New York Governor Kathy Hochul called a special session of the state legislature after the Supreme Court knocked down their firearm restrictions. The new law, which passed both chambers of democrat-controlled government, takes effect Sept 1st and is unlikely to hold up once challenged in court. The new law is stunningly over the top.
Keep in mind, when writing the majority decision Justice Clarence Thomas concluded there was no historical requirement that law-abiding citizens show the kind of special need for self-defense required by the New York law to carry a gun in public. Indeed, as Thomas wrote, there is “no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need.”
The latest effort from the New York assembly is outlined in an Associated Press report which includes:
(Via AP) […] Among other things, the state’s new rules will require people applying for a handgun license to turn over a list of their social media accounts so officials could verify their “character and conduct.”
Applicants will have to show they have “the essential character, temperament and judgment necessary to be entrusted with a weapon and to use it only in a manner that does not endanger oneself and others.” As part of that assessment, applicants have to turn over a list of social media accounts they’ve maintained in the past three years.
[…] The bill approved by lawmakers doesn’t specify whether applicants will be required to provide licensing officers with access to private social media accounts not visible to the general public.
People applying for a license to carry a handgun will also have to provide four character references, take 16 hours of firearms safety training plus two hours of practice at a range, undergo periodic background checks and turn over contact information for their spouse, domestic partner or any other adults living in their household.
[…] Under the new system, the state won’t authorize permits for people with criminal convictions within the past five years for driving while intoxicated, menacing or third-degree assault. People also won’t be allowed to carry firearms at a long list of “sensitive places,” including New York City’s tourist-packed Times Square.
That list also includes schools, universities, government buildings, places where people have gathered for public protests, health care facilities, places of worship, libraries, public playgrounds and parks, day care centers, summer camps, addiction and mental health centers, shelters, public transit, bars, theaters, stadiums, museums, polling places and casinos.
New York will also bar people from bringing guns into any business or workplace unless the owners put up signs saying guns are welcome. People who bring guns into places without such signs could be prosecuted on felony charges.
[…] Gun advocates said the law infringes on rights upheld by the Supreme Court. “Now we’re going to let the pizzeria owner decide whether or not I can express my constitutional right,” said Sen. Andrew Lanza, a Staten Island Republican. “This is a disgrace. See you in the courts.” (read more)
New York state government is nuts.
Someone should act immediatly and file for an immediate injunction since this is quite clearly in direct violation to the recent SCOTUS ruling concerning states using subjective criteria to determine who has the right to possess or carry.
It’s nothing more than a toddler’s temper tantrum. A speed bump which will be removed by the courts. It will stand for about a metaphorical ten seconds before being slapped down.
These liberal cretins really are the worst sore losers.
The courts cannot be relied on. By the time cases go through the courts, they may be more liberal, more biased and more dictatorial than they are now. Look at what the courts are allowing the government to do now – political prisoners allowed, gag orders to censor free speech, legislating from the bench, ignoring legitimate complaints between states regarding voting issue which is the most crucial foundation of our republic, etc.
All true. But on this particular ridiculous intrusive pouty issue, and with the SC having ruled as they just have, I still believe it will be slapped down…eventually.
This is just another episode of the long running war to disarm us. And as such the fight it seems will never be over. One battle at a time. This is simply the next one.
Belief is ineffective for defending and exercising rights… the paper with words (Constitution) does not defend itself by mere existence…
The militia defends it.
On the issue of 2A: it is a right to militia FIRST in order to maintain a free state THEREFOR we shall not be “infringed” in keeping and BEARING arms.
The fascist regime has every intention to eliminate citizens of the constitution. The battle never ends because we the people allow it. The remedy is not the most pleasant thought but must be included in the solution. Knowing that you can be terminated before birth also paves the road to your extinction.
Yes, Patrick. I agree with you. And it seems we are moving closer to that solution. Secession is another solution, complicated as it would be. But infinitely preferable to civil war.
I disagree. Hi Betsy!
The breakup of the several states into ever smaller bites to be consumed by the evil rulers is not a solution, it’s appeasement.
Hi, SK!
I put this in on the open thread.
