Let me qualify this post and question by saying this is something I have wanted to ask and write about for quite a while. I often ask this question to people I meet in general life discussion, and I am very interested to hear every response. Today is a great day to ask this…
Think back… So, you are living your life, doing what you and everyone familiar to you are doing in the ordinary and regular way of living your specific life.
Perhaps you paid some attention to the political comings and goings of things, perhaps not.
Perhaps like most comfortably invisible people you were just putting one foot in front of the other, and generally doing the day-to-day things that most would consider ordinary.
Then one day, for some unknown and likely not that consequential reason, something caught your attention. Something piqued your curiosity; perhaps you noticed something you wouldn’t ordinarily have noticed. Perhaps you heard something, or saw something, or were just in a situational space where something itched your brain as you looked at something, heard something or noticed something that just didn’t quite fit or sit right.
Perhaps that little something, or big something, caused you to look just a little bit closer at the story, event or moment with a little more curiosity than before. Perhaps you dug into that specific moment with a little more than a side-eye glance, and you noticed something. After looking at it a little closer, you realized that construct was not at all what it appeared to be on the surface.
From that moment forward, for the first time, you really started to question the ‘thing’ that was in front of you, and from that moment forward, you woke up to recognize that things around you, things you perhaps didn’t pay attention to before, were not what you thought they were. It was from this moment when you really started to pay attention and your political awakening began.
Question: When was that moment for you?
I am always amazed at the replies I get in real life to this question of when the individual awakening began.
For some it was at an early age, for others much later in life. For some it was recently, and for others it was a long time ago. However, for everyone there was that moment when it started, and it is completely unique to the individual.
So, on this day, Sunday February 19, 2023, a generally innocuous day in the grand scheme of things, I pose this question to everyone.
Yes, even all the CTH lurkers who read here and never join the conversation. The comment section is open for all replies with the general rules of on-line decorum still standing. Us old schoolers still use the early internet standards of on-line discussion, and CTH requests polite and civil conversation that enlightens, expands thinking and uplifts the audience.
I am genuinely curious and will be reading every reply because it’s really cool to see what that “moment” was for each person. I’m pretty sure the entire CTH community will also enjoy reading the unique replies to the question.
We all travel a different path. We all come from different, likely comfortably invisible, life experiences. And we all merge into this big melting pot of curious people who are looking deeply at the issues we face. Regardless of how each of us arrived here, the larger dynamic is that we likely share a common curiosity for the reality of our situation. It’s a safe bet to say that almost everyone reading this is in the top-tier of “high information” consumers.
My question is not what arrived you at The Conservative Treehouse, but rather what the moment was when you began looking around and realizing that things just didn’t seem to add up. That’s the origin of the journey. That’s the moment I am inquiring about.
Perhaps it’s a weird way of looking at CTH, but our fellowship is always what has been the most important aspect to this little corner of the internet. It’s not the content of the Treehouse, but the conversation on the porch that matters. You, the readers, friends, people who assemble here, are the important element. Not me and not the site admins.
That’s genuinely the way I have always looked at our fellowship, and that’s also the reason for every detail I put into keeping this little corner of the internet standing.
So, with that in mind, what was that moment in your life when you realized the social, political and/or media narrative, was not at all what it was presented to be?
Love to all,
~ Sundance

Two incredible catalysts for me:
1) politics wasn’t important to me until 9/11. Shortly after I discovered Rush Limbaugh. Will never forget him and will be eternally thankful.
2) discovered the treehouse right after Trump’s election and the MSM went full on bat shit crazy. Like Rush, I will be eternally thankful for Sundance and staff.
My parents taught me to never accept anything at face value. In the 1960’s that included what the talking heads at NBC, CBS, and ABC presented as the “truth”. After the JFK assassination I helped my dad paint and erect a sign on Hwy 80 between Midland and Odessa Texas, calling for the impeachment of Earl Warren and to get the U.S. out of the United Nations.
As an adult, the single biggest reason that started the process of really paying attention was NAFTA/GATT.
The thing I did not understand was that the left and right, conservative and liberal both seemed to really be pushing the same agenda. As I read and gained understanding about the treaties, I saw that politicians from both parties were starting the process through GATT to send U.S. Manufacturing Jobs to China. NAFTA was just a smokescreen to cover the real agenda. I knew that foreign lobbying and foreign special interests would help the greedy liars in D.C. while taking American Jobs and the wealth of the Middle Class. I also realized that my career in manufacturing would be affected.
I campaigned and worked hard for the Ross Perot organization because I saw him telling the truth about the NAFTA /GATT treaties and thought he was a true outsider.
Watching the crimes of the Clinton Crime Family as well as FBI Crimes and Coverups from the Branch Davidian Murders, the OK Bombing Coverup, TWA 800, and 9/11 showed me the who the real enemies of freedom were.
After not voting from 1992 until 2016, I proudly voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020 because he was the single person that had the ability as an outsider to affect the peaceful changes we needed to get the ship of state back on course.
One thing that I regret is ever believing in and registering as a Republican.
When Tyranny Becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.
Your parents taught you well.
My wife and I moved to Oregon in the mid 80’s. Moving from Montana to be close to family and cross transfer credits for my wife’s eduction We noticed that outside the metropolitan areas the people were made up more of where in Montana we came from. Conservative, friendly, hospitable, cordiale, the cities not so much especially the large University towns. Oregon having thrice the population of Montana we both participated in elections, primaries and the general. We both saw immediately that the three major university towns pulled sway over the entire states voting public. So out of the 36 counties, 3 controlled the outcome of the entire state. Eastern Oregon should join The Greater Idaho.
