If CTH had a small part in helping people to reset their reference points around modern electioneering, well, that’s a good thing.
The difference between “ballots” and “votes” is previously explained {SEE HERE} and absolutely critical to understand before moving forward.
Thankfully a large percentage of conservatives, intellectually honest independents and even some establishment republican donors have read our research and are now starting to have the ‘votes‘ vs ‘ballots‘ conversation. That understanding is critical, because any conversation that does not accurately identify and accept the problem is futile.
Having said that, please do not think we are smarter than the RNC. We are not. Miss this point and you miss the next ‘ah-ha‘ moment.
The RNC club knew exactly what the DNC club were doing in their 2022 midterm “ballot submission assistance” program. Yes, that’s exactly what “ballot harvesting” is called now. “Ballot Harvesting” is illegal in many states, “Ballot Submission Assistance” is not.
Progressive political activists in the state of Arizona are now scrubbing the footprints of their ballot submission assistance programs. Wait, Arizona(?) you say. Yes, Arizona a state where “ballot harvesting” is illegal, but email, fax, online and in person drop-off is possible. Ballot assistance is essentially the same harvesting process but in a smaller and more individualized scale.
REFERENCE and CONTEXT is critical to understanding.
After Eric Holder left the Obama administration as Attorney General, he was hired by the State of California to defend against the Trump administration in early January 2017 (LINK).
Why?
When Eric Holder left the Obama administration, his firm was contracted by California during a process of linking the motor vehicle registration files to the Secretary of State voter registration system. Holder was advising on part of a technology system being constructed to bridge the DMV and SoS offices. You might know this as a “Motor/Voter” process. However, former AG Eric Holder had a very specific function in the construction of this technology bridge.
The process of adding voters to the registration rolls when they receive or update their driver’s license was seen as an opportunity to expand the voter rolls. Making the voter rolls as big as possible is the key to the utilization of mass mail-out balloting. I will skip the part where California started giving illegal aliens drivers licenses for a moment – you can obviously see how that would play with motor/voter rolls – instead I am choosing just to focus on the specifics of the Holder aspect.
The DMV needed to connect to the SoS office. This was simply a part of a tech system that needed to be built. CTH has previously spoken with the lead engineer, a member of a very small technology group, who worked in the California information technology (IT) unit that was tasked with building the system that connected the DMV to the SOS. [NOTE: I invite the state of California to sue me as they will likely claim what you are about to read is not true.]
In the process of connecting the two state networks together, there needed to be a “flag”, essentially a check box, where the applicant to the DMV would attest to being legally authorized to vote. It is a positive affirmation, a check box, that says the Driver’s License holder affirms they are legally eligible to vote. That affirmation (the technical flag in the process), when affirmed, then transmits the information to the SoS office with the DL operator identity, and the California driver is automatically added to the SoS rolls and registered to vote.
During the time when Eric Holder was the legal counsel for the California Secretary of State, the technology team was constructing the internal data processing systems.
The lead engineer in the unit was instructed to code the data transfer in such a way that even if the “check box” was left unchecked, the registration data would transmit from the DMV to the SoS office.
Essentially, instead of only those who affirmed their legal eligibility by checking the box, everyone -including those who did not check the box- would get a DL and would automatically have their information transmitted to the SoS office. Everyone who received a driver’s license or state issued id was automatically going to be registered to vote, regardless of their legally authorized status. That request led the engineer to contact me.
I wrote about it, published the details, then the engineer freaked out as he/she realized there was only a very limited number of people who could expose the issue. He/She was worried about his/her safety and family and asked me to remove the article. This background is how I know the details of who, what, when and why the California mass mailing ballot process was being constructed.
In the 2018 midterm elections we all watched the outcome of that process surface in the weeks following election day. As each day passed more and more California mail-in ballots were being counted and day-by-day Republicans who won on election day 2018 watched their lead evaporate.
What happened in the California 2018 midterm election surrounding state-wide ballot distribution, collection (harvesting) and eventual presentation to the counting and tabulation facilities, was the BETA test for the 2020 covid-inspired national ballot mailing process.
The outcome we are seeing from the 2022 midterm ballot collection program was not just similar to the 2020 general election ballot collection program, it is a direct outcome of the refined BETA test from 2018. Now we have multiple states following the California mass distribution of ballots approach. Washington state, California, Arizona, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, there’s a long list.
In many states mass mailing of ballots is now codified in election law. Activist election lawyer Marc Elias now coming in behind the construction team of Eric Holder with the legal arguments to support the ballot collection programs.
The Importance of Election Rolls – As you can see from the California initiation point (Motor/Voter), in order to most effectively use the mass distribution of ballots as an electioneering process you first need a massive state secretary voter file in order to generate, then mail, the physical ballots.
Remember, votes require people – ballots require systems.
Any institutional system that can link people into the SoS system to generate a larger registration file for ballot distribution is a net positive. The key point is not to generate voters, the key is to generate ballots – the more the better. Mass printing of ballots is the origin of the electioneering process.
Any state or federal system that links a physical identity to the secretary of state voter rolls is good. Any system, like the USPS postal change of address system, that would remove physical identities from the state voter rolls is not useful. The goal is to maximize the number of systems that generate registration, that eventually generates ballots.
Beyond the Driver’s License issue, it’s everything. Sign up for public assistance, get registered to vote. Sign up for state benefits, get registered to vote. Sign up for a state id, get registered to vote. Sign up for state college, get registered to vote. Sign up for a grant, get registered to vote. Sign up for unemployment, get registered to vote. Sign up for any state system and get registered to vote. Get married, change names, change addresses, etc, that’s how the voter rolls expand and that’s how the massive distribution of ballots is created.
