Arizona Judge Peter Thompson has ruled that Mrs. Kari Lake must pay witness costs associated with her civil election lawsuit against Maricopa County officials. However, the judge denied hundreds-of-thousands in defense lawyer fees for Marc Elias and did not issue financial sanctions against Lake.
PHOENIX — A judge has ordered Kari Lake, the Republican who lost the Arizona governor’s race, to pay $33,000 in fees for witnesses who helped defend election officials against Lake’s failed challenge of her defeat to Democrat Katie Hobbs, but rejected a request for hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees for the attorneys who defended the officials.
In an order Tuesday, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson declined to impose sanctions against Lake and her lawyers, saying Lake’s failure to prove her case doesn’t “equate to a finding that her claims were, or were not, groundless and presented in bad faith.”
Thompson, who was appointed by former Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, pointed to a statistical analysis by a pollster who had testified on behalf of Lake. The witness, who conducts public-opinion polls and is not an election worker, claimed technical problems at polling places on Election Day had disenfranchised enough voters that it would have changed the outcome of the race in Lake’s favor. (read more)
Mrs Lake appeared on the Steve Bannon Warroom podcast earlier today to talk about her intent to file an appeal to the decision. {Direct Rumble Link}
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The judges King Solomon act isn’t fooling anyone. The case had merit.
Kari Lake failed to meet a standard that is impossible to meet
I told you the trial was a side show, Lake never had a chance. The judges are either corrupt liberals, or cowards afraid of liberal wackos. Notice how the Supreme court leaker still had not been found even from a very limited number of possibilities. Remember what the liberals got away with when they didn’t like the courts opinion, picketing homes, making terrorist threats and nothing was done. Only a guy with a gun on his way to kill Kavanaugh was arrested.
I agree. I’m tempted to head down to protect the justices’ home(s). Was told I’d end up in with our 6Jan friends.
What exactly is a “witness fee”?
Not being snarky, I would really like to know. 🤷♀️
Witnesses are paid by plaintiffs and defense for their costs to get to the trial and lost wages.
it an interesting example of where the courts realize that THE PEOPLE should not be held responsible for funding plaintiffs or defendants.
wait…my bad. the courts are quite willing to use tax payers money for all manner of bullcorn suits brought by the likes of the DOJ/FBI.
again, showing the one way valve in our legal system.
burn it down..salt it…and nuke it twice from orbit.
it’s the only way to be sure
God Bless America
One of the ADVANTAGES of States Attorney Generals is the State pays their and staffs salaries, we could USE that, with MAGA AG’s,…just sayin,..
Like Abe Hamadeh in Arizona you mean? Except – Abe lost.
I don’t think he did.
$33 LARGE for their lost wages and time???
its a fraud and everybody knows
For a two-day trial?
Not sure where this spineless judge came up with this number.
Dominion fee calculator.
typically witnesses at court are paid “expert consultation fees”…….there are some individuals that make a decent living off testifying at court charging fees that commiserate with a lawyer’s hourly rates
The judges order spells out how much and who to, and what for.
An “expert witness” that got $500+/hr, that testified.
And a ‘expert’ that was Hobbs choice, to view the selection of random ballots, its all in the decision.
This is “usual” and no biggie. The denial of sanctions is affirming KL’s case HAD MERIT, it was NOT frivolous, the Judge said so.
‘Expert’ witnesses get paid an hourly rate (often higher than their usual rate) plus expenses for preparation and appearance in court.
Why Mrs. Lake should have to pay these for the defendants when the judge indicated the case was not without merit does not make sense. If KL does end up paying any of this, hope she uses only hard US currency (preferably used $1.00 bills and unrolled coins).
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If these ‘expert’ witnesses had an ounce of integrity, they would refuse payment from Ms. Lake.
Isn’t helping Hobbs’ side prevail payment enough for these ideologues?
This is NOT unusual, in a civil case.
KL brought the case, she INITIATED it, therefore she ‘forced’ the defendant (Hobbs) to spend $ for witness and ballot selection monitor, that she would not of otherwise spent.
Don’t get hung up on what the Judge ordered KL to pay, focus on what he denied; He is saying KL’s case HAD MERIT; Hobbs side wanted the narrative that KL’s case HAD NO MERIT, that it was frivolous.
The Judge destroyed that narrative with this ruling.
