Here’s a question I have. I am looking forward to your opinion. I have my own.
In the Trump -vs- DeSantis storyline the following data points are generally agreed:
♦Approximately 75% of the Big Con “INFLUENCERS” (Big $) and punditry Support Ron DeSantis
♦Approximately 25% of the Small “Influencers” (Small $) and Indy punditry Support Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, amid the voting base the inverse is true:
♦Approximately 25% of the conservative, working-class, base voters support Ron DeSantis
♦Approximately 75% of the conservative, working-class, base voters support Donald Trump
Reconcile this inversion. What does it mean?
As previously noted, this weekend Team DeSantis held an event. “Four Seasons resort in Palm Beach, Florida, including wealthy Republican donors and conservative social-media influencers.”
From my perspective the framework was clear in the middle of last year. This weekend’s gathering in Palm Beach is essentially an outcome of the Billionaire Sea Island group meeting. The Four Seasons event is an assembly of key people those managing Ron DeSantis have organized.
Christina Pushaw has been working on this operation since she entered the orbit of Ron DeSantis. All of the activity is a previously planned series of events. The current emphasis is to enlist the former Cruz Crew in the DeSantis effort.
According to surfacing reports attendees this weekend included: Governors: Kim Reynolds, Kevin Stitt, Bill Lee. Senators Tom Cotton, Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. Congress: Thomas Massie, Chip Roy as well as Adam Laxalt, Jim Lamon and Dana Loesch. All former Cruz Crew members.
About the Inversion – Money is flowing from the billionaire multinational and Wall Street groups (Sea Island folks) into various political action committees, SuperPACs, RGA networks and right-leaning establishment republican think tanks and NGO type political organizations. This is all “stop Trump” money.
The money is being doled out from those political organizations into the BigCon media influence group. The “influencers” are downstream beneficiaries of the Sea Island billionaire cash. The lure of the financial benefits forms the basis of the inversion.
Pushaw is in charge of the cash flow operation; essentially creating an astroturf network to give the illusion of greater support than actually exists.
BigCon has money, but not the majority of the voters. This was the issue that BigCon could not overcome in 2016 with Jeb, Rubio and eventually Cruz.
This time around, the Sea Island group planned more deeply to enlist a single candidate who could put themselves forward as the 2024 MAGA Trump alternative; that’s DeSantis. Then this same group began structuring all of the support systems to overcome the voter hurdle.
However, the Sea Island and supporting BigCon influence group have one major problem. Voters can see and feel astroturf operations, even when it is cleverly disguised as authentic or organic support.
The former ’16 Cruz Crew in combination with the former GOPe ’16 Jeb! Crew form the cornerstone of the DeSantis political support system. Recruiting social media influencers to join that assembly is the job of Christina Pushaw. This is what I noticed in the middle of 2022 and began warning about. This is not at all organic.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis’ entire narrative as governor, including the anti-wokeism efforts, has been designed to support a previously planned outcome. DeSantis was always going to be elevated as the 2024 non-Trump alternative.
Pushaw is essentially doing an “influence operation” inside the U.S. political system that parallels what was done in Ukraine to install Volodymyr Zelenskyy. It’s not some whacky theory, just look at what they are doing. DeSantis is as controlled and subsequently inauthentic as Zelenskyy and World War Reddit.
That’s why we are seeing this extreme inversion. It’s all about the money.
Remember, in the big picture the Sea Island group doesn’t care who wins the 2024 election, Democrats or Republicans it doesn’t matter, as long as it’s not Trump.
What matters to the Sea Island group is stopping Donald Trump and the America-First platform he represents.
Now do you see what the investigations in the House are designed to do? No investigations into election fraud.
Kentucky Republican Rep. Thomas Massie says ‘Trump is at fault’ for deadly riot at Capitol
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/09/rep-thomas-massie-says-trump-is-at-fault-for-deadly-riot/6611721002/
“The problem is the surplus of lies they keep selling. Stop buying them.”
-Neil Oliver
That was all said in the heat of the moment. I wonder if Massie has learned better since.
This is why we shouldn’t have Election Fraud Coups and remove the Consent from the Governed, congressman.
The heat of the moment was displayed by the average people who were protesting election fraud that day. Massie learned how to use the plight of innocent Americans to attack them in the worst way possible.
No, Massie has not learned anything. Thomas Massie is a DeSantis supporter, as evidenced by his attendance at recent DeSantis appearances. Still a RINO by his actions.
