Let me qualify this post and question by saying this is something I have wanted to ask and write about for quite a while. I often ask this question to people I meet in general life discussion, and I am very interested to hear every response. Today is a great day to ask this…
Think back… So, you are living your life, doing what you and everyone familiar to you are doing in the ordinary and regular way of living your specific life.
Perhaps you paid some attention to the political comings and goings of things, perhaps not.
Perhaps like most comfortably invisible people you were just putting one foot in front of the other, and generally doing the day-to-day things that most would consider ordinary.
Then one day, for some unknown and likely not that consequential reason, something caught your attention. Something piqued your curiosity; perhaps you noticed something you wouldn’t ordinarily have noticed. Perhaps you heard something, or saw something, or were just in a situational space where something itched your brain as you looked at something, heard something or noticed something that just didn’t quite fit or sit right.
Perhaps that little something, or big something, caused you to look just a little bit closer at the story, event or moment with a little more curiosity than before. Perhaps you dug into that specific moment with a little more than a side-eye glance, and you noticed something. After looking at it a little closer, you realized that construct was not at all what it appeared to be on the surface.
From that moment forward, for the first time, you really started to question the ‘thing’ that was in front of you, and from that moment forward, you woke up to recognize that things around you, things you perhaps didn’t pay attention to before, were not what you thought they were. It was from this moment when you really started to pay attention and your political awakening began.
Question: When was that moment for you?
I am always amazed at the replies I get in real life to this question of when the individual awakening began.
For some it was at an early age, for others much later in life. For some it was recently, and for others it was a long time ago. However, for everyone there was that moment when it started, and it is completely unique to the individual.
So, on this day, Sunday February 19, 2023, a generally innocuous day in the grand scheme of things, I pose this question to everyone.
Yes, even all the CTH lurkers who read here and never join the conversation. The comment section is open for all replies with the general rules of on-line decorum still standing. Us old schoolers still use the early internet standards of on-line discussion, and CTH requests polite and civil conversation that enlightens, expands thinking and uplifts the audience.
I am genuinely curious and will be reading every reply because it’s really cool to see what that “moment” was for each person. I’m pretty sure the entire CTH community will also enjoy reading the unique replies to the question.
We all travel a different path. We all come from different, likely comfortably invisible, life experiences. And we all merge into this big melting pot of curious people who are looking deeply at the issues we face. Regardless of how each of us arrived here, the larger dynamic is that we likely share a common curiosity for the reality of our situation. It’s a safe bet to say that almost everyone reading this is in the top-tier of “high information” consumers.
My question is not what arrived you at The Conservative Treehouse, but rather what the moment was when you began looking around and realizing that things just didn’t seem to add up. That’s the origin of the journey. That’s the moment I am inquiring about.
Perhaps it’s a weird way of looking at CTH, but our fellowship is always what has been the most important aspect to this little corner of the internet. It’s not the content of the Treehouse, but the conversation on the porch that matters. You, the readers, friends, people who assemble here, are the important element. Not me and not the site admins.
That’s genuinely the way I have always looked at our fellowship, and that’s also the reason for every detail I put into keeping this little corner of the internet standing.
So, with that in mind, what was that moment in your life when you realized the social, political and/or media narrative, was not at all what it was presented to be?
Love to all,
~ Sundance

Always paid cursory attention until President Reagan was elected. There was so much vitriol against him spread by many of my coworkers that I really started paying close attention.
I did not care too much for President Bush 1, but I agreed with pushing back against Iraq incursion into Kuwait. I admired him for not escalating once Kuwait was liberated but I did not like the “New World Order” comment.
After the fall of the Soviet Union is when I really noticed the US getting involved in many other country’s affairs.
A real wake up call about the corruption in politics came when the Clintons arrived on the scene. I paid close attention when Clinton co-opted the Republican ideas that were popular. Hillary is such a prolific deceiver it boggles the sane mind.
IMO, that is when things really started to go downhill. Up until recently I have always looked at the individuals and not so much the party affiliation. Now I am sad to say, there are very few, if any, politicians I trust.
My awakening came in stages. First stage – Pat Buchanan – what he said made perfect sense. Second stage – JFK assassination. In 2013, the 50th anniversary of the assassination, PBS replayed the entire six-hour funeral and I watched it all. Afterwards, to my surprise, they allowed some JFK researchers to tell us how the assassination really happened. I jumped up and said to myself “I have to do something about this.” I became involved. The third stage – 9-11. At first I was duped and believed the narrative. Then at a JFK conference someone was giving away well-done DVDs about the undeniable proof that it was an inside job. I think it was around that time I found this site and then Trump came down the elevator and confirmed it all.
I only recently realized that 9-11 was not according to the narrative (and I was there). The collapse of Building 7 bothered me but I didn’t focus on it. A few months ago I watched a great documentary from quite a few years ago. Watching the collapse of all 3 buildings in slow motion with analysis led me to the belief it was controlled demolition. Once you reach that conclusion, a Pandora’s box opens up.
For me the awakening happened in 2007. Just home from the war i saw Obama selected rather than elected. College girls lost their minds for his campaign. I had to jump out of a moving vehicle because i wasn’t ENTHUSIASTICALLY voting for Obama, just reluctantly.
It was obvious that he was lying about the War stuff because i was just getting out. It just got worse from there.
Once I started closely following the 2016 election. When every corrupt institution turned on Trump, I knew something was wront
I remember when I first ‘smelled a rat’ which eventually sucked me in. After the 94 elections the Big He began to make deals with Newt. The media was furious with Bill and ripped him for these deals, noting that Bob Dole was a good republican and Newt was a bad republican.
