Bunker boy Ron DeSantis has completed five days of silence and is scheduled to re-emerge tomorrow in Arizona as part of the TPUSA national tour. Those of you who have walked the deep weeds of national politics, know exactly what is happening. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has entered the managing phase of the GOPe candidate process.
[The TLDR version is HERE] – The well-liked Florida Governor has remained silent and invisible for five days, ever since the FBI raid against President Trump at Mar-a-Lago, in West Palm Beach, Florida. {Go Deep} The governor of the state has said nothing and avoided any opportunity where he may have been asked for comment. Instead, he has transmitted two pre-recorded statements from the bunker.
The silence is deafening transparency for those who accept how the professional republican club operates; the key word is “accept.” Unfortunately, there is a jaw-dropping amount of denial. We are seeing the outcome of Ron DeSantis being professionally managed by the GOPe club.
Now we move into the phase of re-branding where risks are mitigated, and positions are modified. Earlier today, while still in the bunker, DeSantis’ press secretary Christina Pushaw announced her exit.
As the rebranding takes shape, Ms. Pushaw is now moved away from the principle (that’s Ron) and becomes a part of the campaign team.
(FLORIDA) – Christina Pushaw, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Press Secretary, departed her administrative role Friday to join the Republican Governor’s re-election campaign.
The Florida Standard, a conservative new media outlet, was the first to report Pushaw’s shuffle and published her resignation letter, which Pushaw sent to Chief of Staff James Uthmeier and Director of Administration Dawn Hanson on Friday. She will become the campaign’s Director of Rapid Response beginning Monday.
Deputy Press Secretary Bryan Griffin will step in as lead Press Secretary on Monday, where he will report directly to Communications Director Taryn Fenske. (more)
DeSantis has no primary challenger, so the club timing right on schedule. He emerges from the bunker with a few weeks to break in the new alliance, new team, new campaign motive and new brand image. Bold becomes pastel. Tomorrow the GOPe club kick-off the relaunch through the aligned TPUSA organization, which they have now taken control by purchasing Charlie Kirk. Remember, in club politics it’s the money that changes things.
The script will follow the customary mapping. DeSantis will start a national enhanced branding effort, increased exposure to unfamiliar audiences, and simultaneously absorb the MAGA aspect the GOPe need. MAGA bona fides will come from appearances with names like Kari Lake and Blake Masters, under the auspices of endorsements.
On its face, it is supposed to look like DeSantis is endorsing Kari Lake and Blake Masters, two strong MAGA candidates. However, the actual club motive is to transfer the MAGA currency of Lake and Masters into the pocket of DeSantis.
The club gets much more out of it than Lake or Masters. The club gets the stealth benefits that people never pay attention to. This is part of the brand image for DeSantis and club strategy.
Whether Ron DeSantis knew of the DC/FBI targeting effort before Monday is a moot point. What DeSantis did know was that this week a new branding effort would begin. It started with the “Dear Governor DeSantis” commercials. The subtle shift is to nudge him out of Florida politics into a more prominent national role
All of this is coordinated by the national club. Nothing is just random, but the presentation to the voters must retain the illusion of choice.
Everything now is about club branding and club management. That’s why I knew four days ago that Pushaw would depart, and I started to deliver statements on Twitter toward that end. Many people became upset. However, I do not take such a severe position, as I did on Monday, without overlaying all of the data-points we have assembled. I know it sometimes shocks people, they get mad at me, but as you watch it you will see it unfold. This is simply how the club operates.
It’s not DeSantis fault per se’. He doesn’t really have many options. He holds no independent wealth to keep the club away from influence.
DeSantis is being managed now. He’s shifted into the Pence, Jeb, Haley, professional wing of the club. Things change. He’s accepting GOPe grooming (bunker silence). Simultaneously risks are distanced (Pushaw departs official orbit), proximity mitigation. It really is just a mgmt/branding effort.
Now he will begin a national tour. A book (written for him) is looming. The pattern never changes.
The “professionals” will now enter the picture. The orbit of DeSantis will be more controlled. Representatives will come from the professional political class. Speeches and remarks will be filtered and approved. Risks will be mitigated. Control mechanisms in place. However, the illusion of authenticity must be retained. This is the club weak point (see Cruz and Haley). This is what the club will try to modify with DeSantis and Kristi Noem.
At first, whenever DeSantis reemerges – likely tomorrow, you will notice a subtle shift, perhaps an awkwardness. A slight change in the authenticity you used to love. A more careful and deliberate speech pattern. Longer thoughts before responses. More appearances on Fox News. Brett Baier et al, w/ the assist.
The technique is Norman Rockwell (optics) and Ward Cleaver (tones), soft hues and gentlemanly pastels.
Club branding is subtle on the image front, but very clear on the substantive messaging side. Social issues selected to maximize camp coalition, and influence base.
Consistently present political messaging where the republican voter base can say “yes.” Keep the “yes” messaging at the forefront (social emphasis). Focus on values. Schools, kids, safety, woke pushback, media bias etc, keep the audiences nodding yes. Ultimately, it’s a sales technique. Identify with the target to influence their decisions.
Issues around multinational & corporate economics, hard lines, foreign policy, all these things must be avoided – except in general terms. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is not to be challenged, not really. Keep the message social and build the emotional connection. It is harder to break an emotional bond than a logical or cognitive bond.
These are the political techniques of Lee Atwater that still make up the bulk of the GOPe club playbook. The greatest skill of the professionally republican is to present the illusion of choice in such a way as the voters do not see it.
Keep in mind, back in Washington DC both clubs are collaborating on the Trump removal program because both clubs’ benefit.
If we watch closely, we will see a MAGA-lite, professionally controlled republican go from five-days as a pupa (now) to chrysalis (next), to national club butterfly.
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Hi Karl.
Deleted, after rereading the article. 👍🏼
It’s like when you find out Santa Claus isn’t real.
Very obvious now. No question about it.
I’ve been trashed for years for saying DeDantis was a wait-and-see, not MAGA.
I almost fell for it along the way myself, once, but @Sundance helped keep me grounded.
Trump is the only one who can take on the Leviathan. He’s the only one who even WILL.
Rove Rove Rove your boat!
I CANNOT ABIDE ROVE!!!
Karl Rove. Eff you, Karl.
Thank you for the clarification. My mind immediately went to Karl Mark but then….
Marx/Rove eh, not much difference.
Can’t wait to hear Never-Trumper Herr Rove have a hissy fit again on Fox News when Trump wins the 2024 election.
Still following corporate/woke media like FoxNews?
We have not watched Fox for one minute in years!
Following? That was 2016! Last time I checked I’m on the most MAGA, America First, Conservative, Intellectual site there is: The Last Refuge! You sound like a lefty troll who loves to censor.
Cruz must be pissed he is being passed over again.