The states then fight against anything, any effort, any process, that would purge voter rolls or fix incorrect voting rolls. To use the new electioneering system, the system operators need ballots created, they no longer need votes. They need ballots.
Downstream from this process that’s where you find the “ballot submission assistance” programs. This is where the local community networks, regional activist groups and widespread community organizers come into play. Instead of advertising or the previous electioneering systems around candidate promotion and Get Out The Vote (GOTV) efforts, the majority of donations to the DNC are now used in the ballot assistance programs.
SIDEBAR – Now keep in mind, the origination of the ballots starts with expanded voter rolls. The rolls contain the registry status of people, regardless of their accuracy or inaccuracy.
If you were going to hire a printing company to send out fancy wedding invitations, you would need to provide that third-party with the names, addresses and details of the invitation recipients, right? Now, overlay ballots into a similar framework. Do you remember the recent issue of Konnech (CEO Eugene Yu), an election technology company, indicted for transmitting the data files of every registered voter in Pennsylvania (and more) to China?
Inside that Konnech story is how the modern ballot creation issue connects to the activity of Eugene Yu. Did pre-printed ballots arrive en-mass, in the U.S.A, as a result of the massive data files transmitted to China? That might be a sticky-widget for quite a few interests. Then again, what state just dropped the charges against Yu on the day after the midterm election? Oh, California. I digress…
The RNC and DNC are Corporations. Please understand that both the RNC and DNC are not government entities. They are each private corporations with their individual agenda, rules and memberships. These are corporations that function more like private clubs.
When it comes to ballot collection as a newly enhanced modern electioneering process, the RNC club isn’t incompetent or stupid, they knew what the DNC club was doing.
The RNC club operated in the 2022 midterm election to support (willful blindness) the DNC club effort. Why? Because the RNC club wants to remove the problems they have with the populist movement. The issues are big.
The RNC Club wants, as billionaire donor Ken Griffin explained from his discussions with Ronna McDaniel, Ron DeSantis and Kevin McCarthy, to remove the populist elements within the Republican party, vis-a-vis MAGA, and realign with the multinational corporations on Wall Street. “He wants to improve the diversity of the GOP and blunt the vein of populism that has complicated the party’s relationship with the corporate world — two things he’s consulted with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy about.” (link)
As you can see, the issue of “votes” -vs- “ballots”, is not a singular issue for American voters. We have a mixed bag of mutually aligned common enemies in this process.
Republican politicians will support any process, including mass mailout ballot distribution and collection, regardless of its corrupt status, that will eliminate what they define as the problem within their club.
Their problem has a face….
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Midterm outcome making sense now?
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It’s a clever enough trope, ballots versus votes. I’m betting SD can proffer these chestnuts until the lights go out
However…
Here’s the unavoidable tautology:
Until officially vamoosed ala Kanye, it’s just more astutely supergranular analification that stratifies the obvious and, apparently, troubles no one greatly –by virtue of the fact we’re still able to read it.
The ultimate litmus for actionable on-point? Enforced radio silence.
Not that I’m wishing the Treehouse ever go dark, but…
Free Ye.
Thank you Lord for giving us the eyes to see. Yes, the Lord is working for our very souls to be saved. That is what we must do, pray and lean into the Lord. He gave us this republic, now we must, must, keep it. PA is lost. I am in PA, and pray for the souls of our leaders.
This is a confession. DNC has been conspiring with Soros to install their chosen/owned SoS’s for YEARS! It makes stealing elections extra easy! (It was in those infamous emails- in detail)
When the Republican party does stupid things, like not pass any meaningful changes to election laws.
Obama and Holder did it…
This is becoming laughable.
Except its a state issue, and some states did, like ours.
there was a lot the Republican Party could have done to head off the ballot fraud. Back in early 2016,the NY Times ran an interview with a Democrat political operative who described in detail the ballot fraud operation he ran and that he knew of several other similar operations. His group would get absentee ballots from sympathetic USPS workers,steam open the envelopes,and insert their own ballots,reseal the envelopes,then hand the bundles back to the USPS worker to be delivered.
The R Party could have funded groups to check and verify voter registrations and demand the dead,moved,and ghost registrations be deleted.
BTW,the ballot harvesting/ballot fraud was happening in Orlando,a Democrat candidate recently filed an official complaint with our new Election Security Office. None of the local media ever reported on that. I even emailed them about it,NO response.
There was a Federal Judge’s “consent decree” prohibiting the Republican Party from election integrity involvement. Pusillanimous Republicans let it stay in place for 40 years.
Except it isn’t one bit funny.
All my Mexican friends are happy. No corruption in Mexico in comparison to USA! NONE
I doubt it. The mexican cartels run their elections. Why do you think the mexicans want to come to the US????
D u h
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that was a good laugh for the day
If a candidate the cartel doesn’t like runs for office, they get shot. Look up political assassinations in Mexico.
3 washed on tourist beach today. I don’t want anybody harmed , but GOD does say often in Bible “you should fear the Lord your God.”
RATS are evil.
RINOS are their evil enablers.
Try to start learning how politics has been working since 2006 in our Country. There is too much to say to fully explain why Obama and Holder really did it…. But maybe starting with Obama’s fairy tale autobiography could help. I will say that Obama was a member of Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam during the 1980s. His name was Barry Soetero until he joined that crowd. He never held a job in his life other than a self described title of Community Organizer. Check into how he became a US Senator from Illinois. There is so much more to know about that man than you have ever imagined. Hillary Clinton had to blackmail him to get him to appoint her as the Secretary of State because she had claimed she had the goods on him. She thought he was going to try to get back at her eventually so she set up her private server to do State Department business. As the President, he hired his long time Chicago legal advisor Eric Holder to run the Department of Justice. The two of them weaponized that department and the IRS to take out members of the Tea Party whom they feared could defeat them in 2012. Obama is now living out his third term by getting Joe Biden elected. This goes on and on and Barry has never had to answer one question about his own background.
