I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

We took the initial vaccine because we are old and at some risk with other morbidities. I am 85 and my wife is 78. However, we have ignored the “boosters” and my younger son and his family have refused the vaccine. I have been a physician for over 50 years and am concerned that parents are avoiding real vaccines, like measles and mumps, for their children. The mandate for the use of the mRNA “vaccine” in children was completely senseless and will probably result in greater risk of common viral disease. Chickenpox, for example, has a 25% mortality if the patient is post puberty. Few probably remember the “chickenpox parties” when mothers took their children to be infected at an age when it was harmless.
Michael K — the problem with “real vaccines” is how do we trust the scientists or doctors?
Remember the army using soldiers for guinea pigs to experiment with the effects of LSD back in the day? What about the fake medicine for aids?
I don’t trust doctors now if I need surgery to not give me a clot shot without my permission.
If life saving operations and transplants are being denied patients who refuse the vaccine — how the hell do any of us trust doctors?
Plus, are/were hospitals getting paid for patients who died if the diagnosis was COVID? Were people allowed to die so hospitals could profit?
My OBGYN claims to be breastfeeding after taking clot shots. How does anyone trust this idiocy when young people are dropping dead on a daily basis after being vaccinated?
Trust the science my ass.
Lorrie, agree. Back when I was a kid (I am now 67, will be 68 next month) science was real science and doctors were real doctors. Now, like with everything else, the ones running the show (like DR. Fakeci) are fake. It is all about power and money, money, money.
When “Science” became $cience, when it became verboten to put forth a hypothesis to be proven or debunked without being discredited by one’s profession, when any legitimate concerns are censored or ignored in favour of one size fits all talking point?
It’s not science…it’s propaganda. And worse…
Let’s also consider the DNRs which were slapped on patients even when their families vehemently protested or did not know that was being done.
The more we learn about all of this, the more monstrous it becomes
I remember those get togethers. Once my mom found out one of the neighborhood kids had the chicken pox she took all of us kids over there to be exposed also. I hated the itching, still remember it more than 50 years later.
Will, what a coincidence. We both had the chicken pox at about the same time (in my case, 1973).
Not only did I have the itching and blisters, I also lost my normal vision for a few minutes. I could still see everything, but all the shapes and places were in a storm of tiny black and white dots. But my 3D vision still worked, I could still walk around. I did not feel afraid.
And I recovered OK (it sounds to me like you did too 😀 ). And here we are, 50 or more years later. Natural immunity (real science), I never got chicken pox again.
I understand your concern as a physician about parents now avoiding vaxes you feel are necessary and give little to do side affects for the benefits to both the child and the community Michael K.
But the medical profession is going to have to live with what they have done to all of us by pushing this nasty debilitating covid nonvax.
Many are now suspicious and will not trust what a medical provider tells them about anything and to be honest these medical providers deserve it.
It is a real shame that they have destroyed the trust and faith their patients once had in them to give honest, solid medical advice.
So now here we are in America where parents now think, and deservedly so, that their family doctor just might be lying to them when a vax or any kind of medical procedure is suggested.
The medical profession has brought this on themselves.
And yes it is a worry and a huge concern that now parents will not bring their children in for honest, decent medical care but I really can not blame them.
The lies the medical profession have pushed for this non vax have been more over the top than I have ever seen in my life of 69 years.
It will take a long long long time for trust to be re-established by medical professionals.
Just to acknowledge what you say is true. I have a granddaughter who has not received any vaccines except for measles, mumps, and rubella, a third child. I’m proud of my daughter for keeping her kids at home and homeschooling them. It seems that they are after the children and nothing gets a Mama Bear more fired up than that. If one of the children gets really sick, there’s a quick trip to urgent care, but a Pediatrician?? NO. Who can be trusted any more?
I attended such a party, and then spent several days in my bedroom, with blankets over the windows to keep it dark IIRC because when infected you were to avoid sunlight ?
In the hour long conversation between Dr. Malone and Tucker Carlson, Dr. Malone made an “in passing” comment I don’t think got enough attention;
He said he reviewed the available data on childhood vaccines, and ALL of the reductions in infant mortality, ascribed to the infant/child vaccination programs can ALSO be fully explained by the improvements in sanitation/hygiene that ocvurred in America, during the same time the vaccination programs were ‘rolled out’.
So, maybe those childhood vaccines aren’t such a great thing, after all?
And, “reputable” stories that Big Pharma is rapidly switching to mrna technology, to make “childhood” and flu vaccines, has contributed to people becoming sceptical of taking, or having their children take ANY vaccines.
Both my daughters, in their 40’s now, survived childhood without taking ANY vaccines, and did “fine” without them.
I think the whole concept of VACCINES is like a LOT of things, it HAS a limited, even valuable use, but has been greatly overused.
Vaccinating those at risk, who are immunocompromised, have “co-morbidities” makes sense. Particularly with diseases that have a high morbidity for otherwise healthy individuals.
Vaccinating healthy people, not so much. The old system of “chickenpox/mumps parties” actually worked pretty well.
Totally agree with your assessment of vaccines. Got the usual to attend school in the 60’s(smallpox, polio) since then only an occasional tetanus shot when needed, and have to say even that one has a spotty history. I generally don’t go to doctors, pretty adept at self care. If I really think I need one, then sure, but I can take care of myself pretty well.
Dutch,
I have a BS Microbiology/Chemistry and my Immunology Prof in 1977 said the same thing about sanitation, clean water and hygiene breaking the back of many of the infectious diseases.
