History of government and knowing some of the extent of corruption and treason as they usurp the US Constitution along with all their criminal NGO Alphabet Agencies that are nothing more than a revolving door of Lobbyists, politicians, and CEOs rotating from one to another.

Could claim intelligence, but we know it’s the simple fact of stopping to look around and to see for oneself the truth of what they believe by the information they incorporate for their own conclusions. My Own Research.

Every plan and contingency that had been in place for all pandemics before the SARS CoV-2 rollout was turned on it’s head in employed the exact opposite of what all prior recommendations had been.

Numbers. Where are, were, the dead? There were less deaths for the years 2016 – 2020, so where were all those “Excess” deaths? The Bubonic Plague was a pandemic that wiped out 1/3rd of the European populations. Easy to see and personally know people. The Spanish Flu killed 1 out of 10 HEALTHY people, again people knew other people that were dying or laid in the streets in the makeshift hospitals. Numbers. Who do YOU know that died near you? I was promised 2.2 million dead by August of 2020. And so many more numbers that come from after “more information came out which would had already failed all it’s animal trials.

The push when there was clearly no indication or need besides the fear mongering they ran on all EneMedia, Radio, Entertainless 24/7/365 because there was no personal or visual, or near knowledge that backed up their willing narratives of propaganda.

And so mush more with their removal of options and even choice of option which was the very reason TRUMP removed the regulations controlling medications to allow people a choice, which they removed … more pay to play and insider trading with royalties for murder.

Now we know there are many , many, many, many trillions of reasons they released a biological weapon from their labs (all 5 Eyes+ and China) and another bioweapon/patent*? with the not a vaccine vaxxxine.

*You can find all Five Eyes countries were involved with the labs and the SARS virus. Canada was one of the last to play with it before sending it, with vociferous complaints from scientists, to China. Besides Faucci/0bama gain of function funding.

Retired scientist (EE/CS) early 70’s in age, CHF, obese, in other words, with serious co-morbidities. It did not make sense to me how injecting a pathogen that our cells would keep manufacturing, would do more than overload our immune systems. What ENDS the spike protein manufacturing? Does our immune system kill it? If it remains inside our cells, causing them to produce spike proteins, how do they get out of our cells to trigger immunity? Do the spike proteins inside our cells keep reproducing until the cell dies? No one could explain the end of this. What makes the body finally stop reproducing the spike proteins?

Top that off with early reports of dire side effects and my natural skepticism of new, untested medications, especially an entirely new technology, made me nervous. I was even leery about Vioxx when my doctor prescribed it, and quit taking it after a few doses. I was right. My dear mother was skeptical of food additives like BHA, BHT, TBHQ, partially hydrogenated oils so I fortunately avoided those all my life, again– it turned out to be the right thing to do.

At the same time, the late Dr. Zelenko explained a simple cure that I UNDERSTOOD: Zinc. But, as he explained, it needs a zinc ionophore to get it into our cells, hence hydroxychloroquine. I did a LOT of reading and was surprisingly turned down by my clinic-employed physician, who said “It’s not our policy”. Then, Fauci, the AMA, the FDA, CDC, and WHO all denied hydroxychloroquine’s efficacy, and later the same with Ivermectin. WTF? I read many reports that touted these to be the best therapeutics available against Covid. So, with the LYING medical establishment, I was convinced not to trust them further than I can spit, got quercetin (a natural zinc ionophore) and added this, zinc, vitamins C and D (15,000 IU to get it to the optimal levels in my bloodstream), Lysine, lactoferrin, and lecithin from sunflowers. I am vax-free and Covid-free, and this regimen SHOULD keep me from getting colds, flus, and the scary renaming of these, RSV.

And masks– which have 0.8u pores while the viruses are 0.3u. The analogy of stopping mosquitoes with chicken wire is very apt.

The medical establishment lied to me more than once. They can go pound sand. I would go out in a blue suicide before succumbing to their cauldron-created potions.

No jab for this kid! I have not trusted the government or what they said for years, so when the china virus appeared, I began to follow things VERY closely. It did not take long for things to start not adding up. When Trump got the virus and was over it in a few days, I paid attention to what he had for treatment. I did some research and figured out that Ivermectin was my best bet so started taking it weekly along with some vitamins and supplements. Not long after, I discovered the FLCCC -a fabulous and hardworking assemblage of doctors and other helpers. And yes, I have lost friend – two very close life long friends who are now very lukewarm to me – to be kind! I speak my mind to all, and have had a few converts! I shudder every mornng when I wake up, wondering if any of my friends or family have been hit by some malady, as most of them have been jabbed.

My resistance story starts with flu shots. I noticed the couple of times I got a flu shot that I had more colds and illness than any other cold and flu season. My conclusion was the flu shots compromised my immune system, so I never took one again or had my kids take one, despite the incredible and disgusting annual flu shot propaganda and pressure.
When the Covid hysteria started in Feb 2020 I did some research about infections vs deaths and came to the conclusion they were vastly overstating the risk. I was frankly flabbergasted when everything was shut down and people were so scared. I kept looking at the numbers and they never supported the hysteria.
When they started talking vaccines, because of my flu shot experience, I did some research and determined I was never getting that shot and convinced my husband and one of my son’s not to either. Unfortunately, my other two sons were more concerned with rejoining society, but so far they seem okay.
For our local family, we never stopped meeting together all through the lockdown. Some got the shot and some didn’t, but everyone remained civil. My husband had a few friends that refused to see him because he wasn’t vaccinated, but I’m not very social so I didn’t have anyone to meet anyway.
I work for a federal contractor so my job was in jeopardy in Nov. 2021, but got a religious exemption plus my company delayed long enough that they never let anyone go because the lawsuits suspended the mandate. My husband is disabled so doesn’t work anyway, but he plays in our local symphony and was unable to do that until this fall because of a vaccine requirement.
In conclusion, I’ve taken my last vaccine after a tdap shot I got in Aug 2020 caused me feel I’ll for two week. I also happen to get bloodwork done a few days after that shot and it showed greatly increased inflammation, enough that my doctor was concerned. I told her let’s wait for 6 months and sure enough, all the levels were back down.

Government experiment, two words should have scared anyone, to never volunteer, God Bless all who thought twice and pray for the people who are boosted up that they be safe.