“It is painful enough to discover with what unconcern they speak of war and threaten it. They do not know its horrors. I have seen enough of it to make me look upon it as the sum of all evils.”
~Stonewall Jackson~
Either/or, the lesser of two evils is still evil, etc. In the end there’s no good outcome for any of it.
Whatever happens there will be terrible losses. And if there is a rebuilding (hate the word) I still feel it will be from the rubble left by the sheer evil which has deliberately been brought about by the monsters which are running this unforgivable crime against humanity.
I hope you are well, SK.
Doing okay, hope the same for you.
I too fear that which surely is coming, but the alternative is worse. I strongly disagree with ceding one more inch, one more shred of humanity, one more wisp of morality. They’ve destroyed and stolen too much as it is.
Every one of us has to stand firm where we are, refuse to be pushed any further. I don’t mean the big fights either. I want every person to finally speak up and stop the insanity. Until each person is willing to admit and accept that family or friendship harmony no longer exists in this abusive relationship with the left things will only get worse. The endless silence from our side allows this abuse to thrive.
The left are like cockroaches. You can severely limit their spread but you will never be totally rid of them. For the last 60+ years we haven’t been good about taking out the trash and spraying for them. While it’s a never ending battle, just like against roaches, it requires that we fix our voting machine cockroach spray and then regularly take out the trash.
Agree…it does require that exactly. Now how to make it happen. That’s the question.
It won’t even last that “metaphorically” long in present conditions: its DOA.
It does go to show how far these totalitarians plan to take their social credit scoring, doesn’t it? This is why I never signed up for social media in the first place.
A banner keeps popping up on my smart phone urging me to turn on “exposure notifications.” As of I give a fig who walks past me on the street. I will have to lose that phone soon.
And then, Judith, there is the concomitant issue of privacy…of those who might be on the social media accounts of the person who has to turn them over to a totalitarian intrusive Stalinist government…
I’m sure you can see where I’m going with this.
And like you, no social media for us either. Just as there is no Alexa or other spy instrument in our house either. Can’t stay out of Sauron’s eye totally, but we can make ourselves smaller, which is what we are trying to do.
I wish that were so, Betsy, but I have no confidence it will happen as quickly as it would were the ideological positions reversed.
I have zero faith in the USAG, Merrick Garland, to enforce a SCOTUS ruling with which he either disagrees and/or has been ordered to ignore by his globalist paymasters / controllers. I will admittedly be quite shocked if the DOJ goes after any state governments who openly defy this ruling UNLESS they are forced to, so that those states have time to enact “workarounds”- laws that still impose restrictions and force registrations (i.e., create LISTS of gun owners that will be used later to confiscate all guns).
Even when those “workarounds” are challenged in courts, that will delay our realizing unencumbered 2A rights for many months maybe years to get to SCOTUS again.
We are in a different legal environment post-covid. The totalitarians are in near-total control of the process and institutions and are ignoring previously-established jurisprudence.
I have trouble with it as well, GB. A lot of trouble.
I can see clearly where we are. And nothing makes it plainer than seeing the political prisoners incarcerated in their Stalinist gulag cells on their Beria charges, or no charges at all…or just because.
That they have no one who will defend them while they are left to rot and their families left to worry without their fathers, to try to survive in the uncetainty, tells all of us all we need to shake us from our false hope that America can be saved. What ever happened to their guarantees of a “quick and speedy trial”?? Or habeas corpus (which GWB suspended all by his lonesome in 2017 for those charged as “enemy combatants”…which is how the illegitimate government sees all of us who object to the coup), now seemingly dead and buried?
With those putrid Dems in power brazenly stating that the SC is now illegitimate, it’s not hard to see they have declared that Constitution is simply an aged piece of irrelevant scribbling from long dead white men.
We are in no man’s land, as clever word manipulating lawyers drag out case after case. As Mark Steyn said, who himself is a victim of US “justice” for over 10 years now and continuing, the process is the punishment. He is not wrong.
Fat finger…GWB suspended habeas corpus in 2006, not as my fat finger typed in 2017
What would be amazing if there were only someone who would prosecute the bought and paid for professional politician class so that they’d never imagine to violate their oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies whether they be foreign or domestic. Unfortunately that kind of rule of law no longer exists in most of the 50 states of our Constitutional Republic.