I hear Thomas Massey on a local radio station out of Huntington WV being interviewed every month or so. His district’s eastern boundary is quite close to being contiguous with Huntington WV/Ashland KY area so the station reaches many of his constituents.
Massey talks a good MAGA game. He was/is against the China Virus vaccine and mask mandates. He says openly that he believes the vaccine is killing people. Massey is concerned about the out of control spending and national debt. He is a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, he is all for closing the border, he now says there was no insurrection, etc.
That being said, I remember when Trump called for Massey to be thrown out of the Republican Party for being concerned about the coronavirus stimulus bill known as The Save Our Worker’s Bill. Massey was stalling the bill in order to get a “roll call” vote in the House. During that period, I believe Massey was actually running President Trump’s re-election campaign in his KY district. https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/trump-says-gop-should-eject-rep-thomas-massie-for-stalling-coronavirus-bill/
At the time I thought that was an error by President Trump and I was somewhat perturbed by his statement. This could be the “grudge” reason for Massey now gyrating toward DeSantized. But that still makes no sense if you are truly trying to save the country.
However, I believe that Massey has now let his personal feelings steer him into a gigantic error attending this meeting and being photographed with Christina Pushaw. I believe this woman is another Karl Rove wannabe kingmaker and will do anything to “climb the political ladder. Presently I am perturbed at Massey and most likely will never see him in the same light again. He should know better than to support the very people such as Rove, Jeb and billionaire donors that he always rails against.
Obiviously, President Trump is not holding any grudges as he endorsed Massey in his 2022 election bid. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/10/trump-endorses-kentucky-gop-house-members-barr-guthrie-rogers-massie/9718539002/….. In 2020 President garnered 62.1 % of the vote in KY and in Massey’s 4th district that margin was 64.8%.
It appears that Massey is the one holding the grudge. Also, on a side note, as I watched the votes for McCarthy for Speaker of the House, Massey voted every time for McCarthy and did NOT stand with the 20 who opposed McCarthy and wanted concessions on the rules. I thought Massey was known as Mr. No. In this case he was Mr. Yes each time for the RINO team. Same with MTG. I wondered why? Now maybe I will see.
With all that being said, I tend to agree with you about these ‘investigation” going nowhere but stalling for time to run out. At this point it feels like another Trey “Parakeet Head” Gowdy RINO disappointment swamp CYA play. Things are moving slowly in the “new” (maybe same as the old) House. We shall see.
Just my thoughts:
DeSantis could possibly win the primary with all the mega donor support.
He cannot win the general. (unless the uniparty pulled a Biden and I don’t see the Dems going along with that).
So if the big money goal is stopping Trump and allowing a Dem to win the general then they can be successful.
Why? What’s the difference between RdS and Jeb! in terms of raising all that cash? He can have all the influencer votes. How is he going to pull off a MAGA con? If MAGA voters are going to get conned, then they deserve what they get. I doubt if any MAGA supporter is going to vote for this scam.
DeSantis has to do double duty. He not only has to convince voters to vote for him, he also has to convince MAGA voters to vote for him INSTEAD of Trump.
It will be impossible and he’s a dum dum for even considering taking on Trump.
The math only works if someone else zeroes Trump.
Still a dum dum, but he isn’t intending to take on Trump Mano a Meatball.
Many Republicans don’t see the manipulation. My husband believes in DJT policies, but considers him too polarizing to win. To him, RDS is a more acceptable choice to many people, and he says the right things, so he’s for RDS. He doesn’t have the same level of discernment I have, to see how FOX pushes RDS and slams DJT to manipulate his thinking. There are many Republican voters in the same boat, supposedly smart, educated people who fall for propaganda over and over. They want the same things you and I want, but they don’t recognize the poison that has been poured into their ears.
amen, sister. likewise.
I think its because they’re too scared of the implications; that the criminality and corruption and betrayal is so vast and completely pervasive, that there is no hope; and so its a false form of comforting themselves to just ignore it and pretend it isn’t real.
As the funny little song goes: (I don’t know if I remember it right?) “Whenever I am alone, and ever I feel afraid, I whistle a happy tune, so no one will suspect I’m afraid!” Just pretend it isn’t there; and don’t listen to anyone who tells you it is.
