I’m not sure what is going on at the Twitter with Elon Musk, but apparently either his team is misleading their CEO, or Musk is just shooting from the hip.
In a reply to Matt Taibbi’s report about Substack content being blocked by Twitter and Taibbi’s decision to exit the Musk platform, the Twitter CEO fired back, calling Taibbi a liar.
(Source)
Twitter’s own internal checkers put a community note, citing the claims by Taibbi were essentially correct. Then, Substack CEO Chris Best weighed in on the issue, claiming the assertions by Elon Musk were false and the weird claim about Taibbi being an employee of Substack is completely without merit.
Mediaite – […] Forbes reported Saturday that Best and other figures at Substack are being individually punished on Twitter now, too.
“To top it all off, it appears the Substack crew is being punished on Twitter in other ways. If you try to search co-founder Chris Best on Twitter, his profile doesn’t show up,” writes Matt Novak.
Musk’s claim that Taibbi is a paid employee was an obvious implication that he was shilling for his bosses rather than reporting honestly. An ironic line of attack, considering it’s the same charge leveled at Taibbi and the other Twitter Files journalists by Democrats during a House hearing. (read more)
It’s all weird…. which, I might add, is not unusual for events that take place in/around the intelligence apparatus of the U.S. government.
“Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop”… Just sayin’…
I think there are Democrat insiders on Twitter staff who are throttling Taibbi’s posts and those of other Substack writers.
BECAUSE TAIBBI HAS REVEALED THE DEMOCRAP GOVERNMENT SECRETS.
You actually think the evil in the swamp is from DEMOCRATS?
That is SO “old school” to think it comes from Democrats, absolves Republicans.
Try Globalist Conmunist Uniparty WEF scum, perhaps?
Good start Dutch, but you forgot CCP, and Russia! 😉
Spot on.
Musk gave Taibbi the scoop of a lifetime – handed it to him on a silver platter – and Taibbi is showing that he has no gratitude or decency, at all.
Personally, I never liked Taibbi. He’s a left-wing moron who holds some of the stupidest views on Earth. He showed himself to be a real, true left-winger, here, in going after Musk when he OWES musk.
And Musk and Twitter don’t owe Substack anything. This is business.
Truly. And Chris Best, the Substack CEO really screwed up.
So you want to launch an extension of your services in a way that heavily depends upon the assets and operations of another company and you expect to exploit it for your financial gain? For free? And in a manner that’s overtly unbargained for and arguably parasitic?
That is so breathtakingly stupid. I can’t tell where the hubris ends and naiveté begins. Carlo Cipolla’s theory is proved again: education and intelligence do not correlate to stupidity.
Mr. Dude CEO shoulda picked up that phone and built a bridge between the companies in a mutual and fit for purpose way.
I love my Substack subscriptions. I still don’t use Twitter, though I continue to admire Musk and remain deeply grateful for what he has accomplished for American society, our economy and the incredible sums he pays annually in taxes for himself and the matching taxes his companies pay with the thousands of payrolls every month Musk makes possible.
Chris Best plotted for his corporation to exploit Twitter for commercial gain without consideration shown to Twitter for the exploitation of Twitter resources. That consideration between the companies was and is owed.
Best has out-bested the recent Bud Light marketing fiasco by at least an order of magnitude.
This ain’t about “poor old Elon.” This is about “poor old Substack” being thrust into harm’s way by fiat of executive hubris in a most capricious manner.
Only a fool would roll out an important corporate product that was strategically dependent upon assets of another corporation beyond their control, and not take steps to formally consolidate and secure the requisite consensus, agreements and other consideration that would ensure the success of the new corporate product rollout.
Yet that appears to be exactly what the Substack CEO did.
Musk did his job. Chris Best half-assed the fundamentals and made a huge public mess of it. The execs can fix this if they want. There should be common ground and other schema where a novel and mutually agreeable solution can be invented.
It’s just business. Best best be fixin’ a great big platter of crow for dinner.
You might want to retract that statement. For the last several years Elon Musk has paid very very little in taxes.
Musk just paid more taxes than anybody in the history of mankind last year.
How do we know this?
Public record, dude.
Maths is hard.
Well, the Looney Left has arrived…Lemme ask you a question; why are Lefties so miserable?
Did he break any laws when he “paid very little in taxes”? Or, is it that he earns enough to be able to afford a cadre of tax experts to ensure that he complies with the letter of the insanely complex tax laws?
Jealous? Stop whining and do something about it…Do better, afford your own cadre of tax experts.
Yep, Johnny is another twit that cannot discern the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion.
what has paying taxes got to do with anything?
Doing so does feed the beast…
And what you’ll *get* in return is not nice to say using the single word I believe is most fitting…
Starts with an f.
its just the argument to bash the rich
That’s false information.
Johnny, read an article before you spout off. Musk paid more than anyone ever last year. Jesus
i’m glad you understand what’s going on you made it a simple read for me.
I don’t think the Substack Notes service depends on Twitter any more than Twitter depends on MSM media to post and push the narrative there. The CEO is trying to exploit a situation to his company’s benefit by “selling” some sort of noble cause. So how is that any different than Musk buying Twitter to “free censorship” while not fully doing so, or his pump and dump of doge coins and what-not?
Substack is going to succeed regardless because it’s the right product at the right time.
In the end, all of this is speculation by folks (yes, like me) that read a lot of stories, all slanted in known or unknown ways, that give us an impression of reality. And I’d bet almost nobody here has read even 5% as much about Best as what they’ve read about Musk, who is likely without question one of the best marketers in the history of the world, save maybe Barnum of Barnum and Bailey circus.
Maybe Best is not so great at some things, awesome at others. Maybe he’ll get better. Maybe he’ll implode. Maybe both. Have you forgotten Steve Jobs rise, fall, and triumphant return at Apple? Best has executed fabulously for the last 2-3 yrs. Maybe this is a toe stub, maybe it’s an amputation. But as you and I sit behind the keyboard speculating, he’s out there risking everything. So who’s really the leader?
