to respond to President Trump’s objections. Then the objections will be ruled on by the Presiding Judge.
A transcript of the proceedings has to be filed with the Objections.
Shipwreckedcrew (attorney defending January 6 defendants) claims that Trump’s attorneys did not object because they want to get on with the Discovery process. He claims that they can raise objections as they receive the documents.
Once again he has lousy attorneys.
May I ask, can either party then appeal this presiding judge’s ruling?
Effective to wasting everyone’s time while the nation burns.
NUTS!
@Marcia, thanks for that information!
So can President Trump’s counsel request an order towards the prosecution in regard to the inevitable press leaks that we all know comes from the prosecution. What is good for the goose. . . .
Retired Magistrate here: Yes, but they will have to specifically prove that the leaks came from the prosecution; which the prosecution will deny.
I don’t have any idea what President Trump’s attorneys strategy is; it may be that they want to fast track this case and get it to a higher court asap.
I personally think everyone is getting “all in a snit” over nothing.
Is this really such a big deal,..I say no.
PDJT can still, along with his surrogates, continue to make his case, in the Court of Public Opinion, repeating on a loop;
“Presidential records act”
“Clinton sock drawer case”
“Election interference”.
NOTHING in the order prevents that, and that argument is being heard, loud and clear.
Hence, it doesn’t MATTER what “the evidence” is.
The justification for this order, which is not all that unusual, is to “avoid tainting the jury pool” and that ship is already sailed.
Assuming this ever gets to a jury, which is doubtful, “good luck, jack” finding jurors who haven’t already heard of “The Presidential records act”.
I also think there is a lot of unwarranted criticism of PDJT’s lawyers, by people who have little understanding of the law.
This is LAWFARE, and the purpose of the prosecution is to “tarnish” PDJT, IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, NOT to prevail, legally.
Now that they have got their headlines, the goal of the prosecutors will be to drag the process out, as long as possible.
Hence, fighting “the little stuff” and thereby dragging it out further, suits the prosecution, not PDJT.
AND, PDJT is acting as his own “Chief council” he is not blithely “going along” with whatever his lawyers advise.
Calm down, and don’t allow yourself to be emotionally triggered.
Sheesh!
It matters very much if the evidence is contrived?
Example: One “nuclear weapons” documents is a letter from Obama mention NoKo’s nukes. Wonder why he put that in there?
A personal letter from the outgoing Prez to the new one would seem like a private document?
Another letter to Trump from Kim had the word “nuclear” in it.
It is no secret that NoKo has nukes?
I don’t actually believe the prosecutor has to prove attribution of leaks…ONLY that they have happened and that his presents an undue bias presented in the media that will corrupt future jury members.
remember this ruling from cannon is explicit….ZERO TOLERANCE for outside sharing of protected sealed evidence. period.
what the prosecutors can do, in the instance OF ANY LEAKS TO PRESS, is simply to show the protected material and show it matches up to the leaked material in the media. There is a reason that cannon ruled in this way….
now here is what is definitely going to be tested separate from deliberate leaking of actual documents.
I think there is a gray area here where SPEAKING broadly but with enough substance for the media to take it to the echo chamber might not violate the order. As we have already seen for instance, before this trial began, there have been multiple leaks of information related to what is now protected material. The defense has a strategic opportunity to test this order and do the same…BUT JUST VOICE…And use the same strategies of the prosecutor. I think this is where the defense team has to leave some of it’s option open, given that the DOJ can simple say: “we have initiated an investigation into alleged leaks from the prosecutors office” whereas the Defense team does not have a similar institutional power (or perceived power) to do the same. So the defense counsel has the develop its strategies on both offensive and defensive but also not to limit itself to the real probability (high) that it will need to fight this case in the media also.
just my own opinion
God Bless America
what I am getting at, is that if the defense can show that protected material has been leaked, there is a good legal reason that it should not be allowed as evidence in the court…the violation of the protected material made by the judge does not specific this…but it’s a solid argument to make.
NO MATTER IF ATTRIBUTION CAN BE MADE ABOUT LEAKS.
nudge nudge.
it’s war…it will be dirty…rules will be broken…there is a bigger moral outcome at stake here.
God Bless America
I’m the meantime, the DOJ, aka anonymous sources will leak cherry picked info (true or not) to the media at their beckoning call.
Anyone who actually BELIEVED media reports that the “leak” (a week BEFORE Smith was ready to announce his Fla. indictments) came from Smiths own office, ‘from prosecutors in his office’ is naive.
PDJT knows how to play “the leak game”, too.
Moreover, he has developed a strategy for BEATING “Lawfare” and has already won.
They already are?
They keep saying “classified documents” in their reporting.
The indictment says “documents with classified markings”.
Something that has been declassified, still has the classified markings on them!
The wording is meaningless…Except to smear Trump with something he didn’t do?
Thank you Marcia and Wethal!
