I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

My wife was just finishing radiation treatments post Cancer surgery (no chemo needed) when Covid started up. We had to be very careful because with radiation one is very susceptible to viruses etc. She has a compromised immune system anyway. The timing was such that we both were able to switch to working remotely so it worked out we were isolated anyway. I certainly did not want to bring any cold or virus home to her.
One thing we heard about the mRNA shots when they started was they caused false positives for cancer detection for those within a your or two of having it. The last thing we wanted was having to go through another biopsy for a probable false indicator.
Now the bottom line. CTH. I have been reading CTH since at least 2015 and know Sundance presents facts and does research to be as accurate as possible. He also lists sources so a person can have enough information to verify what is being said. So we knew the dangers of mRNA. Our respective employers did fall under the requirement of having a shot and the J&J was available. So we did do that. The requirements did not persist very long so neither one of us has not and will not do anything mRNA.
I had a serious lung infection a number of years ago leaving my lungs weakened and have been getting flu shots since then. If they start using mRNA for flu shots I will stop getting those. I did come down with pneumonia last year and tested positive for Covid and spent 3 days in the hospital on antibiotics and remdisivere. Glad it was only 3 days and improved enough to go home.
Again, bottom line. Having a reliable source of information like CTH has kept me above the fold. I have not watched msm for a number of years and limit exposure to FCN and even Newsmax. And have never had a social media account. Yet I mysteriously stay informed. CTH, OAN, etc keeps one informed with far more truth than the others.
I read this article back in 2015 (https://althealthworks.com/eight-holistic-doctors-who-died-knew-this-hidden-cure-for-cancer-and-autismyelena/) and realized that the evil weirdos in charge were just trying to kill us and would stop at nothing. Haven’t taken an injection since. In a nutshell, I would say alternative news woke me up to many things as far back as the Benghazi tragedy. Can’t wait for them to be removed from this earth.
it was THUMBS DOWN.
Government threats, shaming, division, and only a fool can’t see the obvious. “Where’s your evidence” they shout, while warming themselves at the burn barrel.
First reason was I had already had Covid and recovered. I knew I had natural immunity already. Secondly I understood that the vaccine wasn’t a traditional vaccine but gene altering therapy. Third was the Orwellian suppression of information and coercive unconstitutional push to be vaxxed that set off alarm bells. I reflexively know the government doesn’t have my wellbeing as motive.
I knew that covid was a scam from the moment the first airport was shut down in 2020. Why? Because there was never, ever, ever a metric provided for what the acceptable level of deaths was for ending ‘preventative’ measures. The whole thing was a scam. I never wore a mask. I would never, ever take their ‘vaccine’ for something that was never a problem to begin with.
Starting last night and this morning, I have read almost all comments (interesting). Basically, here’s how I sum it up:
DISTRUST OF GOV’T AND BIG PHARMA – Common sense prevailed – so maybe there is hope for our great country!!
I’ve read most of the comments also and would add “all of the above” to my response!
My husband and I are 75 and somewhat retired from commercial fishing. Our entire business plan required research, preparation, and execution, every day, 24/7. Also required in the realm of hiring crew was a fine tuned BS detector. I am a firm believer in “informed consent” so when our govmint required me to quit volunteering for Meals on Wheels and other senior services or get the jab, I said no way. My BS detector was vibrating heavily.
Our small island community lost many super competent EMT’s for example because of a county wide mandate for the jab. Many of us here have done our research with the guiding lights of Mikovits, Tenpenny, Zelensky, Malone, Gold, McCullough, and many others to realize that our country was pushing a veritable kill shot. It seemed to be part of a world wide plot to kill off the vulnerable. Our research led to the Why’s and the How’s of this Cov-19 . Read “The Rape of the Mind” and other historic books on manipulating populations and realized how good my husband and I had it out on the ocean catching tuna/squid/salmon with only the weather and our wits (and our Lord) to rely on.
I have come to believe that mandates are evil, functional medicine is preferrable to Medicare, and that we must insist on informed consent. We have had the C-19 virus once and with ivermectin and the protocols, got through it in a few days. I am grateful to all on this site who still believe in self-reliance and critical thinking, and a sense of humor. Living the best life we can!
The MOMENT they started to quash alternatives to the jab I KNEW in my heart is was bad. I didn’t need anything more than common sense to tell me.
Paraphrasing a meme, “At this point in time, we now know that 1/3 of the population would kill 1/3 of the population while 1/3 of the population would watch.” This is a reasonable view of how I feel after being in this asymmetric world war for the last several years.
Recently reminded on another blog, Revelation teaches that cowards will be the very first ones God heaves into the burning lake of fire.
At this point, the question in my mind that popped up is: “Which group is each of us in?”
Your question as to why so many of your readers resisted the shots here are a few reasons:
1. Stopping safe and effective and cheap Covid treatments and the Deep State crushing any different opinions. mRNA “vaccine” gene therapy treatments have been around for decades and have always failed. There was absolutely no reason for the the Fauci Mafia to kill really safe and effective Covid drug treatments if ultimately the “vaccine” mRNA gene therapies actually worked. If the ‘vaccines” were safe and effective compared to the alternative treatments (HCL, Ivermectin, …), the vaccines could have got licensed and dominated the market. If they worked? The only reason to kill the drug treatments was because the Fauci Mafia knew the “vaccines” didn’t work, like all previous mRNA shots, and didn’t want a placebo group.
