Day two of the House Speaker battle is scheduled to begin at noon, maybe. Amid the chaos “GOP leaders and aides were still deciding how to proceed on the floor on Wednesday. Top Republicans are giving little indication of any future speaker votes, how long the battle will last, or even whether they’ll hold conference meetings. It’s possible that the House could reconvene on Wednesday only to vote to punt further speaker votes until Thursday.”
Kevin McCarthy is demanding the House Republicans give him his “precious,” an affectionate term for the speaker gavel that is in sight, but just out of reach. Meanwhile, the conservative caucus is not flinching. “It may not happen on the day we want it, but it’s going to happen,” McCarthy said late Tuesday night.
As frustrated spectators CTH readers decry the visibility of the UniParty apparatus, yearning, thirsting for a bold contrast. Well, finally 20 House Conservatives are delivering that battle, the big ugly, and I am happy to see this unfolding with all the brilliant and chaotic mess it deserves. Fight on my friends, fight on. WATCH:
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Let Day Two of the Big Ugly commence forthwith.
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This is how the Founders intended our Republic to work. Only supporters of the ‘cartel’ are having vapors.
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The “present ‘ vote was a warning to the Anti-McCarty’s
WHO was the ” PRESENT ” vote ?
Republican Sparks
Spartz from Indiana. The blonde lady from Ukraine.
Is/was she one of the 20 caucus members?
Victoria Spartz IN- 5
a Naturalized Citizen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Spartz
booger, what do you mean by that?
McCarthy has began speaking to Democrats is what.
Because voting present reduces the number of votes needed for the win.
But, in turn, it takes away a vote. Mutual assured self-destruction.
it takes a majority of those PRESENT to win the SotH….explain how voting “present” removes her from being PRESENT
The rule is majority of those present and voting.
So stating present but not voting does lower the threshold to a win.
They need Dems to vote present for it to benefit McCarthy. A Rep voting present doesn’t benefit McCarthy.
The sooner the country implodes the better . We cannot continue the farce that we don’t have a communist cabal in control of all our institutions including our elections . The frog isn’t quite dead yet and maybe the shock of the country collapsing will force him to jump out of the pot and take action .
THIS all day long.
light it up
Bring it on. Ill take a Dem speaker over mcCarthy. Lets make this Big Ugly really ugly.
I agree with this, STRONGLY. I could say that it’s better to have an open enemy than a traitor who will stab you in the back, but the ugly reality is that the international crony cartel corporates who own McCarthy and creatures like him are an enemy worse than the communists. We wouldn’t have a communism problem if we didn’t have a cheap-labor-over-all-else open-borders globalism problem first. The money-first faction inside the Republican Party made a conscious decision to attack the civilizational rightwing faction during the 1950’s and 1960’s instead of uniting to defeat the communists. Thanks for nothing, William F. Buckley and fellow travelers.
So any bets on the dems getting the speaker position?
A little bit of hope then a rug pull at the end?
sound familiar?
Soon, if not already, word will go out from the Party to get in line or they’ll make a deal with the democrats for votes.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3797676-mccarthy-floats-path-to-speakership-with-lower-vote-threshold/
Tells you all you need to know about pretty boy Kevie.
He’s the heir to the throne… by divine right! Like ALL swamp monarchs.
Get in line or the Dems will make a deal with the Dems. Let it burn.
They’ve all been bipartisans anyway!
They already have plenty of deals with the Democrats – Uniparty, remember?
The Uniparty(D) holds all the cards on this one.
I personally know my House representative Byron Donalds. This man IS a true conservative. He is also devoted to change, but realistic in how disgustingly bad the swamp apparatus is. His willingness to change his vote and now be nominated/willing to serve is a courageous move. If whittle Kevie gets his precious, believe me, Donalds will be made to suffer.
Last year I was speaking with Byron about how, if ever, this cabal can be overcome. He said the Congress was an absolute mess, with nothing getting done other than what the Uniparty was supporting. Byron is unique. He is not a bullshi***r. He would be a great Speaker, and will be one of the leaders that, God willing, can help us restore our Republic…if that is still possible.