Noting the 14 days to file objections to Reinhardt’s order (1.) and excerpting comments from 2 Treepers:
14 days to file objections to Magistrate’s orderTrump’s attorneys did not object because they want to get on with the Discovery process. He claims that they can raise objections as they receive the documents.Reagan appellate appointee tell me this can be appealed RIGHT now…he also states this had this or similar usurpation (lots of detail) occurred during trial it could also be appealed – then.”My questions/comments: Concerned about the first, 14-day deadline. Even without discovery why can’t Trump’s team object within the deadline based on his constitutional rights in general? Why wait to receive the documents before objecting? Plays right into Lawfare’s main interest being the court of public opinion. Who even knows when those documents would be received? As SD says, my suspicious cat is giving major side eye and I say again appeal now to Cannon, see how she rules and move on with discovery. If she rules in support, better to expose that now.
References:
“Rohry
June 19, 2023 7:56 pm
Reply to Marcia
Shipwreckedcrew (attorney defending January 6 defendants) claims that Trump’s attorneys did not object because they want to get on with the Discovery process. He claims that they can raise objections as they receive the documents.”
“bensonhurst52
June 19, 2023 8:03 pm
Reply to Bill
I had a Reagan appellate appointee tell me this can be appealed RIGHT now. I’d never betray the name, but several years ago he handled a case that was part of the national news cycles for almost two months. He’s still on the bench and is well respected by people who count for something. and demonstrate it. Beyond this he also states this had this or similar usurpation (lots of detail) occurred during trial it could also be appealed – then.”
it “would appear” the defense counsel did not object. (being careful to phrase this carefully, because we in fact do not know what defense counsel will do, as you pointed out).
I think there is a far greater threat in this case than most people are taking up.
let me give my theory, I call it dark arts 101, justice division, chapter 1.
1 thru 3 describes how the DOJ has captured the rules of the development of this case. They effectively hold all of the cards…they are both dealer and player. The court agrees with this house rule.
but lets examine what exactly does classified clearance mean…in terms of the classically held definition (broad), it simply means you are cleared. IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE ACCESS..that is an entirely different matter. Need to know is determined by…originator….principle..in this court case that power to provide need to know rests with the house…the prosecutor/doj…
so you might be saying…who cares…if they can’t show it to defense and President Trump some of this material, then it cannot be presented to the court as evidence.
AND THERE YOU HAVE IT.
the part many people are missing…me too.
this is one part about scandalizing a nothing burger in the attempt to harass and assassinate the character of President Trump….The media is trying it’s best to humiliate him and the other rino/uniparty repubs are also pilling on….But that is just ONE PART..
the other part is to STEAL THE EVIDENCE OF CRIMES COMMITTED BY A HOST OF CRIMINALS…And that has been accomplished already. The Raid on MAL!
this court case is about DOJ, holding those evidence and no one ever will see it again…gone…poof..black hole.
There is a far larger issue here than just intimidation …this is DOJ doing what it does best.
protecting its crimes.
God Bless America
Sundance mentioned a while ago that even the Judge is not allowed to see it.
Thanks regitiger! I agree and SD has posted numerous times that Lawfare actions are intended to mitigate their exposure of criminal activity. SD has also reinforced the importance of sunlight as a key intervention.
I also agree “it “would appear” the defense counsel did not object. (being careful to phrase this carefully, because we in fact do not know what defense counsel will do, as you pointed out).” As Marcia pointed out, defense has 14 days for this first opportunity to object.
Other opportunities to object come much later in the case (upon receipt of the documents, during trial). If sunlight is the best disinfectant, then every opportunity to object should be seized until successful or others complicit in this effort exposed (Is Judge Cannon, the presiding trial judge compromised as I understand she sent this motion to the Magistrate to handle??)
I also agree the DOJ holds all the cards: “but lets examine what exactly does classified clearance mean…in terms of the classically held definition (broad), it simply means you are cleared. IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE ACCESS..that is an entirely different matter. Need to know is determined by…originator….principle..in this court case that power to provide need to know rests with the house…the prosecutor/doj…”
There is already a strong pattern of Lawfare/DOJ/FBI/DNC disappearing documents and these would be added to the list. Again, early objection by defense could provide the needed sunlight on this stunt. Surrogates on the campaign trail will not address this issue.
Reference:
“Political Observer
June 20, 2023 1:42 am
Only for those who are interested in facts!
On 9/16/23, DOJ filed a motion for Protective Order (PO). This was an expected procedural step (after President Trump’s “not guilty” plea).President’s legal counsels didn’t oppose.The same day, Judge Cannon, who is assigned to preside over this case, referred PO to Judge Reinhart “for appropriate disposition”.On 9/19/23 Judge Reinhart granted unopposed motion for PO.”
He’s just a Magistrate. He won’t get away with it.
lulz
He looks just like the Twinkie!
Just another fat drunken slob from New York sitting on his ass in Florida.
And a twink.
It is common practice to keep a case with the original magistrate & judge in federal court. A new magistrate or judge would have to get up to speed on the facts and issues.
This may bode well for keeping Cannon on the case. If the DOJ wanted her to recuse herself because she is a Trump appointee, the first opportunity would have been when she appointed a special master.
Federal magistrates handle pre-trial matters for district court judges. Magistrates and bankruptcy judges are not Article III judges with lifetime tenure, but appointed for a set term. Reinhart is likely the magistrate who handles Cannon’s pre-trial matters.