Of course what was happening was EXACTLY how it was taught in schools. The people, thru their votes, told Bill to work with Newt and he did. I couldn’t understand the MSM’s position and it got worse when the entire MSM rushed to endorse Bill over Bob Dole in 96, despite the daily ‘you’re doing it wrong’ critiques of Bill and the ‘you’re doing it right’ accolades given to Dole. Made no sense to me as, at the time, I had no inkling of how crooked the media had long been. Nearly 30 years later MSM perfidy is a given, of course, like the sky being blue.
The cabal was probably always in charge, and playing for bad actors to boot. Ironic that science fiction dystopias, the more unbelievable the better, have been more factual than the daily newspaper since that time. Only fools and Democrats believe what they read now.
Admin, can you take my last name off?? My laptop automatically added it and I can’t get it to edit!!**** Although I was raised in a conservative family, I was very liberal in my youth due to influences of my schooling and friends. It took me until i was in my 30’s to realize the government didn’t care about me or any special circumstances, like I though the difference between Republic and democracy was all about. I was a nurse in Calif and the hospital I worked so hard for passed a mandate that flu shots were required to continue employment. No exceptions. I’ll just state that I don’t do ‘prophylactic’ meds and leave it there, so I allowed them to fire me so I could have a cushion between then and the next job. I went to a registry and was getting used to moving from assignment to assignment when this flu shot idea took hold in the state, and next thing you know, it’s law and I’m no longer valued for my work and education over a precaution that often doesn’t even prove effective, and I’m never sick so why worry anyway? I researched, I made calls everywhere, I went so far as to contact my local rep, and eventually my congressperson, trying to find some help, but nobody cared that there was someone who couldn’t fit the mold being left out. That was it for me, and I retired from nursing and began looking at everything else I’d thought that turned out to be mistaken. I ironically found a job that allowed me an exception working for a local chamber of commerce, but eventually left CA for a state that wasn’t yet so restrictive, where I still reside, although lately it’s getting pretty blue here lately. My free time is spent between my grandkids, and researching and educating
I may be needing to find a new primary doc and oncologist in the next couple of years. I’m thinking of questions I would like to ask in our preliminary interview. One would be, “Has your personal experience and professional training equipped you to determine whether I am male or female?”
Sounds like you did what you needed to do at each decision point. What a mess we are in.
For me: when the GOP, when holding the Senate, Congress and White House – and had every opportunity to destroy the Democrat Party as a political force due to the attempted coup that was easily demonstrable if any genuine effort was applied- worked against their own duly elected President in every which way they could, either actively or passively. It is the GOP that allowed the disaster we are experiencing now, as the Democrats would never have been able to do what they have done without the complicity of the GOP.
The scales fell off my eyes and I had to re-assess everything I thought I understood about the political realities.
Stories of Mena, then Arkancide, Fast and Furious, ineptness of McCain and Romney, then the election fraud in 2020 really just gave a confirmation to suspicions.
One day I hope to see pedogate abusers in prison, truth about Maggie Nixon, and proof on every politician who’s been paid by China. These people have taught me that a conspiracy theory is just when you believe what you’re told by the media. so many lies
I don’t know anything about Maggie Nixon. I looked her up and discovered an actress from “The Green Book” and some little girl who met Obama. If anyone can enlighten me, please do so.
Living through Watergate, the assassinations of John & Bobby Kennedy and MLK, the Vietnam War, and the moon landing.
John Kennedy’s assassination was the pivotal point. I was 10 yrs. old and in 5th grade. Watching all the adults weep, teachers weeping, the constant TV coverage. Hearing the adults whispering and seeing the grave concern on all of their faces as they desperately tried to conceal it from the children to protect them. No matter which friend’s home I went to, it was the same everywhere. Going to school and having the nuns roll in TV sets into the room for the 1st time. How could one not be impacted?
Best Evidence by David Lifton changed my life and my way of thinking about the Kennedy assassination. Fantastic book. Could NOT put it down.
I liked the part where he was reminded of Ayn Rand and ‘contradictions cannot exist.’
It was a gradual awakening for me starting with reading books on subliminal messaging and manipulation in advertising in the late 60s. Things are not always what they seem.
When I accepted Jesus as my Lord in the early 80s my eyes started to open. Not only spiritually but to what was happening in the world around me. There are numerous ways that was manifested in my life. I give thanks in the discernment brought on by the Lord.
First realizing my beliefs were more aligned with republican than Democrat ideas and the democrats were using those subliminal manipulations to create a false image of evil towards the right. That was one of my first changes.
Second I started seeing the news manipulating what they were reporting. This was in the form of CNN and reports of hijackings in the middle East. I was doing contract work over there and would see the initial reports on an incident was the most accurate and truthful but would be changed over the days following.
Third. As a Christian working in Saudi Arabia, that reference vs Islam was quite eye opening in how they deal with the world. i.e. Their ‘peace’ is submission. Do not underestimate their persistence.
Underlying all was early reading on Marx and Engels and where their writings came from and wanted to lead to. I could easily recognize what was driving the Clintons and even more so Obama. Overall the amount of deception these days is incredible.
Wow, this has got to be the easiest and yet most complicated simple question I’ve ever been asked. I say this because there wasn’t really 1 moment where everything became clear – it was more cumulative than that: although, there was a moment when the proverbial dominoes began to fall.
