Amid a series of documents released by the Senate Judiciary Committee in April of 2020 [SEE HERE] there is a rather alarming letter from the DOJ to the FISA Court, dated July of 2018, that highlights a direct and unequivocal institutional cover-up. [Link to Letter]
Before getting to the substance of the letter, it’s important to put the 2020 release in context. After the FISA Court reviewed the DOJ inspector general report on the Carter Page FISA application assembly (2019), the FISC ordered the DOJ-NSD to declassify and release documents related to the Carter Page FISA application.
In the cover letter for this specific release to the Senate Judiciary and Senate Intelligence committees, the DOJ, then being run by AG Bill Barr, cites the January 7, 2020, FISA court order:
Keep in mind that prior to this release only the FISA court had seen this letter from the DOJ-National Security Division (DOJ-NSD). As we walk through the alarming content of the letter, I think you’ll identify the original motive behind the FISC order to release it.
First, the letter in question was sent by the DOJ-NSD to the FISA Court on July 12, 2018. It is critical to keep the date of the letter in mind as we review the content. The Weissmann/Mueller team was in full control of Main Justice.
Aside from the date the important part of the first page is the motive for sending it. The DOJ is telling the court in July 2018: based on what they know the FISA application still contains “sufficient predication for the Court to have found probable cause” to approve the application. The DOJ is defending the Carter Page FISA application as still valid.
However, it is within the justification of the application that alarm bells are found. On page six the letter identifies the primary participants behind the FISA redactions:
As you can see: Christopher Steele is noted as “Source #1”. Glenn Simpson of Fusion-GPS is noted as “identified U.S. person” or “business associate”; and Perkins Coie is the “U.S-based law firm.”
Now things get very interesting.
On page #8 when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, the DOJ notes the FBI found him to be truthful and cooperative.
This is an incredibly misleading statement to the FISA court because what the letter doesn’t say is that 18-months earlier the sub-source, also known in the IG report as the “primary sub-source”, informed the FBI that the material attributed to him in the dossier was essentially junk.
Let’s look at how the IG report frames the primary sub-source, and specifically notice the FBI contact and questioning took place in January 2017 (we now know that date to be January 12, 2017):
Those interviews with Steele’s primary sub-source took place in January, March and May of 2017; and clearly the sub-source debunked the content of the dossier itself.
Those interviews were 18-months, 16-months and 14-months ahead of the July 2018 DOJ letter to the FISC. The DOJ-NSD says the sub-source was “truthful and cooperative” but the DOJ doesn’t tell the court the content of the truthfulness and cooperation. Why?
Keep in mind this letter to the court was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018. Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG; Christopher Wray was FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy, and Dana Boente is FBI chief-legal-counsel.
Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source? This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive.
By July 2018 the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the court and said the predicate was still valid. Why?
It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.
In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.
This letter justifying the application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant…. My research suspicion is that the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from the fraudulent FISA authority. That’s the motive.
In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller’s poisoned fruit.
If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.
This is not simply a hunch, because that motive also speaks to why the FISC would order the current DOJ to release the letter.
Remember, in December 2019 the FISC received the IG Horowitz report; and they would have immediately noted the disparity between what IG Horowitz outlined about the FBI investigating Steele’s sub-source, as contrast against what the DOJ told them in July 2018.
The DOJ letter is a transparent misrepresentation when compared to the information in the Horowitz report. Hence, the court orders the DOJ to release the July letter so that everyone, including congressional oversight and the public can see the misrepresentation.
The court was misled; now everyone can see it.
The content of that DOJ-NSD letter, and the subsequent disparity, points to an institutional cover-up; and as a consequence the FISC also ordered the DOJ to begin an immediate sequestration effort to find all the evidence from the fraudulent FISA application. The proverbial fruit from the poisonous tree.
Moving on…
Two more big misstatements within the July letter appear on page #9. The first is the DOJ claiming that only after the application was filed did they become aware of Christopher Steele working for Fusion-GPS and knowing his intent was to create opposition research for the Hillary Clinton campaign. See the top of the page.
According to the DOJ-NSD claim the number four ranking official in the DOJ, Bruce Ohr, never told them he was acting as a conduit for Christopher Steele to the FBI. While that claim is hard to believe, in essence what the DOJ-NSD is saying in that paragraph is that the FBI hoodwinked the DOJ-NSD by not telling them where the information for the FISA application was coming from. The DOJ, via John Demers, is blaming the FBI.
The second statement, equally as incredulous, is at the bottom of page nine where the DOJ claims they had no idea Bruce Ohr was talking to the FBI throughout the entire time any of the FISA applications were being submitted. October 2016 through June 2017.
In essence the claim there is that Bruce Ohr was working with the FBI and never told anyone in the DOJ throughout 2016 and all the way past June 29th of 2017. That denial seems rather unlikely; however, once again the DOJ-NSD is putting the FBI in the crosshairs and claiming they knew nothing about the information pipeline.