Let ’em duke it out. But as Sundance says over and over, keep your eyes on the big picture and see it as it is. Continue to look at multiple points of view. But you’d be wise to continue to be open about new information, context it arises in, and conflicts of interests (including your own, if any). I could be 100% wrong. Not likely after decades of trust but verify thinking and interpreting. But I’m likely wrong about some of it or maybe big chunks. And I’ll be looking for data and facts (or hints of where to find them in posts like those above) every time I read about things. Are you doing the same? I hope so, because you’ll make all of us wiser if you do.
Remember you’re talking about Jack’s magic coffee shop here. It doesn’t matter that Musk owns it now or not. Twitter rolled out it’s product that was and is strategically dependent upon assets of another corporation. The corporation of the Security State. I can’t see the security state just saying oh,you own it now,we’ll just walk away.
But you trust Musk, who is involved with Neuralink, and has a history of close ties to the US government. Think about it.
While you may never have liked Taibbi’s political views, that doesn’t say that he wasn’t an honest journalist.
Where did I say anything about trusting Musk? I only addressed Musk as the owner of Twitter and pointed out that Musk is the one who did the reporting on the Twitter files, really (though he had them ghost-written, as it were). Musk released the files of his own accord.
Taibbi spews left-wing crap. He has disseminated more than his share of asinine ideas about pretty much everything. He might be honest – though I don’t think any left-wingers are honest, they really can’t be and remain leftists – but he’s a moron. He did okay with the Twitter files (so far as I can tell, though I have no idea what he got to look at) but that was spoon fed to him. He just lucked into that.
You clearly haven’t read any of Taibbi’s many articles on Russiagate or how the corporate press has destroyed its credibility via TDS. The radical left hates Taibbi with a passion for his defenestration of their press organs. Taibbi and Greenwald are loathed on the left.
You have strange bedfellows.
Well said Lawrence. My two favorite writers
I thought Taibbi did a terrible job of exposing tweets and connecting the dots. Any moron could do what he did…post a series of tweets and write some aimless sentence between that didn’t enlighten anything…and he called it journalism. Seriously, it was a total bust.
I don’t think I have ever met or known an “honest” leftest.
Because to be a leftist…you must lie, deceive and mislead to get what you want, and you do it without conscience. And, you promote and push wokeism….and most have no need for God! Being leftist is being anti everything that is good and right. Sorry….as we are being shown by the so called leftist that run this country right now…there is no reaching across the isle and working together…you can not agree with evil, work with evil or come to terms with evil. So, we must come up with a way to rid us of this evil…specifically that in the swamp…the hell hole of America where evil lives. Only one place worse I can think of….in America that is…San Francisco….okay maybe LA, or maybe Chicago…gee, I guess now that I think about it there are a few places in this country that have gone to hell thanks to the evil of these beings.
This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.’
–Hamlet, Act 1, scene 3
Leftists begin by lying to themselves. They lie about such fundamental things as their gender. So, the corollary to the above is equally true, when you lie to yourself regularly, it holds you can’t help but lie to others.
How can people at war with reality ever be considered honest? They may not be lying in a particular instance, but that doesn’t make them honest.
First you must define ‘leftist. Is Taibbi a ‘leftist’, progressive or liberal? Is he a 1970’s type classic liberal, or a 2023 progressive? We are using terms that have no legitimate definition, other than our own perception, and yet indicating that we don’t find them ‘honest’.
You cannot be a lefty and be honest.
That’s closed minded
He’s worked for Rolling Stone forever – that’s like being an honest fentanyl dealer
Because you do not believe in people’s opinions does not make them dishonest.
People’s opinions can, indeed, make them dishonest if they are presenting themselves as a journalist, which by definition, means recording and reporting the facts, regardless g their opinions. Uninvestigated, biased opinions are not acceptable for journalist, theologians, doctors, judges, attorneys, etc. When you present yourself as the orator of truth, that better be what comes out of your mouth!
I saw some video of a much younger Musk talking about how a smartphone is actually a digital extension of human personality and right now the connection between them is (his words), “…very, very slow… .” It was pretty obvious that he’s been thinking about how to speed up that connection for a long time. Transhumanism is not science-fiction, it becomes more factual by the hour.
The link below leads to a three-hour documentary about the transhumanist movement. Advocates of transhumanism who did speak on the record in the doc are absolutely delusional and dead-serious about what they believe. The crispR gene-editing tool is all they needed to really get busy. One guy says, on-camera, “The idea of genetically fabricating a chihuahua with wings doesn’t bother me.”
I’m viewing this documentary in small doses. I put nothing past what these godless monsters are up to: https://rumble.com/v26rovc-tom-horn-transhumanism-documentary-inhuman-the-next-and-final-phase-of-man-.html
There is a scientific theory that’s gaining more and more traction, that the sun micronovas every 12,000 years or so, and that we are basically on the cusp of another one, to be preceded by about a decade or so of no electrical power globally. When current things like transhumanism and the way our society is going, get too much for me, strangely a micronova makes me feel somewhat better.
“…strangely a micronova makes me feel somewhat better.”
Just wait, that feeling will dissipate rapidly should it happen.
transgender b.s. is part of a high finance global move to remove the existence of biological women from law and language–leading to the transhuman: an objective entity manufactured to specification by global bio-tech. Money & political power drive the transgender\transhuman train. Here’s a woman who has done the research on the people and money behind what’s happening. She nails it:
Qanon is over to left sweetie.
We may be godless, but at least it’s an ethos based on reality.
I was just about to share the same info! I shared that article about Musk’s ownership of Neurolink the 1st time to the social site I signed-up on & subsequeent articles from other Animal sites.
He was just awful at Rolling Stone. He like Maher, Stewart et al……are just liberals packed differently today.
He won a national magazine award at rolling stone – isn’t that the highest award a journalist can get besides a Pulitzer?
100% off the mark.
I’m as conservative as anyone on this site. And Taibbi’s politics make me grind my teeth. But the investigative reporter side of him is as honest and true as any in my lifetime, including the myths like Woodward and Bernstein (who actually were doing then what MSM reporters are doing now, telling the deep state’s side of the story).
