Sooner or later someone, if not Donald Trump, is going to have to start a second party.
Appearing on CBS with Margaret Brennan, incoming House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner walks through the priorities of the new HPSCI committee, to include that President Trump is horrible, Ukraine President Zelenskyy is awesome, Joe Biden is doing an awesome job and Ukraine needs more U.S. money and weapons.
If you listen closely, you might even catch the part where Mike Turner says he is working swimmingly with current HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff and current Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Mark Warner. Yes, folks, you just cannot make this stuff up. Ms. Brennan is absolutely smitten with Mr. Turner, he’s an acceptable republican. WATCH:
[Transcript] – MARGARET BRENNAN: And we turn now to Ohio Congressman Mike Turner, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. Congressman Turner, good to have you here in person.
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE TURNER: Thank you. Yes. It’s great to be here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So just yesterday, the Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines said that Russia was perhaps struggling to keep up with the amount of munitions that it’s using in this war in Ukraine, the cold weather is slowing combat. The Secretary of State, though, didn’t really give hope for diplomacy at this moment. Given what you know, when will this war end?
REP. TURNER: Well, the one thing that we know is that the- the gains that Ukraine is making are real, they’re real in the battlefield. They’re real in the support that they have around the world, they have with democracies on the floor of the United Nations, in condemning this aggression by Russia. But Ukraine really has to be the one that decides that if, when, and how negotiations are entered into, and at this point, you know, they’re battling for their country. They’re losing lives for democracy. President Zelenskyy says, I was just in Ukraine, just before the elections, he says openly, he understands that he’s the frontlines for democracy, and he’s fighting an authoritarian regime. And I think, you know, obviously, Russia has to reevaluate how they look at this conflict and how Putin looks at what he has started–
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you agree with the administration on this?
REP. TURNER: I agree absolutely. That this is, this is something where, that this is a war of aggression, that Russia needs to reevaluate and to withdraw from Ukraine.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’ve said, because you are poised to run the intelligence committees since you are at the top Republican when Republicans take control in January. Is this going to be an area where as you promised, you can take politics out of it and actually work across the aisle? What does that mean?
REP. TURNER: Right. So, you know, we’ve, when I went we went on a bipartisan trip to deliver to President Zelenskyy a message that there’s bipartisan support for Ukraine. I think there’s a number of issues that we’re going to be working on a bipartisan basis. What should the United States policy be? How do we make certain that the I serve on the Armed Service Committee and the Intelligence Committee? How do we make certain that they get the weapon systems that they need? How do we hold together this world alliance that-that we have where the world is condemning what Russia is doing? And of course, the expansion of NATO, we’re looking forward to Sweden and Finland, joining NATO, which is the opposite of what Putin believed he was going to achieve and attacking Ukraine. He’s now sees the expansion by two valuable partners with great military capabilities joining NATO.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to show our viewers some pretty extraordinary video that the Pentagon unveiled this week, a B-21 Raider. It’s the first US nuclear stealth bomber aircraft in more than 30 years. And it’s being packaged as this deterrent to Chin- to China. How concerned are you about the pace of Beijing’s nuclear development?
REP. TURNER: Extremely, and I want to co-co-commend the-the administration because they’ve been very forward leaning in releasing and declassifying information about what China is doing. They are expanding their nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons capabilities, their ICBMs that are targeting the United States. This plane is incredibly important. I served as chair of the air and land subcommittee as we, on a classified basis, began the process of working on this plane. And it gives us an additional balance, because it’s an additional delivery vehicle, additional way to combat what China’s doing–
MARGARET BRENNAN: to drop nuclear weapons?
REP. TURNER: to cause people not to drop nuclear weapons. I mean, that’s what’s so–
MARGARET BRENNAN: That’s- it’s really the deterrent.
REP. TURNER: Right. It is to make certain that the balance of power is there so that people understand that the-that the cost is just too great. When China is expanding the nuclear weapons, they’re looking at United States if we blink if we don’t, if we don’t respond, and they assume that they can get first strike capabilities that not only holds us at bay, but really holds us at risk, because then you have the leader of a nuclear power that might make that miscalculation and of course, cost unfathomable lives.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You talked about being open about intelligence. I’m wondering, in your new role, will you be asking the Director of National Intelligence for a briefing and a damage assessment related to Mar-a-Lago and the documents the former president took to his private home?