Did expert witness work for over 20 years. There are two types of expert witnesses, those with credibility who choose their cases based on the merit of the case, and paid expert witness whores who will say whatever they’re being paid to say. Ironically, depending on the area of expertise, those with credibility usually turn down more cases than they take.
And then there’s Shiping Bao…. “Nooo! Those are my notes! MY notes!” 😀
Ahhh yes… I remember HIM. LOL
Wheelbarrows of pennies comes to mind.
😉
You mean coins in a sock?
In pennies
$1 bills collected from “Gentlemen’s Club exotic dancers.”
This payment order is so harebrained in light of the fact that the AZ Attorney General’s office already made a finding that the election office did, apparently, break AZ election laws. Hence, those testifying election officials, to the extent they were not at their jobs at specific times, represent (regrettably) an additional financial liability that AZ residents will have to bear given the shoddy way election officials comported themselves during the election.
I hope these assessments will also be appealed.
Judge Thompson, with all due respect, you’re simply a disgusting human being!
She shouldn’t, since the Judge admitted that she proved malfeasance, if not intent…
Not a surprise. It depends on the state law, but the costs of court (including witness costs) are a pretty standard award for the loser of a case. Loser-pays laws are usually good in that they deter frivolous suits. She almost certainly won’t actually pay it until the appeals are settled and the judgment is final, although she may have to post a bond for the fees while the appeal is pending.
Just made my contributions to KL a regular monthly event.
Consider also Mike Lindell’s Legal Offense fund. He’s been supporting her (when the RNC refused to) and other good causes.
That’s at https://lindelllegalfund.org/
Thanks for the link
Thanks for the link.
Kari’s SaveArizonaFund is using WinRed and I don’t trust that outfit (GOPe in my mind).
Yes! And Mike.
Stopped giving money to the Republicans years ago.
They do not fight for me!
Speaking of the RNC, a compare and contrast between KL’s case, and ABE HAMEDEH is insightful.
Unlike KL’s case, which the RNC wanted nothing to do with, the RNC ‘joined’ Hamedeh, as a claiment.
And, you can see why; In the Hamedeh case, the claiments pleading not only makes no allegations if intentional misconduct, or even incompetence, it goes out of its way to make it clear they aren’t alleging either.
THATS the RNC way, I assume they would defend this by saying it is counter to a Political parties interests to foster doubt in elections, as they ARE (supposed to be) in the business of trying to get people to vote for their endorsed candidates.
RNC no doubt ‘footed the bill’ for the lawyers, and it showed.
I was about to say- let’s all contribute to HER.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but the law says that signatures must match on mail in ballots.
It appears that there was a clear violation of this law and the judge refused to hear the evidence?
Did someone mention here in another thread that this blatant cheating/violation of the law may get reviewed in some other venue?
Does it appear that the judge refused to hear the most easily provable violations of the election laws?
If so, is there any legal recourse?
(I heard Lake say that she was appealing the ruling on the two counts that were able to be heard).
Lake said she was appealing but don’t know if she can get anyone to look at the signature issue.
She may have to go to the US Supreme Court but a majority of those are frauds so who knows
The judge falsely claimed that Lake was challenging the process of signature verification, as outlined in the manual, and not the actual signature verification as practiced.
Based on that false claim, he ruled that since the verification process was already known, she needed to challenge it before iw was used in the election (never mind that at that point, the case would have been thrown out for lack of standing).
Yes very tangled legal logic.
The net result is a clear violation of the most fundamental principles of a Republic.
Namely that individuals are sovereign and we pass that power through a legitimate election process to Representatives.
Yes, “heads we win, tails you lose”.
I THINK on appeal, she can challenge the Judges decision NOT to hear the sig verification argument.
In her pleading, KL team made it clear they were challenging HOW the sig verification was done (actually NOT done) not the processes set up in the manual, which make NO PROVISION, nor does Statutes enacted, for using AI for sig ver. NONE.
IF the manual DID recognise AI for sig ver as a viable option, within State election law, they would have standards listed, like points of comparison percentages allowed, testing and certification of the system, etc.
There is NOTHING in Az Law, or election procedures that recognises AI for sig ver.