As far as the original authorization of the MAL raid goes, there may have been some magistrate-shopping involved. The search was done on a Monday, so it’s possible he was one of the go-to magistrates to get the warrant signed over the weekend for a Monday raid, and they timed the search warrant request to increase the chances of getting him.
we are past giving them the benefit of the doubt. u called them out on what they did
Retired Magistrate here: Could be with regard to Magistrate shopping. However, as far as I know we do not know what was contained in the Affidavit in order to get the Warrant for a Monday pre dawn raid. Usually for a pre dawn raid there have to be exigent circumstances so I would imagine what was set forth in the Affidavit may have been fairly outrageous; otherwise why haven’t we seen the Affidavit?
When a Magistrate is shown an Affidavit you have no way of knowing if what is in the Affidavit is true or not; you are relying on the individual or agency who is requesting the Affidavit. So if the Affidavit contained information that led the Magistrate to believe that it was a national security issue, the Magistrate would approve the Affidavit.
more specifically, on that day or at any timely fashion has the DOJ produced a formal warrant and a list of documents and material taken?
That can be a basis to rule in favor of defense…perhaps not to get the entire case dismissed…but lets say the DOJ presented a warrant and list items but did not present them to the defendant/attorneys?
a good argument is that these materials not so listed not contained in the warrant as non permissible in this case.
(and I think this is the ab plan for DOJ…certainly there are some materials they do not want to get into discovery…period. So perhaps that was the plan all along…to steal them, refer to them as national defense material and use this court case to prevent any outside examination…see my post earlier on this theory)
God Bless America
I had a Reagan appellate appointee tell me this can be appealed RIGHT now. I’d never betray the name, but several years ago he handled a case that was part of the national news cycles for almost two months. He’s still on the bench and is well respected by people who count for something. and demonstrate it. Beyond this he also states this had this or similar usurpation (lots of detail) occurred during trial it could also be appealed – then. I just pray PDT has solid representation now as Trusty and I forget the name of the other one I understand are not licensed to practice in FL. No matter what I will vote for him in person or as a write in – or I will for the first time in over 42 years vote this trip for no one. The Founders warned this day would come. Pray also that the only remaining option is not the decision to take this country back by force. More and more this may be the only optoin. It disgusts me to no e3nd that some think it doesn’t rise to their “standards” or freely cast “tin hat” aspersions. Look around. Tell ME about remaining options at this very late point. I’d like to hear any.
It’s gonna be bloody when the scales of justice swing the other way.
Everyone has been hemorrhaging while the party works both sides of the room, trying to keep up the appearance justice is blind, and the scales have rule of law equally applied.
Short of a miracle from God, there are no other options – we need to realize that.
Why not a 3rd party with clearance determine documents requirements for remaining undisclosed?
Because that goes against Jack and Merrick’s star chamber plan.
If the documents were seen by anyone else besides the corrupt DOJ, that would reveal their treachery and false claims?
I try not to have hate in my heart, but God knows it sure is a trial not to.
i bet your god permits righteous anger.
I struggle with thar same thing every da6, Kim.
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For me, “hate” is “cold anger”. Same thing. It’s okay to have hate for injustice, deliberate cruelty, lying, corruption…
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+1 Kim.
Lawyer Robert Barnes in his conversation with The Duran today, 6/19/2023, explained at about minutes 22:00 – 27:00 the deep states reasons for prosecuting Trump. The first reason is, of course, to keep him from having a second term as president, but the second reason is philosophical. The goal is “to establish the legal precedent which is the national security state, deep state, has power over our secrets… the elected President of the United States cannot share the deep state’s secretes with anyone without its permission or else he goes to prison.” Barnes says that the whole idea “flips the constitutional order.” The national security state is not inferior to the executive, but rather is superior to the executive. The deep state can only keep its power if it has the ability to control secrets. What the deep state is trying to do is criminalize the exercise of executive power.
Nailed it!
Deep state is superior – that explains a lot and the one person that comes to mind is Bill Barr.
Barr the fat guy? p0s
Yes mr pie I call him debela guzica, first word, second word is a$$ in the Serbian language, which at times has many different meanings. You nailed it regarding Barrf.
My question is will the Supreme Corrupt Court uphold this new “constitutional order” with the deep state on top over the Executive Branch with some Unconstitutional legal mumbo jumbo to make Lawfare proud???? Roberts and Kavanaugh signing on with the leftists?? If so it’s all over and President is off to the DC gulag!!!! Think I’m joking???
go here and get back to me: thedocuments.info
I went there and thought I found Qanon alive and in person. JMO. To me Justice Roberts is more than willing to split the Constitution in half in deference to Lawfare’s illegal Unconstitutional machinations! JMO.
I went there… Mind boggling I don’t know what to say. I read all of Trumps first orders about fighting corruption right after he was elected and never heard or saw any action on any of it. Oh only if it was really all coming to pass! I can dream I guess. Way too much info and I hope is not all wishful thinking. I got to admit I noticed Joe Biden looking different at some point, I am a very spatial guy I see stuff hardly anybody else does. This site shows what I saw and but I never put 2+2 together. Totally bazar head spin hope it’s all true.
We will be told we have no standing – again. This is just another indication of how far we have come from the country our founding fathers gave us.
The Supreme Court abdicated their authority in the months after the 2020 election. Stop asking questions you already know the answer to.
Nullify the voice of the people. No more elections of any consequence.
Mark Levin claims the same…
Since the State designs and manages crises they already know the next steps coming. These monsters own both parties and are content operating “constitutionally.” In a loose way.
