In the 2024 GOPe roadmap for 2024, analytically and strategically South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem would be anticipated as the second-to-last entrant, followed by a carefully introduced Governor Ron DeSantis.
The most likely establishment framework would be for the prior entrants, Nikki Haley, Liz Cheney, Tim Scott and the two Mikes Pence/Pompeo to do the maximum negative attack damage against President Trump prior to the dynamic duo arrival. Flow through the ’24 primaries and Trump, DeSantis and Noem would be the last three standing before the wunderkinds team up after Nevada for the final assault. Standing where we are today, something like that seems most likely. It tracks.
With that in mind, and reminding ourselves that Noem has already pre-seeded with the customary and proverbial book launch, it is worthwhile paying close attention to how Team Koch and Kristi Noem organize their staging. In this interview, which reflects her very good and pragmatic position as a sponge for base voters, Mrs. Noem outlines her current views on the state of all things political, and, similar to Team DeSantis, stays high-road and reserves her jabs for Biden.
However, perhaps the most interesting aspect to the pragmatic position is Noem’s willingness to politely distance herself from the RNC mainstream by saying it’s time for new leadership at the chair. At 06:35 of the interview segment below, Noem does a good job of strategically and diplomatically calling for Ronna McDaniel to be replaced. WATCH:
Sharp, very sharp. Governor Noem is formidable, dare I say strategic, and Wall Street stealthy in her pragmatism. She knows where the third rail of anti-MAGA is located and has a solid skillset around how to avoid it. When she enters, she will scoop up Haley’s fractured team – hence a later entry should be predicted.
DeSantis/Noem? Sorry. I am a one man woman. Trump is the one. They all pale in comparison and will disappoint MAGA without a doubt.
Kristi might make it as a Trump V.P. if she gets rid of Ronna but Kari Lake has her beat..
If they managed to steal the election count in Arizona and it goes against Kari Lake she would be an excellent vice president for President Trump.
Agreed.
This could be the strategy.
Lol. Good, we are all thinking the same thing. Kari Lake as Vp is obvious weapon Trump has, solid MAGA ticket.
Com’on man! This was the most secure election in our history! No way democrats could steal any election. Move along now.
Tongue firmly planted in cheek!!!
Remember-berries how it was shaping up to be THE most secure election in history, in fact declared by the FBI to be more secure than the MOST secure election ever (2020); followed by a scary interregnum after the poll numbers came in a few weeks before the election, with dark ominous warnings that Russia may be interfering again and we need to all be skerred, and then magically fixed off those poll numbers with the correct rigs put into place in the correct elections such that EVERY SINGLE POLL was wildly off, and in fact the voters support the Democrats and want them to go even harder!!!!!11!!!!
Good times, good times…..
That’s the ‘ traitor Mike Pence ‘.
Not so fast! We haven’t seen Kristi Lake do much more than campaign. She certainly has name recognition.
do not forget that Kristi Noem had the chance to be the first in the country to have a law that prevented men in womens sports … but she would not sign it … because the NCAA would sue her.
The NCAA would have PUNISHED the SD State mens football team …. https://news.yahoo.com/south-dakota-state-football-gets-180118756.html … yes, she knows the diseased POWER of the NCAA to suddenly find “recruiting violations” and suspend the football program. The NCAA is and has been the MOST corrupt organization in all of sport.
And let me add … that the NCAA continues to be a virtual Plantation for young black men … giving them little more than room and board (and maybe … maybe … a degree in “mass communications”). Talk about blaxploitation!? Screw the NCAA. Running a for-profit Plantation of sport … on the backs of young black men. Pure racism.
Our youngest was offered a sports scholarship at a few U.S. Universities.
As a family we attended college tryouts at a University in one of your desert states.
There definitely was hints at racial tension.
The facilities were tremendous.
However the education offered was poor and the fine print in the offer for that particular institution was off putting.
Our youngest took an offer at a university here in Canada that had a lesser athletic program but a superior educational one.
I sure enjoy your college football though…
Cheers!
Yeah … at ASU … the academic standards may be low … but the hemlines and cutoff shorts are high … really high. Sorry … I just had a Jimmy Carter moment … and I was lusting after a young ASU coed with slim tanned “desert” legs ….
Yet still, she should have taken that stand. If you NEVER stand up, things will continue to erode, and the left knows it.
Out of morbid curiosity … what should be done with these young black men with no skill set other than playing football or basketball?
Are you suggesting they would be majoring in nuclear physics and not mass communications were it not for being exploited by being asked to play sports?
Also, the NCAA can’t hold the IOC’s jockstrap in terms of corruption.
The young black athletes with no other discernible skill set should get PAID. As should all players of all colors who earn an ungodly amount of $money for the NCAA colleges. It is unconscionable that US Universities earn $hundreds of Billions off the near-Free labor of the best athletes in their sports.
Sorry, but it’s not 1877 anymore. The idea of the “amateur” … “student athlete” is absurd. They’re about as professional as one can get. And BTW … there are plenty of Black athletes who actually DO major in serious courses of study. My son is an Applied-math graduate of UCLA … and one of his math classmates was a starting defensive back on UCLA’s football team. He had plenty of skill set … which he is using now that his NFL career is over. Yes, UCLA starting db … NFL starter … and math whiz. Don’t be racist now …
Which would have brought unbearable heat down on the NCAA, I believe. I wish she’d said, “Go ahead. I dare you.”
That spoke volumes to me. Actions speak lounder than words.
Noem was a coward when it counted. Trump is involved in scores of lawsuits but pushes ahead as a candidate while keeping MAGA/America First principles. That’s leadership!
That’s all you need from your VP. Loyalty and the ability to clearly advocate for uour positions and priorities
I agree. Kristi Lake is dynamite and such a great communicator but has absolutely no experience in the swamp. Nunes is my vice-president choice and hopefully is Trump’s.
Trump had no experience in the swamp. Isn’t that what MAGA needs, an outsider? However, Kari Lake has had extensive experience in the most dangerous part of the swamp….the corrupt corporate media. Makes her a real asset to Trump since she “knows her enemy” better than anyone.
Financed by Koch Brothers. Mon starter.
Who exactly is Kristi Lake? Kristi Noem? Kari Lake? Hard to follow your argument with the confused names.
Pardon, my error.
Amen! We don’t have to decide who to vote for for a long time to come. In the meanwhile, let the candidates show us what they have.
Totally agree
TRUMP/LAKE powerful team
ALL ON BOARD
Be prepared to lose then.
The administrative state simply will not allow Trump to win again… and the administrative state is so much more powerful…
by a factor of 3 or 4.
Yes they may steal the election again, at some point we are going to have to address this and do whatever it takes to win, you can read between the lines.
That may be but the administrative state wins if it is not Trump.
Ryan-Rove-Bushes- Christies-Cheneys and those like them will be powerful again with other than Trump.
The aforementioned names are part of the SWAMP. They are they same as voting for a democrat. We have seen how things work now, thanks to Sundance. Trump must go back in.
The recent noticibility of Paul Ryan in the news is particularly nauseating, I admit to hating that guy.
While your point makes sense, the party of stupid will soon be able to show us what it has in the next year or two before we have to make up our minds again. From what I see now, they are determined to show us that no matter what opportunities we hand them, they will botch it up, driving people to Trump/? as easily the best alternative.
Trump/Nunes!!!
Would be, but she is not interested in moving to DC. She wants to fix her state.
It will take TWICE the election fraud to beat those two …
And it will get stolen again if nothing changes.
OK let’s suppose you’re right what do YOU propose we do about it, just give up.
I’m a conservative Christian who loves this country and we’ve been persecuted for 2000 years and haven’t lost a WAR yet, battles yes but not the war. In fact people who read the Bible know how the battle is going to end.
People who read the Bible also know nations rise and nations fall. Only the Word of God lasts forever.
Be sure of this – President Trump will not pick a loser to be VP.
As it stands Kari Lake is a Loser.
One Contest Entered. One Contest Lost – ZERO Contests Won.
President Trump picks WINNERS not LOSERS.
One rigged contest entered. One rigged contest stolen.
Thank you for fixing the remarks that solicited your reply. Some people still just don’t get it.
agreed
Julian, this is my first recollection of reading one of your comments and I now want to BLOCK you from my feed.