Bruce Ohr, whose wife was working for Fusion-GPS and assisting Christopher Steele with information, was interviewed by the FBI over a dozen times as he communicated with Steele and fed his information to the FBI. Yet the DOJ claims they knew nothing about it.
Again, just keep in mind this claim by the DOJ-NSD is being made in July 2018, six months after Bruce Ohr was demoted twice (December 2017 and January 2018). If what the DOJ is saying is true, well, the FBI was completely off-the-rails and rogue.
Neither option speaks well about the integrity of either institution; and quite frankly I don’t buy the DOJ-NSD spin. Why? The reason is simple, the DOJ is claiming in the letter the predication was still valid… if the DOJ-NSD genuinely didn’t know about the FBI manipulation, they would be informing the court in 2018 the DOJ no longer supported the FISA application due to new information. They did not do that. Instead, in July 2018, they specifically told the court the predicate was valid, yet the DOJ-NSD knew it was not.
The last point about the July 2018 letter is perhaps the most jarring. Again, keep in mind when it was written Chris Wray is FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy and Dana Boente is FBI chief legal counsel.
Their own FBI reports, by three different INSD and IG investigations; had turned up seriously alarming evidence going back to the early 2017 time-frame; the results of which ultimately led to the DC FBI office losing all of their top officials; and knowing the letter itself was full of misleading and false information about FBI knowledge in/around Christopher Steele; this particular sentence is alarming:
“The FBI has reviewed this letter and confirmed its factual accuracy?”
Really?
As we have just shared, the July 2018 letter itself is filled with factual inaccuracies, misstatements and intentional omissions. So who exactly did the “reviewing”?
This declassification release raises more questions than any other in recent memory. Not a single person in legislative oversight ever asked these direct questions to FBI Director Christopher Wray.
Here’s the Full Letter. I strongly suggest everyone read the 14-pages slowly. If you know the background, this letter is infuriating.
This is the institutional corruption the DOJ and FBI are trying to keep from the public. This is the type of evidence they are seeking to remove from the custody of Donald Trump.
We need a plan.
We need to make the daily lives of certain people or certain institutions miserable with our presence.
Judges? Justices?
Bureaucrats?
Lawyers of Lawfare?
Certain DOJ individuals?
Certain FBI individuals?
This has to be personalized.
Under individuals persons are made miserable by our presence and others see they are next, we have to target individuals at their work, in their neighborhoods.
Yes. We do to them what they’ve been doing to Kavanaugh.
We do need a plan.
The shakeup in the federal bureaucracy must be massive and fundamental, to disguise the intent. Ironically, the coming depression brought on by leftist Democrats could provide the excuse for massive cutbacks. And, oops, the FBI got included.
If you challenge the FBI directly, you will be Daniel entering the lion’s den. I hope your religious faith is that strong.
The FBI will lock you up. The FBI will dig up your dead grandmother and lock her up. Americans remain in astounding denial, like Hannity, over what fascists now populate this institution.
Don’t even try.
I do agree Raptor, that’s why the sad fact is at this point there is ONLY ONE WAY any of this can even be fixed. AND that’s been the way throughout history any meaningful change has taken place. A La 1776 and many more examples throughout history.
“..Ala 1776..”? …… You ‘agree’ with Raptor? ……. Your comment is contradictory. Raptor recommends ‘lying down’ …… bending a knee and hoping ‘somebody else’ will do something. …….. It wasn’t ‘somebody else’ at the Concord Bridge, it was patriots. …….. Wait for the ‘cavalry’ and you will be severely disappointed.
They can’t lock up everybody, UNLESS most cower in fear as you suggest.
Do to the FBI, what they do to innocent Americans.
Indeed Raptor, I commented on another post of today as to how should I, as a mere citizen, respond to the vaunted fbi when they are banging on my door in full battle kit to make an example out of me to those who the interloper despises. My faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is strong and I hope that the “dark side” now in control of our lives is soon to be vanquished by His Holy Vengeance.
“how should I, as a mere citizen, respond to the vaunted fbi when they are banging on my door in full battle kit to make an example out of me”
Substitute the “fbi” with the Colonial British Army, and give that a rethink.
“In the name of King Biden, open this door.”
Please explain how effectively that ‘faith’ has protected the several thousand years’ genocides of millions. Soothing to have such a faith, but so far, no results.
You would do well to go research how Jesus’s Apostles died. Jesus is not going to save you from a corrupt FBI. I’d put my faith in Smith & Wesson, Ruger, etc.
Patriots need to ban together and when one patriot is being targeted others are coming to their rescue or obtaining someone/something of value to swap. Yes, they’ll call us whatever tyrants call patriots that defy them. Who cares?
“The FBI will lock you up. The FBI will dig up your dead grandmother and lock her up.”
