Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has come under fire for his transfer of illegal aliens from Texas to Massachusetts, Martha’s Vineyard. The Lawfare operatives within the leftist open-border community appear to be targeting DeSantis over technical elements in the Florida law he used to transfer 50 alien arrivals.
The legal maneuver being deployed to target the Florida governor, seems centered around his authority being limited to the movement of aliens who traveled to, or were residing in, Florida at the time of their transfer – as constructed in the Florida law used to authorize the use of taxpayer funding for his action. {LINK} As the argument is made, if the aliens were never actually in Florida, their legal transport would not be covered by the FL legislative authority that provided for their removal.
Today, during a press conference to announce state sales tax relief, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis fired back at those who are targeting him. WATCH:
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The transport of the alien arrivals to Martha’s Vineyard was a great way to bring attention to the national border crisis.
Credit where credit is due
Trump 2024
And if DeSantis runs against Trump in 2024 he’s dead to me.
That being said… this stunt was absolutely hilarious
Ron DeSantis has almost singlehandedly made laughing stocks of the entire New England rich, entitled hypocritical, virtue signalling Democrat voting over-educated, superior Nag class on the illegal immigration issue………………… by letting them make his point for him…… Bravo…… Absolutely genius.
Babylon Bee Headline says Martha’s Vineyard exacted revenge by sending a bus load of Karens to Tallahassee. Great satire.
https://babylonbee.com/news/marthas-vineyard-begins-building-planned-parenthood-to-combat-rising-population-of-minorities
That’s funny!
Agree, however not a novel idea…let’s give credit to Governor Abbott for this brilliant idea. Truly disgusting everything this OBiden Administration
is doing to the United States.
Well if Abbott raised a militia to repel an invasion, like it states in The Texas National Constitution, maybe Florida wouldn’t be 930 overdose deaths behind Commiefornia for fiscal year 2021.
Well, if we’re giving credit we probably have to start with Fidel Castro and his Freedom Flotilla.
Ron DeSantis said those people were so happy to be in Martha’s Vineyard. Too bad they were deported the next day.
So, DeSantis is dead to you if he runs against Trump?
What a ridiculous and nonsensical comment.
Not nonsensical in the least.
Do you even read this blog?
MAGA was brought back BY DONALD J TRUMP.
DONALD J TRUMP faced an onslaught that would make most NORMAL PEOPLE RUN AND CRY BEGGING FOR MERCY.
DESANTIS HAS NOT YET EVEN FACED 0.0000001% OF WHAT TRUMP FACED, WE KNOW HOW DONALD J. TRUMP WILL ACT WHEN FACED BY THE STORM.
DONALD J TRUMP’S WHOLE FAMILY WAS ATTACKED, NOT JUST WITH INSULTS BUT DEATH THREATS ON A DAILY BASIS.
DONALD J TRUMP IS WHAT BROUGHT 95% OF US TO THE TREEHOUSE.
DONALD J TRUMP WAS ROBBED ON NOV 3rd 2020 – IF HE IS ROBBED IN 2024, ESPECIALLY BY THE REPUBLICANS ARE ENDORSING THE LIE THE GREAT STEAL NEVER HAPPENED.
DONALD J TRUMP IS OUR AVATAR AND MIDDLE FINGER TO THE SYSTEM, AND HIS MISSION HAS NOT BEEN FINISHED.
THE CHOICE IS A REAGAN CONSERVATIVE (TRUMP) or a GEORGE H.W BUSH right before he claims “READ MY LIPS NO NEW TAXES.”
He (Trump) is still MY PRESIDENT. the dipship in office is not and never would be.
I’ve always wondered, how do crazy people choose which words should scream in all caps and which don’t meet the all caps threshold of importance?
Wouldn’t you scream when people are trying to justify a theft. Now imagine a Great Steal.
Do you just take it? And walk away “graceful”?
I had a friend who is a Liberal and berated President Trump for not being with Biden at the Inauguration, saying it was “Classless”.
I replied, “If a Mugger robbed you and won some Award would you stand next to him and congratulate him”?
DeSantis becoming the 2024 GOP Nominee is congratulating a Theft, by whitewashing the victims.. us and our Avatar, Donald Trump.
If it’s crazy to SCREAM trying to stop actions that justify the Great Steal… I’m ok with people thinking I’m crazy.
Here, here; I’m with you, 100%! 🙂
I appreciate that!
But, we’re all here together! And we need to stay standing together. Because, we are all that stand before a great darkness that the Progressives/Demoncrats want to bring about.
What you said makes me think of this.
Do you know what’s really crazy?
The volume of trolls that appear magically, out of thin air, when there is a discussion about RDS.
Yep. It is so predictable.
Well said.
Trump has not been co-opted by the GOPe; DeSantis has.
Before Donald Trump announced in 2015, I support Ted Cruz, because I thought he stood on principle.
Then the GOP Debates happened and I saw that Donald Trump at every instant stood firm on his Principles and never wavered. But for Ted Cruz, at the GOP Convention the whole world saw that Cruz only stood on Principle if there as opportunity for him, and only him.
Right now DeSantis at any instant can tell the world that he has “No instrest in the 2024 GOP Nomination” and that would end any doubt. But he hasn’t.
He has agency, not the GOPe in this instant. With an Interview or a Press Conference he can say, “Stop trying to turn this into a match up. I support Donald Trump for the Presidency that was stolen from him!”
Or as Gen. Sherman said when asked to run for the Presidency after the Civil War, “If nominated, I will not run. If elected I will not serve.”
We haven’t heard that from DeSantis… and sadly that’s by his choice alone.
LOL…… you think the CANADIAN posing as an American playing a US Senator with illegal aspirations of being POTUS was a “principled man”…in whose world?
Where were you in 2015 before Pres. Trump announced?
At the time in 2015, Cruz was the favorite. Then President Trump showed up and exposed Cruz.
I have ALWAYS been against Cruz…he is INELIGIBLE……I knew he was not NBC but from my research found he is not even a US citizen as BOTH parents were Canadian citizens at the time of his birth IN Canada in Oct 1971
BTW I wrote CANADIAN Cruz an email to his campaign when he announced pointing out that he KNEW he was not constitutionally eligible to serve as POTUS…..THAT is where I was SON
If your thoughts can’t
be understood without yelling,
perhaps they are not compelling.
CTH is a conversation
not an amplifier.
Please stop yelling.
Got it… we should accept the Great Steal with grace and decorum as we are lead to a European War and Economic Ruin!
He is to me also…
…. And I have the receipts.
I will destroy DeSantis if he runs against Trump in 2024.
Straight up!
I have to stop drill my cheeks in that my smile is as wide.
Do you need me on your left or right flank?
We need a Trump Flynn ticket in 2024
My top choices for Trump’s VP are Rand Paul or Tulsi Gabbard, with Tucker Carlson, Matt Gaetz, and Thomas Massie being the B-list picks.
Mike Pompeo
Hell no.
H311 No.
Never.
Pompeo is the devil incarnate. So, and pun intended, hell no.
Pompeo is a Pence pick.
Absolutely NOT!
Massie wore a purple tie on Tucker the other night..
H311 No.
To which ones?
Tulsi Gabbard is a radical leftist , she is faking her moderate stance . Don’t be fooled by Tulsi Gabbard.
She’s against the Deep State and would be instrumental in expanding MAGA’s scope.
At this point, we could use help from populists from the other side of the spectrum.
Tulsi Gabbard is a WEF Young Leader. Still interested?
You don’t think she’s defected?
Not at all. Defected to where? She should at least have converted to a Republican so as to provide one more vote in Congress to support President Trump. But she didn’t.
Now check her Congressional voting record. She was the 4th most absent in votes compared to all Representatives. Gabbard missed 36.0% of votes (343 of 954 votes) in the 116th Congress. That’s ridiculous, inexcusable, and that’s political cowardice. She didn’t want to go on record voting against or for bills she knew were inconsistent with her façade of being a political moderate. No Democrat can claim “moderation” given what that party stands for and advocates.