When they started jerking us around with the lockdowns after “15 Days to Flatten the Curve” I suspected more lying was going on. Then I found out the PSA test was providing many false positives and it appeared to be deliberate since Fauci said the test should only run around 25 cycles, but FDA told everyone to run 40 or more cycles. There had to be more lies, and there would be more as stuff came out about the vaccines, so I started out hesitant. They had to be lying about the jabs, too, and it didn’t take long to find out.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/the_facts_about_pfizer_and_biontech_s_covid_19_vaccine
“2. How does an mRNA vaccine work?
mRNA, delivered to your body’s cells by lipid nanoparticles, instructs the cells to generate the spike protein found on the surface of the novel coronavirus that initiates infection.1,2 Instructing cells to generate the spike protein spurs an immune response, including generation of antibodies specific to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.”
No, the spike protein made by the mRNA is NOT like the spike protein found on the virus, therefore the antibodies formed are not “SPECIFIC TO” the spike protein found on the virus. Pfizer didn’t dare use that spike protein because of the danger of it binding to an ACE-2 receptor in a cell. The SALK INSTITUTE warned that the spike protein can cause the gene expression in a cell to change.
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/
To get around the danger of the spike protein, the vaccine developers MUTATED the spike protein in the lab, making the Pfizer Web site claim that the vaccine made the same spike protein on the surface of the virus was made by the mRNA vaccine in the cells FALSE. A DIFFERENT spike protein was used, throwing Immunity into question.
Number 2: The vaccine was claimed to “stay in the arm” after injection, but right at the release of the vaccines in December 2020, this interview of vaccine developer and Phd in Immunology, Dr. Shane Crotty appeared on You Tube informing us that the vaccine does NOT stay in the arm, and was NEVER DESIGNED to do so, since the developers wanted the vaccine to interact with “rare immune cells” found elsewhere on the body. “Stay in the arm” was touted as a security feature of the vaccines.
Number 3: The spike proteins made by the mRNA vaccines stay on the surfaces of the infected cells and DO NOT wind up in the blood stream of the recipient of the vaccine. This was another “safety feature” that Dr. Crotty inadvertently refuted by informing his interviewer that some spike proteins could get into the bloodstream but would be cleaned up by the immune system. This is all under question now because of this:
The Shane Crotty interview:
I am afraid to even read this and other posts.. I have read/listen to a lot of them and have a file of many for reference. Hence my husband and I have NOT gotten any shots. Some in our families have and some have not for different reasons. Some of my siblings kids have given their parents the choice.. if you want to see your grandkids, get the vaccine.. and they have. But I will listen to your links.. so much evil it overwhelms and saddens me. Today would be my Marine fathers 98th birthday. I am glad he cannot see what this nation he defended has become. Rest well Dad,, one by one your childen will be joining you in our own times. But the vaccine will not be my demise.
Thank you for this – I’ve been looking for something to send to granddtr, that was easy to understand (for both of us). This along with links was it! I have listened to Dr. Malone on many interviews stating mRNA should be tested more.
No one in the family is jabbed (I posted my story early last nite). However, what is extremely concerning to me, I have read they (you know them) are *considering* using the mRNA system in children’s shots & I have a 7 mo great grandson –
Yikes, the worry never ends!!
To add to my earlier comment when this article was first posted, I admit to being totally freaked out and overwhelmed by mask adverts. People were making pretty flowery ones, scary looking ones, rainbow ones, and designer ones.
How on earth could something so “deadly” and so “serious” become a fashion trend? No one was forcing them to mask up, they were embracing it in all the colors and designs of the rainbow!
COVID didn’t make me fear death. It made me fear my fellow man.
“It made me fear my fellow man.” Me too!!! Friends I thought were reasonable and rational fell for it. Fortunately everyone of my family members (both sides), didn’t fall for it. None of us are vax’d.
Someone I counted as a friend became a totalitarian, and angry freak! They got vaxed, boosted, and triple boosted. You could smell his fear of death. He never questioned it.
He died of blood clots in his lungs.
How sad. A needless death.
I want those responsible in jail.
so tragic.
same here
I don’t usually get colds or flu and so have no concomitant fear of them. But, my brothers did urge me to take precautions and I told them at the time that I didn’t believe in the ‘pandemic.’ That I had watched a series of ‘health’ crises float by in the proceeding two decades–I listened as the morning news predicted panic–and I felt strongly that it was a forced narrative. Prior to that, I had investigated vaccines and their negative effects on my dogs. I did that in the 90s and had pretty much determined they were bad for my dogs. I also taught one year at an AF base in the 90s and my students had been subjected to the Anthrax vaccine. One of them wrote a research paper on the experience, the side effects and all of my students were in disbelief that they were required to take the vaccine for no apparent good reason. The student who wrote the paper actually quit the military rather than take another shot. And finally, I was really really angry about a decade ago when a doctor suggested I needed a tetanus shot. I thought at the time it was a long shot–but I was in a lot of pain and not thinking clearly and agreed to it–after the shot he handed me a brochure informing me that I had also been inoculated against whooping cough and scarlet fever. I was livid and lost a lot of trust in the medical community. Finally, I don’t believe in taking drugs–I don’t believe in untested new products–I wouldn’t take a new medication anymore than I would take a new ‘vaccine.’ I don’t feel that my body is a test laboratory. And I don’t believe anyone, just cause and I really don’t respond well to coercion.
There has never been a scarlet fever vaccine. Scarlet fever typically occurs after a Strep Throat infection.
The vaccine you had would have been the DTaP or a variation of it which is a combination of Diphtheria, Tetanus and a-cellular Pertussis antigens. The vax manufacturers have not made a stand alone Tetanus vax in decades. Now days you can get a dT or a Dt vaccine. The capital letter indicates a major antigen in the vaccination.