REP. TURNER: That’s already in process. I mean, we’ve already talked–
MARGARET BRENNAN: It hasn’t happened. In the new Congress will you ask for it?
[CROSS TALK]
REP. TURNER: Yes. I’ve just talked to the director of national intelligence about this particular issue. One issue that we have discussed with the director, which is very, very interesting is is that, you know, prior to the Mar-a-Lago and raid, no one in the intelligence community or in the national security community was engaged at all by the FBI to request an assessment as to what the risk of the documents that had been surrendered from Mar-a-Lago,or that might have been at Mar-a-Lago, or that were even perceived as being missing–
MARGARET BRENNAN: And you the Justice Department–
[CROSS TALK]
REP. TURNER: This was just the FBI and the and the archivist, which is basically a glorified librarian, coming together and deciding to raid Mar-a-Lago. Now-
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you’re not downplaying that taking classified material to your private home is a problem particularly for the commander in chief.
REP. TURNER: Absolutely not. There were just- there were other options that the FBI had versus the escalation that- that they did. That’s certainly going to be one of the questions we have. The Director of National Intelligence indicated they have conducted their risk assessment, and they are prepared to give both of our committees on the Senate and the House presentations as to what those are–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you have a sense of when or what the scale of the damage is?
REP. TURNER: At this point it’s just a scheduling issue. We just had a meeting with the director, but both Sen. Warner, myself and Adam Schiff. And as they look to how do we get everybody scheduled together, and those who’ve done the assessment, because again, it’s not just a director that will be coming–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
REP. TURNER: They’ll have to come forward to give us, what did they see, what did they have, and how do they perceive the threat that may or may not have existed from some of these documents.
MARGARET BRENNAN: This may seem a basic question, but all elected leaders swear to uphold the Constitution. Does calling for its suspension, is that disqualifying for a presidential candidate?
REP. TURNER: It’s certainly not consistent–
MARGARET BRENNAN: You know why I’m asking this question?
REP. TURNER: I do. It’s certainly not consistent with the oath that we all take.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So yesterday, the front runner for the Republican nomination, the standard bearer for your party, posted on Truth Social, and we know he lost the 2020 election, but continues to claim he did not. “A massive fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations and articles, even those found in the Constitution.” Should the standard bearer for the Republican Party, the front runner for the nomination for the presidency for your party in 2024, say this?
REP. TURNER: Well, I you know, I, first of all, I vehemently disagree with- with the statement that Trump has made. Trump has made, you know, 1,000 statements in which I disagree. There is a political process that has to go forward before anybody–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Constitutional conservatives are pretty clear about where they value the constitution–
REP. TURNER: Exactly. There has to be–
[CROSSTALK]
REP. TURNER: You do get picked questions, but I do get to pick my answer.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I know. I’m trying to get you to answer the question I’m asking.
REP. TURNER: There is a political process that has to go for before anybody’s a front runner or anybody is a- even the candidate for the party–
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you condemn him saying something like this?
REP. TURNER: Absolutely. And I believe answering your question that people certainly are going to take into consideration a statement like this as they evaluate a candidate.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I also have to ask you about the other statement and the people that he has been spending time with, a neo-Nazi, pro-Putin misogynist, named Nick Fuentes came to have dinner with the former president at his home alongside Kanye West who just this past week, praised Hitler.
REP. TURNER: This is atrocious. This is- everybody I think- everyone both condemns and is shocked and is as disgusted and nauseated by the fact that we’re even in this year, in 2022, having anyone that would make statements like that, nevertheless, have anybody who would engage in a conversation with someone who’s having- making statements like that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So having classified documents at the same place where they’re having the dinner–
REP. TURNER: Well that’s- that’s not–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –which we’re not necessarily securely held, and they’re government records that should be in government property, all those things together, it’s a problem.