I even missed his Communist indoctrination and a few more 1970’s criminals come up in that story. So, no “Obama and Holder did it…” is not laughable, but I bet our whole country will soon wish to hell it was laughable. Our entire Government is corrupt to the core and Obama doesn’t have to do anything but pull the strings attached to the Joe Biden marionette to continue running our Government. ‘That’s no joke, man.’
As far as the Repugs are concerned, you have to control both houses and the Governorship of a State before you can do much to fix the election laws. They couldn’t get it done in the majority of the States because Demcommies are winning with their Ballot Harvesting rules and they will never decide to change anything as long as they are. That fact is laughable except that it really never has been funny.
if this is ballot submission assistance imagine “medically assisted death”… the march is on
This is why Soros pushed so hard for leftist Secretaries of State; they control election process.
The nation is lost until states are willing to enact strict voting laws and reforms similar to Florida. Even with that I am sure the cabal will find some way to strike back. Sadly those states we need to gain the true majority were overtaken by evil forces post 2016. PA, Wisconsin, Michigan, with Georgia and Arizona suffering from select county manipulations.
The SoS does not always control the process. The Constitutional ownership of that process belongs exclusively to each state’s legislature, and the SoS can only have that power if they delegate it to him.
And they can take it away again, at any time, if I’m not mistaken.
Do you remember what the Georgia legislature ended up doing? Meetings and then, nothing. In Nevada, our legislature meets every other year (which is fine by me) but they did/do nothing.
Valid comment about the legislatures, where a number were “Republican”, and still repulsive. However, IMESHO, there are legal issues that need to be addressed, like “chain of custody”. It wold seem that there is the concern of the chain of custody in every state election process, and it would seem that any failure to follow that would render those ballots invalid. IMESHO, there might be a lot of room for LAWFARE about such actions, and also lawsuits about the dereliction of duty by state election officials. A few high profile cases might change some attitudes, and maybe affect the interest of the national lawyers to cool their jets.
Soros also targeted winning Election Supervisor positions. a corrupt Supervisor can do a LOT of evil.
Actually, we may find out very soon that they do not. If the case before the court goes according to how the constitution is written, they will only be able to operate within the rules they are given.
Exactly👍
And the AGs and state prosecutors. So they won’t prosecute the SoS.
Bingo!!! We need lots more people to see this charade the Left does! Control Allegheny and Philadelphia counties in Pa. you control the state outcome. Ballot harvesting (oops) ballot submission assistance is ripe and ready to control the Republicans!
Eric Holder didn’t do anything on his own volition. His mustache is clearly in charge, running the show, and Eric is just along for the ride.
Great post. I just want to know if anyone else is suddenly getting messages when they click on links in the CTH emails claiming that the site is not secure? I finally had to come directly to the website to read any articles. I’m wondering if this isn’t just another effort of big tech censorship.
Try the Brave browser.
As I’ve shown here with a bazillion MSM links about how Dims want voting by mail and mass mailing of ballots and the GOPe doesn’t.
Why?
Because that results in the pollution of total votes with massive numbers of low information votes by people previosuly too lazy to get off the sofa and stand in line to vote.
THAT was responsible for the Rep failures in BOTH 2020 AND 2022.
There Was A “Red Wave” In One State, Florida
November 9, 2022
http://endoftheamericandream.com/there-was-a-red-wave-in-one-state/
So what made Florida so different from other key battlegrounds?
It is actually very simple.
This year, Florida greatly strengthened their election laws. The following comes from an official announcement about the election integrity bill that Governor DeSantis signed back in April.
“Twenty years ago, nobody thought Florida was a prime example of how to conduct elections, but we have become a national leader by running the most secure elections in the country,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “We need to do more to ensure our elections remain secure. We have ended ballot harvesting, stopped drop boxes and the mass mailing of ballots, and banned Zuckerbucks, and this bill will give us more resources to make sure bad actors are held accountable.”
SO, unless and until the rest of the nation does what Florida did, Reps are eternally screwed and your informed vote is, far more than ever, overwhelmed by the moron votes from an ideal representative democracy within our majority idiocracy where every idiot can effortlessly vote.
But what do you think the odds of THAT happening are?
Also, you can see why the Dims wanted to lock in the current situation with a FEDERAL law to prevent states from fixing this.
On the dangers of true representative democracy in an idiocracy:
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” – George Carlin, referring to the IQ bell curve
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” – H.L. Mencken (1880 – 1956)
OR a senile puppet as in 2020.
I think there is a misconception about votes and ballots. People pick up,ballots, they make sure they are for the right candidate or they change them. They are not magnanimously volunteering to drop your vote off for you. It is their vote.
Kinda atrange how at 3AM something like 250,000 ballots are found and they ALWAYS support the Left! One hundred seventy five thousand for the Left assures a victory for them, that’s why only the major counties delay counting! Kinda strange how Florida, the third most populous state, has an election results three hours after the polls close!!! Pa. takes a week or better! Now we see how the Left counts ballots to win. Election transparency is the way to secure elections!
Evidence of Runbeck Systems, doing the job they were hired to do.
In Orlando,the harvesters went around a year before the election to help black voters request absentee ballots,then returned after the ABs were mailed out, to help them fill them out,collect them,AND they asked that voters NOT seal the envelopes. the Democrat political candidate that reported this said they would remove the ballot,and if not for their candidates,void it by filling in ovals for other candidates on the same race,or just throw out the entire ballot.