I agree that you should have been told it wasn’t a stand alone vaccine and left it up to you if you still wanted it.
And just think of how many potatoes don’t want to discuss this publicly. Intellectual discernment indeed
Number 1 reason is God gave me a pretty darn good immune system. Number 2 is I no longer put any trust in anything government. Number 3 is it was forced on me to have a job. Number 4 was I was one who contracted that flu very early and had built immunity. I lost my job over this and like an elephant, I’ll never forget that!
I’m retired and the decision was easy — not sure I would have had your courage. I hope I would have had. People like you give me hope about the future of the country.
I caught what I believe was Covid in very late 2019. I understand natural immunity and was not at all inclined to get the shot. I heard Dr. Judy Mikovits early on express her concerns about the shot and Fauci’s role in pushing it. I worked for a large publicly held homebuilder that badgered us daily on our vax status. In disgust, I resigned. Sadly, my adult kids and their spouses rolled up their sleeves.
Eric, like you, I may have got Covid in very late 2019, before it was officially announced. Woke up one morning and I could not walk, that is how much my legs hurt. Had to drag myself on the floor to the bathroom when I woke up. Since I could not drive, my son called his employer and got a day off so he could take me to medical care facilities.
They blamed it on arthritis, but I did not follow their advice on how to deal with it, because I felt it did not make total sense. I just took pain killers for 5 days, and fully recovered in 5 days. Yes, I do have some light arthritis problems (I am 67 now, will be 68 in a month), but almost NONE compared to that day in 2019 (almost 3.5 years ago).
Hmm. I believe Covid was released on purpose BEFORE it was officially announced. And now my son and me have been through it and have natural immunity (I was isolated with him for 2 weeks when he supposedly had it, and did not catch it from him. Natural immunity. He fully recovered from it. Natural immunity.), and so do my daughter and her children. Sadly, my grandson had to take the jab because if he did not take it he would have been fired.
What the corporate NWO puppets do not understand- yes, the jab makers have been given lawsuit immunity by many gubmints (which will be argued in courts all over the planet when the time comes⚡), but the corporate puppets who forced their employees to take the jab are NOT covered by that ‘immunity’. If my grandson dies because of having been forced to take the jab, I will sue the corporate puppets who forced him to take the jab. And so will millions, maybe even billions of people, they will sue corporate puppets.
What the arrogant NWO puppets do not see coming- many actual judges will lose family members to the jab, and they will actually do their job, do the right thing, and go after the NWO and their corporate puppets…BOOM!
the vaccine had too many side effects and had low ratios of benefit to harm and benefit to risk
Simply put and 100% right!
I never got one because I knew the virus didn’t exist. How did I know this? I discovered the Rockefeller medical industrial machine years back when I thought I had contracted the non-existent virus they call HIV. The HIV scam is the exact same template as the Covaids scam. Proclaim you have discovered a new virus by blasting it out across the world (they own all media), invent a bogus test, and roll it out across the world. Follow this up as soon as possible with a deadly drug and away you go. Have you ever wondered about the ‘Spanish Flu’? They did the exact same thing. Read the series of experiments run by Milton Rosenau on behalf of the US Treasury in 1918. They categorically prove the ‘Spanish flu’ was not transmissible. It was primarily caused by experimental vaccines and masks. Does that sound familiar? What we have witnessed over the last three years is a testing pandemic. If you don’t get tested you don’t get the Covaids. It is that simple.
This is why I and all my anti-vaxxer friends haven’t been anywhere near or hospital in the last three years. The only threat to your health emanates from the criminal gang that calls itself your government.
For me the entire affair seemed off. Not one thing but many. The paper announcing genetic sequencing in Jan ’20 of the virus that was immediately taken down. The footage of fake patients dropping like flies in China and convulsing on the ground. The reports of massive crematoria use in Wuhan that could not be validated, then all but disappeared. The lockdowns, the fear mongering, the money printing press throwing trillions into the machinery, the over the top efforts to descredit early treatments, the failure to recommend exercise, healthy living, sunshine, vitamin D, zinc, etc. All of it painted a mosaic for me that was crystal clear. Stay away.
Saddest part is finding out that Milgram nailed it. We are surrounded by sociopaths.
Yep, most if not all congress critters and C-suits of corporations are sociopaths. Only a few sociopaths become serial killers.
First off
Love this site
Thanks for all your work that you put into it
I myself have not been to the doctors in the last 30 years
When you read about all the side effects from all the different kinds of medications WHY would you put that stuff in your body
I did get covid way back before it was widely known while working in California but I got through it
To this day I don’t trust any doctor who likes to give out all kinds of meds
I believe in the power of faith due to being told 31 years ago I had 2-5 years to live
Well I guess they were wrong
It was a matter of common sense. An expermental gene therapy “vaccine” for a virus that has a survival rate over 99%. No thanks. Unfortunately common sense is not a common commodity anymore.
I was aware in early 2020, before the vaccines, that they have been trying (and failing) to develop a coronavirus vaccine for farm animals for over 40 years. Every attempt failed, all the animals died. Summer of 2020 I laughed at the “fact checkers” declaring Trump’s boast that there will be a covid vax by the end of the year a “lie.” Shouldn’t they at least wait ’til the end of the year to label this prediction a lie? But I couldn’t see how they could possibly have one by years end when 40 to 50 years of attempts on farm animals failed. I like to think they’d be a bit more picky for humans than cattle.
I never even heard of mRNA vaccines until November, 2020. So I looked into them and discovered that, not only has no mRNA vaccine ever been approved, but no mRNA vaccine has ever been approved for human trials. That made for a big a$$ NO from me!