Years ago I read a book called “Powderburns: Cocaine, Contras & the Drug War”, which was about a fellow Marine who after service joined the DEA and did time in S. America. He noticed cocaine being loaded into mil airplanes and tried to notify George Bush and got the boot, essentially. (terrible summary, but for brevity)
I was already anti-Clintons, but note that at this time I was a Bill O’Reilly/ Fox News righteous and holy’r than thou Republican, so this really challenged my view of Good vs Evil. This dove-tailed into Mena, Arkansas and the realization that elements within our own gov seeded the Nation crack epidemic. Wha?, How, I mean, could this really be?
Then came Obama, ol beelzebub himself, and his side-kick Michael… wow… What’s going on? Moments after his supposed birth certificate was dropped on the WH site, my buddy and I (who was a very talented graphical artist) immediately tore it apart and realized that there was NO doubt that it was a composite forgery.
I naturally went full on Libertarian ( I mean, who would want to be a D or an R at this point) and lost all faith in my sense of reality as presented to me since birth… only to realize that this is/was by design. Koch Bros- open borders, no thanks. There’s such a thing as full spectrum dominance and market capture. Another punch in the gut, as Oswald said “Im just a Patsy.”
I could go on and on and on, as I’m sure we all could. Suffice to say, I came to understand that we are viewed as cattle to be milked and discarded by the so called elite. One thing that I do very much value from this painful journey is the actual realization that it is truly We The People that matter, and we matter because we were created by a God that Loves us.
Our purpose is NOT politics nor to serve politicians, but to serve our Creator and his purpose. Politics should only be a means to this goal – Love and Righteousness. Sometimes this means war. Something my Dad told me a long time ago, “Son, if you get punched in the nose, you’re in a fight whether you want to be or not.”
We’ve been punched in the nose for far too long.
I’ve been doing computer graphics for close to 40 years. That was a horrible attempt at forgery. It was the equivalent of presenting a childish crayon-on-paper drawing and trying to pass it off as the authentic Mona Lisa painting by Leonardo.
It was such a blatant forgery. It drove me insane trying to explain to others, who had 0 understanding of layers, that this was the case. It made me sound crazy – and I think there’s a there there, if ya know what I mean. The veil wasn’t quite as peeled back as it is today, so it just served to create more division amongst the ranks – gotta hand it to them, they do understand how to leverage these sorts of things.
You reference to “cattle” brings to mind a flight from NY to GA late 90’s, early 2000’s. IT was so busy, crowded and we were literally being herded as cattle would be herded to, in and around, an auction house.
The gal in front of me, turned and commented on the airport staffer yelling at us to get in and stay within the railing. I said” I feel like we are being herded into the cattle cars to be sent off to Auschwitz.” She nodded and said “truer than we think.”
I was in the military back then so I prob overlooked stuff like that b/c I was so used to it… LOL You’re totally right.
it was the spring of 2020,
when, with total disregard,
the medical establishment tortured,
starved, and murdered my dearly beloved,
all in the name of covid;
and my powerlessness to stop it, or even be there.
that is the exact moment when all i thought to be true
was instantly and irrevocably erased.
July 17, 1996.
Watched the news as it unfolded that evening, eye witness reports from fisherman and boaters of missiles being shot, CNN (I know, I know, different era though) live reporting of the Air Traffic Control station in Boston having the missiles on radar and the tapes being collected for the investigation.
The next day, nothing…swamp gas…reflected by the low clouds…something, something…bad wiring in the central fuel tank.
Saw the lie unfold live…questioned everything after that.
Here is an earlier one I just remembered….
After 9/11 Toby Kieth wrote a kick-ass song “..with a boot up your ass its the American way…” among the lyrics.
Peter Jennings would not allow that song to be played.
I knew right then that something was up, that we were being played.
The rest has been sorting how who the culprits, The Universal Plague of Makind, are.
Mission accomplished.
Here ya go – some reference of course to Afghanistan. which ended disastrously courtesy of JokeBiden – but I still like the song and Toby Keith’s presention
Hueys?
I was senior in high school with some friends at a neighbor’s one evening. Ronald Reagan was in Pennsylvania talking to people outside a store. Next thing I knew my Aunt Flo was talking to Ronald Reagan on tv. It happened so fast. From then on I followed politics and realized my values are conservative. Funny thing is all my cousins, Aunts and Uncles in Pennsylvania are brain washed democrats. They stuck up for bill clinton and gave a pass to the rape allegations he was accused of. That’s ok because Family & God are #1.
Brain washed democrats – they continue to prove it after Fetterman’s election.
I don’t believe fetternan won or bidden or kattie, hobbs in az. These days the rigged elections are in our face. What’s worse is the corruption a lies exponentially worse.
I was a young teenager in the mid 1960s listening to my father talk back to the television news programs, specifically about the Vietnam war. He lost his faith in government narratives when he realized how truly cruel and useless the internment of the Japanese-Americans (1940s) was. He was a skeptic forever afterwards, and indirectly passed that skepticism on to me.
FDR. Scumbag!
Wow, Sundance — what a spark you have lit!
So far, the comments are fascinating — and I will set my books aside — in order to read all of them.
Thus far, I find myself nodding my head ‘yes!’, more often than not. It will take some time to get thru all of the comments, and none are to be ignored.
Personally, I do not believe I have had ‘a spark’ of awareness. Instead, my journey into ‘questioning everything’ came thru osmosis.
I grew up with it. My Grandfather was a Township Commissioner. My father kept his pulse on ‘world events’ constantly, and it was from him that I first heard the words ‘Trilateral Commission’, and ‘New World Order’.
When Jimmy Carter was elected, and as a teen — I then knew that that was not good thing. So, I swore off Peanut Butter for a year.