A classic tale of why the Electoral College is essential.
We have the same problem here in California. The rich counties around the San Francisco area and down the coastline and the Capital of Sacramento run the entire state. I was surprised to learn that a gal from the real Northern California from a county called Shasta is a leader in the group called “The New California.” This NC movement and s very interesting, but not sure how far they will succeed.
Many are rooting for New California success. Looking at the color-coded map of California and New California is a real eye-opener.
Sundance,
For me, It happened in stages.
In 1980, I asked my mom if she wanted to watch the gold medal hockey game. The US team had already beaten the Soviets. She refused, explaining that, beyond their fitness value and occasional life lesson, sports are entertainment; the preverbal “bread and circuses” and a sign of the collapse of western civilization. They are a distraction used by our dear leaders to hide that decline. “For goodness sake, Peta (Peter, in her Bostonian accent) why in hell do you think the Greeks invented the games?” I was 11.
Along with the moral lessons taught by my folks, there were business lessons. Most lectures took place in the car, with my dad, explaining the intentional destruction of the manufacturing sector of the US economy and the long term effects it would have on the shrinking middleclass. He explained the shift in the focus of industry. Once innovators whose goals were to make the best product and sell the heck out of it, we now lived in a world where designed obsolescence and lower production costs were at the heart of most public companies. “The window for ROI has shrunk. If you are a Senior VP or higher in a publicly traded company, your real job is to make sure that stock arrow is green, and pointing up. They can’t wait for the eggs, so they kill and eat the chickens.”
In high school I read Right and Reason, the Wandered newspaper and National Review. The seed already planted was germinating. It was apparent we lived in a world of Good vs. Evil. It was a simple time. People starved because their ruling class allowed them to starve. Even as a kid I saw the irony in the music industry gathering to bring attention to famine in the world, all while supporting the dictators who caused the hunger. By the 12 grade it was apparent the solutions to the world’s issues were simple and those trying desperately to make the solutions seem complicated were probably those most responsible.
Off to college in New Hampshire, where my class schedule was built around listening to at least the first hour of Rush. My days started at the library where copies of the Manchester Union Leader were free (cash was for important stuff, like beer) but at midday I was siting somewhere listening to El Rushbo on my Walkman. Reading Aquinas, Pascal and Aristotle, you see the connections between God’s Law, Natural Law and, hopefully, man’s law. Once you start to understand the structure of the world and how the perversions of those structures screw with the balance, you see Sundance’s “strings” and it is tough to look away. I got out of school by the skin of my teeth, but the education was invaluable. (Parents, remember that when your kid gets a D- in Ancient Philosophy)
The tumblers all clicked into place shortly after the Patriot Act was passed. As an early kneejerk supporter, I came to realize the destruction of liberty that so much control can cause. What was to keep me from becoming the terrorists? What happens if someone decides a white, 52 year old, traditional Catholic, husband to one, father of eight, with a few bucks in the bank and a size 12 EEE carbon footprint finds himself in the crosshairs? Give me a call, I’ll let you know.
PopeSPS
After reading a few other post I cannot stress the impact Ruby Ridge and Waco had in my formation.
Popesps
In the fall and into the spring of 1976 I had been bumming around Europe after graduating college with no plans other than partying like the moron I was. I came home and after getting tossed out of my folks’ house, I went couch surfing among the relatives and eventually found myself basically living in an aunt’s basement. She was a county clerk in a jerkwater county in western IL so, being the child of what my grandad called “Hitler democrats” she registered me to vote so I could vote for Carter. I fooled all of them though and voted for Ford. Four years before as a stoner college kid I had voted for the guy who promised to give everyone $1000 if elected. In the ensuing 51 years, I have only voted for one other democrat and he only because he promised to eliminate the office he was running for. My dissolute life and recovering from it is what taught me– there is no free lunch.
Oh my, I just realized my first vote must have been for FORD. I’d always remembered it as Reagan, but it was just after I had the single conservative government teacher in my high school after getting kicked out of my commie government class for being chatty.
My govt teacher made me a conservative by explaining [after-the-fact] zoning laws vs private property.
My parents were Democrats. Mom thought they were “nicer” and Dad was a journalism professor, so there you have it.
Anyway, Ford was forgettable. Recently read more on Watergate, how Agnew was ousted, Ford, a mere tool of Establishment forced in, Nixon ousted via Russiagate 1.0 except it was less fake …
The comments are so interesting. My awakening to the massive shift in our culture was during the years that SCOTUS began to re-define marriage, etc. The reaction of the mainstream media to the election of President Trump was a real eye-opener. I remember when it finally and irrevocably came to my attention the attitudes of news media towards Christian orthodoxy and worldview. The Covid controversy opened massive fraud and deception to my view. I see many parallels in our present time to the scourge of Evil in this world thru the agency of Communist ideology and practice. We need massive revival thru the agency of the Holy Spirit. We need to be praying that the Lord will raise up many to fight against this present Evil thru the agency and power of the Holy Spirit (read Asbury, Kentucky). God help us.
When I realized my son’s autism was caused by all the vaccines his pediatrician pressured me to give him. I have not trusted mainstream medicine since. As you go down the rabbit hole you realize all this is caused intentionally by the elites who love to torture children all
While making billions in the process off pharma poison. I can’t wait for the white throne judgement cause mama is looking forward to seeing God’s judgment poured out on these demons with wailing and gnashing of teeth. 😉
I could still kick myself for listening to a nurse friend when I was on the fence about vaccinating my children. I thought I could trust the medical professionals back then. BIG mistake!