83, wife a bit younger, good health. We did sometimes get the flu shots.

When COVID-19 appeared in Jan ’20 I started reading all the links to technical/medical people. At that point it seemed like a dangerous disease and we stepped up our personal precautions — less shopping trips, etc.

When the vaccines came out I was still reading and I was shocked to find that the most highly credentialed virologists and epidemiologists were saying that vaccinating everyone in the middle of a pandemic was wrong (would drive variants and make it impossible to achieve herd immunity) and then shortly after that an mRNA vaccine was a potentially catastrophic idea.

Somehow Geert Van Den Bossche (and the rest) were more convincing than Tony Fauci.

My wife travels a lot and attends large meetings; we talked about it and I discouraged her but she got the J&J shot anyway, as it seemed less dangerous.

I never got vaccinated and we dropped all the mandated and other precautions after Feb. 1 of 2021. When I am required to wear a mask to visit a medical facility — very rare now since I wouldn’t trust a doctor to tell me the sky is blue — I use their mask and throw it on the floor as I leave. No single group is more contemptable than the modern U.S. doctor — though Congress comes very close.

The big difference is that Congress never claimed to ‘first do no harm.’

My wife experienced low blood pressure pretty often after getting the J&J shot; her cardiologist discontinued one of her medications. There is a theoretical reason to believe that spike protein could cause that though her cardiologist didn’t mention it. Otherwise she has had no symptoms.

We shortly got appropriate anti-COVID medications and have taken them preventively a couple of times when we thought exposure was likely. Neither of us has been sick, though.

I have tried to discourage our family from getting vaccinated but some had to do so to keep jobs. I don’t know that any got more than one and AFAIK nobody has had side effects. One couple did have mild cases of COVID. A number of middle age and older local acquaintances died suddenly this year but we don’t know if they were vaccinated.

The mRNA vaccines still look like a catastrophe for America.

Nothing matched. Everything felt crossed eye. Reactions, mandates, rules/recommendations, death counts, and the hyperventilating media. People I consider smart were, let’s say, overreacting. There was no point at which I even considered taking a “vaccine” – it’s only called vaccine because they changed the definition. It was the vaccine that validated my decision in the first place. The fact they pushed so hard made me double down. The fact the control group was wasted to zero fanfare. No thanks. None of it made sense then and, now, it’s all they can do to re-write their own narrative.

My story for not taking the Jab.
Retired Vet, 85 stint in one artery, some damage 15 years ago which put me it the higher risk category
Finally had covid several months ago, along with the wife. Both of us had sore throats, very low energy for a few days, no fever, or other sickness. Have had much worse colds/Flu.

My wife and I lived in the Southern CA area several years ago. We have been Christians all our lives, and active in church. We had the privilege of attending a church (Calvary Chapel) with Pastor Rob McCoy. I was a board member for a while, and really got to know Rob well.

First, a little Rob McCoy background. His dad was a well known Navy Admiral, so he lived in several countries growing up. His dad was very strict, but loving. At San Diego college, Rob was an All American swimmer. He was also a Thousand Oaks CA city councilman, and was the Mayor when that nightclub shooting happened. He was part of that large group of pastors that spent a lot of time in DC getting Trump elected, where he got well-connected to some very high ups, including lawyers.

At the present time, and when Covid hit, we had moved 100+ miles North of that location. We began watching Rob’s live-streamed church services, as the churches got shut down for that famous 2 weeks time to slow the virus, which our church was doing the same. He also started a Fireside Chat YouTube program, with some great guests. Right after Easter 2021, and about the time that Trump declared the church’s as essential, he opened his church back up, no masks, no distancing! The County tried to shut him down, and were going to arrest the first 1,000 that attended at one point. We drove down for that service, but didn’t make the first service, but got in the 2nd of 4 services. We couldn’t believe the mass of people there. Many had flown in from other states. Kirk Cameron was there, as that was where he was attending, and was on some of Robs Fireside Chat programs. Also, Charlie Kirk claims him as his pastor. Rod travels a lot with CK to many of his appearances. Later we found out the sheriff had arrived early, and told Rob they were not going to arrest anyone, and just continue on.
Now this was all before a vaccine, but we were learning about all the false info about Covid from watching all of Robs videos, etc, along with reading all of Sundance’s blog post here.
Then when the vaccines came out, Rob would have the frontline doctors on, and many other high profile people, Waring about the dangers of the vaccine, much like Sundance has done.
Then there is that little voice we get, and have learned to follow as Christ Followers, that says, Danger, be careful.
God Bless Sundance, and all you fellow troopers!

Bill Gates’ full name is William Henry Gates, which rearranged, spells Hell Awaits My Reign. Yeah, not listening to that guy. The Gates of Hell, AKA Bill Gates, ain’t prevailing over me.

Also, Event 201 and Operation Lockstep are veritable blueprints for their planned biomedical tyranny over humanity. Eerily reminiscent of PNAC (September, 2000) which mused about a catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor, that would bring about the revolutionary transformation of America. 9/11 happened, and the insidious fourth branch, the intelligence branch, got their new Pearl Harbor, and without delay, as though premeditated, the birth of a tyrannical new era in electronic surveillance. Both are deep events and the parallels are sickening.

Saint Paul the Apostle soberly reminds us:

“Put on the armor of God so that you may be able to stand firm against the tactics of the devil. For our struggle is not with flesh and blood but with the principalities, with the powers, with the world rulers of this present darkness, with the evil spirits in the heavens.”

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

God bless.

I and my family chose not to receive the Covid-19 Vaccine.

There were a couple of reasons we chose not to, but the over arching reason, is because we felt an inward prompting not to.

In different circles, people call it different things. My family recognized it as a prompting or manifestation of the Holy Ghost, a gift we were given at baptism. This was an unusual experience in this instance, because leaders of our church did speak out in support of the vaccine, but we felt impressions that we followed and did not do it.

There were a couple of other reasons we chose not to, but the one above was the most influential. There was, early in the vaccine release, a diagram showing males absorbed the vaccine most effectively by having it injected in their genitalia, which obviously seemed ludicrous.

Other reasons were based around prior health conditions. My wife had a previous blood clot during pregnancy, a child had a birth defect impacting their heart, and I’ve been struggling with health problems for a while.