Just fired off a note to my GOP rep – it said:
BYRON DONALDS YES
McCarthy NO WAY
That is why McCarthy will not win. Everyone of the people who voted against him is toast. So they are not going to change.
I just emailed my congress critter, Darrell Issa to implore him to put the people first…for once…and vote for Byron Donalds.
I just did the same!!
MAY GOD PROTECT Rep Donalds
We just made calls to Gaetz in support and to Bost to change his vote. FWIW. Thank you for your comment – Donalds sounds like a great alternative.
Thank you for this great post – praying for an unexpected – and good – development!
The new Speakers first act the minute after taking the gavel should be the removal of Pelosi’s portrait from the halls of Congress. If McCarthy won’t commit to that, he’s no good.
We can only wish.
Fox News is playing the part of Gríma Wormtongue
It’s more like the Potato Rebellion Riots
McCarthy the loser loses another vote.
Luntz better do another quickie poll for his roomie.
Don’t WORRY FOLKS
CSPAN has Announced that THE HILL has Released that McCarthy IS DOING WHAT Macs DO –
SUCK UP to the OPPOSITION Instead of Negotiating within YOUR CAUCUS
( Remember – THE BRUCE and LONG SHANKS ? )
That’s fine. Expose this piece of shit for the whole country to see.
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House Speaker Vote
4th Round:
McCarthy (R) – 201
Jeffries (D) – 212
Byron Donalds (R) – 20
Present – 1 (Victoria Spartz)
So for Jeffries to win, a few more people have to vote present. Now it is time to watch for the RINO traitors join with the dems.
Yes Mr. Sundance! I am enjoying this as well!
It’s going to be pretty tense between Kevie and Franky tonight at bedtime
You left out MTG….
I am looking for insight as to how Congress works this morning. I have gotten at least 2 funding requests this morning from 2 of the 20 HFC members asking for “support” for them to be shown for the positions they are taking, and am wondering if this is a way that they use to gauge what We the People are thinking, beyond merely seeking funding? I would be happy to send $5. donations to indicate backing, as in a vote of confidence, but I generally ignore most of the funding appeals. Perspective?
CLAY HIGGINS ” Holding COURT ”
with
Gaetz Talking !
I’m confused. The daily mail is reporting Mr T is SUPPORTING McCarthy. Is the former prez a uniparty tool now?
He’s all in. It’s his attempt at a life boat for both his candidacy and his multiple trumped up charges.
Mr T gives you away ………. nice try ryan.
Lots to be confused about. Trump’s stance on McCarthy has been consistent. His strategy, is his. What is seen of it may well be intended to confuse.
I think I have finally figured it out. I think Trump’s intention is to draw out this process as much as possible with vote after which fails to put McCarthy into the Speaker’s chair, until he is forced to withdraw his name or see the Democrat become Speaker after the next vote. I think Trump wants McCarthy to be embarrassed,disgraced, and hated by as many as possible, and be forced to watch somebody else be elected Speaker, while he dishonors himself by his behaviour in the process, all while he had Trump’s official support so neither he nor his supporterse can blame Trump for the result.
The opposition to McCarthy is getting stronger, not weaker.
I want to see who MTG votes for on the final ballot. That will tell me a lot about her.
The biggest question of all?
Why are only 20 Congressmen listening to the People?
When did “We the People” cease to exist?
When R.R. left office.
when we consented to be governed by those who were not elected.
When we allowed Congress to become a life-long career.
and a “legacy opportunity” (ie., Dingells)
Remember the guys hanging around the outside of dance floor, along the walls of the gym, watching everyone else dance? Those are the Republicans.
When we allowed our rights to be messed with and ignored it all. The politicians will take everything that is given to them and not even say thank you. Anything they can get to give them power and money will be swept up and swallowed whole. Until the people in large numbers assert themselves, take an interest and pursue the politicians ruining this country, nothing changes.
Recently, on November 4th, 2020.
Notice how quickly the 20 coalesced around Donalds, once his name came to the fore and Jordan made it emphatically clear that he did not want the office? Proving that it wasn’t so much about electing Jordan as it was about NOT electing McCarthy.