“The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted to a crime.” Miller v. U. S., 230 F 486 at 489
Marbury vs. Madison, the 1803 decision: “All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void.” Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137,174,176.
LII U.S. Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 13, – 242 – Deprivation of rights under color of law” . . .makes it a crime for any person acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the United States.” . . .”shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.”
Kagan, Sotomeyer and Brown say women’s intuition is more important than what is logically written. Liz Warren for the Supreme Court!!!
How can Brown ever say that when she can’t define what a woman is?
Three ignorant radical liberals is bad enough. But three ignorant radical women liberals? The utter worst.
!!! That cuts twice as deep. Which it should.
👍
Truth will out!
We are out of “practice” but nonethelessless, the militia is the enFORCEment mechanism when sheriffs fail. Historically and Constitutionally (and state constitutionally as well) correct functioning of the militia is in Art1, sect 8, clause 15 — enforce the laws of the union (+ 2 more general uses).
Remember, Hochul and other Dems said they don’t care what SCOTUS ruled…they are doing what they want…and there’s nothing we can do about it….because they own elections and vote counting…latest example is Colorado’s AG Republican Primary….a write in nobody with no money, no followers and down 20pts….came back to win with 43% while another nobody (literally no one heard of him) magically got 130,000 votes…oh, the winner who knocked out Tina- she’s on Zuckerberg’s vote integrity board and they use Dominion in colorado….
Hochul and the rest don’t care- its a rigged game. They can pass whatever they want- and we MUST accept it or we are now domestic terrorists whom will be harassed by Garland. They own the election process.
Hopefully you’ve seen this… skip first 20 minutes (intro) and be patient with the initial confusion until Jovan comes on (its worth the set up value to see confusion).
https://rumble.com/v1ag4y3-devolution-power-hour-episode-67-62922.html
Very very rigged.
This isn’t any longer “only” a court or legislative or executive issue… its beyond “only” politics. All of the ‘politics’ have been ‘won’, including court decisions. The right is what WeThePeople claim and PHYSICALLY defend and exercise at this point.
Laws already exist to arrest any who deliberately curtail your rights: 18 USC 242 (criminal), 42 USC 1983 (civil), and others.
What we lack is the enforcement mechanism and enforcement practice = militia and sheriff or militia alone.
Militia is in the Constitution 8 times; political parties mentioned zero (0) times.
Militia brought us the United States in 1776-1781 war against the british.
Militia is every bit the legitimate “force” that law enFORCEment is, military FORCE is, police FORCE…
…and force is not violence as in random/chaos/destruction. Force is the presence of CONTROLLED physical action to achieve an objective where “violent physical actions” are reserved for use when necessary tasks and missions require.
The CONmunist**-run states are defying the SCOTUS ruling in order to deliberately force citizens to file suit and suffer legal costs as well as long delays waiting for courts to hear the case.
This defiance is a blatant display of the attitude – “OK, you’ve made your ruling. Now let’s see you enforce it.”
In the meantime those states will continue to deny citizens carry permits and/or arrest and jail them if caught carrying without a valid state permit.
None of what the defiant states are doing is constitutionally or even statutorily legal post-SCOTUS ruling, but who will enforce SCOTUS ruling? Certainly NOT the one who is by law charged with enforcing it – Merrick Garland, the USAG. He will be in open violation of his oath and the Constitution.
If this were turned 180 degrees and about a SCOTUS ruling that went against conservatives, no Republican governor would be afforded ANY deference if they openly defied the ruling and kept enforcing a law that SCOTUS had overturned.
** hat tip to Dutchman for coining the term a longtime ago
This Unconstitutional Law in NY is a great example of how evil never rests or takes a break.
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But our hope is that the Lord of Hosts never looses.
It is clear they are trying to ‘break’ the courts by a flood of new BS ‘ laws’ in several states.
Not just NY , CA just passed 8 new laws AFTER leaking not only CCW info. but the entire assault weapon registry , handgun roster , and safety cert. lists. ( But don’t worry , the AG is investigating it …LOL )
—- TheReload . com
SparrowHawk: CA leaked the safety certificate list, too?