As a family, we considered the options, prayed together and chose to follow the prompting of not receiving it at the time.

Simple research on MessengerRNA tech early on in 2021 from a decade earlier, revealed trials with animals caused a 70% fatality rate in the little critters one year out. Yup 70% fatality rate. I’m a professional medical scientist so reading research is my thing but the abstracts were easy to understand even for a lay person if they ever got the chance to review.

On another note, the degree the government and the big pharma cartel villainized any type of treatment, no matter how safe or effective it appeared to be, ended up being responsible of at least a million deaths, all to create fear on a virus that was not that dangerous to begin with. How many died from the government mandated protocols of intubation? Now we are dealing with a huge vax related fatality and injury issues and the coverup of those issues continue at least for now. Million of people died and have been injured un-necessarily.

My current pinned Twitter Tweet for 2023:

#FauciLiedMillionsDied #NoAmnesty #Nuremberg2

My husband and I did not take the jab for so many reasons which I know others have mentioned here. Experimental jab with not enough testing; did not like what I read about Mrna technology; no trust with the medical community or the government; etc. etc. Almost everyone we know took the jab and many, but not all, have had side effects. Two close relatives now have cancer. Two more distant relatives have cancer.
We will rely on God. We also stock-piled ivermectin, HCQ, zinc, antibiotics, quercetin, vitamin D. We did consultations with MyFreeDoctor and also a local practice that was on FLCCC and got all of the prescriptions we needed. They were all filled locally. We have not gotten sick but all but two of my jabbed relatives had all had covid multiple times.

I didn’t get the vax even though I was caring for my 83-year-old mother. She did get the vax…Phizer 2 shots. I didn’t get it because it was experimental, pharma had immunity from liability and I really just thought I’d wait for awhile to see if the vaccinated started growing tails or something. Then I started hearing about vaccine injury, miscarriages and that the vaccine was created using fetal cells. That clinched it and I vowed to never get it.

My bro-in-law was forced to get it as a supplier to the auto industry. My niece was forced by the hospital she works for as well as the university where she’s working on her Masters. My sister took it as a show of support even though she had very high antibodies as a result of earlier COVID. My nephew and his wife did not get the jab. His wife lost her job. The medical facility she worked for gave her a religious exemption for the flu shot but refused the same exemption for COVID.

Everyone in my family has had COVID. Both my mother and I got Omicron. Me first, the her a couple months later. My bout was pretty easy – flu-like symptoms for a couple days then sleeping 23 hours a day for about a week. I took Quercitin, zinc, C and D. My mom’s was a little worse, but then she’s in her 80s. She took steroids. The doctor wanted her to take Plaxid but I urged her not to and she didn’t. Everyone else had Delta and had it worse but came through it ok.

Anyway, everyone is ok so far, thank the Lord.

Sundance, I live in Calif. California recently passed a bill that allows the medical board to take away any doctor’s license if they promote treatment that goes against the governments health protocols. I didn’t get the shot, but because I had a doctor who knew and understood early preventive care I survived Covid. I was very sick with it for six weeks, but with the help of his knowledge I stay out of the hospital. I truly believe that many have died because they were not able to get a alternative treatment with repurposed drugs. This bill cannot be allowed to stand! I want to be able to fill whatever drugs I need for preventative care recommended by my physician. My fricken pharmacist refused to fill my repurposed drugs in the middle of being sick. My luck came when I was sick during a holiday weekend and was able to transfer my script and to a different pharmacy which filled it without questions. Here in Calif. you can no longer get those drugs. I really do feel that they really are trying to kill many of us who can’t take the shot. On top of that the same fricken pharmacist turned me in to my insurance carrier who later called and wanted to talk to me about my meds choices. Things have gotten really crazy in California.

“… a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground…”

Sundance,

In the CW2 novel I am writing, I refer to this more accurately as the “underground lava sea”.

It is populated by folks who have seen enough government overreach to know, not suspect but KNOW, that government is not their friend.

I’m the guy who starts conversations with random folks while waiting in the checkout line. You’d be amazed at what people say about what’s going on. And they are very very unhappy about it.

Sorry, no potatoes to be found in the lava sea.

And gentle readers should clearly understand: the only reason we are not Australia or UK or Spain or Italy is because we are very heavily armed. Can there be any doubt?

The Second Amendment leaves actual, raw political power exactly where it needs to be: tiny pieces broadly dispersed in tens of millions of capable hands, no threat to any government which is not a threat to us.

For now, the fact that we CAN fight means we don’t have to. No matter how hard they try to provoke us. And they are trying very hard, which only makes more people jump into the underground lava sea.

I did not take the vaccine. #1 I was almost positive my wife and I had gotten it in early Feb 2020 as we were visiting family on the east side on Seattle where one of the primary entry vectors occurred from China and came down with the classic symptoms. I was better than my wife who ended up with an unknown viral pneumonia that plagued her for over a month but did respond to treatment. I was 95% sure we had natural immunity from contracting it already so I didn’t think the risk was very great.

#2 when the big push and media scare started coming I was concerned but decided to wait until the older folks got it first and more became available. Then they started predicting doom on all of our nearby big population centers so I started paying attention to news from there and NOTHING like the scale predicted was occurring.

The bottom line is that nothing the government was telling us was adding up and Fauci was the biggest lying politician in the front, he was literally on every side of every issue. I have a healthy distrust of the government to begin with and that just solidified my resolve to stay clear. If you don’t rely on MSM, you can find some balanced reporting if you cultivate good sources with a good track record. I trust Sundance to give a logical and sober perspective and then weigh it against the rest along with some critical thinking on my part.

In the first week of March 2020 (in central NY and living in near isolation) I was very sick with either an especially bad flu or COVID, but it had nothing to do with my foregone conclusion that I would not get a vaccine of any kind ever again despite being in a supposedly higher risk cohort (normal weight, but 68 and with documented immune and [undocumented] related issues). My by then long acquaintance with aspects of the dark side of medical practice in the US from reading, from personal experiences, and experiences with pets after the big push with vaccinating pets began, as well as bad experiences with one or more generally safe medicines and one that was later pulled from market, were enough to dissuade me without a second thought. For reasons cited by Sundance and other commenters I saw everything “COVID” from nearly the start for what it was.