REP. TURNER: Well, as you know, the FBI raided his home, and I suppose there are not classified documents there. But all of these are issues of judgment.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The president is saying he doesn’t know who he’s having dinner with at that home.
REP. TURNER: These are all issues of judgment, and a political process has to go forward. And I believe voters are smart, and they’ll take those things into consideration in a political process.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Congressman, thank you for coming on and answering questions. We’ll be back in just one minute so stay with us. {End Transcript}
Yes we need a MAGA third party.
“America First”….third party
Second party, as SD pointed out. Because right now there’s just the Uniparty.
DJT once tried a third party, Libertarians. And he came out of it realizing third parties assure Dem wins. Of course, that’s before they got weary and decided to steal the important ones.
Trump was in the Reform Party not Libertarian. Dropped out of the 2000 presidential race because he saw how no 3rd party could compete with the Uniparty machine and their media allies.
True, but times were not as ominous and grim as they are now. I wonder if he was then ‘testing the waters’ trying to get a feel for the different parties?
There has to be a large number of people who are fed up but don’t know how to effect any sort of change and just ‘go with he flow’ because they do not understand politics?
Well something has to be done right now the (R)&(D) are far to often one in the same.
Must be a seriously slow reporting day.
Just a reminder,….this is
not news.
What does this even mean? What, exactly is “not news”? The interview on a national news program? Sundance’s entire article addressing it? 335 comments on this thread. including yours? Your comment adds absolutely nothing to the conversation. I respectfully suggest you click on the Comment Guidelines link above. Good Lord.
Picking and choosing the news cycle for the up coming week.
How does he get that chairmanship, did McCarthy already make appointments?
He’s currently ranking member so he will become the chairman when Republicans take control of the House. Seniority usually plays a role in the chairmanship; particularly in the Senate.
Did he replace Nunes? What an idiot. He will be one of the gang of eight. That is scary.
We are so stupid that we deserve what comes.
What a rotten coward. Ohio should be ashamed of this moron. Yes a new party needs to be formed. Republicans are for the most part a den of snakes.
One thing I recall…is the reduced salary I endured when baby Bush was in office in the early 2000’s. Financially, I did better under Clinton…the best I ever did, was under the Trump administration.
My hypohesis is this: Corporations want us to work for free; they don’t want to ‘waste’ money on salaries.
DNC and RNC are both corporate types…so…I would assume, if correct, my hypothesis will hold true by both parties.
I view the whole cabal from the hamster tunnel cage…we are the hamster and still cannot get away from the snakes.
Wonder how much of the laundered money is lining his pockets? Apparently enough to get him to repeat his lines without a stutter. Foreign aid = domestic laundering. Another dropping from the not-so-great Buckeye State. 😡
Look at how Portman turned out. I am hoping JD Vance will be better but I’m not going to hold my breath.
We’ll see. Jim Jordan may be the last man standing.
Jim Jordan is voting for McCarthy-Luntz.
Well then, Jim Jordan is just another RINO pretending to be MAGA. Not surprised, just disappointed.
Maybe WE are the Republicans In Name Only because the Republicans we keep re-electing NEVER uphold their oath to the Constitution. Perhaps they are the real Republicans and we are the morons who keep electing them because we continue to believe they have integrity. Do you think this Ohio Congressman doesn’t hate you? As long as you don’t think so he’s safe.
Exactly. Do not ever look to the Coatless Wonder for MAGA support.
This was a response I received when I questioned why.
“ The margin is too close and they need to get on with business. The ones in dissent need to make a deal with [McCarthy]. Also they can remove him if he is too bad. I’m not for it, but doesn’t look like there’s enough support to pull off changing him, and they do need to move on now.”
I’m hoping we don’t find out Jim Jordan is Trey Gowdy Jr., all talk. I’ve been wondering for a while. My sister who is a Democrat says we can keep Jim Jordan, he is dirty from his wrestling days. Maybe they got to him.
Since he’s for McCarthy, he is absolutely a Trey Gowdy, all hat, no cattle RINO.
That’s exactly who he is.