Which is EXACTLY why the FBI needs to be taken down.
Defund the FBI.
Ask yourself – what, precisely, is the moral boundary that stops the FBI from committing ANY crime they want ?
Power Corrupts and the FBI is absolutely Corrupt.
The ‘defunding’ will only happen if the November results are honest and favorable to Patriots, and THEN only if the subsequent ‘actions’ are ‘accomplished’.
When the Australian police were terrorizing and beating their fellow citizens for demonstrating against the Covid lockdowns, I said that someone knows someone who is a police officer and that the people should be protesting against their families. It is hard for police to do their Nazi tactics while worrying about their families at the same time. Of course the people never did anything like that and continued to get beaten up. The same goes here, someone knows someone who is and FBI agent. I will leave it at that. But at the end of the day: War is War and should be fought with any and all tactics available.
Start taking names. And addresses. Or you will be living in China sooner than you think.
Recall what ‘they’ did when they were out of power. Return the favor?
Shifty Schiff called the 2020 election, “the first non peaceful transfer of power in our history,” pretending not to know what President Trump’s inauguration day was like in Washington DC, January 2017:
A full-scale riot of DNC and Democrat activists ensued; including looting, arson and destroyed property while Hollyweird/DNC activists put genitalia on their heads and screamed bloody murder. It continued for four years.
They made it hell on earth for President Trump to govern—Specious Counsel, endless Impeachments, rogue judges, a stolen election, a contemptible Congress, an FBI and DOJ wholly owned subsidiaries of the Ruling Party genuflected before Hillary Clinton and took a knee before BLM.
In the beginning, they were wore funny hats, threatened to burn down the White House and held up a severed heads in effigy. They shot a Congressman, broke a Senator’s ribs, harassed a press secretary and her children at dinner, chased ordinary citizens from restaurants along with other elected and appointed officials.
They surrounded a media journalist’s home, stole MAGA hats from kids, defamed one kid as racist…and paid a price. They beat up flag wavers, doxxed and censored truth tellers..the list is endless. Where were these animals who would not fill the empty circles at Biden and Harris rallies…Were they stuffing ballots?…trafficking votes? We know the answer to that.
The same mob, spurred by leftist politicians, who in all likelihood were criminally elected, emptied the jails, ended bale, de-funded the police, and arrested citizens who were defending themselves and their property. They killed a security guard, were killing cops, and seizing cities…Seattle and Portland.
For months cities were looted and burned. For months Rioting mobs were characterized as peaceful protesters by complicit media. The same media assassins and Congress stooges would later portray the patriotic Capitol protest as a Hun invasion.
They are the same Godless vermin who tried to burn down that church in front of the White House, the same bullies who tried to seize the White House, harassed people leaving its gates, tore down city statues, and painted graffiti on it’s leading avenues.
The same mindless goons who were paid to celebrate Biden’s phony victory in the streets would have been burning down the cities again if President Trump was declared the winner. Democrats used their militant mobs to threaten us and they used them to steal an election.
So where do the masterminds, media, tech, and Hollwierd activists eat? In what restaurants or clubs do they gather? Where do they live? Where do they sleep? How can we bankrupt them?
Since the Anti-American ‘institutions’ and ‘elites’ have turned their surveillance machine against Pro-American Citizens of the USA can’t those same Citizens turn the tables against those seeking the destruction of America?
Can not every Pro-American Citizens put every ‘government’ worker that is employed by the American People under full time surveillance? Most, if not all, American Patriots possess a mobile device that can be used to video tape and upload to the web every activity of our employees that takes place in the public square. This is just another measure of civil disobedience that can be used to bring our grievances before those that represent us. Civil disobedience must become more and more intrusive and disruptive of the federal regime being able to continue doing anything and everything that they choose to do. States must start reclaiming their proper Federalist roles that have been abdicated to the Federal government.
Sooner or later the regime will have to make a choice. Either they will choose to capitulate or they will choose to follow the path taken by the British at the founding of this nation.
that is what needs to be done but people on our side have jobs to tend to
It’s really no wonder these pieces of trash couldn’t be bothered to stop a sexual predator molesting little girls, they were way to busy manufacturing evidence of things that didn’t exist to frame PDT and protect the criminal corruption of the Kenyan
They are the predators.
Weissmann was all over msnbc today.
NYTimes published an oped by him today.
They continue to publish op-eds by Lawfare leaders without disclosing that, in fact, the writer is not only biased, he is leading the effort against the former President.
New America will have to break up the Media/Internet Monopoly. They all sing from the same song sheet.
by the book, by the book I tell yahs.
They didn’t say which book?
When we accuse them of being liars, they swear they are telling the truth. Maybe if we accuse them of telling the truth they will admit they are liars.
I caught a DemocRat the other day telling the truth. When I told him what he was saying was true, at that point realizing his mistake he tried to lie his way out of it.