So for me, ‘it’ has always been there. I watch, listen & observe. Yet, I learned early on to keep my opinions to myself. It is only on The Conservative Treehouse where I am able to voice my opinions.
I’ve watched trends, and find most of them to be destructive for humanity.
For example, the television was entertaining in the beginning, but then became an obvious ‘mind-control’ tool. The television created mindless zombies, and I find it extremely irritating.
I worked in an office environment when Smart Phones came ‘on the scene’, and I watched those phones change people.
My co-workers became addicted to those devices, and they seemingly could not walk down the hall; use the bathroom; or participate in a meeting without also becoming dependent upon their phones. Their Smart Phones became a part of them, and they were lost without them.
So, my awareness of ‘the politics of the world’ began at a young age. My rebellious nature has allowed me to not succumb, as in I do not own a television nor a Smart Phone — as I try my best to not be influenced, but to instead make up my own mind.
I will add this addendum.
My belief, is that The Conservative Treehouse is a place to gather — for those of us who share a common internal belief & mindset — yet — our personal universe does not allow an expression of those beliefs. We are pretty much not understood by those who are close by, so we stay silent.
So, we gather here. I believe we are many; we are legion; and we wish that more were able to comprehend & understand.
We are not alone, yet oftentimes it feels that way.
Thank you Sundance.
Four major awakenings for me:
-9th grade (1996) was really getting in to Classical, US and Western History and Geo-Politics. My, At the time, apolitical parents signed up to receive Newsweek and US News and World Report to feed my burgeoning interest. After several issues of both I independently noticed that 100% of their opinions on 100% of all topics, domestic issues and foreign relations, were always that the USA was the bad guy, wrong, terrible, etc. I couldn’t understand this; why would fellow American criticize our wonderful Nation so much? Why did their opinions make no sense to me, and always seem to support weird and crazy viewpoints? It was so obvious. What they didn’t realize is this fact started my understanding of leftism and demented people. Good and Evil were easy distinctions for me, and I was clear they always supported division and evil and anything that makes Americans not be proud of something we should be proud of.
-In AP US Government class in 11th grade (‘98/‘99) Had the brainiac , goody two shoes girl that I competed with for top grades, in my class (I was a great student but far from a goody goody, so we were academic peers but I was a bit of a troublemaker) and the teacher started a unit discussion on Nuclear weapons and US nuclear policy, MAD, etc. This girl strongly advocated for US unilateral nuclear disarmament and I thought that was the most stupid, moronic, insane thing I’ve ever heard. Only a true simpleton would think that policy would lead to anything other than Russia , China and all the other bad guys taking over us and the world. The teacher made us go at it for weeks, weeks I tell you (apologies to all the other students that had to deal with this) debating for the full class. He favored her POV, of course. But, the amount of NY Times and other MSM articles she could cite supporting this insane policy made me see that the people in charge of all these things simply were traitors, full stop. In the end, I won the class to my POV, so ha!
-Barrack Obama getting elected and the Republicans choosing John McCain. This did not compute on either front. I knew my world was a lie because this man could never be elected in the America we learned in elementary and middle school history and civics classes.
-Like many here: Trevon Martin. My skepticism led me to find CTH, and realize the whole sham was even more pervasive and officially government sponsored than I had even suspected. I knew then the Nation was already lost.
I still mourn the real USA I thought we lived in, every single dang day.
“I still mourn the real USA I thought we lived in, every single dang day.”
Me too…. I mourn that our Children will never know the sweet delusion, but we have a chance to create the reality that is even better. I believe this with all of my heart. All is not lost.
Regarding hating America, I’m growing to hate current America because of the CIA and the State Department. Our venture in and manipulation of Ukraine is the latest, and it feels like the last straw to me.
It seems once the CIA was created, we did everything wrong.
’08 primary, when the long knives were out for Ron Paul. And deep in the back of my mind, watching Pat Buchanan and Alan Keyes repeatedly being pushed to the side when a lot of the things they were saying “should” have been part of the Republican platform since before Bob Dole ran.
Then Juan McCain didn’t actually try to win. Making a mockery of his own campaign and refusing to substantively criticize Obama it became apparent the fix was in.
Reaching adulthood during the Clinton/Bush II era there were hard economic times. Bush’s re-election in ’04 gave me some hope. I knew for a long time state media were against the American people. But it wasn’t until ’08 to ’10 I began to see it was all the same party, playing the same game with slightly different wrapping on it.
I believe my really noticing that there was something going on was when Leon Panetta traded Fort Ord for the establishment of the Monterey Marine Sanctuary. After it was approved amazingly Fort Ord came up on the base closure list and was closed in 1994 under Bush.
It was also when I started believing my vote didn’t count if I didn’t vote Democrat. The whole thing smelled fishy but nothing I could put my fi get on specifically.
Over the years the idea of fixed elections kept growing because it didn’t matter where I was living in California my R vote did not count.
In 2010 I moved to Phoenix which was still pretty solidly red. Over the next 6 years liberal democrats began pushing in big time with terrible policies. They began winning in solid red areas. Crime began spreading out to the suburbs. That’s when I’d had enough and joined my kids in Mississippi.
My national votes still don’t count but local ones do. The first year here our entire city council changed their voter registrations to Republican. There is a push on to eliminate vote tabulator machines in our county. Work in progress.
I would like to be non partisan but then I wouldn’t be able to vote in primary elections. I will not monetarily support any candidate through the RNC ever.
It’s becoming clear that elections in California are fake and have been for quite a while. 2018 was telling.
Lots of moments from Reagan to Obama when I knew things were messed up but I stayed in my camp and fought the ideological fight of my team.