Jordan’s main funder in 2020 was Alphabet/Google. He is bought and paid for like the rest of them.
Have the Republicans totally lost their minds? This is the first I ever heard of this guy, Turner, and may it be the last. Someone please, buy him a bus ticket back home.
They are doing exactly what their bosses, the globalist donors, are telling them to do.
The crazy ones are those of us who thought any of them would do what their voters want.
One of the Treepers, yesterday, I forget which thread…mentioned we should all quit spending money.
100 million angry voters who withdraw spending of what little discretionary income they have…will get someone’s attention.
Hell, no! We don’t want him. Send him to Ukraine.
Was he voted in??? If so, when? I never heard of him until this article. Can somebody please explain? and how cqn we get rid of him?
Eventually ALL those disappearing Ukrainian arms will filter into the EU.
They may be sowing their own new age of terrorism.
Yep… the Bongo Congo
I saw that about them showing up in Africa.
Also saw reports of them showing up in South America…
Of which, of course, the United stupid States of America…will eventually provide funding for to help them fight their own demise that they created, by being stupid?
Boko Harum of the #bring back our girls?
Agreed.
A Second Party.
When Trump announced way back in 2015 I thought it was a mistake to work within the Republican wing of the Democans, and I still do.
Fortunately 90% of the people who pay attention to this are reading the transcript here.
Unfortunately
The US Government’s Ukraine policy is for Ukrainian troops to kill as many Russian troops as possible even if it kills all the Ukrainian troops.
Apparently 100,000 Ukrainian troops are dead already. We lost 300,000 troops in WWII, so adjusted for population it’s even more than that.
I don’t care what the US Gov policy is for Ukraine. I have a great disdain for the Ukraine Nazis; we all should.
Sodam and Gomorrah?
I believe it’s more. A lot more. And that 100k does not include the wounded.
Read reports that in the Bakmut area the Ukrainian troops are occupying the wet trenches with the decaying corpses of their fellow soldiers.
Look up the WWII museum in New Orleans. Compare the figures for countries during WWII. It lists civilians and troop casualties. Look closely at how many troops Russia lost.
Taking slow deep breaths to lower my blood pressure.
Eat a clove of raw garlic.
When the 2020 election was stolen and nothing was done about it, that’s when Trump should have started the America First Party. There is nothing left to lose. MAGA will never win another election. It would destroy what’s left of the Republican Party and it would probably get absorbed into the Democrat Party where it belongs. Then America First Party could be a viable 2nd party.
As long as they keep changing ballots as they are scanned,like they are doing in GA, there are no clean elections anymore regardless of parties. I consider almost all of the elections corrupted anymore.
MAGA is an extremely powerful populist movement.
The problem is that communists overthrew our presidency and government at large when they stole the election in 2020.
Communists do not allow real voting. They care nothing about the voice of the people.
When President Trump talks about taking back our country – he really means that we must take back our country from the Communists.
Exactly how God is going to bring that about, I don’t know. But it will certainly be something wildly “unprecedented” as President Trump terms it.
NOW would be time to start another party, or perhaps a new country.
I have floated an idea further down from here.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjGTqpOVsAAskrS?format=jpg&name=large
~Turner is a fly
I read the opening remarks about the nazi Ukrainian Democrats fighting for democracy. I can’t bring myself to continue looking at their shite.
I remember when Trump floated the idea of starting a new party. McCarthy immediately flew to Mar-A-Lago to meet with Trump. Then suddenly Trump changed his tune. To this day I wonder what McCarthy said in that meeting to change Trump’s mind. In hindsight, I think it may have been a mistake to not follow through, especially given the 75million+ who likely would have followed him out of the GOP, myself included. If I recall correctly, didn’t Barr state that Trump was dangerous in that he may damage the GOP by starting a new party? I thought I read something to that effect recently.
I assume the easiest answer would be party support during an impeachment.
Perhaps, though this took place in early 2021 when he wasn’t President.
Is this guy for real?
Regarding the Ukraine…can he not even read/look at a map?
Ukraine is winning–REALLY?
Ukraine is a Democracy…..REALLY?