Had McCarthy read the Constitution a long time ago — and followed it — instead of promising to only read it once the Speaker, perhaps he would not now find himself a historical laughingstock.
A hollow, illegitimate figurine you have become, devoid of a true mandate to lead.
For the good of the Party and the Country, withdraw, Kevin.
Isn’t that what you once told PDJT?
You got that! Kev is looking at Khama! Except he probably doesn’t even realize it. Yet!
Dysfunction Junction
Matt Gaetz responds after Trump urges support for McCarthy: ‘Sad!’
Excerpt:
“Sad!” Gaetz said in a Wednesday statement. “This changes neither my view of McCarthy, nor Trump, nor my vote.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/matt-gaetz-responds-trump-support-mccarthy-sad?intcmp=tw_fnc
Good response. And yes, it IS SAD that the champion of our movement has boldly capitulated. Trump leaves the courageous laying bare on the battlefield while he ducks into the comfy shelter of Uniparty headquarters.
Yes, it is that cowardly. I call it the way it is.
Agreed!
i SUPPORT TRUMP – BUT –
i BELIEVE THAT THIS CHOICE IS MINE Through THE HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVES
Start @ .30 min where McCarthy blames PDJT for J6. It is a mistake to support any of the cursed Mc’s – including Ronna.
Burn it down. Stand. Don’t move.
I agree with you Sundance!
Lost 4th vote. Suck on that, MTG!
Sellout.
McCarthy will make a deal with 17 Democrats. Wait for it!
yup – which, if we had a republic still, would result in 50 more GOP seeing his true colors and abandoning him.
Great. Then we can bury this ridiculous GOP fiction as an opposition party, once and for all.
On one hand, I certainly hope that would wake up the GOP and voters to how broken politics are. (and it would be worth it, even for a miserable 2 years).
But remember, McCarthy is smart. His deal wouldn’t be with hardcore lefties like AOC. It’d be with the reps who are perceived as more centrist. Synema, Manchin, etc. I can’t read Trump’s mind, but this could be what he’s thinking about; If McCarthy gets the 17 most conservative democrats on his side, he could use control of the house and his bully pulpit to attempt to destroy those 17 GOP holdouts. (and for a quick reality check, those perceived centrists are of course virtually all hardcore leftists, some just disguise it better than others. shout out: James O’Keefe III for proving this point for us!)
The media would be euphoric if they could stop giving Matt Gaetz any airtime and instead just show McCarthy taking pot shots at him and the other 16 GOP holdouts. And don’t think this is just doom and gloom: remember what happened to the tea party? <insert “it’s a big club” quotes here>
the Dimm/commies have PURGED their “conservative” blue dog members for the party
Ahh, sunlight!
I’m waiting for him to release one or two who might not run again to vote Jeffries to try and panic the holdouts. High stakes tactics.
Who thinks the anti-Trump establishment will end up pushing the McCarthy voters to vote for someone else so that this whole thing can be used to weaken Trump, since he backed McCarthy?
If he were to walk on water today, tomorrow the headlines would read “Trump Can’t Swim.”
Why even bother paying attention anymore?/R
Excellent!!
Chills…considering Glolum’s obsession with HIS “Precious” — the evil ring that Bilbo & friends needed to utterly destroy!
The only “Precious” I previously knew about was the dog in the pit with a senator’s kidnapped daughter.
Silence of the Lambs.
Which pretty much sums up most of the GOP.
“It puts on the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again!”
Makes me sick that not one rep from my state of Alabama is included in the “rebels”.
Or Missouri. I just blasted our newly elected Rep Eric Burlison.
Or Wi 3rd district. Kind retired and we elected a retired navy seal, Van Orden.
you just didnt vote hard enough, mate
Agree! I just emailed my new rep Dale Strong (who was not my primary choice at all), but I doubt it does one iota of good.
Still worth it.
Email them and call them!
Imagine if the Senate GOP wasn’t so corrupt and Mitch had to endure this same agony. Missed opportunity. Maybe this will awaken the battered voter syndrome people and show them that pushback can be good
We need more than push back , we need to win or the country is done .