What gives you the idea that she lost? Unless your referring to the cheating. If not, than Trump was a loser in 2020. Sorry but both won their elections, but the cheat says otherwise.
They’ve both been publicly cheated, humiliated and wronged. They are VICTIMS to many if played right. If there’s anything that resonates with a big piece of the Obama Cult is being victimized by “The Man”!
Trump has one more contest win than Kari, and they’ve both experienced having a win stolen. Somehow, I don’t think that disqualifies either of them.
The play field is utterly corrupt and anyone who would enter the game needs to know what the rules are and how to deal with them. If they’re people of moral character, and can do that, then they deserve serious consideration, period.
UMM…PT lost an election in the same manner as KL.
Yes, but he also won. KL has not.
KL has not lost yet. Looks like lawsuits going to the Supreme Court.
Thank you! I was trying to figure out how to say no to Lake and you got it right. Yes, we know it was rigged but none the less, she lost.
No to Pence in a skirt.
I know it highly unlikely, and I agree he seems to be drinking Kool-Aid at times, but it would take a heck’ of a steal/rig with a Trump Desantis ticket.
Arizona ain’t over yet. Why do you think Marc Elias is there threatening suits against any county that dares to stand against Hobbs certifying her own election.
Republicans as a party aren’t worth our effort to keep propping them up. They don’t give a rip what the voters want. Or need. They have consistently let me down as long as I’ve been alive. The Whigs were completely replaced by the Republican Party within a single voting cycle. Same can be done to Republicans.
That’s true about the Whigs, they were quickly wiped away when the people no longer supported them. The difference now is CU.
The corporations are the power behind the UNIPARTY, they can keep ‘pretending’ our ‘ballots’ matter for the election charade while the power of people has nowhere to exert itself.
“If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
All the states needed for PDJT to win in 2024 are being filled with people who will make sure it “Never Happens Again”
Bet on it
Noem might be forced on the Trump ticket by the GOPe but she really does not seem to have the Machiavellian streak needed for the job.
That would be a good thing. I believe she has suffered real hardship in her life. Unfortunately, it was long ago.
Good for her anyway – who wants that role? The GOPe would need to find another Judas Pence.
No problema. The Judas Pences among “our” high profile Party members appear to abound.
I hope President Trump knows she is a no-no. Enough said.
Around (6:25)…Duffy says, ‘One last question for you’
Watch her immediate smile…
This tells me the RNC question was prearranged (requested?) by her
and she was beginning to wonder if/when he’d finally ask.
Yes, yes, yes! Clearly a pre-planned, written, discussed, here is what we are going to do interview.
Anticipating the questions that will be asked in an interview isn’t hard. When you have been interviewed alot, it’s natural. So is smiling.
He knows. Remember the Trump rally at Mt Rushmore? She, at the time, was the heroine of the anti-lockdown sentiment in the country. It was clear then that she was keeping her distance from Trump.
I disagree on her qualities.
If they want her, that guarantees she will be the backstabber Pence was, x2.
However, before they get to option B, of PDJT as POTUS, with them sticking him with a traitor, they have option A) which is doing whatever is necessary, to keep him off the ticket altogether.
I really do not know either way but, Noem just does not seem to me to have the evil soul of VP’s Bush and Pence. They relished what they were sent to do to Reagan and Trump.
Noem isn’t evil but she’s ambitious. She’ll do whatever it takes and pretend to be whatever she thinks she has to be to advance upward in the GOP.
Look carefully at her record. She isn’t MAGA. She has no core set of consistent principles- she adopts whatever principle she thinks is “selling well” today. She’s not independently wealthy nor does she have a large campaign chest. This means she can be purchased ….. and probably has been.
But she’s not yet high enough in national politics to command significant support. Therefore she’s temporarily professing a belief shared by MAGA – McCarthy has to go. But she doesn’t complete the thought and add who she thinks should replace McCarthy and what policies they should promote. Nor does she take a public stance about President Trump. That’s a Big tell.
Plus…she backs Thune!!!
She backs her state and the people who represent it. It’s that simple.
Thank you, GB well said Sir!
Trump has no principals either. He is a populist. Nobody has ever called Trump a die-hard conservative.
Machiavellian? How would you know…ahead of time?
I’m a Trump voter who lives in Florida. Ron Desantis has been terrific we make money because we work. Desantis is not for those Covid Vaccibes that have killed people. Trump gave us red flag laws and banned Bump stocks. I don’t like the others to much I think Desantis who Trump finced will be President in 2024. Trump did not deport anyone
DeSantis is backstabbing MAGA.
RDS never embraced MAGA…..he just allowed them to participate for appearances….look at his stances and actions and you will see he has NEVER been MAGA
You know they’re desperate when they have to send Joeyobama to do uniparty dirty work.
They announce themselves.
How so?
What the heck are you talking about?
Florida has the strictest red flag laws in the country with the distinction of being the #1 state with the most gun confiscations.
Florida has 100 J6 detainees, of which DeSantis said I hope they stay locked up.
“Trump didn’t deport anyone?” LOLOL Tell that to the 200k+ economic migrants he shipped back to central America.
Good grief. Who tells you this stuff?
Please provide a link to Desantis saying that J6 detainees “Should stay locked up”
My search has not found one.
The only comment I can find from Desantis about the red flag law that Rick Scott signed into law two years before Desantis was elected is that he would have vetoed it.
“”Violence or rioting of any kind is unacceptable and the perpetrators must face the full weight of the law,” DeSantis said in a statement. “The Capitol Police do an admirable job and I thank them for their hard work.”
On January 7, 2021, DeSantis repeated his condensation of the rioters during a press conference regarding the response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
“It was totally unacceptable and those folks need to be held accountable. And it doesn’t matter what banner you’re flying under, the violence is wrong,” the governor said. “The rioting and the disorder is wrong. We’re not going to tolerate it in Florida.””
https://www.newsweek.com/what-ron-desantis-said-jan6-donald-trump-1718947
I think “condensation” is a typo. It should read “condemnation.”
OK…but DeSantis is consistent. He doesn’t allow BLM rioting. Or conservative rioting.
I’m OK with that.
DeSantis used the Jan. 6 storming of the Capitol as part of the rationale for pushing for his “anti-riot” legislation
When SOME posters start off with I voted for Trump or I’m a Trump supporter, or I love Trump or I’m MAGA and what follows is But, But, But, the warning flag goes up for me. They’re using a trope or device to gain purchase here.
Thanks Sundance!
The late Maha Rushie named people such as Joeyo “seminar callers”. In this medium they are seminar posters.
If DeSantis were the nominee would you vote for him? Would your MAGA friends vote for him?
Not if Mitch McConnell is still a leader of the Republican party and Desantis has not called for his removal from the party.
I will not vote if DeSantis is the nominee.
No.
No
DeSantis enlisted Publix for widest possible distribution of the “vax”.
https://www.flgov.com/2021/01/05/governor-ron-desantis-announces-partnership-with-publix-to-open-covid-19-vaccination-sites/
Trump never tried to mandate it.
DeSantis brought red flag laws to Florida:
DeSantis championed red flag laws for Florida:
https://www.fox13news.com/news/desantis-hopes-red-flag-laws-will-help-thwart-future-shootings
Good try.
Wrong.
Florida’s red flag law was signed into effect in 2016 by Rick Scott. Two years before Desantis was inaugurated.
The only comment that I can find from Desantis about that “law” is that he would have vetoed it.
In the article that you referenced, Desantis never endorsed the law. He just said that law enforcement needs to pay more attention to red flags from people who make threats.
Did DeSantis push for repeal of the Red Flag law??? Omission/commission
Rick Scott (POS-FL) had help promoting by Florida’s version of Liz Cheney—
Brian Mast-hole (POS-FL-18)
DeSantis didn’t mandate the vax. He just enlisted Publix to make it easily available for people that wanted it
Publix = YUK
Uniparty Ron is not America First.
Dear joeyo,
“What the heck are you talking about?”
Admin said it better than I ever could.
A reminder..
What happens when you lose credibility?
if you have no credibility, people won’t trust you.
If they don’t trust you, you won’t persuade them.
And if you can’t persuade, you’ll never be able to problem solve,
Ranger Ron will have to get more votes then he did as governor before he abandons Florida for higher office, like he tried to do with Rubio’s seat.