I have sold medical devices for 25 years. I know the process of getting devices approved. I also have friends in the pharma industry and I know how long it takes to get new drugs approved (more than a decade, typically). Then Fauci and others in government pushed too hard for people to get the clot shot. The media pushed too hard. Then the politicians tried to bribe people with burgers, gift cards, etc… Then OBiden mandated the shots for corporate America and soldiers. That was more than enough to tell me that there was no way in hell I would allow my family to get jabbed. Bannon’s War Room started reporting early about the dangers of the shots, which only reinforced my own beliefs that it was bad news. My sister and her husband got 3 of the shots though I begged them not to. She’s been more sick since and I worry that she’ll just wake up dead one day. I know two people who died within months of getting the shot. Damn these evil bastards to hell.

i will not use any medicine that was provided for by the deliberate killing of babies.
i do not care that they claim there are no direct cell lines in use- I do not care that
this is –by some–considered a matter of remote material causality. The fact remains
babies were killed to create and test the vaccine.

I suppose that it goes back to the BS alleged human caused global warming. I knew we are all the target of lies.
The first Chinese videos of people drooping in the streets from the Couff had me worried. Then the Diamond Princess cruse ship stuck in quarantine in Tokyo showed 80% of the population was already immune, and something like only 7% became symptomatic, and a small number of the passengers and crew died. Not to bad as a worse case example. As time progressed, it became clear that Nazis under 70 years of age, BMI under 26 and in good health had little to worry about.
Watching the development and approval, I took the time to look at the safety data submitted by Pfizer for the mRNA jab. The 3 month data had 14 all cause deaths in the vax group, and 13 in the control(as I recall). Not impressive, I decided to wait. Not to much latter the 6 month data came out, and the vax group increased its lead in the all cause death. Then Pfizer spiked the safety trial at 6 months, not the 3 years it was supposed to run.
So, no vax for me. Pressure from wife and relatives, to which I replied that the safety trial was incomplete, and my personal risk from Covid was small. I probably had the much feared Covid Jan 2022, 3 day cough, GI upset for a week, low fever, tired for a month. Now I have natural immunity, and no mRNA gene juice jab for me.

Curiosity may have killed the cat but it was my lifelong habit of constantly asking why that drove both my professional and personal life prior to the arrival of Covid19 and I saw no good reason to abandon it then.

My late dad’s adopted philosophy of the line in Rudyard Kipling’s poem ‘If you can keep your head, when all around are losing theirs…’ permeated my childhood. His wartime experiences coloured everything including what he taught us about assessing risk and staying safe in our journey through a world that could become dangerous in the space of a heartbeat.

Panic, he would explain, often kills far quicker than staying calm long enough to think things through before taking action, even if the time you have to think is minimal.

So I comitted to staying calm in a world now inhabited by panic merchants of every variety, in every direction – political, medical, pharmaceutical, and journalistic. To say nothing of family and friends who were losing their minds all around me.

I made it my mission to use my professional experience and curiosity to dig deeper, research what I could and assess it for myself. I questioned everything including why I was seeing things that others were not.

At no point did I like what I was uncovering- about masks, about pandemics, about fear as a method of control. When the political class here shut us down, locked us up and refused to listen to dissenting voices, often highly qualified voices in their specific fields, banned doctors from prescribing drugs that had been proven safe for decades, fed us scary numbers in daily press conferences, and limited our time outside exercising to an hour per day, but allowed supermarkets to continue to trade as if fresh air was dangerous but a food store and its workers were not. It was then I knew we were being subjected to nonsense and propaganda that anyone with minimal schooling and an ability to think clearly should have been able to easily recognise. To my shock and dismay, almost everyone around me did not.

I stopped ranting or trying to change minds, it was an exercise in futility. But I did continue to question everything and dug deeper into the research. What I discovered made it clear to me I would not be taking any vaccine that had so little testing behind it or that had not succeeded in demonstrating efficacy or safety. What testing had been done did not demonstrate positive outcomes. Our government indemnifying them from any liability for injury cemented my decision.

It was not easy to resist the scorn of friends and even harder to go against the guilt trip that two of our adult children took us on. It was a stressful and lonely few months filled with doubt as we continued our defiance.

An elderly aunt in good health died in her sleep two days after her first shot. One of our sons only took it because he would lose his job if he refused and suffers chest pains and heart issues to this day. Another friend has severe psoriasis that only appeared after the shots and is not responding to treatment.

All subjective, I know, but enough of a concern to be more than mere coincidence.

Yes, we have lost friends over our choices but our family ties have survived only because none of us will raise the topic again. On the other hand I was surprised and gratified by those we encountered who agreed with our decision and continue to participate in the fight against medical tyranny and for freedom to choose our own course.

Trust but verify was my motto prior to the pandemic but it is now: verify, verify, verify then maybe trust. Conditional trust only though, I’m not that foolish.

I have been following you Sundance for years . But never make any comments on line .
My wife & I are both 65. We live on 40 acres up in MTS , Have a 2000 ft runway & hanger , Organic Gardens & green houses We have never had much to do with Doctors as we do most all our own Doctoring. And after getting out of the Navy I told myself I would never take there vaxes again in my life .In the navy on the USS Midway you get new shots at each port we sailed into. You lined up like cattle and they blasted shots in each arm as you walked threw the line. After getting out I told my self to never allow this again in my life. 10 years back I healed my wife’s cancer with 100 percent cannabis oil that I personally grew organically. The only time I used a doctor my self was 3 years back when I fell off a 20 ft ladder when working on my hanger roof and broke L2 and L3 . The vet did surgery & mostly repaired me . But they made me do a covid test before I could have my broken back repaired. Pissed me off having to take there fake test .But really need to be fixed back up so I could get back to flying all my fun aircraft. I make my own Colloidal Silver  by the Gal. I also make my own Chiorine Dioxide (MMS) and CHS. I help family and friends get healed all around me. It just makes me fill good helping others . I can knock out skin cancer on folks in only 10 to 15 day with the cannabis oil I make up from the Organic cannabis I grow legally here in Wa. State. CHS & MMS kills off Covid quickly . But as back up I got 4 tubes of Horse ivermectin in case it is ever needed. But the MAIN REASON IS I DO NOT TRUST Docs or the Government at all , never have. We live up in the MTS in SE WA.near Hell Canyon We are PREPPERS and have all we need with out the help of any one. Wood stoves and back up monster Generator take care of us when storms knock out our power. I personally Iam ready for Nuremberg 2.0 . MASS MURDER really pisses me off and Iam ready to hang some really bad scumbags. I pray for all the folks that die daily from being murdered by the dam VAX. Iam ready to take our country back from the NAZI trash any time I am needed to do so. . Love y’all be safe

I wasn’t in the risk group, and I worked in drug discovery for over 20 years. No way I was taking an experimental vaccine platform with the safety data not worthy of a Phase I small molecule drug trial, not mention an immune modulating drug.