As for me, I am over the drama. I don’t want hearings, I don’t want to know who did what to whom, the when, where, or how. All of that, is moot. I just want the DOJ’s funding cut to about 1/10th the size it is currently, so that Federal Prisons are maintained and a very small contingent of Federal Marshalls can remain employed. The rest of the abomination that is called the Department of Just Us can be defunded and permanently eliminated. That includes the nefarious and disgustingly corrupt FBI who carries itself as the sole unelected arbiter of national elections. They have spied, lied, coerced and intimidated. They have committed acts of espionage on the American people. They have committed subversion, sedition and treason against America. No more discussions are warranted. The DOJ and FBI collectively are the black jacket boot of tyranny and must be eliminated if we are to remain a free country. They are AMERICA’S GESTAPO. They are TRASH.
NOTHING you said is wrong.
Roger that, brother.
Right the hell on!
Yes, shut it down. All of it.
Good copy!
The problem is who in the Republican Party will do this even if they control both Houses. The woman journalist from the NY Post who broke the story on Hunter’s laptop was on Steve Bannon’s show on Friday and she is going to put out the names of the FBI agents who have been involved in these political witch hunts the last 4 to 5 years. That would be very interesting to see just who are these agents doing this and is it always the same ones.
We The People outnumber these Nazis by the millions.
Yes defund the traitors, but I need to see those who were at the top levels that ordered all of it hanging by a rope.
The fisc court was the check and they did not do their job. They rubber stamped this junk. Why are there zero investigations into the corruption within the federal judiciary? Roberts appointed these judges. He also still hasn’t found the scotus leaker. Let that sink in
The FISC, can’t be a check on anything.
Since it is secret, there cannot be any adversarial process such as normally is used in courts to determine the truth of a matter.
The FISC is totally dependent on the DOJ/FBI. The judges are mushrooms, kept in the dark and buried in manure. They can’t independently check anything. Just whether or not the i’s were dotted and the t’s were crossed in the manure that is a warrant application.
The FISC are fulltime judges with this duty heaped on top of the duties of their full-time job. They don’t have the time to quibble over these warrants.
And, most tellingly, they have no power should they catch out the DOJ/NSD in the lies. None whatsoever.
All sorts of Bill of Rights and Constitutional violations would happen if you tried to hold anyone in contempt. Everything is secret. The trial would have to be secret. Who could serve as a juror? The prosecutors would be from your secret coworkers. The punishment secret.
Hell, Collyer writes a report complaining about violations. Then her successor Boasberg writes two more similar complaints over similar violations. Nothing ever gets fixed. The abuses just keep on coming. And there is nothing the FISC can do about it.
Makes me wonder if there is something bad that would happen should the FISC unite in protest and refuse to approve any more warrants until things are fixed. Not that they would be told the truth about any fixes. Just like they aren’t told the truth about past “fixes”.
The FISC is obviously falling down on its job. It could and should be doing all kinds of stuff to police it’s affiants – such as appointing special masters to investigate – issue show cause and contempt order. Issuing orders referring judicial findings for demotion/disbarment/the IG/etc. Issuing orders that so and so shall never appear or swear to any filing in the FISC court ever again. Issuing orders barring certain contractors and person from access to the patriot database. But just look with the FISC court did to Kliensmith, whom knowing doctored evidence and submitted it under oath to the ex parte secret court? Nothing basically – like a 6 month suspension of this law license? And then we find out that the FISA court approves something crazy like 99 percent of the applications AND DOES NOT EVEN HOLD HEARINGS. And then we find out the DOJ is using failure to register under FARA as the predicate for surveillance but if you do register then that can be a predicate too?
Robert’s is a liberal in conservative clothing! Our country is in trouble and most people chose to ignore what is going on or simply naive and don’t want to believe it!
Let’s be clear. Roberts knows who the SCOTUS leaker is. He hasn’t released the identity to anyone outside the immediate circle. That is different from not finding.
Roberts is the “original” mole.
Researched, vaunted, groomed, blackmailed. Anyone else remember the
stories about Roberts in Newsweek and the like when he was appointed?
Not a word of criticism. No crazy women in costumes from TV shows protesting.
No beach friends. Just flattery.
Not very frequently discussed, but the MSM has actually made it easier for
us to figure out who the double agents are. It’s absurdly simple. They are the
alleged “Republicans”, “Conservatives” who they NEVER criticize. Of if they
do, it’s piddly shit ( as we used to say on the playground).
I learned this lesson well observing Atlanta and Georgia politics for 30 years.
Anyone that the Atlanta Journal Constitution and Cox communications never
criticized, villified, badmouthed that was Republican was damaged goods.
Bought and sold. Johnny Isaakson being a good example.
The exact same thing is true on a national level.
Nor will he, Phil. He hasn’t bothered looking, or more than likely he knows.