Have you heard Orange Man’s story of how Rescue Ron went to MAGA when he was losing his election?
Didn’t Ron do a rally with Kari Lake in Arizona? Does he know about the RINO Richter PAC and the conservative democrats colluding with the Soros SoS to certify Arizona?
Do you? Or just pretending like Pierre?
Ron doesn’t need or want the MAGA vote because he’s not looking to win, just like McCain in 2008, Romney in 2012, or Pence in 2020.
Don’t close your eyes. If you fall asleep, the MAGA wolves will eat you.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109315822774097761
Lol. Desantis. The reason trump wins is he brings all working class fractions together. Trump isn’t normal politics. To suggest Desantis could do the same, he just isn’t that electrifying, more like non dole with a stick.
Kari lake ….? She’s much hotter but still not trump.
Matt Gaetz could be trump. Stop with this Desantis crap. He’s great, but he’s not got the magic of trump, never will.
Remember governor Walker? He lasted about 30 seconds in the ring with trump. Desantis is the latest shiny thing – like JEB! Or Walker, or Thompson what’s his name?
Fred.
Wherever/whoever fed you what you espouse designed for the unthinking market sure had you accepting it all up making you an unpalatable regurgitator of untruths. Whether you agree or not with another, please fact check for yourself what others here are pointing out on RDS. In the event you end up saying again “I think” with such finality, it’s what you freely choose, for your life and all that concerns you or for your family.
We need to take back AZ or kiss 2024 goodbye. If the election is stolen from Kari then she needs to pursue her court cases and on a paralell track she needs to organize a recall and win that.
I, too, am a one man woman.
I join you both in your fealty to one man for ’24.
Here’s a message from the archives of another long beloved man of supremely rare accomplishment – an old friend to many of us: MEGA DITTOES.
ULTRA MAGA: for the health, safety, economic and cultural restoration of our once great Nation.
That is the picture of the reality.
Trump is the only true outsider who also has the courage and the ability to change things. I love DeSantis as a governor but, if he becomes POTUS, it will be because the GOPe wanted it to happen and he will be beholden to them, not us. Trump does not owe anybody in the GOP anything at all. In fact, plenty of new GOP office holders will be beholden to him for all the hard work he did to get them elected. It amazes me that there are people who can’t see that.
MAGA without the MAGA is just more of the same crimes against humanity globalist UniParty schemes, frauds, and treason.
The Presidency may be a lost cause in 2024 in any case, with Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, and PA permanently off the table due to fraud.
The was a movie titled “The Last Cowboy”.
Trump may well go down as “The Last American President“.
I tend to agree; however, PDJT was never going to be president, no way possible. But he found a way. That said, I’m looking forward to a SD (or other) piece on PDJT’s electoral road to the presidency in 2024.
One way forward might be laborious county by county work by the citizens to clean up the voter rolls, using data from Jay Valentine. But so far the effort is not enough.
That’s what I used to believe too, Emily, but after two elections with “harvesting”, I am convinced that there are no legitimate voter names connected to mountains of harvested ballots. That being said, a massive clean-up of the voter roles will eliminate ONE method of election fraud among the many successful assaults.
Those who are carrying out the election fraud have everything they need: beaucoup financing from deep pockets who
wantare dedicated to the destruction of the United States, as well as the assent of the bad actors inside both major Parties who pretend everything is as it should be.IMO, and issuing in great part from my education here, the Republican Party, writ large, has been and remains, complicit in the fraudulent results: 2020 and 2022. They are planning to throw another election in 2024 (if we manage to get the candidate we want), for which I presume they will be paid handsomely – discreetly or otherwise.
Grass roots work on the pavement level is mandatory for all of us, but the State Legislatures must do their part to strengthen, tighten, and in some cases overhaul their election laws – without opening a door to Dem-RINO-UniParty weaponization of the process state by state.
We don’t necessarily need same day voting or changes to any state election law.
The Republicans can develop a strategy of Two Factor voter ballot authentication to defeat voter fraud.
They can collect affidavits from those who vote for republicans in every county along with who they voted for.
If the counts don’t match up with the governments board of elections counts,
the election can be contested in a court and nullified.
Voters can even take a snapshot of their ballot as evidence.
Example , we have 55,000 voting citizen affidavits stating that these voters cast their ballot for all Republicans.
Why did the Board of Elections tabulate only 35,000 votes for Republican candidates?
The voters will have standing.
Pennsylvania had the opportunity to reinforce our constitutionally governed election laws but the Republican majorities in both Chambers of the General Assembly dinked around for the first year following 4Nov20 (“The Day After”), and worse, failed to summon the courage needed to strong-arm shaky State Dems for the duration leading up to 8Nov22.
They lacked the back-bone to challenge the anticipated Governor’s veto of new legislation, accomplishing so little in election reforms – with the small majorities they held in both Chambers – that now they are the minorities in both of those same Chambers.
The steal of PA ’22 was successful, top to bottom.
Almost forgot to add the pièce de résistance…
The PA Supreme Court with its 5-2 majority of Dem “associated” Justices will rubber-stamp everything the Dem controlled Executive and Legislative behives churn out.
And the state R committee is bad..what ever happened to the True The Vote people exposing that PA Voter rolls are stored on Chinese Servers..that’s why they went to jail?
I like Tulsi more.
Tulsi is too smooth – and boring.
She IS boring! Lol. Poor thing she’s trying sooo hard!
Looks like hers are not boring.
🙂
Exactly. Noem= Gwen.
Tulsi is world economic forum all the way she is radioactive stay away.
Tulsi is CIA imo.
So is Tucker Carlson, And Douglas McGregoor. And Sundance. I think Barron is too.
Tulsi was psych op in the military. A perfect fit for CIA.
I don’t think she is CIA.
I think she, like Tucker Carlson and Douglas McGreger and Sundance and Barron too are actually all Russian Agents. Being CIA is just their double agent cover.
She sure is a shape shifter.
She is an alien. A lizard person. I for one welcome our new alien lizard overlords…..
She is the perfect honeypot for you all, judging from your reaction to criticism of her. The perfect foil, except she started out as a dem and has FOX News behind her.
“has FOX News behind her.”
Tucker seemed to be ga ga over her, vomit time.
Who is Barron?
Baby Trump.
Seriously? Someone is talking about Barron Trump?
I am assuming that offcoursenation was having a s/ moment.
So Sundance is CIA? Ok then.
Conservative Instrumental Analysis=CIA
LOL!
Yes, all of this is funkally nuts.
I am not swayed positively, by her looks,…
Or negatively, by her boring demeanor or associations….
What intrigues me is how she voiced the ‘anti-war sentiment’ regarding Ukraine, which so few have been willing to do.
And the hypocritical left villified her for it. But what about the anti-war “base”; are they “all in on” Ukraine? What do former “Bernie Bros” Assange fans think about this foreign adventurism?
ok. good point, but it does not change policy for her to say so.
It doesn’t matter. They’re all compartmentalized.
I work for free, like OMG.
Make Transparency Great Again? ymmv
Tulsi is a Left leaning Liberal
she is not MAGA she is NOT Conservative.
we need to stop inviting disaffected democrats into the conservative party
it does nothing but water down the conservatism with “progressivism”
If we are too selective about the people we want in our camp, we will be very lonely. We would even have to expel ourselves. And the democrats would carry all 57 states in the next election and without even having to commit any election fraud.
You are on a roll tonight.
if we are less discriminating we could look like the Dimm/commies someday….we are already a good distance there with our lack of discernment and all the RINOs populating the party
Tulsi is nuts, IMHO.
Well said and I completely agree.
Tulsi is a WEF fraud.
Tulsi is WEF Young Global Leader alum. No. Just no.
YEAH, let us let Tulsi the Marxist into the GOP leadership….nothing like letting the enemy take the reins
Isn’t Tulsi a WEF “Young Global Leader?”
Kari Back Better
Keep Calm and Kari On
Is that you Tucker?
Trump/Noem maybe except she’ll be controlled by the same Wall Street globalist trash as DeSantis. Once she hits the national circuit she’ll get hit with her caving to the NCAA on the perverts competing in women’s sports.
At least Noem can ride a horse. That takes some actual skill and understanding of another creature.She has done hard physical work if she grew up on a ranch. I am looking for some connection to actual reality as compared to most swamp dwellers.