My son was in the Navy for 9 years, was planning on making chief and retiring from the navy, had his whole life mapped out … he got kicked out for refusing the experimental vax and is still unemployed. He made that decision himself with no input from me. I assumed he’d have to get it being in the military, but I was very relieved when he refused it. I honestly thought he’d have another job by now though. I’m both worried (for him) and pissed off (at gov’t) at the same time.
I was lucky. I worked at USPS, the only place unvaxxed work was allowed, and I was already in the process of retiring so got out shortly after the mask and daily test mandates started. Phew! A lot of people put in for retirement when the madness began and the backlog was YUGE!
I have one sister with TDS who had already distanced herself from me because I like Trump, but I heard from another sister that she thinks me and my husband and son are all some kind of evil murderers now because we dare walk the earth unvaccinated. It’s all very sad, but it is what it is.
As an adult (some may question that), I have had no ‘shots’ since childhood. I am on no medications, add supplements to my diet (which includes lots of onions and garlic). Other than a scaffolding ‘incident’ resulting in a badly smashed ankle, I do not visit doctors… preferring to make conscious decisions to maintain good health. As I have had ‘the flu’ a few times in my 87 years, I trusted my immune system to handle this one. The ‘nail’ securing the decision to ignore the ‘jab’, was an article I read early on, about the ‘control group’ results being wiped out, etc. In addition, it has been decades since I had any faith in governments, having witnessed so many incidents of their malfeasance. Of course, no one can predict what may befall them with regards to their well-being, I get plenty of exercise, have a good diet, and a positive outlook is key.
Strike One: Mass Exemptions for our betters…and their loyal staff. (Really? Are we not supposed to notice this?)
Strike Two: Deliberate, methodical and consistent suppression, censoring and corruption of legitimate technical analytics, the scientific method and due diligence itself, across media outlets and even the internet. EXAMPLES: The Great Barrington Declaration, America’s Front Line Doctors, the VAERS and DMED databases and the vax test regime as described in previous posts. This is Gross Criminal Negligence in information dissemination and governmental policy. Nuremburg Code, where are you?
Strike Three: Operation Mockingbird cont’d; the self-dealing totalitarian Democrat/Media complex, Quisling Republicans, Woke Corporate Kultur and the execrable, pedantic virtue-signaling across the board. This Cold War vet remains well attuned to (Soviet style) influence operations re-cast as ‘Behavioral Economics’ and the Critical Theory structure therein.
WARNING: If history rhymes, it rhymes with The Bible, not with Marxist J-school screed.
Doom On You, communists.
This is an addendum to my original post as I’ve had the opportunity to read through many other posts.
It is heartbreaking to realize the devastation these jabs have had on family and long-term friend relationships. I, too, had a long-term friend who “blocked” me and wouldn’t talk to me for a year because I wouldn’t mask and “I might be responsible for someone’s death”. Then, recently she missed talking to me and we reengaged. However, in a recent conversation, she indicated she had finally taken the jab and she “felt good about herself” for doing so. This from a woman who is both intelligent and a very talented, capable person. I had no words, knowing how much negative information has become available about the jabs. I can only pray she maintains her health.
I pray for all of you who have experienced devastating relationships and even death within your family and friend circles. It is sad that I believe many of us “No’s” have lost all trust in the institutions that have seemingly sustained us in the past. As a Christian, I am struggling with the attitude of other Christians who willingly may step into the “cattle cars” when asked. I pray for divine guidance on this because I often fear we may be close to such a scenario. Nations keep falling. The latest to fall is Brazil.
The “cattle cars” is all I could think of as I watched people I love dearly taking the Jab. Only a handful became hateful and self-righteous. Those who did, I thought to myself, “distance yourself from them” because they are the ones who would turn Jews over to the authorities. They were “good Germans”. The German people believed in a lie and millions of people died because of it. The Jews were demonized via mass propaganda, their businesses and livelihoods destroyed, then they were accosted in broad daylight, so much more, and then finally loaded into the cattle cars while the “good Germans” sang loudly in their churches in order to drown out the sounds of screaming.
My God, what have we become??
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
It was exactly this massive urge to bring attention to this genocide which pushed me to post too many images on a previous CTH post. (implying a cause of death) Which in turn got me moderated. It was not my intention to abuse the system. I use the name MASS PSYCHOSIS for a very deliberate reason.
Sundance… your choice of the term “intellectual discernment” sounds right to me. Thanks. I suppose Critical Thinking is about the same.
Why I did NOT take the shot:
It’s not a Vaccine. It’s a Zombie Kill Shot. We knew it then. and we know it now. I’m not a professional scientist but the technology just did not add up in my mind. Besides, who the H*LL wants to take a DNA altering shot for a virus that has a 99.5% survivability rate?
(Note, yes I had C19. It was bad and I went to the ER. Yes, I survived. Thanks Dr. Z. May you RIP)
Also struck me that it was never properly tested. Only advertised and Forced. That’s BIG NO in my book.
My wife didn’t take it, my elder child did not take it and my younger son did have one single dose against my wishes in order to return to his freshman year at college. That was enough for him.
There were many reasons my husband and I decided against the COVID vaccine. Neither of us were in any “at risk” group, our faith says no to use of aborted fetal cells, the concept of therapeutic proportionality and in general, an adversion to medications. We try to stay healthy and use common sense when we are sick.
We were questioned quite often by extended family members as to why we would not jump on the shot bandwagon. Although my husband received a religious exemption from a work mandate, he was laid off for about 6 months ( no pay). I took on two part time jobs. We have a son in the military who refused the vaccine. His military career is now shot to pieces. We counseled our college age kids and they decided not to get the vaccine. Fortunately, their university did not require the vaccine. Luckily, the majority of our close friends are like-minded when it came to rejecting the vaccine.