Jack Schmitt on Kudos to Jay Valentine, Mike Lindell and their ongoing successful effort to completely stop ballot harvesting by 2024.
How many of us have been screaming to the roof tops….fix 2020…..The RNC needs to be exposed especially to the boomer generation who reliably donate to the RNC……starve the swamp.
… I was wondering how some people could receive 6 ballots.
Yep. And they did not even have to be ailve to do so.
Saw a credible story about a woman who registered her cat. Cat got four mail-in ballots a few months ago via the USPS.
So.. after you harvest all the ballots next election.. So many ballots you know you’ll win hands down this time.. What is your excuse going to be when they simply delay counting and adjudicate all those ballots you harvested into votes for their side.. Just like they are doing right now in AZ.. Anyone.. Anyone…
I love that you guys think you’re doing something different this time. But chasing the dems methods is the same thing you did last time. It still won’t work this time.. unlike you guys they learned from their mistakes. If you don’t go back to paper ballots and hand counts you won’t win another election.. ever..
If you have not watched 2000 Mules, you need to!
It should be required every US citizen see what has happened to our elections with this detailed unequivable evidence of election fraud. You can watch it free from your local library.
Sundance this article brings a lot of clarity to the midterms – a huge “Thank You is in order. I assume this is why the administration refused to disclose details of their “all of government” approach to get out the vote. A couple of questions, though.
(1.) What if Susan Smith signs up for classes at the state community college and is automatically registered to vote. She then applies for food stamps. I assume she would automatically be registered again, but an edit in the programming would eliminate the duplicate registration. I wonder how sensitive that edit is. If she uses “Apt. 320” for the first registration and “#320 ” for the second, is that enough to kick out the second registration? The devil is in the details.
(2.) I understand that early and mail-in voters can track their ballots on-line to make sure that their vote was counted. If that is the case, their ballot has to somehow be tied to their email address which would make their identity known. Doesn’t that negate the principal of secret ballots? Someone has to know that John Q. Public cast his ballot and voted for Candidate X. If that is the case, can’t that help in determining if fraud existed? Hope that someone can offer some clarification because I have no experience with early and mail-in voting.
The ones checking on their votes cannot see what choices were selected, only that the record shows they submitted the ballot. I assume it would also show the ballot was accepted and wasn’t cancelled by an error. So I assume the linkage does not report the choices selected. Note that I do NOT assume their actual choices are not linked and tracked within the programming, only that the inquirer cannot see it.
Notice how in the states mentioned who have mass mail in balloting Republicans underperformed. This is inexcusable since some of those states have Republican legislatures. SCOTUS is supposed to rule soon to the effect that only state legislatures can make election law. Not SoS’s or county clerks and governors cannot veto which means that once this ruling comes down if Republican state legislatures don’t take action to halt mass mail in balloting they are derelict to their voters.
When soccer is the number one sport in America, that is the end. Just my opinion
That’s what is coming for Christmas you know
Ok, let us have the debate. Soccer is 22 guys running their guts out for 90 minutes. They are superb athletes and talented. On the other hand takes four hours to play four x 15 minute quarters and you are lucky if you get five minutes of play per quarter.
Far less skill, in my opinion and they actually get to use their hands.
This is exactly what we feel at our home. Our son has coached soccer before and he gotten us to watch the game, understand what is going on, and appreciate the skill set the players must have to compete. I have gotten quite fond of it. I have been a Dallas Cowboy fan for 60 plus years, but we get so tired of the commercials. I am looking forward to the World Cup although I wish it was in the summer at a better location. I refuse to let the left take all joy out of my life. I enjoy sports, especially college football and soccer. Great time of the year for my house!
Except that the US “mems” team have redesigned their world cup uniforms to the rainbow colors, instead of the good old red, white, and blue.
Sorry, but next to the human brain, the human hand is God’s most amazing creation. Any sport that essentially removes the hand from play (except for goalies and the occasional throw-in) is inherently inferior to any sport that uses this most magnificient tool, the hand. Soccer/futbol is popular because it is very simple to play (and hence people who do not speak the same language can play together), the rules are the same globally, and at its most elemental requires no equipment but a ball (it can be played in the street, in a field, while barefoot, etc.). It is to athletics what the 2:34, three chord pop song is to music.
By the way, this ballot harvesting, early voting et. al, needs to be stopped by Constitutional Amendment while enough Repub legislatures still exist to ratify it. Oh, but the R’s will never get enough votes again in Congress. Nevermind….
When you increasingly can not pronounce or spell you neighbors name…..
If CTH had a small part in helping people to reset their reference points around modern electioneering, well, that’s a good thing.
Sundance, you had a part that was equivalent to a political earthquake. Not small.
I am seeing the ballots versus votes discussion everywhere.
I expect CTH to be the site that leads to the granular strategy for where and how to take up this particular battle.
Yes, the day Sundance’s article appeared, Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, and Larry Kudlow recognized both the article as well as its well respected author. I regret it did not appear a week before the election.
CTH, and Jeff Childers’ “Coffee and Covid” Substack blog. The two go-to sources in our home.
The big cheat is in full force this election cycle and any thinking that people are voting for war, high gas prices that give demcrats and republicans a pay cut, infaltion pay cut, retirement fund cut, savings cut, and liberty cut are deluding themselves. Democrats are voting for republicans and the DNC knows that, but they are fighting or cheating as hard as they can because they know doomsday looms where all their electioneering and corruption awaits behind a bodyguard of lies that the Republican Judiciary wishes to expose with the whistle blowers ready.