But can she ride or drive an 18 wheeler like our remarkable, in so many ways, current President?
Maybe!
You know, I have watched a tiny girl vet calm a bucking, sick horse by holding the horses nostrils in her fingers and then talking them down like they were having tea together. It takes real courage.
It is not nothing to face something bigger than you. Adversity is a good test of character.
However, that is why I admire Donald Trump. He is really something else. Noem has a ways to go.
The Professor?
I can ride a horse…six foot fences…and I do not know that I would trust me.
Have you mucked a stall? Or has Noem mucked a stall?That’s the test. But I would trust you WSB.
I have mucked out MANY stalls.
It just entails fork-pitching warm feces from a stall into a wheel barrow, for someone else to take wherever the owner of the riding stable/barn thinks is best. And then adding new hay into the stall for a comfy place for said horse!
While removing said horse from said stall while the event is taking place. Hmmm…. and then where are they kept?
And I have done this at 5:30 AM prior to breakfast. Not the most delightful thing to do. I have also corralled a tiny pony who loves to let itself out to eat all of the oats of all of the other horses in the barn. Little Effer!!!!
LOL!!!!! Yes, done all of that!
Oh, we just used to chain up each horse with their halter, in the middle of the barn, brush them down while mucking out their stall. Kind of like turn down service. !!!!!
Our best friends!
We put their breakfast out in the paddock and let them out of the barn .During the day they get a bucket, some hay and access to a small pasture.
These are old horses and that is our routine. “Out to pasture” as they say.
In the evening they come down to the barn for happy hour, which includes dinner and bedtime in their stalls.
They really are good company.
The horses thank you! I thank you. My sister thanks you. She loved horses.
Mucking is best done in the morning when it’s colder and the flies are hiding out from the cold.
Helps the nose quite a lot. Mucking in the afternoon made me wish the barn had AC.
If only we could the muck the stalls in DC. They’re full to bursting!
You’ll need bulldozers, excavators, and large dump trucks.
PS I have picked the hooves of a draught horse. They are really heavy! Hard to do!
Indeed! Sweet babies.
Heavy BIG babies!!!! Love them ALL!
I could be wrong but the weight seemed to be about 15 to 20 lbs. Maybe more. Tough on the knee.
Horses have a way of making the load heavy or light, depending on how they feel about it. They can pick up their foot if so inclined, as I am sure you know.
PS If you are 5′-3″, heavy!
How much has Noem taken exactly?
because from i seen it pales in comparison to the majority of the RINO’s including DeSantis.
Can you point to any legislation or favors she’s done either in congress or as governor for GOPe funding?
seriously asking as I am unaware of anything.
What I do know is the same GOPe media that is propping up DeSantis lied about Kristi Noem and falsely bestowed her MAGA Governor record during covid onto R.D. instead
Hard to think of any Republican Governor or Senator who got there, and is now, standing strong on America First (MAGA).
Maybe a few (e.g. Sarah Palin). The rest got to where they are because the GOPe and its donors recruited, groomed and supported them (i.e. own them)
Noem did reject lockdowns from very early on – her trajectory seems very similar to de Santis’. IMO.
She had an easy rode to hoe, with lockdowns.
We forget, in many States there was the parents that were ride alone in a car, wearing a mask types, that APPROVED of lockdowns and school closures; Noem didn’t have many of thos dingbats in her State.
Easier to make such a decision, when you know it costs you little, in votes.
You and your common sense. No fun.
Horse Back Better?
I couldn’t resist.
How much did Pence take? Certainly won’t be the sum of what DeSantis will get as DC does its best to stop Trump. As for Noem, if you dig into what she’s done and ignore what she says, you’ll find she’s Pence 2. When she’s not up front and center being seen as an important choice for the national level, she’s allowed to do most anything to appear conservative. Once you get her at a national level with something that affects the globalists, then you see her actions are of someone bought and paid for. She opposed stopping men from playing in women’s sports because of the NCAA. She stands by Thune and I have yet to see her publicly oppose him on anything. Thune is just like McConnell. It’s all about actions, not words.
I don’t trust Noem at all. To me, she is Pence all over again.
Not getting the Venn Diagram here — unsure what the “U” intersection refers to, as it’s certainly NOT the UniParty, which is represented outside the “MAGA Focus” crowd with those D & R spaces representing the actual UniParty (identical interests contrary to the MAGA crowd).
Maybe label it “M” for MAGA Focus? Unless the “U” stands for “Unfit To Be Tied” …
Maybe “unaffiliated?”
At the intersection, are the core issues which the Democrat Party and the Republican Party stand in unison on – those are the issues which MAGA stands diametrically opposed to them on.
The other issues are the ones the donkeys and elephants take opposite sides of – to maintain an illusion of choice in our Uniparty system of government.
It is at the intersection where Trump will focus his attacks on the GOP’s BigClub contenders in the Primary debates and forums – letting them expose themselves.
The U is for Uniparty, I think. Remember, the Dems and Reps both want you to concentrate on the social issues and fight on that turf. In the meantime, all the MONEY issues – YOUR MONEY – is controlled by the Uniparty (corporations).
Pretty slick.
Trump put us in the room and got us in the MONEY conversation. That is why he must be destroyed.
“Most people think elections are about two campaigns taking opposite policy positions on a set of issues; they aren’t.
The real contest is over WHAT the campaign issues ARE.
Notice how during the KL Campaign (and other MAGA Candidates, as well) the MAGA Candidate wanted to make the election about;
Election integrity
Secure Border
Parental Rights
Covid Mandates.
And neither Uniparty R primary opponents, nor D general election opponents, nor their MSM cheerleaders, wanted those issues to be what the election was about.
MAGA candidates succeeded in dictating the topics of debate, not their opponents. Yet further example of proof the elections in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Az, Nevada etc. were stolen, as traditionally the candidate that controls the topics of debate, wins.
In “the Court of public opinion” which takes awhile to render its decision, I think MAGA won.
KL ran on restoring election integrity, and now by their oen actions, they are confirming her narrative.
U = YOU
Get Kamala to explain it to you, she is an expert in all things Venn.
She has also had a lot of “work” done. Too much, in my opinion.
She is not so old. She may just take good care of herself..
An then there are the many scags and creatures in congress who need so much”work done” it would be impossible. It’s like a Gary Larson gallery of gargoyles. Ever watched the camera pan the gallery during the State of the Union address? Are you into horror?
Truly a scary sight.
You know, for a hot Republican chick,
she sure is a a rino.
Noem is right up there with that Hawaiian gal.
Getting by on looks, and not MAGA at all.
Give me an ugly, tough, fighting woman, who is full on MAGA!
No more rinos, no more hot women, no more false idols
Tough fighting full of MAGA women come in all shape, sizes, cool or hot (go to a Trump rally) Why do they all have to ugly? :-))
MTG.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder … doesn’t just apply to physical beauty, applies to any judgement about someone’s or something’s appeal or desirability.
Beauty is only skin deep is all about a person’s physical appearance which does not determine who the individual is. Often, for many a start up a path to disappoinment.
I’ll second that. All of them swamp creatures – none went or would ever go, through the political fires with Trump.
Please tell me what she’s done that is RINO?
because from where i sit (here in South Dakota) Kristi Noem is one of the most MAGA governors ever
Certainly was the ONLY Governor to follow the constitution and not trample our rights and freedoms like other RINO Governors including Ron DeSanctimonious.
Vetoed bill blocking male perverts in women’s sports – she caved to pressure from NCAA and Amazon. Then she told her loyal base, they were uninformed.
Some decisions are litmus tests, not purity tests.
https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/24/dear-kristi-noem-criticizing-cowardly-politicians-isnt-cancel-culture-its-democracy/
Why didn’t Noem just stay out of this?
https://kelo.com/2020/12/22/gov-noem-defends-sen-thune-after-president-trumps-backlash/
There was also this comment
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/02/gov-kristi-noem-if-you-dont-like-vaccine-mandates-find-new-employer/
The Inner Karen always comes out
well I am a woman and my pick for looksand everything else…..is Kari Lake
Me too.
Er, guess you haven’t noticed, KL is hotter than Noem and Tulsi, by far and as MAGA as it gets.
Yes, Yes and Yes!