In 2008, he broke the story, named names, and provided facts that could have lead to prosecution of government and Fed leaders, plus many of the biggest Wall Street bankers. For that reason alone, I have and will support him. But he’s also taken what was offered with Twitter and turned in reports closer to TCH than any “left-wing moron” output you seem to expect.
As Sundance is so fond of saying, see it like it is (warts and all), not like you wish it were. He is not the shill you are looking for.
But his claims in this case are NOT reporting, but an ax to grind. Therefore, his leftist lunacy is a reasonable filter to discredit his claims, right out of the gate.
If you can refute Taibbi let’s see it. Source your claims and provide evidence. Otherwise you’re just yapping opinion.
Great, cogent reply! Kudos!
Musk is a rent-seeker who makes money off the US taxpayer subsidies. Why are conservatives still being throttled and blocked on Twitter? Musk made a big show of being unbiased, yet his platform is still a mess. Why? Why did the revealed source code show that the algorithms still include blocking (we don’t get to see the database of blocks, but we can see the code calls to the database).
Nobody cares if you don’t like Taibbi. And if you want to use the enemies product and live with all its secret censorship, go right ahead. Just don’t pretend to be an advocate for laisse faire business.
It seems ridiculous to me hearing you people bash Musk for not having a chaotic mammoth-sized mess fixed in a few months. I have reason to be upset with Twitter…suspended three times and then permanently banned. For what? Pre-Musk, 1. Saying “the GOP needed to die” and 2. “Trans wasn’t real, but a mental illness.” I challenged both and got nowhere. Post Musk, I got banned for saying “negro was not a derogatory term in the past and still isn’t.” This time I challenged that I was responding to a tweet by Joe Biden using that term, and his tweet was not deleted. They restored the account (amazing). Finally I got banned for some vague “violating Twitter rules.” No idea what I did…no response to challenge. Musk has been polishing a turd using “Twitter legacy employee shinola,” and eventually, he’s still going to have to flush both and start over. As smart as Musk is, I’d be surprised that a new software isn’t already being written for Twitter, perhaps using AI assistance. But until he rids the company of saboteurs, Twitter will remain broken. He should have moved headquarters to Texas.
The point you seem to be missing is that we are wary of Musk. I think with good reason.
We’re also well aware of Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop and its history. It would be shortsighted to believe it suddenly is beacon of complete freedom absent of the connections to the IC it had previously.
Trust but verify. And lighter on the trust with all social networks.
As a heavy viewer of Substack content, if any infringement of the that content is happening, it is of concern.
Notable Substack contributors:
Sey Hersch (exposed the Biden regime bombed Nord Streams)
Dr. Malone (exposed the genetic manipulations of the Covid “vaccine”)
Dr. Naomi Woolfe (exposed the disastrous reactions to the Covid “vaccine”)
If Musk has a problem with Substack links, that is an issue for me as that is where a tremendous amount of real news is happening. News we are “sheltered” from on MSM.
People have lost critical-thinking ability & it shows in so many of these statements. Glad to see there are some of us left who have that ability along with discernment & common sense!!
You’re wary of everything bc you have trust issues. Some may be well founded, but to have as many as you do puts you in the qanon flat earther camp.
Welcome to the CTH, progressive shite stirrer. Stick around and read the articles.
The comment section is used to dialog and share info, not attack.
Of all that I wrote, that was your take away?
I’m sorry our education system has failed you so completely.
According to Paul Serran in Gateway Pundit article, the suggestion was that Twitter and Substack are Complimentary – not competitors:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/war-of-the-platforms-are-twitter-and-substack-in-a-collision-course/
Please cite the views you find stupid. I’ll wait.
Hate to see this kind of shooting inside the tent.
Shooting inside the tent–whether over concerns real or manipulated–serves the interests of the deep state.
I think everyone should hold their fire, come to no conclusions yet, sit back and observe. Let’s wait to see if this is some psy ops intrusion between entities which have appeared to be serving the public’s interest lately.
Also, we know the powers are working toward regulation over the internet, which includes control over content as well as access to the internet. So keep that lens in hand as we patiently observe.
There’s no law that says we have to have and state an opinion on every breaking story within 10 minutes.
This comment reflects common sense.
Probably should be banned. Let’s ask Musk and Best for permission.
/sarc off
True…and usually even when you meet someone…your first impression…even though it may be lasting, is not always correct!
Killing by “friendly fire” is why conservatives lose. They want everybody to conform 100% to their particularly ideology or they bash them. Conservatives demand the whole cake and refuse a generous slice. The Democrats have better unity because their base is primarily sheeple. They feed on fake news and buy into it hook, line and sinker. They are easy to manipulate into a charging herd with no thought of the consequences or understanding of the issues. The Conservative base (not the same as Republican) are independent and more inclined to critical thinking. That makes them better, more productive citizens, but also means they stink at unity. Thus while the Dems coalesce into a battleship, Conservatives keep trying to win by paddling their own canoes. And as Dr. Phil says, “How’s that workin’ for ya?”
I see a wider diversity of opinion on the right. It’s the left that seems to be in lockstep every farther progressively left.
You nailed the conservatives are independent. Again, we tend to be a Trust but Verify crowd. I agree we aren’t good at unifying simply because we have a wider variety of opinion.
One thing I think we agree on, limited government which includes a drastic reduction of IC control and dominion on our lives.
Is it inside the tent? Once you see and know what is going on behind the curtain…how could a person possibly remain a democrat or a leftist unless in some ways you still stand for and believe in what they push? Matt, if he really sees what is going on….needs to buck the party because this isn’t about politics anymore. Elon has already come out and showed us he moved off where he was. Anybody can change.
Musk is still evidently allowing the TwitHole to censor a whole lot of conservative voices.
Agreed! And this is not the only instance where we have heard that claim. Still far too much censorship on the twit for me.