Which brings to mind, the day at the orthopedic surgeon’s office, when the nurse was attending me and she was updating my medical records history.
She leaned in and said, “If you don’t want the government to know what you take or do with your life, don’t tell me about any vitamins, aspirin or anything else that is not documented now.”
And I have never forgotten that.
Fortunately now we have a prime care doctor (about 45-50 yrs old), who believes the same and does not document anything other than his prescriptions and our vitals.
Be very careful.
November 1963. Trying to make sense of the JFK assassination and subsequent events. Knowing in my gut “they” weren’t telling us the whole story. Ever since, I have viewed everything I read, see, or hear from the “official” sources in terms of “what aren’t they telling us this time?”
My awakening occurred during the Summer of 2015 when I heard about CTH and the “splitter strategy” during a discussion by Andrew Wilkow on Sirius XM’s Patriot Channel. I could never understand why unknowns would run for POTUS when there was no chance in hell they could ever garner serious public support (Bobby Jindahl, Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, et al). The tripwires that Sundance predicted with such incredible precision were all it took for me to see the strings on the marionettes. It’s impossible to unsee them now. Thanks CTH!
I’ve generally always generally questioned authority or anything that’s been packaged as “agreed upon by the consensus”. I’ve always assumed it was human nature to QUESTION EVERYTHING! I was surprised to learn that only 20-30% of us fit into that category. The rest are willing sheep. Even so, my consciousness began to stir when I was in my late 20’s or early 30’s (currently 48), but didn’t fully wake until 2010. I was a VP and GM for an auto finance company(used dealer floorplanning) in Central TX when gas hit +$4/gal and the “Cash for Clunkers” program rolled out. Those two factors set out and destroyed the used car market. Primarily trucks and SUV’s. As those are the TX Cadillac it wasn’t long before auto dealers began walking into my office, dumping their inventory of vehicles keys on my desk and telling me to go get them because they can’t sell them. The next domino to fall was my job when the company I worked for, folded under the pressure. During a repo at a dealers lot, I got held hostage by the dealer and his lot porter. Never felt more helpless in my life. I eventually BS’d my way out of the situations, but not wanting to ever be in that situation again, I stopped into academy sporting goods on my way home and bought my first gun ever. That was an interesting conversation with the wife when I got home. The purchase made me begin exploring the 2nd Amendment. This made me realize how much I wasn’t fought in school about US history and led to me re-teaching myself about our nations founding. The rabbit hole has just continued to deepen. The more I learn about who we were as a nation vs. who we are today, the more I understood how much we’ve been lied to, over and over again by our gov’t and media. It’s sad! A once great nation blazing a righteous path to a promising future for EVERYONE has cratered into a fascist technocracy we’ll be hard pressed to recover from.
The Iran hostage crisis in 1979 was the first time I noticed something “not right” with our country, or rather our government. I couldn’t believe that Iranian “students” (which was the way I remember the militants being described) could break into our embassy and kidnap Americans, and our government couldn’t get them set free for over a year! Until then, I had believed we were the greatest and the most powerful country in the world. I should add that I stll voted for Carter twice. I believed the msm stuff about Reagan. I was still blind.
That feeling that “things weren’t what they seemed” happened again after 9/11 when we were going to go into Afghanistan to “get Osama Bin Laden” if the Taliban didn’t turn him over to us.
I was a strong supporter of President Bush at that time and thought he would get it done quickly. After all, we were the United States of America, and some 3rd-world country should not be able to stand up to us when they were harboring a terrorist who had killed over 3000 Americans. (at least that’s what we had been told).
Then after we had been there for a short time, I remember hearing about a group called “the Northern Alliance”, and the focus changed from getting Bin Laden to helping the Northern Alliance find him. Now it sounded like we had changed our minds about what the mission was. Yeah, that made me wonder what the heck was going on.
Have always been engaged since the TEA Party days. I was nieve back then.
Was reading Breitbart.com comments after one of the 2016 GOP debates. They had a link to the GOPe road map article which outlined the whole plan to install Jeb and Cruz was completely controlled phony opposition. A real life red pill.
I need to preface this by saying that I had always been a Democrat and had never really given politics much thought. What I believed prior to my “moment” was the typical Liberal media talk that Rush Limabaugh was a raving racist. I had flown to another city for business and rented a car and when I turned on the radio and looked at the stations that were set into the car’s radio, I saw the Rush Limbaugh radio show was there. I was totally embarrassed to even listen to such trash, but I decided to listen to the racist redneck hate speech for myself. I was ashamed to even turn the radio to the station. I was totaly surprised to find it was nothing like I had been led to believe that it would be, in fact I found that I was in agreement with almost everything that Rush said. My “trust” had been broken and I felt lied to. I began to check out other things that the media was saying, and much to my surprise the things they were saying didn’t hold up to scrutiny. By the time Obama was running for President my eyes had been opened to such an extent that I was in full panic mode over the potential of an Obama Presidency. That initial crack in my prior belief system was made thanks to Rush Limbaugh, and I’m eternally grateful for that!
I believe that uneasy feeling began when I heard Candidate Obama make the statement that he wanted to fundamentally change our country. My sister introduced me to this website before the 2016 election. At first, I was still politically naive. The extreme one-side, harsh treatment of Candidate Trump made me start to wonder. Why was the Republican insiders, the media, and the Democrats so against this man? I have had a gradual awakening. Donald Trump awakened us to the media and its manipulation and the corruption in our government.