Affirmative, going back a decade if I recall correctly.
If Biden is calling the Supreme Court “illegitimate” then other courts will see it that way too. Not good
Interesting thar SCOTUS is the ONLY court called for in the Constitution. The rest are a nothing more than a construct of Congress. They can be removed from existence by Congress eliminating the Judiciary Act and a Presidential signature (or veto override).
Just another example of the psychological defense mechanism of ‘PROJECTION’ being employed by someone who knows that in fact they are the one who’s ‘ILLEGITIMATE’. The truth always comes out, doesn’t it?
If you have a liberal in your life you think may still have capacity to breakthrough the indoctrination – share this one podcast with them.
https://rightwirereport.com/2022/07/02/truth-be-told-podcast-democrats-hype-notise-america-july-2-2022/
They don’t listen..they just brush you off. As Rush used to say they are “mind numbed robots”.
Everyday. I listen to Clay and Buck, but they are no Rush.
This sounds like they want you to leave it in your car so it can easily be stolen by criminals en mass.
They should just put up a sign in those locations “get your free guns in this parking lot”.
Most of the people I worked with over the years it was just like an American Express card.
Well, the new Democrat bill also bans carrying at a business unless the business posts a sign saying you are allowed to have a gun there, so from the moment you pull into the parking lot you’re now a felon under the law.
So if a business doesnt put up the sign, it is announcing Gun Free Zone aka Violent Criminals Welcome.
It seems half of NYC with any kind of money has moved to South Florida already. It’s becoming obvious that normal people can’t live among Leftist Democrats. The ‘Great Sorting’ shall continue.
Northern Florida too. They are everywhere in the state now.
The Great Sort will eventually lead to partition and that is a good thing. Let’s hope we can get there without CW2.
Yes they are busy destroying Florida now….
Anyone who moves away from situation POTENTIALLY is a friend, fighter, ally so don’t be so sure that you “lose” more than you “gain”. Possibilities are on both sides of “good/bad” spectrum.
For example, FL gained Trump, Rush, and Bongino… not bad so far.
Stop talking sense. The dividers are on a roll..
About 30 years ago in west-central Florida I sat at a conference table with fellow employees eating lunch. There were about 8 of us, ages 20s – 50s. Not one of us was born or raised in Florida.
If leftist scum had to live up to the rules they force on others, there wouldn’t be any in office or any other place of authority.
Social media account ? What’s that ? What if you don’t have one ?
They will make one up for you.
Brilliant
You lie on the form and it will become 5 to 7 year prison term.
Like Hunter??
Obviously you’re hiding something and thus, will be turned down for a cc permit.
Social media will be interpreted to include websites with commentary sections.
Like the treehouse.
This is called social credit scoring
Welcome to China
Exactly.
I just looked at the 2nd and didn’t see any social media access requirement to own a firearm, additionally the word license or permit doesn’t appear anywhere in the text either.
This edict is illegal
Until the statist goons are stopped, they will not care about what is illegal or unlawful.
See November 3, 2020.
We have no law in this country anymore. And we no longer live in the United States of America. They stole it from us and then shot it dead.
Enjoy the 4th of July.
More or less true. No longer rule of law but law of rule. What is the enforcement wing of the Judicial branch and specifically SCOTUS?
If the Executive branch ignores their rulings and the Legislative branch refuses to use its check and balance power to impeach, what do we have? Ameristan.
Oath of office to uphold the Constitution is now a joke. The people in government trample the constitution 24×7. They believe in the Constitution as much as they believe in Santa & the Easter bunny.
I believe Barack Obama is behind all of this and intends to destroy America in order to remake it. He’s more of a threat to our Democracy than Xi or Vlad.
No question he is one of the marionettes pulling the destructive strings.
Actually, the rule of law in fusa died on July 5th, 2016 when refused to charge hillary
Agreed, and I look farther back than your reference. I will have a quiet weekend unless a pronoun-57 gender decides to start an argument.
They don’t care 🤷♂️
And what did Zelden have to say?