While I don’t follow Twitter or Substack, if SS is poaching files from Twitter with the intent of growing their company, then it smells like stealing.
I trust Musk but he has a huge investment in Twitter and like a good shop owner, I believe he will fight to keep it. The public view be damned!
I think the deepstate buries algorithms into the system that are so deep, it’s going to take a very long time to clean it out…if it even can be cleaned out. Maybe they should kill it and rebuild it without the IC in it.
That’s the most pernicious thing about all big bureaucracies, those inside often undermine the orders from the top and are able to hide responsibility among the other worker ants in the colony. Look how many of president Trump’s orders were ignored. It’s no different in any bureaucracy.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, Pal. You have no idea the software mess Musk is dealing with. If he got Twitter software under control in three years, he would be doing good!
Forbes isn’t a trusted source of information, it’s akin to NYT.
Elon Musk has had his hands full especially given recent SpaceX activity. However, even without that Musk relies on his team for a lot of tech information…he’s one man, Twitter is a behemoth.
He’s hit the ground running, but he’s not Superman. It’s silly for him to quabble especially with Matt. It seems Matt and he should have spoken directly, via telephone–I know how old fashioned of me. Squabbling back-and-forth on Twitter isn’t productive.
IMHO a better approach would have been Matt contacting Elon directly when he had issues then waited for Elon to investigate before griping in a public forum.
Everyone makes mistakes; they’re exacerbated by keyboard warriors.
I just had a recent falling out with a large corporation over a failed order, and had the same complaint to them about not picking up the phone to contact a customer as requested when commitments were not fulfilled.
There is no such thing as customer care anymore. They actually cancelled my order so they could stop getting bad reviews from me, rather than fulfilling what they had promised and taken my money for in the first place.
I agree things have changed. I wonder that it is not a younger generation that lacks respect for anything, and if that is not possibly a consequence of being raised in day care and public schools.
That’s probably some of it. But I can tell you that after my former company was bought out by a behemoth last year, that while “some”of the younger generation lacks respect or a sense of responsibility or sense of urgency, most of this crap with customer service has to do with a lot of woke, bean counting background & HR type managerial class that has been put in place at these companies that don’t give a rat’s ass about customer service, satisfaction, or retention.
All they want is your money, cutting ‘costs’ anyway they can, manipulating the books so they cash out on bonuses or stock gifts/options.
And I’m telling you this not only as an opinion but as a direct witness.
Surprisingly, we find that the majority of the generation right under the proverbial millennials are actually pretty close in outlook to some of us in the older generations. It is actually quite surprising but as a group they are a long way from being in a position to effect change or correct erroneous decisions already made and implemented.
The Achilles Heel of Capitalism has always been the character of Man. Greed in small amounts can be good but consumption with greed is a deadly force.
When companies are relatively small, they have an attachment to their customers that is more local and personal. As a company becomes very large that connection is lost. As it becomes even bigger, global if you will, then not only is that connection lost but the business model itself is turned on it’s head. When Billions of dollars are at play corporations actually depend less on actual sales or service for profit margin. Investments replace that income. Government subsidies, tax breaks and preferred banking service can provide almost all of the income required.
This is why all Corporate Law is detrimental to Free-Market Capitalism. Make CEO’s liable personally for their companies behavior/actions and you will see a sea change in business.
I know this seems a bit off-track but it is all to say that both of these individuals do not look at their customers like a small business would. They are both looking for ever-larger profit and expansion of reach through corporate/government/banking intrigue, so looking to find the hero in the group will be a dead-end street.
Concur. And you are not off track, but you missed 1 extra item. Buyouts (leverages or not) of competitors or ancillary lines.
Cooks the books by making it look like exponential growth from customers not already in their revenue streams. Market value explodes. However, after 1-2 to 5 years, a significant portion of the ‘new’ customer/revenue stream gets fed up and leaves for greener pastures.
Witnessing that in motion right now as we discuss.
By the time the creditors/investors figure it out, the executives and private equity have cashed out leaving the new investors/management and the public through government support ‘holding the bag.’
We are a nation of entitled narcissists…all of us…it’s just a matter of degree. I think the coming economic collapse is probably God’s severe mercy on America. Nothing provides an attitude adjustment like experiencing discomfort, hunger, and pain.
I had the same problem with a shoe company. Their “customer service” department completely ignored multiple contacts (for weeks) to resolve their sending the wrong shoe size….until I notified them I would be cancelling the charge through my credit card. Boom…next day response. Customer service is a foreign concept, because customers are disregarded, as demonstrated by Budweiser’s latest ad debacle. I hope all of you become “vigilante consumers” and boycott Bud. That commercial absolutely insulted men AND women….the idiots!
“foreign concept”
Funny! That too is a big part of the problem. They have outsourced their alleged customer care out to foreigners, who barely have a grasp of English.
“There is no such thing as customer care anymore.” Exactly – that is why they want you to do everything on the internet – EVERYTHING. They don’t want to be bothered to solve some problem an actual customer has. I miss the old days when you could call somebody and get something done. Leaving a message doesn’t work – nobody ever calls back. And if, by some miracle, they do, they have zero interest in your problem.
Lack of decorum and diplomacy is a scourge among US politicians, corporate leaders, and the media. Like or hate Rush Limbaugh, he normalized bad manners in the public square. Not OK.
Information provided is not always what it appears. It takes lots of time, constant evaluation and re-evaluation to discern the truth buried beneath.
#1 stop putting faith in false idols.
#2 see #1
#3 see #2
End
Maybe somebody has gotten to Taibbi, it seems to happen all the time 🤷♀️
Twitter/Musk vs Taibbi/Substack etc etc
It’s all Kubuki theater just like I warned everyone about Taibbi on the posts related to Sundance’s previous article 2 nights ago.
Use the analogy of SD regarding the Uniparty being an illusion. Same thing with these folks except for the IC instead elected officials.
They are trying to distract us from something. I just know what it is yet.
Everyone be vigilant.
Exactly. Another shiny object
Perhaps Elon’s staff will give him the “Government Funded” badge of shame(?)