She voted with Democrats to terminate President Trump’s declaration of an emergency at the U.S.-Mexican border (2/25/2019)
She ducked and ran for cover (did not vote) on this key anti-corruption measure:
House Bill 4817 – Expand restrictions on online campaign ads, regulate foreign involvement in elections. The bill aimed to expand federal regulations and restrictions on online political communications, mandate that social media companies keep detailed records on individuals and organizations sponsoring political ads, require political campaigns to report offers of foreign assistance, prohibit foreign nationals from contributing to ballot initiative and referendum campaigns, increase restrictions on U.S. political campaigns soliciting support from foreign entities, and make it a federal crime to mislead voters about the time and place for voting and qualifications to vote.
To her credit – Gabbard voted against re-authorization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and against both attempts to Sham-peach President Trump.
Nope.
We know Tulsi Gabbard is a WEFer Young Gl0obalist Leader, like Ivanka Trump.
Personally, I’d like Trump to find another highly internationally experienced business person. Its the business acumen that makes the difference at this point in time.
You know, Ivanka is a wealthy woman. If she attended WEF it was probably not to become a true believer but for social connections.
Ivanka does not need corporate or globalist help.
Hell no to Ivanka as long as she remains married to Jared. He’s a bad influence on her and was a bad influence on her father’s administration as well.
If Trump picks a Washington politician, he will have to go with someone who has been loyal to him throughout the Jan 6 bs and the impeachments, and Mar a Lago raid hoax. He knows enough now to decide on his own and will not need the help of the turtle class.
where is this love affair for Gabbard coming from of late?…are people so willfully blind now?….she is a dyed-in-the-wool MARXIST with a few palatable policies some can swallow
From Conservative Inc promoting her…including Fox and Tucker.
For all of Trump’s massive influence within the conservative fold, neither he nor his important contingent of followers can control the Republican Party ultimately. We can put up a spirited fight concerning who the nominee for the presidency will be, and we might even win, which is the goal we all so earnestly yearn for.
However, the Republican Party extends far and wide into many sectors of American cultural and financial life. We are but one of many powerful coalitions of stakeholders. We believe our stake is the most vital, and we will fight to prevail over other coalitions. But we cannot control matters beyond that point.
What I do know for certain, is that even if a big-government coalition wins the day within the Republican Party, I will stand foursquare with them against the radical Marxist Democrat Party, even if the former’s posture is more pretense than conviction.
In my opinion, there are only two forces that could overcome radical Marxist socialism: (1) President Trump and his MAGA agenda (the surest and quickest way!), and (2) the combined forces of the business sector joining together, including its bought and paid-for lobbyists and Club for Growth, Chamber of Commerce contingents.
That is what I deeply believe!
A splintered, fractious opposition to radical Marxist socialism will only assure the latter’s definitive ascent to power. No matter who the Republican Party nominates for the presidency in 2024, the ideological divide will be as vast as the universe. That choice should not be difficult.
That would be GREAT! 🙂
I’m not so sure of Flynn. I’m reminded of John McEnroe and his tennis doubles partner when asked who was the greatest doubles team in history, and the answer was John McEnroe and whoever he was playing with. Same goes for PDJT. and whoever he picks as his VP.
Don’t wait until he announces. Destroy him now.
Sundance, if everything you say about DeSantis is correct (and you make a good case), would you rather see him destroyed and have a greater risk of losing against a Governor Gavin Newsome or other Dem candidate? I can’t see how destroying a Governor currently seen as the best the MAGA Republicans currently have would help Trump win the general election, just the primary.
Gavin Newsom only survived a Recall due to the Pandemic. Grey Davis in 2003 was recalled for far less incompetence, but Covid fears and a mass migration kept Newsom from being Recalled.
Also, all of his GOP Opponents were at best mildly Conservative or painted themselves as moderates. Or self immolated by trying to distance themselves from the most popular figure in their base, Pres. Trump.
Gavin Newsom is not unstoppable or unbeatable.
CHEATING is how Gavin “wins”, just like Delusional Joe.
In many ways Newsom is alot worse that Brandon.
Brandon is a cheat, liar, braggart, and bully. But not once is there evidence he cheated on his wives.
Newsome cheated on his wife with his BEST FRIEND’S wife. That Best Friend was a Campaign Manager. Also Newsome was literally part of the 1% the Democrats so hate from Birth.
Gavin Newsom survived recall because we have mail in voting and a dem controlled state.
I firmly believe that the Democrat hold is only because the CA GOP has consistently decided to run as moderate Democrats most of the time. It also doesn’t help that the best the GOP could throw at him were milquetoast at best.
Also it didn’t help that when Larry Elders who had a shot at winning decided to not bring in Donald Trump to campaign for him.
LOL…..Newsome, Nanzi’s evil little nephew survived due to DOMINION….there is NO way that was a legitimate count for recall in CA
Agreed, but it also a little thing called “Covid” that made people kind of crazy and ignore the tell tale signs.
Also, Larry Elders didn’t help matter… you know the guy who ran against Newsom in the Recall.
LA that hell hole of liberal policies was heavily AGAINST the little commie before the recall vote yet he got a 63% approval…..yeah right I believe that one
I don’t believe it either, but it didn’t help that Newsome’s opponent, Elders never asked for Pres. Trump to campaign for him. And that fact was used against him.
The thing about the “Great Cheat”, it makes every Democrat victory questionable now… especially in California.
Mostly Right, DeSantis is not a MAGA Governor. Before August 8, maybe.
But not now.
Oh I think he’ll be a MAGA governor as much as they let him, just to siphon off Trump votes for 2024. He really has no choice.
So I support him for governor right now, but not for any other office. Unless he returns his donor money, which we know he will not.
If he returns the money he’d gain massively in popularity. Can you imagine the headlines of him giving the finger to “the swamp” to “fight for the people” or whatever sound bites his speech writers came up with for clicks? He’d have a shot at being Trump.
Good thing his greed is winning.
We need a MAGA bench and I am hopeful DeSantis will learn about the RINOS and evil Repubs in FL (Little Marco and Voldemort) and discard the billionaire bunch and their attendant political hacks. There is still time and he is educable. IMO there are few modest income patriots who could raise campaign bucks to run, let alone win. We need to figure out how to politically educate DeSantis now for a POTUS run AFTER 2024. We, in the Sunshine State need to identify and grow FL’s MAGA bench for the next Governor after DeSantis’ second term. (Crist is pathetically attempting to shore up his “family” image with a fourth, 4th, yes, count ‘em, 1, 2, 3, 4th engagement to be married.) Some MAGA supporters gloss over the failed marriages of candidates who have failed several times as if that does not require deeper examination. Like it or not, that (and his crude tweets) is one reason many are still looking for another candidate. They refuse to see the very obvious excellent, far reaching good acts of DJT while POTUS ( stopped TOP, renegotiated NAFTA, tariffs protecting US Main Street, energy independence, secure border, etc.). And, they are not as forgiving as CTH followers who believe in redemption. There is still time. BTW, Casey’s breast cancer came after she was jabbed. Wondering how they are evaluating those very temporal events.
A voice of reason. :))
currently seen by the “media”
Ron has a choice. It is his choice to make, sort of, depending on what the people who own him tell him to do. If his selection is to try to stop DJT from winning the presidency for a third time then I consider that a direct attack on MAGA, US Sovereignty, Pro American economics, and President Trump.
Ron is the one who will be making the choice of being “destroyed” not Sundance. One does not get to be a traitor to MAGA and also be allowed to have a political future in the Ultra MAGA republican party. Traitor or Ally. That is Ron’s choice to make.
I’m with you. The RNC and Mitch support Ron. Therefore, he’s a snake in the grass.
I am still “wrapped around the axle” about the machines. And Laurel Lee getting the nomination for the 15th District when Loomer and Sabitini got the GOP boot.
Very sad that Sabatini lost his primary.
But wouldn’t it be helpful to President Trump to run in 2024 as the Republican nominee after having soundly beaten a strong field of the rest of the best?
Let’s go further. He’s dead to me in 2028 as well because he’s bought and paid for by people who have zero interest in MAGA or restoring the middle class.
Excellent point, but let’s think outside our normalcy paradigms about the massive economic freefall we, the whole world, is about to endure.
New persons may appear during such a crisis that we will decide are best qualified to lead us through a restoration.
Current faces are likely to display every reason they should be kept from office.
2028 is so far into the future when in 6-8 months we may be looking for food to feed our families.