If that tweet is indicative of kind of twisted, convoluted and unConstitutional reasoning(?) that the Gov of NY is using to make her case, she is leading the State Government Crazy Train.
Years ago, I was called into a jury pool. The questionnaire both the Judge and lawyers reviewed included what news you watched, bumper stickers you had, magazine subscriptions etc.
So this idea is not so new.
But wouldn’t it be more important for the Jury to know how the Judge and lawyers answered these same questions?
BTW, historically speaking, NY gun laws have been overturned furthering gun rights activists rights.
Meanwhile, gunfights in NYC with police driving by in police cars.
“Applicants will have to show they have ‘the essential character, temperament and judgment necessary to be entrusted with a weapon and to use it only in a manner that does not endanger oneself and others.’”
1.) I am so old I remember when BJ Clinton apologists told us “character doesn’t matter”.
2.) The rational of gun ownership is to “endanger…others” when faced with a life-threatening assault.
3.) This is not a “Shall issue” law and will be struck down immediately.
Communist China.
Pol Pot – ‘ Holiday in Cambodia ‘
This cat and mouse tactic will continue with the NY leftist indefinitely to keep this a court case.
The Legislature’s authority is highly circumscribed in this matter.
If the Legislature continues to defy the courts, ultimately the plaintiffs will get to determine the law’s content.
If only the politicians of NY were subject to such scrutiny, maybe people wouldn’t be running away from the state.
Liberal “common sense”. Just Wow.
Liberal “common sense” is an oxymoron.
BZ, Sir.
Nice one, thanks!
Glad I don’t live in New York. And if you do then understand YOU are paying taxes to a government and people that HATE YOU.
YOU are in an abusive relationship and we in free states are here for YOU. But, don’t bring that garbage government with YOU.
It is all on YOU to make a choice. Live free or live under tyranny.
This all should greatly help the ” Ministry of Character Assessment ” issue RED FLAG Seizure orders.
That is one ugly miserable bitch.
And an unelected one.
Nasty Piglosi 2.0
Applicants will have to show they have “the essential character, temperament and judgment necessary to be entrusted with a weapon and to use it only in a manner that does not endanger oneself and others.”
They needn’t be concerned with all that. They do have their bodyguards.
He will get a permit.
He is in the “Club.”
Taking a step back and looking at this from the 30,000 ft. level, what this action means is nothing less than the demonic Hochul and New York Democrats giving the middle finger to the Supreme Court and saying in effect, “Ok, you’ve make your ruling, now enforce it.”
If this isn’t an insurrection, I don’t know what it.
^^^^ This , by reading the entire bill we find direct defiance of SCOTUS ruling , the expanded number of ” Prohibited Places “for CCW carry is , well , almost everywhere.
It’s as if a group of tyrants all got together and banned the first amendment, decided to write a law that highlighted why the second amendment exists and for kicks sent out a list of places where mass shootings by criminals would be welcomed.
Any questions?
Laws are for the other people.
It’s plainly unconstitutional, but New York politicians are of the “Go ahead and sue me; we’ll get away with it for as long as we can” school. And don’t imagine that New York Republicans will do anything about it. Talk about the teats on a bull!
More like a windshield wiper on a horses ass.
You mean these, Francis?
“We have an old country saying back in West Virginia, kids; never trust a New York governor who wears jumper cables on his nipples as an auto-erotic fashion accessory.”
Words to live by, General.
bwahahahaha
They passed this blatantly unconstitutional law while flipping off the S.Ct. They are going to end up getting constitutional carry, their worst nightmare, sooner than they think.
This is a distinct possibility: The USSC will override every jot and tittle of their legislation and leave them powerless to afflict righteous righteous men.
Democrats want to keep this issue white hot to fund raise off of.
It was almost like Texas knew this was going to happen. This past year they changed concealed carry to everyone can carry if they are a law abiding citizen, correct age, etc. In the past we had to take a class, fill out paperwork, fingerprints, pay, etc. Wonder if Governor Abbott decided to read the constitution?
Personal opinion, they should have kept a minimum of a required safety course for a CCL, only difference is you now don’t need the license. There are so many idiots out there who have no idea about firearm safety, therefore, making them dangerous.