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Lay off the “government funded” attacks on Elon Musk’s businesses, because 1) they either aren’t true or 2) government funding is irrelevant. Nearly every major institution in the US is government funded, but not all “funding” is “freeloading.” The government needs services performed to function, and it sends out bids for work it needs done. Companies bid and supposedly, the best bid wins. That’s just business. Musk participating in and winning a bid for work for the government is only a problem if he doesn’t deliver…and that has NOT been the case. Scripture itself says “a workman is worthy of his wages.” Bashing Musk’s companies as Government funded is a false accusation…and you should’ve be spreading a whopper.
Are you sure? Seems most of his wealth is propped-up by gov’t-funding. I don’t have any trust in him.
Glee
Be careful on this. Article in Motor Biscuit 12/18/21 refers to the LA Times reporting that Tesla, SpaceX and Solar City had already at that time received $4.9 BN in subsides. Dan Dolev of Jeffries Equity Research was quoted in that article was quoted regarding Musk as “he definitely goes where there is government money.” This is only one of scores of sources on the government ‘funding’ of Musk’s companies.
Why should the taxpayer fund SpaceX when we already fund NASA? Let him use private funds. Think about that.
It is rumored China subsidizes part of his operations in their country.
Other articles indicate that as much as $2B for Tesla in the form of over 100 ‘awards,’ over 80 grants and tax credits at the federal level only, excluding state and local subsidies.
Government does fund many public ‘institutions’ and ‘non-profits.’ Not so sure about a majority.
For profit companies, unless it is military R&D/manufacturing , or high tech, not so much.
As far as contracting goes with the federal government goes, I have a fair amount of experience with that.
If you could only see first hand the over done waste and incompetency of the proposals that come out that are far from an economic constraint (looking out for the taxpayers monies), it would blow your mind.
And then to qualify for said work, the amount of paperwork and politics (minority owned, women owned, joint venture requirements, Davis Bacon etc etc etc, on the contractor requirements); and over expensively required products that are specified even when other product lines that are as-good-as or better than what’s specified) even when there are large, reputable professional organizations that can perform the same bid at a fraction of the monetary cost and time to perform than those who are actually awarded would blow your mind even more. It is sickening. And it is all political.
Musk is no exception!
The best bid for quality and stewardship of taxpayer money is never, ever considered. And I know this first hand from 3+ decades experience.
Unless of course, you are politically ‘connected!’ Then a simple political ‘contribution’ in size, frequency, or both can remedy the aforementioned obstacles.
You’re claims of Norseman making false accusations are baseless as it seems you are not even aware of the provable facts I stated.
Frankly, considering Musk’s background, how his companies seem to buy into the WEF agenda, his obvious connections to the US government (SpaceX, etc.), I have never trusted his motives for ‘buying’ Twitter. The intelligence information he has allowed to become public was not news…Did we not all know that anyway? Are we expected to believe that Musk knew none of this when plunking down $44 billion of ‘his own’ money?
My person interpretation of this entire scenario is that the intelligence forces were losing control of the the members of Twitter, as those that they would have WANTED to surveil were leaving the platform due to the ‘terms and conditions’ that were preventing them from posting. What was left on Twitter were those that, for the most part, were not those that the intelligence community was interested in….MAGA supporters, etc., were leaving for other platforms. What better way to get them all back than to do this psyop indicating that now all was in the open, and Twitter had changed its affiliation?
I did not go back to Twitter. And frankly, questioned the ‘due diligence’ of anyone who did. I think this entire scenario was purposefully done to get those ‘domestic terrorists’ back to Twitter, so Twitter could continue business as usual.
Touché. Bingo. Winner, winner, chicken 🐓 dinner!
You hit all the right themes, consolidation of surveillance field, “due diligence” and funding (was it really his personal money?), WEF, TESLA/SPACE X = DARPA = IC(USG/FVEY).
And Taibbi = possible/probable controlled “credible” (left wing) journalist.
Controlled optics – all of it.
What did we all get that we didn’t already know or was already exposed that could/would be exploited/used my us?
NOTHING!
Actually, think that Taibbi was just somewhat naive to the machinations behind the scenes.
Maybe, but it is “better to be safe than sorry.”
Old Deep South ‘sayin’ – Don’t believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.
I agree , a “ quasi dupe” perhaps ? Remember that local gal reporter up in Maine who got the ‘scoop” of George W Bush’s drunk driving arrest in Maine years earlier , just before Bush vs Gore election -Turned out a Dem activist /operative up there left it out somewhere ( forget how ) for her to see and couldn’t miss – Point is – she ACTUALLY believed she had discovered it herself and gotten the big scoop …
“Quasi dupe” = manipulated = influenced = coerced = control.
Control does not necessarily have to be intentionally willful, threatened, bribed, intimidated.
‘Tricking’ someone is still controlling them. The target just may not see the strings of the marionette.
Couldn’t agree more! The purpose of the Musk “takeover” of Twitter was to attempt a reset with respect to the trust that people place in the Twitter platform. Trust that should never be given, no matter who is running the show.
That was my initial gut feeling, and clearly has been borne out by the so-called “changes” made to the platform. The limited hangout of information, “Twitter Files”, is really the top of the iceberg.
All of the platforms have back doors for the IC. Except possibly TikTok, which is why the USG opposes it.
I think you’re assigning motives to someone whose intentions you can’t possibly know. But you make a good Republican…they don’t know how to create a critical mass for change, because they keep alienating people who don’t line up 100% to their ideology. Thus the majority keeps losing…because that is STUPID STATEGY!
Dr. Shiva Joins Steve Bannon on The War Room to Discuss His Historic Work on the Long Fuse Report – Revealing Twitter-Government Collusion – with Shout-Out to Gateway Pundit (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/dr-shiva-joins-steve-bannon-on-the-war-room-to-discuss-his-historic-work-on-the-long-fuse-report-revealing-twitter-government-collusion-with-shout-out-to-gateway-pundit-video/
B.S. Shiva is a liar and a Trump hater.