2. History. Fauci is a liar. I have followed Fauci for almost 40 years since he killed a gay friend of mine with AIDS. Fauci’s AZT trials were complete frauds. In one the placebo group died at a much higher rate than the AZT group during the study period. All died after Fauci wiped out the placebo group by putting them on AZT. It was later determined that during one AZT test the placebo group got one-sixth the amount of blood transfusions as AZT group. The blood transfusion kept the AZT group alive longer. Fauci’s Mafia shoved AZT into minority women giving birth and black and hispanic orphans. He is a monster. The minute Fauci starts talking EVERYONE should just assume he is lying
3.History. It is not possible to eliminate a human respiratory virus that has a non-human (think Bat) source. This is well known. It is also well known that the mRNA “vaccines” gene treatments were “non-neutralizing”, (i.e. they wouldn’t stop people from getting Covid, transmitting Covid, or dying of Covid). In the mRNA animal trials, the animals might have gotten some initial protection from an original disease strain, but the disease would evolve into a new strain that devastated the vaccinated animals (sound familiar?). The non-neutralizing mRNA vaccines will not kill off the virus and their widespread use will make sure the weakest immune system meets the strongest virus and increases viral spread. So from the beginning the plan should have been limit viral mutation potential as much as possible by using only therapeutics that don’t have genetic evolutionary pressure on the Covid Virus and stay as far away from gene therapies that can cause additional mutants. And study the mRNA shot as what they are :Gene Therapies not “Vaccines” Fauci did the opposite.
Know the man, know the fraud.
Atz,yes,so toxic it was shelved for 30 years . What does it do? Kills white blood cells . What to you need to fight a virus ? White blood cells . 🤔
We did not take the “vaccine” because: 1. Not long after the virus appeared, we started to see inconsistencies in the official narrative. E.g. All of a sudden, the definition of natural immunity was changed. 2. We had the virus in December 2020 and it was no worse than the sinus infections I’ve had in the past. 3. We were highly skeptical of the speed with which the “shot” was brought to market. 4. Even without treatment, other than OTC meds, 99.7% of those infected survive.
We had some bitter discussions with family members about our stance, but happily those relationships are currently cordial. (Except for the aunt I was not allowed to visit prior to her death.)
So many disparate reasons to be skeptical that coalesced when the UK Govt lockdowns started. I hate bullies of every stripe.
Sales rep here, contracting for a media company in the beltway. They acquired previous media group a year into pandemic so I was new to their team. Only sales rep on staff not vaccinated and am to this day shocked they didn’t pull my contract. You had to be vaccinated to attend gatherings. I simply kept declining each invitation and zoomed in if it was a meeting (vs happy hour/dinner) and no one said a word. I was more scared of getting jab than covid.
Quite simply, nothing has made sense to me since the runup to the 2020 election. I’d seen videos of Gates talking about need to depopulate, Dr. Robert Malone and many others being censored from twitter, officials parroting the rules and not living up to them and finally thousands of illegals allowed in and being shipped all around the country without being vaccinated.
Knowing the jabs are experimental and seeing Fauci and others testifying before the House admitting when pressed how low the vaccination rate was among their own agencies (NIH, CDC…) and the Pfizer exec not getting his…, well that sealed the deal (along with my Catholic guilt about origins). I am blessed to be nearing retirement and could have walked away easily if pressed. My two older sisters and brother haven’t gotten jabbed but my nieces and nephews ran as fast as they could to take it and the boosters. I’ve often wondered if I would have done so if this happened in my younger days when I was idealistic, before I understood the evil that exists all around us.
Any time a manufacturer, or pharma is given total immnunity from civil suits, the warning alarms should ring loudly. If all the personal injury law firms did not fight this, nor did they complain about their income potential being curtailed, they got,paid,off, or threatened by the gub’ment. The gub’ment protects itself, they don’t protect any person not in the Big Club.
Always, always follow the money, then you’ll understand why things are the way they are.
I did not take the jab because, as with all medications that are ever prescribed to my family, I research them extensively and especially for interactions with other medications currently being taken. That has always been my way from being a full time care-giver for 2 old ladies for 10 years. I did not like anything I read about the spike protiens, the Mrna, other mysterious ingredients….in other words there was nothing convincing enough for me and my family to take it.
I personally have never had the regular flu in my life, I have never had any vaccines of any sorts since I was in elementary school in the 60’s. I never got covid either, even after being exposed 7 times with covid infected people for days who later informed they tested positive just in case I got it. NEVER DID!!! I can’t recall when I had a cold last?? A true “pure blood”.
I don’t do group think and I most certainly don’t do “medical think”. I think for myself, do my research then make decisions as to my personal health and well being from the information I have assimilated. I have shared my opinions and research with family members and friends, all relationships remain in tact, however many still got jabbed and some are starting to have “coincidental adverse effects”. Is what it IS.
Lastly, I have never been a fan of the medical establishment. I have seen too much abuse on so many levels at the behest of Big Pharma to push drugs and especially on the elderly. Well, it’s a big topic Sundance and I could go on and on and on as I am sure many others can as well. Appreciate what others are saying, feels unifying in the world of “let’s not talk about the elephant in the room” if you know what I mean.
Didn’t get the vax because I’ve never trusted the medical community and I don’t fear death.
South African here. Full disclosure: I have always been sceptical of what any government, or “the authorities” say… so that was my starting point. The first known (or publicised) case here in SA was a doctor returning from a holiday abroad. Co-incidentally, he lived about 20 miles down the road from me.