I think we’ll find those PT slayed in 2016, will stay slayed, aren’t viable
The Fredo Corleone of the GoPe.
I really have never understood how Mr Constitution thinks he qualifies as a Natural Born Citizen. My fear with Cruz is he gets the nomination and then in August the Dems take him out for not be qualified
You mean like Osama and Harris who are 14th amendment citizens and nothing was done ?
Ozero ONLY if he was really born in HI, is a 14th Amendment citizen…..KamelToe is NOT as her parents were both TEMPORARY residents here on student visas
Thank you.
Cruz may be trotted out as needed by the GOPe to insure their candidate is selected.
Cruz is not eligible by his own words in 2008.
As Cruz said if indeed Obama was not born in Hawaii, he is not eligible for POTUS!!
Well Cruz was born in Canada on Canadian soil.
Cruz was also born to TWO Canadian parents……Canadian voter rolls list them both in Aug 1971…..Ted was born in Oct 1971
I guess Ted discovered that he has two sides of his mouth to speak from.
He hasn’t lost his loser crown since the ‘16 RNC convention, and, he never will.
Cruz is a CANADIAN….he IS, WAS, and will ALWAYS be ineligible to be POTUS or VP….he is currently ILLEGALLY occupying a US Senate seat from TX since it requires you to be a US citizen…….no CRBA or naturalization papers mean he ISN’T one
Someone needs to file a lawsuit challenging his eligibility to serve in federal office. If he is not a citizen and has no “green card” he is also a criminal immigrant. However, his father was a CIA asset, so like Obama, perhaps Ted is an intel community stooge. Kind of a GOP Obama.
His “Club O” loyalties are too evident to MAGA folks. Hence, it seems that he has capped out as a senator. Let’s hope the good MAGA people of Texas find a true patriot to replace him.
I was a big Desantis fan, but my very first reaction, to the MAR raid was: This is Desantis’ moment to show if he is real. He isn’t.
So the Desantis game is this:
Gut the MAGA movement then wear it like a skin suit.
Pick up the President DJT/MAGA gun, point it at the head of the GOPe… and he can extort them for money and power… as long as he promises to be a good boy establishment shill from here on out.
Of course the skin suit stays put.. to fool you.
I honestly think MAGA people will know the Real from Counterfeit MAGA candidate. He will fall flat on his face next to 45.
Now we MUST hold Kari Lakes’ feet to the fire.
Her TPUSA speech will be critical.
But we won’t really know until her moment, her Martin Luther (not King) moment arrives after she holds power.
She has invoked God at many of her moments.
I pray for her soul if it was fake. And I would not want to be her on judgement day if she is pulling a Desantis.
Here I thought TPUSA was a good thing…
Sigh. It is so damned hard to keep up.
Our best hope is that DeSantis stays in Florida and has to up his MAGA game to even stay viable longer term. He just missed the 2024 boat for VP .
Really good point. But I have lost faith, and this treachery won’t be forgotten.
Traitor within the walls…….the worse kind.
I’ve always felt this with DeSantis and I’ve tried to tell as many people as I could. You can just see them laying the foundation to either split Trumps base or try to take it over completely.
But when I started seeing Dave Rubin promote DeSantis over Trump I knew for sure. I like to watch a lot of different online personalities from Steven Crowder to Jimmy Door and the Young terks.
This subtle push for DeSantis started to pop up everywhere in the last few months.
Just wait until they start pushing the “Trump fatigue” angle. Particularly if a sham indictment is handed down.
I sure hope so… even worse and tiresome than “Trump fatigue” is the “two party system” facade..
What these idiots dont realize is that they are now driving full speed ahead in to the demolition derby of the so called Republican party…the smoldering wreckage will leave America an official single party dictatorship like the CCP.
Not so subtle from what I’ve seen.
I noticed also. I catch (well I did) a variety of on line personalities when I am trying to go to sleep at night. Officer Tatum is involved in TPUSA . Several months back he turned on PDJT and was promoting desantis to some extent He was excoriated in the comments. I never listened to him again. Do not be surprised if/when Candace Owens does the same. Dennis Praguer is a rino lover also.
I quit listening to any personalities now. I can’t stand any of their noise. I cut the cord after fox tried to take out then candidate Trump with Megan Kelly. When do we ever learn?
Now instead of listening to anything when trying to go to sleep….I just leave my lamp on, causing me to close my eyes to block the light. Ahhh….that does the trick, off to sleep I go. 😉
Yeah, he’s a Yalie.
Lots of compromised politicians from there, not just Skull and Bones.
Harvard and Yale.
NumbSkull and Broken Bones
I’m just hypothesizing , and hope I’m wrong but maybe he was made an offer to look the other way in exchange for support from the Rinos. They will try to convict Trump, maybe throw him in jail, and look who steps in to be the candidate.
I hope I’m wrong, but thanks to the corruption of our political system, I can’t help to be suspicious of everything
To modify an old Reaganism, first verify, then consider trusting. TBH, I don’t even trust a neighbor bringing me food. Or a car parked on the street. Everything human is suspect. Long life experience with humans impels that. The political system is only a reflection of us. Here we are.
Same as it ever was.
Nothing new under the sun.
Funny how the lyrics from the music of my youth still reverberates and is more pertinent then I ever considered. Especially 60’s and 70’s Hardcore British Rock, and Punk.
Prepare our families and dear friends.
My intuition senses real danger ahead.
Here in our sleepy, sedate and affluent Oceanside community in Greater Vancouver B.C.
Folks nerves are getting frayed…the wealthy are doing well..Range Rovers, Teslas, Jaguar S.U.V.s etc are plentiful.
However the underbelly is rotting..working folks are sinking fast.
Although once a very safe community. Two gangsters were shot dead at a local soccer field just last week.
A father high on meth was arrested just this afternoon after abducting his son.
At our younger sons high end townhouse complex after a 20 min code 4 pursuit that involved a police chopper
Junkies are now a common site…our local grocery store now has three full time guards.
We are not coming back from this sh*t show.
Our politicians are tools.
However..turning to God, family and the faith of one’s choosing will ensure a present and a future for those that do.
We pray more, are more discerning and a heckuva more cynical.
I was a 9.8. out of 10 previously a solid 9.9 now.
Cheers!
Retired Magistrate here: Yes, we need to pray to GOD that HE will have mercy on us. Keep your family and friends close, do what you can to make your local community a better place to live, stock up and prepare and be thankful for what you have today.
Please continue to pray for President Trump and his family. He has helped so many people get elected and what do they do-stab him in the back. President Trump tries to see the best in people and most people have used that character trait against him. President Trump is truly one of a kind and I don’t think we will see anyone else like him run for President.
Marcia, can you give your opinion on the Magistrate judge who signed the search warrant. Been wanting to ask for several days. Was your Magistrate position the equivalent of his?