Your assumption of his ability to win Primary is only possible on Dominion machines. Trump will win all primaries except maybe states where they allow Democrats to vote in Republican primaries.
True, but people like Mitch and Lyndsey keep getting elected somehow.
They only need rampant corruption in a handful of states.
Has Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, etc. been fixed?
By fixed I mean repaired and not fixed as in their current state.
South Carolina has open elections and uses Dominion. Dem voters + rigged machines = Graham stays in position
they also have several to run against ms lindsey to split the vote
I agree. Also If all the election fraud keeps surfacing—Trump may win Before 2024–cause he already won!
What makes your assertion any more valid than, Lone Wattie’s? Both of you are presenting hypotheticals, but at least he Lone Wattie presents his scenario as a hypothetical. You actually assert what you believe to be a fact and then try to argue with it against his admitted possibility. Please explain how Dominion’s machines will be the only way DeSantis could win? And don’t assert that you have a crystal ball, because you don’t if I don’t.
In my opinion, I don’t think that the Florida Governor has a chance at all against President Trump; he just doesn’t have what it takes. Even when he was supposedly at his best standing up for Florida; you can’t really think that that would be any match for Donald Trump, do you? The President is just too big league; and RD is minors at best. Guys like that, when you can only fill them with hot air, eventually pop; because that’s all that’s in them… hot air.
Just my opinion.
From TheConservativeTreehouse article, = “Remember, in the big picture the Sea Island group doesn’t care who wins the 2024 election, Democrats or Republicans it doesn’t matter, as long as it’s not Trump.
What matters to the Sea Island group is stopping Donald Trump and the America-First platform he represents.”
Just as with Noem–Too many believe DeSantis is Florida’s savior! Many believe DeSantis’s saving of Florida, makes him the perfect Savior for America.
Yes. And that belief is far from the truth. Managing the bloated and corrupt federal government of America is hugely different than managing the state government of Florida.
DeSantis has had the wind at his back in Florida via a GOP-controlled legislature. He would have no such advantage in DC.
It means that Big Con Money Influencers believe that they can buy an election and that the 75% Trump supporters can be “managed” to get their votes for a GOPe candidate.
That doesn’t work for me, or anyone I know.
Might simply harden the battle lines.
100%
They are not worried about managing the voters as long as they can manage the winner.
They are not investing in a Desantis win. They are investing in a Trump loss.
To them, anyone other than Trump is manageable.
I don’t think “our” money matters anymore. We don’t have enough t0 compare to what they’ve stolen from us, and now use against us. That ship has sailed.
What we did have, was our votes. We did that overwhelmingly, and now it’s obvious that our votes have been stolen as well.
Jeb’s 2016 candidacy taught me all I needed to know about the entire Bush family.
Any association with Jeb tells me all I need to know about any future candidates.
Jeb is kryptonite to anyone he associates with.
Know your enemies by the company they keep.
Yep, Jeb is kryptonite to me.
If the fix had been in for jeb like it was for biden, jeb would be the resident.
If Trump isn’t the nominee I will write myself in.
Its frustrating to see America being dismantled piece by piece every day by the communists.
Kruschief said America would be destroyed from within without firing a shot.
Thats whats is happening now.
You said it. Even before Trump got in the 2016 primary, Jeb said he could win the nomination without the base.
And I actually thought Thomas Masse was one of the good guys…NOTHING IS EVER AS IT SEEMS….HOW EFFING PERPETUALLY AGGRAVATING AND ANNOYING!!!!!
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Well, now we know.
The GOPe does not have any intention of winning. They know without Trump, they’ll become the loser party. They make more money leading from behind. The GOPe is a front organization for moneyed interests, not Americans’ interests. The Sea Island gang is getting their marching orders organized. I’d love to see Pushaw’s little black book. This show is being financed by World Banking Money.
I don’t see any logical inconsistency. It makes perfect sense. Big money supports the institutional candidate but the people don’t. The outsider isn’t supported by the big money but is supported by the people. Where’s the disconnect? The 80/20 rule is like a law of nature.
It would be more of a quandary if the people where in line with the big money. Big money interest NEVER align with the working class.
DeSantis has one major hurdle. MAGA voters will not support him en masse should he win the primary. All the money in the world will not buy their support.
Well, I for one prefer Trump; however, given the choice to a) stay home, b)vote Dem or c) vote DeSantis – I will choose c every time.