There is a rhyme and a reason why it had to be this way. The military could have just rounded them all up in one fell swoop, but policing our homeland and rooting out corruption isn’t exactly in their job description. It’s ours.
A government of the people, by the people, for the people. They’re not our leaders, they are our employees! We never granted them permission to do whatever they want with our money, our land, and our resources.
All the power, authority… and honor of preserving this Constitutional Republic was bestowed upon us by the Lord God Almighty himself.
Trump , and the existential threat he posed to their NWO “Democracy” and forced them out of the shadows. For the first time in history their armies and the weapons they deploy in their hatred for mankind, was out in the open for the whole world to see..
There they are, restoring the power to We The People has to start at the local level. DeSantis is showing how to restore our power at the state level. We’ve already seen how to restore our Judicial branch.
I don’t see DeSantis going anywhere until he’s done with where he at, and I anticipate the key to restoring our legislative branch will be in full swing after we dispose with a significant portion of the treacchery on Nov 8th.
It’s not realistic to think we can address all the trash in one fell swoop, so we will still have some significant work ahead of us to see it all the way through to the end.
God speed, and God bless to all
Thank you.
I almost hope he does run against Trump at this point. It will clarify things and make it easier to beat him in 2028 (with an ACTUAL MAGA candidate like Lake).
DeSantis supporters and their betrayal of Trump have pissed me off so much I don’t think I can ever bring myself to vote DeSantis at this point. DeSantis supporters have spent the last year/s attacking Trump AND Trump supporters like me with lies and rewriting history. They’ve basically been as deceptive and as manipulative libs. And frankly they’ve been more annoying about it.
I swear, the last year or so it’s like everyone in “conservative media” has turned on Trump and joined the obviously coordinated effort to attack Trump and push DeSantis onto his base. I now trust conservative media as much as I trust lib/mainstream media… meaning I don’t!
Just another sad reality to the dystopian nightmare we’ve been thrust into over the last few years. Incredibly frustrating time. Having to deal with libs and establishment attacking us constantly and now conservatives all start thrusting the knives in our backs, calling us Trump cultists (just like libs), lying about Trump and rewriting history (just like libs).
Thank God for CTH, I’d be absolutely losing my mind without you. The only one I trust to be fair and reasonable. Really are the last refuge for patriotic Americans 🙏❤️🇺🇸
The Ron bots remind me of the Cruz bots back in 2016 election.
As an ex-Cruzbot, I say your comparison is spot on. I’ve seen this movie before, and it has aged very poorly with me.
I agree with you. Personally, I think Trump is stupid to run again. He has taken enough abuse from the leftists and media for any man and should never open himself to it again. Don’t get me wrong, I admire Trump and always will, but at his age, even in good health, he doesn’t need to take all that crap again. As we know, they can dish it out, but they can’t take it.
President Trump is not stupid.
Trump is too old, God bless him. DeSantis is clearly the front-runner.
What do you get paid per hour?
They aren’t sending their best.
Haha. I see what you did there. 😉
HA!!! Touché!
Just to validate your point:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/german-domestic-intelligence-running-100s-fake-right-wing-extremist-social-media
And does Brandon get 10% off the top of that? 😛
sounds like another one of those trolls or fe(d)ral provocateurs
I took Laura’s comment as sarcasm
Uh huh, you run with that…
DeSantis is a great governor, but he doesn’t have a GHOST of a chance to stand up to the people who will give him THE SAME treatment they give Trump if he becomes the frontrunner who threatens their Crime Syndicate and their global Totalitarian agenda. He doesn’t have even CLOSE to the personal wealth needed to file lawsuits or hire legal counsel to defend himself as Trump has and I predict he would fold quickly, like a cheap suit, and make deals with these criminals to get them to back off, just like every other RINO turncoat we have witnessed.
Please keep in mind that DeSantis voted for the Trans Pacific Partnership, which would have given away US sovereignty to a group of countries essentially controlled by the ChiComs. To his credit, on day ONE of his presidency, Trump pulled us out of that impending DISASTROUS legal contract.
Agree and therein lies the problem we cannot seem to solve. There is no other Trump. A man coming from outside of politics with a MAGA heart, America first economic portfolio, self funding and willing to fight and spend it. There is NO ONE with that resume.
Desantis is another candidate that comes with the party’s seal of approval. Life after Trump is returning to life before Trump. Trump isn’t living forever.
Nope…200 million in corporate funded war chest says he’s the one bought for and in service of the UniParty.
He’ll speak of border security, not the wall.
He’ll speak of health care but keep Obamacare.
He’ll speak of jobs, but increase H1B visas.
He’ll speak of manufacturing but increase imports.
He’ll speak of COVID but hold Pfizer and Big Pharma accountable.
He’ll speak of reducing government while increasing bureaucracy.
He’ll speak of change but everything remains the same which is how to extract as much money from citizens to feed the Federal government
He’ll speak about election integrity, but will never say the 2020 election was stolen from PDJT.
And, the time to say it has already passed.
And for me, thats all I need to know. All of Sundances well researched explanations on how he is following the GOPe playbook, and financing was good for making the case,…but I was already there BECAUSE of his silence on the 2020 steal.
As far as I am concerned, thats my shiboleth.
Agree.
Do you mean he’ll speak of COVID but not hold Pfizer and Big Pharma accountable?
I reread that myself, and it is good either way. The way it was I read to mean only hold them accountable, not China, Fauci or all of the other lying idiots who shut us down for 2+ years and forced illegal jabs on us. Not the globalist planners who concocted the plandemic to steal a Presidency and our wealth.
Think Durham. He’s protecting the FIBs/DOIJs and PRETENDING they were lied to and duped. Poor things.
excellent points well made
Mike, That was just true and brilliant. You are either Sundance or a protege. I am copying this for future us.
Name one straw poll taken at any conservative convention, get together, State meeting, etc. that shows DeSantis “is clearly the front runner”.
The women’s GOPe caucus in Central Indiana is HIGH on DeSantis. That tells me all I need to know. Based upon the GOPs track record of “leadership”… we need a new party. These two are broken.
The Queen was 96, I think Trump can make it through OK.
Good point!
Bite your Tongue, before God takes stronger measures!
Trump beats out everyone in polling, including DeSantis. Trump is the front runner for 2024. There isn’t any dispute about that anywhere.
Is that you Mitch?
At some point, we have to have an alternate candidate(s), he’s not immortal and we better at least consider the possibility that he isn’t running. He never committed to that, he eludes to it, but that’s Trump’s MO, he keeps everyone tuned in.
“I admire Trump and always will”
You are lacking candor.
If Trump doesn’t run we will have to wait 20-40 years for the next disruptor.
Eisenhower – Reagan = 20 years
Reagan – Trump = 28 years
DeSantis is owned by whomever is paying his way, and it ain’t us.
If Trump doesn’t run, we will have to wait 20-40 years for the next disruptor.”
We don’t have that long. If Trump doesn’t run, or runs and “loses” it’s all over.
It may be longer or not ever. The 4th Turning
My dear old lady, you know NOT of What you Speak.
Now, fetch yourself a nice Hot Toddy, crawl under the covers, sip a bit and slip away…far, far, far away into a dreamland so sweet and lovely that you wish to stay.
Nighty-Nite.
Not just replying to you Abi, but what is with all the personal attack snark and put downs on Laura’s simply posted opinion? 2days after the thread on rules?
It seems like it is ok to do this to someone who has a dissenting opinion. Personally, I believe her statement on Desantis being a front runner is inaccurate, so challenge that, but the rest of it? What has happened to us?
The “conservative cancel-culture” and cult-like worship of one very flawed man have made me scarce of late.
Posters here used to be able to hold a conversation.
Now they want to kill people who question anything about Trump. Kind of the same as leftists treat anyone not towing the Maoist line, isn’t it?
People need to grow up and stop acting like the Communists we are supposed to be fighting.
Either you believe in liberty or you don’t. This place doesn’t believe in liberty any longer, but in slavish conformity. Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He’s not God.
Gar, you are expressing exactly what I see, and feel, especially the “leftist” behavior. Not so leftist anymore. The demand for group think here Trumps liberty. Pun intended.
Stay well.
