Apparently, the Chinese spy balloon isn’t the first. Additionally, according to the Pentagon, there are several more floating around over various countries. All of that said, what exactly is going on here and why doesn’t anyone just get rid of it?
These and other questions are posed by Tucker Carlson who seems as confused as anyone else about what exactly the nature of these Chinese Balloon things are all about. WATCH:
It does seem a little silly that our entire media apparatus is fixated on a Chinese balloon which could simply be destroyed if that was what the U.S. government really wanted to do. It’s all a little odd at this point…
I mean, what the heck else is going on while everyone is fixated on this balloon.
WASHINGTON DC – Not everyone in Washington is freaking out about the suspected Chinese spy balloon flying high over the United States. Some former officials say it’s giving U.S. diplomats exactly what they need: more leverage over Beijing.
The Chinese airship forced the U.S. military to scramble fighter jets, prompted lawmakers to demand answers from the Biden administration and led Secretary of State Antony Blinken to indefinitely postpone his trip to Beijing this weekend.
But Blinken was going to China without much hope of getting concessions on major issues such as Beijing’s support for Russia’s war on Ukraine, its human rights abuses or its threats to Taiwan. Now, some former officials who’ve worked on international negotiations say he may be in a stronger position, though that advantage may fade over time.
“This event definitely strengthens the hands of the United States,” said Heather McMahon, a former senior director at the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board. “Anytime an espionage operation is exposed, [it] gives the advantage to the targeted nation.”
Blinken was preparing to see top officials in China on Sunday and Monday in a follow-up to President Joe Biden’s meeting with Chinese paramount leader Xi Jinping in Bali in November. At the time, Biden pledged to “maintain open lines of communication” with Beijing amid worsening bilateral tensions.
The Pentagon’s announcement Thursday of an alleged Chinese surveillance balloon hovering over Montana changed that plan. In canceling Blinken’s trip, at least for now, the State Department said the incident “would have narrowed the agenda in a way that would have been unhelpful and unconstructive.” (read more)
According to the Politico ‘spin’, the appearance of the balloon is a good thing.
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So it COULD have been taken down over the Bering Sea. Why wasn’t it.
Charlotte99 asks: So it COULD have been taken down over the Bering Sea. Why wasn’t it?
Well, we know the Bidens are weak enough, and compromised enough, to let the thing float over the CONUS and surveil everything it wants.
Now the question becomes, once it has collected all the info it wishes to, are the Bidens going to let it cross over our border and leave with all this intelligence? Or will they take it down, and examine What it collected, so we can see what its motive for being here was in the first place, and gather our own intelligence from it?
if we just let it waltz out of here with all the info it wants, THEN we will look weak on the world stage.
Way too late to stop us from”looking” weak. 13 soldiers died on Biden’s orders to disorderly evacuate & all he could do was look at his watch & talk about his dead son–who DID NOT die in Iraq or in the military–when the 13 came home at Dover Air Field.
He’s allegedly concerned about a debris field? Since it’s been observed at 50,000 feet at Kansas City by pilots IN THE AIR, will he be concerned about a commercial passenger jet meeting the balloon in the air?
We caught 3 Chinese nationals crossing the border illegally a couple days ago. They paid the cartels $35,000 each in cash. There’s another Chinese balloon over Latin America right now. The one over the U S. was also over Canada.
Who’s to say China isn’t looking at pathways thru Latin America, Mexico & Canada to our borders with either “civilians” or foot soldiers & special ops looking like civilians?
Heck, just walk on a campus of a UC school in CA and hear all the research science majors charting away in Mandarin…
Who says the “intelligence” was not already being transmitted directly to Chy-nah in real time?
Great question that I had too. It was over the ocean before it was directed to make its turn to Montana and our military base there too.
Good thing our “ally” to the north, Turdeaux, warned use when it first entered his airspace several days ago.
That image above shows the official Chicom explanation of it floating off course is Bullshit!
We developed Covid 19 and sent to China. We sent this balloon from China. The General under Trump said he would warm China on plans by American military. This has always looked, sounded, and smelled traitorous! The coup is a disaster to us.
Beware! “Abundance of caution” is back.
Next they will start with “anecdotal evidence”.