Is he a better choice than Trump, NO!!!! but is way better than not voting or voting D.
I’m rooting for another Trump 2016-like victory, but I personally have no control over the outcome. Getting upset, whiny like a baby and taking my toys home (not voting) is not a choice. Just like I keep pushing forward even though “they” stole 2020 and nothing was down about it – “they” want you to quit and give-up: DON’T!!!!!
My ballot will have President Donald Trump either in a X box or written in. I will vote only for him.
Yes and RINO loses a gazillion down ballot votes without President Trump on the ballot
Ditto 😊
d. Write in Trump
You forgot d. Write in Trump.
The problem is you “prefer” only.
that’s the lie we told ourselves that kept getting us RINO’s re-elected….. just hold your nose and vote R because their better than those D’s….
Problem now is…… WE KNOW THAT’S A LIE, RINO REPUBLICANS ARE EQUALLY AS BAD or WORSE.
this is not seen as a problem. remember…the gop is fine with losing.
I think the point that needs to be reiterated is that the GOP does not care if they win the Presidency…they have proven that over and over again by who they have nominated (think Bob “it’s my turn” Dole, John “Songbird” McCain, Pierre Delecto McRomney, Jeb!, etc).
They have to put forth a candidate that they control and that will play by THEIR rules if they should happen to get elected, although Cocaine Mitch and the Congressional Leadership would prefer that not happen because then the pesky voters start expecting them to fulfill their campaign promises and that ain’t happening! (See any real movement on ANY accountability in ANY of the House committees? No, me neither!)
But the real goal is to “fire up the base” so as to push certain down-ticket candidates across the line and to cover up the fact that they are bought and paid for by the Big Business Chamber of Commerce Donor class which would be plain for all to see if their candidates only got 25-30% of the overall vote totals. But I, for one, have held my nose and voted for the “lesser of two evils” for the last time and I suspect that I am not alone!
Exactly
Would you vote for Kamala rather than DeSantis? That is what the Uniparty is planning. Maybe Warren or Bernie?
Anyone rather than a RINO.
They don’t need to win or care to. They still have the money. That’s all that matters to them. The rest is just theater. Until ballot harvesting is fixed, all of this is pointless for American citizens.
DeS can’t pull in dems + independents + never voted + MAGA in the general election.
Saying all the “right” things, isn’t he? Jumping on the Anti-vaxx bandwagon too. And to think Soros thought what he said about RDS was complimentary!
Fox hosts and contributors have been told to push DeSantis. Mark Levin supported Cruz in 2015-16. Never-Trumper Dana Loesch is a Fox contributor. Anything positive about Trump is verboten on Fox, just like 2020 election fraud. Fox would not even carry his East Palestine news conference. The fix is in to STOP TRUMP!
Fox is verboten to me. I will not watch tucker even when Sundance puts Tucker’s commentary on CTH. The final straw was reading the Tucker emails after the 2020 election. He called us F-ers! Because we said the election was stolen. Tucker’s “this will make you shiver”, “this is crazy”, headlines will not draw me into who and what he truly is. He is just another Big Money decepticon. So long, Tucker, I hardly knew you! Done@#%*!)&^$#@!
That creep’s in early on the RsD bandwagon. Figures. Repeat performance.
Only Donald Trump is feared by the Swamp. Not electing Trump will reward the very groups that have done everything to undermine our Democracy. They fear him for a reason, he isn’t owned, and threatens their corrupt system.
I agree. But the question for me is which politician can actually remove the Collectivists from the Executive Branch? I don’t think our choices will be limited to DeSantis and Trump.
Pokey, we see what you did there. Dropped a little Ron! being equal to President Trump.
Ron! being capable of actually moving the Collectivists from the Executive Branch??😂😳😂
No. I think they will be limited to DJT.
From Nov 2022…
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
DeSantis v. Trump wouldn’t just be about personalities. DeSantis is traditional GOP. Many Republicans like that! They liked the pre-Trump GOP and want to return to that.
But Trump ran in 2016 against GOP dogma because (as Ron Paul also showed) a big part of the base rejects it.
Cont reading full thread…
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1591814031844986880.html
It was a jaw dropping moment when, during the primary debate, Ron Paul quipped that Trump bought or donated to many politicians—then Trump shot back “well i donated a lot to yours. Paul shut up! Love that.
Wrong. They did not like it in 2016 or 2020.
Why now?