I’ve not been a corporate media watcher for some time, but was intrigued by all the hoohah, and started watching a SA news channel. That was the first (literal) red flag… the giant virus molecules, like ugly aliens, threateningly rolling across the screen… in dark red and black. I have been involved with the creation of advertising and marketing visuals for nearly 40 years, so I understand a bit about things like non-verbal communication, and the constructing of imagery and symbolism needed to persuade and convince people. If I had been briefed to create a visual screen to scare people… that is exactly what I would have done.
I then started seeing some of our (so-called) leaders… thieving, corrupt Marxist idealogues with very sticky fingers, appearing on TV (wearing their WEF lapel pins), and repeating all the “Build Back Better”, “This is for the common good” tropes. The bells were well and truly ringing now. Then all the astonishing “rules” and masks and lockdown started, all the focus on treatment followed only a single route, with zero emphasis on prevention and things like healthy diet, exercise etc.
The fact that no safety testing info was made available, plus the news that the manufacturers had no liability was a cherry. I have no medical training, but it didn’t take too much of anything resembling an epiphany to realise that NOTHING they said was about Health… it was patently obvious that it was all about control.
Further reading of alternative news sites on the web revealed the silencing of any dissent. That was well and truly when the jig was up. My wife and I decided to believe our lying eyes, and made the commitment that we were not going to take part in their experiment. Our role would be as part of the control group.
*** As an interesting note on just one of the ludicrous decrees we had… when some shops were actually allowed to re-open… we could buy shoes, but we weren’t allowed to buy open-toed sandals. Yep… that’ll keep us all healthy. I’m sure it flattened the curve.
I read about Dr. Paul Marik and his therapeutic treatment of patients with deep sepsis, where he was able to reduce the fatality rate by 75%. When he started working on Cvid with a similar approahc, I adopted it (see Home – FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (covid19criticalcare.com)). Fauci has never touched a patient and failed miserably trying to find a vaccine for AIDS while therapeutic protocols kept people alive.
So, listen to a paper-pusher or to a real doctor? Not a hard choice.
I was an ICU nurse for about ten years. I witnessed much shady behavior both from pharmaceutical companies and the corporate hospital cabal. I was out of it before COVID hit thankfully. I started noticing around 2010 that our environment at work was becoming more fascist. Our mandatory education we did on the computer became more and more about social issues and also how we should view them. I wasn’t political so I made no connection to government interference. I also noticed new drugs would come out and were touted as miraculous but within a few years were exposed as having many dangerous effects. I thought that was strange since we always heard how much time and money went in to testing and research. I knew how many times mistakes were made by surgeons and yet the hospital would cover for them. When Covid came around I had already had suspicions from watching the cabal do the most debased things to get rid of Trump. I literally thought in January 2020, “ what is in store for us this year, we know nothing is beneath the demonic Democrats. I then saw the video from Italy and China and thought it might be real. By summer 2020 I was pretty sure it was being abused and used to take over America. I then watched people on FB demonized for questioning the whole thing. I heard about vaccines being rushed. I saw former hospital co workers throwing their oath to their patients out the window. Saying people should suffer who didn’t comply. I was horrified. It was surreal. I had figured Fauci was a psychopath by summer 2020. Robert F Kennedy’s book confirmed by suspicions. I then heard people were being told at the ER to go home and come back sicker. WHAT? That’s medical malfeasance. I heard they were putting people on the ventilator after they had been allowed to deteriorate. I heard about the government incentive to the hospitals to follow their horrific protocols. I knew when they were demonizing Ivermectin and hydroxychlorequin it was genocide. Drugs around for decades and taken by billions of people were not safe? It was all a racket. I knew I would not be getting anything coming from this communist cabal. I had started me and my 19 year old son on Zinc, Vit C, Vit D and melatonin around June of 2020. I was taking Hydroxychlorequin for my arthritis. I had never stopped doing my usual routine. We never got sick. I never even tested for it. I then saw they were gonna mandate the poison. I watched people panic and get vaccinated. Some didn’t tell me even though I never really said my personal feelings. I’ve watched them get very sick from COVID and now are regretting it as they come down with weird health issues they didn’t have. One has colon cancer. Another has heart failure and another auto immune disease. I’m glad I’ve always been a person who questions everything. I’m glad I’ve never felt the need to fit in. I’m glad I am a veracious reader. I’m glad I know what the Bible says about man’s”wisdom” and I’m glad I knew the greed and corruption of the healthcare system. I also knew many sociopaths and psychopaths in medicine and science. People are people and flawed in many ways. I also love history and have seen how mankind hasn’t changed in all of time. I watched the madness of people the last few years and couldn’t help but see the similarities to atrocities committed in the recent past.
I just wanted to thank Sundance and the Treeper crew for lots of insights gained since my lurking started with the Trayvon timeframe. These are my first comments but hopefully not my last, but I have learned that things go better for me when I use my 2 eyes and my 2 ears rather than my 1 mouth. For me, it just seemed otherworldly that ANYONE thought they had the right to impose themselves in any personal healthcare decisions of fellow humans. Thanks again Sundance and crew, and I hope to meet y’all someday and buy ya a cool one!
I’m young and healthy and in good shape. I dont take any unnecessary medicine. My position is not anti vaccine but pro medical freedom. The lack of testing and the vigor with which malthusians were pushing it led me to distrust it. The data showed me it wasnt worth it and it not stopping the spread further reinforced my decision. I lost friends over it people who refused to be in my presence but I’m sure I’m better for it.