People, we are under the (temporary) control of dark matter, and it will run roughshod over us until God’s purposes with it are accomplished. Consider it a filtration process.
The landmines in our nation are detonating as planned. They intend Trump to be jailed and to destroy our MAGA options when we refuse to play along in the primaries. They’re counting on it. Election law will change as a result and the puppets will soon be our only choices.
I watched/listened to the The Duran this morning.
A lot of good information.
This is looking like a big boomerang 🪃 for
the Deep State.
People have to be blind not to see the
double standards.
Out of control Biden White House w/Robert Barnes (Live)
👆👆 Rumble….The Duran
So they’re goung to prosecute biden next then?
It’s all a show.. They can’t influence the blind masses with facts so they have to silence dissent. Just like they did with twitter and Covid. Same will it be with Trump and this case.
Last post I was getting dragged for the TW post saying ‘judge’… LOLz… But I digress..
The sooner everyone accepts the fact we are dealing with communists the sooner we can get to the nitty gritty of what that means.
Exactly! Communists hiding behind the donkey. Stealthy creeps they are
Communism for everyone but the age old rulers of the international banking system and their highly rewarded stooges.
It’s puzzling to me that a President of arguably the most powerful country in the world, and the leader of the opposition party to the present government, can be continually attacked and smeared without any pushback.
Seriously the same two bit judicial appointees “ handcuffing” Americas most popular politician, and by miles at every turn, yet crickets.
Yet Biden, Clinton etc wander around lying and scheming.
Blinken is in China, the Covid 19 source, and world destabilizer essentially Green lighting an invasion of Taiwan.
Thank you President Trump for opening my eyes.
Cheers!
The problem is the opposition party has very few willing to actually oppose what is going on, or act on the crimes committed by Biden.
It’s made worse by members of that opposition party actively helping with attacks and smears, and a media thoroughly willing to assist in any way possible.
There is no opposition party.
That was and will be his greatest purpose. In office and out, revealing the hideous nature of our once-beloved government. The worse they treat him the more his words will ring true.
I don’t accept this. And I am only instinctually and minimally academically aware of the egregious violation this is in regard to President Trump‘s constitutional rights. Surely, by God’s grace, better and powerful minds and voices will rise up against this. This is the final hill. My prayers will continue. God bless President Trump and God bless America.
there have been a lot of final hills, lately….
and getting finaller
So many hills in fact, that I feel quite weary if truth be told.
your only time is at the election transition.
wasting that moment is more years of submission.
Leaks are proven not to be punishable. Perhaps the damning information could find it’s way to the public sphere…
Question is, will it be the DOJ doing the leaking, with a finger pointing at Trump.
both.
” The DOJ is essentially arguing that some unknown administrative state has a superior position to the
executive branch of governmentUS Constitution.”Added context, but not to upstage SD.
Effectively the USA has fallen. Otherwise this crap would not be happening.
Again, we have not yet begun to fight, so it makes no sense to throw in the towel.
You simply fail to or choose to not acknowledge repeated history unfolding right before your eyes. Sure, different nation, different constitution and such, however, look at history and how nations fell.
As to yet beginning to fight, please. You make that statement as though a known plan is in the work, published to the masses and they are waiting the order.
Should it even happen, things will never be the same.
As to a victory otherwise, have you even stopped to consider how that victory has longevity?
Not throwing in any towel here. Not pretending anymore either.
hold the line.
at the election is the best time to transition power.
everyone is invested. everyone accepts the trickery or lies that get the person in power.
everyone can be mad at a steal
everyone can be local with their protest
these crowds can be made at each rally location (more rallies = more locations; simulatanous rallies = many more locations)
When DJT was elected in 2016 one had high hopes for a better future for the USA, we all saw, despite the man’s successes at making America prosperous.
But, in just 2.5 years the DS has destroyed it all to regain total control. And, we see everyday how they will go to whatever lengths to destroy good people.
Hold the line. Elections. Transition power.
Until that power transitions yet again.
TPTB only maintain their power as long as God allows.
Why do you suppose God is allowing the current situation before us all?
you couldnt of had a better build up to this.
the proof PDJT could make an economy strong, have no wars, and make china kneel
then see Covid used to steal from us, the election, and buy all of our future via interest rates
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all that had to be done to get the people on the fence.. so if a protest was ever local, theyd support it nonstop
took a personality like PDJT’s to not stop and keep showing more and more
Not fighting IS throwing in the towel.
If Trump is so guilty, what are they afraid of? Obviously they have no case.
Trump will expose the fraud and money laundering! Ukraine is where the money gets laundered! Then goes to the pols!
One in our Treeper family, Marcia, retired magistrate here, says that President Trump’s lawyers are able to appeal this to Judge Cannon.
Retired Magistrate here: Correct; President Trump’s attorneys have 14 days to file objections which will be ruled on by Judge Cannon, the Presiding Judge.
I have no confidence in his attorneys.
And WHAT, exactly is the objection?
The defendant, and his attorneys can examine the evidence that will be used by the prosecution, in the trial.
They can make notes, which the attorneys will keep. The Defendant can talk with his attorneys, ABOUT the evidence, and discuss legal strategies.
They just can’t talk to “the public” about THE EVIDENCE.