It was a simple measurement of risk/reward, and had I been mandated to take it, I would have flat out refused, and sued the next day if terminated.

I went with my gut instinct. Out the gate i was like this is just the flu variant. AND I wont take that anymore…I had 16 different flu shots while I was active duty so I’m pretty sure im ok in that area by now. The way the govt and CDC acted in the early days simply wasnt consistant..It wasnt logical.. So I was against any and all advice from them.

It IS very good to know that I am not alone. Thank you Sundance and Treepers!

Also joining late. I did not take the shot.

From the beginning of the covid frenzy, I was skeptical. The reaction seemed extreme, and the lockdown unprecedented. I was staying with my sister, who lives eight hours away, when the lockdown began, and she was very nervous about covid. She wanted me to disinfect the car if I drove anywhere, wipe down bags, the works. In her defense, she has a genetic disease and related health problems and was really worried. But I was completely unconcerned and would have taken no precautions at all, except for washing my hands more often (something I’ve always been careless about).

I was already reading alternative news sources and had relied on supplements rather than pharmaceuticals for fifty years, so I was primed not to believe the propaganda. By the time the vaccine was available, there was no way I would take it, and I told my husband that if he chose to get it, we would no longer be sleeping in the same bed. I gave him enough information to convince him not to take it, despite the fact that all his tennis buddies fell like lemmings.

Practically all the people we know are vaccinated. Very few people in our area whom we know have had problems, and thank God our daughter hasn’t either—although I wonder whether our granddaughter’s severe PMS has anything to do with the vaccine. But ou nephew, in his early forties, knows ten people around his age who have dropped dead since they were vaccinated. And my 52-year-old cousin in California—vaxxed and boosted—died of a heart attack last May.

i have never regretted my decision. My former employer, a university, has been mandating the shots for everyone. I simply will not comply. I refuse to be vaxxed, or masked, or fearful. I don’t care whether I can travel, or enter locations, or do anything else. Refusing to comply no matter the consequences is the only way to stand for truth.

To keep the story short, when I saw the fear being created and the solution dangled at the same time, natural skepticism caused me to pause. Not being unable to read and comprehend scientific literature, when facebook friends, some in the health care field, were pushing the vaccine so hard, I decided to visit the NIH website and peruse some of the literature myself. Having already received pushback from facebooks algorithm for some earlier opinions, when they got downright nasty upon sharing actual scientific papers in their forum, I knew it could not be good. Those same papers caused me to go from open minded to firmly intending to remain in the control group of an experimental vaccine one author begged them to perform animal studies on first before rolling out to the world, something I think every prior vaccine has gone through before being used on the general population. Not only was it experimental but, they wanted to skip every safeguard. No stupid sign hanging around my neck. I know how science works and taking the word of the top government scientist at his post for eternity would be the last opinion I would put any weight on. He proved his willingness to put politics before science in the first week of taking center stage.

Firstly, let me say how refreshing it is to see so many people actually thinking before doing. This vax campaign was all about fear and peer pressure.
Now to answer the question – I did not take the jab. There just wasn’t enough information available and when it was being forced on us, I knew I would never take it. My job was threatened, but fortunately the Supreme Court decision came out just in time. My husband had the initial jab(due to his job) and paid for it for over a year. He is a very active person – fishing, tennis, hunting, etc. He could do none of those things due to pain in his legs. I am happy to say that he is doing well now, almost two years later. Our adult sons have not had the jab due to the fact there was no evidence to support what the CDC was saying. Our daughter lost her job at Newell Brands because she would not take the jab. She started her own business as a result and is going great. Our other daughter is a nurse and has taken all of the jabs. My parents, who are in their 80s did not take the jab. My father already has heart issues and was pressured by his doctors to take the jab. He held his ground. Neither of my sisters are jabbed either. We lived our lives during COVID. We met regularly due to forced isolation. That isolation is what I believe killed my 20 year old niece. She was in Froedert Hospital in Milwaukee battling leukemia. She had a bone marrow transplant in August and was not able to see one family member. She died on October 22. She did not die of COVID, but as a result of the nonsensical COVID lockdown.
Thank you, Sundance, for all you do. It is greatly appreciated.

Many reasons, but the primary one, which is two combined into one, is history.

1. There had, previously, neve been a successful coronavirus vaccine developed for any coronavirus, human or animal, and many backfired spectacularly.
2. mRNA was developed in the 1960s, and the 1970s were spent figuring out a way to get it into cells. And between then and 2020 any and every attempt to use it in any kind of therapy failed, and in some cases, made the problem worse.

So my reason- we take two things with an abject history of failure, combine them into one thing, and “Look! It’s the newest and best vaccine ever developed!” Nope, not buying it. Not especially since was chance of my dying was essentially zero. Because of another thing we knew early on in the covidiocy. A Vitamin D level of 50 ng/ml and you might get sick, but you weren’t going to end up in the ICU or die. I was having mine tested on a regular basis because a VA practitioner was deathly worried for me that I was overdosing on Vitamin D. Steady right around 50 ng/ml year round with the amount I take. The right amount is different for everyone.

I knew beforehand that vaccination is often ineffective in preventing infections for viruses that can mutate rapidly and evade the induced immunity. I suspected that that might be the case with COVID.

I had one or more bouts of COVID early in the pandemic, and I could not expect much additional immunity, if any, from a COVID vaccine.

I was also breastfeeding, and concerned about risks to the baby. In Summer 2021 I looked for information on the CDC website. They recommended that pregnant and breastfeeding women get the vaccine, while admitting that not much was known about the risks. They said there was an app called VSAFE that women could use to report vaccine side effects.