Seriously? When the Q drops came out toward the end of 2017. Yes, I KNEW ‘something’ was wrong after 9/11 but I couldn’t put my finger on it. When the drops came out and I started digging, you can imagine my surprise to find out how ‘bought and paid for’ our politicians were, not to mention politicians in other countries.
During Reagans presidency. I began to realize how corrupt and in lockstep the national media was against Reagan. They were vicious to him. Even when it was obvious that America was coming back strong from the Jimmy Carter disaster, they would broadcast only negative news. Plant closings, people laid off due to budget cuts in the government, environmental scandals, Reagan’s supposed trigger-happy approach to inevitable nuclear war, the Bitburg Cemetary visit.
Dan Rather and Leslie Stahl led the charge with unconcealable hatred on their faces.
My older brother was pursuing a degree in journalism at the time, and he would tell me how terribly biased his teachers were and how most of the students in his class were hive thinkers. He switched his major and went on to become a lawyer. Not a giant step up I used to tease him, but better than being propaganda prophet by a long shot.
The 1948 presidential election. I told my dad I was for Truman because I liked his name. He started to laugh and then called to my mom and said, “We have a damn Democrat in the house.” But I straightened up; my first presidential vote was for Barry Goldwater.
Had suspicions for several years during my 20+ years in the Navy but after retirement went to work as a contractor. Began witnessing first hand the corruption and incompetence. When Obama started pushing his agenda I knew we were in deep caca. Saw the solicitations for the millions of rounds of ammo being procured for his civilian agencies and knew then we were going to have to fight our way out of this extreme government stranglehold. The coup against Trump solidified my feeling and have been preparing ever since. Only two ways out of this situation, 1) the country returns our backs on satan and refocuses on our Lord God almighty or 2) fall completely under the rule of these communists until it is so unbearable that a full out revolution occurs. I personally am praying for number one!
I was just 8 years old when JFK was assassinated. Like most Americans at that time our family watched all the news unfolding in front of our TV for the days the country was shut down. While my father was shaving in the bathroom, us kids watched Jack Ruby break through the mobs of police officers escorting Lee Harvey Oswald and shoot him on live TV. The narrative we were supposed to swallow was that Ruby loved his President so much, that in an act of passion he came and shot his alleged killer. From what the news was reporting about Ruby, he seemed to be a very shady character indeed. As an 8 year old I had already seen quite a few gangster movies, and not that Hollywood portrays realism, but even at my young age, it just didn’t seem plausible that an underworld character would be such a patriotic American and loyal to his POTUS that he would decide to go to prison or be executed just to kill the person accused of Kennedy’s murder in front of a live, nation-wide audience. Even then, I suspected he was a hit man. “Dead men don’t tell tales”, as they say in the pirate movies.
Everyone knows the history of the tumultuous 60’s after JFK was murdered. LBJ brought us the Vietnam War, a war which most Americans opposed. Every night on the evening news we watched the body bag count and caskets being loaded onto planes. Peace protests broke out all over the country at college campuses and became more widespread. The Draft-dodger movement was born. At Kent State the National Guard shot and killed some unarmed college student protesters in cold blood. Then Martin Luther King Jr. and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated within months of each other. Everyone knew RFK would have likely been the next POTUS, post LBJ. We were to believe the same schtick of the “lone gunman” again. Yeah sure. Call me cynical, but it seemed like the good people who could have been great leaders who would do good things for our country were systematically being gotten rid of. And we were being lied to about the truth. Then Nixon got us into China. It was all supposed to be a great US charity mission to build them up from their life as poverty-stricken farm peasants…. You know the rest of the story.
Around 2010. I noticed the “mandatory education” I took at the hospital I worked at went from actual patient care to social is like gay marriage. I wondered why that was relevant since they were telling me what I “should” feel about it and what the hospital policy was. I thought well that’s irrelevant as a professional I don’t treat people based on their personal life, I treat them as a patient entrusted to me to treat to the best of my ability. I had no awareness at the time about Obama care and politics. I started paying attention to the hospital becoming more fascistic and infringing on my personal life. In 2015 when I was working in the ER I noticed there were more and more foreign people and they were all on Medicaid. Some nights it was almost the whole ER with people that didn’t speak English and needed a translator. I was in a room one night and the TV had Donald Trump on. He was speaking about all the illegals in America, taking advantage of welfare, not coming through the legal process. I started noticing everything he said was the very issues I had been thinking and didn’t think anyone in government noticed. I realized that many Republicans were badmouthing him. I thought well that’s a good sign. If politicians are against him there must be a reason. I never thought much about politicians other than they don’t care about the working class. After that I was blown away at his authentic behavior. He didn’t morph into a different person around different races, parts of America and rich or poor. Since then he has proven me right about every suspicion I had about the crooks in power for decades. Knowing the Bible since childhood I also see Bible prophecy in everything that has been going on for the last several years especially. I believe Trump is part of the waking up of the people and the choosing between good and evil.
The day I watched Bill Clinton being interviewed on television. After being a huge Reagan fan, I was terrified that someone so phony could be elected. As a couple the Clintons were the beginning of America’s decline.
Remember – boxers or briefs? I saw that in an interview and have never forgotten it.
I was Married in 1978 at the ripe old age of 21. It was the economic circumstances we lived through that I realized how manipulated it all was. Instead of our economic situation getting better it remained stagnant. Realized that experience on the job no longer mattered or even performance.
The decline started after Reagan when we realized the cards were stacked against us. We were to sacrifice in order to make the paying field more even …not just for racial difference… but also sexual preference and the foreign born imports.
Obama was the real eyeopener. Racial tensions that had faded were all the sudden visible again with the divider in chief being the cause. That period was by far the worst economic time of our life.