I am tired, it has been a long fight. I have been boots on the ground since the early 80’s and the dike has erupted around me. I fought the good fight for integrity, for truth, for the American Way,,,,,and now,,,,,,God has taken His Hand off of us because we didn’t repent, as a country, of our sins, nay, we doubled and tripled down on them. There will be no Trump2024, there will be no more Republican party. We have lost our chance. BUT, if you are Jesus’ very own, as I am, He will keep you in the palm of His Hand, He will hold you up with His mighty Right Arm, He will give you strength to hold fast even unto death, where you, and I, will obtain the Crown of Life,,,,I will no longer ‘vote’, although my name might be on a ballot cast,,,,but I will remain in prayer
Wonderful! Thank
you
As pointed out by Sundance above:
” Yes, Arizona a state where “ballot harvesting” is illegal, but email, fax, online and in person drop-off is possible. Ballot assistance is essentially the same harvesting process but in a smaller and more individualized scale.”
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“The states then fight against anything, any effort, any process, that would purge voter rolls or fix incorrect voting rolls. ”
So the perfidy is within the state legislatures that give the appearance of writing reforms while inserting poison darts within the same legislation.
For example, Florida passed integrity reform but kept the Dominion machines. Georgia passed integrity reform but did not get rid of Dominion PLUS the legislation included a provision that original ballots were not required to be made available for audit and only the ballots recorded by the machines would be available; the ballot read by the machine makes a digital copy…and of course, we all know how easy it is for today’s software to modify digital pictures (think photoshop).
All of us need to look at whether our State constitutions and election laws actually protect election integrity or contain poison darts that get around what we “think” are firewalls to fraud and manipulation such as ballot harvesting.
Pre-election, groups of Arizona citizens posted themselves outside “drop boxes” and at least tried to film the various people dropping off votes, the obvious purpose being to identify individuals/vehicles making multiple drops. What were the results of the surveillance? How many ballots in unattended Drop Boxes in 2022 versus 2020 as a percentage of the total?
So in 2022, Arizona reportedly had massive numbers of votes dropped off, not at remote Drop Boxes, but at Polling Places on Election Day at polling places.
Were large numbers dropped at polling places by mules? Do the polling places, especially in Maricopa Co, have surveillance video of who dropped off ballots on Election Day or before? Do those who drop off ballots on Election Day have to check in the ballots and identify themselves, or just dump and run? The Dems will always morph their tactics to cheat, so they likely transitione to other forms of submitting the ballots. But it seems that there should be ways to catch them cheating. Emails, faxes, etc come from some address or phone number.
Kari Lake needs to file suits demanding all video and records showing how ballots were turned in, and by whom, with protection orders on the data NOW. This election is going to come down to proving ballot harvesting and/or insider adjudication.
Oklahoma the last year or so has been changing ID and drivers license renewal, time and how it is done. Titles for vehicles is now changed, any dealings with state has become a quagmire and I suspect our elections will now become democrat wins only.
We see all these legal drugs now pot, Colorado mushrooms, it’s not from votes it’s a soothing while the shackles are installed on our wrists. Guns will go, freedoms will pass one by one.
There is no fair elections. If there were the courts would not mind taking up these issues. Underneath all of these elections is a river of corruption and fraud so deep and wide it would drown our nation, and is.
I’m in Colorado. My son was asked 3 or 4 times during the process of getting his driver’s license at 16 if he wanted to register to vote. He kept saying, “But I’m only 16.”
Meanwhile, I discovered our county voter statistics page said there were several hundred 14-year-olds registered last spring. When I questioned this at a school board meeting, suddenly the next week there were no 14-year-olds registered, but a lot more 16-year-olds.
That might be the most depressing article I have read on the CTH.
I see all the fraud “conservative” pundits have been focused on fart jokes and Wakanda movie review since the election (seriously) to distract GOP voters from the profane level of Republican betrayal that has taken place. And of course blaming Trump for everything. A big problem our side has is that so many get their news/commentary from these controlled opposition frauds.
Yes. We are in rarified air here reading CTH.
The unvarnished truth is not always easy to swallow but it makes you stronger and mentally more fit; able to recognize better solutions and the need to persevere even if it takes awhile longer than we’d like.
I hope someone can help me….I’m giving myself a headache trying to figure this out.
I get the basics on this ballots vs votes and ballot harvesting.
I cannot find an explanation of how the ballots, which were created for people who have no idea they are registered, are actually picked up and used for dem candidates.
People who don’t check the box to be registered still have their data sent to the SoS and placed on the voter roll.
When ballots are mailed out, aren’t they sent to the address the person provided….even when they have no idea a ballot is coming, it still goes to their home?
How is that ballot then ‘harvested’ and used?
Won’t the person just throw away the ballot they never requested and weren’t expecting?
Also, what if the person goes ahead and uses that ballot even when they weren’t expecting it and didn’t know they were registered?
How does that help dems cheat?
I did read a comment that sort of gave me an explanation, but I’m still confused.
The comment said that after the polls close poll workers check to find all the people who were mailed a ballot, but never returned it, then create a ballot for that person.
Would there really be enough ballots that way to change the outcome?
P.S. I also understand that through adjudication, a rep vote can be switched to a dem vote.
I know the dems cheated and that the GOPe knows this and does nothing…even helps them.
Thanks in advance for helping me understand all this.
Short answer: ballot mules pick up ballots at non-profit organizations created for this purpose (what makes you think the given addresses are real, or that ballots always get delivered to the listed address?), and stuff them in ballot boxes. (Yes, far more than enough to change the outcome.)
Long answer: watch 2000 Mules.
Thank you for replying.