Soon they will be circling back.
…if things get serious enough they might even go for a reach-around.
Is the circling back before or after lowering our expectations?
That comet that just passed by is a few days ago circled back in a shorter time frame than any of Psaki’s lazy excuses.
It was last seen from earth 50,000 years ago when our Neanderthal friends were still here..
I hope they reach out to us. We need to touch base. Maybe they can SHOOT us an email. I’m sure it’s on their radar.
We have a path forward.
Slides haven’t been updated.
What I can tell you is that _____.
Let’s take it offline.
We’ll circle back.
Ummmm, the balloon(s) puts US and Blinken in a stronger position for any meetings when they occur? Absolutely insane take on the current situation by this Heather broad (doesn’t deserve a formal title).
Yeah, right, I’m sure that’s exactly what everyone would if this happened in a Trump administration. And if it happened under a Trump administration and he did something to force it down, he would be impeached for the 23rd time.
Correction, 23rd time this year and it’s just the first of February.
They blamed him for that Chinese woman who was caught at Mar-a-Lago …
I wonder what happened to her…
The ChiComs just told us there would be consequences if we went to Taiwan again. Maybe they were prepared to act and it was not a threat but a promise?
It’s not insanity. It’s all part of the theater.
Rubbing our noses in it.
Did you catch that they say it gives him a stronger position, though that might not last. Makes perfect sense to not go if your position is stronger. /s
Near the end, they complain that it will narrow down the conversation. So basically they don’t want to talk about it.
The strong position it gives Us is that Blinken won’t be yelled at during televised first meeting …… but behind the scenes later off camera…
It looks like the Agency recently sent in a squad of deep state
nanny’s. One was appointed to Klaus :
https://banned.video/watch?id=63c994787760aa1bec67798f
and now with the Chinese balloon mystery one was appointed to Joe. The
original deep state Nanny of course already appeared in the seventies :
Remember, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Although at other times, it’s a squirrel.
But is all depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.
“It does seem a little silly that our entire media apparatus is fixated on a Chinese balloon which could simply be destroyed if that was what the U.S. government really wanted to do. It’s all a little odd at this point…”
What would be odd is if Biden and the Pentagon did something that wasn’t odd.
Just my opinion: I think (and have thought) the spy satellite aspect of this is a total distractor. Better expressed – a bene that is not central to the core Chinese objective. The Chinese had to know the balloon would be detected. That’s the starting point. They obviously didn’t care about or preferred to suspend/cancel the Blinken discussions.
This is about Biden.
We’ll see if it backfires on Xi.
When I was a kid, we bullies would reach down the back of a kid’s pants, grab the waistband of his underwear, and pull it up over his head.
We called this a Chinese laundry.
By now, Chairman Xi knows if Biden wears Hanes or Fruit of the Loom.
Neither. Most likely Depends.
LMAO!!!!!!!
A.k.a. “wedgie”.
I think the U.S. should send Blinken, Winken, AND Nod to China… that’ll show them whose boss.
They need to get the Disney floats for Thanksgiving Day Parade early this year.
Send up Jordan Walker to smash it.
I’m curious, how do we know the balloon isn’t carrying an infectious disease payload device? It isn’t like the Chinese haven’t used infectious disease on the world stage before is it? Could be a test device in prep for 2024 to assist the left during the next election cycle…
Charles. that is exactly what I am thinking about.
It may be spreading Covid 20, 200 or 2000. That may be why Xiden isn’t doing squat.
This first one is a test. The next will be carrying a EMP.
when the Chy-na tanks coming rolling in along with their aircraft bombers,
we will do nothing because to shoot back at them might release a virus!
The US gets dumber by the minute.
It’s our own government with the fake news as usual. Look here not there.
It could even be the left over re-heated fish from the Chinese Air Force high commands staff galley kitchen fridge! P.U.!!!!!
Oh for gawd’s sake. Who exactly knows or has decided that these balloons are from China, the latest and greatest boogeyman of all time?
Last time I checked my super secret ring decoder it said that humans are not alone in the Universe. The triple whammy medal laden military officer in this video doesn’t want you to think about whether it is really from China. It is a proven fact! Drop the subject already.