The full clear eyed wake up came with the ascension of Donald Trump. He was the gift that revealed clearly the view my betters have of me perhaps most crystallized by Hillary Clinton’s basket of deplorables statement. Though that best said it the most eye opening actions were those of the party I once affiliate with. The republican’s distain for me was the beginning of the death of many of my institutional and individual heroes. I was almost 60 years old and experiencing a fundamental disorientation from letting go of my well established mirage of a worldview. It has been a bit sad, the cause of some shame for not seeing it earlier but mostly liberating to seeing it now.
Thanks Treehouse for providing a wonderful tool to help dismantle blinders that made me part of the problem and for providing questions and insight to help build true understanding into these matters. I can’t say it’s easy to see all I see now but I am now able to help others. I also know God is sovereign and when my new eyesight brings dread for the possibilities I focus on the Lord and His promises.
1972. Two months after getting a 3 month early out of USAF to go back to college I switched my Major from Business Administration to Political Science at CSU, Sacramento. With all of the political and cultural drama seemingly coming to a head with the Vietnam withdrawal leading the way I found myself questioning why I had given four years of my life to this country just to see the politicians use the war, start to finish, to further their own careers that, to this day, split the nation in two costing the nation 59,000 young people and the moral legitimacy of our governmental instiutions for too many of us. College taught me structure and critical thinking. Cynicism, free to all, provides insight to motivations. How tragic.
I grew up in Northern Virginia In a town much like any company town populated with government workers, embassy people, military, beltway bandits and politicians. You cannot live around DC and not eat, sleep and drink politics.
During the late 60’s, I joined the Young Republicans and campaigned for Dick Nixon’s presidential run for office. My eye’s were open when I saw how Woodward/Bernstein, Democrats and the liberal cabal made their bones blowing up the Nixon administration and attempting to take down the Republican Party. After all the shenanigans pulled by the Kennedy/Johnston administrations, I began to realize there are two different standards for people on the left and for those on the right.
September 11th, 2001. I lost family and friend in this insidious murderous traumatic event. Immediately afterward I became quite the skeptic and started to question, study, research, and conclude, while never closing my mind to any change to my assertions or conclusions lest it take me off the path to the search for truth….9/11 made me a truth seeker…and a far more humble individual.
The Iraq war. It didn’t make sense that we would launch a massive effort against Iraq, when we had Afghanistan going on. The whole yellow cake red herring and then telegraphing what we were going to be looking for and then for weeks seeing and ignoring all the trucks leaving Iraq and going into Syria. Our narrative didn’t add up and I started to feel manipulated. Before then, I never would have believed our military would be used to intentionally destabilize whole regions and huge profits would be made by the soft smooth hands of politicians and CEOs. Later, the DHS, Patriot Act, and huge expanse of government to “keep us safe,” began to look more and more authoritarian than I ever thought our Constitution would allow. Silly, silly me.
I was supportive of George Bush and his administration at the time. I was wrong. I now despise him and what he did.
I voted for Kerry. No difference really.
When Obama was re-elected, I felt the world shift. Nothing felt “right” or fair any longer.
My healthcare costs skyrocketed from $280 a month to over $1,200 (I am a smoker). When I asked co-workers how they could possibly afford to buy themselves coverage, many told me they lied about their smoking status, to get lower rates. It had come to this! Normal people, were lying and thinking nothing about it. I was appalled.
Then, I started seeing the 9-11 videos about how improbable the official story we were being told was, and that it sure looked as though we were being lied to. But why?
I’m pretty certain that I didn’t suspect that the Government was actually corrupt, until I saw how they treated Trump after he was President. I remembered speeches of Obama being posted, line for line, in our local paper, and outright lies and obfuscations being published about Trump. My world tilted.
Hasn’t been the same since.
The seed was planted when they silenced Oswald. They handled Ruby with greater secrecy. You simply can’t accept anything at face value, especially when what you’re told defies common sense. I’m over seventy years old and doubt I’ve ever heard the total truth from the government or its propaganda machines on any subject.
Watergate hearings.
As a kid, we didn’t have remote control for the TV. When a big news story was up, Dad would make me sit beside the TV and change the channels and sometimes go outside and spin the antenna. Later we got an electric antenna and could spin it at the TV from inside the house.
When I got in high school, this duty was passed to my younger brothers. One day I noticed that not a story or two, but all the major stories were presented in basically the same order WITH the same spin, usually even with the same words.
So I started then re-claiming my old job and switching the channel even more to CLEARLY prove all the top stories were the same. I started trying to point his out to my family. They either couldn’t see, didn’t care, or couldn’t remember it. Seriously, often I could point it out and get them to notice but a few days later they would forget.
We were all heavily involved in church, but like normal people. We toed the traditional lines. We were there every time the doors opened. We tried to live good lives and follow our conscience. We read enough Bible to always be prepared for Sunday School or Wednesday Bible study.
I had decided that wasn’t enough and had started truly studying the Bible. I was trying to read a minimum of a chapter a night, 5 days or more a week, and trying to truly understand what I was reading. I was a fast reader and many nights I would read several chapters or even whole books. It didn’t seem to really take that long. The first time through was a shock. It was so different than it was being taught. I had to read it through several more times to begin to grasp what it was saying.
It was about this time that I noticed the evening news was such propaganda.
I give God the absolute full credit. I really believe that my dedication to understanding God’s Word and not simply accepting what I was told was why God allowed me to see the deception.
God showed me. It wasn’t something I could have done on my own.
This was the late 70’s and early 80’s.