Trump MADE DeSantis.
We don’t like disloyalty.
If you give me a Chamber puppet, I will work hard against you.
Especially disloyalty that directly concerns the continuance (recorvery) of America.
Ron didn’t just betray Trump he betrayed US.
Exactly 💯 💯
hysterical hyperbole
get a grip
I’ve posted several times that DeSantos said he wouldn’t run against 45, so, I’m convinced GOPe convinced DeSantos that 45 won’t be running.
a very ominous forethought
Yep
You might be right, but I think every time we have allowed ourselves to believe the best in someone when the reality seems to indicate otherwise, we find out we were wrong and it hurts.
I am now a “show me” person. I’m not going to make excuses for anyone’s actions. They are either on board with MAGA and the man who created MAGA or they can step aside and hang with the rest of the losers who will only win elections merely to keep Dems out, but will lose as soon as a better Republican comes along.
I took your approach decades ago when it comes to ANY politician
Hint: anyone who runs for public office is a politician, regardless of his or her background and promises on the campaign trail or once in office—yes, this includes Trump. They may or may not be swamp dwellers but they are all politicians.
You’re describing me to a T. Days of trust and hope for the best are long gone.
My default position has become “trust NO ONE”.
I will never vote for him now. He’s going to be just another puppet on strings being pulled by the beast.
I wouldn’t go that far.
He’s been bad, but even Trump has been supporting bigger, more marginal candidates to fill seats. What’s gone is trust even if there isn’t a divorce. Yet.
Well let’s hope all this disdain for Ron gets Florida to elect NIKKI Fried in November to replace him as Governor! Sure, she’s a democrat. Very liberal.
But really, Ron is bad, right? He must be stopped. We should definitely go blue here in Florida. His days are numbered! That will show him.
This is ignorant talk. Few are saying to defeat DeSantis as governor
of Florida. People who live there own him and can vote him in or out
as they please.
For those of you who have not been paying attention, many had surmised
that DeSantis could be a VP candidate with President Trump, learn the
ropes so-to-speak and then have an eight year term as president. That
would put MAGA in for 12 years which would hopefully be able to rid
our country of the evil cabal, deep state criminals.
The disappointment is in finding out that DeSantis, who was pulled over
the finish line for the governor race by no less than President Trump
himself, has stayed pretty much silent other than a milquetoast
statement about the illegal (yes, I said it) raid on Trump’s Florida home.
Do you get it now?
This is obvious, for those who exercise critical thinking skills, to be a
betrayal to both President Trump and MAGA, therefore, disqualifing
DeSantis to be a running mate of President Trump.
De Santis banned CRT from all Fla. schools;
he suspended the state AG for not following Fl. laws that didn’t go along with his woke ideology;
he terminated the tax breaks to Disney once it’s pedophilic tendencies were exposed.
But he’s not good enough for the Treepers/ Sheepers.
Critical thinking skills my ass
ah….your critical thinking skills should not be in your ass
wish I had a gov like de Santis-
CTH has become the site of a Sundance cult- no one who dissents with SD is tolerated.
We need to cut this off at the pass. Do not watch the Turning Point event. We need to play hard ball with these people.
I don’t really know who the real De Santis is because I only knew him AFTER he saw the MAGA style of blunt honesty.
I guess what I should say is I don’t know if he copied Trump or if his actual nature is similar to Trump’s forthright nature.
So, they may be unsuccessful in shaping him IF he is the guy we’ve seen for the last year. Basic natures tend to come to the fore.
However, if all he was doing was copying Trump, they may have success.
MAGA people know that if a candidate is actually going to be MAgA, he has to fight for us on difficult issues with China, the military, now Ukraine.
I am disappointed that Ron even WANTS to be POtus if he has to endure what they will ask of him.
They will either de-nut him or he’ll tell them to eff off.
He will not tell them to eff off. The deal is done, thus his acceptance to hide this week and “campaign” on the coat tails of PDJT primary winners, Lake and Masters.
Do you ever remember him making any speeches in the House while 45 was president? I don’t. Never heard of him until 45 pluck him out and got him to run for gov. He has been good for FL, but it’s very disappointing to see this turn of events. He could have take 2 terms as gov and been satisfied, and waited for what was his next step in life without selling out his soul for money. Someday he will regret this.
Truly, I don’t!
I don’t know if he copied Trump or if his actual nature is similar to Trump’s forthright nature.
Here’s one way to tell. DeSantis was a Representative for a little less than 6 years. Can you recall anything that he ever did? And speeches on the House floor? Any hearings? Any legislation he sponsored? Anything? If the answer is ‘no’, then you can be assured DeSantis is no Trump.
I’ve already thought of that, even looked up his record as best as I could.
The answer is “no.”
The other thing that bothers me is that he’s never worked what I call a “real job.’
Lawyering is real if it’s NOT just one’s way of climbing the political rungs.
It appears he chose to climb political rungs and I am always suspicious of pols with no working life experience that is similar to that of average folks.
I was shocked to read that at age 43 he still has $21k in student debt. How has he not paid that off already?
https://www.850wftl.com/gov-desantis-is-not-in-it-for-the-money-net-worth-300k-still-paying-off-student-loans/
I do not know his financial situation but it is not unusual for JD graduates to have $150k debt when they leave school, so $21k is impressive as he has not done any real private practice time
No that’s not impressive. He’s 43. He got his JD in 2005 so that was 17 years ago. Even if he had $150k in debt he could have paid $8k per year and he’d be done paying. When was he planning to pay it off? And if he did become so indebted that he can’t seem to pay it off, well that wasn’t very good judgement.
Zip. Nada. Not a one!
De Santis banned CRT in the FLa. school system.
He suspended the state AG after the Ag refused to follow the laws he didn’t find in accordance with his wokeness.
He cancelled the renewal of tax breaks to the Disney Corp after it became know they are protecting pedophiles.
He’s just signed a bill allowing veterans to teach in schools w/ a temp. 5 year teaching certificate;gfign them and their students a great opportunity to learn from. veterans who have actually fought for MAGA; not just talked about it like the purity freaks here.
But still De Santis is not good enough for your purity tests.
Nobody’s more MAGA than you!
I am hoping that people who love PDJT for his in your face, burn it down style …… will not be impressed with the new soft, squishy, typical Repuglicant desantis. I pray that people are unwilling to fall for it, even if they are unable to quite put their finger on the fact that the gop is trying to con them.
I don’t have to have a “burn it down style.”
I have to have someone who fights for ME, not for American companies that don’t give a crap about America and Americans.
NO GLOBALISTS.
I also want someone who will throw out every damned Chinese national in our universities and who will see to it our medicines are made in America, not China.
Hell, they could kill us all tomorrow if they simply stopped shippine blood pressure pills here.