I think they are trolls
Perhaps President Trump thrives on it. 😉
Got a neighbor. She is in her 90s. She has a stubborn German heritage. She has enemies.
Always tell her that her having enemies is what is keeping her alive. She likes that. 😁
Love this! Yes, and our President Trump has a stubborn Scottish heritage. He will not rest until history states the truth in his lifetime. I love that about him!
President Trump is half German in his heritage.
Trump loves the fight, he loves new challenges. Review his life. He reached the pinnacle of building, groomed the kids and went out out the top, then tackled entertainment, smashed records and went out at the top, turns to politics, can’t get any higher than POTUS. Where does one go from here? Enter a race he cannot win (they won’t let him), or become a Kingmaker. I still am betting Trump endorses Desantis.
Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, based on recent history, TPTB deprived PDJT the Constitutional enumerated powers of the office and took away his second term. When I post that he cannot win, it is from that perspective, not personal.
President Trump is half German in his heritage.
I despise that word “stupid” especially when in a sentence that goes against the Greatest President ever, in America. I wish we had someone like PDJT here. May God Bless him.
Agree with you old lady and Melania doesn’t need it either. For the reasons you state and for many others, I have never been convinced Trump will run again. For that reason, I don’t spend much time on the Ron vs Don thingy. If Desantis is a bad guy, why support him for governor? Destroy him if he challenges Trump, but back him for governor? I’m gettin’ old.
If President Trump doesn’t run again, shouldn’t he be grooming/supporting
his successor? Other than Kari Lake, who is only still running for gov of
Arizona, LOL – I see no one.
IMO, Trump will support someone once someone actually declares candidacy. He has thrown his support behind many candidates later in races. It is still early. I think we will know a lot more after Nov. elections.
Some are called, they are born for their time. Trump is one of that rare breed.
There is really no one else that can do what he needs to do.
If Ron does indeed decide to run against President Trump, it will be a political miscalculation of intergalactic proportions.
Agreed. Not sure how that hurts President Trump though.
By all means he should stay as Governor and run FL.
Ron will absolutely lose if he runs against Trump, but it will be acrimonious and nasty.
Surely Ron knows all this, and should he succumb to the pressure from his financiers to proceed, it will speak volumes.
As to “Not sure how that hurts President Trump though”.
Will the unhappy and wounded splinters be a boon, or a bane, for the America First movement?
Not really. Look at the back story of how DeSantis was dragged
over the finish line by President Trump.
I realize that “loyalty” doesn’t matter in today’s world as much,
however, it is a huge issue to me.
When was the last time YOU stabbed a friend/supporter, etc. in the
back?
He’s free to run if he wants. That doesn’t mean he’ll win, but it might get him the Vice-Presidential nomination.
he should stay guv and improve his game, then consider 2028
I don’t want DeSantis in 2028 either. It will have to be a verified Trumpian who has Trump’s endorsement.
Not a Chance of that!
I hope that this time, the GOPe have no say in who should be the VP.
And, if they do, and win, that President Trump keeps them on an airplane
flying around the world.
DeSantis is already dead to me now. I live in Florida, and I will not be voting for him again.
Wow so he did nothing good? , you would have preferred the drug addict as governor and being locked down all the way during the whole pandemic? So his action do not speak at all? He saved many people by his actions in Florida, I moved to free Florida because of him and because the idiot in Nevada destroyed us financially!!!
Why this hate? I do not want him to run against Trump either , but he is a great governor of Florida!! I admire Trump for his incredible bravery and because he is truly the president of the american people, no one ever will be again like him!!! But I do not share this hysteria and hate towards DeSantis a person who was attracted from all sides when he was protecting my freedoms here. Wow how quickly people forget!!
Very well stated. The longer I am here, the more I scratch my head.
Cult of personality. Oh, and cancel culture. This place is becoming right-wing Twitter.
entirely missing the point
The fact that he is doing all these good things for the wrong reasons makes him just as bad if not WORSE than people like Newsom and Whitmer.
In other words, he’s not even a good governor.
Also, DeSantis did not protect our freedoms during the early stages of the pandemic, but his PR team wants to lie about that and even wage smear campaigns against other governors who DID protect their people’s freedoms in the early stages of the pandemic.
My goodness. People like you will allow the next leftist homosexual drug abuser win cuz he’s black and slightly articulate. DeSantis may be all things Sundance says, but he’s still the best Governor in the United States. I’ll trade you Doug Ducey for him.
No, he’ll be a good governor, just not for national office. We already know what a disaster Charlie will be
#Trump did many good things. But he never had the patience or temperament to learn the politics and government business the way he learned casino & hotel business.
politics is the art of getting the fame, glory and monies for oneself
while pretending to do something good for the country and its citizens
OMG! I just described DeSantis! LOL
For awhile now I have had the feeling that Trump is not going to run but DeSantis is. Maybe it is just me.
This whole thing smells like week-old fish because it seems like some globalist is trying to portray himself as MAGA. In other news. In a related story, Chilean communist Gabriel Boric Font pretended not to be a communist at the UN today.
in what way has Ron De Santis EVER done anything smacking of Globalism????? He’s been fluffing his MAGA feathers for at least 4 years now.
Because sundance said so, so it must be so.
Supported TPP
Endorsed by Club for Growth
94% funded by multinationals
Jeb endorsed
Uses GOPe club managers
Did he ever reschedule fundraiser with Lee “extremist” Zeldin? No. And you know why.
DeSantis is a GOPe operative intended to give the illusion of an alternative for MAGA Trump voters.
Waiting in NY…
You left out a few others.
-Constantly lies about his record on lockdowns
-Strictly and proudly enforces the totally unconstitutional law stripping pension benefits from companies which refuse to do business in Israel
-Is apparently okay with his state having one of the most liberal post-Dobbs abortion laws out of any red or purple state
-Whenever he campaigns for another person he hijacks the event to make it about himself
-Has neocon foreign policy positions
You know what?
I believe PDJT has receipts on this fella, along with many other fine fellas and gals.
Wanna bet?
Which is why we should want RDS to run in the primary.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Trump was tight with Club for Growth until earlier this year when it backed Kathy Barnette over Oz in the PA Senate race. The head of Club for Growth was regularly at Mar a Lago and flew on Air Force One. DeSantis has been bashing woke corporations and WEF recently, something I haven’t heard many GOP candidates do before, which doesn’t square with the McConnell wing of the party. The way to tell if DeSantis is GOPe is for someone to ask him about Ukraine.
President Trump is not tight with the Club for Growth
Does he meet with many people on both sides to see where
they might have common ground? Yes
He’s already stated that he supports Ukraine against Russia.
Which is why he would struggle against President Trump and be exposed in the effort.
So, Kari Lake had him come rally for her. Kari Lake, therefore, is NOT MAGA and is a globalist shill by association.
And when he did, he hijacked the rally and made it all about himself. He should’ve been booed off the stage for that.
Short and Sweet. The facts and nothing but the facts. Sundance leads us to water, but you have to drink on your own. Sundance is a National Treasure.
I must admit, as a Florida citizen, I know very little about Ron DeSantis. I will say he certainly “talks the talk”.
On the other hand, Sundance, whom I’ve followed closely for several years has opened my eyes to a number of things political. Consequently, if I have to pick a horse in the political nuance race, Sundance is it.
Not to put too fine a point on it but we all should remember that Charlie Crist was once a “Republican” Governor of Florida.
Hell yes, he is. Not my candidate…
Yes, he’s all that…. Crist is not an option. We in Florida have a choice given to us, DeSantis or Crist.
Let’s save it until after 11/8.
Trump is the only candidate for ’24
Everyone knows deep down this was a good move. Some on here need to read an article by Sundance first to figure out how to react and maybe worse, how to think.
This tactic looks like a PR stunt to put DeSantis out front, knowing that PT at this point does not have the same tactics available.
But beware, GOPe. President Trump has an entire arsenal.
Abbott was doing this first and nobody here criticized him. Is it a GOPe tactic to humiliate the elites? They are the elites!!! GOPe doesn’t want to stop the flow of illegals. They just can’t admit it. This move can potentially begin an honest debate for once in this country about stopping illegal immigration because we now have definitive proof that the sanctuary crowd virtue signalers really don’t want them either.