I did a “field test” of various biometric (eye and fingerprint) sensor on many popular smart phones (android and iphone).
here is what I found (bear with me because I am making a larger point about AI here, specifically with algorithmic code)
the owner would establish a biometric scan (finger or eye). doing so several times, as is the usual routine to capture different prints and angles to establish a unique biometric scan.
these biometric scans and actually pretty darned hard to hack, but what I found is that APPS that utilize the same biometric code are rather easy to fool.
so you have a phone manufacturer that does a pretty good job of making security happen…unlocking the device is pretty hard to do with a fake biometric scan.
but with an app, it is obvious there is some “tuning” that takes place. Meaning the same biometric scan from the smart device is used but there is some type of down graded algorithm that takes places to unlock the app.
I tried this with my own bank app. And also some other financial apps.
I was shocked to learn that I could unlock those financial apps with any finger and even with someone else’s eye! It was not difficult.
what I am getting at is that not all biometric scanning codes are equal. I am not certain why an app would downgrade the biometric, but my first impression/assumption is that the apps are using something like a sampling algorithm and doing so to make access easier but also at the expense of best security practices. (a tradeoff as we understand). Using some but not all of the biometric data would not give me the best security, but it would give me ease of access without too many “errors/rejects”. This leaves me wondering if this is the result of phone manufacturers denying apps from access to the total biometric data, OR that apps are engineered to only use some parts of it.
the point is this: biometric in practice is not very secure.
the other point is that when you use biometric as a security feature you are unwittingly sharing personal physical unique data about yourself. One can change a password that has no relation to who you are. One cannot change a fingerprint or an eye scan. In the future, possibly now, this data will be (has been) collected to associate it with a variety of other meta data about YOU.
I demonstrated this experiment and the reaction I got from the 4 people who observed it was interesting too. A lesson in human behavior: it was quite interesting to see how very few took the experiment seriously. The take away seems to be that people might not even care that biometric data is a terrible form of security/auth.
“hey, it works” if someone is going to steal my phone, well, my bank will make sure fraud doesn’t happen.
that’s stupid on so many levels. But I digress.
the point is that there is likely many kinds of downgrades to biometric auth that happens with digitization of signatures for mail in ballots. One must assume there is not such thing as a perfect matching algorithm for biometric signature verification. I mean, I could present 500 sets of signatures that I have used over the last 30 years. All my own signatures. Some days more consistent that others. Some days very sloppy ( in a rush, bad angles, fatigue, etc). But mail in ballots as I understand it, only use signature verification based on a very limited set of signatures “on file”. Do those “on file” signatures provide authentication basis to determine a match. This is problem goes beyond the problem of matching algorithms.
Let’s say I “tune” the algorithm to 95 percent…what would the rejection rate become? I suspect it would be high. One the other hand, lets say I detune the algorithm to 70 percent? The rejection rate would likely go down to almost zero. And there is where you find the problem. When you detune an algorithm, matching signatures for authenticity is a liars game.
imagine if you typed your password and made one single mistake. Like not capitalizing a specific character in the set. That password would not work. There is no “detuning” of passwords!
this is NOT TRUE for biometric data “passwords”.
just something to think about and consider.
biometric is not a very reliable or authentic security provision. It is also a privacy concern that most people don’t even consider. Who is selling that data and to whom and for what reasons?
God Bless America
And there is the problem, Arizona doesn’t have a law that specifies how signatures are validated.
THE LEGISLATURE left that part up to the SoS to create the “guidelines” for matching voter signatures.
…and she did so, gleefully!!! Go read them, they are published online as public documents.
THE LEGISLATURE is apparently ok with the job the SoS has been doing with this for the past several years. They have apparently seen no reason in Arizona to make changes to that or any other meaningful election legislation.
One might say that is odd for a state with Arizona’s history on elections.
So the judge, knowing that the US constitution, per A1 Sec4 says that election laws belong to THE LEGISLATURE NOT THE COURTS very correctly tossed the challenge out.
He did so because there is no law that says that a signature “must match” in any “certain certifiable way”. Aka it’s not in his means to rewrite election law or the guidelines.
… You’d think that signature validation thingy would be important to the legislature, no?
Your complaint, like most of the election complaints, lay with a Republican controlled Arizona legislative body. Ironically (or maybe not) that is also the case in most every Republican controlled state that people whine about…
There is a pattern there, do notice it… Just like there is a very distinct and disturbing pattern to the misdirection of blame on election law. I’m not blaming you because I think that misdirection is INTENTIONAL.