The only question Musk needs to answer is this….is he a dupe or a conspirator?
I always trusted Musk with caution. I think, therefore I am and I still do. Musk warmed up to the feeling of MAGA when he purchased Twitter. There must be something special that happened with the relationship with Taibbi or OR . We will prob find out soon. Leftovers from Gov missed at first attempt.
Elon’s Tesla cars are mostly made in China and he gets funding from the CCP for them as well. Many that have been on Twitter for years are livid about this… they also write Substacks. Also, many conservatives still don’t have their Twitter accounts back either. Me be one of them.
From my POV the confusion between these two supposed truth warriors is only skin deep.
Both of these tech bosses know well the underlying problem with their business models yet try to mask it.
Musk’s ruse is shown by his continued attempts to draw focus on the platform as the product.
The Twitter product is still the user’s data and an $8/month blue check leads me to believe nothing significant has changed in the business model.
Based on the false public perception of tech platforms as products, companies like Substack have an advertising problem.
Why do people continue to expect to get a product without compensation? This has been a problem since the earliest days of the internet that continues to bug me, and is the main reason I have never trusted social media.
One of Musk’s ambitions is to create an “everything” app… WeChat tailored for the West. Keep vigilant, patriots.
So let me get this straight: Musk, a private citizen, purchased Twitter with private capital, but the business he bought is controlled by the government. Critical analysis tells me he knew this going in. Gee, lightbulb moment! He has agreed to a fascist relationship with the government.
I don’t use Twitter, I’ve never used Twitter and I hope you don’t either. Want to throw a wrench into fascism? Bankrupt this shitty little app.
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So which one is the “good” guy now.. /s
I’ve never trusted musk fully and don’t know enough about Taibbi to make a decision but his prior work is enough for a pause there too. Probably will keep on keeping with that philosophy based on this reporting.
Neither
Let us remember that Matt Taibbi danced publicly on Andrew Breitbarts grave.
Matt Taibbi is a leftist who said that he trusted Elon, thought he was sincere, and claimed that Elon did a tremendous public service. IMO, leftists are not trustworthy.
Okay. That’s all I need to know about Taibbi. I don’t know why we trust journalists from the left in the first place. The left lies.
My verdict is out on Musk but there are certainly many red flags. I’ll wait and see with him.
Shiz happens…
If you don’t “trust” either one of them and just use the information you can verify you are probably wise.
So create a “twitter like” service and start poaching from twitter – I can see that would likely irritate someone
“I can see that would likely irritate someone”
Especially if he knew it was less painful than facing the truth of his predicament.
“I’m not sure what is going on at the Twitter with Elon Musk, but apparently either his team is misleading their CEO, or Musk is just shooting from the hip.”
Neither Sundance.
I had, on occasion, seen deluded tech executives floated to the top in my career. The “fairhaired” we called them. None stayed there long in the fiercely competitive hi-tech era, after they served their purpose. But now we live in the era of global high tech monopolies. The “reset”.
Elon Musk is a post turtle, placed high atop a shining high tech tower. One with great mental and intellectual capacity. One specifically groomed, recruited and funded for BigTech’s grand illusion of “freemarket monopolies”.
But such a post turtle comes with a flaw of self-delusion – necessarily being unable to see that he did not and could not have created vast technology system he has been placed atop.
No way a single man, in such a short time, could have come up with 50 years of culminating intellectual property, complex integrated-systems, engineering and manufacturing expertise, market access, and global capital. No way – not without those in control of all, having reason to lie it at his feet.
Yup. Musk does really think he built Tesla, SpaceX. He does think his brilliance built a multi billion dollar coffeeshop. It seems obvious now, at least to me, that he cannot or will not bring himself to open that creaking closet door in the back of the coffeeshop, and gaze down through the clouds at the labyrinths of globalist control upon which his storefront sits.
Still, and always will be, a front for the deep state. That’s why Trump didn’t return to Twitter.
That and a non-compete.
I have no idea what’s going on either. According to Dr.Shiva Ayyadurai, Musk was sent in to “clean up a crime scene, not solve the crime”. He was on War Room last week and said Musk hasn’t closed the “back door portal” to Twitter for Government even though he knows of its existence.
https://vashiva.com/dr-shiva-tells-steve-bannon-that-govt-backdoor-censorship-portal-into-twitter-fb-is-not-a-line-of-code-but-a-network-of-evil-discovered-by-dr-shiva-in-2020/
This is INCREDIBLE. Watch these short videos to learn exactly why.
A government back door via an NGO to control major social media was exposed way back in 2020. What is being revealed now by Musk and Taibbi is only a “limited hangout” as it is called in the science of propaganda to make us think ALL has been revealed. Not even close.
Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai who went to court over this (and the case was SEALED and he was gagged, which he then violated immediately) informed Musk of this case after Musk’s takeover of Twitter and Musk said, to paraphrase, “Interesting” and then never said another word about it.
Bannon interviews Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai (13:40 long)
5 Apr 2023
https://rumble.com/v2glmtq-dr.-shiva-blasts-musk-conservative-influencers-as-controlled-opposition-in-.html
More:
https://rumble.com/v2gtj3q-dr.-shiva-elon-musks-backdoor-censorship-ecosystem-is-silicon-valleys-fasci.html
A smart guy:
The Man Who Invented Email
Nov. 15, 2011
https://techland.time.com/2011/11/15/the-man-who-invented-email/
If you’re reading this, you’re online and, as such, you probably have an email account. But have you ever wondered about the origins of email? It’s not exactly a cut-and-dried case, as various forms of electronic messaging have been around since the humble telegraph.
I had the opportunity to sit down with V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai, who holds the first copyright for “EMAIL”—a system he began building in 1978 at just 14 years of age. It was modeled after the communication system being used at the University of Medicine and Dentistry in Newark, New Jersey. His task: replicate the University’s traditional mail system electronically.