President Trump’s mistake is in thinking that we can countenance yet another back stabbing traitor for the sake of buying time . WE ARE OUT OF TIME !!
OUR Founding Fathers ENVISIONED a CONFRONTATIONAL SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE where
GRIDLOCK and COMPROMISE Was THE KEY to LIMITED govt ( PERIOD )
That’s why my only indicators of how I vote are my wallet and common sense. I learned a couple decades ago not to listen to anyone elses opinion on how I vote
arguably we were out of time in 2020… and yet, speaking of the great pretending, here we all are, pretending like we have “representatives” because we had a “vote”….
Seems PDJT is taking an enormous risk with McCarthy – if McCarthy gets the Speakership and then turns around and does the cartels bidding thereby screwing the GOP base yet again, Trump is absolutely done politically IMHO.
Agreed. Seems like Trump is just accepting the swamp now. So freaking sad.
Could it be that Trump knows something about McCarthy that we don’t? Maybe McCarthy can implement some of Trump’s plans for the House. But McCarthy has not been an impressive conservative. Could Trump’s trust in McCarthy be misplaced? How many people did Trump trust in his first term that turned out to stab him in the back?
McCarthy spent money against Trump’s endorsees! Just a few weeks ago!
Republicans voting present helps Jeffries.
Be careful.
Hopefully she votes for Donalds in the next round.
Good. Let them expose themselves and then vote them out. Get rid of every filthy RINO. There’s only so many spots on the View and CNN.
If McCarthy is willing to
work withsellout to the Dems to get the Speakership, then it just proves why he was opposed in the first place.EXACTLY.
how many of the “opposition” will see that?
If McCarthy makes a deal with the democrats to get votes, it’ll truly set off a firestorm among the Republican/MAGA base.
There is a tweet put out by The Hill that McCarthy may be making a deal with democrats.
Breaking news!!!!!! The MAGA forces have crossed the moat and are within the walls.
Director wray has boarded his “vacation getaway” plane for points unknown.
If McCarthy is smart and truly concerned with saving the country, he would stand up and call for unified support for Jim Jordan as Speaker of the House.
He is concerned with power for himself. Saying he earned it and would never drop out is serious warning signs when someone wants the job so bad. He has to pay his puppet masters
Yeah, that is not a good look for Mr. McCarthy. That somehow he’s owed that job. He is NOT going to be good for the country as Speaker at all. Anytime someone blurts out that they think they are owed something like this it does not reflect very well on him or his ability to do the job properly. Sad sad sad situation but hopefully it turns out better than we might think it could at this point.
And 1 McCarthy vote did not vote in round four. That makes 21.
Hold the line, Rebels.
Has MAGA movement now moved on from the direction of President Trump. To back more of McCarthy is a major strategic blunder. I’m not interested in another Rino doing more swamp business.
The only moving on is being done by pee-low-ski as she moves out of her office.
The huge house margin was stolen in the PA, AZ, GA, etc. elections.
President Trump is working with the margin that has been booked.
If you don’t see it, that is not his fault.
Could be – most want the cartel busted, not just make them more friendly.
C-SPAN just announced that McCarthy is talking with Ds about a consensus candidate for speaker, per The Hill. Would it surprise anyone to learn that McCarthy would rather work with the Ds than the Freedom Caucus ???
par for the course
The GOP will rather lose any seat to a democrat rather than see it go to a true patriot.
This includes the Speaker’s seat. It includes the Presidency. It includes the entire Republic.
WTAF
That would be GOP extinction
Republicans won a majority, if they put Democrats in committee leadership…. no party can survive that dysfunction.
Sure wish someone on here read lips. 🙂
Hey go along-get along crowd, McCarthy is now huddling with dems to either help him win or gather around a suitable candidate for the establishment. Weren’t you all just saying we should be unified and that we should work together? Kevin didn’t get your memo. The mask comes off when there’s nothing to lose. He’s willing to screw you over, just like the election fraud and just like the midterms. Many CT comments from the last 24 hours look extremely dumb now….
Which ones?