Ostensibly, the Prosecution will argue this is to prevent “jury pool being tainted”,..as Sundance says, its so the LACK of actual evidence will not be apperent to all, IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
SO WHAT? The Prosecution can only disguise this meritless case as having merit, for so long.
It’s a trap, and Trump should avoid it by steering clear of the documents. This becomes a gag order once he or his lawyers fall into the trap. Stay clear, and you can go on talking about what you suspect is the sum and substance of the case.
And in the meantime, appeal this to a higher court.
I don’t see this as being much of a “big deal” that either hurts PDJT’s defence, or helps Smiths case, “In the court of Public Opinion” which is the only one that matters.
PDJT, and his surrogates have already made their “closing arguments” (Presidential Records Act, Clinton Sock drawer case, Election interference) and the Jury has rendered its verdict.
The polls tell the tale; even though MAGA don’t do polls, polling shows, and will continue to show broad support for PDJT, with even 40+% of “Democrat” voters saying this is political hit job.
Placing these restrictions on PDJT and his legal team, at this point is meaningless.
That makes no sense. The ruling supports the deep state in keeping its secrets. If light dispels darkness/evil doings, let there be more light.
Furthermore, if the DOJ is going to leak to the public sphere (which they have already done and which we can be certain they will do again), Trump needs to be able to defend against their leaks also in the public sphere.
the victim brand. the fighting the same system others are brand
If this case is being presided over by another judge, why is this clown even involved?
That’s what I don’t understand.
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Magistrates are helper judges. They are hired rather than appointed judges who take care of a lot of routine pretrial issues. In many cases it is a help for litigants, rather than having to wait until the presiding judge has time on his or her docket to hear a matter.
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Retired Magistrate here: That is correct. Federal Magistrate Judges can hear a variety of issues in pre trial matters in both civil and criminal cases. In fact, if both parties agree, a Federal Magistrate Judge or a State Magistrate has the authority to hear a civil jury trial or a bench trial. The problem with that is, if at the last minute one of the parties backs out, then the matter goes back to the judge.
The Trump Team should disclose all of it in any case. Force the executive and judiciary to jail him. Might as well kick this thing off.
I would prefer that President Trump NOT DO THAT…not right now. When he is reelected, I am fine with this.
and why? because there is a very good chance if he does publish this material they WILL put him in prison…under it.
be clear about this.
as much as I want DOJ and its’ night police, FBI to be exposed, now is not the time for that to happen. We get President Trump back in office and he is off limits to prosecution. He can take HIS COPIES (I am certain he made copies), and he can declassify (AGAIN< WITH A LETTER SIGNED AND PUBLISHED ON TRUTH AND TWITTER FOR EXAMPLE), and then open the flood gates and watch the suicides happens.
this is the best way…it’s not perfect…and it does not satisfy my own selfish reasons to slaughter these diseased animals.
but is looks to be the best way to do and still have a good president in office to do all of the other important things that this nation needs…but probably does not deserve. The Dark Knight should not fall on his own sword and make himself a martyr…in the bigger picture…this must wait.
Why did Judge Cannon recuse herself? Why didn’t this magistrate recuse himself since he had prior involvement with the shady warrant on MAL?
It is common practice to keep a case with the original magistrate & judge in federal court. A new magistrate or judge would have to get up to speed on the facts and issues.
…because they can? They got implanted in all levels while we debated abortion.
Judge Cannon recused herself?
Retired Magistrate here: She did not recuse herself. The Federal Judge Magistrate relied on the information set forth in the Affidavit presented to him (which we don’t know what was in the Affidavit) to issue the Warrant. The Magistrate in this case will hear pre trial matters. The parties can file objections to his orders if they chose to do so. The presiding judge will preside over the final hearing.
Thank you Marcia. Cheers from another corrupt, evil country, Canada. Praying for better outcomes in both. Alberta had a great start the Premier Danielle Smith apologized to the unvaccinated of her Province. Now, the others should follow, when donkey’s fly will it happen in Ontario. I am sorry I digress. Thank you again.
Thank you for clarifying.
Cannon did not recuse herself! as with the arraignment magistrate, cannon can select other magistrates to assist with other matters before the trial begins. And this is exactly what happened with reinhart..
now, as far as the exact process and how this works (does a superior court direct the selection of magistrates in the same way that it selected cannon), I really do not have enough experience to comment. I will leave that to others who have experience in how the sausage in made inside the court system in Florida.
I only make these comments because you first sentence appears to suggest that cannon has recused. That is not the case. Reinhart ruled on a PRE-TRIAL MOTION WHICH BOTH PARTIES AGREED TO. This is like simply having the magistrate make sure the motion is filed properly, all parties are informed and any disagreements are settled. And then the judge properly records this motion and then sets out to do the things to make sure this particular motion so ordered is enforced. In this case, that would be inspecting that all of the defense attorneys’ have the proper discovery materials that are classified, clearly marked and in properly secured containers at a specific location and not other copies other than notes.
so in this case, the magistrate reinhart is taking a significant amount of workload off the back of cannon so that she can focus in what he will be doing during the course of this trial: managing every aspect of it…that also includes working with other magistrates to see that this trial is handled fairly, quickly, and with no errors along the way…
think if it this way: this case involves at least 60 hours of “work” in each 24 hour clock. There is no way a single judge can perform that…so it requires a team, so to speak. Ultimately, cannon will review each and all of these motions and how they are ruled by these magistrates. She has the power and the authority at ANY TIME to address problems with them and also to respond to any motions regarding them.