Can’t you just hear a Chamber of Commerce-financed candidate listening to them ordering him around with, “But you can’t do THAT. We do business with them and they’ll be MAD.”
Indeed so. If you dig deep, you will find many supposed “conservatives” are connected to varying degrees with the WEF and other globalists.
To bad, I really like DeSantis, would like to see a Trump/DeSantis ticket in 2024. After Monday’s raid, I do believe the global elites are going to make sure Trump is not the Republican nominee.
I believe the Republican’s are planning on DeSantis/Noem.
But I am going to pray everyday it is Trump winning in 2024-miracles do happen.
DeSantis/Noem
The country has never heard of them.
Remember: Fox is cable and is dwarfed in viewership by ABC news alone, not even counting CBS and NBC.
And as for charisma?
I can tell you this. Even at his best, DeSantis has no charisma per se. Noem? None.
So, when you have people who are NOt known and whose personalities will not grab people…..you got losers.
Truth.
Ron, at heart, apparently, is an Ivy technocrat. Nice that he wants to help but his is going to drift when fed false numbers, promises and info, without a big MAGA anchor to steady him.
At this point Trump could run as an Independent and probably still get more votes.
A split like Teddy Roosevelt would still be a disaster
My goodness. Looks like Sundance fears DeSantis more in 2024 than he did Cruz 2016.
Not sure why because DeSantis doesn’t stand a chance if Trump runs and see no reason to run Ron down
Um, LOL I never feared Cruz, I mocked him, relentlessly…. and all the insufferable Cruzbots that bought his BS.
Cruz’s speech at the 2016 nominating convention was the best thing I have ever witnessed. It was joyous to watch him explode on national television. We need more of that.
OK….Would you support DeSantis in 2028 or beyond?
No. See my comment below
You are worried 2028?! We are fighting for the survival of our country right now! If DeSantis is either too stupid to see that, or otherwise doesn’t want to join the fight, then screw him. Forever!
It does amaze and confound me when I see this from supposed awake “patriots.”
I hear it among others around here as well. They really think what we have witnessed in the last 15 years is just “partisan politics as usual” and then talk about the pendulum swinging “back.”
We are now (right now—not 10 years hence) locked in an existential ideological war for America. If you are unfamiliar with “existential” in this context, it basically means this is for all the marbles.
In spite of this, as demonstrated by increasingly egregious “first time ever” abuses of our Constitution (such as the raid on Trump just this week), self-proclaimed “patriots,” here and across the internet, continue to act like this war is not total but merely selective to suit each of their tastes and addictions—like a smorgasbord.
They pick and choose which things offered by our openly mortal (they are saying they want us DEAD) enemies they just cannot do without (virtually all “entertainment” including such uplifting and virtuous things as FB, Twitter, Netflix, pro, college and olympic sports, all network and most of cable TV etc.) and very very few are willing to stop their support (using these platforms and watching their programming is direct support—whether you “disagree” with any of it matters not to those who control these things).
Similarly, and even more important, they increasingly ignore the spiritual aspects of their own lifestyles and apparently disagree with our Founders who warned us that America could not survive if the citizenry turned from the God of the Bible. That is why those pushing for a kinetic response to our current rulers are putting the cart before the horse.
Even if we “won,” given the “values” so prevalent in our post-modern “culture,” we would replace the current crop of elitist rulers with more of the same. The only way tyranny can be avoided is by a true belief in God through Christ and most important, a humble willingness to give Him
control over our lives . Otherwise the sin nature of all humankind will eventually shine through and we will devolve into survival of the “fittest” instead of the rule of law given to us by our Founders.
🎯👍👌
Exactly! Well put Sir!
Why would anyone even ask about 2028? Between 2022 and 2027/2028, too much will happen to endorse now. Why are you even asking that question?
Because I do not see DeSantis as a threat in 2o24 and he has proven to be a kick ass governor that might be worth looking at down the road.
That is why I don’t understand why Sundance keeps running him down. He will be re elected as governor and serve his 4 yrs better than any other governor in this country.
Maybe I am naive, but I do not think DeSantis would dare challenge Trump. He can read the polls
Then why is he running against 45? He not in AZ, PA and OH campaigning for gov of FL and he’s never gone to a Trump rally to support Kari Lake before. He’s running for prez for 2024 not 2028 and he can’t support 45 if he’s running against him. So, I conclude he actually believes 45 will be barred from running.
Maybe he’s just going to take the GOPe book deal money ($10M) and lose and take the money on his way out the door.
(sigh) better than any governor in the country huh???
The silent little lamb is really kicking ass right now in the moment of truth isn’t he?
He suspended a judge (who will be right back), made a show over Disney and the covid vaccine passports…..except he enforces exactly nothing. Nothing.
No florida citizen is protected from any vaccine mandate by their employers whether they be private or public. He literally does the opposite of what he claims to be doing. That’s why he’s funded by the US Chamber of Commerce and Koch network.
He’s a complete abject phony.
A yale and Harvard trained lawyer that has never ever , not even for one day held a job in the private sector.
😵💫Governor Ron DeSantis is now and by his actions or lack thereof challenging President Donald J Trump.
✅️Governor Ron DeSantis has apparently accepted his GOPe requirements for support and has become Mike Pence 2.0, or worse.
Would you support Pence or that other Bush in 2028?
There’s your answer.
Don’t make me hurl. lol
What would be the worst lineup of GOP candidates for a presidential primary? haha
Exactly 💯 💯
Will Mark Levin support DeSantis like he did Cruz in 2016? What a phony MAGA guy.
A damns-with-faint-praise never Trumper.
I’ll give Levin the BotD because he actually admitted on air he was totally wrong about Trump and then spent several years vocally defending the guy. Everyone is allowed to be wrong. Not everyone admits they were.
Levin will support whoever is good for LEVIN in 2024
I can’t say you’re wrong about that. But he did really go to the ropes for Trump several times on his little radio show. We’ll see. I don’t ever completely trust these idiots.
Hell, I don’t even trust meself half the time. Sometimes depends what I drank as far as what my opinion will be.
I was an avid Levin listener and supporter of Ted Cruz well into the primary season. I remember Levin’s gradual move to support President Trump.
I watched every debate, and I could not believe the things President Trump was saying at the time. I had been a huge supporter of GWB and I almost fell off my couch when he criticized him for the Iraq war. I voted for Cruz in the primary.
But I supported Trump against Hillary.
Obviously that was before I found this site. My eyes are opened to things I never really could see or understand for many years.
Levin has written a lot of good books that gave me an education I needed, but no one has educated me like Sundance.
Levin’s gradual move was when Trump won the Primary. He also had to confess on air that a relative of his fiance worked for the Cruz Campaign. Listen, Rush Limbaugh did not support Trump either in 2015/16. He also came around.