Questions during Obamas Presidency were starting to surface. Like the Birth certificate and the basic question of who he really was and did he care about this country or it’s people. I remember a statement he made during a speech….he said….we could no longer look to live off one paycheck that this is the way it would be. I knew he had no intention of improving our lives. The give away to the Big Banks leaving everyday citizens with no jobs , no homes, was also a big wake up call.
It was then I started to do a deeper dive and Trump had just announced his candidacy. I was with him from day one. In my research I also stumbled onto the CTH and learned many eyeopening things. Not only learned but many of my suspicions were confirmed.
Then Trump was elected and my hopes were high. Things began to turn positive but then 2018 elections happened. I suspected cheating. Things just didn’t add up. 2020 was crushing.
Biden happened and confirmed my worst nightmares. The decline and reveal is enough to take your breathe away. Despair is creeping in but I still hold on to hope. Hope that we can wake up the remainder of our sleeping citizens. Hope that we can overcome and defeat the cheat that is sure to happen in 2024.
For me it was the Hillary vs Barry presidential campaign, despite Hillary consistently garnering significantly larger crowds at events Barry got the nomination. That just didn’t make sense.
Obama first came on my radar during his race for the Senate against Jack Ryan. Lots of dirty tricks in that race. And of course, Obama’s big “we aren’t red states or blue states, we are the United States…”speech at the 2004 convention. At first, I thought the plan was to make him Hillary’s VP in 2008, but I wasn’t surprised to see him go for the big one – and take it away from Hillary.
Yeah, talk about election rigging. That dem primary was a good one.
Obama quickly used Big Tech to identify potential voters & then sent them messages to get out & vote. He has never shared his voter ID list with the DNC.
I was always interested in politics. I suppose I realized things were amiss during the Vietnam war when my fiancé was facing the draft. I couldn’t understand the rationale for that war. I also felt there was something more to the JFK assassination than met the eye. But the BIG moment came on 9/11. That’s when the scales fell from my eyes. Obama’s election and presidency shook me awake the rest of the way. And here I am – deplorable and proud!
I began to realize that our government was not acting in the best interests of this county and citizens was when this whole Covid lie came about. The mask mandates, 6ft. “keep your distance” rule, constant handwashing with waterless products that actually destroy some of the “good germs” that protect our bodies,forcing people to get innoculated against their will, actually causing people to die from this so-called vaccine, the constant bullying of government and its lackys to force people to conform to the will of someone else (government) that tend to destroy the normal derma of hand skin rather than “kill germs, fake messages to influence peoples belief that our so-called government wants us to believe the lies (too numerous to count here), that have been spoon fed to us and because they know whats best for all of us, that is when I began to see what was going on! I can think for myself, and given correct information, will make my own decisions regarding what is best for me! I can now look back many decades and see how very corrupt our government is .. It did not start out that way but somewhere along the line the lies became more evident and now, no longer as covert as they were many years ago. The election mess, parents being strong-armed or even arrested for standing up for students as being labeled terrorists, innocent people being put in jail or prison, and criminals walk free as do illegal immigrants. What a mess this is~ I know President Trump referred to the Swamp but I call it a Sewer. At least a Swamp has some ecological value. The sewer is filthy, through and through. Rat/snake infested. Thank you for this opportunity to “speak my mind”.
See above commentary.
I am 74 and regret to say I was naïve and trusting way too long. While there were many, many signs along the way, I did not want to believe the truth . It was gradual-like so many others listening to Rush and finding The Treehouse in 2018. Covid and the election was the turning point. As Sundance so often says here, once you see it, you can’t unsee it. The bombing in Nashville on Christmas Eve 2020 also played a part.
During Vietnam. Matter of self preservation since I was of draft age then. Didn’t become the rabid, slavering Constitutional Conservative I am today until Clinton, however.
Obamacare’s passage in 2010 was my wake-up call. It made no sense that the Fed Gov’t could mandate/force uninsured citizens to buy a certain level of personal healthcare, or face a steep penalty in the form of additional taxation. I was so disappointed in the bipartisan Congressional votes that passed it, the rolling over by SCOTUS to allow it to stand after the judicial challenges, and I really felt betrayed by Justice John Roberts’ twisted logic to find it constitutional.
It was about that time in 2010 that the Tea Party was quite active in fighting this Obamacare illegal tax and mandate, but there were not enough warriors for truth and common sense to make change happen. It made me think about how corrupted/co-opted even the “good guys” in Newt Gingrich’s House Class of 1994 (Contract with America) had become. Why did they nearly all succumb to the ways of the DC swamp? These were principled and decent men & women who let us down. I realized it was not necessarily a problem with integrity or ambitions, but rather “the system” they were placed in was broken, and even good people were doomed to fail in a broken system. A few years later I began hearing Mark Levin saying the same thing, and how it was time for a “Convention of States” to convene and bypass Congress to directly propose some common sense amendments to the Constitution since Congress would never limit its own power by “fixing” itself. That’s when I first learned about the Article V solution in the Constitution–it is the only peaceful, lawful, and constitutional way to rein in a tyrannical Federal Government, with the State Legislatures taking the lead. With most consequential government actions closer to those represented, we can hold our state officials accountable much easier than those in the bloated and centralized Federal leviathan. Learn more and sign the petition here: conventionofstates.com/?ref=18977
My father and all of my male family relatives of his age fought in WW2, most in the army but a couple navy.