Absolutely no logic or deductive reasoning in your comment.
Really, why wold you think people want to go back to pre-President Trump GOP, especially after his success and exposing them?
Yup, no deductive reasoning in your comment.
It means we could care less about what the RINO/Elite/Never Trumpers think. We the people are a lot more educated and less influenced than they think. That being said they will never let DJT get the nomination, they will kill him first. I pray I am wrong I pray every day they don’t do it but we know how ruthless they are.
they would indeed kill trump if it came to that but with the supreme court, congress and states legislators all on board with the con…it won’t be necessary.
They all look like Botoxed and fake people except for Massie who has horrible hair.
Here’s what I think:
This really sucks because Trump should be finishing out his 2nd term right now instead of fighting off corrupt Republican douchebags for the nomination.
Wow. Makes perfect sense. Just never saw it laid out so persuasively. It’s all about stopping Trump.
Leaving aside the fraud element inherent in the election, the strategy behind DeSantis seems to be to push him far enough into MAGA territory to win the primary but lose the general without the plebs getting too suspicious of that outcome. That way they can say MAGA is an electoral loser when Lucy and the football come out for 2028, assuming there even is a 2028.
Bingo! Very succinctly and correctly explained! They need to keep pushing the line that “the people” want “moderates” and that is the only way we can win…and they promise us that “THIS TIME” we can trust them to follow through on their promises if we will only support “their” candidate!
Nah—a Republican is going to win in 2024 if there is an election!
Or, they could push RdS into the oval so Pooshaw would be the direct connect with Zilensky and WW3 to beef up the failing economies everywhere.
MAGA Catholic ✝️ 🇻🇦 🇺🇸
@daddy38456
60% of Ron DeSantis’ donations have come from donations of $50,000 or more. 54% of Donald Trump’s donations have come from donations of less than $200. Just 6% of these donations went to DeSantis. Ron DeSantis is backed by billionaires and the establishment. Here are some of them
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1592590163007262721.html
1:47 PM · Nov 15, 2022
Mostly what I see and hear at this early juncture, is a small segment of MAGA or MAGA leaning ‘thinking’ about DeSantis maybe, same with independents. However, most indies, almost all MAGA and a few Dems (surprisingly) are all behind Trump.
I hope I’m right it what I see and perceive. I think it is going to go more pro-Trump over time.
The question will be if Trump gets the nominee, what stops will be pulled out to stop him from taking office; and what will be the response of the populace if so.
Obviously that’s why Joe needs to run – the narrative will be: of course the man vote got the most votes for president beat the bad orange man again who conspired to overturn the election.
I saw where something come across that Trump or some group is working on ramping up vote harvesting: if you can beat ‘em’, join em’.
They will stop at nothing.
Ditto. Can’t be any more articulate. Money is certainly talking through these ventriloquist dummies. We need to name names- who are the downstream influencers? For example, DeSantis is on Mark Levin show tonight on Fox. I get the Fox part, but Mark Levin? So, it’s easy to see how pervasive the Stop Trump movement is.
levin was outed four years ago my friend. you’re first step to clarity (as opposed to being disillusioned) is to dump fox news.
Just found out Paul Ryan is on the board at Fox. Explained a lot of the lamestream bias at Fox to me.
Ron DeSantis is good at running Florida. Trump was great at his foreign policy vision but did not have the proper backing. Trump will cream DeSantis in the primaries, then ask him to join in the 2nd place if Ron doesn’t get stupid. If Ron does get stupid, then Trump will look at others…foreign events will dictate who he picks as Vice President.
Just talking nice should not get one elected if the voters truly want action not words…but when did that show up to be true?
I am looking at building a bomb shelter…
Get real.
Trump asking RDS to be VP is like asking traitor Pence.
Ron is good running Florida until the Floridians on this site tell you what you’re not seeing going on.
The rah rah Ron has been carefully manuscripted.
Are you catching on yet.
Nothing is as you’re seeing it. It’s how big money wants you to see it.
Yeah, Ron! is good for Florida, ……….
……..when he not away from Florida doing The Ron! Tour.
President Trump said that Ron DeSantis is his enemy. Not just political opponent.
I doubt and hope he would ask him for anything.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/desantis-to-host-donors-ahead-of-likely-2024-white-house-bid/ar-AA17PRZt
FTA: “In remarks at an event in West Palm Beach on Monday, Trump labeled DeSantis his “enemy.”