I love science fiction movies and books. And yes there appears to be a LUST for nuclear power from aliens who have been on long journeys across the universe. Why do you think there was the Roswell incident.? Criminy. They landed next door to Los Alamos. For crying out loud.
Ziggy Stardust
Sorry. I just had to post this too but can’t help it. That radio array in the movie is named “Hane’s Train,” it is real and in Socorro, NM. Hane Hvatum was my dear friend. And all who worked with him dragged their TV’s out to the curb in the 1980’s.
It was tracked back to central China, see below
This balloon flew directly over the state of Alaska, and no intervention? Was our military asleep at the switch?
Um, the Chinese said it’s theirs
Sadly, that leads me to have to ask which I trust more conducting surveillance over mainly conservative states: the Biden administration or the Chinese?
It’s a legitimate question.
I believe the chinese have admitted that it is theirs.
However, they call it a weather balloon
Remember the opening scene in ‘Gladiator’ , “people should know when they are conquered”
As Americans, we’re here now..
If Joe Biden shot that balloon down ….he would live out the rest of his days in a dog cage somewhere within a Beijing wet market
And that would be a good thing.
Much of Montana has less than 1 person per square mile. Believe it or not there’s even fewer people in the Pacific Ocean.
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/state-by-state/montana-population-change-between-census-decade.html
Did you have to post that? We’ve already got more scum from California, NY, Washington, Oregon, Arizona than we can handle.
This isn’t a spy balloon. Just use common sense and logic. Who is telling you it is a chinese spy balloon? The usual liars. The media and washington. They are doing what they did with Russia. Continue to stir up fear so the public will eventually support military action against China. It is shocking to me to see how many conservatives are believing all this.
China isn’t stupid. They wouldn’t let some slow moving spy balloon just float over the US.
China has very good spy satellites. Why would they need this?
As incompetent as our militry currently is, there is still no way they would have let a “spy balloon” from China just wonder into US air space.
I 100% believe China that it is a meteorological balloon. Ukraine is lost and done so Washington and their stooges in the media are prepping for the next conflict. The rhetoric about China will keep growing. It will keep growing just like the rhetoric about Russia took off. Everything bad was because of Russia. It was all a primer to get the public’s support for NATOs war with Russia. Russia hacked the elction, Russia hacked Hillarys email, Russia coluded with Trump etc etc. Now they are moving on to China.
Please don’t be fooled by this. This is NOT a spy balloon.
The US under the Demented Fraud administration and the eunuchs at the Pentagon will gift-wrap Taiwan for the CCP
While I agree with your general premise, you know that if this was a Russian balloon we’d act. But we haven’t. We look weak, clueless and foolish on the world stage. I don’t see how that fits into your narrative.
Biden, Hillary, the Democrats and Hollywood and the media are China. They sold out to the CCP long ago.
Where do you think Pfizer and big Pharma manufacture many of their goods? Blue states and China.
So…we have a balloon now over KS that came down from Montana; we have a balloon being reported over Canada: https://news.yahoo.com/china-balloon-canada-montana-nuclear-site-204650304.html; a 3rd balloon over Latin Am.: https://nypost.com/2023/02/03/another-chinese-spy-balloon-spotted-over-latin-america-pentagon-says/; and an explosion in the sky over Billings, MT: https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/see-it-montana-governor-confirms-reports-of-massive-explosion-over-state-footage-goes-viral/
apparently there are currently two of these chinese balloons inside the United States:
Based on past performance of Tickle Me Joes “administration” and the Chu Hoi traitors running the Pentagon- is it outside the realm of possibility that they are working hand in hand with the Red Chinese and this is actual collusion between them?
“Chieu Hoi”, the Open Arms program from the Vietnam War era.
I wonder how much China paid “the big guy” for allowing this balloon to gather the information for them.
Easy. It is a dry run. Lets be real. Our country has been sold out by our politicians.
Want to know why there is a military recruiting crisis? That sort of shit right there.
That thing can easily loose altitude and collide with any aircraft at anytime. There’s plenty of other damage possible in the air and on the ground too.
Our communist government is pure evil. We are not protected in any way, land nor sky.
Joe Biden’s disastrous Open-Border Policies have
enabled China to launch a Chinese Spy Ballon in
U.S. Airspace.