If you are awake right now and and can see through all this, God has done it. God has opened up possible future plans for you. Mere mortals aren’t capable of this level of deception. Only the only the wicked powers of The Enemy can pull off a deception this deep and strong.
No one can avoid the delusion except with God’s help.
If you can see the deception, He is giving you a chance, an opportunity.
Don’t blow it.
Get in your Bible today. Make sure you are praying to the right god and working for the right goals. DON’T be convinced of it, KNOW IT. Don’t let what seems like it just “HAS” to be right fool you. Don’t let any “great” leader tell you how to think. Test everything through the Bible.
GET IN GOD’S WORD RIGHT NOW ! Let God Himself tell you what is right. Accept nothing as fact except from God Himself.
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You MUST have a PERSONAL relationship with God. Do it right now.
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Alleluia and Amen!
Knowing God and being steeped in the Bible are our best defenses against deception of all kinds. I am amazed that so many Christians have not read the Bible cover to cover even once.
Well said
Knowing that something was real fishy with the JFK assassination and the following Warren Commission made me feel that the government was not to be trusted with the truth.
Clinton years. Foster, Brown, Whitewater, Monica, FBI files, Somalia, Rwanda, Serbia, Waco, Lincoln Bedroom, Pardons etc..how he survived 8 years showed the governement was stacked against the country and the GOP was useless.
Add in all the secret information he sold to China for $$. And I remember some kind of phone line or something that was on the sea bed that he also got money for. ‘Loral’ comes to mind.
Bill Clinton’s presidency in total but particularly the shameful way he disrespected the Office of the President by preying on a very young intern, behaving scandalously in the Oval Office and then — as President of the United States and the leader of the free world! — lying about it under oath. This was the beginning of everyone else lying under oath with no repercussions and, hence, it marked the end of our system of justice. The way it was reported and forgiven because he was a democrat and because the economy was good was eye-opening. This is when I first recognized the total bias on the part of the mainstream media. And, as you say, Sundance, once you see it, you can’t not see it.
You do not commit suicide via a karate chop to the neck.
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKdeaths.htm
The stillness and hushed tones after 11/22/63 spoke volumes, especially with the 58;220 deaths of American troops….and the abandonment of the South Vietnamese to the millions of deaths they then suffered. We were betrayed, and we betrayed them.
That, and I read things. A lot of things.
Our news people merely play dress up. Cronkite admitted in later life that he was a communist.
I turned from a promising career over the Iran hostages, as no one believed my admonishments about what those people were willing to do to win. 9/11 demonstrated their predilections.
So, now, I read and listen to the white noise I can find.
CTH provides solace.
Medical eye opening. In my early 20s I went to doctor to have a nematode(?) on my upper chest cauterized. I asked the nurse why they were draping my right leg. oops! Well, at least they didn’t amputate my beautiful leg.
My husband was diagnosed with 4th stage kidney cancer, had it removed with nothing wrong with the kidney. His labs were done wrong. He is also alergic to pennicillin and sulfa drugs which they did not note and had listed “no allergies.”
and that was before affirmative action medical schools. I know now many doctors are quacks. used to trust medicine. do no harm turned into do everything you can to make money.
Back in the late 1970s, my sister was given a terminal cancer diagnosis: they weren’t sure where it was or what kind it was, but yup. She was going to die from it, and they would just keep searching.
Big whoops: turned out the lab that was preparing the results of blood test MANUALLY had reversed their figures in the process and were dividing A by C, instead of dividing C by A. Hate when that happens.
She sort of felt guilty about wanting to sue them, and I suggested she go for it, pointing out that that was the only way to make what they had done a permanent part of public record. So she did, and established her own secretarial business in Danville, CA with the proceeds. (She was in the Clock Tower offices, in case anyone is familiar with Danville of those days)
Significant jump up in “paying attention:
Edward Snowden summer 2013. I have some “contact” with intel and related systems and when he came forward I KNEW internal forces were cracking up… understand that this was after Bghazi standown false flag and a great deal of info was on the table about who barry o’bambam was and was not– so i was increasingly alert but snowden was a clear “change” day for me.
1975 and the fall of Saigon …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Saigon
When I learned that 50k of my generation had given their young lives in vain. Yeah, I was pleased that the very low draft lottery number that would have sent me to Nam in 6 mos. had become meaningless, because Nixon ended the war, but the actual END of the war … nearly as reprehensible as Bidinh’s escape from Afghanistan … made me sad to be an American, and depressed by the damage done to my generation. Then … Jimmy Carter … malaise … wearing sweaters indoors … long gasoline lines … stations running out of gas … and 21.5% mortgage rates.
That was when I was 18-24 yo … and I knew AMERICA was in trouble.
When I learned in 2012 that the collection money at mass was funding abortion through the American bishops’ official charity, Catholic Relief Services.
“Here I am at the holy sacrifice of the mass, and a child is being killed in the womb in Africa because of our donations.”
https://all.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CRS_Grants_for_FY_2012.pdf
It’s still happening.
https://www.lepantoin.org/wp/crs/
That brings to mind, my husband (Irish Catholic to the core), telling me prior to going to Mass: “Don’t give them a lot of money, $5.00 is plenty. When the Pope is living in a shack then I’ll consider giving more.”
We were also paying tuition for our kids Catholic School tuition at the time.
I believe that organization, or one similar, is an NGO and helping the illegals get thru Mexico and into our country. All the nice clothes and shoes and that envelope with $$ in it – from them.
I wrote this comment yesterday in regard to another commentor at a different site.