Having that experience their conversations with each other were different than with the general public. I noticed probably at 8 or 9, I’m 64 now, and asked about it. Their answers were simple, believe what you see not what you’re told, then they gave me several examples to clarify. Not saying they were negative about things just aware
That pretty much put me on my path, I’ve deviated on occasion but always come back
I was a student at then-San Francisco State in the mid-sixties. The truth about that era and that place have been diluted in the wash of media suds that was there and operating at the time; that whole history is one I hope to retell in novel form – once I get two other novels completed.
Academic freedom, intellectual honesty, freedom of inquiry, abiding by academic disciplines such as basing one’s conclusions upon arguments drawn from reliable sources which were appropriately cited ruled the study of English in a department that rivalled Columbia University at the time as the two best in the United States. You couldn’t get by in that environment without steeping yourself in the traditions and history of English-speaking peoples throughout the course of western civilization.
I went to college in search of truth and beauty; wasn’t worried about a career, I knew that I’d survive – majored in English Literature, carried minors in Language Arts (general semantics, communication theory, everything from linguistics to propaganda technique) and Graphic Arts (painting, drawing, print making.)
The campus was a free-ranging cornucopia of ideas and discussion; most of the students commuted from cheap rent neighborhoods and lived off of summer earnings or part-time jobs, maybe both, and were there for an education – sans the extravagances of dorm life, the football team, frats and sorority girls. Those things were present as an almost make-believe sideshow for a minority of students whose parents could afford such luxuries for their children.
The best-informed debate I ever heard on the Viet Nam war was between members of the Viet Nam Day Committee, a socialist anti-war movement, and Young Americans for Freedom, Bill Buckley’s campus outreach. Discussion was unmoderated, heated at times, but never given to overspeak or interruption. Both side had assembled the same set of facts, basically, but had different interpretations. Up to 200 onlookers, going and coming on their way to breaks between classes, stood at the two side-by-side booths in front of the Student Union and listened.
The love generation, as we came to be called (among other things) was driven by disillusionment with the materialistic 50’s corporatism and gray flannel suit normalcy that left us feeling that something was missing; we found it in places such as an idealism also borne out of Eisenhower’s 50’s America that produced comic books promoting truth, justice, and the American way, the beginnings of Martin Luther King’s civil rights marches, and the Jesus movement. Ultimately what we were missing was something spiritual.
The corruption that highjacked of our idealism came later. Most of us saw it for what it was; some didn’t.
That was the period of my political awakening.
What I see, now, is the foment that was stirred in that era coming to full fruition – but in a culture where traditional idealism and knowing how to think have been denigrated.
As a student I read both Saul Alinsky and C. S. Lewis. I had socialism-based liberalism burned out of me then, but not the liberal academic tradition; I still cling to the values of equal justice and equal opportunity, and the intellectual disciplines of freedom of inquiry (and speech!) and intellec tual honesty.
I have always believed in capitalism as the only way to harness human nature into productive socio-economic structures, but also believe that there is too much of it. Corporatism and the almighty dollar have become drivers of morality – and that shouldn’t be.
I also started reading the Bible in earnest during my college years. Today I see the last days prophesies being fulfilled. The talking heads in the media haven’t a clue as to why the things they report are happening; as I watch the prophesies unfold I can only encourage others to put their trust in God, be wise, not fools, keep on loving, watch and pray.
I started paying
Attention when I noticed that it didn’t matter who you voted for agendas were continuing to be accomplished that were against the American people, so when Trump came along I instantly agreed with him. So his mean tweets meant nothing. He really did what he said he was going to do!! He slowed it down!!! The addenda’s go on!😟
Ross Perot. I learned it was all rigged.
For me it was the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups. The exact charges that they used to impeach and run Nixon out, President Zero was guilty of and Woodward/Bernstein had no interest in “getting to the bottom of it”.
Then watching the news and politicians turn so quickly against our military after 9/11, and W taking every single abuse without punching back told me that it was all a grand plan.
I started paying attention to politics and determined I was a Republican after 9/11. However, being “red-pilled” was more of a process that occurred during the Obama administration.
I read a lot of different topics but must admit “Behold a Pale Horse” by Bill Cooper left a significant impression on me. I realize this is THE ultimate conspiracy theory book and I didn’t think it was all true. However, it did change my perception on corruption and world leaders. I believe this book really started to get me thinking that I needed to dig deeper into what was going on and be much more skeptical about news from all sides.
Finding this site solidified the fact that I needed to continue to question everything, especially the Republican establishment. In addition, the Trump Presidency exposed the corruption to the masses in Washington DC. I knew things were bad, but it was jaw-dropping to see how far the powers that be (“TPTB”) would go to destroy Trump.
Cooper, CTH and Trump were pillars along the process of discovering how screwed up our government really is.
An honorable mention goes to Martin Armstrong of Armstrong Economics. I discovered him only a few years ago but his Socrates software and personal experience of being destroyed by big government corruption provide a unique perspective on the scope and history of worldwide corruption.
You got me interested in “Behold a Pale Horse.” I understand there’s an original 1991 version and a sensor Ed 2019 version with a chapter removed.
I don’t know about the 2019 ed but my initial reaction to reading that book was if 5% of this is true, we’ve got major problems ahead.
It’s been many years since I’ve read it and been thinking about diving in again. There’s also Cooper’s creepy 9/11 prediction that still floats around online.
I’d be interested in hearing other people’s thoughts on that book.
I perked up in 2008 when I researched Obama-the-candidate’s religious affiliation. I found an anti-American, hate-filled pastor, and discovered Obama had been under his “ministry”for 20 years. I was afraid of what type of “fundamental change” Obama was planning for America. I knew instinctually it couldn’t be good.