True. PT defined this the afternoon he descended the escalator in Trump Tower. 2015.
How we forget.
Agreed.PR stunt for MSM. I don’t think it puts RD in front for POTUS, though. The MAGA crowd watches less and less MSM. Just look at DJT rally crowds in PA, OH almost 23 months after the election was stolen. Very loyal to DJT. And, they have been clued into the RINO traitors. Bye, bye, Lizzie. So, true MAGA may appreciate RD’s stunt but they know the authentic leader who has shown them the truth.
There are many more who should educate themselves by reading
Sundance and others who do the research needed to get to the facts.
Reading the facts and comprehending them, however, seem to
be a task for some people.
Yes, your petulant repartee won me over, I’m convinced, all hail Ron!
LOL!
I give DeSantis No Quarter.
His statements on foreign policy speak for themselves. He’s a Bush wannabe.
he’s certainly smarter and better on politics than Jeb or W
Only slightly.
It’s a very low bar…
Voting for TPP in the House is pretty damned Globalist.
Follow the money!
Stop the pretending who owns WEF DeSantis !
Voting for TPP when he was a Representative in the House.
With that said I like what he has been doing for about the past year or so as Governor.
The money DeSantis has taken from his donors.
he went to Yale…
Sundance, would you happen to know is DeSantis is Skull & Bones?
Good question.
He wasn’t in Skull and Bones, but he ‘was’ listed as a “notable member” of the St. Elmos Secret Society at Yale, at least until his name was scrubbed from the Wiki.
It’s not a big secret that he was a member, this has been known for years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elmo_(secret_society)#Membership
Has he replaced Florida’s Dominion machines?
He CAN’T. My God! How many times do I have to spell this out? The LEGISLATURE passed a law approving the machines.
You want him to be a Biden or Obama and use a pen and cell phone as a dictator to rule?
Get after the Florida Legislature to get rid of the damned machines. That is the CONSTITUTIONAL way.
he HAS pushed the FL legislature to approve legislation that he has supported in the last 4 years….you think if he had been making PUBLIC mockery of the voting system since 2018 and especially after 2020 they would not have looked to improved and tightened it up?……NO EXCUSES
He is the CEO of the state. He could do press conferences after press conferences admonishing his REPUBLICAN majority legislature to pass legislation banning the machines. That could be his main campaign promise. He could point to PDJT and use the stolen 2020 election about why the machines need to go!
But he doesn’t.
In other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
Confronting liberals with their own hypocracy is like throwing holy water on them.
It burns!!
Queue up the theme from ‘Exorcist‘. Now I’m going to have to watch that tonight just to hear Mercedes McCambridge utter “It burns!!” as the devil in Linda Blair. 😀
Tubular Bells – Mike Oldfield. Got the original vinyl back in 1976. Still have it. A great album for it’s time.
I appreciate that you are absolutely fair with him. The information you have provided is very eye opening. He may do some great stuff, but his owners ultimately hold his leash.
His presumed “owners” might find him more independent than they bargained for.
We can only hope.
LOL…..I would say for $200M there are a LOT of assurances for future action
it certainly would be a great turnabout on take the money and run
Doubt it. Ron will always need their money. Lawyer, after all.
I’ve growled some things about DeSantis, aand a 2024 challenge to Trump is at best a mistaken approach to try for VP, and at its worst, globocop bad.
But…
he might learn enough to do MAGA right. If he tries hard enough in FL until 2028.
He is 💯 percent owned. That will not change with time.
that is a great way of putting it “his owners ultimately hold his leash”.
Desantis sent the newer version of “pilgrims” to the shores of Taxachusetts and the indigenous liberals tossed them.
They couldn’t wait to call the National Guard and have those illegal immigrants removed. How is that offering sanctuary?
They meant to offer up our homes, not theirs.
and the shirts off our backs
2.5 soldiers per person.
Now they are all at Otis Air Force Base.
Did those illegals even make it to Florida in the first place?
What DeSantis did was absolutely THE RIGHT THING TO DO , nobody should pay any mind whatsoever to the liberals screaming about it .
The left hates being exposed for who they really are and who they really are is people who are extremely HATEFUL , INTOLERANT AND VIOLENT .
Any guesses which leftist defaced the Washington Monument tonight?
Supposedly the ‘perps’ are in custody. If the story disappears or really never appears we’ll know the answer.
I’m expecting Antifa types.
Will probably claim it deserved it being a monument to an old white guy that happened to be a wealthy land holding slave owner.
with the majority of it financed by American school children over two different periods in American history to help fund its construction
DeSantis merely magnified what Abbott already did, instead of DC/NYC, it’s now Martha’s Vinyard. It’s not an original act, but the optics move is off the charts here.
This stuff by the left is merely being done to destroy neighborhoods/US workers. DeSantis hit the nail on the head here, but I think he also had no choice but to do it.
I want to know why he spent $600,000 for 50 people. WTH cost so much? $12,000 per person?
Next time load them in a bus and drive them there.
So true. The galling aspect was that so outrageous and flagrantly illegal a policy as the rampant repopulation of the United States–against the will of the majority of American citizens!– was being completely ignored by mainstream media and the entire Dem establishment, but most glaringly by Biden and Harris where the illegal policy had originated. THAT’S WHAT WAS INTOLERABLE.
Today’s American government more and more resembles that of Nazi Germany. The similarities now easily outweigh the differences.
The “hold my beer” approach.
They’re not the government; they are corporate providers of government services that wildly overstepped their authority and only act as the government. Congress holds public office by fraud – they are not deputies acting in the interest of their constituents but rather are corporate officers and trustees (unworthy of trust). The “Thing” in Washington, DC, is the Congress of the United States, not The United States in Congress Assembled. Know the difference so that when these rotters are finally yanked from power the original, true government of the republic can be restored.
Hostile foreign takeover.
Someone hired a plane to tow a banner overhead in MV today that said Vineyard Hypocrites—needless to say they didn’t get it. They are completely tone deaf, the responses on line were comical but very sad.
That is the problem with trying to shame zealots.
Zealots are too stupid, or too entrenched in their beliefs, or both, to have the needed epiphany. That is why calling out hypocrisy, as necessary and as satisfying as it might be, is an exercise in diminishing returns.
Calling them out does not a bit of good, but showing who they all are sure did show what they are…..and it isn’t nice, so I won’t say it.
That is who they are……self involved, self interest only. They still THINK they are better than others cause they might have bigger house or more money,but they ain’t……..they have no loyalty either.
Unless I missed it, I have not heard a peep from Obama, THE ONE, on this attempted “invasion” of Martha’s Vineyard? 🤔….. To quote a walking corpse, Come on man, this is a big fn deal. 🤣
Brilliant move by whoever paid for the banner. Would be a great thing to do every day over their private beaches,yacht clubs, and Obama’s mansion.
You will notice that he only said the border was closed when Biden took office. He couldn’t give credit to President Trump for doing it.
He gave credit to Trump. He said his policies were working and Biden reversed them just to be anti-Trump.
It’s a well crafted PR stunt, but call me when he pushes for Florida’s legislature to actually change the laws on housing, transporting and employing the millions of illegals in Florida.
Zero faith in the great GOP Trojan horse putting any real change on the board.
Trump, Abbott.. All of them are trojan horses.
Curious who pays you and how much?
Where is the inspection of the Dominion machines?
If some Sheriff can sue DeSantis then DeSantis can sue Georgia and Arizona for their screwed up election.
Abbott and TX tried that with NINE other states as co Plaintiffs and Roberts said they did not have standing
I would contend that the questions about Dominion post election are created intentionally to keep people chasing their tails…
The more pressing question is… Why has no red state, despite all of the well documented and KNOWN election problems, not passed a single set of new election laws stopping or preventing a repeat?
Georgia by example actually passed laws further protecting things like Dominion.
I’m trying to refine my understanding of DeSantis. He did not protest the raid of Mar-a-lago. It’s not clear if he is for or against DJT as president. His actions are more MAGA than most politicians. Sundance is warning us against being to trusting because he is taking money from GOPe, USCOC, WEC types. But doesn’t Lawfare work for them? Why is Lawfare going against DeSantis on the Immigration response?