“I always say hit your enemy a little early,” Trump said. “Some people say don’t. But I say do.””
I remember when the 2020 election was stolen there was talk about ballot machines being manipulated off site via internet. One of the folk claiming this had taken place (might have been Sydney Powell) indicating that it was just being done for the benefit of Democrats, but also Republicans. They indicated it was basically a “pay to play” situation. If they were correct, DeSantis has the advantage from a funding standpoint, and also from the standpoint of having the “connections” to make the manipulation happen.
I hope what was indicated as happening in 2020 didn’t happen, but if it did, it doesn’t look good for us. Just got to keep our faith in the Lord, and trust and obey for there’s no other way.
Was not just being done for Democrats
my bad
I gave you a thumbs up for the name. Ohio Okie here. Howdy neighbor
Howdy
Remember Lindsay Graham? He was in a panic about losing and was begging for money and then all of a sudden he won by 10 points.
Suspicious cat.
Here’s another disturbing thought:
What makes you think we are going to have honest primary elections?
If the RINOs controlling the party apparatus won’t even fight for honest elections in the general, why would anybody in their right mind believe that they would conduct honest primaries?
My thoughts exactly!!!!
I think it means that we need a NEW MAGA PARTY!
THIS
It means the same thing it meant in 2016. Just replace Jeb! with DeSantis. Unless PDJT is forced off the field, he sweeps the 2024 primaries easily.
The far bigger issue remains unaddressed: we still have at least three electorally corrupted swing states. If PDJT could have a landslide victory stolen in 2020, you could run George Washington in 2024, and he would ‘lose’. Kari Lake just lost a stolen Arizona statewide election to a candidate who hardly campaigned.
All focus must be on restoring election integrity in those swing states, and in mastering the science of ballot collection. Nothing else should matter now.
I know it’s very early in the process but I don’t hear any America First from any of the DeSantis camp, including DeSantis himself. Lots of decrees about stopping CRT, drag shows for kids, immigration “reform,” and while the decrees touch (for now) much of what I agree with, they are but decrees. The left issues decrees, as well and short term it does have an impact (good or bad, depending). But decrees are reactionary, not visionary and usually not practical becasue they don’t take into account lasting effects or unforseen consequences. The anti-Trump camp does not believe that America, the Constitution, The Bill of Rights, The Declaration of Independence, freedom, liberty, and justice are in peril and until they do it’s just another re-arranging of deck chairs.
“Reconcile this inversion. What does it mean?”
It means the needs of the few (The Royalists) are not the needs of the many (The People).
It would be interesting to see how the two groups separate on support for Ukraine).
I don’t think the traditional political methods of influencing an outcome are as reliable as they once were. People are far less trusting, for good reason.
That depends on which people you mean.
Right now, Real Clear Politics shows 43.8% view DeSantis favorably, compared to 38% Trump. Yeah, polls can be manipulated, as anyone here will tell you.. But the folks out there aren’t compalaining about those numbers.
You can’t assess the whole electorate, even those who vote R, by what you read here. I wish we could.
That includes democrats and they hate trump.
Should be hard to manipulate the difference in crowd sizes (PDJT, Desantis, FJB) but one only needs a corrupt media……..psssh. And control who gets into the debates to boo PDJT and cheer RD. Piece of cake for these rogues
Ok, this is off topic, but I just had a great idea. For Trump’s next rally, he should have air-raid sirens blaring as he comes on stage.
Somebody get this to the big guy.
ROFLOL!!! Nice!!!
Jeb and Paul Ryan endorsed Desantis. Ryan went so far as to say out loud he would support anyone but Trump. With that kind of support, unless they cheat like Democrats in the primaries, they will find out who is yesterday’s flavor. The real key will be cleaning up voter rolls before the election. The really real key will be convincing God that we don’t deserve the kind of government we now have. He did expose the corruption in Trump’s first term. Will he answer our prayers to remove the corruption in a second term?
The only way election results go the Uniparty/Big Cons way is with institutionalized election fraud. The big donor media blitz is to convince you the results are legitimate.
Its all a distraction.
First, I don’t accept the mathematical premise. There’s not enough reliable polling on conservative voters supporting Trump 75-25 IF someone else happens to win the GOP nomination. Secondly, saying influencers and pundits support DeSantis over Trump 75-25 isn’t an equivalent figure to compare with the base voters at large, because you can’t compare a pool of 200 big talkers against a pool of many millions and call that an inversion. It’s false equivalence.