No, I did not take the shot; neither did my husband or my son. None of us ever take the flu shot either. During the entire time, I tried to live as normally as possible by getting together with like-minded people and refusing to wear the mask unless needed to gain entry into a store and then once entered, I would wear it on my chin. Due to the govt. efforts to get President Trump along with all the daily propaganda in the local newspaper , the covid scenario raised a red flag. I suspected it was part of the “get rid of Trump” plan although I wasn’t sure. I knew the shot was experimental and this fact, coupled with the big pharm not wanting any liability, was enough to convince me that shot taking was a bad idea. Unfortunately, several of my friends and family members complied and ended up dead or with serious side effects.
First of all, there is no “the” COVID-19 shot, there are several of them. Secondly, a “vaccine” which is not derived from live virus is not a vaccine. Third, I never get the flu shot either; so unless this shot was more seriously warranted, I would not even consider it. Fourth, by the time the COVAX19 was available, it was already fully clear that they were lying about the death toll, and that the COVID-19 coronavirus was not sufficiency novel or deadly that it would tip the risk/benefit calculation in favor of injecting myself for no actual significant benefit. And lastly, given that Ivermectin, HCQ, Vitamin D, Zinc, Vitamin C and (other things) are very effective in mitigating the adverse impacts of a COV19 infection, it seems foolhardy to participate in the Big Pharma mRNA beta test by injecting my body with spike protein toxins. And of course, all the “died suddenly” news (and weird clots) showing up now in the many, many excess deaths, does serve at this point to confirm that abstaining was the best choice. I think of the Bible verse “Do not put the Lord your God to a foolish test” (Luke 4:12, TLB). And this frankly, is my biggest reason. As a committed Christian, my aim in my decisions is to use sound reasoning and make good decisions, based on verified facts, good information and truth. And to avoid being fooled by deceitful tongues which seek to induce me to leap into danger unwisely.
My husband and got covid in January 2021. I had very very mild symptoms. He had a more difficult case but not any worse than a bad case of the flu. (We are both in our 70’s). At that point, in our state, the vaccine was available only to medical personal and first responders. The vaccine became available to our age group shortly after we recovered. However, our doctor suggested we wait at least 3 months before getting the vaccine. By that time, I had researched and read enough and believed that the natural immunity we had would protect us and that there were perhaps some issues with the vaccine. The longer we waited, the more obvious it became that the vaccine would not provide much -if any- additional protection, had significant risks, and was not really a vaccine. We followed the guidelines by front line doctors on what to do take to keep healthy. We both got covid again in June of 22, but even more mild cases than before. We are now very glad that we got covid for the first time when we did. Otherwise we probably would have gotten the shot. We both get flu shots every year and would have followed the medical advice and gotten the covid shot.
At first, because the data from the Diamond Princess showed that Covid was killing primarily old, sick people. I was 64 and pretty healthy. Second, because a number of my friends and relations went ballistic with me over the notion that maybe Covid was not going to be any worse that a very bad flu. Third, when the vaccines did come out, and they said Pfizer used mRNA, I decided that sounded way too invasive. I thought, well, maybe the J&J vaccine, but then it caused some strokes. So no. And all through this process, the propaganda drumbeat was getting more intense, with name-calling : flunarian, contrarian, anti-science. Some of my relatives won’t see me any more; others are careful to only invite me to outdoor events. And to this day, when I talk to them on the phone, they have no inkling of the red press is reporting about adverse vaccine reactions. It is not even registering on their news stream.
My wife and I don’t watch TV; we don’t listen to commercial broadcast radio; we were both military and have had every vaxx under the sun, some of questionable progeny and effectiveness. We took Ivermectin very early on during the “plandemic”in the form of the vet grade 1% solution, before we were able to get human grade, and did not feel the need to rush into an untested vaxx regime pushed so hard by all sources, and pimped by two Presidents, Trump and Biden, especially as ALL of the DeathVaxx variants available here in the USA were either tested upon “humanized” mice using body parts from vivisected babies (Moderna, Pfizer), or actually had aborted fetal cells in them (Jansen/J&J). As Traditional Catholics that is a no go under any circumstances.
We researched virtually everything that we could get from online sources, most especially the FLCCC docs, Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, Naomi Wolf, Karl Denninger, and Ann Barnhardt. As the VAERS data came out it was increasingly evident what a debacle this was from the gitgo. Now that Naomi Wolf and the help she has received from medical professionals in sifting through the Pfizer documents released through court order have published the data, there is absolutely no question that those who chose not to Vaxx were correct.
Now we have to deal with the aftermath. Everyone in my family with the exception of my wife, myself, and my mother have had the DeathVaxx. Quite a few are having heart difficulties which were not present before. A couple have had the return of cancer and other anomalies. None believed us when we advised them not to take the Vaxx, and why. Now we live with the possibility that our entire family may be eliminated from knock on effects of this crime. There are no recriminations or “told ya so” moments, only the hope that some of our progeny may be able to take a child or two to term.
The people who have done this deserve punishment, and the people to whom this was done deserve justice, as this is without a doubt the largest crime against humanity ever perpetrated.
Sorry, but Trump gets no passes from us, especially as he still pimps the DeathVaxx and refuses to admit that he was/is wrong in doing so. He is rapidly losing support from many who did support him, as their family members who took the DeathVaxx are suffering from Vaxx injury in large numbers, and he needs to do a public mea culpa for pushing this. I know for a fact that some of his advisors have suggested that he do so, but so far he has refused. It is a huge stain upon his reputation and needs to be addressed ASAP.