When one understands every single person in government, no matter in what branch, is cut from the same corrupt cloth, every question is answered.
Regarding Trump there is no Congressional oversight worth a dime.
FBI is doing the work for Dem and Repub Party and therefore will be protected.
FBI still holding Biden laptop as collateral.
And what happened to the Weiner/Abadin laptop?
..containing the auto cloud update of the Hillary Clinton email accounts. The FBI has the 33,000 “like, wiped with cloth?” emails from the bathroom server..
Given that there certainly are multiple copies in DC of all classified documents, both paper and digital, it cannot be possible that the Junta’s raid was to procure documents they didn’t already have. That leaves the motive: removing incriminating documents from PDT’s possession. But even that – surely PDT did (does) not keep sole copies (paper or digital) only at Mar-a-Lago, and certainly the Deep State knows that.
Is possession (somewhere…) of incriminating evidence PDT’s insurance against assassination? The game being played here is still unclear. Also, what if PDT possesses not just the Russiagate evidence, but irrefutable evidence of the 2020 election heist…?
At least there is the silver lining of the Junta displaying not only their desperation, but their stupidity. These may be very bad people, but they are not Grand Masters at political chess…
This is the National Security Division.
So tell me, when the FBI recruited Carter Page to help them spy on Russian spies, was the DOJ-NSD not involved?
That happened in 2013. The spies were sentenced in 2016. We convicted and sentenced Russians spying on the US, through the help of Carter Page. And the entire FBI and DOJ forget about that and call him a spy!
That doesn’t quite cover the enormity of their crime. They didn’t forget. They used it as proof Page was in contact with Russian spies so they could knowingly and falsely accuse Page of being a spy, so they could spy on Trump.
And the DOJ-NSD didn’t know?
How many times did the CIA tell the FBI Page helped them? And the DOJ-NSD didn’t know? That definitely would have happened in 2013! As well as the many times during Crossfire Hurricane.
I dug up this recap and spotted somethings I missed before.
Flashback: Real Carter Page vs. the One People Suspect | RealClearInvestigations
The FBI and DOJ spy prosecutors met around March 2016 when the spy pled guilty.
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Evgeny Buryakov pleaded guilty to espionage-related charges on March 11, 2016. FBI agents, as well as federal prosecutors, huddled with Page around that time to tie up loose ends, he said. “It had absolutely nothing to do with the election interference story, which surfaced months later,” Page said.
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But this was even more telling:
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Page cooperated as a witness in that case, which was coordinated with the bureau’s Counterespionage Section Chief Peter Strzok in Washington,
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That is right. Strzok was part of the operation using Page against the Russian spies.
Carter Page was a source for the CIA from 2008-2013, helped the FBI catch and convict Russian spies from 2013-2016. And the DOJ-NSD joined the FBI in covering up the truth so that they could lie about him to the FISC. And they continued these lies in that letter.
Strzok is a piece of 💩!
He’s a psycho. He interacted with Page, who is, indeed ,
a strange bird.
The fact that Page was strange, weird, unlikeable ( by Strzok’s standards)
was enough to place him on Strzok’s short list of people to use and
send downriver when the occasion arose.
The occasion arose with the “Russia, Russia, Russia” frame up being assembled.
Carter Page had dealings with Russia. Strzok had had dealings with Carter Page,
and found him to be, basically, a weird asshole.
Strzok, being completely bereft of morals, found that enough to help the framing
begin. The fact that it was a weird dude that he couldn’t stand was icing on the cake
for him.
100% agree!
See my separate comment below on an even more obvious notice of Carter Page’s assitance to the CIA (and as you say, the NSD of the DOJ) – Page’s public letter to Comey of Aug 26, 2016 three days after the public birth of RussiaGate with Isakoff’s Steele Dossier sourced article of lies in Yahoo News about Page.
As you point out above, it was even worse. The FBI used Page’s being a cooperative witness, against him – as in, see, he has contact with Russian spies! It is so ridiculous and an insult to the public’s intelligence. We actually pay the salaries of these people. And we will end up paying for the massive judgment that Page will win in his civil litigation.
Ah, yes. Isikoff.
David Korn enters the room. What’s the chances that the FBI dealt with them
(and Mother Jones) longggggg before Trump? Look at all the tasty October surprising
those two did way before Trump. Also, look at how the set ups for their October surprises
just leapt into their laps.
What agency that we’ve been talking abouts M.O. is that?
Find some dirt on someone that you want to dirty up, and have the press standing by,
conveniently.
And, let’s not let Yahoo News off the hook. Notice their instantaneous, damage control
team that leaps into action whenever anything benefitting the little guy threatens their
masters? Twitter isn’t the only group that the FIB has pow wows with.
Perhaps the primary sub source was deemed credible in the FISA application because he initially refuted as hearsay, barroom chatter … that needed to be treated with a grain of salt “information” Steele attributed to him;-}
“I strongly suggest everyone read the 14-pages slowly.”