Incredible. Either they were using women and their babies as guinea pigs, or they already knew enough about the risks of the vaccine and they found those risks acceptable-for them.

My family and friends all got the vaccine and were surprised that I did not. They didn’t ask me why, though.

There were some people that I didn’t see for a long time, but they are slowly returning. My health and theirs is about the same.

I’m coldly furious that the medical establishment gave millions of people false hope that COVID vaccinations would end the pandemic. The knowledge I talked about in the first lines came from a popular science book from the early Eighties. Fauci knew. They all knew, or they should have known, and they should have told us.

20 years ago when we had our first child I studied shots and got a dvd that explains them. We stopped them from giving our baby all those shots back then. Only the major approved ones. I took what I learned back then with the fact they rushed this jab. I don’t trust anyone in government except Sarah Palin.

Next question Sundance.. Who is responsible for the Virus was it made in a Lab ? Where did it start and how did it spread so fast…And why did they attack us with a virus? DOD said said it was an act of war not a health issue. I remember Nov Dec 2019 many of my friends and relatives had a terrible Flu type respiratory issues My nurse son in NC told me they were seeing many strange types of Pneumonias more than normally…I followed GW October 2019 he said it started @ Wuhan military games.

First off, hat tip to Sundance for being there for the normal people. I also refused to take the jab but for reasons I will explain here. I worked in the medical field for 21 years until ozerocare was forced on everyone. Yes, I paid fines for not having insurance as well. First off, if you want a flu shot or a shingles shot all you do is walk in the pharmacy and get one.

This covid jab was totally different. You had to call in advance, give all of your personal information and then they would schedule a day and time for you. BELLS GOING OFF! This should tell everybody that we all don’t get the same jab. If we did all you would have to do to get it is walk in to the pharmacy and get it. Not so with this one. Plus social distancing and masks? PLEASE!!! All I can say is Thank God for the 2nd Amendment. Looks like we’ll need it someday! Blessings

Red flags for me? The embryo content and the massive investments by pro-WHO ideologues aligned against national sovereignty. Later I saw the Israeli ‘canary in the coalmine’ trends released 5/21 that confirmed my biases -I simply concluded the medicos in-charge like Fauci and Birx and Collins were ignoring the dangers, malicious and selling everyone out. We went with Front Line Doctor hints and got over Covid quick enough.

I think God provided Detroit for mass produced transport during the MAD Cold War threat of fallout, and then God provided the internet as an answer to the establishment TV/radio/paper “news” for the current war when enemies of humanity decloaked to hoax millions with their depopulation injections. (I am talking about the zero empathy malthusian cattle car ideology inside the UN and Agenda 21 -Bill ‘spreadsheet head’ Gates is their posterboy but there is a cast of thousands).

In Australia something different happened that set off skepticism in many, even in non-religious and WHO – Agenda 21 – NWO uninformed. I haven’t seen it reported much in the north of the equator.

We saw local professors and doctors react strongly against the insanity of Apr-May ’20; “Please go home and isolate if you have early symptoms and come back when you can hardly breathe”. A centrist talk radio jock with a national audience had a parent very ill with Covid and when a famed Professor gave alt treatment that worked as advertised (Ivermectin etc), the bulk of the broadcast and print media followed through with publicity. For months anyone who got positive or wanted to prevent infection could visit a doctor and obtain a prescription. My boss did. It took 2 weeks for the pharmacy chain to fill the prescription due to huge demand (shortage of supply). In fact, my own prescription was too late and never filled -the bureaucrats stepped in and ordered it all stopped.

All medicos were given an ultimatum to stick with the NWO program of mRNA of be booted out of the Guild. In fact the “threat to vaccine rollout” was admitted in the order. Strangely the same explicit order that had Ivermectin declared a poison (around 10/20) also exempted some minority groups who were allowed to take the poison.. LOL. Masking, isolation periods, all throughout ’20’21,22 but we stuck up a middle finger while pretending obedience, just like POWs.

Therefore, we had to erase our memory of the April thru October 2020 alternative solution we had all witnessed and detailed, or take up the murky NWO lockstep order to take the jab. Incredible propaganda campaigns were ramped up and ramped again when the re-jab and re-re-jab and re-re-re-jab comedy followed. You just have to laugh at this clownshow.

We ignored it all and simply scrounged around for Ivermectin in India or self-supply locally via Sikhs.

Finally -half the world is still unaware they are sitting ducks if another virus catches them while having a MRNA disabled immune system. This is should be a national security priority. But the BlackRock Oval Office feeds the MIC jumping castles in Ukr and thinks of nothing else.

If you read this far – Trump. What part did Trump play, other than revealing big pharma evils?
“Think mirror.” “The shot heard ’round the world.” “We are in a silent war with a hidden enemy.” And the 50,000ft view signaled by his referencing a movie – “Red October.” We are expecting the bad guys to double down. They are just like the Clintons. Its how you know them.

Hi Treepers,
My story is I was suspicious about the shot immediately. I mean come on, experimental use, Pharma would not be held liable for injuries, previously good medicines available that were banned – with doctors threatened with their licenses revoked if they prescribed them? I was scared too at first, but started reading as much info as I could. Simone Gold convinced me to wait.

In the meantime, my son and his wife decided if I didn’t get the shot I could not be around my grandchildren or them. As of writing this, I haven’t seen them since Dec. 2020 (and that was before Christmas that year). I have left leaning girlfriends that I grew up with and all 4 of them decided I was wrong to not get the shot – and they abandoned me as well.

I am so thankful that I read as much as I could and really am sad that so many people were fooled by the media, Fraudchi, Pence, the CDC and scarf lady.

God bless us all!

I retired 4 years ago when I was diagnosed with stage 3b breast cancer. That medical journey encompassed a year of my life. I am grateful to my brilliant surgeon who, while rolling her eyes at many of my questions and requests, did indeed step outside of her direct experience and humor me and help with some alternative drugs that my research had shown was likely to increase my survival and quality of life.

My oncologist? No kudos to him. While very smart and also a research fellow, he did not care to assist in anything that was outside the standard of care.

I spent the last 3 years rebuilding my immune system and my body, and destressing my life, spending all my time with the people I love and enjoy, and the hobbies I love.