Sundance explained how information was being sent to the SoS and the person added to the voter roll based on getting a DL, filling out a change of address card, signing up for state programs.
When the person fills out the form, would they not use their correct information?
I’m really trying to understand this so that I can explain it to people who don’t know this is going on.
Ok. So…is it that people who fill out a form and don’t check the box attesting they are eligible to vote and want to be registered are kept separate from the people who do check the box and want to be registered?
Is this how the SoS knows which ballots to send to actual voters and which ballots to send to npos for harvesting?
Does the SoS keep track of which names on the voter rolls are legitimate voters and which names were added without the person’s knowledge?
I’m sure it’s something simple to understand, but my brain is just not making the right connections.
Well…anyway…I really appreciate you trying to help.
“Would they not use their correct information?” Maybe. What you find when you look into it is there are a thousand flavors of cheating. My next-door neighbor received a ballot for somebody she’s never heard of. If someone changed my address but kept my name, in the state I grew up in, I would never know; I haven’t lived there for decades. Or if they took my name and slightly misspelled it, and then changed the address, I would never even think to look for the misspelling. Here’s what could be done if the situation were right: if I were trying to inflate the voter rolls and had a real guy in front of me, Josh Aldridge, I would put him in right, and would quickly add a few more registrations for Josh Eldridge, Josh Albridge, and Joe Aldridge, give them random ages and Democrat affiliations, and list their addresses at the vacant lot next to one of these nonprofits.
People who don’t check the box attesting they are eligible to vote – oops! Sorry. Must have hit the wrong key. I just accidentally checked that box, for all of them, when I input the information! (Somehow in my county all the 16-year-olds are listed as active voters, and as far as I can tell, ballots were mailed out for them!)
I’m not sure all the ways they know to send ballots for harvesting, but if you’re 16, you’re not expecting a ballot. So I can right away send your ballot for harvesting, because you won’t notice. Also all the dead and out-of-state people. Also all the people who hardly ever vote. (If they do show up to vote, then they’re told they already voted and will have to fill out a provisional ballot, which doesn’t have to ever get looked at, if the election is within a certain spread.)
Does the SOS keep track of legitimate names? Well, that would be a question for the SOS, seeing as how admitting to keeping separate lists would be admitting to knowing one of the lists isn’t legitimate!
I would be happy to answer other questions, but you should also look into the real experts. Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, Seth Keshel, Mike Lindell, Shawn Smith, Bobby Piton, and others have been explaining how these things work for two years now – you might try following them to learn more.
Thank you!!!
That really helped!
I was looking at it too narrowly. Also looking at it as an electronic transfer of information – system to system.
Not seeing that human interception and alteration of the data.
Feel a little silly, now…but my brain was just not catching it.
Truly devious, unscrupulous actions by people always surprise me.
My mind just doesn’t work that way. Is that naive, simple, unaware, oblivious? I don’t know.
I do know that that there is a lot of bad in this world that I can’t contemplate.
I will check out the people you listed.
Again, thank you very much!
Since they know how many ballots have been mailed, it forms the baseline for how many they need to forge.
You don’t even need to send in those particular ballots, just need to know how many they have to work with.
Thanks for the reply.
All the ballots have to match up to a registered voter, right?
That’s the reason for registering people without their knowledge…so those ballots can be used for the dem candidate, is that right?
Do poll workers just wait until voting ends on election day and then create fraudulent ballots for the people on their list who didn’t vote?
I want to be able to explain how it works to other people.
It’s just not clicking in my brain, it’s very frustrating.
To answer these questions,
The reason for matching them to a registered voter is so if we find all the totally fake ballots, these ones will be harder to find because they are matched to a real person. See, the fraud is at many different levels, so if one gets discovered, you double down on another.
It doesn’t have to be for the Democrat candidate, but rather whoever is paying to win the race! Have you noticed how few Republicans at high levels want to investigate the fraud? They’re very quiet!
It’s probably not mostly the poll workers. Again, many ways to do this. The Motor Vehicle Department registers 16-year-olds. But also the county clerk could pay the county coroner to not take dead people off the official lists. I’m sure what you say could be done by a poll worker on Election Day, but most of this is done before, after, and around Election Day, and in a variety of offices, so the poll workers could be completely clueless that this is happening.
I don’t know of any high level republicans who want this investigated.
Makes me think of that quote about the devil and his greatest trick….convincing the world he doesn’t exist.
Politicians have done the same with election fraud.
So there are several opportunities for a single voter ….to register to vote…more than one time. If the “system” is not weeding out non citizens, it stands to reason it would not weed out a voter who registered more than once. That would explain a voter getting more than one ballot. This has got to be challenged in all these states …in court. This goes against the Rights of a citizen’s vote to count. Especially if illegals are voting and voters are voting more than once. DISENFRANCHISEMENT.
US is laughing stock of the world right now.
Champions of free, open elections can’t get it done in its own Country?
Another policy contradiction.
So it appears that candidate Joe Biden did not misspeak when he said, “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.” He knew, the media covered for it and the GOPe ignored it.
Wouldn’t it be great if this short segment played on TV, on You Tube-everywhere you looked everytime you looked, telling the world how evil Joe biden really is!
This is my first post in any online forum, and do it here only because your content and readership are critical to saving the Republic.
Everything about ballots vs votes is correct in this article.
What is incorrect are the comments regarding the posture of the RNC.