Sure, I’ll do that, and then I’ll hit my head against a brick wall 14 times because that’ll be less painful than knowing how abysmally corrupt this country is and understanding what it will take to restore it to anywhere close to the constitutional principles and laws it was founded upon.
As someone here once said, something about ‘Live your best life.’, spoken after they returned from ‘outside the wire’.
Excellent- my feelings exactly.
Corruption buys time and time presents options but Their time in power is soon at an end ….
I will get coffeed up and read this later. At the moment I can’t get past seeing “The Honorable” in front of the names of people with not a shred of honor in them. Judges, congressmen and women, senators, department heads…all who took an oath on the Bible.
I can feel the bile rising…and I need to take a cleansing bath.
…but I will leave this from Breibart this morning…headline…
“BILL BARR: FBI DID NOTHING WRONG–‘Tired of’ Right’s ‘Constant Pandering to Outrage’
I’m out of words…
That was my initial thought as well, Betsy. “The Honorable?” WTH? Appears the “Dis-” was omitted.
Yes, jonesy… that ‘Honorable’ thingy, like many others that used to have real meaning, has had me scoffing for a long time.
Language is powerful. It has been corrupted in ways I believe that are unfixable. Debauched and degraded. There are so many examples, but “honourable” is perhaps the worst.
“We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.”
~~CS Lewis~~
True then, even truer now.
Thanks for bringing all this information again as all your research and pulling it altogether might be far back in our memories or new to those that have joined recently. It is important as a foundation to clarify current FBI, FISA, and DoJ actions/non-actions as it all ties together their intentional cover ups and corruption.
No one better at ‘pulling it all together’, than Sundance & Crew.
Oh how I wish Sundance could somehow become a close advisor to PT.
The evidence presented of institutional corruption is clear. The solutions to remove the corruption is clear. Recognizing those people ready, willing, and able to do something is our dilemma.
The captors have embedded themselves into the public and private organizations and stand as gate keepers defending the fortress from the hoi polio.
Trump was catapulted into the fortress in 2016 because the sentry’s were drunk on their own delusions of grandeur. Recognizing the threat to their existence they all converged on Trump like white blood cells on foreign substance. They were able to flush Trump and have now fortified the walls awaiting a counter attack.
The captors are sending out modern day versions of Benedict Arnold cloaked in MAGA dress to help weaken the coming 2024 attack. The vessel’s are neatly packaged with the appropriate brands to convince the following of their legitimacy.
We must demand that all wishing to carry the MAGA banner be willing to be subject to absolute scrutiny. And reject the howling of the abductors as the empty containers undergo inspection.
That is all that Sundance is doing to Ron DeSantis. Those moaning the scrutiny are only enabling the captors to retain power.
Yes.
what else happened in mid 2018?
oh yeah paul and his bushies were all bought to usher in fun times with nanzi.
Every time I see Paul Ryan I see Ellen Degeneres. I swear they look like twins or twinks.
It is up to us, ‘We the People’, to squeeze them, to apply the pressure. …. We, the majority, have sat dormant far too long, and the evil has gotten too comfortable with that. …….. Democrats and RINO’s have allowed the CCP to infiltrate our country via ‘bribery, blackmail and/or physical threats’, while they milk us of all our wealth, not to mention ‘steal our elections’. ……. Where do you think ALL this money being borrowed and sent to Ukraine is ending up? …….. In the pockets of our politicians AND their donors. ……….. Like it or not, admit it or not, we are at war. ……. In war, there are 3 categories of people: 1. The warriors 2. Those who assist the warriors 3. Those who do nothing. ………. We have too many freeloaders in category #3. …….. Which one are you?
If you think the FBLie is corrupt? It’s the model for Dems woke diversity revenge steal everything, in every state, investigate everything & everybody agency. Leave no piggy bank unbroken! Even in Red States! Look no further than GBI in Georgia, the state is ran out of Atlanta’s demoncrap’s derpstate.
What we have here. Is the transformation too Country Wide, Chicago Politics! We were promised it was coming in 2008. They use our tax-theft money to buy off or, force everyone in position of power. Our tax money brought US Worldwide liberals movements. Think on same day in every Western Country Libs put protest together and act uniformly Worldwide. Really think Ukraine is receiving our Billions of tax dollars. Countries aren’t receiving our Aid Dollars. It’s politicalized theft too there causes! Nope it’s all a sham. We The People are a laundromat for Demonkraut power & control. America is paying for almost everything worldwide, including our own destruction!
DOJ-NSD and the FBI must be shut down – it’s the most corrupt ever.