And even the stealth bomber—it’s a rip off of our tax money.
Brian Berletic at The New Atlas did a piece about the last couple of days. Worth watching.
This guy says Democracy so many times—my gut instinct is screaming! He’s probably on the take of Ukraine money, a RINO and just ignorant.
Another one who must be drinking way too many-Russian Mules!
This interview was pure propaganda.
How did this Turncoat get to be the House Intel chairman??? Honest question.
New party indeed.
The Reps are just the minor partner of the Dems in the Uniparty, aka CPA. Over 100 Congressmen are members of the Congressional Progressive Caucasus, which will probably refer to itself in the future as the CPA.
That’s why I switched my voter registration to Independent last spring, before the primaries.
Pray that the Supreme Court rules in favor of Brunson Brothers!
What a boob.
I don’t care what this guy said. He could have said everything we would have liked for him to say.
It’s WHERE, and WHO, he said it!
The irony of his being upset with who Trump sits down with, yet look who he sits down with, tells you all you need to know about him! Disgusting!
Where did they dig up this guy? I never heard of Mike Turner before.
20 years in Congress. Sounds like enough to me.
Sort of like DeSantis while in congress; a do nothing, unremarkable representative.
Like 44
The revolution cannot happen soon enough.
I am so sick of the rinos joining forces with the communists and destroying this nation by stealing from the treasuies to give our money to POS dictators like zalensky.
Trying to buy votes. Good luck with that.
This Republican controlled House will f#ck the R party into oblivion by 2024. Trump best separate himself from them and start a true Conservative party now to run under for 2024.
We gave up long ago. Now we just hand our children up to be molested, aborted, drugged and abused. We are Babylon and what comes is so f’n deserved.
This Rino Mike Turner cannot not be chairman of Intelligence. Zelenskyy was behind President Trump’s impeachment, persecutes Orthodox Christians, and already is given 100 Billion Dollars from our money only this year. America First.
I fear for the poor United States with a knumskull like Turner having to with Intelligence. He is a living oxymoron when it comes to that committee. Incredible fatuous stupidity.
If McCarthy approves of “incoming House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner” which he must, then the 6 or so Reps against making McCarthy Speaker are correct in trying to stop him. McCarthy uses others to promote what he really thinks and hopes behind that soft spoken almost wimpy charade.
As SD has shown, Turner is a hyper biased, anti Trump RINO of the 1st degree. Turner will divide the party and encourage a 3rd party. Do most of his Ohio Republican voters agree with the bilge in this interview?
Anyone who thinks there’s any difference in the swamp creatures needs to wake up… party is a construct to attempt to convince us that we have a legitimate choice…
Where do these turds keep coming from……?
Billionaire pockets.
Turner ran as a Republican; but clearly, that’s where it ends.
Seriously, People, what is it going to take to finally get it into your head that this country does not have two political parties? Other than some letters in the alphabet, there are no differences between them…NONE.
If you honestly still believe that they are distinctly different from each other and that the “republicans” need to gain control to fix everything, you are either dangerously naive or just dangerous.
This country is run by only one party; the Fascist Elite party. And those so-called “elections” every four years? All you are doing is selecting a different strain of the same disease.
They aren’t fascists at all. They’re sold out country out. They are Global Marxists.
This BS is why I find no hope from any R’s, no calvary coming over the hilltop, to save this nation.
Only direct intervention by our Lord God can change this mess. Since His holy Word speaks directly to such tribulation, I suspect we are in the early stages of the end times. We can never know exactly when this occurs, but people of faith know it’s coming, just as Jesus Christ is coming again. The players appear to be getting positioned. Klaus, Obama, et all.
It’s like they want to push people over the edge. So sick and tired of the horseshit.
I find it amazing that the same state that gave us an exemplary congressman in Jim Jordan also came up with this POS.
Same ol’ same ol’. I’n so sick of these spaghetti spined RINOs, genuflecting before the lame stream, fake news MSM. Hey, numbnuts, they’re your enemy, and the enemy of all right thinking Americans. Treat ’em as such.
Sundance said someone is gonna have to start a 2nd party – meaning that the 2 we have are joined at the hip.