I am one of the 168 members on the RNC. OVER 70% of RNC membership is NEW since the spring of 2016 when Trump became the front runner. There no more than perhaps 10 Never Trumpers remaining on the RNC, the committee is very MAGA/America First. Harmeet Dhillon is on the RNC, David Bossie is on the RNC, Tyler Bowler, the 30YO Executive Director of TPUSA is on the RNC. Many current State Party Chairs, were Co Chairs of Trumps previous Campaign organizations (State Chairs are automatic members if the RNC.) Last year the RNC pulled out of the Presidential Debates, and censured Cheney and Kinzinger-things that never would have happened 6 years ago. The RNC is on the side of an expanded party that represents the working class, fights big tech and corporations. Any statement to the contrary is misinformed.
In California 2018 we lost Orange County to Ballot Harvesteing, and in 2020 we won many of the same seats back because we were better at ballot harvesting than the Dems-check the media and you will see the Dems complaining about how well we used the rules.
The RNC,by consent decree was out of the election day security/ballot security battle for 38 year. In the 2022 election cycle RNC was involved in 75 Election Integrity lawsuits with huge winning success, had 17 State Directors of Election Integrity and recruited over 75,000 Poll workers and watchers. Harmeet Dhillon has been key in RNC Election Legal strategy-she has been in AZ with a team for the entire count. It takes a while to catch up to a 38 year head start.
The basic premise on votes vs ballots is corrrect, and clean voter roles are the most critical step in moving forward. The RNC spent more than 60 million on these problems/solutions in the last few years. Unfortunately Dem Sec of State violate the NVRA willfully by not making “a good faith effort” to update the voter file. They are willing to lose the case in a friendly court that delays the case until the election is over. A huge challenge of course is elections are run by the states, Florida v Cali or Az for example, and the strategy is different everywhere. in Fla for example your readers are familiar with the seachange in voter Registration with R now ahead of D. whar they are not familiar with is the fact that RNC has had dozens of paid staffers in FLA focused soley on voter registration.
Keep up the good work.
I keep thinking patriots need to sign a petition or start a class action lawsuit to force states to clean up their voting roles and to go back to having votes only counted on Election Day. If Florida and Texas can do it, other states can. Scott Pressler deserves a lot of credit for getting people to register, especially in Florida. There are many small patriotic organizations doing good work, such as Moms for Liberty, and others. We all need to get together somehow to figure out what to do about the election fraud. If we don’t, our country is lost.
Thank you for posting this. It is very important information that I was not aware of and I bet a lot of others were not, either.
Thank you for being in the middle/in the lead of the struggle to regain some measure of integrity in our election system/country.
I appreciate the insights you are providing.
Are there any reports of a RNC rebuke or censor of Mitch McConnell for sending money to Murkowski to go against the Republican supported candidate in Alaska?
Money that could have gone to support the desired candidate in Alaska or the Republican Senator candidate in Arizona.
Has there been an overall accounting of the money donated to the RNC to investigate the 2020 steal?
On what level does the current RNC understand the Republican base view that McCarthy is much more likely to duplicate the actions/inactions of Paul Ryan rather than take the necessary actions to begin dismantling the deep state.
Thank you again for your insights and please continue posting.
Since it was my first post I will try to answer a couple comments. This site is important because the participants read and respond thoughtfully.
gleeny- the difficulty is that state legislators write the bill and their Governor signs them into law. There is very little external recourse after that, and of course Republicans believe in the 10th amendment….. For example in Nevada the Dem controlled legislature literally held a midnight session to pass a bill that had not been seen by the public, SOS, or Republican legislators that enshrined ballot harvesting and mailing live ballots to every voter whether requested or not. We sued in a variety of ways on that and lost in Fed Court. Covid you know. We have sued or contested voter roles in most states. In Michigan the Soros acolyte SOS Benson just lost a motion to dismiss a lawsuit suing her to remove known dead voters. Imagine, in court she was defending keeping dead voters on the rolls.
Lone Wattie. On the committee I would say fewer than 10 that would argue McConnell should stay on in leadership. So, a resolution against his actions in Alaska is certainly something to consider. I was personally on the phone yesterday with the COS of 4 Senators pushing for a delay in voting trying to find out how we can help. (WTF Cotton coming out for McConell) Time for the next generation -take your pick Hawley, Cruz, Rubio, Lee, Paul, etc -to move into leadership. Ron Johnson is a hero.
Thanks for bringing up the “2020 steal fundraising”. This will be news to all of you as “our side” is into misinformation as well-numbers are approx. The RNC and Trump Campaign/Save America Pac (Trump) had a joint fundraising committee after the 2020 election. The JFC funds were allocated 75% to Trump, 25% to RNC. Approx 200million raised. RNC spent every penny of our 50million on lawsuits and direct post election challenges. Trump spent about 6 of his approx 150 million on a recount in Wisconsin……Not what the websites pushing “RNC/Rinos are part of the deep state” want to hear.
The RNC membership understands how the base feel about McCarthy. Most of us feel he would not be as bad as Ryan, but not as good as Mark Meadows would have been for example. He will be challenged, but will likely win. The key point from the RNC side is that our fight is to have the Republican Caucus control the speakership vote, but not who the R speaker is, none or the RNC 168 have votes in that election. When Ryan was speaker and held up the MAGA agenda we were absolutely,literally, powerless. He had his own money and was elected by his own constituents (it happens that 2 RNC members lived in his district, so thats how much power we actually had) and then by the Republian Caucus into leadership. It is SOOOOO frustratiing how hard it is to get the next generation into leadership because so many of the new people owe their victory to the Caucus leaders prodigious fundraising. Hopefully the R Caucus will resume the previous rules of regular order suspended by Pelosi(it led to getting rid of Boehner). As frustrating as it is for us, look at the Dems-their lHouse leadership is all 80yo.