Jeremiah Wright. “America’s chickens have come home to roost.”
Arab oil imbargo. I was 11.
I distinctly remember my moment of awakening. It was February 2009, after I had voted for Obama in 2008. Why did I vote for Obama? 1) I was naive to the MSM and their lies 2) I was lazy and didn’t seek out truth for myself. Anyway, I read an article, the 1st of many, where Obama didn’t do what he had promised to do. It was at that very moment when I knew I had been lied to. And I was angry, at MSM and myself. I promised myself I would never be uniformed again. I would know exactly who and what I was voting for. From then on, I started seeking out alternative news media and I devoured everything I could find. I first found Rush and knew immediately that MSM had pushed another huge lie. He was a patriot who loved this country as much as I did. After that, it was Breitbart and the rest of conservative media. As has been said here, “once you’ve seen it, you can’t unsee it”. I have learned since then that not only are “they” corrupt, but they are the personification of evil. I could go on and on, but suffice to say, I took my red pill in 2009 and I’ve been awake ever since.
For my wife and I it was obama’s first term as president.
We had never voted. Republican, democrat, whatever.
BUT obama did what pericles said.
Obama’s first campaign for President – the realization the press was lying in unison… bigly.
The moment Obama was elected.
Too Big to Fail
I never paid much attention to politics and believed for a long time that the person was more important than the party. By the time of Obama, that belief was gone. All I could see about him was that he had zero qualifications for the presidency. I didn’t understand why people thought he was so wonderful, and I didn’t vote for him. Around the time he was re-elected, I had become convinced that he was actually evil.
Then, when Trump was running, at first I thought how crazy it was that this person who had been a public figure for nearly my entire adult life should be a contender for the presidency. But as I read about him I gradually came to understand why he was so popular. You could not have paid me to vote for Hillary (my dislike of her was cemented forever by her treachery in the Benghazi affair), so by late summer I knew I was voting for Trump. I thought, however peculiar it is that this bombastic businessman is the Republican candidate, better him than the alternative.
The other thing going on was the mainstream media’s universal hatred of Trump. I found that most peculiar, and grossly unjust. They were basically printing lies about him. I kept thinking, what would I do in his position, and knew that much of what he was criticized for were natural reactions to the extreme animosity he faced. I wanted to be fair to him in an atmosphere that was more unfair than I had ever witnessed. I dropped my subscriptions to The National Review and The Weekly Standard when they came out as so anti-Trump, and I started seeking alternative sources. I looked up what Trump had actually said and done in specific situations, and the lies told about him became clear. I never believed the Russia allegations or the Steele dossier: they seemed utterly fake and contrived. I paid attention to Trump’s actual actions as President, and not only was there almost nothing he did that I disliked, but the sheer number of his accomplishments while facing relentless opposition, even from his own party, was staggering.
Then came Covid. I was extremely skeptical from the very beginning, recognizing that although there was indeed a unique virus, it was engineered, and the response was about controlling people. By the end of the first year or so I faced the fact that our entire federal government is a gigantic criminal enterprise, and that most of the elected and unelected people—the President, Congress, the Cabinet, the Supreme Court—are either criminals, or bought by criminals, or blackmailed by criminals. This understanding came from my own thinking—no one I was reading then had yet said anything of the sort. I started reading CHT and gained much more understanding, and I found valuable links to other great sources in the comments.
Life is very different for me now, inwardly. I have no hope that anything positive will happen in this country, absent an overwhelming revival. I believe we are in the end times, and my only hope is in Jesus.
Mine started in the Carter years of the early 80s. I was graduatinf high school and my single mom lost her job due to all the insane inflation. So my first vote went to Reagan. I wrote a paper in college about President Reagan being the “right man at the right time”. I was totally impressed that he ended the 444 days of Iran hostage crisis – he set the tone from day 1 to not mess with USA.
I didnt pay more than casual attention to local, state, and national politics until Chicago Jesus (Obozo) won his second term. 2016 could have been a like 2020 if Crooked Hillary could have stolen more votes (just imagine how much worse today would be if the DemonicRats continued thier reign of terror without Trump interruption….
Like many Treepers here, I read every article on CTH since summer of 2015. I stumbled upon Sundance and this amazing site while trying to find out the real story behind Philando Calstile and Lavish Diamonds police shooting. Visit every day since…
“One person conditioned
to rule and control. The media sells it and you live the role”
– Ozzy, Crazy Train
Donald Trump was the moment (or event) that drove home that the media are a bunch of engineers.
I was not political, but leaned conservative since Obama. When a Hispanic coworker came in my office and told me how Donald Trump called Mexicans rapists, etc…I looked up the video with him there a saw the whole thing in context. He even admitted what he heard misrepresented what what was said. Throughout the election cycle people would say things to me (I worked A/R for a community college so mostly progressives who thought they were just liberals) and I would look up what they said they heard and they were rarely accurate. At some point YouTube recommended Mark Dice and Sean Hannity (🤮) and then my brother told me about CTH, which, among other things, helped me see the tic toc narrative on the right.
Sundance’s lesson on the globalist economy, which our own government, IC, and media are facilitating, is my go to article for sharing with people. It’s a good foundation for understanding how evil tries to control us.
At a friend’s birthday party, an attendee told me a few things about GW Bush and how unconstitutional this, that and another was. He was sincere, genuine but sounded like a crazy person-my country is doing what?! George eats, sleeps, drinks and lives the constitution and we’ve become friends over the years.