Ohio now has constitutional carry, too. I do wish they had kept the requirement to take at least one class, though. I found the class extremely valuable and worthwhile.
A lot of law involved, if not knowledgeable, could really be a problem for someone.
What is outrageous is that the Governor of the State of New York is an overt traitor to the U.S. Constitution. Therefore people should take note that such attacks against the right to defend oneself, heretofore also known as “that special need”, to defend one’s family and community represent an existential threat to humanity, especially as it pertains to any Citizen of the United States of America. I find it astounding that New York’s tyrant Governor is trying to institute her own version of the Chinese Communist Party’s social credit score. Any amount of authority any Governor of any State of the Union exercises is bound down by their State Constitution that cannot violate any part of the Constitution of the United States of America. If Hoc hul can’t do that simple thing she should step down from that office of face the righteous wrath of anyone who still upholds the supreme law of the land.
“The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now.” South Carolina v. United States, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905).
“…the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” ~ The Bill of Rights – AMENDMENT II
I live in Texas and conceal carry everywhere. Those places, establishments, retail stores that have a 30.07 sign not allowing guns are places I don’t go. They don’t want my business and I don’t want to support them. Gun free zones are where a majority of the mass shooting occur! Wonder why?/s ChiCom Joe and the Democrats are delegitimizing the Supreme Court and as a result a lower Court with obama Judges will have no problem siding with New York State. It could take years to get to the Supreme Court again unless Justice Thomas intervenes? My guess is Lawfare will get involved supporting New York State and tying up the Courts with lawsuits, it’s what they do!!
i guarantee that “the essential character, temperament and judgment necessary to be entrusted with a weapon and to use it only in a manner that does not endanger oneself and others.” is not in any way codified in this law and is subject to the whims of unelected bureaucrats or vindictive, hateful politicians
Court’s will abolish the Bill.
This over-reach will go to the Supreme Court. Even the most “Progressive” Justices won’t back this.
I wonder how many of these “Progressives” will REEEEEE when that happens.
Serious 4th amendment violations anyone? So if you express political opinions that Democrats don’t like you will be judged as unfit to carry a gun outside of your home.
Second amendment hating politicians should be barred from seeking or holding office. It’s come to that.
Just one more reason I don’t have any social media accounts or a smart phone. Good luck to them. They will just have to do all the checking the old-fashioned way.
New York state government is nuts and Hochul is an idiot!
Why would people actually choose to live in a fascist state?
The recent Supeme Court 2nd Amendment case reiterated that people have a right to carry arms (weapons in commone use including handguns) in case of confrontation. Metro NY City is heavily dependant on public transit. If that mode of travel is unlawful, the right to carry is profoundly “burdened.”
Social media is essentially speech which is protected uder the First Amendment. NY is setting up a law which will force one to choose which right to exercise.
The NY proposed law will presume all private businesses are gun free unless the owner displays a guns welcome sign. It is highly likely any business posting such a sign would become the subject of protestors and a boycott.
It ocurs to me that NY is intent on making the law worse than what was determined to be unconstitutional.
(I posted this mistakenly on the Resistance discussion – – right church wrong pew.)
Why would anyone apply? Just go buy one.
I’m speechless with this. Which is what they want. My list of social engineering sites would be 0. A shorter list would be where can you carry – nowhere. Need to fix the voting system in NY to help not re-elect these idiots.
Would say that Kathy Hochul is some kinda commie, but she’s just a DNC operative, so the Democrat Party is a blatantly commie organization.
Why would anyone live in NY, especially NYC? High taxes, high muggings, high crime, everyone just about votes Democrat, meaning you can’t trust you neighbor. Then you have this crap.
By the way I was born in Manhattan in 1947 and at 18 joined the US Army and never went back. That was 1965 one year after the Harlem riots and I grew up 3 blocks from Spanish Harlem and 17 blocks from Harlem. Started reading Human Events and National Review in the military and after that NY made no sense to me at all and my ancestors built a large part of NYC: Kew Gardens and Richmond Hill in the Queens.
“Why would anyone live in NY, especially NYC?“
NYC is the world’s economic and cultural capital.