That’s our story. I’m sure that others have similar ones.
Ann Barnhardt was a lifesaver on this issue; nonveni Mark, too.
All the links shared by fellow treepers were essential, too. This was a true “brain trust” on the issue. Thanks profusely to Sundance and moderators.
My intent was to always wait for data, and had no plans to consider the shot until the start of 2022 at the earliest. The first red flag was the fact the control group for each of the companies developing the shot were collapsed in October of 2020, when the EUAs were issued six months into what was supposed to be a three year study. The second red flag was the fact many doctors were having success with re-purposed medicines but were censored. Eventually, when the broad profile of those dying of the virus was developed (older people, those with comorbidities, obesity, etc.) I made the decision to risk getting COVID and dove deeper into alternate medicines and staked my life on my own research. In November of 2021, I contracted the delta variant and was prepared with ivermectin and ivermectin worked like a charm. With natural immunity, there is no need for the shot. My views were made stronger by listening to doctors who, pre-pandemic, had impeccable bona fides but, during the pandemic, were vilified and ostracized for speaking truth to power.
I didn’t take the jab. I started researching the vaccine before it was ever released to the public. I went deep into the early reporting of doctors and scientists all over the world. Early on, I always knew I would not take it. I just pray that people are beginning to see the horrible truth. I also pray that people who did take it can have the peace they need to go on with their lives and to have learned a hard lesson. Research, prayer and God’s discernment was the answer for me.
3 reasons I choose Not to take the shot…. #1 I already had myocarditis about 15 years ago… Didn’t want to risk reinfection #2 Once drug companies received protection from lawsuits – there was no way I would take the shot #3 My sister is a nurse – she researched the vaccine – she would rather take a bullet to her head than take the vaccine #4 From the beginning I just thought it was a bad cold # 5 I don’t trust our government [I went to the Jan 6th event…. & the ONLY thing that makes any sense based on what I witnessed that day – The breach of our Capital building was SIMPLY ALLOWED to happen!! I almost wish I never went that day [The most surreal day of my life]….I now realize how corrupt our government & media have become…They only report news that supports their preconceived FALSE NARRATIVE….TRUTH be Damned!!!!….I know that’s more than 3 reasons [there are many more]….#6 I already had Covid and survived [ I had access to all the stuff you were not supposed to take – Ivermectin and several others #7 I Read this website daily & a lot of my believes are influenced by Sun Dance….A BIG “THANK YOU” to this website!!!!! Lord knows we need much more TRUTH & TRUTH hurts sometimes…..The truth about this issue Hurts Big Time!
I almost went, glad I didn’t .
Went to the first lockdown protest here in PA.
Reluctant to ever attend another.
Many reasons intellectually but I just listened to my inner voice and said no. I thank the Holy Spirit.
Walter Bowart…Operation Mind Control
John Marks and Victor Marchetti… In Search of the Manchurian Candidate
Bruce Schlain and Martin Lee…Acid Dreams
Ed Haslam..Mary Ferrie and the Monkey Virus
George Carlin..Rules routine….1st rule is believe nothing your government says
We have a D-I-L who is a smart RN/NP. She had reservations, and gave them to my spouse. When my spouse expressed those, my initial reluctance went to Hard No. Happy to say that nearly all of my children and in-laws are pure bloods!
How do you know your blood is “pure”? The fact is that you don’t. You blood may carry some disease or genetic mutation that you aren’t even aware of.
I really despise people who style themselves as better than others. Why not point your hatred at those who created this mess in our world, rather than at your fellow citizens?
Good morning, Stella! Happy Caturday!
“Pure bloods” is a phrase brought over from the Harry Potter books, it just means they are not vaccinated (or not muggles)!
“Pure bloods” in the Harry Potter books was a way of saying “I’m better than a Muggle, because a Muggle’s blood is tainted”. No different in this case. Not nice, not innocent.
Re-read those last two sentences 5 times 🙁
I don’t despise people who made a different vax decision than I did. I honor both. I do despise people who – regardless of the topic – style themselves as superior to others.
IT IS NOT A TRADITIONAL VACCINE. The pharma companies are playing democrat word games. It is a FRAKENSTEIN gene therapy that was NOT FULLY TESTED. Stop calling it a vaccine! The side effects are worse than what you hear on TV for so many other drugs. We’ve all seen the list of side effects…why murder yourself?
I did not take the jab because the entire COVID operation was full of lies from the beginning. I also realized early on that it was not a conventional vaccine it was gene therapy. I will leave that part up to God. I spent 35 years in the army so I am full of vaccines, this one never had my trust. I am terrified for my wife and 2 sons who did get the jab to keep their jobs/student status.
I was wearing an N95 mask the day news broke of it spreading quickly since I already had them for work. As an “essential worker” I had to work everyday going into other people’s homes. I still chose not to get it because it was so new and untested. I had the original SARS a decade ago and thought I might die so I knew I didn’t want to get sick but the risk of an untested drug still did not outweigh risk of infection.
Pretty easy decision to say No – Lies, lies, and more lies. Masking, social distancing, lockdowns prevent spread of Covid – Lie. Hospitals full – Lie, they were empty. (Note dancing Tic Tok nurses and video of empty hospital hallways.) Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine will kill you – Lie. Then, withholding of therapeutics for Covid prevention and management – Hmmm. Known eugenicist, Bill Gates underwrites WHO and vaccine production – Hmmm. mRNA rewrites cell DNA instructions – Hmmm. Adverse reactions started to surface right away after jabs started. So, hard “NO” for me. (I am retired, so fortunately, no pressure from work, but would have fought fiercely against.)