If not for our compromised media, none of the craziness happening now would be possible. I wonder how long the media has been doing this. I only became aware of it sometime in 2003/04 of all things a debate about Iraq that I watched on c-span and how that debate was reported the next day. Anyone who didn’t watch the debate was told the opposite of what had occurred. I went so far as to take an online cognitive test to make sure I was understanding correctly. Until then I had trusted what the media told me, I made decisions about what to do in my life based on things they reported. I feel like I have been a victim of fraud, perpetrated by the MSM.
Reading Steven Den Beste and the Little Green Footballs blog (I don’t follow them any more)
LGF was the first conservative (then) blog I ever followed.
Trump.
I have said it before, that I have NEVER been a fan of the “Trump” Brand. Tacky products, buildings, and shameless self-promotion. Yet … when he descended the golden escalator… I looked at my wife and declared “there’s the next President of the United States”. I was onboard. And all I can say is; “promises made, promises kept”. Unlike any U.S. President in my lifetime … despite conspiratorial attempts by both the unhinged Democrats and GOPe to destroy his Presidency. It took a weaponized lab-made bioweapon unleashed on the WHOLE WORLD to fabricate an excuse for illegal ballot box stuffing and end his second Presidency via FRAUD.
PRESIDENT TRUMP will return victorious in 2024, and hopefully set AMERICA on a healthy course again.
From your keyboard to God’s ears.
It was when my second grader came out of school detailing the mock election of ’16 and all of her class was voting one way in our blue city and she (wisely) said that she was undecided because she didn’t know either of the candidates. I said to myself: I need to up my game.
Not long after, I was born-again. Praise God, because I think the Holy Spirit was tapping me on the shoulder saying, Hey, wake up!
We are fighting spiritual enemies.
Our second graders wake us all to many serious things in life. It’s one of the reasons why the falling number of marriages and child bearing is having a massive negative impact on our culture. God wants us to have children to love and care-for. There’s nothing like a child you love … to focus you on what REALLY matters in life. And those who take that responsibility seriously tend to “grow up” rapidly and improve their lives and the lives of everyone they touch. I can tell you love your child(ren) … and God has blessed you because of that. Welcome to the fold. All things are possible thru Christ. Yes, even Trump 2024
Well…when I was in grad school. On a visit to my parents, as I was about to leave, I was parroting the comments in the graduate student lounge that Barry Goldwater was going to destroy everything in sight. My parents, side by side took it in and then, quietly, my Mother said, “if you believe that, you’re not as smart as we thought you were.” The next day, I bought “Conscience of a Conservative” and there was no going back. I argued “our” side against my roommate and, the next day she reported she had the same argument with Gail – thought to be the smartest graduate student by most profs. I said, “What side did you take?” and Donna wailed…”I knew I shouldn’t tell you.” She took my side. Score TWO for my parents (and Barry.”) So then I was Republican but not avid. Until Obama. He crossed so many lines I had too take a side. It seems everything since then has been corrupted and he’s still doing it.
I loved your story. My parents were big Goldwater fans. As a youngster, I took note of the squareness of Barry’s jaw. It seared into my memory.
My father and grandparents said AMERICA was desperate for a Barry Goldwater … and I have pics of the whole family wearing “I like Ike” buttons. And *gasp* even some pictures of them smoking and playing bridge in the 1950’s … ohhhhhhh mommmmmmaaaaa … such a “horrible” time in America … right? I am a mid-era baby boomer, born in 1955 … and I was always conservative EXCEPT for my brief tour of the Summer of Love (the REAL one) thru Jr Hi, HS, and college. But I married and had kids right after college (started YOUNG compared to my peers) … and returned to my conservative roots. But I am a “modern conservative” … For example: I always believed that MLK Jr. was RIGHT about equality and integration … but my family hated him, and said he was a communist. They were probably technically correct … yet his core message about equal rights was spot on. And let me say that my family was soooooooo hardcore conservative that they were quietly pleased when each Kennedy was assasinated. I couldn’t go there with them. Even IF Kennedy cheated the vote to become POTUS … murder is not the solution.
David Bowie. I was around when he first came on the scene in the early 70’s. Saw him in concert as Ziggy or maybe persona before that? A few yrs later I read where the music heads invented him, how to dress sing the whole package. I was disenchanted to say the least – I really ‘dugged’ him. I started to question, in my head, what’s as real and what was not. Late 70’s early 80’s my children were born (4) so my was consumed with raising them. Then Bill Clinton and Hillary happened…eyes wide open…Bush…Barry followed. My outrage grew and grew until one fateful early summer day I watched a man come down an escalator! Living in Westchester county – I was very aware of The Donald, but that summer day he OPENED my eyes to the truth that needed to be said, every word he spoke was what my angst was about for yrs. He, DJT, was the man/person who spoke to my prayers of someone pease care live America as much i as I do. I will never turn against him as he was chosen for this time in history, win lose or draw he is my hope.
I have seen reports that PDJT spoke of how China was raping our country years before he decided to run for President. Another thing – how he was the democrats’ golden boy until he turned Republican.
Yes … once, twice …
The Dem’s LOVED taking Donald Trumps MONEY … so much so … that they would probably let him grab them by their Pu$$IES … yes … I’m talking about the Democrat MEN.