Is it desirable enough to live there that you would surrender your right to armed self-defense?
Call me a rube but no thanks!
New Yorkers get to correct this crazy lady’s actions in November. Freedom loving Lee Zeldin is a great antidote for overreaching progressives. The mid term election will happen before this issue gets on a court docket.
“…and is unlikely to hold up once challenged in court.”
Don’t think the state is worried about courts. The rule of law is very 20th C.
People in blue states want these kinds of restrictions. But it’s not a states’ rights issue because in this case the Constitution limits the state’s actions. So we’re left to consider whether the blue states and their leaders are in rebellion. And if that’s the case, do we do anything about it?
When some southern states opposed school integration the Dems used federal power to enforce the court ruling. It seems unlikely that we’ll see that now so I suppose we can conclude that internally we’ve decided to let the country dis-integrate. Taking no firm action either way is still taking action and will have the resultant consequences.
Americans on both sides are knowingly allowing the Constitution to be violated. The consequences of that will be extreme! Tic-toc.
Again, when our process is followed and the left does not get the outcome they desire, they decide not to play by the rules and in fact, criminalize doing so as retribution.
It’s almost as if these provocations are intentional.
Unconstitutional and contemtuous. Also, un-American anf tyranical.
Never stand up in court. It’s an invasion of privacy (Amd 1 Constitution). So someone will immediately file a motion and sue. But here’s the thing with me. All the money spent on lawyers and litigation over years if it goes through the usual appellate process is disgusting. The people (taxpayers) will pay for anything the state does so the state doesn’t care even though they already know it will be kicked out. No wonder people are leaving NY. I just wish they’d go to another state instead of here. They bring their disgusting attitudes and left leaning down to the South. And the native Southerns are getting disgusted by it. They need to stay there and fix their problems instead of bring them down here.
First: No it won’t stand SCOTUS muster assuming the bench remains the same. However it will take another 5 years to get there, and assuming the SCOTUS grants cert.
Second: If you truly believe all NY’ers are leftists that vote that way, you are ignorant. NY is, like CA, controlled by a few leftist population centers (NYC being the biggest) and rigged elections for decades. Most NYers who are leaving the state (myself included) are motivated by disgust for leftist authoritarianism and should be welcomed by any conservative state as a bolster to their already freedom loving political posture.
The law will probably be enjoined based on the Clarence Thomas opinion…
Ask native Californians what New Yorkers brought? Or VA? Or FL? Or AZ? Or NC?
Now they are coming in mass to SC and TN. Soon there will be no place left for any of us to run.
Here’s the list of once sane states that have been destroyed by Democrat infiltrators:
CA, WA, OR, NV, CO, NM, AZ, NH, VA, NC
Here’s the list of states that are in serious danger of meeting the same fate:
GA, SC, TX, MT, FL, and even KS and ID
At some point, they’ll even come for MS and AL.
If you grew up in Florida like I have you’d say it’s already past tense.
What we have today is the pandering game of pretending to be a social polical democracy… Not a constitutional state.
does invasion mean war?
Just as west coast lefties in conjunction with state worker unions have destroyed Alaska
You are absolutely correct re the communist state of Washington. The ridiculous fairy governor has gone full commie since the SCOTUS roe v wade ruling. He’s declared Washington an abortion sanctuary, made the clot shots mandatory permanently for state employees and has set his twisted sites on a power generating coal fired plant. This piece of human garbage couldn’t be any more pathetic if he/she/it tried. Pretty much everyone from the Cascades east ignores his ignorance. Nearly everyone I know travels to North Idaho for food, gas and major purchases just to keep from paying any tax money to the communist state and using all the plastic bags they want.
Yes. I am in CA. Look at an election map. The libs are in a few very large metro areas. Most of the state by area is conservative and yes conservative states should absolutely welcome those of us moving to their state. It’s really about urban vs rural. Not con vs liberal. Urban areas become lib because that’s where political power accumulates and the collective is a power source so they feed it. Individualism is not supported.
In that regard I think its a serious mistake to cede any territory to them including large cities. We need to take them back. The enemy is not going to retreat. We need to accept it and fight back.