I did not take the mRNA shot and didn’t allow my minor children because lack of information on trials and being new type of vaccination that seemed to me(a nurse)more dangerous than beneficial. I tried to talk my family and friends out of it after researching. In the end I failed to convince. Big thank you to Dr Syaad and Dr Ryan Cole and Drs McCollough and Malone and many others for continuing to push information to the public regardless of negative impact to them, their practice and personal lives. My sister who also opposed the jab when faced with loosing her job or getting the jab succumbed and was hospitalized within a week where she eventually died. Drs refused to try ivermectin or any other interventions the frontline Drs recommended when they were given the information. My father also who had always been healthy and active died suddenly after unexplained and rapid decline in health after getting these shots. I know beyond shadow of doubt these mRNA vaccines are the reasons for both these deaths that have devastated our family.
All of this death is heart-rending to read about. It must doubly hurt to have tried your best to talk them out of the vaxx.
I have an elderly friend who is about to take another booster because her doctor recommends it (what credentials do I have to compare?).
Spent the year before the vaccine ignoring the mandates. Took the position that fresh air and sunlight were the best protection. Do not take flu shots anyway. Outdoors in the Created Order exercising with walks, plants, mowing, etc.
Information indicated that almost all severe problems were pre-existing condition and extreme obesity (which I connect to breathing problems as body tends to stress, and viruses need sugar to exist).
By chance, had a large number of house/yard tasks being done, and told everyone who came to work on the property that they did not need to wear a mask. Told them that I thought person to person – face to face fellowship was far preferable. In every case I remember, they were appreciative and took the mask off.
Essentially believed that natural immunity was the way to go – did not see a reason to trust Pharma or the govt.
Could go on, but the final point is a distrust of the “mob panic” tendency in the general condition of man, which is massively magnified by the bureaucratic instinct for power.
As an aside, is that Interstate 90 in Western Montana in the picture? Looks so familiar.
I am an inherently skeptical person who likes to know the “why” and “how” behind anything, especially when dealing with government endorsed directives. Also, as an RN, the vaccine was pushed too much and produced too fast to be universally used, let alone mandated. IOW, there is no way such a hastily created remedy, for a less than lethal virus, be labeled “safe and effective, with virtually no debate to the contrary.
My position, though, has been a minority one, with most of my close friends and family eagerly following the government recommendations. Once vaccinated, these same people are not interested in hearing about the continuing data indicating how ineffective and injurious these vaccines really are. Many of these vaccinated people have come down with COVID, and even “unexpectedly” cancer. However, no one I know connects these incidents to taking the vaccine. My unvaccinated husband and I have not contacted anything, other than a cold, over this pandemic era, and have skirted many of the life-inhibiting protocols that just didn’t make sense to us.
3 reasons I did not take a shot: My Christian faith, my own research, Dr. Judy Mikovits. I have been reading about these people on alternative media for years, then did my own research. They absolutely tell you what they are going to do, but if you are not paying attention you miss it. NO WAY was I going to believe anything coming from Fauxi, Gates, etc. & get shot up with that garbage. Some of the companies attached to Gates can be traced back to Farben in Nazi Germany, even some of the names on the boards are the same. Enough to make you suspicious at least. I was suspicious of the pandemic, As soon as vaxx talk started I saw an interview with Dr. Mikovits, who worked on coronavirus research. She had been compromised by Fauci etc. She said there had only been animal trials with CV vaxes, and all the animals died. There WERE NO virus vaccines. Aside from that, I thought the yearly flu shots had started as some kind of “vaccine”. Well, I thought a vax was a one time thing, why the yearly rollout? $$$ I am lucky enough to know of allergies I have, NO flu shots or anything of the kind. — The way they forced people into shutting down, then basically threatening them with starvation by compromising their jobs if they did not get shot up, should have been a WARNING. I was born bull-headed anyway, I do not take much of what people say on faith, I live my life as I see fit and I know how to say NO. A local company bribed employees with raises and bonuses into taking shots, which I think is worse than threatening them with dismissal (which they did eventually-my husband had worked there for 50 years, was 4 months away from retiring & they were going to fire him. ) No one thought anything of it or questioned it. THAT is what bothers me more than the stuff these evil demons are doing. People go right along, trusting, never questioning. They don’t seem to understand how people can be so evil. Everybody who worked there should have stayed home until they bankrupted the place. There ARE people out here who see what’s happening & would have been willing to help any of these folks who would stand up for themselves. I am as wary of the Sheep now as Evil. —Some of my so-called Christian friends took it thinking they were helping save mankind, completely trusting yet again. All I could say to them was, there was only one Jesus Christ. Ruling by fear is bad enough, but this was hubris and just plain stupidity. And people are STILL wasting their lives by living in fear. My husband’s brother took a shot and ended up in the hospital the next day with a stroke, my husband STILL considered taking one, thank God he thought better of it. My 85/88 year old parents refused it, Mama said they were never shot up with anything, they survived all the other stuff they created “vaccines” for, they would take their chances.—I am a Christian, I believe we are called to live in the image and likeness of God. God was not a slave to anybody. He gave us free will. We should absolutely have control over our own bodies, & clerks in the ABC store should not have the right to tell me how to deal with my health (one of my run-ins). I did not cede my ability to control my own life to anybody. And I have a hard time with people calling themselves Christians & living in such Fear, and having such Tolerance for everything that comes at them. Tolerance is not a Christian virtue, we absolutely have the right to defend ourselves, as children of God. What is said constantly in the Bible?: FEAR NOT. — I never get scared much, I get MAD. People think I’m a bitch, some don’t speak to me anymore or they just think I am a little extreme & I am tolerated. Do what you want folks, but I am not going to drop dead from blood clots, strokes, myocarditis, run-away cancer, etc. When I go, it will be because of the way I run my life, with God’s help, not the federal government, NIH, WHO, or any of the psychopaths associated with them.