Also, I am not saying what is happening is right… But I am saying (as a conservative who is knows what his constitution says) these judges are wrongfully being blamed by citizens who have zero understanding of our nations law.
Which, to be honest is F-ing sad.
But is damn sure convenient for those elected officials in office!!
Maybe… (and I do think this is a long shot) people who call themselves “Conservatives” will wise the F-up and stop being led around by the nose. That however conflicts largely with the fact in doing so on this subject means they have to personally reconcile with their misconception that the Republican party isn’t their lord and savior. But is infact the the very entity screwing them.
It also means we’re beyond fixing this by elections. It simply can’t be done, that’s incredibly scary for most people.
Don’t mistake my tone as adversarial, it isn’t.. it’s just that this Dunning Kruger effect on the constitutionality of elections with Republicans acting like progressives is getting old.
Thank you for the information. It is the legislature that the citizens should be blaming.
Kind of similar to what we have seen in Georgia.
But signature matching has been an issue in AZ since 2018. And neither the State GOP nor the RNC did a thing about it.
And? The constitution doesn’t guarantee you anyone will do anything about it. That’s your job.
Stop electing party members?
Punch them in the face?
Lots of valid responses.
Yes, a State legislature, which had a 1 seat R majority, …but the Speaker was a RINO of the worst sort (Rusty Bower) and he had ONE accomplice.
And so he constantly blocked legislation, and when he couldn’t prevent a bill coming to a vote, he made sure his ‘buddy’ was a no-show, for the vote.
Wendy Rogers wrote 90 bills last session; not one got a vote.
Mark Fitchem had 11 seperate bills on various aspects of elections, procedurally kept from being put to a vote.
Bowers got censured by the State R party, and was primaried out, only getting 20 percent of the vote.
Will be interesting to see what kind of R leadership we get next session, in the Az. legislature, and if they can use the “power of the purse” to keep Hobbs from Californicating Az.
KL FORCED them to blatantly cheat, just as PDJT did, in 2020.
They simply could not have KL as Governor, any more than they could survive a second term of PDJT.
There are no RINOs beyond the cheerleaders that wish the party wasn’t Republican and refuse to accept that it is.
The word is a synonym, and a poor one at that.
you have nailed down the issue quite well. you win the internets. You may take the day off, but please come back we will need you! 🙂
I agree the court result “followed” the law in its present form. But I would not consider this judge completed a proper inspection of the issues, EVEN IF the laws in arizona are broken. Yes, I understand that judges do not make law. However, have we not observed that judges will often rule on matters that the law has not prescribed with precision when faced with obvious unexpected consequences? The fact that this judge ruled against the Kari Lake without making any comments to the merits of the specific allegation regarding signature matching and chain of custody was very telling. And I think this is what has most people reading the ruling pissed off.
As Justice Clarence Thomas would put it: “inexplicable”
I am praying that Kari Lake and her legal team will appeal, but also that they form a legal argument that puts these very issues into the argument. I see three distinctly separate but associated legal issues:
a. has the signatures been verified not merely to the “satisfaction” of the code and protocols used, but rather that a random group of signatures are tested to determine what kinds of positive and negative outcomes are in fact generated.
b. A court judge must not be allowed to rule narrowly to avoid encroaching on legislative matters. While a judge cannot make new law, a fundamental principle to any court is to examine whether such laws are correct and fair. Ruling from courts do often result in law review. This case should be no different. The process here is suspect. The judge punted his sworn oath to perform that role.
c. Chain of custody is a serious matter. It is so serious that in all cases of a loss of chain of custody should result in a rejection of that vote. How that is resolved to ensure the voter is not excluded is a separate but important element. One could easily imagine how a manipulative corrupt election official or voter counter or a scanning machine could be made to “lose” chain of custody with the intent to reject votes. how to make the process that involves circling back to that voter and completing the process again to conform to chain of custody is essential. It would seem there is a breakdown in this part of the process. A loss of chain of custody is not the responsibility of the voter. I am not sure this is the argument set forth by team kari specifically, but it is necessary to make the election process fair and equal. If the argument is that chain of custody has been broken for any reason, and that those votes must be rejected permanently with no solution to make that voter whole again, I would disagree with that argument. I am not claiming this is true with team Kari, but just pointing out again how limited this court ruling concluded. One is left with more question left open that answered in the affirmative.