“It’s deja vu all over again” – Yogi Berra
The FBI has a long train of abuses by FBI Dir Robert Mueller
27 OCT 2008 – Sen. Ted Stevens found guilty on all 7 corruption counts
7 APR 2009 – Conviction Set Aside over Misconduct & Corruption
15 MAR 2012 – Govt Corruption Confirmed by Court-Ordered Investigation
“the prosecution of Senator Ted Stevens was riddled with government corruption involving multiple federal prosecutors and at least one FBI agent.. they worked together to win at all costs in an attempt to convict a sitting United States Senator in an ill-conceived prosecution.”
“As a direct result of the government’s corrupt conduct and the illegal verdict they obtained, Senator Stevens lost his bid for re-election to an eighth term in office. The citizens of Alaska lost their champion who had served them for 40 years, and the balance of power shifted in the United States Senate.“
Lather, Rinse, Repeat
Donald Trump, Michel Flynn, Roger Stone, Jan 6 Political Prisoners, and anyone and everyone that is not ‘them’.
The FBI and DOJ have become rabid dogs with only 1 cure
Thank you Sundance, I have downloaded the letter and will read it with a nice bourbon to make the reading palatable.
To believe that Trump would keep this allegedly HIGHLY incriminating evidence that he can use to reveal, halt, and perhaps punish the several vey powerful criminals is not unreasonable. I’d keep it and hope to be able to use it. If that were his intentions, as we are told, he would have shared this info with his legal team and discussed strategies for it’s potential use. That much seems intuitively obvious. To think that there would be multiple copies of the material seems almost necessary if more than one person were to be involved with Trump in studying the info and planning its use. I’d hire several people to work on that strategy. They’d all need copies and they’d all be very clearly aware of the crucial sensitivity and danger those documents represent.
Since all of those components are needed for any of this to make sense we then need ask, would any skilled lawyer allow Trump to keep the material at home knowing that his enemies could always get a search warrant? Absolutely NOT. Most businessmen have been in legal possession of very sensitive materials, I have, and lawyers always keep those materials safeguarded. They don’t leave them in your home, and I’ve been warned to give my legal team every last shred. Nothing wrong with that…just the way things are done.
For that matter, WHY would Trump even want to keep the docs at home? What would he need them for? ANYTHING they would ever be used for would originate from lawyer’s offices, and they would need the docs, not Trump.
So, to me, an average, retired, highly educated, successful former corporate CEO, the existence of documents proving high crimes among many Government officials seems very possible. That Trump would want to use them to bring justice, is consistent with what we all have seen of him. That his targets would know that they are criminally vulnerable and at substantial risk is inherent if the other thoughts are true. But to think Trump would make it easy for them to take the docs, and that there is only one discoverable copy laying around a closet at Mar-a-Lago requires us to believe that Trump is afflicted with some serious mental disorder. Maybe he is, but I doubt it.
All of which says to me the reason for the raid was not related to what is being discussed here. I think it is much more likely the FBI (for the Biden controllers) were looking for some of Trump’s unpublished PEADs, or for recent communication Between Trump and those helping him, of for whatever documentation Trump has of the many other crimes of the all the co-conspirators. The warrant was a mere pretext for many hours of searching for lots of things not coverable by a warrant.
The problem isn’t the evidence. The problem is that the evidence – of tyranny and criminality – is never acted upon, and that this farce is strictly enforced by a complicit media. Evidence has been plain as day for years, but no one cares – nor will they.
So many of our elected ‘leaders’ are complicit – look at the nonexistent response from the GOPe to this corruption. Strongly worded letters and utterances do not get results.
The Master Will Settle His Account with Them
Matthew 25:14-30
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
2 Corinthians 5:10
If indeed the FBI is purging all this incriminating proof then this source and other sources like it will also be purged Everyone who visited this site is now involved. The Last Refudge needs a plan to secure the receipts.
The number of actors in this corrupt tale make it hard to keep them straight, aligned with the dates, what is happening, and who is doing what. They are so interconnected. Thank you for giving us so much information in streamlined form, but I keep having to go back and read the last paragraph and then find who is what and when.
The bottom line is that they are corrupt to the core and have done things that should be prosecuted as criminal. Then they sought, and are still seeking, to cover up their crimes and corruption.
Sundance… thanks for the reminders… I recall your initial postings covering all of this. Sickening/frustrating stuff. Thanks for your persistence.
Sundance, I have written you about this before wrt to your prior postings on this July 12, 2018 DOJ-NSD letter.
The criminal corruption of the FBI in the four Carter Page FISA warrant applications is clearly evident for a simple and very public reason that occurred very early on – Page’s one page public letter to Comey on Aug 26, 2016 where he called out the lie of charges against him of being in cahoots with the Russians, in closing referring to the fact he had even been a cooperating source for the CIA against a Russian spy. https://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/09/26/Editorial-Opinion/Graphics/2016.09.25_FBI_letter.pdf
Josh Rogin of WaPo wrote a column the same day about this and his interview with Page. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/09/26/trumps-russia-adviser-speaks-out-calls-accusations-complete-garbage/
Forget about Clinesmith altering a CIA email on this same matter 9 mos later in connection with the fourth FISA application.