Kristi Noem is the ONLY governor who bothered to follow the constitution 100% during covid.
IMHO that is NOT RINO that is MAGA.
trying to sell Kristi Noem as a RINO is a very hard sell IMHO.
a Trump Noem ticket works for me.
Especially since i am now hearing GOPes beginning to suggest a Trump DeSantis ticket (no thanks!)
To be fair, Noem declared a state of emergency that was rebuked by her state legislature.
So, she did try.
Noem was given a drive by thank you parade for her stand against lockdowns by some truckers as I recall.
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/kristi-noem-governor-gop-south-dakota/2020/04/28/id/965121/
Fact. And she has misrepresented this fact on every occasion.
Sundance, I have a simple question for you.
Why on earth would we ever want to be fair with an obvious insider splitter candidate.
If we play by their rules we all loose in the end.
I can’t speak for Sundance but I like to look at everything about a candidate before condemning them. We on the right do not circle the wagons so much when it comes to people who are supposed to be on our side.
Noem could be useful to MAGA, if she makes that choice. She probably will not be MAGA and hitch her star to DeSantis instead.
one of those who cannot be sure what a woman is……she lost the fight for women in sports when the opponent was the NCAA……do we really need another “fighter” who stands down when the fight gets too tough?
Doesnt matter who wins what. Until the election process is shored up, and those tabulators find a place in the landfill, no repub will ever become the pres in the near future…..or if ever again.
After Trump ,if he looses no Republican will ever have a chance to participate in a fair election again.
Just about the same time the electorate is at the breaking point a fake RINO will appear talk the MAGA talk and stab us in the heart as soon as he of she can.
That is why I think it’s critical that we do not give the 2024 pack of ,piece of pie sharing ,voter fraud accepting, Pence want to bees any focus or discussion except to repeat to ourselves a simple phrase .
NOTHING BUT ANOTHER RINO BACKSTABBER.
If we do that at least we can say if all Is lost ,which very well may be, we didn’t have a part in it.
I’m beginning to think it’s impossible to be a ‘good guy’ these days. You may start out that way but the Cabal/Black Hats can ruin you reputation whenever they want. They can plant anything on your phone or computer, tell anything defamatory about you and you are immediately the bad guy. It just doesn’t seem worth the hassle any more.
Most really good, honest, uncorruptable people do not enter politics. To be a politician in the first place is to be suspect.
Making sense of today’s politics is greatly avoided when one knows of a natural path blending our founding, which is liberalism, coupled to rational views on religion. Even without these two things, the better system is not what there is today.
Trump’s radicalism points the correct way. Any other is death to the USA. Radicalism is needed to save the USA. Defining radicalism is not from past notions other than what created the USA. When “progressives” bring old and failed Marxist, socialist, communist ideas designed only to revert to dictatorship, then people should understand this radicalism I bring up.
yes. Why?
We need change at the RNC. Even with change I won’t give them a dime! They do not work for average republicans. They are the chamber of commerce and McConnell.
Is Noem trying to look like Melania Trump?
Lipstick much?
I am having terrible flashbacks, “Give us the House, give us the Senate, give us the White House”. I need a barf bag.
Intelligent, articulate, professional, well-mannered, poised without being obnoxious and patronizing, extremely good looking, and a proven winner. What’s not to like? Any scandals, shady business dealings, documented improprieties and infidelities? No?
Then I’ll be looking forward to DeSantis/Noem ticket.
What comfort is there to have the poised and well-mannered take over the reins of America’s death march to globalism?
I’d rather stand with an obnoxious tough-ass general not afraid to call out the enemy within, and lead us back to liberty and prosperity.
Marry in haste, regret at your leisure!
Who has endured the fire like President Trump? That is not something to discard, dear Summer. DeSantis will wipe you off his shoes s he enters the White House. No more.
Do they have a GOPe blog that you can support with your money and your vote?
The splitter strategy cannot work. Scenario A is DeSantis does not run and Trump wins the nomination overwhelmingly. Scenario B is DeSantis jumps in.
Trump has a MAGA army that will support only him, so any additional candidate that throws a hat in the ring is taking votes from DeSantis.
“so any additional candidate that throws a hat in the ring is taking votes from DeSantis.”
The strategy of the GOPe is not “de Santis 2024”, it is “Stop Trump 2024”
Keeping in mind the intersection in Sundance’s Venn diagram – the GOPe would rather see the Democrat take the Presidency than to see Donald Trump back.
Whoever the Democrat Party decides to run in 2024, he will be just as obedient to the globalists and corporatists as the GOP’s pick would be.
“The strategy of the GOPe is not “de Santis 2024”, it is “Stop Trump 2024”
Keeping in mind the intersection in Sundance’s Venn diagram – the GOPe would rather see the Democrat take the Presidency than to see Donald Trump back.”
THIS. 1,000x this. The GOPe doesn’t give a damn about winning. They only care about protecting their turf from the great unwashed MAGA base that they have such contempt for.
yep
No. Trump will spectacularly lose to the decomposing corpse on life support in ‘24. 100% guaranteed because Trump on the ballot is the best thing that could happen to the Democrats: it will ensure a very high D turnout, and these folks really hate Trump. Nobody voted for Biden in 2020. They all came out in droves to vote against Trump.
“Stopping Trump” this time around does not mean “muh globalism” or “muh patriotism”, it means having a chance at winning. Lots of other Republicans on the ticket will also lose if Trump wins the nomination.
Sad. Abused coservative syndrome. How about Jeb! Summer. He look like a winner to you?
The GOPe taking the White house may be a different course for America than the Democrats taking it, but her demise will be unchanged.
You obviously are disregarding the roadmap Sundance is developing as well as detailed research and references he’s made available in the search bar above. Without even an attempt to reference or refute any of it, you are just pissing into the wind.
“Sharp, very sharp. Governor Noem is formidable, dare I say strategic, and Wall Street stealthy in her pragmatism. She knows where the third rail of anti-MAGA is located and has a solid skillset around how to avoid it.”
Perhaps Noem reads the Treehouse.
She should read it, if she does not.
If you’ve not noticed, the American political parties have morphed, and are in the control of corporatists – a nasty form of global fascism.
Surrendering your freedom to a woman with a good plastic surgeon and make-up artist will not make it any less miserable or permanent
One man has called this out and is willing to lead us back to becoming a free nation. You can vote can for him or you can vote for economic slavery for you, your children and your grandchildren.
to anyone would vote on looks, manners or politeness at this junction of our nation’s destiny
You’re the “expat” who was posting here yesterday. You don’t even live here and you’re telling us your expat opinion on who we should vote for. Well gollee gee, I sure want to hear from you/NOT.
I think you are misunderstanding the plan. Noem, DeSantis, Trump split votes to allow their preferred candidate in.
Always good to remember that South Dakota is a tax haven.
Rich from all over the world people park their money there. 🧐
It’s early for picking running mates, but not for speculation and filtering. I know little of Noem beyond what has been shown publicly but she does tick some of the right boxes; there are others that might do that and more, so it remains a mystery. Pence was unknown, at least to me, before the pick and I never got a good vibe from him and it turns out I was right about that.
What is NOT unknown is Trump’s candidacy and I have to wonder what the strategy is, this far out and with so much at stake.
With the current national mood and continuing low information voter syndrome, a vote today would put Trump low on the finishing roster no matter the running mate. The low-hanging fruit is now ripe but promises to rot if there is not a concerted move to pick it, with organized and muscular energy. Are we getting another “let the people decide” McCain format? The direction is certainly there for it, and the recent disaster of a mid-term are tea leaves that remain unread.
The base, me and you, will not push Trump over the finish line. What WILL is the same formula from his Presidency, but where is it? It is early, yes, but where is Trump? Twitter welcomed him back but goose eggs there. The competing platforms are a predictable fizzle, so there is no second front from them, and the many failures of the present installed administration go unanswered.
What is going on?
Where is Trump on Twitter?
Hasn’t it become clear that this whole Musk / twitter fiasco is a faint intended to bring information manipulation to a hole
new level.
Ridiculous user polls.
Ridiculous statements from Musk.
Musk doing everything he can to undermine Trump.
He voted for Biden and is still not sure it is wasn’t the right thing to do.
He endorses DeSantis for instead of the only guy fighting wholesale corruption.