There are just too many “ifs” this early in an election cycle. Surely not all contenders have declared their intent. Each time a big name enters contention, it will change the dynamic of probability. And a lot could happen we can’t predict. Trump could have a heart attack or stroke. He does take statins, so he has a cholesterol problem. He could be indicted, and decide to concentrate on his legal cases. DeSantis could be in a car accident. Or his wife’s cancer might return. Either of them might withdraw for reasons having nothing to do with politics.
Your medical information on President Trump is inaccurate. According to his sworn deposition in NYS; the only PRESCRIBED medication he takes is : 1 Aspirin Daily.
Sorry to disagree, but Ronny Jackson said he takes statins. He prescribed them.
Also stuff for skin and hair conditions.
https://www.businessinsider.com/medications-drugs-trump-takes-2018-1
Written an take an two very different things.
The inversion represents the number of conferences who still haven’t realized the MSM is a part of the problem. These are people who love their country but are just to overwhelmed with day to day living to wade into the weedy mess that life in America has become.
DeSantis is not America First. Has he ever echoed the idea ?
Nope.
DeSantis doesn’t believe the 2020 election was stolen.
This week DeSantis offered up his weak tea immigration plan. An pablum to the uniformed GOP voter.
It has become a Daily chore blocking and marking as Spam all these new GOP Pacs for Desantimonius that were given our email information by the NRSC and NRCC. I can not even now block nrsc and nrcc or unsubscribe. They say you are unsubscribed but the next day they are back.
Very difficult to reconcile without deliberately narrowing the option to a single “consensus” candidate. Bush 41, Dole, Bush 43, McCain, Romney, all were “consensus” candidates due to their early acceptability to party activists and donors, then due to the fear generated by the other party’s extremism in the base. My guess is that most traditionalist. conservative voters voted for the Republican nominee, not out of any true enthusiasm, but due to their fear of the alternative. What is different now is Trump demonstrated that recent Republican nominees were never a real alternative and were never intended to be by the donor class holding the marionette strings for both parties. Trump was and remains the alternative. And every attack by the Left on him or, more significantly, every refusal of the GOPe to defend him and, therefore, their own voters has awakened the latter to the machinations of the political class. As a result, a “consensus” candidate becomes less and less acceptable to a majority of conservative, working class voters. They are figuring out who is in the foxhole first to avoid the heretofore inevitable bayonet in the back.
Trump represents Main Street America.
Desantis represents Wall Street America.
We know this, as Sundance has highlighted, by where their support and money comes from.
Not that hard to figure out, especially if you’ve spent enough time on this site.
As defined, We the People are getting “the bums’ rush” (a rude and abrupt dismissal) by the uniparty. They tried it on President Trump from before he took office, then during his office and ever since that. Now we see more clearly than ever before what we are up against. Sobering to say the least. Turn about is fair play.
One of the obstacles that Jeb! couldn’t overcome was the weight of the establishment GOPe. Base voters were not buying another Romney or McCain choice forced upon them. Given the behavior of the GOPe during the Trump administration, any candidate that relies on GOPe support will be given the Jeb! treatment and be seen as a false choice. Base GOP voters are now anti-establishment and won’t support any candidate they perceive as part of it.
Approximately 75% of the conservative, working-class, base voters are fed up with approximately 100% of the Big Con “INFLUENCERS” (Big $) and punditry class.
Simple. The big money con suffers from the same disease present in humanity for eons.
I know better than you do.
That’s what they think and have no humility to think otherwise. They suffer from the lack of belief that God shared his wisdom with ALL mankind.
He’s STILL sharing His wisdom for those who have eyes to see, minds open to understanding, ears to hear, hearts to believe and voices to uphold Him.
Pushaw is deep state in my opinion based upon my research. She has zero past before graduating college. There is nothing. So how does a person with zero past go to live in Russia and end up with McCain’s pal Saakashvili? Then end up with Nina Jankowitz and Zelenski?
Sundance is absolutely correct she is running an operation.
The establishment Republicans/ Globalists/ warmongers have no following among the people. They are holding on to their power desperately and corruptly. They know if they lose their power they may be investigated for real for 1. Treason 2. RICO 3. High crimes and misdemeanors. 4. Bribery, embezzlement, etc. 5. Jeffrey Epstein. 6. China.