Some of our extended family members who took the jab now regret it. Only know of three who took the booster. The rest said, “No more!”
It is sad how many people I know took the shot out of fear. They really thought it would protect them.
Why take an unknown course of treatment that is rated 95% “effective” for a “disease” that kills less than 1% of the population? The math doesn’t work. I am 75, so according to the “experts” I was a “high” risk and should have pushed to the front of the line to get my Wu Flu jab.
I was immediately suspicious of all the hype beginning in early 2020 when I learned medical facilities would be paid more for people being diagnosed with Wu Flu (especially if that was listed as the cause of death) than those who weren’t. Do I believe that under such a system medical “professionals” would honestly code people properly? No, I do not. I never believed for one minute any of the statistics Fauci and the CDC were spouting about anything. Later, when I learned the US government had a hand in funding the lab in Wuhan where the “disease” originated, I was even more skeptical about all the bee ess that was being spouted. Then the mask fiasco. The vast majority of the people were wearing an ineffective mask. They were also wearing it ineffectively, dangling from one ear or pulled down, so it served as a neck warmer. I know. I was one of them. I couldn’t breathe properly with the mask in place and only wore one anywhere near my face when I absolutely needed to due to my job (later rescinded).
Did I lose friends and family when they found out my wife and I didn’t get the jab? You becha. We became persona non grata. It’s a real shame that something this phony could destroy relationships that had been established for years, and in some cases, for decades. That being said, I’ll never question my decision not to get the jab. BTW, my wife and I both got Wu Flu in May 2022. The symptoms lasted for 3 to 4 days and resembled a cold. I certainly can’t speak for everyone, but for us it was much ado about nothing.
31 pages and counting, thanks for this thread Sundance
I’m 84 and still work 10 hours per day in my cat boarding business. I’m in good health, don’t take any vaccines, haven’t for years. I seldom get sick although I deal with people daily that come to my business, many of them returning from vacation via Denver International Airport. In December of 2019 just after Christmas I got a very sore throat and bodY ached. I fed cats and then rested in bed when I could. After 3 days I was back up and running and recovered..suspect I had Covid but I just moved on.
As the lockdown came all businesses were supposed to close, I stayed open as usual. To the customer that were afraid to enter my business, (about half) I would meet them in the driveway and get or return their cat to them. I never posted Covid Warning on my door. I just went on as usual and here I am 3 years later going strong.
My wife, 83 is friends with a neighbor nurse who convinced her to get the Moderna Vac and one update. She has been very tired and now sleeps a lot with no energy. Otherwise no other symptoms.
December 2019 rings a bell for me too. Felt crummy for a few days with fever and sore throat. Some body aches too. Felt like what they call around here cedar fever. Maybe it was the kung flu.
And one more thing I forgot to add to my earlier post – when “they” went after HCQ and Ivermection so hard I knew the clot shots were bullshit. They never would have been give EUA status if HCQ and Ivermectin (both on the market for decades) had been allowed to be used as proven safe and effective treatments for covid. Once the CDC posted “come on people, you’re not a horse. Stop taking this stuff” I knew the CDC was in on the lies.
Because I’m not freaking idiot.
I educated myself before and after COVID hit. When I figured out the hospitals WERE NOT being overrun, in East Bay SF as was being propagandized I knew a scam was being run and trusted NOTHING after that.
An experimental vaccine being pushed by genocidal maniac Bill Gates?!! Like I said, I’m not an idiot.
Yeah, I remember when they were saying all the hospitals were completely full and overflowing. Every other day or so a neighbor and I would drive into town just to go by the hospital. They had two large tents set up, both completely empty.
Our county health dept posted daily the number of positive tests and the number of deaths during the scambemic. The numbers of positive tests never exceeded 10% of the county population – just another normal flu year.
Thank you – no one on either side of my fam talks about it, it’s like they know this whole thing was crap, but can’t admit it and/or don’t want to hear others thoughts/opinions. It’s like everyone is afraid to bring it up.
I posted in the earlier thread – I needed to get it off my chest – holding all this in too long.
Thank you for providing a place for this!
The tell was right up front. The gene therapy was first labeled a “vaccine”, well if you are over 60 like I was, taking a vaccine meant that you would NOT get the thing you are vaccinated against. When I began to hear that some of the vaccinated were getting covid, it didn’t compute. So the next question was, why get something that wasn’t going to protect you from getting the virus. Then I listened to a lot of the alternative media who were reporting on the possible side effects of taking this new “gene therapy” and after hearing those, I knew that I wasn’t going to take any of it. I also tried to tell my adult kids not to take the shots, but they had to if they wanted to keep their jobs. Fortunately, neither of them have suffered any side effects to this point. Thank God.
I did not take the jabs because the whole thing seemed fishy to me from the very beginning. I do not trust government or narratives that seek to manipulate / control people. I do not trust China or media or experts. The timing seemed intentional to harm Trumps re-election – just when his momentum appeared to get stronger and stronger.
Bravo!
Jabbed and boostered. Sitting in my car, waiting in line for the booster, every good part of me said “Get out of line and go home – now!”
But I didn’t get out of line. Why? Because I hadn’t seen my two small granddaughters in nearly two years. The smallest one had no idea who I am. The shots were the price of admission, so to speak.
And …
Once I learned that my six-year-old granddaughter had gotten the mRNA shot, I just didn’t care anymore about the side effects for me. Now my only concern and prayers are for that sweet little girl.
And her baby sister, who was still breastfeeding when her mother got the mRNA shots.
I probably won’t live long enough to see if, once grown up, they can bear healthy children.
I pray that they do grow up, healthy and happy and strong.