How could Comey sign off on the first application, or any of his minions fail to followup on Page’s contention and check it out, with this on the public record? Page was never contacted by the FBI, never interviewed as he offered. Instead he was wiretapped. This is so unbeleivable. And so basic.
Russiagate is very complex, interwoven, and hard to understand for the general public.
This Aug 26 Page letter is so basic. All the actions and failures that followed indicate it was intentionally ignored because the FBI had an agenda and a false narrative to pursue for politically partisan reasons. It is easy to understand this from this letter.
Page wrote his letter three days after the public birth of RussiaGate with Michael Isakoff’s Yahoo News Story. I am sure Page thought his resignation from the campaign (for which he had hardly done anything) and this letter to Comey would bring a swift end to it all. After all, he was a good guy. Instead 4 times the FBI certified to the FISA Court that there was probable cause that Page was the agent of a foreign power. Think about how really crazy that is…just as Trump being a Russian agent was so ridiculous a notion from the get go.
Why hasn’t this letter been hung aroung Comey’s (and the FBI’s) neck? It is not too late, but I never see it mentioned.
In explaining this to the public, you need to follow the KISS principle. This letter is that simple.
You are doing a good job of explaining another simple fact – that the FBI knew from very early on that the Steele Dossier was as Carter Page told Josh Rogin – “complete garbage”. The FBI interviewed Danchenko on Jan 12, 2017 – two days after BuzzFeed published the SD, and new it was crap then and again in March that it was “bar talk among friends”. Yet the FBI said nothing – silence. This is very easy for the public to get. Keep hammering on it. Hopefully this theme will be repeated by many as the Danchenko trial gets underway here shortly. Don’t get lost in the weeds.
One of your sentences, about Page resigning from the Trump campaign, reminded me of the one reason why I’m still unsure if he was or wasn’t working for the FBI: he kept in contact with the Trump campaign. That contact allowed the FBI to wiretap Trump’s team and Trump himself via the 2 hops rule. If Page had just gone off to do something else and never contacted Team Trump anymore, it would have been so much better.
The second thing that still makes me uncomfortable was that Page knew Stefan Halper, the same guy who tried to entrap Papadopoulos. Page visited Halper on Halper’s farm near DC in August 2016, shortly before the first FISA warrant was activated, and continued meeting with Halper into 2017.
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Page resigned from the Trump campaign on July 22 2016, and the very next month he was hanging with Halper. WTH?
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Congress will do nothing because the FBI or whoever knows where all the dead bodies are buried of each and every Congressmen just like in Hoover’s era. They allowed it to happen again only twice as bad since it is now affiliated with foreign enemies. Our only chance is hiring as many MAGA candidates as we can. And we can help by going to those individual MAGA candidates sites and DONATE. If those that vote do not know what its all about by now, their vote is useless anyway. We must vote in person and enmass. Volunteer at the polls and stand your ground.
On page #8 when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, the DOJ notes the FBI found him to be truthful and cooperative.
Yah, and even regarding Steele himself, even though Steele ticked off the FBI so much they ended their relationship with him (because he blabbed to the press despite being warned not to) and he was obviously overly-emotional about Trump possibly winning the election, the FBI still considered Steele a reliable source!
So there was a crap sub-source and an impetuous source … and it led to the wiretapping of Carter Page and everyone within 2 hops of Page which includes all of the Trump team including Trump himself. For much of the time while Trump was the President of the United States. THIS IS APPALLING.
And Bruce Ohr, wow. A friend of Steele who was working with Simpson who hired Ohr’s wife Nellie, a Russian translator translating Russian dirt from Russians, and I remember she got that HAM radio license right around that time.
And then “We’ll stop him!” adulterers Strzok and Page.
If there are any good people in the FBI they must be absent from the top 5 levels of management. I pray Trump runs again and does a completely thorough cleanout of the FBI and other agencies. I honestly don’t think any other GOP President has the guts to do it, with the exception of Jim Jordan.
Considering comments below (above?), the politicians aren’t the problem, it’s the people that keep blindly voting them into office. They need an awakening. One way or the other.
Unless someone comes up with a better plan …
In primaries, vote to remove RINOs if you can. In general elections, vote all-Republican to oust Dems and attain/maintain majorities. Keep repeating every 2 years.
Stupid people lost the GOP majority in the House in 2018, and then lost the GOP majority in the Senate in 2020. That doesn’t help! Stupid people need to wake the h up. Everything is ALWAYS worse when Dems are in control.
And if Trump does run again we need to support him! We aren’t going to support him by giving him Dem majorities in 2022 and 2024, that’s going to set him up for non-stop persecution like he went through from Jan 2019 onward.