LearningAsIGo I am not an expert on the voting machine portion, but I do know there is smoke……This is another state issue unfortunately. In any one state different machines or none at all may be used based on jurisdiction. States also have different voting jurisdictions. In Fla it is the counties that are responsible, and in other states it is the village, city or township. So Fla can start counting early because they have only 67 locations-watchers and workers can make sure it is fair. In other states they might have >2000 jurisdictions, so Repubs dont want counting to start early because it is impossible to monitor. Places like California,Nevada and Arizona are simply insane. Especially Az where Rs have had a say.
Follows is the link to the RNC special committee report on Election Integrity after the 2020 election. Voting machine issue is addressed. Committee Chair is the FLA party chair, a state senator, and was twice Trumps Fla Co-Chair-you know, just another RNC Rino.
https://prod-media-assets.protectthevote.com/media/document/news/Full_Committee_Report_FINAL_for_Distro_w_C_Letter_1633100320_paltkn47.pdf
I know much of this info is a revelation compared to what you read on the internet. Bashing the RNC with misinformation is a very profitable business for many websites.
Thank you for posting; this is very encouraging. Now would you please look into the part of election fraud that happens with the voting machines; it works hand-in-glove with the extra ballots. The extra ballots make the race look close, then they can run the algorithm to add votes electronically without being obvious.
While I agree with much of your post, until we get rid of the scum RINOs: McConnell, McCarthy, Romney, Murkowsky, et. al., our CONgress will NOT fight for the U.S. Constitution or the American people.
Ballot submission assistance was the exact problem progressives saw in the post-civil war period.
Their solution was to adopt the “Australian ballot”, where the govt would control all ballots which would only be distributed to actual voters in secret. Most poli sci authors writing about this history fail to consider the integrity issue, rather they are more concerned with how govt-controlled ballots affected parties.
Nevada is so corrupt that I fully expect that they will have a Ballot Initiative that asks if we should amend the Nevada Constitution to allow “Ballot Submission Assistance” because some people need help voting. Anytime they want to do something awful they just put it to a vote and the people vote it in. That way the majority gets to decide what’s for dinner (1 sheep, 2 wolves). Also, the legislature does not dirty their hands passing garbage laws. We just add it to our Constitution which would take another vote to repeal it. Not likely.
Truly, it takes moral people to keep this form of government alive. It take immoral people to destroy it.
Why is Sundance not the US president?
Since I have been inside many campaigns, please allow me to describe how ballot assistance works. You hire young folks who can speak many languages. Typically, we found these folks by running ads in college newspapers. It gives them experience working on a campaign. You have to fly them in, pay them, feed them, and put them up in a hotel for months. That takes a lot of money.
Do conservatives have a large group of presumed voters to lazy to vote? Libs basically have every college aged kid from 18-25 that they can send a ballot to, not sure repubs have anything like that.
“If you were going to hire a printing company to send out fancy wedding invitations, you would need to provide that third-party with the names, addresses and details of the invitation recipients, right? ”
Pray tell, once the ballots are printed, where do they go? If the person requested a mail-in ballot, then presumably the ballot and an envelope are mailed to the person. But if the individual did not request a mail-in ballot, then what happens to the ballots (and envelopes)? Are the ballots printed with the Democrat candidates pre-marked and then trucked to one of the non-profits for 200000 Mules to distribute to collection boxes in the dark of night? Or are the pre-marked ballots and envelopes trucked directly to the county vote counting facility? If the ballots do not get mailed to the individual, then are the pre-marked ballots in envelopes with a date and signature printed by the printing company? What are the ways to detect this scam, short of an audit that the state is not going to allow?
The underlying problem is too many of the Republican leadership are content with being the loyal opposition, Just think you get all the perks of office including the under the table ones and never have to do anything but oppose the democrats then cave at the last moment so the dems pass whatever they want. You never have to come up with a workable alternative and fight to get it enacted. That is the problem with Mitchy Mouse in the Senate and his counterpart in the house. That’s why they hated Trump so he actually expected them to work and do their jobs. Until there is a leadership change in the republican party the Republicans will always fade at the last minute so the democrats pull their fat out of the fire at the last minute.
I voted in person on election day. I really like to think my vote counted. Yet, I really don’t know if it did. Word is there was once again more voting oddities coming out of Washoe and Clark Counties here in Nevada. Our beloved and all knowing governor got bounced out but somehow our equally all caring senator managed to find extra votes. So who really knows anything?
Reading articles like this …
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/arizona-data-17-maricopa-election-day-voters-democrat-23-primary-election-day-voters-democrat-democrats-winning-50-election-day-totals-impossible/
ARIZONA DATA: Only 17% of Maricopa Election Day Voters Were Democrat, Only 23% of Primary Election Day Voters Were Democrat — But Democrats Are Winning 50% of Delayed Election Day Totals? IMPOSSIBLE!
… I don’t understand why Arizonians haven’t already taken to the streets with guns? Face it … that’s what’s it going to take to stop this, people. And if we don’t, then we might as well resign ourselves to pretty soon living in a dictatorship that’s no better than Communist China.
Recognize these words? “…and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.” Your answer.
Sundance, I understand what you are saying, and thank you for it! But still don’t see how the printing, mailing of ballots only can be legal once ‘connected’ to a vote–meaning someone has ‘said’ by delivery of completed ballot that it is. Example is the small town in Colorado where there were(ex) 700 people eligible to vote and count was 1200 ballots!? All I can figure is you’re saying if dems can make a list, print and mail, and get ballots counted -that’s it-they qualify? That IS what I think happened, but if so–there can be be absolutely NO morality in anyone who would think that way! What am I missing?
All public employees should be banned from voter registration.activities.
It is, at best, sa conflict of interest to sign up more people to support your mission.