Count me in for the class action lawsuit. As a retired paralegal, I’ll donate my time.
Oh Fionnagh, you have wrung my heart beyond measure. I pray for you and your lovely family to be well. There will be justice one day for sure.
What part of blackmailing your parents into seeing their grandchildren is ‘lovely’ ?
That brought tears to my eyes. I’m so sorry. I do pray every day for my vaxxed relatives because I know they’re gonna need the prayer. I ask God to heal them every day.
Thank you for your prayers. I read all of your posts and believe God does hear, and grant, the prayers of godly people. You have always struck me as one of those:)
I am right there with you, Fionnagh. A lot of us grandmas out here will, and did, go through whatever was needed just to see those precious ones. My 5 -year-old grandson had it also – even after I sent my daughter information from Dr. Malone and others, telling her just wait and see. There is no rush to vaccinate. My grandson’s school had him excited to get the shot and he hates shots. I gave her a copy of Naomi Wolf’s book – The Bodies of Others- and as of now she has not vaxxed my 3 year old granddaughter.
I pray for you and your grandchildren too and I pray for the truth to come out.
I was scheduled to take a Mediterranean Cruise in late January 2020. The same timeframe in which people were fleeing from China due to the virus breakout. I started researching which led me to the NIH website and other sources as well. There was significant information there regarding GOF Research. The outsourcing of GOF to the Wuhan Lab by Anthony Fauci during the Obama Administration when a GOF moratorium was declared in the US due to pathogen escapes from US Labs. I also found the Ethical Analysis of GOF, demonstrating how many people would die if a GOF pathogen escaped. At that point, I started researching Ralph Baric patents of Chimeric Viruses. That rabbit hole led me to Peter Daszak and EcoAlliance. That sealed it for me. I knew at that point how the Covid-19 virus was developed. There was no way that I would take an experimental vaccine under the development guidance of Anthony Fauci.
Two reasons for not taking the shot. First and mostly my Dad would always tell me never buy a product when it first comes out. He would say let them get the bugs out. Second was that margarine commercial that had Mother Nature saying “It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!”
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Have not, and will not be ‘vaccinated’ against COVID.
My first ‘suspicion’ about the whole disease itself came early on with the ‘press briefings’ when Mike Pompeo said something about there being a ‘live exercise’ on-going . . . and President looked at him and said something to the effect that ‘it would have been nice to let others know that, Mike’.
My spidey senses right then told me that we were basically at war, and that casualties would need to be extracted by ‘whomever’ had decided to use this as a weapon. I was adamant that I would not fall for any of the Tokyo Rose types who were either trying to sweet talk people into doing anything so absurd (masks!) or strong arming people into doing something (lockdowns, mandates) just to freely assemble.
I Thank God I had very independent-minded parents growing up, and have never followed the crowd over a cliff.
I watched as President Trump tried to give alternative takes on the seriousness of this disease, pleading with his ‘task force’ to make sure the cure was not worse than actually getting sick.
I was exposed to covid right after Christmas in 2020, and experienced a flu-like illness at the beginning of 2021 — which shut-down my impetus to make it to DC for the election protest, which in hindsight was probably God’s Timing Saving me from the fate of the J6 political prisoners.
That the pharmaceutical companies announce a vaccine RIGHT AFTER the election also seemed highly improbable as far as timing goes, and I could foresee that there was some goofiness associated with that sequence of events.
I will not ever fault President Trump for instituting ‘Operation Warp Speed’ in order to get fast action on the ‘end’ of the ‘emergency’. I am actually glad that he has not been the one ‘in charge’ these last two years such that these ‘mandates’ and the wholly political ‘exemptions’ from same are not on his hands, because handing an exemption to the USPS has revealed that their handling of every MAILED OUT ballot is another blatant QUID PRO QUO by the criminal Joe in order to be ‘the big guy in charge’ of attempting to give comfort and aid to the enemy whom we, the people, are at war with . . .
Let’s put it this way:
They wanted people to take a TRIAL drug that had historically bad outcomes in animals…knowable from published research and disseminated quickly through the public. They advised people to take risk.
They FORBADE the use, by aggressively willing people, of ivermectin and HCQ with historically safe profiles. They advised people to avoid this risk–actually prevented, not advised.
Those two stances on risk tell everything.
It was a simple decision for me.
Once I found out that they were messing with something related to DNA, it was a BIG NO for me.
That is not something mankind should be messing with IMO.
And yet… Bill Gates hard at work financing genetic modifications in animals, food, etc.
I do pray the Lord takes that man off the planet. He has done irreparable harm.
Here’s why I didn’t take it:
I did not take the jab. First and foremost I will not be mandated to put “anything” in my body. That decision is between God and myself. From the very beginning of the plandemic it was obvious there were evil players and intent. I stayed up to date on the latest information (not from the mockingbird whore media). The more information I read. listened to, I was absolutely confident in my choice. I was fired from my job (of 14 years) without receiving over 80 hours of pto because I would not resign. I was among a handful that refused to resign.We were treated like we had the plague up to the date of our firing. My five veteran sons and their families (with one exception) did not /will not get the jab. Everyone is now on a higher alert regarding future immunization requirements and the vaccinations themselves. God is faithful. Some of my siblings (60’s plus) have received the jab, so far with no obvious side effects. Thank you for shining the light!!! May God grant us courage to continue this fight that is far far from over. peace & love
First, I couldn’t believe how fast everything…..everything…..locked down when they ordered us to. People I thought were in the same camp folded like a cheap tent. It never smelled right to me.
I always declined the flu shot. I don’t get sick often. I supplement like crazy, more so in the winter. I’ve kicked it up even more so during this Covid-19 situation. Something is out there, but it’s not what they say it is. From the beg, people like McCullough, Marcela and others said to get a viable vaccine, you have to isolate the virus. That’s never been done….even to this day.