give you an example and something to expect: lets say the prosecutor decides in two weeks or two months to inject new evidence, that has not been admitted under the current motion. The defense can then motion for cannon to not allow it, since it has not been properly shared if it can be shown the prosecutor had withheld this evidence and is attempting to stymy the court and the defense with 100 gallons a second through a water hose. So in certain instances, Judge Cannon may not call for another magistrate to address those kinds of issues and may simply rule herself on them…in the interest of a speedy trial but also in the interests of due process rights of the plaintiff.
the key is that both prosecutor and defense agreed to these protective orders. But ONLY based on what the prosecutor has shared with the defense thus far. I expect the prosecutor will attempt to inject more evidence later. I also expect the defense to motion, to disallow that, or to delay the trial while they have more time to prepare with the new evidence.
also another example: lets say, the defense motions to Judge Cannon this – WE have hired an independent classified and national defense and presidential records act subject matter specialist. We would like this person to have complete access to all the evidence, marked or unmarked, closely held or not. It would be hard for me to imagine the defense team will attempt to train itself on these important legal examinations and make the proper defense…so this also will likely come up and either Cannon will rule directly on it, or refer it to another magistrate.
God Bless America
Ask not whose rights “they” are willing to violate.
They are willing to violate any individual’s rights; each of us ……and everyone of us …..are having OUR rights violated.
This is violence to the natural individual and collective rights of man.
This is the WEF saying to everyone that they will from henceforth be serfs and like it or else.
Yeah, they’ve said a lot lately. Most of it has been impotent demands that blow up in their faces.
“Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart is the judge who authorized the fraudulent search warrant”
Much of the media are refusing to even name this clown, and those that do, never report that he signed the warrant.
As far as the original authorization of the MAL raid goes, there may have been some magistrate-shopping involved. The search was done on a Monday, so it’s possible he was one of the go-to magistrates to get the warrant signed over the weekend for a Monday raid, and they timed the search warrant request to increase the chances of getting him.
IIRC, Trump’s lawyers have yet to challenge the use of the material scooped up in the raid. The vast majority is likely irrelevant (wasn’t there a cocktail napkin in there, along with passports and other personal items?), so it comes down to what the DOJ is going to use at trial. Trump’s lawyers may also ask for grand jury transcripts of witnesses as possible Brady material. They may also challenge the admission of any evidence given in testimony by Trump’s lawyers who were required to testify about attorney-client conversations.
There will be a lot of pre-trial motions, and Trump’s lawyers will no doubt move to dismiss the indictment because of the DOJ’s distortion of federal law (which Sundance has done an excellent job of outlining in past posts), and a lot of motions to exclude evidence because of the scope of the search warrant, violation of attorney-client privilege, etc.
It is very early days, and this whole witch hunt was designed to derail Trump’s campaign, and the public perception is indeed that this is meant as election interference.
I hope potus Trump “doodled” on that napkin and they go bat s### crazy thinking it’s a secret code!!
Maybe Trump scribbled “covfefe” on that napkin. They can go bat s### crazy all over again!!
Thanks for the chuckle, greatly appreciated.
has anyone seen the warrant? and the narrow scope nomenclature, specifics? a list of materials contained in the warrant to search…the specific buildings and storage areas?
Serious question. I do not know the answer. Maybe I missed it, but what I am reading is that this warrant has never been fully disclosed to President Trump?
second issue of concern: are not warrants open for public?
God Bless America
President Trump will speak out with the ugly truth.
Screw these Crap Weasels
We are a laughing stock of a country. Everything about our justice system reeks of corruption.
Where is Judge Cannon, I thought she was assigned to the case and not this biased not really a Judge.
Retired Magistrate here: See my above prior comments about Judge Cannon and the Federal Judge Magistrate.
If Trumps defense permits this to stand he has no chance but jury nullification. He is going to jail. What were John Brown’s last words?
Sundance- if Lawfare ‘s motive is so transparently unconstitutional then why haven’t we seen President Trump’s lawyers immediately fighting this / appealing to judge Cannon? Seems like this would be a no-brainer and easily thrown out. Seems like this run counter to her get security clearances order – which of course was rejected by the DS.
DOJ shows PDJT their case is bogus in discovery, and make a ruling that he cant tell anyone that…
fck them. if we ever get back in… go for them with new mercy. bend law like them and worse
^no mercy
Why does this magistrabator judge the power of speech and over process and the power of the the leading contender for becoming the President of Our Country?
its a coup.
Covid was an insurance policy. so was harrasing him with the Sessions Handoff, the Mueller harassament, and the Barr clean up with Kevin Klinesmith editing an email to make Page a spy…..
A Coup with the assistance of the “whole of government”.
If one Member is convicted, then all of Them are guilty.
That’s why none of them speak and why silence is golden……
The problem is we don’t have an opposition party.
They’ve been getting away with it for years because McConnell, Ryan, Boner, and now McCarthy have allowed it with only token complaints.