I am a massive fan of Mark Bolan/T Rex. He was the ORIGINAL and totally organic glam rocker. He started as a hippie folksinger, sitting cross legged on the floor playing his acoustic guitar … but woke up one day (somewhat like Bob Dylan) and said I want to play electric music that’s more upbeat. So what did he do? He got electric guitar tutorials from Eric Clapton. Seriously … he was Clapton’s student rock guitarist. During this time … when he was still somewhat unknown and poor … he had a flat mate named David Bowie. Bowie basically COPIED Mark Bolan. Bolan was drop dead “cute” and sexy, and somewhat androgynous (although he was decidedly heterosexual) … he was the original template for Bowie. But TBH … Bowie didn’t have Bolan’s looks or natural charisma … so he “invented” many, many, personas. Yeah, a little pre-fab fab.
Here is Bolan doing Jeepster from his eponymous “Electric Warrior” lp. #188 of Rolling Sones greatest 500 lps of all time.
And yes, I got my kids hooked on vinyl … and … T Rex … and believe it or not … my daughters wedding featured Jeepster playing when they left the ceremony. Most of the guests had NO IDEA what they were hearing. I didn’t suggest it … it was all my daughters idea. She’s the creative one in the family … follows after her dad 🥰
Just like a car
You’re pleasing to behold
I’ll call you Jaguar
If I may be so bold
When I moved to a more rural area, I cut the cable and shelved the TV. Then I discovered the internet had news too. Was shocked at the difference. Am never going back.
I became “aware” of politics during the Clarence Thomas hearings, I never really watched national news until 9-11, became increasingly interested after the invasion of Iraq. I became a political junkie when Wall st crashed in 2008. I became a political cynic in 2012 after that Kenyan POS was re-selected. this is when I first became aware of how easy it is to steal elections and how apathetic most of my friends and family actually were. I was depressed over the direction I now knew that the country was heading but was overjoyed and optomistic when Donald Trump won in 2016. They never ever saw him coming. I watched in slow motion how the 2020 election was stolen from not just Trump but from America and currently I see no real viable solutions to stop what is becoming inevitable…….the end of the greatest republic this world has ever seen.
The moment Obama opened his mouth to campaign was my awakening.
I can spot a con artist a mile away and couldn’t believe my country ,in general, was so oblivious.
From then on, I’ve made friends with people who read, follow and dissect everything we can get our hands on to do with government.
We get together for obscenely long coffee meets to discuss our insights.
Our mission is to red pill others and in blue states it’s everyone we meet!
I have zero trust of anything government. …local, state or federal.
“I can spot a con artist a mile away and couldn’t believe my country ,in general, was so oblivious.”
Me too.
What amazed me at the time is how he duped Wall Street and all of the big investment banks. They were all ga-ga over him with the exception of John Mack at Morgan Stanley, who was astonished by his colleagues’ support of Obama.
Not sure he duped them. They were probably told to be duped.
Trayvon was a WTF moment. The media actively stoked racial tension. Truth be damned.
My day was the same day I started listening to El Rushbo, which also turned out to be the day of the OK City bombing.
168 – 1
Go Tim!
I’ve been looking at and questioning politics since my teens. Although too young to remember or evaluate the JFK assassination, that’s the event that first caught my eye. Once I started reading and thinking about it, I was convinced LBJ and the CIA were responsible. And I think the CIA set JFK up for failure at the Bay of Pigs.
Though I still was unaware of the depths of corruption in government, things kept happening that made me say no way is that legit.
Clinton’s impeachment was huge for me. His whole administration was a dirty sham, and I knew he should be rotting in prison. Instead, well, we all know.
My eyes really opened when the government and media conspired to hush up Benghazi right before Barry’s 2nd election. I was certain he couldn’t win reelection. Hah!
Obamanation was an abomination, and still is.
When PDJT won, I said here on CTH the real war was about to begin. I’m sad to be right.
Of course, since then, we’ve all been shown how deeply our country, and the entirety of Western governments have been compromised. The awful part is they have no intention of slowing down.
And even though I believe the masses are awakening, and starting to resist, this may only intensify TPTB to increase pressure. Nothing is more dangerous than a rabid
trapped animal.
So, thanks to SD, Menagerie, Ad rem and everyone else who make CTH possible, and above all absolutely necessary.
“And I think the CIA set JFK up for failure at the Bay of Pigs.”
Dulles tried to back JFK into a corner, Dulles had been used to having his way for so long (going back to his involvement in the Treaty of Versailles) and thought Kennedy would at the last minute send the air cover.
A decade later, the participants in JFK’s assassination, McCord, Barker, Sturgis, went into the Watergate to retrieve documents that Dems had about the specific participants in the assassination and were about to leak. W Bush had been in Dallas on Nov 22, and when he got wind of the plan to release the names and documents, he ‘broke out in assholes and shit himself to death,’ [source, Rich Man’s Trick, on Rumble].
Trump misses a lot of opportunities, but among the worst was his failure to immediately, Day One, abolish the FBI and CIA and NSA.
Well, I feel kind of dumb compared to others here. It was probably in 2020 that I realized that things “were not what you thought they were”. Much of this was pandemic related at first. Somewhere along the line I discovered Robert Malone and read the Great Barrington Declaration. When you hear truth like that you just KNOW it is truth. I often read Automatic Earth (a few years ago it was focused more on energy issues) and Zero Hedge (which I read for financial info), and probably picked up a link to CTH from one of them. My awakening and reading sources progressed and expanded from there.
CTH is now required reading every day (and I am so thankful for it and for SD), and I realize that virtually everything spoken by the government and by mainstream media is a lie. Now it seems relatively easy to spot the lies.
Of course I always knew that there were corrupt and lying politicians – but not that it was 99.9% of them. Perhaps my late awakening had to do with not watching television. I always found it so irritating and insulting to my intelligence that I haven’t had a TV for years. The downside of that was being relatively unaware of how bad things had gotten.
Thank you, SD, for all you do.