Then it came out after the “election”, and people were starting to use the word “mandatory”….sorry…I don’t do well with that word, given my study of history and natural distrust of all federal everything. My dad even asked me if Trump himself came to my house and asked me to take it, I told him I would respectfully decline.
I haven’t taken it.
My wife hasn’t.
My daughter and her husband did…even though I pleaded with her not to. My SIL was convinced he would die otherwise. I hope someday he realises he’s wrong. My son hasn’t taken it. He hears what I say and makes his own decisions. After holding off, for some reason my dad decided to take it. I don’t know why.
My own doctor says it’s poison and he won’t give it to anyone. He’s prescribed me HCQ. He’s on our side, thank God!
Thanks for all you do Sundance!
If they’d steal an election with the virus they sure af would pull some shayt like that vaccine
During polio scare, my grandparents had rushed out to get their kids vaccinated ASAP! Obviously, they did this out of love and care. However, this early batch was “live.” My aunt went straight into a wheelchair for the rest of her life. She hated her parents for the whole of her life, it ripped the family apart.
So the family guidance was, “Never take a new vaccine. Wait at least 5 years before deciding.”
And then I watched this sh!tsh0w of civilizational unraveling…
I am a retired physics teacher. When the epidemic was first announced, I expected to catch the new flu, along with friends , neighbors and aquantances.
No one, including myself, caught the flu. In fact, no one was even catching colds. It was like stepping on the step that wasn’t there. I kept hearing words like deadly and pandemic, but still, to this date, do not know anyone who was hospitalized from the flu ( covid). By the time the jab came out, and all the ivermectin stuff happened, I was positive the shot was a weapon.
As a nurse what I saw was not how we practice medicine at any level. That was first. In nursing school I still remember the adage of never vax into a pandemic, yet we were. I could not trust any docs as they all were pushing the vax and now have tougher relationships with some of them, so may have to find new docs. Basically it was everything the gov was doing the incessant pushing of it, the more they pushed the harder I pushed back. had to get nasty with a few docs who did not respect my right to say no, they do now or we just keep it to what I am there for today. No, I never will take another vaccine. Also I will never let another liberal idiot scream in my face about no mask, next time I will go to jail and they will be seeing a dentist.
We never took it, even when threatened with losing our jobs (which didn’t pan out, but was still a scary 9+ months before the mandate ‘disappeared’). Our biggest reasons were the dichotomy between what we saw and what was being said in the news, the secrecy around the vax, no true testing, the huge government ‘interest’ in our health, and the fear mongering against ‘wrong-think.’ We were both prior military (aka lab rats with anthrax, etc.) and had a child diagnosed with autism after the rapid onset of symptoms from the 2-year vax cocktail so we were already pre-disposed to distrust. Our family was healthy throughout the whole stupid thing and is still healthy.
Born not trusting the medical people, I never take shots or medicine, never have. A no brainer here!
Remember way back when we heard stories of a virus disease in China, and we tried to figure out whether it had originated by interspecies transmission or might be manmade? I did not follow those stories, but believe that God has guided what I saw.
The first story I read with interest was about Dr. Zelenko’s successful treatment of his fellow Orthdox Jews with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax. A few months later I caught Dr. Pierre Kory’s testimony to Sen. Ron Johnson’s subcommittee where he recounted his efforts of treating Covid patients. He described ivermectin as miraculous.
Thanks to Tom Hanks, most of us read how Covid spread on cruise ships. Then about putting Covid patients into nursing homes (really dumb idea) at the same time there were two little used dedicated clinics set up in the Javits convention center and on a military ship President Trump had made available at the harbor in New York City. President Trump started taking hydroxychloroquine. I watched videos about Chinese efforts to prevent the spread and a doctor explaining cytokine storms. Trump got ridiculed, though he was right. 38 states passed laws preventing use of ivermectin.
We were all somewhat worried at church when Covid started to spread, so we cancelled worship for a couple months and then set up disinifection and spacing protocols. My husband got the jab. Ironically he had once worked as a chemist in a pharmaceutical company so we knew why developing a new drug took years, including animal trials. The paperwork with his inoculation had a term, “EUA”, that stuck in my brain. I was able to figure out that it meant the drug had not undergone all that many trials and that my husband was part of an experiment. I declined the vax. Later I learned that the term EUA had more sinister implications in that it helped prevent use of known safe, effective, inexpensive treatments.
My husband got more shots, and I didn’t. By the way, I believe that the definition of pandemic was changed very early on. Though the real numbers of people dying were huge, Covid was not killing many more than flu and colds. People succumbed to panic.
My husband and I got Covid last summer and both got over it. He took a drug prescribed by our doctor. I took supplements including Manuka honey, black seed, and Dr. Mercola’s probiotics; also Mylanta. It wasn’t fun, but we survived. I keep Quercetin Phytosome, zinc, and vitamins C and D on hand to counteract symptoms; they usually work fast and well.
The coordinated effort by governments around the world to immediately implement the draconian mask mandates and the quarantine of the entire populations except for selected special interests like box stores, liquor stores and cannabis dispensaries, along with the demonization and prohibition of historic and safe medicines being proven effective by physicians around the world before the jabs were even released, gave me reason to pause once the clot shots were released.
Then the broad and drastic coercion and bribery efforts to force jab compliance, as well as, the threats and intimidation of medical personnel to tow the line with the “official” governmental narrative of “safe & effective” in light of the actual results being discovered, was all I needed to cement my resolve to never get the jab.