Then he says the more he looks into twitter the worst it gets.
I guess he isn’t too concerned about the future of the USA as we know it.
You know he is fully aware of the massive voter manipulation Twitter was engaged in by selective censoring.
Not a priority yet. We have plenty of time to address that.
By 2024 we’ll fix it so the rubes will never notice it again.
Not one bit of interest in voter fraud.
Wake up everyone.
Trump/Grenell 2024
Outsider strategy.
Outsiders only need to be considered.
Any insider would be Pence 2.0 .
If Trump gets the nomination and then is forced to pick any RNC insider for a running mate all will be lost on day one.
We need to help Trum dominate everything RNC to have any chance to overcome RNC DNC voter fraud operations.
Many/most times the VP selection is after the candidate wins the required amount of primary votes and is selected, many don’t seem to realize this.
That is when the candidate is forced to “pick” the one chosen by the party.
In PDJT case if all the smear campaigns and not “legal” mumbo jumbo doesn’t stick, and he is the front runner early they may do the force sooner trying to place someone they can destroy, like they did with Palin.
On the day she announces , Trump will announce Kari Lake as VP and the entire establishment will crumble,
Still, the machines need to go for trump to win, else Brazil, prayfully
Has kamaltoe seen this venn diagram yet?
Apparently she’s a huge fan of venn diagrams.
SOCRATES: So this is how things stand, my friend. If you will design a life for intended rulers that is better than the life of a mere ruler, you will be able to have a well-managed state. For only in such a state will those rule who are truly rich, not in gold but in virtue and wisdom, the sort of things that a truly blessed person should be rich in. However, if those who crave only after their own private advantage take on the administration of public affairs, thinking that this is how they grab at the greatest good, the state will never be managed well. A struggle for power will result, and this internal domestic war will destroy both themselves and the rest of the state.
Noem was so weak she caved to the NCAA on women’s sports and allowed transsexuals to compete. She dismissed her decision with the comment, “ that’s what my legal counsel advised me to do.” We don’t want her anywhere near the White House.
She is just another card carrying member of the uni-party.
I think the Clintonistas called this maneuver, “triangulation “?
Has Noem been pushing for a sales tax holiday for at least a month so the citizens of South Dakota can get some reprieve for their grocery bill, or will she do another photo op and hand a dollar over to a consumer to pay their bill? The GOPe will suck her in…she’ll be half way in the straw with no way out.
DeSantis plus Noem (or anyone else) might equal a primary win against Trump but not without cheating.
Our voting system is toast.
Our voting system plus Trump equals ZIPPO because our voting system is toast.
Toast.
Yes. I still vote as duty to God and country but I agree with Trump that our system is “rigged.”
✝️
A harsh but objective outlook.
Reality is not not supposed to be polite, just Reality. Good morning.
I see – politics and reality are not compatible.
Top of the day to you.
In the perpetuation of the illusion that the “professional politicians” have been advancing for more than 40 years, to minimize the perspectives that make the country work, to promote “ideals and values” that have no foundation in over 40 Thousand years of history – or whatever number is actually accurate – of decent behavior, mutual respect between intelligent adults, discretion, manners, one minding their own business untill otherwise required to not do so, there are several dozen other descriptors to choose from; no – politics and reality are not compatible. Good evening, may your front yard not get snowed in. No, that is not sarcasm, that is reality, shoveling snow for over an hour is not enjoyment, it is work.
‘Republican’ candidates that align with multinational ‘investment’ with communists and I will not vote for President. Right now the only one that I am sure that paid a price fighting these forces is Trump. No, I am not naïve; doing business under market forces with other countries is one thing, giving away our country – my manufacturing work and intellectual property – for personal gain… NO.WAY. Right now it is Trump only. To think of what that man has endured and lost in the last seven years makes me think of our Founders.
Liz Cheney? You cannot be serious, seriously.
How about Trump / Noem, or Trump / Lake? Ron DeSantis needs to wait his turn. We need the Trump wrecking ball, then DeSantis can use his 8 years to clean up – in which he has shown strong talent.
Sundance,
Here is where I am having trouble.
I believed NAFTA was good. I thought Citizens United was good. At one time I thought the war in Iraq made sense. I even wore a hat that had just a “W” instead of MAGA. I thought Donald Trump was crazy when he toyed with the Reform party.
Trump is the breaking of the glass we need in 2024 because he owes no one and believes in the MAGA focus.
I can’t profess to have recognized the road the Corporatist we’re taking us down back then. Only through my daily visits to CTH and watching DJT have I seen many of the errors of my own thinking.
My two cents. Think of MAGA as simply America First. If there is a major issue that affects main street America, and this politician doesn’t want to talk about, they are a poser.
H1-B visas is one of the big issues the corporatocracy has declared a no-go zone. Controlling our borders. Backing away from China.
If they only talk about social issues but not meaningful economic ones, they are uniparty. If they advocate policies that are good for “business” but will put mom and pop restaurants, farms, and other small businesses at a disadvantage, they are uniparty.
Anything that connects to Mittens in any way, shape or form has got to go. Including him.
FWIW, going to have to invite the GOP Establishment in if winning elections matters. Still ballot harvesting, allowing after hours votes to be counted, and using stealing votes through software “glitches” the last I checked. Fix that, then we can toss ’em to the curb.
Well, she’s at least a good looking woman—oops can’t say that 😱
I saw an old name mentioned here, Nikki Haley. She needs to go away. She’s native born, not natural born as required by the Constitution. She isn’t eligible for the Presidency because her parents weren’t citizens when she was born. There are others. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz on the Republican side. The Democrat side has a few as well. They should have been called down previously, but weren’t for some reason. We accept that people should not be allowed into the country any time that they want based on the law. We should be able to accept that some people should not be allowed to run for the White House as a matter of law. It’s time to call them out and not let the politicians decide who we are once again stuck with in office.
We’ll stick with Trump.
I get that you like Noem, The Snow Queen and Not My First Rodeo author. Soft spoken large hooped earrings cowgirl hat slender and the most used “easy on the eyes.” But it is not your eyes we should be worried about.
South Dakota has a lot of land and few people, 900,00 maybe. Sioux Falls, Rapid City and reservations, small towns.
Tourism is the second industry. Rapid City has a bad homeless problem, begging and crime. A very liberal town and mayor. Sioux Falls has fallen into decay. The old Morrell packing plant is owned by you guessed it.
A great governor might not be a great president or VP.
“A great governor might not be a great president or VP.”
This is a keen observation. Small State vs. National Politics is as different as small business vs. large business. I seriously doubt Koem would make an effective politician. She should run for Senate before Pres/VP.
The Republican party has a problem. Their deceit and treachery are out in the open. They are pretending that no one can see it, but everyone can see it, and they have no idea what to do about it.
Optics matter. There will be staged debates in 2023 just as there were in 2015. For the Republican field to look like America, and thereby give comfort to the touchy-feely suburban soccer mom crowd, there has to be at least one female and one Afro-American at the podia. These are the appointed roles of Noem and Scott.
Alas, neither hails from a state that any Republican nominee is in danger of losing, so neither of them really brings much to the ticket as a VP selection. This is why the Walker-Warnock race is so important (and why, in my judgement, Walker will “lose”). With Lake removed from the game, Walker becomes a very good fit for Trump.
South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, sure.
Thousands of South Dakota voters don’t live where they register
Bart Pfankuch, SD News Watch
Americas Mailbox is a mail-forwarding and vehicle registration business in Box Elder, and is one of several South Dakota businesses that provide quick residency to clients. Many of those clients then go on to register to vote at the business address even though they don’t live there.
Thousands of people who don’t live in South Dakota have become state residents, registered to vote and cast ballots in elections, which some lawmakers and election officials fear could unfairly alter elections.
State election officials say they are aware that people are claiming on voter registration forms to live at an address where they do not, but a lack of enforcement of state laws allows it to continue, South Dakota News Watch has found.
In Pennington County, about 6,300 voters are registered to a single rural address where it is clear no one resides; about 1,400 people are similarly registered to vote from a business address in Hanson County.
Some county auditors say they routinely approve voter registration forms, signed under penalty of perjury by applicants, which they believe contain false information about where the applicant resides. A top election official in the Secretary of State’s Office said she is aware of voter registration discrepancies but has not been ordered by a court to challenge questionable registration applications.