Many of them would not have won elections for years if it weren’t for voter fraud.
I know democrats, liberals and MAGA. Don’t know anyone who considers themselves an establishment Republican or who likes Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney. They are out of touch.
Can you imagine wanting to hang out with politicians?
Neither can I.
Don’t Worry, There Is Absolutely No Voter Fraud, Anywhere, Anytime
By Kevin Roche
February 25, 2023
I am in the free state of Florida and running behind. Lot of posts coming soon. (Update–In my haste I neglected to point out that the authors’ estimate means 6 million Americans are double registered.)
Donald Trump lost in 2020 and he needs to stop whining about it. At the same time, there is a lot of voting fraud and impropriety in this country and calling people who point that out names doesn’t make the fraud go away. Running the system in a way that encourages fraud undermines trust in elections, the outcome of elections and our entire democracy. The voting process needs a major overhaul. This paper points out one of the obvious and I believe widely used, opportunities for fraud. In turns out that an estimated 3% of voting age Americans are registered to vote in more than one place. That is 6 million people who could vote twice or could choose to vote where they aren’t registered. SIX MILLION. Let that sink in for a moment before we move on. (NBER Paper)
The authors also tiptoe around the issue of dual voting; that is voting in both states. According to their estimate around 70,000 people voted twice. That is 70,000 fraudulent votes. Depending on where those votes are, they can make a difference in an election. And I have no doubt that the number is actually far higher than 70,000; but no one is checking, especially in Democrat-run states. I think 70,000 is not some small number of fraudulent votes.
Now this could happen by accident, someone moves and forgets to cancel their current voter registration. There is no consistent process by which states review the rolls and remove voters who have left the state. But it also happens intentionally. People have two residences and register in both states. College students do this frequently and intentionally. Guess which party that benefits. The study was about how these dual registered, and illegally so, voters decided which state to vote in. As you might imagine they tended to choose a swing state if it was one of the places they were dual registered. The researchers claim to infer that Republicans and Democrats are dually registered in equal numbers. I don’t believe that for one second.
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Again, why waste time worrying about ‘elections’ that are demonstrably corrupt. It’s not like anyone has done anything about it.
I don’t understand why an honest candidate would waste their time and money, much less why a donor would throw good money after bad by supporting anyone.
We haven’t even sued Rona Romney for defrauding those of us who donated to RNC when they told us that it would be used to defend PDJT and to protect our elections.
Is this a trick question?
We The People are the majority. We’re called “silent” because the big $$$ minority ten percenters own the media outlets, both print, tv, and social media and have the big mouths!
So we ‘surprisedly’, out of the blue, totally unexpectedly (to the pundits) elected President Trump.
Money isn’t everything. Remember Hillary Clinton in 2016 spent 1.4 billion dollars and lost.
Donald Trump bleeds Red , White, and Blue. His America first stance poses a huge threat to the establishment and those that seek a one world government.
It is truly a shame that a politician that loves this country stands out from the crowd .
Americans that love America and all that she stands for love Donald Trump.
Those that hate America and all that she stands hate Donald Trump.
Lines are being drawn, shouldn’t be hard for anybody to figure out which side they belong on.
You also have to think beyond 2024. If Trump is sabotaged by whatever means, then it is a near certainty that he won’t run in 2028 when he’s in his eighties. And by 2028 the world will likely be ‘reset’ or in a catastrophic post war condition.
So it’s all or nothing for Trump in 2024.
With all of the support coming out, DeSantis will announce how can I not enter the race? Unless Florida legislators change Florida law, it is my understanding DeSantis would have to step down as governor.
If he announces and steps down Florida will go blue, by design mind you. It’s the plan.
DeSantis and President Trump go toe to toe for the nomination. But it matters only for enabling the domocrat steal under the claim voters are weary of Republicans and their fighting.
Or something like that.
The majority of people in the US will know DeSantis is being pushed by Wall Street and big money as soon as the media start to put out their support propaganda.
Rigging the elections for Trump endorsed candidates was to show the donor class that Trump doesn’t have “it”.
The donor class are the ones who set it up that way in the first place. Your order of operations are wrong.
The GOPe-centric Republican Party deliberately dragged their feet and put in a halfhearted effort for many of the most critical races being run by MAGA candidates. The stench of that maneuver permeates the whole Republican Party