If we don’t form a new party it is going to continue until they silence and steal every penny from every last one of us.
why does one need a party?
simply getting the name on a ballot?
Actually, no.
Do a search on “political parties, structure and function.”
Getting a name on the ballot is only one part of the parties function.
We are IN THE PROCESS of circumventing the roadblocks put in place, to PREVENT us forming a party.
WE, MAGA are doing that by EXPOSING the RINOS, and siezing power from them, at the State level, which is where the real political power is excercised.
Just as Federalism and the Constitution put most of the power at the State and local level, the political parties formed and function in recognition of that.
Reread Sundances article on “the 4th branch if Government”; he states THE KEY is first getting control of ELECTIONS, which is a STATE matter they are TRYING to usurp to the Federal Govt. as with so much else.
And, in order to gain control over State (actually, County) run elections, we need to gain control over the R party, at the County and State level, IN ORDER TO establish election integrity.
Do that, and the Grahams, McConnells and McCarthy’s are voted out, and more importantly State Governors, with a SLATE of State legislature, SoS, AG’s like KL had assembled for 2022, are elected and can excercise extreme federalism to sharply curtail the Fed. govt buerocracy.
IMHO, this is the coarse we are on, and the outcome is inevitable (WE win).
You know what’s coming next is a Hitler order that all communication between “the defendants” and their counsel must be recorded and reviewed by Herr Magistrate, who shall decide if it should be divulged to Herr Smith so he may properly plant the appropriate evidence in the record.
Communism at its finest.
And SCOTUS is like…https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.U5pXoKc4BRqLx_HHNKWnOgHaEj%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=8360e519f15018a15866f774505122c72e4348de262961b9f4343dd5d6f565c9&ipo=images
IIRC, one of Smith’s associates was caught tapping defense counsel’s phones in a past case, so I expect Trump’s lawyers are taking steps. I knew one lawyer (civil litigation, actually) who regularly had his offices swept for bugs when he had a big case.
Pathetic that’s where we’re at.
That lawyer should have been disbarred and their new vocation including the words “Do you want fries with that?”
Wonder what the deep State will say when millions of CCP soldiers inhabit America and the deep State is found to be expendable.
Actually, if you KNOW you are being listened to,…that can be VERY useful!
Don’t REMOVE the bug,….USE it to feed the other side false info on your tactics/strategy, it can be VERY useful, and a lot of fun, too.
True. President Trump could say things like, “I hear Cabal Member Smith only has one ball and wears his wife’s thongs.” 🤣
I could swear that government offices were closed today. No?
Yes. But judicial staff work over weekends and holidays if they think it necessary. And orders are uploaded to PACER, the federal electronic filing system, which is available 24/7.
Satan never sleeps nor takes a day off….
Amen Amin!!
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Meanwhile…. Back at the White House…
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Biden sitting outside with Lisa Monaco, second in charge of the DOJ, probably working on future Plots and Schemes against Republicans.
Or she is trying to tie Joe’s shoe.
Come on now, you know they’re Velcro. 🤣
Of course there’s no mics in those bushes or a fly drone mic…yeah, it’s safe outside
Exactly what I was thinking
Attention passengers. This is your Captain speaking. This has only been a simulation. You have not really been transported to Germany sometime in the mid to late 1930’s.
I’m sorry. The flight engineer just informed me this is the real thing. He said something about a Biden directive and a magistrate time vortex and a Jack Smith worm hole. He has also informed me that we are now out of fuel.
…Judge Cannon might have something different to say…
Is a magistrate to a regular judge like a nurse is to a regular doctor ???
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More like an assisting physician to the primary surgeon.
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This is orchestrated campaign interference. The legal side means nothing to these actors.
So what does the DOJ have on him? Even if he’s an ideologue he has to know he’s wrong, portraying a poor picture for the DOJ, and if there’s dirt on him, it’s going to come out.
Has anyone started digging and unearthing his secrets? He needs to be exposed.
The whole thing is sickening.
..the article is erroneous….’ A federal judge’…. no, he’s a Magistrate…
Appeal????
Yes, an appeal to Cannon, and the losing party most likely to the Eleventh Circuit, if it will take it. Appellate courts are very hesitant to take appeals before the case is concluded in the district court, especially in criminal cases. Of course, this is a very unusual case.
So, are Trump’s lawyers going to appeal this ruling?
If they don’t, it’s malpractice.
he has horrible lawyers. I swear they are all democrats and out to bet him.
I asked the question before, what do we do when they throw Trump in jail?
Because they are going too!
They are certainly trying their damnedest. By hook and crook – mostly crook.
So the deep state/DOJ can submit their cherry picked accusations and narrative to the public via the indictment but the defendant has to shut up and can barely see the discovery information. How much information do you think they will withhold or destroy.
Think about what you just said, it means there is no constitution or rule of law. Sadly there has been non for far longer than many care to admit.
Here’s the only way I can understand the events of the last 8 years:
-There is an international criminal organization dealing in drugs, weapons, human trafficking, and pedophilia.
-They gained influence with powerful Democrats like the Clintons and Obama.
-Through bribery, extortion, infiltration, or whatever, this criminal organization took over the US Government, especially it’s law enforcement agencies.
-Trump came along, smart enough to understand what they were doing. He posed an existential threat to their operations, and was in a position to throw them in prison for the rest of their lives.