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Critics worry that lax state residency requirements and the hands-off approach to voter registration enforcement have heightened the potential for voter fraud and election tampering in South Dakota.
The questionable nature of voter registration came to light in the ongoing court case involving incorporation of the town of Buffalo Chip in Meade County. After reviewing the case, a judge wrote a report confirming that a handful of people who claimed residency and registered to vote at the Buffalo Chip campground admitted at a public meeting that they do not live there.
Daniel Ainslie, city manager of Sturgis, which opposes the Buffalo Chip incorporation, said the voter registrations at the campground are evidence of how the current system is flawed and potentially open to fraud.
“This is about voter integrity; we’re talking about people registering to vote in a state or a locale where they do not live,” Ainslie said. “What I’m worried about as a South Dakotan is that this is such a small state that it’s not hard for major parties to go over to Minneapolis or somewhere else and register 5,000 people to vote in South Dakota and flip a state legislative race or congressional election.”
Ainslie said he is shocked that state officials have been unwilling to address the flaws in the voter registration system. “It’s unbelievable to me if we allow that to occur,” he said.
State lawmakers considered a bill to tighten voter registration laws this session, but despite some concerns over potential election fraud, the measure died in its first committee.
Other than a few weeks a year during the Sturgis motorcycle rally, the land around the Buffalo Chip Campground is largely vacant. A judge ruled that people who registered to vote at the campground address did not live there.
Lack of enforcement across the state
Many of the questionable voter registrations result from businesses that allow non-residents, often retirees traveling the country in recreational vehicles, to easily register to vote at the same time they register a vehicle and establish residency in South Dakota. People who register a vehicle and get a driver’s license in South Dakota can establish residency if they have a receipt showing they spent one night in the state. Some mailbox businesses have an RV park or motel rooms on site to make that process easier. The services performed by mail-forwarders all appear to be legal under state law.
Once a person establishes residency, registering to vote only requires filling out and signing a one-page form.
However, the voter registration form requires the signee to affirm that, “I actually live at and have no present intention of leaving the above address.” The form states that an applicant who perjures themselves could face two years in prison and a $4,000 fine.
Pennington County Auditor-elect Cindy Mohler said she and other auditors have been instructed by the state that unless someone formally challenges the registration of a voter, they should continue to approve signed registration forms from any location in the county.
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“We don’t police that and we don’t do research on this person to say have they really stayed there,” Mohler said. “We are taking the voter at their word.”
Mohler oversees a voting precinct in Box Elder where more than 6,300 people are registered to vote at the address of a mail forwarding company called Americas Mailbox, located on Americas Way.
“You could use somebody else’s address, whether it’s Americas Way or Cindy Mohler’s backyard,” she said. “When forms come in to our office, we have no way of knowing if you ever stayed. We have no way of proving that.”
A circuit judge who reviewed the Buffalo Chip incorporation case in 2016 was convinced that voter registrations had been improperly filed.
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In his findings of fact and law, former Fourth Circuit Judge Jerome Eckrich ruled that voters who registered at lots on the campground site were not living there. “The ‘lots’ referred to in the voter registration form are just raw ground,” Eckrich wrote.
The judge also found that, “No one actually lives at the residence addresses identified on the Meade County Voter Registration forms.”
One address in the East River town of Emery is home to between 1,100 and 1,400 registered South Dakota voters, though none of them live at that location, said Hanson County Auditor Lesa Trabing. The legal voters at that address – home to the mail forwarding business My Home Address – make up roughly three times the total number of residents of Emery, which has a population of about 450.
Those registered voters form the largest voting precinct in the county, making up a third or more of the 3,300 active voters in the county, Trabing said.
All of the voters registered at that address must sign the registration form under the threat of perjury.
Whether they live at that address or not, Trabing said that as long as the paperwork is filled out and signed, she certifies the applicants as legal voters.
“The state knows about this and they say continue to register them,” she said.
Trabing said she does not know of a time the Emery motor-voters had an impact on an election, and added that no one has ever legally challenged their voter registration. She said she knows of several other South Dakota businesses that are registering vehicles and voters.
“These places are popping up all over; it’s a common thing anymore,” Trabing said.
On its website, My Home Address spells out for potential customers the advantages of registering a vehicle and gaining residency in South Dakota.
In a section called “Why South Dakota?” the primary answer is that the state has no personal income tax or personal property tax on vehicles. Further, it states that the one-time excise tax on vehicles is only 4 percent, that there are no vehicle inspections required. Another section notes that South Dakota does not have an inheritance tax.
Other mail forwarding services – such as Dakota Post and Your Best Address in Sioux Falls and Americas Mailbox in Box Elder – provide customers with similar reasons to register vehicles or obtain residency in South Dakota.
In an FAQ tab on the My Home Address webpage, the question, “Do I need to travel to South Dakota to become a resident?” is answered with the statement, “No!!!! You can establish your address and register your vehicle through the mail, but you will need to travel to South Dakota to obtain your driver’s license.” The fees to have mail forwarding and other services at My Home Address start at $150 a year and rise depending on services selected.
Bruce Kjetland, president of My Home Address in Emery, serves on the Hanson County Commission and said he has examined local voter data that he said show his mail-forwarding customers do not have an impact on local elections.
“They don’t vote in school board or county commission races, but some voters will vote in legislative races and for president,” Kjetland said.
My Home Address follows all state laws and does not encourage customers to register to vote when they sign up for mail forwarding, get a driver’s license or establish residency, said Kjetland, a Republican.
“We’re not here pushing that ‘Hey, you better go register to vote and vote Republican,’” Kjetland said. “We just do our job and help the customer do what they want to do.”
Kjetland said his clients are often traveling the country in recreational vehicles and simply need a home base and a place to establish residency. He said the registration fees paid by his clients generate about $450,000 a year in revenues that are split between the state and Hanson County.
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“Their domicile is where they’re at because they kind of live all over, but they use South Dakota as their main address,” Kjetland said. “It’s great for South Dakota because they live everywhere but we get the money because they register here.”
Kea Warne, director for the division of elections within the South Dakota Secretary of State’s Office, said she is aware of the risks associated with mail-forwarding services and high levels of non-local voters registering there.
“They could maybe vote in someone different, and that could be an RVer,” she said. “They vote to not let a wheel tax go through, or a bond election. The precinct in Hanson County could change the outcome of that election.”
At this time, there’s no way to know how many people are registered to vote in places they do not live. Other data can help fill out the picture, however.
About 60,000 out-of-state vehicles are registered in South Dakota, according to Wade LaRoche, a spokesman for the state Department of Revenue. Meanwhile, revenues from vehicle title and registration fees have doubled over the past decade, from $88.3 million in 2009 to $176.7 million in 2018, LaRoche said.
Perjury threat doesn’t stop registrations
Warne said her office regularly fields phone calls from people who are registering to vote in South Dakota but get worried when they see the declaration of address and the perjury statement on the registration form.
“We get a lot of calls from RVers and they ask how they can legally sign that voter registration form,” Warne said. “We can’t give them any guidance, but they know they’re signing under penalty of perjury. If they are not living there, they are perjuring themselves with the information they are providing on that form.”
Yet Warne and other elections officials say they do not know of any registration challenges or criminal charges being filed against someone who misrepresents their residency on a voter registration form.
“That’s never been challenge in court, so unless there’s a court ruling challenging it, a county auditor who receives a voter registration and everything is complete and goes through all verification checks, the county auditor has to process that application,” she said.
The Secretary of State’s Office was hoping that the state Supreme Court or the judge in the Buffalo Chip case would rule in a way that gives finality that it is illegal to register to vote at an address a person does not live, though that did not happen, Warne said.
“We were hoping the Supreme Court would say that you can’t just camp one night and register to vote, that either yes, they can come in and camp at the location and register to vote, or else they can’t,” Warne said. “We were hoping we would get a determination on that.”
Election, voter fraud a national concern
Concerns over voter registration policies in South Dakota come as questions about the fairness and sanctity of American elections continue to permeate the national discourse.
Voter fraud and election tampering are at the heart of an ongoing dispute in North Carolina in which the state recently set a new election after allegations that absentee ballots were manipulated to give one candidate an advantage.