God Bless America
THIS judge dismissed all the action points that were easily proveable before it got to the trial stage
Its a civil case.
Marc Elias? They didn’t go after him in court.
Naah, he’s on the inside track for “do not bother him with the dirt he knows about people”. It would be an interesting argument between him and Gordon Ramsay for volume of speech. chuckling
he was the face behind the curtain….he wants compensated for his efforts at America’s downfall
Just enough of a fine to make the Trial appear legit….Kinda like Biden or Hobbs coming out of the Basement to debate to give the appearance of Legitimacy…..It’s all Theater Folks….
He’s saving Hobbs from her own viciousness?
I would like to think that an appeals court would reverse this or reduce the amount, but don’t see that as a positive decision for her.
This unethical Judge needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred.
Any thing to kick a republican in the teeth is what it is all about.
Don’t forget that Maricopa’s senior election officials are republicans. They are colluding with democrats to destroy MAGA candidates.
They are all RINOs by definition.
They are part of the McCain team. There is no way he was elected over and over again without a well run cheating machine.
Which makes me tend to suspect Mitch McConnell is involved.
No Doubt!
There is a REASON incumbents have such an advantage; each has a State machine that insures they keep getting reelected.
They want to punish Kari for daring to question the election and send a message to anyone else who wants to try to go up against Big Brother. I hope she can get this to SCOTUS, but not holding my breath.
They picked the wrong person.
Since elections are the purview of the states I suspect the SC will refuse hearing it should it be presented there.
The Supreme Court is the plan and objective. You can bet Trump and Lake are in cahoots. The ramifications effects the entire nation.
The shakedown is complete!
Bye bye Republic!
We live in a single party dictatorship.
I wonder how many tires there are on Maricopa County and state vehicles.
Wonder how many water pipes and toilets in the Arizona government office buildings? 😆😆😆😆😆😆
Why did the Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson not explain why the two Maricopa County OBSERVERS sent to Runbeck were able to validate, the chain of custody for 295,000 ballots? This must have been a superhuman effort by the OBSERVERS.
Why were the two Maricopa County, Arizona people sent to Runbeck as OBSERVERS not brought in to testify by the Judge?
Was the court made aware, that Runbeck is a highly secured facility controlled by contractors for the U.S. Government?
Why did the Judge allow the 50 reported ballots to be injected into those being processed by Runbeck, thereby breaking their chain of custody?
I find the Judge’s conclusions like credibility.
Because the judge is a chicken shit.
“I find the Judge’s conclusions like credibility.”
Did you mean “lack credibility”?
Yes, thanks
it also “licks” credibility. As in tastes it but does not eat and digest it.
(the obvious strain of this judge to ignore the full scope of complaints, is very telling..and to be honest, I have not followed the case in great details. Was the case destined to be booted for lack of evidence or a lack of fair judging? As with most things, a quick tour of the background and rulings of this judge will offer some basis to draw whether this ruling is in keeping with consistency…I would make a wild guess we will find that this judge has a dodgy reputation. Just a guess, but I trust my gut this is likely true.)
God Bless America
God Bless America.
I don’t know about anyone else but I never want to hear the word ‘maricopacounty’ ever again.
Well I want to hear about this county again until their corrupt elections are dealt with, or this state will be forever blue and Republicans will never win it again. You can’t turn your back on corruption!
This is beyond disgusting. Hope Kari and the AZ citizens tell the judge to go pound sand in addition to starting a petition for his removal. Since Hobbs will not be a legally elected governor , no one should abide by her rulings
At some point decisions will have to be considered in order to reverse this corruption. Voters will vote, cheaters will cheat. And judges will ignore or find in favor of the cheaters. So let’s give the voting another go and then after the same results bring in the crooked judges. That working for you?
Why was the law not applied as written? Can you ignore the parts you don’t want to do?
HEATHER HONEY: “I understand your question, and I would say that Somebody, a person, it’s my understanding the recorder is responsible for maintaining the Chain of custody, somebody made the decision NOT to do it and I would say that they made that decision knowing what the law was in Arizona.”