Haha! You and I posted the same thing at the same time. I only posted the more recent War Room clip from Dr. Shiva’s website, but glad you posted both. Bannon saw it important enough to have Dr. Shiva on twice to discuss it. If it’s true that Musk refuses to close, or even comment on, the “back door portal” after Shiva informed him about it a while ago, then you must wonder about Musk’s intentions.
I proved yesterday here at CTH that Matt’s Substack story was not blocked by twatter, at least not at the time I did my experiment.
And another WH journalists’s Substack link on his profile was not blocked.
Having said that, I am not using a twatter app, so I do not know if it acts differently.
What IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING is that twatter has added a Warning To Substack links, a hoop to make you think twice about going there as the content might not be as safe as content on twatter, because they have different standards and ToS.
A lot of hubris coming from twatter, but essentially there was no full on blocking on the two people I looked at.
I think there are people still embedded within twatter who don’t want the Jack’s Magic Coffee story getting any more attention, and they are throwing roadblocks in the way to damage the relationship between Musk and Taibbi, and anyone else who might get in their way.
If they were trying to start there own type of Twitter substack, then obviously Twitter would block any information that would help their competitors build a rival company. If I were Musk I’d stop any downloads from Twitter, but this one does give me pause, because it was Musk who gave Taibbi the files originally I believe. Musk can be a tiger if he needs to be, as he is obviously running Twitter like he runs Tesla. You don’t give your competition a leg up. Simple really !!
Yup, and the Russians hacked into the DNC computers. to throw the 2016 election to Trump.
Taibbi nor anyone else ever had access to Twitter’s database. The “files” Taibbi and others saw were extracted, sanitized, copied and reviewed by deepstate lawyers.
If one of the worlds largest internet companies has firewalls are so weak the anyone like Substack could download “massive portions” of its database, then Musk’s got a whole lot more serious problems to fix than Taibbi.
Musk has no competition. He runs a global monopoly. Funded by the global capital and protected by the deepstate.
I still hold the opinion that if everyone abandoned Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop and went to other outlets, then the “intelligence apparatus” would have to seek out other avenues.
The time for Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop has come and gone.
An OPINION piece from Alex Berenson:
It’s not Matt Taibbi (or Substack), it’s Elon
The world’s most interesting billionaire has developed a love-hate relationship with Twitter – and anyone who stands up to him
Elon Musk is tired.
He’s been tired, and making mistakes, ever since he wrapped himself up in the tar baby(trigger alert) that is Twitter. Along the way he’s lost $24 billion on the little bird, by his own estimate.
Now Musk has made his worst mistake yet.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/its-not-matt-taibbi-or-substack-its
I’m going to add this update here:
Musk has very deep ties with the CCP as a source of $$. Why doesn’t he expose anything about China on twitter? Check it out.
And the US IC. Ever heard of a “double agent?”
if other Substack authors are able to tweet their links then Taibbi is an anomaly
so what is happening with them?
facts first opinions last
so
The users of Substack, an email newsletter platform, are unable to embed tweets in their stories and Twitter users are currently unable to like or comment on a tweet that links to a Substack publication on the.substack domain.
are they trying to embed their own tweets or tweets by others?
are they trying to monetize their own tweets or tweets by others?
and sharing 10% revenue with Substack BigGuy?
You’re a liar!
No, you’re a liar!
Nuh-uh— YOU are the big fat liar!
Well, your pants are on fire!
I teach.
I hear this same conversation daily.
Some things never change. 🤷♀️
I think I posted this artcle from Ticker Guy here the other day:
Twitter Has Demoted Itself
Specifically, Twitter had the capacity to generate an OAUTH key and secret, and thus I could have the CMS here announce said articles when they were posted. If I wanted to queue something up to post at 0700 in the morning, it would be tweeted at 0700. Exactly once, mind you, unlike many folks who use Twitter as a pincushion posting the same thing over and over again.
Twitter has now killed this; while they allegedly are “allowing” you to keep previous authorizations they revoked all the keys, and while you can generate a new one it doesn’t work anymore. There is now a “developer” option which, it appears, comes with a price.
Well, in a word, “No.”
I will simply Tweet by hand.
But this means I will also evaluate where I bother to announce, since I have to do it myself. Is the right place Twitter? Is it Gab? Is it some other social network? Is it not at all?
I didn’t make this decision — Elon Musk did. And, as Twitter’s owner, he has every right to do that. But what he’s done is destroy the unique advantage Twitter had in this regard. Twitter is just another place on the Internet now to me, and no longer holds any special advantage — one which cost Musk nothing, yet in fact provided Twitter with monetizable content.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker
This sounds like a communication problem to me. Possibly it is between musk and his directions to his staff or vice versa, and with Taibbi. I do not share Taibbi’s political views nor do I respect them. But I do respect him as a journalist with integrity which is too rare for liberals these days.
From Matt Taibbi via his Racket News publication on Substack:
https://www.racket.news/p/a-few-clarifications?lli=1&utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2
“I’ve been caught up in a feud between companies, and some things have been said. Just to clarify:
I’ve never been a Substack employee. I have my own company, but I’m employed by subscribers. I have some loyalty to Substack, a company that’s always treated me well, and whose original Substack Pro offer made it possible for a person with kids like me to leave mainstream journalism.
“One of the things that attracted me to Substack was that it was as close to censor-proof a platform as could be found. The distribution system, e-mail, isn’t governed by one actor (though Google’s gmail size limit is an example of a kind of limiting factor). Management could be a weak point, but Chris Best, Hamish McKenzie, Jairaj Sethi, and others have repeatedly shown a disinclination to get involved with content decisions. Some calls have been difficult, and I’m glad they take them seriously.”
A lot of acrimony could’ve been avoided if Twitter had just issued a statement: “We’ve restricted Substack because they were downloading a massive portion of the Twitter database to bootstrap their Twitter clone.”
Remember that old Twitter was hated due to lack of transparency.
Oh, this irony…
Self anointed important people crying because their “voices” were censored or not…on platform, that for about a decade has been censoring voices….interesting that the voices crying now, were not heard when more were being censored. But now…oh, but now, it’s their voice…therefore, woe is me…woe is me, how dare they censor me…!