Just in: The Biden administration has petitioned the Ukrainian government to borrow the equipment needed to shoot down the balloon. It is rumored that Saint Zelensky is seriously considering their request.
…and dc would transfer more billion$ to ukr….and pat themselve$ on the back…
( meanwhile the unwilling, dishonest, corrupt u.s. negotiators see clues that they have turned on an unwanted military grinding operation and strengthen another country to make a slowly changing / moving ukr border…)
Where are the ( green background ) photos?
“I mean, what the heck else is going on while everyone is fixated on this balloon.”
Frightening to think an EMP device could be floated over so many countries without any response.
Distraction from Project Veritas and Pfizer?
And classified docs. And Hunter’s Ukrainian company. And…..
Maybe it’s a test balloon before they send in the jets? The balloon is a lot less expensive than a warcraft.
Besides they see how impulsively we spend with our own military warcraft given away at leisure to Afghanistan and Ukraine. They’re not going to waste perfectly good jets like we do. They’ll send up balloon first and if we do nothing.. then send in jets.
Do we even keep any of our own artillery for domestic defense anymore? Sure did away quickly with all that pesky fuel.
““This event definitely strengthens the hands of the United States,” said Heather McMahon, a former senior director at the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board. “Anytime an espionage operation is exposed, [it] gives the advantage to the targeted nation.””
Yes, Heather is an idiot.
It explains why she is a FORMER senior director at Turnips Intel advisory board. How is it strengthened when it was first noticed floating over Montana? As opposed to Alaska a few days ago? Or Canada?
It is helpful for the dimwits voting for leftists for her to acknowledge it is an espionage operation.
An invasion of our airspace overhead and an invasion of our border to the south.
The word for this administration is “invasion”.
Allowing this to happen is treasonous.
Trial Balloons?
EMP Trial Balloons?
Bioweapon Dispersion Balloons?
China has spy satellites that are forever flying over other countries…..as does the US, Russia, etc. So, WHY the issue about a balloon??? What can the balloon do, that spy satellites aren’t already doing???
What’s in that balloon?? Maybe the idiots can’t shoot it down. Maybe there’s another bioweapon in there.
can bio materials survive a gigantic hot fire? Shoot it down with malice.
It’s lower and slower, for one.
DOD … what good is it? They don’t want to shoot down the balloon because it might hurt somebody? So, by this logic, we can be invaded and we won’t resist because it might hurt somebody. Oh wait, we are being invaded daily, by thousands of illegal aliens from across the globe and we’re already not resisting. This must be what it’s like to Build Back Better with a woke military.
We’re screwed.
I know. They always think that if they revert to a position of caring about our safety that we will be good sheep and stop asking questions.
Well, at least it’s a balloon and there are pictures.
Usually, when we’re in an unpopular war somewhere, the economy is tanking, people are losing jobs, birth rate is declining, the race card is being played everywhere, and people hate the democrats who are always in charge when it happens, they go the tried and true alien abduction/UFO narrative.
They tried the UFO thing last year and didn’t get much traction.
WWTRD–“What would the Russians Do?”
What Trump said…
Am going to buy 100 white balloons, and write – Chyna owns you – then tape them to the fence next to the road.
Every water tower in the United States should say – Property of Chyna.
So in the shell game that is world politics, what is happening while we are riveted to another open breach of sovereignty?
Who knows for sure that it isn’t a trial balloon flown by the Pentagon or CIA?
Chy-na admitted they owned it
I feel no sympathy for the Pentagon stooge who had to give this pathetic press brief.
He obviously doesn’t make policy, he just parrots it for the cameras.
If the Pentagon:
1) decided not to bring it down when it entered Alaskan air defense zone, and
2) doesn’t have positive confirmation of what’s being carried by it, and
3) knew this would be a major embarrassment once spotted by the public
Then what else are we to conclude other than the leadership at the Pentagon is compromised?
And when I say compromised I don’t mean incompetence… I mean treason.
Absolutely!
Just shoot the damn thing down.
Our woke military will use cotton balls to bring it down.
Glad to wake up to no mammoth news related to this. 1st key possibility didn’t become a reality.