Heather Honey, Chain of custody expert on BOTH Runbeck and Maricopa County: “They weren’t following the legal requirements for chain of custody”. This would have included the two Maricopa County OBSERVERS.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/werent-following-legal-requirements-chain-custody-expert-kari-lake-trial-heather-honey-destroys-maricopas-defense/
….to which Richer owned up and ADMITTED to at least two violations of AZ election law and yet was not held to account
It would be up to the Attorney General of Az, nunchucks Bromovitch, to pursue charges against County Officials for violating chain of custody laws.
Have we seen any proof the observers were there and that they did not work for the government contractors?
Jan Bryant: No, all the high speed scanning happens at Runbeck. So, those ballots go to Runbeck. As far as I know there were no observers there. I don’t know. I never got called to work at Runbeck. That’s all I can tell you.
https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/06/13/why-did-ballots-scanned-offsite-continue-to-be-delivered-to-maricopa-elections-center-after-voting-ended/
Ok I will just say having been in defense civil litigation for over 30 years the witness fee costs are borne by the losing party. This is nothing new. As much as I dislike Hobbs it’s not unreasonable to request expert fees from the losing party. The sanctions were appropriately denied and that’s good.
as with LTGEN FLYNN, I am ready and will contribute to any legal campaign that restores kari lake whole. BUT, I will be doing full due diligence. not to a pac..not to a fund raiser. to a specific verified legal defense fund.
that is all.
God Bless America
However, the judge denied hundreds-of-thousands in defense lawyer fees for Marc Elias and did not issue financial sanctions against Lake.
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IMO and that of many others, if a man ever existed who was evil incarnate in a suit, it’s Marc Elias.
IMO, he’s a modern day equivalent of Reinhard Heydrich, architect of the murder of hundreds of thousands during his reign over Czechoslovakia; except Elias has obscenely countermanded the rule of law, using a corrupt justice system as his personal Einzatsgruppen to eradicate conservatives.
IMO, as rabid animals are put down with no thought of compassion except to save others from their fatal disease, so should the political and judicial Einsatzgruppen executioners of today also be put down.
How does Hobbs get to charge lake when she refused to testify?
I read on Patriots.win that 33 (of the $33,000) can be some sort of Masonic signal by the judge. Not sure if that’s true or what to make of that but I thought I’d throw it out there.
So given now that the chain of custody doesn’t matter why can’t MAGA just print and stuff ballot boxes in corrupt cities.
Paper burns BTW.
Lake should tell this scumbag judge to go screw himself, then immediately appeal to further tie up anything this hand-picked agenda driven lawless cheat tries to “impose”.
The judicial system is rigged and wrecked…except for the criminals.
Well in good news, the Supreme Court upheld title 42–remain in Mexico.
Those buses from Texas are getting a little to close to the DC suburbs where they live!
There is ample evidence to prove that the Arizona election was so flagrantly flawed, corrupted, inept and mismanaged that a new election was warranted. The failure to maintain the chain of custody for the “ballots” was enough justification alone if the USA or Arizona had a just and fair election system.
But the system is too corrupt or outdated to correct these egregious election failures. Besides the preferred candidates of those with the power were declared winners.
Rather than look for examples of corruption in the USA, it might be wiser to look first for examples where corruption isn’t systemic or deeply rooted. Those examples are definitely far fewer than the corrupt examples. Corruption will continue to spread as long as the only opposition party is controlled by those disgusting RINO’s that encourage it and scuttle every attempt to fight it.
Not long ago, the GOP had 2 positive possibilities for POTUS. P Trump has been defamed, slandered and attacked for years in the hope that his supporters will turn against him while the other positive in Florida has been increasingly funded and courted by billionaire’s etc hoping to buy and control him. His non-response to the MAL raid and his silence regarding his funding sources raise serious concerns.
I don’t know with certainty how DeSantis would govern an entire country but he must be aware that billionaire donors do buy corrupt politicians. They’ve been very successful as the declining USA proves.
Sundance, there are reports that the Judge in this case was constantly looking at the defendants and that his decisions may have been scripted by Marc Elias. What is your take on this Judge?
And yet another unelected fraud is installed.
Do you mean Katie Hobbs or her twin sister, with Katie’s penchant for skipping work Arizonans will never know who is sitting behind the governor’s desk.
Basically like what the Soviets used to do: murder a child and then send the parents a bill for the bullet… Nice touch 0’Bama!
…technical problems at polling places on Election Day had disenfranchised enough voters that it would have changed the outcome of the race in Lake’s favor…so why did the judge rule against her?