Oops…and almost forgot the fact that several special interest groups such as Congress itself, Postal workers and other select groups were given exemptions from the jab.
Thank you Sundance for your part in spreading awareness about the truth about this tragedy as it continues to decimate through death and injury the unsuspecting populace.
I’d like to add that I was well aware that all the mRNA studies in animals were failures such that all the animals died during the studies even before the plandemic evolved. I couldn’t accept that,under intense pressure during an actual “pandemic”, a mRNA vaccine could be successfully developed in such an environment and be truly “safe & effective” in humans that was being touted. Especially when the big pharmas that were developing these “interventions” were hiding the actual trial results from the regulators and the public.
I had also became aware of the WEF and it’s Agenda 30 (formerly Agenda 21) and the simulation 201 held in 2019. These events also raised my suspicion in the whole plandemic and resulting jab.
Thanks for the opportunity Sundance. Proud to be able to add my experience with the clot shot,(which was an emphatic NO!). My oldest Grandson is in week two of boot camp at Ft Benning, he said NO corona virus shots there, so that’s what I call progress! Continue On Young Man! PS: he’s the fourth straight Generation to serve and we are Very Proud of him ! ALWAYS FORWARD!!
I worked in clinical research for 16 years at a state university. Before starting each clinical trial, I had to watch a video provided by the pharmaceutical company regarding the legalities of consenting study participants. It is illegal to coerce any person to consent to a clinical trial. I was told I would be fired if I did not take the “jab”. I gave notice and quit.Unfortunately my daughter , son in law, and granddaughter who also work in health care , took the jab to keep their jobs. So far, son in law and granddaughter are without adverse effects, my daughter has constant tingling in the hands and feet, unresolved, and “cause unknown” . This “study” was in violation of the Nuremberg code. People should be held accountable.
Well, I moved around a bit and didn’t go to a PCP for just under 20 years, 2000-2019. Cuz I was healthy. Haven’t seen a dentist in 30 years, have all my teeth and no cavities. When this bs started I told ALL friends and family NOT to take a vaccine created in 11 months. My God-daughter, sister, dozen friends, colleagues at work none of them speak to me. I was right. I’m hoping they don’t take any additional ones. I pray for them all the time.
I did not take the shot. My husband did. I have no comorbidity, my husband does. I did not want him to. I gave him all the information I had. I read and read and read. Would he do it again? No. He has an aneurism in his stomach. We came off a cruise in December of 2019. I became very, very sick that day. Long story short, it turned into pneumonia, and I lied to my doctor over the phone, got an antibiotic and a lot of other stuff, and I healed in February. There is no doubt he would have wanted me hospitalized. It felt like the hair on the back of my neck was trying to rise. Something wasn’t right. Lockdown? What was different? You could see the lies. You could follow the money. Border wide open. Who was essential who wasn’t. Masking like China? Our state health dept tried to push it so hard. Why? Our governor, republican, said he would defer to her decisions. Why? No funerals? No visitation to nursing homes? No being with your wife when she delivered your child? Our head of our state health dept lost her father and went to his funeral, but nobody else could? She got covid after being vaccinated. Why did we see so many “elites” doing what they mandated we couldn’t? There is no test for “covid.” Its all about viral load. Why was every single death considered covid? My mother who is in a nursing home, no comorbidity, got covid and sailed through it. They wanted to vaccinate her and her doctor said she didn’t need to be. Family and friends who took it have long lasting affects from it. Blood clots, heart problems, sicker more often. A family member had a miscarriage. One of my dear friends did say the vax should be mandated. I laughed. She is sorry she took it now. Fear worked for far too many. I have a special needs son. The affect on him was devastating. We had to make him get in the car and drive to Dairy Queen, reassuring him the whole time that we were not getting out of the car. He will forever be mentally scared, though he is getting better. I have a brother in law, who is very progressive, took all the shots, and NEEDS A HEART TRANSPLANT, and he cannot believe we didn’t get our son vaxxed. And he just told us that over this last Christmas. I was stunned. The federal government has done immeasurable damage to itself and is probably permanent.
Your post reminded me of a few MORE reasons I didn’t trust The Narrative …
a) I’m in CA. A lot of people were sick in early December. I had a pneumonia/bronchitis thing for weeks that felt different from anything I’d had before…
We’re near several military bases in San Diego. Later I read about the military games being a possible vector.
So I assumed I’d had it, and also it was yet another reason not to trust CDC’s reports.
b) And yes, the “essential/non-essential” binary, the idiotic restaurant and shopping policies, everything just being so clearly anti-science. And the heartbreak of so many people getting unhealthy mentally and physically (my gym closed & I haven’t found a new one)
c) If my parents had been alive, there’s no WAY they’d chose being alone in exchange for maybe living an extra few months or years…yet so many old people didn’t GET that choice. And the vax didn’t ever give anyone the freedom that was promised.
I was hesitant to begin with because I have HHT in my family and many family members have passed away at young age from stroke. I was laid off from a job I had for 18 years at a woke corporation that offshore the work I was doing to India. I struggled to find a new job due to not getting the vaccine even though we work from home. I was probably going to get it if I had to get a job but found a job that didn’t require it. I felt there was a atrong chance it would be fatal for post menopausal women with HHT. So it felt like a choice between my life or my livelihood. I prayed a lot. So relieved I did get a new job and glad I didn’t get the shot. My husband decided to get jabbed so he may have passed it off to me afterall. It was his decision and I respect it but he was in the hospital at the time and he was really pressured to get the shot by the nurses that were caring for him. I don’t think that was fair to him to pressure him as he was recovering from a bad fall at work and suffered traumatic brain injury. It has been 20 months and he is still struggling to walk. I wonder if the shot slowed his recovery.