Still have the same burning question – why would Beijing tell the Weather Balloon Lie knowing it would be immediately apparent due to multiple balloons in our hemisphere….? Does it mean they have something huge planned for the immediate future…?
Saw the news that the Gov of Montana wants us to ignore our eyes with that video of an “explosion” with long trail of something having come down (or up) — no explanation for what the video shows.
We are probably already at a time that entities with a lot of $$$ can fake just about any video to an extent it isn’t obvious or readily detectable with even standard technology.
For example, yesterday, there were a couple of regular videos with split screens where the tech guy showed he could make it look like Putin or Biden (or anybody) was the one saying everything he was (with his mouth movements)…
The ability for the Governments + Davos Crew to lie to us will be scary in a few years or now….
Possible wrinkle: The CCP sent the balloon over for the same reasons the FBI has been acting in a way that indicates the FBI lost all access to the NSA database (and so is trying to build its own).
We see only the tip of the iceberg in this shadow war.
Here are some what ifs.
What if the top CCP spies/agents in the FBI lost their access to valuable government data when the FBI lost its own access to the NSA databases in 2016, and then never regained it?
What if the Trump Administration did a better job than we think of clearing out CCP spies and agents from the 3 letter agencies, maybe with the exception of the CIA? Remember when the Trump Administration cut off the CIA from special ops support? And moved which agency does the security clearances?
We know the CCP lost a major stream of information when HRC lost and that server in her bathroom that was serving up special access programs and signals intelligence in real time got cut off.
What if “pick your fighter Biden” really is basically actors plus AI under US patriot control, and the classified docs operation that ran through U Delaware and U Penn and the beach house also went stale in 2017, and never restarted in 2021? So those classified docs searches are for clean up and for show, to set up the legal consequences and educate the public but not to retrieve classified documents for which a damage assessment was done two years ago?
What if the CCP suspects that nuclear assets have been moved, or upgraded, and the trail has gone cold for where they might be now?
What if we managed to kill one or more of their spy satellites covertly, and they lost their eyes in the sky? Leaving them with only the tens of thousands of agents on the ground?
So they are in desperate need of real time geospatial intelligence regarding how we have our military assets deployed right before they make some move they believe might risk a US response?
Combination test the defense response balloon and up to date real time surveillance data.
Is it a dominance move?
Or a desperation move?
Or just a going balls to the wall before going on the offense move?
Good food for thought.
I don’t think it was dominance or desperation. I put $$$ on it being collusion for now.
At 1st thought, you have far more confidence than me that Trump + Team was successful in draining the swamp. Not just neutralizing Chinese Spies but undoing the cancers Obama + Bush + others seeded…for the Elites…
Their ability to fix the 2020 Election argues against the idea Patriots + Nationalists are the Average Stock we can find in our 3-letter agencies…
Same with the 2022 Midterms.
Same with the creation + launch of Covid.
Same with the propaganda needed to get to the “Vaccines” + maintain that path despite the growing stack of dead bodies…
No, I can’t conclude the 3-letter agencies are teeming with White Hats that have the Chinese +/or the forces of the Globalists on their heels…
I don’t have a strong feel for why these balloons + the circus were done now…
….We’ll probably get a better feel in the coming days + next few weeks…
But I don’t get the feeling the Average Person is understanding the likely magnitude of what is likely going on…
—— We have tanks heading over to a major war in Europe against a nuclear power whose pipelines we just blew up…
Our military stockpiles are dwindling + we are still dealing from 2 bioweapons being launched against us + lockdowns designed to take a hatchet to the roots of the global economy……
I could go on…
….But what % of the Average People still think talk like this is a waste of time + nuts…?
With the level of overt cooperation between the 5 Eyes Nations, do you really believe the Chinese have lost enough access to Intel in the US that they would feel some level of desperation…?
Until I have enough reasons to conclude otherwise, I still believe the CCP is an active partner with the Davos Crew / Elites – the Elites who own our institutions…
Today’s China was built by the West to play the role it now is.
They have been telling us that since 1943 in Cairo.