Not true. Rush was always somewhat supportive of Trump; it just took Rush awhile to let go of Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. But Rush always stuck to his guns about not making any kind of endorsement in primary season.
I started with Cruz myself back then, but had already jumped over to Trump before someone mentioned this wonderful site to me. But I’d already given up on defending GWB well before all of that, when it became more and more difficult to do so. Things just didn’t add up, and ultimately the purpose of the war in Iraq didn’t add up. Not even the whole “take the oil” angle made much sense.
A lot of more nefarious reasons do make sense, and the best explanation was total government corruption and corruption of both political parties…a concept I’d already come to terms with before 2016. Once Trump showed he was being serious, what he was saying absolutely aligned with my views and it was a done deal. Cruz’s actions once things went into full swing showed me how that had been a bad horse to ride from the start.
Dude is a snake, and still is as far as I’m concerned, even if there are a lot of Trump supporters that seem to like him now. I’ll never trust him. Or Rand Paul for that matter. At this point, it’s difficult for me to trust any politician with a following that hasn’t had the entire power of the State and Media come down on them constantly like it has against Trump.
The aircraft over the target is the one that gets the flak.
He’ll appeal to any audience that buys his books!
I just read the transcript of Cruz’s speech. Excellent. I just cannot figure out why our politicians don’t believe it and act accordingly. Does he believe his own words?
Be in the world, not of the world.
when President Trump was in office, I prayed for the corruption to be exposed to the liberals and Americans would unite against the corruption. That old saying, “ be careful what you pray for comes to mind” and as I read here It is so much worse than I imagined myself. I want to cry Uncle!
I thank you SD for all the information you have provided but yet want to turn away from it as well. My heart is filled simultaneously with gratitude for your research as well as despair for our country. I am comforted with the many times Jesus told us to fear not. It gives me the resolve to go forward and face reality. And so I do.
Great post Nana
I wrote him in in 2016. I was a fool.
You’re not a fool Randy. I believe in you.
I wrote him as well informing him as a “constitutional scholar” he KNEW he was not eligible under its requirements to run for POTUS…..I got no reply back….further research has shown he is not even qualified to be a US Senator since he has never proven his citizenship……Dad was a Canadian…..mother was born a US citizen, converted to a British subject in 1962, and then converted to a Canadian citizen prior to Aug 1971…..as Ted was born in Oct 1971 Two Canadian parents born IN Canada makes him CANADIAN
I think people forget how cult-like the Cruz people were back then. It was…bizarre…to say the least.
Cruz is incredibly unlikeable. Princeton is a small school and people know many of their classmates but I shave never seen someone whose college classmates when asked all had a story about something awful or weird Cruz did to or in front of them. He was loathed
Eddie Munster. I remember the memes, and man they fit. The dude is just weird.
They were very bitter! Remember the Cruz-loving delegates were going to stage a coup at the convention?
The Cruzbots are still ‘cult like’, they can’t let go and now DeSantis is their favorite.
Cruz outed himself bigly by 2016.
I initially had high hopes for Cruz as a Senator ca 2012 but time told his real tale.
Being such a “Constitutionalist” and Havard lawyer, the native born requirement made him an insult added to injury.
DeSantis is a lot better candiddate than Cruz -but still short in several ways
I’d like to watch that 2016 speech, to see that explosion. I’ll check Rumble first then if I have to…YT.
But I just got finished watching Jack Probeic on America’s Voice that inside sources from the White House is they are pushing for Trump’s indictment with possibility of jail. DeSantis wouldn’t have competition if that would happenq
They can indict a ham sandwich. Then Trump will have it for lunch!
With a Diet Coke. And two scoops of vanilla ice cream for dessert.
What the country would look like if President Trump went to jail should be what worries little Ron DeSantis. It worries me to death.
Yes indeed. Desantis has young children. What in the world are these people thinking? His wife, does she not care about the world in which her children live? Or does think the promise of riches is worth it?
Hugo Chavez’s daughter is doing very well. Last I heard, 2 billion dollars well. Venezuela is a dystopian mess but his spawn are doing fine.
I like Jack, he is extremely informative. But …
“…they are pushing for Trump’s indictment with possibility of jail.”
Indictment for what? Dems and others have been pushing for an indictment since release of the fake dossier six years ago.
And you’d just meekly go along with DeSantis if they throw Trump in jail ? Let the Dems and deep state pick your candidate ?
It’s now glaringly obvious DeSantis is in on it all, a willing partner… more controlled opposition.
No, I am Trump supporter 100%. I was pointing out what the thinking of the Rinos might be. Get rid of Trump & run DeSantis. It is getting to be like the Twilight Zone where everyone you thought you knew are actually opposite
He definitely will not have competition… for the loser of the Presidental selection of 2024 if he thinks he is going to get MAGA voters after Trump is indicted
When Trump goes down, the GOP will be finished as well.. there are many people who are non political and voted only because they supported Trump. Those voters will never come back to the GOP ever.
Thing is, the GOPe doesn’t care if that happens. Looting this country for everything it’s worth has now become their sole reason to exist. Every breath they take, every minuet impulse they feel drives them to that goal, whatever the cost. Even if the party becomes irrelevant, the ******** in charge will get their golden parachutes for a job well done.
Despite the trite antics of the GOPe being covered here, we’ve long since left political gamesmanship in the rear view mirror. This isn’t the local consuls playing at who gets to be head honcho, this is the Vandals sacking Rome… and events may already be beyond anyones ability to stop truth be told.
“They” aim to provoke a real literal fight before 2028.
Or maybe another J6 Reichstag fakeout.
I hope that DS overthrow effort can be derailed by enough MAGA victories, and Rino/Dimo removals in 2022.
erratum …before 2024
DeSantis doesnt stand a chance which is why hes quiet on the illegal removal of the rightful President. You would support a scumbag like that?
Here’s a clue. GOPe has convinced DeSantis 45 isn’t running because he’s be indicted with a trial, appeals up to SCOTUS, pending outcome. Does that clarify what’s happening???
Ron DeSantis is not stupid enough to believe that. If he is that stupid. Good riddsnce.
He would be more stupid to believe he can snatch the R nomination from 45.
I think Sundance probably is more disappointed than any of us because he’s been close to the situation, studying it all along.
He’s a Florida resident and has been happy w/ DeSantis’ style and positions, for the most part.
But he has indeed seen a change. If it was just a stylistic change, he’d probably not be concerned, but he knows it’s a relationship change.
After all, I don’t know anyone here who wants a GOPe candidate.
Trump has been the only one who can challenge them because he didn’t need them.
Exactly 💯 💯
Good points 🎯
CRuz, sadly, has an integrity problem. An intellect wasted.
Cruz is disingenuous….he has been a liar from the beginning and has only built upon his original lies
Not sure Sundance “fears” anyone. He’s just pointing out the facts and what may not be obvious to many people. The point is the GOPe doesn’t like Trump and Desantis is their opportunity to TRY to sideline him. Sundance is laying out the procedure they will use to attempt to make Desantis the nominee.