Vet this idea as a way to slow-start a New Party, please.
The new name is, uhh, The Pri-Party. It’s primary contest begins in the weeks right after the last election. All declared Pri-Party candidates run in State pre-primaries – conducted weeks/months in advance of the primary contests of the Uni-party.
Conservatives are encouraged to participate in a pre-primary vote ‘contest’ thereby determining our most favorable candidates before the Uni-party can ‘tell us’ whom our candidates should be.
Identifying our most acceptable candidates up-front will help our cause in places like Alaska’s ‘shot gun’ start contest (what is that called?). Having pre-identified our candidate, we will not divide the conservative vote.
The Pri-Party contest winners are presented to the GOPe as tested and vetted with the promise that our money will follow our candidates. We pledge to NOT run our candidates in the general under the Pri-Party name.
Sure, the GOPe will try to shoot down our guy/gal. But what they fear is what we know and that is: we have the numbers. All we are lacking is coordination, ie, leadership. And right, correct, honest leadership is not found in the GOPe.
Addenda
*The Pri-Party Charter must keep neo-cons and rinos out.
*The design of the Pri-Party Charter must be viable enough to assume the function of a competitor to the other 2 extant parties in the years to come – if we have that long.
*Choice of delegates must favor grassroots purity without stifling innovation, creativity or amateur enthusiasm.
*A chapter for each State is an assumption but not an absolute.
*Crossover voting is an issue requiring a solution.
All I want for Christmas is ALL POLITICIANS DEAD! WAGE WAR AGAINST THE MACHINE OR SUBMIT TO COMMUNISM! LEFT OR RIGHT, ALL ARE AGAINST YOU
This is why I didn’t get excited when the Republicans took the house. There is but a micron of difference between the two parties.
With Republicans screwing us at every opportunity, please tell me why we should vote for these traitorous s.o.b.’s?
Turner is another Democrat with an (R) next to his name far to often the (R) & (D) are one in the same
So does this mean I should watch Hannity more and vote Republican harder to prevent these controlled opposition Marxists from surprising us again, again, again?
At this point I could careless about Ukraine we have an going war right here as it is and like I said before far to often the (R)&(D) are one in the same.
The very least that should happen is every single GOP voter re-register as an Independent. The GOP obviously hates us, we should return the favor. If we can’t even stop voting for these snakes then at some point the problem is us, not them.
More money for Ukraine?
Finland’s national public broadcasting company Yle News reported
U.S. Arms Sent to Ukraine Make Their Way to Boko Haram
https://yle.fi/a/3-12670239
Fabulous. (smh)
a RINO replaces a RAT
And the same BS continues.
Maybe they made it to the Fulani “herdsmen” (ie: bloodthirsty killers who have killed as many Nigerian Christians as Boko Haram) which is the same name the Afro-Caribbean Hackney-born Mssss. Fulani named herself after when Lady Hussey asked her where she was originally from at Buckingham Palace last weekend?
You should already know quite clearly that “Republican” and “Democrat” are two brand-names owned by “The UniParty, Inc.,” a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Chinese Communist Party. Two colors are a distinct but utterly meaningless part of their branding. There is now no difference at all between them.
A fundamental “sea change” is now occurring in both US and international politics, and the Republican brand would like to own it. But since the sea change is occurring directly against “The UniParty,” they want to co-opt it and, through a “palace coup d’etat,” ultimately destroy it. But this reveals their fundamental lack of comprehension that the entire world is changing… and in so doing, leaving them all behind.
Or perhaps its easier to think of it as a Cartel; two seperate businesses that decide to violate anti-trust, and collude to dominate and control the Market, to set prices and visciously undermine any attempts to create a true, non-cartel competitor.
The market Political influence, and their shared policies have nothing to do with the desires of their customer bases.
We have needed a true SECOND party, for at LEAST 60 years, that is not in doubt.
The question is, especially since Perot, and the measured the Uniparty took to squelch him and his party, HOW do you develop a second party.