I live in DC and when vaccines were scarce, the Mayor talked about distributing the vaccine using metrics that meant every poor, black person would be vaccinated before a middle class white person could even hope to get an appointment, despite their risk. In the end, that was a blessing because it allowed me more time to read and make an informed decision about what was best for me. I decided not to get the vaccine for many reasons – natural distrust of the government, the numbers didn’t make sense, every positive outcome was immediately trashed, and immigration. I have absolutely no regret.
I have a natural distrust of government and this pandemic seemed a little too convenient. President Trump had many successes to run on. It didn’t seem possible that the democrats were going to be able to stop him. Why not close down the economy and create panic. I know that theory sounds a little over the top, but I still question whether the whole thing was created to derail his re-election chances. After the FISA court abuses, the Steele dossier, etc., why wouldn’t you question whether there was really something to panic about.
When the pandemic first started I remember listening to a press briefing where the reporters were badgering President Trump about the lack of ventilators. There were a limited number of machines but not everyone who got Covid was going to be in the hospital and not everyone in the hospital was going to require a ventilator. Plus, there were lots of people coming up with alternatives, like repurposing anesthesia equipment to function as a ventilator. Thus began my skepticism about the numbers being reported.
The constant testing didn’t make sense. Even if you were negative today, you could be positive tomorrow, and supposedly, spreading the disease in the interim. So, what good was that one test. The more testing that was done, the more positive results. That was convenient if you wanted to inflate the fear factor.
Something about the death numbers didn’t feel right to me. The hospitals were incentivized to declare every death a Covid death because they were paid more for those. More and more stories came out about gun shot victims who were counted in the Covid numbers because they had a positive test a week before. Finally after almost a year of CNN displaying the death counts, people started talking about dying with Covid, as opposed to dying because of Covid.
Probably the biggest reason for my skepticism was illegal immigration. While the government was dictating that everyone socially distance, get the vaccine, and wear a mask, they were allowing hundreds of thousand of immigrants to illegally cross our border. There were no Covid tests, no demands that they be vaccinated and no screening for disease or anything else. Then they were disbursed throughout the country. When illegal immigrants have more freedom and rights than citizens, something is rotten in Denmark.
Thanks Sundance for asking the question.
Great summation!
I never believed Covid was that serious of a sickness.
Therefore, I never felt any need to take an experimental injection to ‘prevent’ it.
At the start of the pandemic, my husband and I, in our 80’s with health problems, were justifiably scared, especially with the films out of China showing young people dropping dead on the streets, hospitals overflowing with bodies and people waiting for care. A neighbor shopped for us; I disinfected the groceries before bringing them in, etc. We stayed home as directed by “the experts.”
We had long since stopped viewing the MSM; using our TV to watch discs, getting our news online from trusted sources. So we were spared the relentless propaganda for the vaxx when they were first available.
When the “experts” decried the use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin while other doctors with equal credentials, online, stated that they were effective, we began to be suspicious — I had stumbled on a link to the Eastern Virginia Medical School protocol showing the use of ivermectin, Vit D, prednisone (to stop cytokine storm). I began to realize that the sharply different reactions to treatment was also a political divide.
In early 2021 both of us were diagnosed with cancer and were taking chemo and radiation. My primary doctor and especially his nurse (outspoken liberal) were all in for the new vax. I was able to refuse all vaccines due to being immunocompromised; no heavy pressure applied.
In time, we both decided, “The heck with living in fear; we are old and going to die soon anyway.” We are sensible, avoid crowds, but go to family celebrations, out to dinner with friends, etc. No more masking unless required by doctors’ offices.
My children got vaxxed, as did our nine grandchildren. Two had previously had COVID, were well in four days, but still were pressured by work and college to vaxx. The vaxxed all got COVID but one. Now our daughter gets fevers and symptoms about once a month, as does her husband where previously they had maybe two colds a year. One son, forced by work, got the vaxx and then had a heart attack a year later — from vaxx, who knows?
In August 2022, we both got COVID. My husband took ivermectin from a friend but after two days, he was pretty sick; went to the ER, ended up on Remdesivir and better the next day, still had two more infusions. I was given monoclonal antibodies, had a fierce chills and fever that evening and began to get well — had been told to stop ivermectin, but continued and got well within a week (all the while on anti-cancer meds for lung cancer), residual cough for a couple of weeks but Mucinex helped.
We have continued to avoid the vaxx and the regular flu vaccine because I read somewhere that “they” were considering adding the MRNA vaxx to the yearly flu vaccine. Taking no chances.
The sudden deaths of young healthy people are horrifying. Nothing like that ever happened in my younger years. Plus, I keep hearing of middle-aged people coming down with stage four cancers out of the blue, breast and pancreatic especially. The more time that goes on, the more adverse events are occurring until now even the CDC is moved to investigate.