The irony.
See Taibbi’s Substack response today:
https://www.racket.news/p/a-few-clarifications?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1042&post_id=113679695&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
“I’ve been caught up in a feud between companies, and some things have been said. Just to clarify:
I’ve never been a Substack employee. I have my own company, but I’m employed by subscribers. I have some loyalty to Substack, a company that’s always treated me well, and whose original Substack Pro offer made it possible for a person with kids like me to leave mainstream journalism.
One of the things that attracted me to Substack was that it was as close to censor-proof a platform as could be found. The distribution system, e-mail, isn’t governed by one actor (though Google’s gmail size limit is an example of a kind of limiting factor). Management could be a weak point, but Chris Best, Hamish McKenzie, Jairaj Sethi, and others have repeatedly shown a disinclination to get involved with content decisions. Some calls have been difficult, and I’m glad they take them seriously.”
That Musk Intends on voting for Desantis instead of Trump tells me all i need to know about him.
Yeah, maybe somebody has created an (dis)information silo around Musk. Like what happened to VP Pence and Justice Sotomayor. His chief of staff?
This conversation by Twitter smells too much like government at work. Surely the government corrupt agencies are there. They leave a trail of confusion, distraction and doublespeak every where they go.
I have every reason to distrust the United States ruling class which includes Musk.
As far I’m concerned the jury is still out Elon. He still hasn’t distanced or differentiated himself from FBI CIA NSA enough to quieten my suspicion.
Additional information from Paul Serran (Gateway Pundit)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/war-of-the-platforms-are-twitter-and-substack-in-a-collision-course/
What I think is going on is, Substack has a better financial model than Twitter and it pisses Elon off because they got there largely on the back of Twitter.
This is Elon’s way of sending a message. Not just to Substack, but others. Also, Substack is releasing a new notes feature which eeriely resemble Tweets….
In the last month or so, Musk has done a turn about. Users have been suspended over factual items already printed elsewhere, he’s also done nothing about producing the Fauci Files as was promised back in December when he started producing other similar analysis on other topics. Interestingly some of those were done by Taibibi and Matt was quite upset about them and seemed to be turning around politically.
I wonder if Matt started pressure on Musk to produce the Fauci tweets and Pharma tweets and Musk was holding back on them because they represent a lot of money to a lot of people and would probably lead to some major lawsuits and possible Government interference and harassment. Some of which started up last week or so.
My guess is some very LARGE people have gotten to Musk and laid down the law that they will put him in a hole on all his enterprises such that he will never recover. Very easy for them to do and to bring in another producer to run his operations. Including his rockets.
I’ll confess to not understanding exactly what this is all about.
I’ve respected Matt for years and appreciate that he does have a long track record of being anti-war and willing to call out at least some of the bullshit narrative constructs.
The jury is definitely still out on Musk as well.
At least for me.
In case you wondered if EM is a bad guy (hint – like father, like som) and how Tucker stays on TV if he’s not a part of the MSM, (hint – seems his am memo is slightly different but basically the same) –
https://rumble.com/v2glmtq-dr.-shiva-blasts-musk-conservative-influencers-as-controlled-opposition-in-.html
https://rumble.com/v2gtj3q-dr.-shiva-elon-musks-backdoor-censorship-ecosystem-is-silicon-valleys-fasci.html
The Treehouse has been on to Twitter for several years. This exposes who Musk really is…”Elon Musk is quite literally a CIA creation. He made all of his money from the taxpayers. When he sells his inflated stock that was made possible by ZEV credits, grants, tax breaks, and other corporate welfare fraud he is laundering the money stolen from taxes that was then inflated by a rigged stock market.”
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/repost-elon-musk-officially-takes
Months ago when Musk popped up on the scene to buy Twitter and most of the posters here were elated because he promised to open it up to conservative free speech, I warned everyone that he was not the salvation of the first amendment. He would be exposed. He is mercurial and flips on a dime. I was ridiculed. And now you know why I posted what I did. Musk’s history belies all the talk about his “protecting” free speech. His worldview is internally confused ergo he reacts predictively in his own attention seeking self interest. No man who announces his support for freedon yet greases the palms of the barbaric CCP (including making one of their selected as the new CEO of Tesla) when given the chance. Is he wealthy? Yes, but he hyped his way just like Bill Gates into that position. Is he savvy? Yes, and he was there when the breaks came just like when he conned the Congress into $6BILLION tax payer dollars to do his start up. Those grifters thought they were going to get a piece of the action (just like with the skimming Ukrainian war money).
So the wisest thing for anyone to do is WAIT for the fallout and reserve opinions til all plays out. You are in for a wild ride with this man-child yet to come. He’s already started his routine with this AI halt letter. Funny because he started the top AI company (Open AI) that has developed the Chat bot. Now he wants to “halt” further development? I smell another scam..don’t you?
If 1 would ever trust a Musk who comes from a wealthy background & still has wealthy Cabalist WEF friends & is supportive of their statements & actions , owns a business where young Animals are experimented on for more greed & purports to support freedom of speech for the rest of us, I’d say that Critical Thinking & Common sense are dead!
Musk is a transhumanist controlled opposition. This is obvious. His business is eyeball deep in DARPA/IC agenda. Automated “smart cars”? Spaceforce? But he buys Twitter, feeds some catnip to the right, and people think he’s some free speech white hat? Stop to think.
On the flipside, Taibbi has never been a sellout. He’s had some misassumptions, but he’s one of the *tiniest few* journalists to actually self-correct, which is what we need if we’re going to get out of this mess alive. He’s a good reporter and communicator, even if he’s come from a different perspective. Like I said -none of us has everything right, and what you need in a journalist is the openness to self-correct in the face of facts. It’s because he’s one of the few honest journalists that he’s being set-up and discredited to both sides of the political spectrum.
Don’t wear partisan blinders. It makes us easy to dupe.
1. Substack is not controlled by the CCP.
2. Musk is up the CCP’S rear for his whole existence.
Figger it out.