This is the most likely interpretation if you factor in seemingly inexplicable things like – Gen Marshal cutting of Chaing Kai Shek when he knew Stalin was stockpiling Mao + the Anti-Communist Fanatic Nixon normalizing the CCP + our Elites shifting wealth creation to China to keep Communism alive + Big Tech turning it into a Super Power with 21st century police-state capability. China didn’t build that. We did with their help – just like Covid…
I can’t bring myself to see it differently…. The evidence is there…
I agree with all your analysis of past actions and collaboration between the Davosians and the CCP.
But there have been too many WTF moments and “don’t believe your own eyes” moments and chips away and revelations to outright dismiss the idea that there has been a significant shift in the reality underneath the Matrix overlay.
Envelopes at a funeral.
“Rosa DeLauro”
Biden falling up a staircase and literally losing his #$%% in a meeting with Bergoglio.
The failure of the Zelensky false flag
Deripaska in the spotlight
The Kennedy Assassination with information new to most making its way to prominence on one of the top news broadcasts in the nation, putting a pin in the “oh conspiracy theories!” balloon.
McCarthy now with a leash held by President Trump.
But, mostly, those key Executive Orders as well as President Trump saying, several times, that he caught them all and has information on everyone.
We will see.
The problem with having evidence on everyone is that you need a force – official or unofficial – willing to act on it – like policing authorities + courts. If we had that, 2020 would never have happened…
I’m sure some struggle is going on.
Compartmentalization will also break down as things get worse. Already, people in the 3-letter agencies who were forced or pushed or felt the need to take the shots have to wonder what is flowing in their veins + that of their children who took the shots.
— Which is why there is a go chance that something mammoth + instant like EMP Strikes could be on the timeline…
….which is why allowing that balloon to cross the nation is inexcusable as far as I can tell…
Something to Consider:
Some have said China’s Economy is as poised for collapse as ours. That it is feeling desperation. That its over the top measures in cities like Shanghai are related to internal security concerns.
But that kind of talk has come up too often in the past to get a real feel for it now…
But, Beijing will have a better understanding of this than anybody else.
— It’s actions with other nations – like these balloons – can be a sign of internal concerns. —
Very interesting points, Alex.
Well worth pondering.
Elections have consequences, stolen elections doubly so.
God knows what the balloons are really about, but one thing is certain, good or ill, it wouldn’t be floating over our airspace “if” the duly elected president President Trump were in office.
We need to stop tip-toeing around the why? We are suffering massive inflation, 3rd world invasion, sexual confusion, war in Ukraine, Chinese balloons/Fentynal…and on and on…WHY? Answer: 11/3/20 and all the elections stolen before or since.
We don’t correct that, enjoy the pretty balloons.
The warm cooperation between the Coup dÉat and the CCP continues apace. It’s almost touching.
I thought, since the election was stolen and a China-compromised fake president was installed, that this is what the Chinese invasion looks like. And now this…
Lol
that is the best
unfortunately, when it comes to the defense of our country, it will
be up to its citizens
our government and military are incapable
Chyna doesn’t need a silly balloon to spy on America… they already own a McTurtle!
Coco must be nearby.
There have been claims for years that Chy-nah is buying up our farmland. Perhaps this is just the overseer legitimately coming to look at his properties.
Let ’em buy it up … someday we’ll have a President with balls again and he can nationalize all the property as strategic resources of the United States and seize it
Strategic agricultural resources
Strategic cattle grazing grounds
Strategic row-crop lands
Hell, even Strategic cricket habitat
PresTrump should have nationalized the Uranium One holdings as a Strategic Military Defense Mineral Resource and sent the Russian buyers back to Hillary and her cohorts for a refund of their purchase funds
Was sad to see that he never did
For however long there has been a CCP police station in NYC, and very little coverage of that.
Abbott in Texas and the other powers that be have okayed the selling of land here in this state to China. That’s a fact.
I’d say your thesis is true.
And I’d bet that somewhere in those papers Biden has purloined, you’d find the Bill of Sale transferring ownership of this country from the citizens of this Republic to them…lock, stock, and barrel, all “i”s dotted and “t”s crossed.
They have Google earth for that
This is hysterical. Our government has at least 80 spy balloons collecting info upon all of us.
I am more upset about our government.
So true…and is fact…… and…. anytime they want to deliver a EMP or any other weapon I believe they have the capacity…. and it wont come by balloon….