Is it a all a scripted play? If so, why pay attention to it. Why keep our attention diverted from things like reclaiming the lost election. Securing the tallying of votes to be accurate with the upcoming election. Definig MAGA more clearly with an agenda of high yield, high ground gaining strategies?
Don’t you know by now that these guys take turns doing or saying things we want to hear or see? They do it all the time.
They take turns just to keep the voters liking them and raving every now and then, then they go back to stabbing us in back with other things.
It’s called give them a little toughness then go back to ignoring them and figuring out how they themselves can get the most money in their pockets.
At least that is my humble opinion.
All Kabuki Theater.
True! But now use that same analytical acumen to answer whether or not the United States, its freedoms, its constitutional form of government, has ever in its history had its back up against the wall as it does now in 2022??
Only the Civil War comes to mind.
We must eliminate the Democrat Party from every single office its representatives hold. They have overtly and arrogantly embraced the most vile, nihilistic political ideology any person currently alive today could have ever conceived of.
There must be a very heavy price to pay for that!
Ya, it’s called eternal damnation
Yes. It is akin to WWE (professional wrestling) putting on a show. Enemies in the ring. Buddies in the changing room.
Are we distracted? By ‘we’ I mean average Americans, not Treepers. Bread and circuses History is replete with examples. If it is a distraction, MSM will be on board and stay on it. Until the next distraction.
I consulted my usual Communist news aggregator, Yahoo, and found three articles referencing Santis, way down the page, one on the tax break news conference covered in this thread, one about suspending another official, this time a GOP’er, and one about his ‘failed’ promise to send more illegals to Biden’s beach town.
MSM has moved on, apparently.
Does anyone still pay any attention to the MSM? I left several years ago and have never gone back.
I quit watching Fox in 1999 and Limbaugh about the same time.
The event that most showed DeSantis up: He was scheduled to speak at Lee Zeldin’s fundraiser, but he had a meeting beforehand with Jay Cayre in NJ. Jay Cayre had just given more than $400,000 to Lee Zeldin’s opponent and suddenly DeSantis had an emergency to attend so he cancelled the Lee Zeldin fundraiser. Except it was not an emergency, had been known for 2 or 3 days already.
He voted for the TransPacific Partnership in Congress after a $267,000 donation from Club for Growth.
He is not MAGA. He is not America First. He is being used by establishment Republicans to try to kill America First. The donations he is receiving prove he owes too many billionaires to ever put America First. That makes me very sad, but we have to face facts, not feelings.
Yes, he is a good governor. Yes, he is fully a conservative and has stood up to Biden policies in certain areas which I am glad to see. (I wish more governors would effectively oppose Biden policies.) BUT that doesn’t translate to economic goals of America First.
Lee Zeldin, by the way, is only a point or two from Kathy Hochul in polls. I hope he wins or at least does very well despite DeSantis cancelling him.
NO, he is NOT fully a conservative…..LITTLE action on election integrity and the latest act sending illegals to MV was his FIRST act of defiance after tough talk about the open border….he has SAID he would bring the weight of the state of FL down on NGOs assisting the federal government moving illegals into the state long ago….STILL waiting
Yep. And the Dominion machine audit. THE GOPe must be saving the machines for a primary?
I believe Zeldin is ahead, everyone here in NY HATES Hochul. Even the fake polls have her under 50%. We just need to overwhelm the cheat. Will be a big effort.
Lawfare going against DeSantis gives him MAGA street cred, which then siphons support from Trump. Or so they hope.
I’ll offer another take… MAGA is nothing more than another synonym for Republican.
Like the left, the Right (GOP/RNC) is trying hard to convince it’s base that a dude in a skirt is a chick. Aka a republican isnt a republican if you call it by a different name.
History has me on this, see the Tea Party (>3X the number of people elected to office over MAGAs current numbers), Perot and Goldwater moments to name a few. But about every 10-12 years someone reinvents a new brand name that results in… More Republicans!
Just like “reclaiming” the 2020 was the whole focus of everything post 2020. It was a pointless metric but HIGHLY successfully means of ignoring that no red state actually bothered to pass any real election reform… Some, like Georgia actually made it worse!
Insanity and propaganda isn’t party specific… what is specific to both is… more big government.
When you watch what is happening without confirmation bias… Things both, get big fast, and become ironically obvious.
Sundance finally broke the damn on DeSantis, but I’ve been saying it non-stop for two years… These people are OBVIOUS.
I disagree that MAGA is equivalent to Republican. The RNC is a corporation run by business as usual, establishment people. What President Trump is trying to do is to change the direction and base of the RNC to become MAGA, more aligned to the needs of ordinary, American people economically and socially. He is a nationalist in every sense of the word, aka patriotic as well as pushing to build a manufacturing, farming, and small business base in this country that will grow the GDP.
Biden is pushing to destroy that base, to align to the global multinationals and banks. Right now, the RNC is also aligned with the globalists because that is where the money is. That is why President Trump’s goals are really a quiet revolution of the Republican Party.
The guy is a progressive being confused as a a new age definition of conservative.
USMCA wasn’t nationalism, but the propaganda certainly was.
DeSantis hit a “hot button” and exposed for all to see the hypocrisy of the elite Liberals. It will never be quite the same for these hypocrites from here on out. Sunlight is a wonderful thing.
I like DeSantis. He’s articulate and effective in getting his points across.
If this is the only thing DeSantis has done or ever does, it is monumental.
That’s a very low standard.
The immigration stunt was boring and unimaginative. But it makes Tricker happy and mollifies the republican base. Been there, seen that – for the past 35 years.
We need solutions.
Solutions? It all comes in one word: TRUMP!
Long live Trump.
By the way, he can still run for President with felony convictions according to the constitution and case law.
Start with build a big beautiful wall
Kind of what Kari Lake said
What was the legal authority for the National Guard to remove the illegals from Marthas Vineyard? Did the soldiers illegally assume ICE authority or other law enforcement functions?
Did the illegal aliens, when confronted with armed soldiers, believe they were free to leave? Or were they made to think they were in custody?
Under what authority are they confined to a military base?
Looks like a significant 4th Amendment violation, i.e. an unreasonable seizure. Possibly also a false arrest by persons with no arrest authority.
The constitution does not apply to non-citizens.
Indeed it does.
Illegally in country.
Yes, even illegal aliens are protected by our Constitution. Our laws concerning them are contained in Title 8, US Code, which along with the rest of the US Code titles springs directly from our Constitution.
You may also have observed that when illegal aliens commit other crimes (in addition to their entry without inspection), they go thru our judicial system, are afforded legal counsel, jury trial, etc. Mr. Zarete, for example, who killed the young woman on Pier 17 in San Francisco, prevailed in court on his murder charge.
Lastly, merely for consideration, let us say a foreign national on a visa commits a crime (quite common) and is arrested. Subsequently his visa expires, making him unlawfully present in the US. Do his protections under our Constitution then expire along with his visa? Can he then be compelled to incriminate himself in violation of his 5th Amendment? Can a confession be beaten out of him? Can he be sent to prison without a trial and conviction? No to all of these questions.
So to return to the original question, the illegal aliens (in my opinion) have a much stronger case against the National Guard, than against Governor Desantis.
When foreign invaders INVADE your country, what is that status?
You are mixing oranges and apples here, this has nothing to do with the Constitution, it can spring all you want it too.
“Title 8, US Code, which along with the rest of the US Code titles springs directly from our Constitution.”
The constitution says nothing about illegals
but, then, who follows the constitution any more?
The constitution does apply to non-citizen residents of USA.
that is why the big fight to get the “asylum seekers” into the country……outside the country they have fewer rights and protections than simply letting them come within the borders
Non-citizen residents, yet what about illegal invaders?
yes, they aren’t a resident if they don’t have a home here
They have no rights and who is paying for this or trying to establish a precedent.
Birth gives Americans the right of citizenship but to those who immigrate citizenship must be given by the rule of law. The Framers made it very clear that the law must first be satisfied before the rights of citizenship are available. Each Constitutional reference to our rights and privileges are for the people who are the citizens only.
The Framers realized that once the freedoms and liberties that we have in this country became known to the world that The United States would become a melting pot of cultures and nationalities from all over the world. But they also understood the necessity of keeping our identity as Americans and in establishing a uniform rule of law for gaining citizenship in America and having as born and naturalized citizens the rights and privileges as an American!