PDJT, seeing what happened to Perots party, and the Tea Party, has been trying to take over the existing Republican wing of the Uniparty, not only by top down, winning the Presidency, but by bottom up, encouraging activists like Tracey Beane to become precinct captains, and building teams like KL’s in Az. and Mastrianno, etc.
The question is, has this approach proved itself unworkable, and if so, whats the alternative?
I am not yet convinced that it is unworkable, to cleanse State parties of GOPe influence and patronage, and turn them into MAGA Republican State parties.
It takes TIME. It takes WORK. And I still happen to think it holds more promise than attempting to create a party from scratch.
IF PDJT announces he is leaving, I’m THERE.
Until them, I am not going to let my disgust with the GOPe/RINOS, which I have held in contempt all my life (so nothing new) cause me to change my registration, rendering me an unarmed conscientious objector, in this fight for the Republican party.
“But, McConnell, McCarthy and Mcdaniels deliberately sabatoged MAGA Republican candidates! HOW can you stay in a party, after that?”
Of COARSE they did, they have been doing that since the escalator ride!
WHO do you think the archhitects if “the Insurance Policy” were?
MAGA is a DIRECT threat to the GOPe/RINO leadership of the party, and they have and will fight to destroy MAGA, because MAGA is an intrinsic existential threat to them.
And of COARSE the Dem wing if the Uniparty will play their role, in helping to protect the GOPe
leadership.
Cause without the R wing, the Uniparty bird can’t fly.
Until someone comes up with a better plan, I am sticking with this one.
I believe Sundance has looked into the future like a prophet of old. We may not see the consequences of continuing with the Republicans, until it is too late. Seriously, how are they going to change?
Who votes to keep wandering in the DC wilderness of crooks and traitors ? Who wants a better future and the promise of this land, for our descendants?
Correct.
RATS are evil.
RINOS are their evil enablers.
The new party would not be created “from scratch”. Start with 1/3 of the electorate (MAGA people) and go from there. Both uni parties would have to listen to us or die on the vine.
International, neoliberalism capitalism, Globalization and the displacement of the American middle class, open borders, international immigration, Middle East wars, the media, Hollywood, the music industry, the Federal Reserve (from its inception until Trump), Wall Street, the banks, hedge funds, the current heads of the DOJ, Homeland Security, CDC and State Department, Joe Biden’s Chief of Staff. The money and intellectual capital behind abortion, Black Lives Matter, rap music, pornography, LGBT, atheism, Leftism in all its is all forms since the 1950s. Who funds the Democrats (i.e. Soros)? Who funded Trump (i.e. Sheldon Adelson)?
Who is behind this? (It’s not the Chinese.)
It is those whom the political Right dare not name.
The Kanye interview was the shot heard ’round the world. It’s time.
I’m going with the bushCARTEL.
Is this what bush41 meant by: if the American people knew what we were doing we’d be hanging by our necks?
No, MGBSE. 🙂
Here’s an exercise:
On Wkipedia, look up the current U.S. Attorney General, current U.S. Secretary of State, current U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security, current U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, current Director of the CDC, current Democrat Senate Majority Leader, current Biden Chief of Staff.
Then, go the the “Early life and education” section in each biography. See if you can connect the dots.
Trump has to start a third party for MAGA to have any authority. The sooner people understand this the better.
Hopefully, if it is ever formed (by seriously-vetted people and not RINOs or coattail hangers) that they choose the American Bald Eagle as the symbol and not anything else; no lions, bears, or non-indigenous fauna. Just sayin’….. (ok maybe the White Lab or French Bulldog to get the Young stupid white women yogaista votes….)
The complete eradication of the government of the country formerly known as Ukraine by next March will destroy this fool’s agenda.
There will be no where to send anything to country 404 by that time.
The west is handing NATO over to the Russian’s on a silver platter. Ukriaine doesn’t even bother to collect all their dead any more. But the Ukrainian mothers know. Oh yes they know and it may be them that string up the comedian and his cronies.
In a couple weeks their dead will be flash frozen in their water-filled trenches just like the Siberian Mammoths from the ice age..
A complete waste of human cannon fodder.
Well said 🙁