In a sparsely populated state like South Dakota, it isn’t hard to find elections where a few fraudulent votes could swing an election. In 2018, seven legislative races were close enough to warrant a recount, and some county races came down to one or just a few votes.
A 2012 report by the Pew Center on the States highlighted serious flaws in the process of accurately and fairly registering voters across the country.
Titled “Inaccurate, Costly and Inefficient,” the study discovered that one in eight voter registrations in the United States, about 24 million, were no longer valid. The study found that 2.75 million people were registered to vote in more than one state, and that 1.8 deceased people were still listed as registered voters.
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The report concluded that voter registration methods are outdated and have not kept up with modern technology and are “plagued with errors and inefficiencies that waste taxpayer dollars, undermine voter confidence and fuel partisan disputes over the integrity of our elections.”
One element of the South Dakota registration form authorizes cancellation of voter registration in another area but provides no directions on how to do that or assurances it will take place.
South Dakota also places no time limit on how long someone must stay registered at a specific address, said Sturgis City Attorney Greg Barnier.
That means someone who had a position on issues far from where they live could simply register to vote in that area and cast a ballot there, Barnier said.
“Just the thought that people can start hopping around to vote in Rapid City because they’re interested in the civic center expansion and then vote in Yankton because they’re interested in the pool referendum there,” he said. “There may be people in Meade County who would like to vote in Rapid City to raise taxes to pay for a civic center that could benefit them, and that would be legal.”
People who register to vote in South Dakota must sign a form under threat of perjury and possible prison time on which they affirm that they live at the address listed. Thousands of people, however, are registered to vote in South Dakota but do not actually live here.
Some state lawmakers are aware of the potential for abuse of the South Dakota voter registration system.
Rep. Tom Brunner, R-Nisland, filed House Bill 1129 this session to require that in order to register to vote, a person must actually live in South Dakota. Current law states that a voter must obtain residency 30 days prior to an election, but is somewhat vague on how legal residency is determined.
Existing law related to residency for voter registration states, “the term, residence, means the place in which a person has fixed his or her habitation and to which the person, whenever absent, intends to return.” The “whenever absent, intends to return” language in the law has sometimes been cited by those who don’t believe that a person must live in South Dakota in order to vote here.
Brunner’s bill would strike that language and add stronger language requiring that, “a qualified elector may have only one residence, shown by an actual fixed permanent dwelling, establishment, or any other abode to which the person returns when not called elsewhere for labor or other special or temporary purposes.”
Brunner said he brought the bill after constituents neighboring uninhabited properties grew concerned that the owners of those properties could improperly vote in local elections. He said the language is modeled after a residency law in North Dakota.
“We’ve got some issues where people don’t have a residence and … they’re not an established resident in an area and they’re affecting the vote and outcome of elections,” Brunner told the House State Affairs Committee in early February.
The bill was opposed by Warne, who said the “special or temporary purposes” language was too broad and placed an unwieldy burden on county auditors to interpret what special purposes might be.
The committee voted 10-3 to kill the measure but not before lawmakers, including House Speaker Steven Haugaard, R-Sioux Falls, expressed concerns that South Dakota elections could be subject to fraud if residency changes aren’t made.
“I agree there’s a high potential for some districts, where a handful of votes make a difference, so we need to give this attention very quickly,” Haugaard said, noting that he’s heard of situations where groups of like-minded people were bussed into an area to register to vote in order to unfairly swing an election.
“I know there are abuses that take place in a lot of states. It hasn’t been quite so much here yet, but it’s on the horizon,” said Haugaard, who suggested voter registration would be a suitable topic for a summer legislative study.
https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2019/03/05/thousands-south-dakota-voters-dont-live-where-they-register-news-watch/3065884002/
Argus is a fairly left leaning publication. My neighbor and her mother who actually live here after moving here this year had one heck of a time registering to vote. You have to provide at least two billings for utilities to register. Mom is in assisted living and that created a snafu.
Let’s hope your perception is right.
More than 160 South Dakota city voters list Walmart address Originally
published May 18, 2018, at 12:53 pm
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/more-than-160-south-dakota-city-voters-list-walmart-address/
Seth Tupper May 19, 2018, Updated Sep 27, 2018
The Pennington County Auditor’s Office records show 162 people have the north-side Walmart on Lacrosse Street listed as their residence on their voter registration.
Chris Huber, Journal staff
https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/162-pennington-county-voters-list-walmart-as-address/article_37a5c1e3-bee5-56a0-9846-6016eb4fb2be.html
I am a NeverNoemer. I agree she will suck up all the Nicki vote, much of Bridgegates as well.
Noem is putting down a marker for the 2024 election steal – it will not be her fault.
Get ready for Newsom.
The problem is that we the people have no say whatsoever in who leads the GOP. The politicians pick the candidate who is best at raising money and keeping things status quo and nothing else really matters. We the people are at the very bottom of their list of priorities.
You say that like they haven’t already detonated their political careers in the last couple years.
If the base you desire to lead is so easily led astray by such simple concepts and actions then they are not the people you want as your base..
Do you really want a base that will break under any opposition? A base that cannot discern the obvious deception and read the actions behind the rhetoric?
If anyone alive still gives a crap about Nikki Haley, Liz Cheney, Tim Scott and the two Mikes’ Pence/Pompeo or what they say. Those people are not our base. Those people need another booster.
LoL – booster
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/renowned-oncologist-sends-urgent-letter-calling-uk-end-covid-vaccine-program-immediately-cancers-diseases-rapidly-progressing-boosted-people/
First impression from the Fox vid: the shape of Kristi’s mouth is luscious and dissolute. Kristi is another kind of pornstar. That is all. P.S. That Venn Diagram is the first one I’ve understood without careful study. Excellent!
If we don’t reform the ballot-mongering electoral system in at least the key ‘swing’ states, the Democrats will continue to steal the Federal elections, and no Republican, MAGA or not, will win.
But, FWIW, I rather like a Trump/Noem ticket.
Noem = Pence in a skirt
yep
Not even close. Pence has chicken legs.
yep. and the chance of reforming those systems is exactly ZERO
Why would the federals of the government fix what they purposefully broke to allow them to cheat, steal, and commit crimes against humanity?
They can not fix what they broke, but they will greatly apply their means to “fixing” the “problems” while they spread their corruption wider and deeper.
It falls to the actual power, that of the people, to remove the corruption and restore the Constitution. Any other advocacy is not only wrong and resigned to failure but only creates more evil.
Sure, and how do you propose to use “the power of the people” to “remove the corruption and restore the Constitution”? If we can’t elect enough representatives to change the laws allowing junk-mail and ballot-monger voting, we are stymied. I’m open to suggestions.
You begin by telling one other person your idea.
HEY! Don’t be so negative. Lindsey Graham and the rest are working on a letter to send to you on how they plan on fixing it.
There’s still only one outsider in the game and that’s Trump…If I were to pick a running mate for him, it would be Kari Lake. You notice she was just at Mar-a-lago…I think Trump is keeping an eye on her in that regard.
Please no. Feisty Kari was a news reader in her former life. How does that qualify her to be President?
Great for her if she can win her battle for Governor. A term or two as governor would be could to expand her resume.
So, you would prefer someone who has spent some time working within government.
What about DJT?
Yea, we need more like those “experienced” repubes that have been selling out MAGA country since 2015.
That’s worked out pretty well so far. Please!
That’s exactly why she would be a great choice. She knows exactly how to handle the media scum because she has first hand experience.
Kari would be a good choice to replace McDaniel
I like Kari Lake better, she the most Trump like and give a straight answer.
Both Lindell and Giuliani would be good choices. Lake is still an “unknown”, but, IMESHO, ANYONE would be better than ronna. The real GOP needs a new Chairperson at the RNC, and a also change in their House and Senate “leadership”. Jim Jordan would be excellent in the House, and Senator Paul would be my pick for the Senate. Again, IMESHO, ANYONE would be a better leader than mitch.
Just the fact the Rona is a Romney gives me concern.
I like Kari Lake’s style more as well, but no one has had the opportunity to see how she governs yet. I could vote for her, but no experience would be to her detriment with certain voters
South Dakota is a HUGE onshore TAX HAVEN
its where rich people move their family trusts and credit card companies move their back office processing facilities
South Dakota IS Wall Street of the West
its a parade of the RINOs