In most jurisdictions it does.
The good, oh so caring libs of MV told them they couldn’t stay there, sooo in came the buses to take them to the base for NG to baby sit.
Don’t know who funded the buses, still working on that.
Got them closer to their new lawyers that filed a class action suit because get this— RD and FL treated them worse than Maduro.
And the illegals were sent to a Superfund cleanup site.
https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/superfund-redevelopment-initiative/superfund-sites-reuse-massachusetts_.html
And you can bet they do not have any free movement even on the military base.
It sticks out to me that the Texas sheriff who is making noise about going after DeSantis is the sheriff of Bexar County (San Antonio). Politically, the Castro twins – Julian and Joachin – are based there. I would not be surprised to hear that a Castro is behind this lawfare threat.
I’d like to know what he is doing about the ones that still say they want to come to Florida and no where else.
Does anyone know anything about that? I sure wish he was booting them out of Florida period.
I’m sorry but I don’t think they should be given the option of choosing which state they want to come into illegally. Send them back home.
Of course, you’re right.
What DeSantis managed to achieve with this tactic is so enormous BECAUSE Dems never really gave any of this any thought because they assumed these migrants would simply disappear and never return except to collect benefits in some state, county or city.
Whether you like him or not, whether he has presidential aspirations or not, you cannot deny that he gave MAGA candidates throughout the country an enormous gift by getting the immigration issue back into focus. It’s forced the Dems to play defense while the clock is ticks down to Election Day.
Luv my Gov.
A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends.
– Baltasar Gracian
Yes, he solved a riddle. What the heck to do about all of this. You can only rant and rave for a time, but when no one pays attention, then what? Because of DeSantis, they are, against their own will, paying attention.
This now creates a political opening to hammer Dems for initiating this policy and then, disgracefully, having ignored it.
We can now press the question: What were you intending to do with all these people, and why did you ignore them?
I guess I’m not as impressed as some on here….with DeSantis’ little stunt. Sure it scored him a couple short term political points. But in the meantime…..our country continues to be Invaded every hour of everyday….for almost 2 years.
I’m disgusted that as Americans…..we continue to stand by and allow our country to be turned into some 3rd world shithole.
Surely our forefather’s are rolling over in their graves.
I like Desantis AS A GOVERNOR.
DeSantis Airlines is fueled and ready to go.
At $12,000 a person, with a $6 million appropriation to work with, this is good for only 500 illegals.
What next, Ron?
In one moment the liberal elites hypocrisy is exposed for the whole nation to see. They make tone deaf statements about the situation and best of all, their unearned moral superiority is ripped away. I’ll give credit to DeSantis and Abbott because they deserve it. Instead of questioning their motives, we should be pounding the liberals on this issue.
I love how DeSantis stands up to the press.
The DeSantis antics are not something a MAGA politician would do.
It’s penny-ante, gotcha, politics as usual.
I wonder if the illegals were told they were being taken to a military base.
Bravo Ron DeSantis for exposing the perverse hypocrisy of the radical Left Elites. Next, I’d like to see illegals dropped off in the Hamptons and Biden’s beach house in Delaware. Pelosi’s winery in Napa would be another great location- plenty of open space there. Surely those areas are also designated “Sanctuary Cities” whose citizens love open borders and would love the opportunity to take care of indigent illegals in their towns? As DeSantis points out, if the wealthiest of Elitist WASP cities can’t accommodate 50 illegals, then how is any other city in the country supposed to do this?
I wonder if Tucker ever thought anyone would take him up on his idea of sending illegals to Martha’s Vineyard! This has certainly been illuminating.
To actually see a real time example play out of leftist hypocrisy has been priceless.
A brilliant move in one stroke by Ron DeSantis.
Abbott had been transporting illegals to various sanctuary cities all year to barely any notice in the media but the Achilles heel was found by DeSantis with Martha’s Vineyard where the elites play.
DeSantis is the leading successor to Trump (with Kari Lake also in contention if she wins).
I would love to see Trump/DeSantis 2024 and then I wish the see the end of the GOP in favor of a new political party, the American Party 🇺🇸 or whatever you want to call it (MAGA, Patriot, America First, etc).
After that DeSantis/Lake 2028; Lake/Masters 2036 and on and on until this country has utterly vanquished socialism and leftist extremism along with China ! MAGA!!
People calling for a Trump/DeSantis 2024 need to remember something. DeSantis is not MAGA. DeSantis took bags full of cash from GOPe and GOPe billionaires. If they win, this puts DeSantis in the perfect position to “Pence” Trump, AKA a stab in the back. I believe Trump is far, far smarter than that. Also, DeSantis went to Yale. Is DeSantis Skull & Bones? It is an evil, foul club. Just something to think about.
It is good to see others bringing up a subject that NO ONE talked about, and media memory holed, until DJT first thrust it out into the media.
Americans who’s lives are ruined or taken by illegal aliens committing crimes.
DJT highlighted it, when he “set up” the media, who thought he was going totalk about his tax returns, and instead he invited family members of victims of illegal aliens.
He broke the barrier, now DeSantis, KL and other Candidates are talking about it.
Its GOOD to have it talked about.
And he’s running, in 2024.
And, so is PDJT.
IMHO, take it to the bank.
Quite Frankly, from where I am sitting, it’s apparent to me that everything DeSantis, says, portrays, divulges, promotes or denies is well thought out, choreographed, “central casting” (~ PDJT), purposeful, timely, scripted, with a theme for one moment in time to carry through a campaign effort with the ultimate goal of Winning!
But he is NOT going to Run for President of the United States Today…
AND with tears welling up in my eyes…He is definitely NOT MAGA; well, (to clarify), not like me and mine who are genuine MAGA; all the way Baby!
Yes, DeSantis is “Wag The Dog”
Let me elaborate on my reply to Sundance below above, where I said DeSantis needs to be “destroyed” now.
He does not deserve to be re-elected. If he is doing all these good things for the wrong reasons, then that arguably makes him just as bad if not WORSE than governors like Newsom or Whitmer.
Also, for those who believe there’s room for him as either VP or as a member of the Cabinet or White House staff, his brand of conservatism is toxic even without taking into account the donors. If he had any role in a second Trump administration in any way whatsoever, he would be yet another on a long list of bad appointments who did more to sabotage MAGA than to enforce it.
No, he’s fine for governor. Just not federal office.
Having Crist would be a disaster.
Uh, wait a minute. How many Black Somalian Muslims did Barack Obama parachute into all-White small towns in New England and the upper Midwest, sometimes changing them to majority Black and majority Muslim communities overnight?
I don’t know about Black Muslims, except for the large community in Minnesota,
but he did arrange for Central Americans to be flown in my town in total secrecy.
Noone knew about it until they were here.
Lewiston, Maine
I kinda conflicted. Really trust Sundance…he warns about DeSantis…but I also worry about Trump. Trump has chosen so many bad employees.
Proving SD point,,,,,,They were all in it. EVERY ONE of these demons. Trump couldn’t find ONE honest person??? Totally effed up. His so called advisors were all against him. Incredible he’s still alive!!!!!
Many conservatives I know in the NE are a little tired of Trump’s look what I did bit and are openly talking about preferring DeSantis over Trump. Also many are a little pissed about operation Warp Speed and the unneeded declaration of national emergency over covid which unleashed democrat governors dictator powers. Nor do they want to listen to 4 more years of fake crimes and congressional witch hunts.
It’s interesting to read the comments here. I can’t say I’ve read another comment section with such an anti DeSantis vibe. Justified or not I don’t think the majority feel the same about the governor, so the GOP messaging is working.