I haven’t noticed any groundswell for McCarthy around here. 😆
Seriously? Just take a look back at all the people saying fall in line or the dems will win. They’re already winning and have been since 2018. Go to the “Swampy Things” thread
C-Span is saying that ‘The Hill’ is reporting that McCarthy is lobbying dims for enough votes to put him over the top. 🐍🤬
…and someone is lobbying to put Jeffries, Donald’s over the top on next ballot?
Might need to run vote again with ‘donalds’ ( after a speech )
As the votes go on,
someone’s going to change their vote.
Maybe a non-current- legislator ( statesman ) will be considered in future nominations / votes.
Good. Let him expose himself for all to see. And primary the shit out of every RINO voting for him.
As far as i am concerned we have 20 patriots in the house
The rest are garbage can waste….. take out the trash time
and that includes Jordan, MTG , Massey et al that have
thrown MAGA in our faces by standing by the likes of McCarthy
When the time came to fight they folded.
The most frustrating job of a MAGA voter is having to constantly play wack-a-mole with congress-critters. They are rarely what they present.
always gonna be mostly “fake trumps” like ron desantis
Doesn’t help them since Trump is in love with McCarthy.
Plus there is no way Uniparty allows maga to have any power.
This country is effed. Time to focus solely on your family and community. No one is going to save us.
There’s no love. Read what Pres Trump said about McCarthy.
Saw this comment over at Citizen Free Press:
C-Span reporting McCarthy to negotiate with dems now to lower the threshold for the voting count, whatever that means.
Wow…if true that stinks to high heaven. I just contacted my rep and said vote for Byron Donalds….do NOT vote for McCarthy ( she has been voting for McCarthy and it is so disappointing)>
Why a first time candidate?
What put that idea in your head?
Probably because the 200 voting for McCarthy are cowardly sellouts?
I think McCarthy’s plan to make that happen is for DementoRats to leave the voting and make the numbers work in his favor…
toddstarnes
@toddstarnes
Millions of Republican voters stand in solidarity with the 20 conservatives who are trying to stop McCarthy. We are tired of business as usual. And by “business as usual,” I would refer you to Kentucky where Mitch McConnell is having a lovefest with Joe Biden.
11:27 AM · Jan 4, 2023
Thank you Todd Starnes. I appreciate your insight.
Very happy to see Anna Paulina Luna is among the 20!
Unfortunately I heard that her vote doesn’t count yet – none of the “elects” have been sworn in – they will come in after this fight.
In fact I didn’t think of that when I posted the list of 20 today.
Can anyone confirm or deny that angle? As usual, I’m once again confused on a key point… (memory not as reliable as it once was)…
OR was she actually already in office? That would explain it…
(There was a report earlier that George Santos already lied and said he has been sworn in when he hasn’t been… 😆 )
That would make no sense at all.
Really getting tired of Newsmax. The got a whole line-up of RINOs hammering our 20 conservative Patriots. Debbie Lesko was a surprise.
why are you surprised when Newsmax is not MAGA friendly?
^^^^^ This
My hubby has been watching Fox…ugh …it’s 🤢
He turned it on earlier & immediately started bi!ching & I told him if that’s what he was going to do to turn it off. He complied. 😊
Stop watching RINO TV
Newsmax was founded by a major Clinton Crime Family donor.
The stooges at FOX news are pushing hard for boy Kevin. They helped steal elections to protect Kevin and the swamp. NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE the SCUM.
Kevin is Ryan’s buddy…
Call all the Rebels and tell them to hold firm!
All tanned and toned. Weight down to a healthy 25 bmi. Hair coiffed perfectly in a brand new suit. McCarthy still lost the 4th vote for Speaker.
Spartz is very supportive of Trump. She is also strongly opposed to cultural Marxism, ESG, CRT, etc. There is no way she would allow a dem for Speaker.
Not sure what message her present vote meant to sent. Perhaps it was meant for McCarthy.
That’s my thinking, too.
CSPAN / THE HILL said that SHE CONSIDERING RUNNING for the SENATE SEAT that BRAUN is LEAVING for a Run at GOVERNOR… and THAT Influenced Her Vote
SAD – IF TRUE
Vote #5