-This led to the wars against Trump. This criminal organization had to obstruct or stop Trump at all costs.
-This isn’t about politics. This is about crime.
Does this sound about right?
Close, bit you left out one KEY element; it is not “powerful Democrats like the Clintons and Obamas” it is both them and McConnells and McCarthy’s, and they aren’t really “powerful” they are all just actors, reading their lines.
But, othervthan that,…pretty close.
Constitutionally speaking, shouldn’t the only “Authorized Person” with authority to disclose notes and records related to contents of materials be Trump – as President?… and as a defendant?
precisely.
It sounds as if they’re trying to lure PDJT into an obstruction trap – just like they threatened with Russiagate. He talks about it, they get their obstruction arrest (regardless if the underlying case falls apart).
it must be their new Constitution they are trying to implement. where the National Security Department runs everything.
The President has full executive authority under the Constitution.
Everyone involved perpetuating this farce should be fired.
So I guess DOJ successfully managed to convince magistrate “Lady of the Lake, by Devine providence, gave them complete superseding power over executive office of President.”
Fired is being kind. Rope is a better choice, or a metak or plural.
That power is embodied in the first three words of the Constitution.
What happened to the original, female ,judge who was assigned this case? Can’t remember her name.
She still is, but this magistrate handles pre-trial matters for her.
Judge Cannon, she is the presiding judge. This clown is nothing but her gopher.
Oh boy. That picture 100% validates Sundances repeated assertions about Monaco. She’s the poisonous b*tch running much (most? all?) of the White House’s DOJ-led attacks against President Trump .
The Kock bros. can waste their $ if they want, it won’t do any good.
They should ask Robson how well spending $20 million of his own, and $10 million of big donors, worked out in the az primary.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/06/19/did-trump-just-admit-to-obstruction-on-national-television-n559140
Oh my. Trump must be the Client from Hell for a criminal lawyer. The first thing a criminal lawyer says to a client is “STFU and let me do the talking.”
All of this is could be admissible – no doubt he got his Miranda rights when he was arraigned. Of course, one would have to look at the whole tape. Trump used to have the practice of having his own cameraman there, which is how he exposed Lesley Stahl’s deceptive editing of his interview.
Trump should not be “defending himself” in the media. His lawyers should be doing that, and yes, I know how difficult it is for him to find lawyers nowadays.
I expect this was taped before today’s order, and the order did not apply to Fox.
Take this bs from the source – Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey.
As Jonathan Turley tweeted tonight: “Bret Baier conducted an extraordinary interview with Donald Trump who discussed the criminal allegations in detail.
Digesting the extraordinary interview with Trump, the most significant legal element is the stating of his defense to the audiotape. Trump will argue that there was never a document with the Iranian attack plan and that he was referring to material referencing the plan…”
Here’s what CNN said on June 9, 2023:
“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this,” Trump says at one point, according to the transcript. “This was done by the military and given to me.”
Trump was complaining in the meeting about Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley. The meeting occurred shortly after The New Yorker published a story by Susan Glasser detailing how, in the final days of Trump’s presidency, Milley instructed the Joint Chiefs to ensure Trump issued no illegal orders and that he be informed if there was any concern.
“Well, with Milley – uh, let me see that, I’ll show you an example. He said that I wanted to attack Iran. Isn’t that amazing? I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him,” Trump says, according to the transcript. “They presented me this – this is off the record, but – they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him. We looked at some. This was him. This wasn’t done by me, this was him.”
Trump continues: “All sorts of stuff – pages long, look. Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.” https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/trump-tape-didnt-declassify-secret-information/index.html
And here’s the New Yorker article CNN was referring to in its article: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/youre-gonna-have-a-f@#cking-war-mark-milleys-fight-to-stop-trump-from-striking-iran
Trump saying it was highly confidential and secret was most likely referring to the DOJ/FBI/NARA claiming the newspaper and other media articles outlining this “plan” that Trump was discussing were classified documents taken by Trump.
If the DOJ/FBI or Defense Dept. has any original so-called such document(s), let them produce it(them) or dismiss the case.
After all, if there was a document and it was leaked to the fake media, it can hardly be deemed highly confidential and secret now.
You have to spell out the bad word in The New Yorker link to access it.
Bullshirt.
Just more propoganda.
They said the same, all thru russiagate, impeachments 1&2, etc.
“Trump should shut up”
“Trumps his own worst enemy”
“Trump shouldn’t publically insult judges.”
“Trump shouldn’t insult Kim” lol.
All non-classified discovery produced by the
United States to the Defendants in preparation for, or in connection with, any stage of this case
(collectively, “the Discovery Materials”) are subject to this protective order (“the Order”) [my emphasis]
How likely is it that any “Discovery Materials” even exist yet?
The globalists have figured out how to game which judges will hear key cases. In case you haven’t noticed.
It’s all a big game to them because they stand unopposed. America has been choked out from it’s very own apathy. Words have meaning but stop at that. If you want real change you’d better get off your ass and make it.
These very same soulless sacks of meat would howl in hypocritical outrage if such was being done to them.
The closer we get to the election, the more dangerous this is going to become. They are going to stop at nothing.
Would any one in America trade, send senile Joe for President Putin? As a Canadian I would gladly take P. Putin, not Joe.