NE as in New England ? Here is a clue- look at the election map last several cycles , maybe back to President Reagan ? New England seems always that familiar Blue – won’t matter who your ‘many’ NE conservative friends prefer, good for them but I will Bet 1000 donuts to a dollar – NE will be Blue in 2024 no matter who the Republican nominee is ( unless perhaps it is PDJT ), make that 10,000 donuts
Just to beat a dead horse so to speak – Ct , Mass . RI and Vt you could run a dead dog ( not even the proverbial yellow dog ) and it would win against the Republican – NH and Maine might be closer , but probably might have to be a live dog plus some of the usual minimal cheating to push it across the finish line. Add NY ( Dems outnumber Rep. like 4or 5 to 1) and NJ and you have Northeast Blue – where the Presidential elections are usually called for the Dem. Candidate 5 minutes after the polls close and with less than 1% of the vote in …that’s the way it is
I’ll bet you PDJT WON NY and NH legitimately in 2020…..certainly won upstate ME and maybe lower ME too
No way NY , a total pipe dream illusion -61%. to 38% – 5.2 million to 3.8 ( NYC alone gave Biden 2.3 million to 638,000 for PDJT) -sorry not a chance PDJT ‘legitimately” won NY – , what state are you from ? there are more registered Dems in NYC alone Than Rep. in the WHOLE of NY state -upstaters and suburban NY say all my neighbors voted for PDJT how did we lose ? Sure win less populated counties – sure 2 dozen voters for PDJT – go to one Apt address in NYC get 5,000 Dem votes – NY demographics don’t work – NH probably cheated as I say above and Me? – but Ct , RI , MA , Vt , NJ AND NY demographically solid blue –
BTw go back to every Presidential election in NY since 2000- that’s far enough for a trend – no Republican Presidential Candidate was ever able to break 40% ( PDJT came closest I think -) all others hovered between 33-36%
So tell your friends that they need to send MAGA people to CONgress to support Trump. He had no support from McConnell or Ryan in 17 and 18, and of course it was a Dem house after that.
DeSantis giving Trump credit again after the Mar-a-Lago fiasco didnt go as planned and then Trump basically tells him to go get his shine box.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/09/17/president-trump-shares-article-about-a-trump-v-desantis-matchup/
Makes me think the Mar-A-Lago raid plan may have been a joint one. Jus’ sayin’.
And President Trump’s team is telling us the obvious.
I like DeSantis showing who the left really is, but we know since he will be beholden to the GOPe, any action against illegal immigration will end once the election is over if he is elected to the WH.
The CoC funds the GOPe who is funding DeSantis, and nobody will upset that illegal apple cart other than Trump.
I just request this of Trump. STOP hiring such crappy people. OK?
Who do you suggest he hire? Keep in mind that most have to go through
the Mitch McConnell approval process.
….and many of his “transition and management team” turned out to be ANTI America traitors looking for the best way to help keep their DS friends at the levers of power than allow the electorate to make political decisions
Next thing, then, is to get rid of Mitch. How ’bout it, KY?
I have no complaint against Trump legal team. US law is a travesty. But please choose MAGA folks for our bureaucracys
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DeSantis needs to be asked sooner rather than later what his exact immigration policies would be, and if he would return all the executive orders of Trump’s that Biden over-turned. If not, why? He has shown the ability to think outside the box to get things done in FL. What ideas does he have for federal immigration? What is his “Build the Wall” and how can we trust it’s not another empty McCain-style “Bull the dang fence” campaign slogan? Ask why he should be believed when his backers want open borders.
Tho Wealthy Hypocrites of Martha’s Vineyard can
take their exclusiveness & put it where the sun doesn’t shine.
Undoubtedly they are today’s slave holders, clinging to their “sanctuary
preaching,” as long as the sanctuary is far from them.
Thank you, Gov. DeSantis, for getting some well-deserved sunshine in on them & their kind.
Student: “Is there a prayer for the migrants?”
Martha’s Vineyard resident: “A prayer for the migrants – – may the Lord bless and keep the migrants…far away from us!”
All apologies to “Fiddler on the Roof”
Regarding President Trump.
The concept of a president serving nonconsecutive terms does not get discussed much.
It should. It can have huge advantages. 🧐
Brilliant: If Martha’s Vineyard, one of the richest areas in the US cannot accommodate 50 illegal aliens then the rest of the US can certainly not accommodate millions.
Two steps would massively reduce the numbers:
Most of these people are not fleeing from wars and droughts but are simply economic migrants. It would be far cheaper if they were helped back home. The cost of a single family being settled in the US would likely be sufficient to assist 10 families to become productive and independent citizens in their home countries. Instead of allowing two and a half million into the US 25 million could be helped in their home countries with the benefits to their communities.
there is a provision in immigration law that PDJT attempted to get reapplied called the “public charge” provision….this requires any LEGAL immigrant to have a sponsor that for their first 5 years in the country will be financially responsible for all the needs of this individual and their family relieving the burden from the government…..as a counter to this he also sought to impose that any LEGAL immigrant accessing public welfare benefits be INELIGIBLE for naturalization since they had failed to live up to their end of the contract….he was opposed in both by not only Dimm/commies but also many prominent GOPers
The Right needs to stop pitting their warriors against each other and taking sides. DeSantis has his flaws, Trump has his flaws. DeSantis has his strengths, Trump has his strengths. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Why do so many insist that it has to be Team DeSantis or Team Trump? No matter which one wins the beauty contest, we still lose a warrior. FFS, people, STOP. We need them BOTH.
Ummm . . . . there’s only ONE position of president, which is why we’re weighing one against another.
And as for DeSantis being VP, if we’re foolish enough to want that then we’ll get another Pence.
He doesn’t have to be vp. He doesn’t have to run for president in 2024. He makes a great governor and he could make a great president. What psses me off about so many on the Right is they’re so worshipful of Trump, so RABID about him, that anyone else who seems as if he or she might be a challenger within the party is TRASHED by them. BOTH of them are warriors we need. Just because some want Trump as president again in 2024 doesn’t make Ron DeSantis Satan incarnate who is secretly in league with the globalists. And vice versa. THAT is my point.
Personally, I’d rather see DeSantis stay in Florida for his second term. He would be as overwhelmed by the corruption in D. C. as Trump was. He’d be wasted there. The real war, to my mind, is between the red states and the Left. We need warrior governors. No red state governor can compare with DeSantis and that “he’s secretly a globalist plant” is based on the flimsiest of “arguments.”
No wonder the Right loses over and over again. Two such men to fight for us and how does the Right react? By turning it into a cage match, while the Left doubtless watches and laughs. I’ve had enough of this. FFS, conservatives, STOP.
As for the “we’ll get another Pence,” utter nonsense.
“The legal maneuver being deployed to target the Florida governor, seems centered around his authority being limited to the movement of aliens who traveled to, or were residing in, Florida at the time of their transfer…”
That maneuver may well prevail in court. But so what? The legal consequences won’t be serious for such a popular governor, while the political consequences will continue to be hugely favorable. Once again, you don’t have to win the lawsuit to win the fight.
Why doesn’t this comments section have a way to read comments in chronological order? I don’t care which is “hottest” or “most reacted.” I like reading the conversations as they occurred in time, usually oldest first. I don’t know if anyone else prefers that method, but surely, I’m not the only one.
But I’d like to flip from “oldest” to “newest.” Depending on what’s being written. And I would LOVE to be able to block without reporting. Sometimes, I just don’t want to hear it from some people, but I’m not interested in going for the throat. I REALLY don’t like this particular commenting program.
Remember people Florida is not a border state. Water on three sides and Georgia and Alabama on the fourth. So how did the illegals get to Florida? Did they walk across Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama to Florida? No, they were flown to Florida in the middle of the night by the orders of Joe Biden.
So how is it so different what DeSantis is doing? It is not. As he said, Florida is not a Sanctuary state, so he is doing the illegals a big favor sending them where they are wanted, to liberal Sanctuary states and cites. Congratulation on your good intentions Governor DeSantis!
Actually they were in San Antonio. The planes sent by Fl picked them up there. That is why it stinks to me. Send FL illegals if sincere.
The Sheriff in San Antonio claiming he was going to prosecute DeSantis because of his “feelings” says America has lost touch with civics and how the country is run.
Thing is, if the Junta/Deep State succeeds in taking out – one illegal or violent way or another – President Trump before the Jan. 2025 inauguration, we – MAGA – will, God forbid, need a viable alternative.
Plan A must not proceed without a Plan B in the wings. DeSantis is the only viable Plan B I see so far. That said, it all assumes the Junta/Deep State are going to allow fair, non-rigged elections – and there is absolutely nothing to indicate that – on the contrary.
Illegals are now in the MEDIA. Just where we need theme to be