I wouldn’t put it past the gope to sabotage DeSantis after he got nominated. And let the dems win.
At any rate we barely have a country now. Can you imagine what will happen if they put our President Trump in jail? And they will come after all of us who protest. I see a lot of dead patriots probably including me if I have the courage.
I don’t know about you Bitter, but I am demanding that the other Republicans have respect for Trump and defer to him. Trump is the person who made the new GOP party. McCain and Romney couldn’t win their elections, and if Jeb! or any other non-Trump candidate had won the GOP nomination in 2016 Hillary would have become the President.
I’m not seeing any such respect from DeSantis. It appears DeSantis is distancing himself from Trump … but still clinging to the Trump supporters he inherited.
DeSantis is showing his true colors. He will never get my vote now.
It’s extremely rare for me to go on the attack on here, and I don’t necessarily feel inclined to defend Sundance because he can damned well do it on his own, but you, Sir, deserve a little bit of a dressing down for this ridiculous comment.
Nobody “feared” Cruz, least of all Sundance. Not even way back then. I never saw any fear in his posts about that asshat. And ultimately, Cruz’s own asshattery made something of an enjoyable stage performance for the rest of us at the RNC. The guy was 2016’s Republican “pick”, and he failed miserably.
DeSantis is just the next “pick”. I have no idea how people like you exist, continuing to carry water for the RNC, a feckless party that has continued to let us down for….well, forever. At least with Democrats you know what to expect. Basically they’re the party of Sauron and Melkor. With the Republicans, it’s the party of NOTHING. No changes, no moving back from what previous Democrats did. It’s the “don’t rock the boat party”. Absolutely useless people, the lot of them.
And if you think Sundance somehow is waffleing because he doesn’t just blindly support the “next pick”, in this case DeSantis, then you’re a bit of an idiot.
No, sorry, I apologize for saying that. You’re a full idiot. I mean, at this point how can you not see what is going on? My God, does it take someone literally dunking your head in a bucket? Most normal people didn’t even need Sundance’s diatribe about DeSantis to see what he is, but you take it even further!
Wow….you, sir are not only out of line, you are dead wrong about my thoughts on the matter. BTW, I am a woman not a “sir”
How?
My apologies ma’am. If I had known about your lack of dangling bits betwixt your legs, I might have refrained from parrying with you, considering I normally don’t make a habit of fighting with the “weaker sex”, but you put yourself out there, so you’d best be willing to take the flack that comes with it.
You’re wrong ma’am. Simply wrong. Excruciatingly wrong. If it is possible that you are willing to discover how and update your thoughts considering modern politics, then I will offer my services to help get you up to speed. I know I have been supremely wrong in the past about certain things, and the antidote is usually to just take your licks, admit you’re wrong, and learn from whomever will teach you.
Yes, Cruz’s stage performance was the best. I am laughing now. Set himself on fire. It ranks right up there with The Young Turks coverage of election night 2016…..cenk lost his mind when it was called for PDJT.
SIGH, that was great times…….it seems so long ago.
Nah, nothing ranks that highly. That YT stuff was GOLD Jerry, GOLD.
Not to be *that guy* but I think the noun “principle” as used above should be “principal”:
vnoun
A refresher on Treehouse Rules:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/guidelines-for-comments/
7.) SPELLING AND PUNCTUATION – This is not school and we do not demerit for poor spelling, nor do we allow anyone to call others out for the same.
If Kari Lake is also part of this, then who isn’t?
Who in the entire GOP is not an active, controlled element of the RINO establishment?
I said several days ago that I agree that what you DO speaks far louder than anything you say. It goes more than that. What you DO defines who you are. My vote goes to whoever DOES real opposition to the left. Whoever actually legislates to remove leftist policy or defunds and abolishes leftist agencies will win my not my loyalty, but my support.
My loyalty lies solely to actual, specific policies. Defund and abolish Deep State. America First trade and immigration. No foreign intervention. Massive, sustained reduction in government reach and authority.
My support will go to whoever actually DOES these things.
I don’t think Sundance said Lake “is a part of this” at all. He said Desantis is going to ride on her coattails.
Exactly. That sucking sound you hear originates from Rove and McConnell. It is the same Remora/shark behavior used upon the Tea Party. The GoPe need the momentum of MAGA but will never ever support its founder and leader: President Trump.
😉Excellent description 👌 👍
✅️Right on target 🎯
Yes, for Lake’s MAGA creds.
Kari will have to be watched, her background means she has been fully immersed in saying what she is told and presenting it as truth.
I don’t think she’s in on it. She would have accepted to attend the rally before DeSantis bunker days this week. Plus, she’s just trying to get elected. She’s not trying to get DeSantis elected.
The GOPe hates her right now any way because she bangs the drum of a stolen election and she has attacked Fox too.
She gave a knock out punch to CNN too!
I’m not going to judge Kari Lake for participating in the Arizona TPUSA rally. She’s running for Governor there, she needs to attend. Now if she’s planning to fly around to the other rallies that will make me suspicious, but as far as I know she’s only attending the Arizona rally.
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I doubt Kari Lake will be muzzled and/or told what to say.
She QUIT a highly prestigious position at Phoenix’s Fox 10 News because she REFUSED to read scripted lies.
Her speeches from here on out will not waver from full-on support for our VSGPDJT. I thinks she can recognize a DeSantis sidle, and gracefully, yet forcefully, block any attempt by him to undercut her mentor in this politician game.
My loyalty lies solely to actual, specific policies. Defund and abolish Deep State. America First trade and immigration. No foreign intervention. Massive, sustained reduction in government reach and authority.
All things both parties do not stand for.
One man does. And, he has demonstrated to us that he does.
Unfortunately, outside of Trump, I don’t see any rising star in our near future that isn’t hedging their bets or outright GOPe controlled.
I pray I am wrong!
We are so hosed 🙁
NSS.
Fine! Let’s then, all cast our votes for Mrs.Haley! In the current iteration ofCRT, RandPaul is a RINO plant, ditto, Noem, ditto DeSantis, ditto Youngkin, ditto Lake. As The greatCeltics announcer Jonny Most once said when the team was flailing away into oblivian: Larry Bird and Robert Parish aren’t walking through that door to save you. Get my drift?!
Jim Jordan and Josh Hawley.
Nikki Haley = INELIGIBLE……..both parents were LEGAL residents…..NOT citizens at the time of her birth making her a 14th Amendment citizen NOT a natural born citizen as required per the US Constitution
I don’t think Rand Paul is a Rino (DS) but he is not Ron Paul.
Strike and shun all members and their employees. That’s the peaceful arm of ‘kill’.