Wait till the surviving young try to start families and find out that one or more of them is sterile due to the vaxx they never needed. The fallout and heartache will continue for a long, long time.
Formerly close family are no longer close, but that divide had been coming due to them being Lefties and we being conservative.
One more thought: I agree that the prying into other peoples’ vaxx status is as rude as asking other personal questions. Even worse demanding that they get one to protect me! I had been faithful to getting flu shots every year. I never once asked anyone but my husband, “Did you get your flu shot yet?” I figured that my only concern was making sure I was protected. Other people were able to decide for themselves if they needed one.
I was convinced I had covid at the beginning of 2020 before the vaccine. I also had direct prolonged exposure later in summer 2020 without getting sick. To me I felt there was no need to get the Vax. Later in the spring of 2021 coworkers who were vaxxed started to catch covid. That was the final reason to not get vaxxed. Finally the info started to come out about efficacy and side effects. So happy I never got it.
I didn’t take the vaccine because it was rushed and I didn’t trust it. If something was so great, people didn’t need to be compelled and manipulated into taking it by the threat of losing their livelihood.
I was aware of WEF inclinations for several years before the ‘pandemic’. Something in the WEF 2019 activities and a New York City meeting at the (I believe) Waldorf Astoria in October really activated my skeptical senses. I carefully followed the outbreaks on cruise ships and every bit of ‘coverage’ thereafter, and concluded that we were being fed BS by many institutions. When PDJT expressed support for hydroxychloroquine and the MSM/LSM went into full denial, I did some research and decided we, John Q. Public, were being being fed mostly lies every day. There were reports not filed, tests not done, lab animals dying to bring me to not just no, but HELL NO.
Sorry to report that nearly 3/4 of my family did get the vaccine. I’ve encouraged them to read Front Line Doctors I-Recover Protocol:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/tag/flccc-protocols/
which contains information for mitigating the adverse effects.
I chose not to take the experimental, novel, non-vaccine for a host of reasons.
At first, I was hesistant and cautious because of the rush to develop this wonder drug when it normally takes 7 to 10 years to test and determine the safety of a vaccine (advising friends and relatives that there was no data on the long-term safety, no animal experimentation, etc.) coupled with a deep distrust of big pharma, federal agencies, and a corrupted media pushing it.
Note: Deep distrust of big pharma and captured federal agencies – FDA, CDC, NIH, NIAID – is based on years of watching them approve drugs/vaccines that turned out to be deadly. Deep distrust of three-letter agencies based on a lifetime of watching those agencies engage in deceit, corruption, regime change, etc., at home and abroad.
My initial hesitancy quickly grew into a hard no when even a cursory search in alternative, non-corrupt media sources demonstrated that reputable, highly-credentialed medical/research experts around the world were sounding the alarm on taking an experimental drug containing a spike protein and the significant potential harms that could ensue. The swift and concerted effort to silence those reputable voices by big pharma, governments around the world, the corrupt WHO and the fake media only hardened my resolve.
I begged my children not to take the jab when it came out; pleading that they were young, their risk of death/harm was minimal; that natural immunity was superior; that there was no long-term safety data, including harm to fertility, etc. Only one of four heeded my warnings. Like all who rejected the jab, I was ostracized, threatened, demeaned, socially rejected (you are not welcome at events unless jabbed, then you are not welcome unless tested, etc.) by friends and family – most of my family. It was relentless and horrible – destroying friendships and relationships. Only a deep faith, the love of Jesus, and the support of some dear Christian friends got me through intact. That, and my background in medicine and medical research.
Sadly, as the evidence of potential “vaccine” harms mounted exponentially, my pleas to brainwashed friends and family members to read/discuss/inquire into reputable sources discussing the dangers of the experimental, emegency-use “vaccines” was rejected. They believed the “misinformation” lies and belittled my questioning of the “science,” and the suddenly all-knowing government and health agencies (CDC, FDA, Fauci, WHO, etc.), big tech and fake media.
The indoctrination worked: so many lives ruined by the lockdowns, mandates and ensuing death and destruction. I have relatives who suffered severe adverse effects from the vaccines and personally know of many very fit, previously healthy individuals who have suffered sudden cardiac problems, several dying. Surprise is always expressed, but the fact that they were vaccinated is never mentioned.
Covid is an aerosole, meaning you can contract it through your eyes yet there was never any edict requiring the wearing of goggles. Why ? Because they knew that people were never going to go around wearing them.
Requiring masks , a symbol of fear , was an easy push. They needed a graphic and masks fit the requirement. When dissent was shut down you had to know that this so called pandemic was a phony. Same thing re ivermectin. It was an easy choice, made for me by the people pushing the shot ( s ).
Some nurses wore face shields.
The lack of protection for the eyes is something my RN daughter in law brought up immediately.
She laughed a bit at those who would mask up in public but leave their eyes exposed.
And the masks that people wore were loose and not sealed around the mouth either.
And many of the employee’s wore their masks for hours on end which cause bacteria to build up in them which the person wearing the mask breathes in and out.
Every single thing that governments and business did to stop the virus from spreading was wrong and did not help.
The lockdowns of healthy people, the non vax being pushed endlessly, the masks just everything.
Also the character destruction of those who had an opposing opinion of these ideas was so over the top it took my breath away.
Just having a difference of opinion as to how things should be handled would bring so many things down on your head.
And that was really weird.