When the coof came around, I started searching for any possible therapies, just in case. It’s how I found Tenpenny, Kory, Zelensky, etc. I read the Great Barrington Declaration and it made perfect sense. I was already doing all the supplements, and I added some tubes of horse paste to my medicine cabinet just in case.

I also watched the Great Silencing of alternative opinion. Anyone who knows me will agree that I am the least conforming person ever. My kindergarten report card noted that I didn’t play well in a group. I’ve spend my life avoiding crowds. I’ve also honed an antenna for bullshit, and it was getting a 5×5 signal. When celebrities jumped on the No treatment, just vax bandwagon, it was the sign that the vax wasn’t what they said it was.

So, when Trump was ridiculed for any of his treatment ideas like HCQ and was derided for (falsely) saying we should drink bleach, Malone, Kory, McCullough and many others were silenced, doctors parroted the party line but had no science behind the pushing of the vax, I just knew it wasn’t a good idea for anyone to get it. My body, my choice. I don’t give in to coercion, and coercive was how it felt. It was inconceivable to me that no authority was looking for treatment options before Remdesivir and the ICU. I thought not in the history of Western medicine had this ever occurred.

I have no regrets, and furthermore, with all the research I’ve done, there’s not a single vaxxine I’ll ever take. Ever. I haven’t spent 3 years nurturing my immune system just to throw it away now.

As I talk to people, it is astonishing how many sleepwalked thru 2 years before waking up. But at least they’re awake now.

I didn’t do the jab either and I am glad I did not. I have probably had COVID thanks to China and Saint Fauci. But I survived to fight on. I’m not anti- vax. I don’t like seeing the definition change for convenience and money from the government. Oh, excuse me,….us.

They were demanding we take it for a virus with a 99% recovery rate. That’s all I needed to know although I have a solid medical and biology education and figured out the rest. I never even considered getting the “jab”.

Initially, I had concerns about the vaxxine’s safety and efficacy. Moreover, it was becoming increasingly clear that the risk of severe illness and death from the virus was greatly exaggerated, and for me, personally, virtually non-existent… I endured pressure from all sides to get the shot, though, ultimately my refusal to take the vaxxine was simply my little, personal F.U. to the illegitimate regime and everyone who supports it…

I’m 70 and in reasonable shape for my age because I have worked my ass off all my life and got a degree and a JD under less than ideal circumstances. My Dad died for this country and I will die standing and not on my knees in his honor. I love this site and people who actually think as a way of life not as a way to make money.

I did not get vaxxed because I read an article by Dr. John Ioannidis of Stanford on Mar 17, 2020 warning of a fiasco in the making:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/
Once I throttled back, I began searching out other credible voices. Then I saw Gavin Newsom state that CA would suffer 25.5 million cases of Covid by June. A simple Excel spreadsheet showed me that would require a doubling of cases every few days–for months.

I do not suffer from innumeracy. My basic critical thinking facility made me research epidemiological pandemic doctrine and question why we would–contrary to doctrine–quarantine the healthy. As time went on, my basic understanding of geometry allowed me to see that the spread of a virus aerosol that was 5,000 times smaller in diameter than the hole in a surgical mask wasn’t going to be impeded by that mask. Basic understanding of dosage allowed me to realize that nobody was going to get Covid by passing somebody walking on a sidewalk.

When it came to the vaccine, how were they going to compress years of safety testing into a few months? Can nine women make a baby in one month? And once the vaccines rolled out, the unwillingness of the manufacturers to disclose the trial data for 75 years was the clincher. Nothing says “science” like hiding data.

Looking back, with a very few exceptions the only people I knew who had critical thinking skills but still took the jab did so because of employer mandates, insane media fear mongering, and lack of efficacy and safety information. My wife has early COPD and was highly recommended by her GP to get jabbed. She got a bad case of Covid six months later that we treated with Ivermectin and corticosteroids. She will never take a booster.

There were a lot of things that kept me from getting the shot(s,s,s). I can’t say exactly in what order these were. Early on they started bs like “stay indoors!” We know that fresh air and sunshine are healthy things, so that tripped my alarms.
They demonized providers and anyone who asked questions. That was a big one but came along later. Asking questions in science is forbidden? Um no. Just no.
The tone was one thing and the fact that multiple “competing” news outlets used the exact same language may have been one.
When the CDC numbers started coming out I looked at age, morbidities etc. and realized that at 50 with no co-morbidities, my chances were less than of a car wreck on any given day. That told me that the hype didn’t match the data.
When they changed the definition of what a vaccine is, then I had NO doubts that this was some kind of massive fraud. You don’t change the definition of a medical term from “protects” to sort of a “might prevent unless it just treats…”

My skeptic status didn’t help any of my family – son and daughter in law got the shot before I knew they were getting it (to keep their jobs). Father is a biologist who watched the hours long state briefings (sometimes daily) in a state that lost about 100 people in the first year+. Especially in that NE state, the sheeple are panicked out of all proportion – in the first year, they’ll cross the road to avoid a maskless person.
Brother and sister both got it on the first go-round but I think they haven’t boosted. Sore subject and their decision, so I’m quiet about it.
Pretty sure I lost a work colleague to the mandated vax. I did file for an exemption but it was pretty much at the end of the push and I had several plans to avoid the shot.
It might be heritage or genetic stubborn but if I’m told to do something that doesn’t make sense (especially this level and the stakes) then I’m probably not doing it. Going about your business and not advertising that you’re a hard no gained me no extra attention.
More recently I have tried to engage my father – but when I trashed his epidemiological argument he switched to a statistical argument. At that point I had to give up because I love him. He’s entitled to be wrong, he’s literally betting his life on it.
Wife and I did get what we believe to be covid. Worst for my wife was nausea, not wanting food and dizziness.
I was mostly unaffected – might have had a slight fever but went to bed early. Since I was remote working I didn’t take any sick days but didn’t really need them either.
Since I had such minimal problems (only get the flu once every 10 years or so) it was also very suspicious to me that there were apparently NO scientists looking at why some get it bad, some die and some have very few problems. That didn’t sound like science either.

Full disclosure: I’m neither very religious (to claim any religious exception) nor am I particularly anti-vaxx.

I was seriously scared for about a month and by ‘seriously scared’ I mean that the word “sheitless” doesn’t even begin to cover it. Then I started to look at the numbers at home and overseas (Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, UK, Israel) and realized rather quickly that the numbers did not add up. Interestingly, the Germans were particularly sloppy… The inconsistencies were staggering.