Shortly after, I ran for and won a spot on the county central committee, ended up taking over as chairwoman shortly after a year. Ran for state senate in 2006 and county commissioner in 2010-the Club for Growth worked hard against me-outspent me 5 to 1 both times AND, my senate race was one of the test cases of stealing elections. My hand to God, the board of elections called and claimed ‘they’ stole both elections using Diebold machines.
Started and ran a Tea Party group, responsible for making the Sheriff the primary law enforcement instead of the state police, term limits on our commissioners and English as the official language of the county.
Now, I’m waiting for my fellow Americans to wake up, stand up and do our duty. However, watching how quickly everyone hid under their beds over Covid and two years have passed for political prisoners in DC, I’m not very hopeful.
I love reading what folks write here, but it’s way past time of being keyboard cowboys. So, I’m going to be a bit bold…
TIME TO PUT OUR BIG GIRL AND BOY PANTIES ON AMERICA One or two people standing alone with only online words of support does not make a safe patriot. We get smacked down quickly when no one is standing behind us.
Exactly – well said
May, 2020. The response to Covid. Close small stores, but big-box stores could stay open. Can’t take certain meds; then the big vax push; some being able to protest together in summer ‘20, but must stand 6 feet apart elsewhere.
Hit me hard. Realizing I saw what others didn’t in my circle of friends. Then doing deep dives into our US history and realizing we’ve been manipulated as a country since the beginning of the 20th century by the elite.
As you say, Sundance, once you see the strings…..
Eyes are wide-opened now.
I’ve been fascinated with politics since I was a kid, and I watched the Sunday talk shows when I didn’t even fully understand what was being discussed. Those shows really set the foundation for my perception of politics. From there I had 3 milestones. The first milestone was discovering Pat Buchanan. Before Pat I didn’t know that a Republican could fight back, and not just lay down and let themselves be walked on. Then my older brother turned me on to Rush Limbaugh. Before Rush I didn’t understand that it was okay to laugh in the face of the looney left. I thought the left’s opinions had to be respected, but Rush changed that for me. The third milestone was Donald Trump. I had already figured out that the GOP was useless. But with DJT I finally accepted that the GOP is not just the Keystone Cops of politics, but that they are actively working against the interests of America, just like the Democrats. That has been my journey to awareness.
I am female, 3 days younger than PDT, brought up to question and basically distrust ‘power’ especially that of government. When my 5th grade teacher waxed ecstatic about how FDR ‘saved the country’ I told her my father despised FDR because he had ruined the country. Thus began my education in the consequences of taking the ‘unpopular’ side and I’ve done so ever since (and been right). That said, I did not know the extent of the rot until PDT uncovered it. I continue to be in ‘shock and awe’ at the stupidity of my (former) friends who believe the msm lies and have no appreciation for our Constitutional Republic and no understanding of the good PDT, the best president in my lifetime — and the legitimate president — did for this country and the world. I will never give up the last shred of hope, but it is sometimes almost overwhelmingly tempting just to give up.
Carole, your story is my story except that my awakening began with Ronald Reagan who was in my opinion the greatest President of our lifetime, until Donald J Trump. But with that said, even in the primaries of 2016 I didn’t vote for Trump. I voted for Ted Cruz and if I were going to vote Democrat, I would have voted for Tulsi Gabbard. But boy am I glad wiser heads than mine prevailed. But to the chagrin of some in my family, I’ve been on the Trump Train ever since. And I shudder to think where this country and even the world would be today if it weren’t for President DJT. It is for the sake of generations behind you and I that I refuse to leave the Trump Train. I see DJT as God’s David for this day.
Ted Cruz isn’t even eligible to be president, as he’s not a natural-born citizen. Neither is Klamidia.
Yes, but notice how the ENEmedia routinely ignores the US Constitution in every respect? The lack of pushback from American citizens on this point is VERY concerning, to say the least!
No MAGA worth his salt should ever speak about “our democracy.” Not a one. USA is a Constitutional Republic and we had better start acting like one!
The essence of “what opened my eyes” to “when I realized the social, political, and media narrative was not at all what it was presented to be was from August to October 2015. A process.
I’m knowledgeable of quite a lot of things, politics included. And I knew there was corruption; there was collusion between parties; there was something that seemed just “off”. Something that I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but was there. Like a glitch in our reality.
The process came with DJT, and how I started viewing him to how I ended viewing him. That process changed how I see the world, media, politics, and even business.
The process started because he said the things I though, but then the media distorted the things he said, which I though. And that led me down the rabbit hole. Breitbart was first that got my attention out of this in Aug/Oct 2015. I made an account on Gab and that’s where I got more info on the “thing”. Then there was the Pizzagate and the Dem leak that got my interest.
I avoided CTH for a few months (sorry Sundance) because the articles were too wordy and long. Until….. I read my first article from beginning to end. It was an article on the Splitter Strategy. Then I couldn’t stop, and for a week I read all the backup articles Sundance wrote over the previous months or more. A small book-like of resources. It was good some articles had links to relevant previous articles which I read.
Since then I probably read 90% of his articles. Skipping the ones that are too similar to past ones, or too dry. But yeah, CTH had a tremendous influence on my view of this reality.
So, I’d say, it was DJT that got the ball rolling (and the aggressively pushed narrative by the press) and CTH that closed the deal.
I’ve always been a Conservative, on the Right, considering I originate in one of the ex-Communist countries. I’ve always known of RINOs, and the Collusion between parties. But these things were in front of the Curtain. CTH lifted up that Curtain and I saw what lay behind it.
Thank you DJT and Sundance!!
When Sarah Palin was named to the Republican ticket in 2008.