Masters and Lake need to be shown this article. They are about to be played. And as for Charlie Kirk, he’s just lost a listener.
Charlie seems like a nice guy, but he’s just not as well-versed in the machinery of the GOPe.
I’m no Kirk expert, but that has been my take.
It’s easy to jump at the notion that because DeSantis “doesn’t have baggage” that he’d be a good pick, but it misses so, so much.
I think Charlie Kirk has $-signs in his eyes.
TPUSA total revenue 2015 $2,052,349
TPUSA total revenue 2020 $39,843,289
There are probably a lot of GOPE-y people donating big money to promote DeSantis.
You can bet the left will find baggage with DeSantis if he runs
After reading CTH for so long I know Sundance is correct. I hate it but, the truth is what it is. Politicians suck. RD is a politician, Trump is not
Correct.
And I want Peter Navarro on America’s economic team.
And I want Ric Grenell. In fact, while he’s probably be a great Secretary of State, I’d wonder if Grenell would be a great VP.
Grenell could hold a lot of positions. He could be SoS, head the FBI, or be VP.
Gotta have Nunes too.
Lee ATwater gave us Bush 1. God help us.
The nobless oblige who broke a promise written in stone, an idiot so in love with Chinese people that he couldn’t perceive or just didn’t believe in the the master plan of the Chicoms (how the hell can you live in China and not understand how they play the game?), father to a spoiled dunce and an emasculated romantic……
Like I said. God help us.
Exactly 💯 💯
✅️ It is the “way” of Lee Atwater
That pick made me ill as I new already what Senior Bush would be at all times.
👉Globalist 👈
Well said!
“We make our own reality.”
TBH, as I read and type here, in the background I hear the beach buggies and motorcycles attacking the dunes behind my little abode in the forest and kinda envy those folks. Living life seemingly oblivious to to what’s going on.
IDK, could be members of the Communist machine taking well deserved R&R. Plenty of fascist corps own vacation homes in the area so could be. I imagine it’s like when I was in Russia, the oligarchs and their dachas. We were just annoying bugs they had to share the same space with once in awhile.
DeSantis had choices. He made them. Free will. It is what it is.
I think DeSantis knows they are going to indict and arrest Trump. He is playing the game to step in to the slot. As Sundance said he has no money on his own unlike Trump. I don’t like it but it’s how the game is played
We just need to be honest with ourselves and each other and face it. It’s the way of establishment politics.
Does Venezuela engage in politics? this is not politics anymore.
France, England both declined due to poor leadership. Without Trump or a Trump like person, the USA is toast. End of story.
Part of the reason the MAGA movement is as strong as it is, is because PDT has grown the bs meter of the crowd. Just a hunch but it’s very Rove like to think millions of MAGA patriots will just welcome eunuch Ronnie with open arms. PDT is not going to be witten off by 80 plus million people just because the big club thinks he should be.
Nothing in this country will matter if they do that.
It’s sad DeSantis let this happen to himself. A promise to our country he could not hold on to.
Is President Trump indeed the unique man he turns out to be?
MAGA.
Yes, he is. Anyone who lives 25-30 more years, will look back to fully see the uniqueness of who he was.
There is no doubt whatsoever that President Trump will be prevented from being President.
Banana Republic.
Yep
Aren’t you a ray of sunshine.
The people on this forum need to stop knee-jerk attacking any commenter who dares to speak of a negative possibility. The world we live in is fraught with very negative possibilities. But God help anybody who voices those negative possibilities here at the treehouse, lest they be met with an attack from the cultish positivity police on this board.
I think there are plenty of would-be negativity police as well – the famous “eeyores.”
I’ve seen some attack posters simply for daring to say they intend to vote (because they believe it’s futile, so everyone should).
Pretty evenly split from what I’ve seen.
Maybe we need to hold Optimists versus Pessimists sack races…
Tell Ron how we feel and what we know!!!
Office of Governor Ron DeSantis
State of Florida
The Capitol
400 S. Monroe St.
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 717-9337
Hi, Ed!
Be glad to!!
NO!
I reject your offer of “choice” GOPe, or should I say Uniparty-R.
Ron DeWho?
The eGOP figures it can be larcenous and grifting as it wants, as long as it is not as insane, incompetent, and evil as the Dems. The open borders invasion, militarization of internal security, and attacks on any organized challengers to oligarchy rule will continue. “We won’t force you to wear a mask or allow men in dresses into girls’ dressing rooms like the Dems, but we are still going to replace you and tax you heavily to pay for it.”
🤔 It feels like the set up for making Ronald Reagan taking Bush Senior on the ticket as his VP all over again.💯
The RNC is in full swing trying to hitch their wagon to the “MAGA” magic. I’ve been receiving multiple emails from rnchq.com all of which tout MAGA in their wording and even pics of Trump. As Sundance points out, it’s their way of deceptively presenting themselves as great Trump supports. They’ve asked if you think President Trump should run in 2024 to do you support (fill in the blank) etc. and have some kind of poll they want you to take. I unsubscribed but still get them so left w/continuing to delete them.
Never answer them.
Sometimes I get multiples per hour.
Save America PAC actually has some sketchy GOPe types at the helm. Did a little digging when they first formed – still have the details somewhere in my notes. Never trusted their WINRED thing. Stopped online donation entirely and just sent a check directly to the snail mail address which is hard to find but does exist.
Never talks about the 2020 election theft and basically ignores the “Raid”. If DeSantis is not careful, he will be Jeb! redux
good, he makes a decent governor if he doesn’t turn bitter, or get sloppy once the mask is off.
I got a real check in my spirit when I heard DeSantis was going to Pennsylvania to be the keynote speaker for Mastriano.
Then I see today that it’s not just Pennsylvania but other battleground states.
I do believe he is trying to undermine President Trump and others are helping him along.
New Mexico, Arizona, Pennsylvania and Ohio so far. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re adding Wisconsin.
I think we should all go to these rallies in Trump gear and chant Trump Trump Trump when Ron comes on stage.
G-r-r
oops – he just f’d himself
Would you tell me more of your thoughts on this?
That scene ……. when Robert The Bruce talks to William Wallace.
He says , ‘ peace is made in such ways …. but this, your actions, it looks like rage ‘
” I am well beyond RAGE sire …… ”
UNITE US ! ….. If we Unite , We can WIN !
( they will try to divide us , mark my words )
Politics is such a dirty game. It makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. I will never trust a politician ever again. That is why I support President Trump and only President Trump.
Things like this are why so many people don’t vote! The republicans are being handed near certain victory, and they will screw it up!
As the scorpion said to the one who helped him after he delivered a deadly sting. It is who I am.
I hate the prospect of being forced to go back to voting for the least worst person instead of voting for the best person. 🙁
Will they never learn? Anyone who goes against Trump becomes immediately and irrevocably politically dead to us. Don’t they know that?