The lockdowns and mandates in blue states and Canada, aggressive censorship and attacks on every doctor and/or scientist who dared to ask questions + the number of hoaxes and frauds the government perpetuated over the past two decades pretty much convinced me that it was just another gigantic con job. As George Carlin once said, “You don’t need a formal conspiracy when interests converge.” And converge they did; money, power, control, electoral fraud, get Trump, not necessarily in that order.

An additional factor was the mind-boggling uniformity of lies (and anecdotes) told to me by the doctors and health care practitioners I used to trust, as if they were repeating some talking points or reading from the same script. It was surreal.

I begged my parents (in their late 70’s and early 80’s) not to take the jab, but my brother who is an MD/PhD convinced them to get “vaccinated” and “boosted.” As a result, my father suffered a massive stroke and my mom is now affected by an autoimmune condition. Just to be clear, I have no definitive proof that either the initial jabs or the so called “boosters” caused the stroke and/or the autoimmune condition to develop. But the timing in both cases was quite suspicious.

Neither I nor my better half are vaccinated against SARS‑CoV‑2. None of us got sick.

This is as much as I can share.

@Sundance I wrote one post re: the External reasons why I refused the jab re: my distrust of government and health entities. The Internal reason I refused is that I had life changing consequences from complications with my last pregnancy 30+ years ago which ultimately culminated in a diagnosis of Hashimoto Thyroiditis and then Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I believe the viral infection that caused the CFS also impaired my heart function; I have intermittent SVT, so I guess you could say I had Long COVID before it was cool; way back when they used to put you on antidepressents because it was “all in your head.”

I KNOW my immune system is whacked, why on Earth would I serously consider compromising it even more by playing Russian roulette with an experimental “vaccine” that is going to do its best to commandeer it? I don’t ordinarily cuss or swear but H E double toothpicks NO – NO WAY. It shut most people up real quick during the height of the pandemic when I told them I have autoimmune disease and I am not messing around with that stuff.

P.S., hubby and I caught COVID in August of 2021 and did just fine using high quallity supplements and breathing treatments.

P.p.s., I know of at least two people who have complications from the jab that I did my best to try and talk out of getting it. One has myocarditis and the other admits they haven’t been the same since.

I’ve always viewed my great health as a gift from God and work hard to be a good steward of it. We raised our kids with fresh air, made-from-scratch meals, gardened without chemicals, and we were careful of what we put in and on our bodies. So of course we were skeptical of injecting a new gene-based technology! (I could never understand why a generation of people who rail against “GMO” food willingly became GMO themselves…???) We never even considered taking the shot, being healthy and in our late 50s. We did tons of research, stocked up on all the suggested therapies and went on with life normally in our rural, red state location. We both came down with the Delta variant a year ago, and while I came through it pretty easily, my better half spend 10 days in hospital fighting to get O2 levels up from the 80s. We had immediately taken and done all the right things, but there we were. The hospital doctors continued to push for vaccination, but we resisted, and had the support of our local doctor. Now a year later, we are daily thanking God for renewed health and a better-than-ever marriage. My eyes have been opened to the corruption of the pharmaceutical and medical agencies, and especially the corruption of the government.

From the very beginning in Dec 2019, the information we were being given about Covid seemed suspect. I spent hundreds of hours researching Covid and subsequently the vaccine. I decided Covid was not a risk for us, but the vaccine could be dangerous. So no jab for me. I’m retired and never even get a flu shot. In good health!

I’ve enjoyed reading what people have to say in this thread and agree with much of it. It has taken me a while to figure out my reasons for refusing to the shot. I could say it was because by the time covid came I had lost faith in government after seeing how President’s Trump’s achievements were received by everyone except for “we the people” for whom he spoke and worked. I could also say it was because I had polio as a child and so had lots of experience with our medical system and except for a few good practitioners here and there am not impressed, though until covid I had no idea how corrupt our health system is. As time went on it also seemed covid had the same mortality as the flu and was not what the “system” was promoting.

But what my refusal came down to, what changed me forever, was the hideous and unfathomable cruelty of bureaucrats in power who attacked when someone presented possible ways of treating covid (such as when President Trump discussed Dr. Zelenko’s protocol), who created a system where people on respirators died alone when the system knew a cheap drug like ivermectin would help, and who stood by when bureaucrats sent sick elderly back to assisted living facilities to spread the disease and die and this while hospital beds stood open (charity beds and President Trump’s hospital ships and it seemed not all hospitals were always full).

All these things and more seemed to be the actions of lunatics. I started wondering in what universe did their actions make sense. The answer I got is their actions had nothing to do with fighting covid and everything to do with an inhumane agenda that I still find almost unbelievable and yet is so real. God help us all.

Both my husband and myself did not take the vaccine. I have an autoimmune(Sjorgrens) and early on it was stated that hydroxychloriquine(which I take) was a treatment for it. I then added other supplements that Dr. Malone mentioned would also help and I never got Covid. My husband also didnt take it because he understood that RNA helps write the DNA and his take is what exactly was it rewriting. It was just too experimental. Neither one of us trusted the government at that point and the constant bombardment on tv, social media, news, ect. to take the vaccine only added to that distrust. Our instincts said stop and wait and review all the information that was coming out. Once it was known that we would have a 99.98 percent chance of surviving Covid and zero percent chance of any side effects that we had made the right decision.

I am 58 and am not jabbed. I served in the military for over 30 yrs, at some point in my career I started to become quite skeptical of government and the press, thank goodness for alt media. Three reasons I didn’t get jabbed:
1. What are the long term side affects of the M-RNA jabs? We are starting to find out now, but I think it may get worse.
2. When they started pushing the Vax Cards I knew this wasn’t about saving lives, it was about control.
3. When I was a kid, I always remembered being told by my elders to never trust the government.

For the sentence above, “Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision?”

Yes, and I will not lose any sleep over it. I mentioned this about two weeks ago in a different discussion, and realize that I am not alone in my circumstance, there are most likely several hundred thousand people that had to decide this, to maintain their Integrity and more importantly, their Accountability to G_D for not following the herd in the health care emergency disguised as Evil manipulation that was being forced on everyone. I will not comply.