Just us system
Arizona is now moving from a RINO tax farm to a demofascist schiffhole.
Shame on Arizonans for not protesting this treachery full force.
Obviously Ms Lake’s lawyer wasn’t as “experienced” as Elias
This judge was appointed by former conservative Governor Brewer. Both parties want Lake to lose and for Hobbs to be installed. So any judge assigned to hear this case, or the appeal, will be ruling to please their party. That is what is happening.
As near perfect a repeat of 2020 as you could get, as both wings of the Uniparty didn’t want, couldn’t survive a second term of PDJT, they could not have survived a term of KL as Governor.
Would somebody please explain to me why Kari Lake knowingly walked into having this election stolen from her. She knew what happened in 2020, she knew AZ/Maricopa County had some of the worst fraud and behind the scenes political treachery in the nation, she knew Katie Hobbs was going to control the election steal. Knowing all of this then why did she enter into the rigged game knowing the outcome that would put her exactly where she is today? Same thing as Trump wanting to go through another fraudulent election himself. This makes zero sense to me, I knew all along Lake would have this stolen as she should have as well…. I wish someone could rationally explain this to me.
Why would any hero sacrifice there lives for another? Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends.
Perhaps by running anyway is the only way to make the systemic fraud (as outlined in Kari’s suits and revealed in the court case) obvious to the willfully blind.
I posted it the other day;
In my mispent youth, I did some “hard time”, and yes, soon after arrival as “fresh fish” you WILL be ‘tested’ to see if you will fight.
Sometimes, you FIGHT, because you MUST, cause there are WORSE things than getting your *ss kicked.
I get the sense she was/is in it to win it.
Fortunately for Republic living Americans by running Kari has revealed the rot.
Just like President Trump has revealed the GOPe & uni-party.
Had they not run none of it would have been revealed.
Now what are we going to do about it?
Big of the Judge…since when does the losing party owe witness fees? I’ve never seen that in a case that was not outright fraudulent…
All the time. Loser in a civil case pays expert fees including witness. This is not unusual at all.
Victory ! Kari Lake escaped the death penalty.
I stand with Kari Lake
Oh Hobbs I hope the future that awaits you is ripe with the corrupt seeds you’ve sown.
The wonderful Kari Lake will not be permitted to live in peace.
She is now an enemy of the State, and the State will not relent.
Donald Trump’s future path is carved in stone. The State will never give him a moment’s peace.
Nothing against the State.
The American Republic has been a gift from God. It may never come again.
In order to grant KL a trial, the judge had to be persuaded her cases had legal MERIT, to be brought in the first place.
So, Hobbs asking for sanctions on the basis the case had NO Merit was predictable, but unlikely to be granted.
And now its on to appeals court, which IF KL gets a ruling that the issue of sig verification SHOULD have been heard, would mean WHAT?
They go back and try THAT case?
Frankly, I never dealt with appeals cases, so not that familiar.
KL DOES have her own, seperate legal fund you can donate to, and even sign up for a monthly contribution, as I have done.
And yes, regretably it IS run thru “Winred”; like running payments thru Paypal, I suspect its just easier than each candidate creating their own system for handling contributions.
Lake should take this $33k payment judgement as a victory and cut her losses
Crooked Hobbs wanted half a million $ for Clinton fixer, attorney Marc Elias.
Since the deck is stacked against her in Arizona,
she may as well drop her legal challenge and go national?
———> TRUMP / LAKE 2024
Hopefully, when she appeals, she gets a judge with balls.
Can’t complain about a voting process run by your opponent which harmed your own election without paying fees?
Ok. Got it.
The biggest concern here is Hobbs should have recused herself and office from this election.
I know, I know.
Can’t state the obvious.
AZ is the scariest election theft yet. I’m from NH and Hassan stole the election up here as well. Puzzling why Bolduc isn’t pressing it?.?.. It’s almost like this entire system is rigged, beyond their just stealing votes. Folks who lose don’t seem to give a shit. C’est la vie, I guess.
Add Masters, OZ, Mastriano, etc. They just fade away in part for lack of RNC support to challenge.
Kari is a force to be reckoned with and is destined for a YUGE future. Truth always stands no matter what is tossed its way. It just takes time.
He’s being threatened, for sure.