Another promising political person is about to crash and burn his entire career on the side of Mount Trump. Bye, Ron.
Trump/Anyone 2024
They believe this time “they got him” and he’ll be barred from running.
they keep hoping and trying – it’s worked in the past
What’s pathetic about this GOPe club maneuver is the ruining of a good governor. Obviously they are ignoring the polling seeing how PO’d people are with the RAID, but they have to try groom someone to replace Trump.
I say good governor without hesitation because clearly he is leading his state while other R governors dither or join the left.
If Trump runs and DeSantis decides to jump in, the GOPe will not care a whit if either are ruined.
On the other hand, if the GOPe know the Swamps plans to keep Trump off the ballot, they will need what they think is an acceptable alternative for the PO’d people.
What are the odds DeSantis is truly MAGA, and is playing the GOPe? I could sure use some wickedly clever subversive sh*t by our side about now.
😵💫 GOPe to GovernorRonDeSantis-“So Ron,how’s your wife and kids enjoying the benefits of your political career” 😉 “Hate for her to relapse health wise. Kids need a mom 👩”
👉 I really don’t think Ron DeSantis will turn on those who are apparently now supporting him $$$$👈.
I’ve been thinking the same. How could DeSantis not stay in touch with Trump enough to not know about the RAID ahead of time, or not know of the possibility of the left acting against Trump.
Is it at all possible Trump and DeSantis are both aware of what is going on and both knew ahead of time what is happening? Did Trump tell DeSantis to let it play out?
Is it possible DeSantis knew ahead of time and stayed silent watching a possible opponent being taken out? If that is the case, DeSantis is stupid for thinking the Uniparty will not do the same to him and his family.
If it becomes known DeSantis knew ahead of time and decided to get to the bunker and watch an opponent get taken out, the GOPe will be included in the wrath.
Not Hopeium, just specualting on the possibilities.
Not gonna happen.
The 3D chess days are over. If someone smells like a rat it’s not because they’re trying to look like a rat but they’re actually on our side, they really ARE a rat.
That’s how you have to look at things. It’s simple really: decent people suck at playing duplicitous games, and this specific game has the greatest vipers around.
Charlie Kirk is promoting DeSantis as “America’s Governor”, says Kari Lake will be “the Ron DeSantis of the West”, and says DeSantis has “become the model for a new conservative movement that is willing to stand on principle and to actually fight on behalf of the values of his voters”.
It’s like Kirk and DeSantis are literally climbing over Trump to try to raise their own profiles. And they are leveraging Trump’s base for their own purposes.
As I mentioned in the presidential thread, I will watch the first rally. If they don’t mention Trump, if they don’t declare how outrageous it was that Trump’s home was raided, if they don’t acknowledge that Trump created the greatest political movement in modern history and that many people will benefit from Trump’s hard work and sacrifice, then they can f off.
DeSantis is a great Governor and he should stay there.
Yes. I said weeks ago, he should stay in his lane. Crucial error in judgment.
Says a lot about millennials, no staying power to see the tough rides through. Kirk silly rabbit.
“new conservative movement”? I happy with the MAGA / AF Movement, thank you very much DeSantis. Is he really that out of touch?
Ron had a good schtick going.
Too bad he blew his cover.
Charlie Kirk talking about principles. Didn’t know he’s taken up comedy now.
Not his fault that he’s being willingly co-opted and corrupted by the big club to which we don’t belong? It IS his choice and he’s pretty much destroyed for me.
Exactly 💯
You’re correct.
“It’s his choice”
I’m anxious to see if he still uses some of his “Trump speaking maneuvers, with his hands and arms”. That will be the tell.
Watch his movements, his TONE; Sundance lays it out perfectly.
Things change.? That also means DeSantis might double cross the club, yes?
mafia doesn’t like to be double crossed. Snowden. Seth.
that double/triple agent thing doesn’t work out in the lng run – it gets confused
He can play them too.
DeSantis will lose to Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom as MAGA stays home.
If DeSantis were to win the GOP nomination I would probably end up voting for him just to keep a Dem from winning, just like I voted for McCain and Romney. But it’s very unlikely I would vote for DeSantis in a primary now.
The US Chamber of Commerce is a symptom of the swamp problem , not the problem itself.
FIX the problem – not the symptom.
( best auto-shop teacher ever taught me this )
Dark money and “corporations are people” ……SCoTUS decisions are a part of the problem
This opinion piece is very timely. I’ve been warning folks about DeSantis for a bit now. Not that I had any solid reasoning behind it other than gut instinct, I’ll admit. Could be he is a decent enough fella being led by the nose by the national party types. But I’ve no interest in “decent” or anyone who can be led by the nose by anybody.
These Republicans do the same thing every time. When an election bid is coming up, a few of them actually do their jobs and do what they’re supposed to be doing, and we all act like they’re goram heroes for doing it. Enter DeSantis…does his job and calls a spade a spade. Wow, what a low bar we have for politicians in that party.
It’s like Trump never existed…the guy who called a spade a spade as a habit and pissed off the entirety of the State doing it.
Seriously, anyone who is still saying Trump should sit down and we should all vote for DeSantis needs to sit TF down.
IMO ( which as a Canadian is worth nothing)
If President Trump is neutralized as difficult as it would be I simply would never vote again.
Many of us here are above average and can navigate choppy seas.
We may just have to “ find another way”
Cheers!
I’ve never been of the inclination that Canadians are worth nothing. You are Americans Lite. And I’ve had a LOT of Canadian friends throughout the years, even ones with thick disgusting Canadian accents. They see the world as most Americans do, and as I do. Just have a different system that seems rather worse than ours here.
As far as your voting habits, yes you are correct. They are meaningless to me. I’d invite you to go through the citizenship process and become an American so we can have more like you here.
That’s my plan
Dekester you among those here at the top of my good guy worth listening to list.
I applaud your comment.
If he can be led by the “national party types”, then I don’t care to vote for him.
“national party types” include the likes of Romney, Murkowski, McConnell and Collins. I would rather vote for someone who clearly calls out those RINO’s for the selfish b@stards they are.
The past few days have been telling… Remember when Marco Rubio hit the scene? I do, and this sure smells like a Rubio 2.0
Good analogy. Man, did I fall for that for a bit.
Marco Rubio I think was genuine when he started.
Remember when he showed up alone with his signs and literature in the the trunk of his car?
Then like so many he was made an offer he couldn’t refuse.
That lasted until blackmailers informed Little Marco that they had video of one of his foam parties.
Didn’t Marco get behind on his yacht payments? And he sweated way too much.
It will be interesting watching the DeSantis dupes try to contort around it now.
If those in politics aren’t discussing
FIX2020,
CHILD TRAFFICKING
CIA and
DISNEY
it’s a safe bet they are not to be trusted.
Nice summary.