Audit California
It’s called the strong city initiative and it has nothing to do with making our cities strong.
This was a U.N. Initiative that Osama and Lynch gladly rolled out and most states implemented it.
Yes, I remember back when it was all the news. Leftist destructive policies. Ugh…
GOOD WORD, for all our snakes we can not cede one inch of territory to leftist / demonic presences.
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Stand your ground my fellow citizens.
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Find one good County and/or City-Town municipality and elect BASED Sheriffs and other public officials.
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Hold public officials / school boards to account and kick them out if they don’t follow the US Constitution.
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Period full stop
Electoral colleges in all states now! One county, one vote.
Don’t blame the lawyers, you (s)elected the commie lunatics who are voting for this….And yes, anyone from the NYC are should be banned from moving out of State…
I am from Washington State and you couldn’t find a bigger constitutionalist than me. I have watched California’s destroy my state with their leftist drivel and have fought it at every opportunity. I have tried to open peoples eyes to how bad left leaning policies are for a community of law abiding citizens. Our elections have been so corrupt it just isn’t possible to turn the ship around in my State and my Grandchildren deserve better. For that reason after 60 years I will be leaving the State I was born and raised in. I would also encourage everyone thinking of voting for a democrat to watch a documentary by Eric Johnson called Seattle is Dying. It perfectly depicts what other states have in store for them if they do not keep a close eye on their elected officials. If residents of Boise, ID and Missoula, MT could watch I would be forever grateful as those are my top two States to relocate to.
Deplorable Granny
I was born and raised in Montana.
I also went to school in Boise.
Boise is your best bet as Missoula is full of flaming liberals.
It’s been that way for years.
I am unfortunately stuck for now here in Washington state.
Best of luck to you.
Northern Idaho State Rep Heather Scott is a born again Christian on fire for the Lord and Constitutional freedoms. She’s warned for years that Boise is the epicenter of leftist dogma which permeates the majority of the State Legislature. Read her past newsletters on the subject and see for yourself that Idaho’s going the way of Oregon and Washington; sucked down the tube of California’s no way out liberal dogma and policies.
https://repheatherscott.com/updates/
Unfortunately, Idaho is the leftists’ designated dumping ground for migrants and refugees. Their intention is to overwhelm the native population with suitably malleable imports in order to change the political composition of the State, eventually capturing its two U.S. Senators in perpetuity.
Needs Night Riders.
NOT IDAHO!
Northern Idaho State Rep Heather Scott’s newsletters will inform you the state legislature is all for the Great Reset and in the tank for every federal penny and policy DC offers. This was a shocking eye opener that made me decide Idaho will not be my retirement place.
Heather’s email subscriber list was hacked/leaked by a Democrat Idaho state legislator. For that reason she no longer uses her .gov account to send her newsletter. Here’s her last one. You can sign up at bottom of the link:
https://idaho.currentdebate.org/news-article/globalism-vs-state-sovereignty-the-choice-is-yours-on-tuesday/
Here’s her previous newsletters. They’ll shock you with the leftist libtard actions of the state legislature in Boise. Read a few of them and see how bad Idaho is and how bad it’s going to get. Only northern Idaho is the land of red, white, and blue freedoms.
https://repheatherscott.com/updates/
The sad thing is native, older or multi-generational Californians will tell you that what flipped CA – was the massive influx of New Yorkers long before the illegals.
The New Yorkers brought the politics that destroyed CA.
I had a very liberal friend who moved from Western New York State to California about 40 years ago. He passed away four years ago as one of the biggest Conservatives in California. The nonsense out there changed him for the better.
I lived in N. CA for 26 years. I met several East Coasters there, but they all went back, couldn’t stand the lack of “neighborhood”, the uprooted, transitory nature of the CA people.
The election steal from Rossi was the end of Washington. Once Washington went mail in ballots only there is no chance left for voters to vote their way out.
The vast majority of Commie lunatics in government and law enforcement are lawyers. The process is the punishment for the innocent of whom rights are deprived. System is robust. Humans are scum.
Yes, there are many scummy humans, which inspired James Madison, the principal architect of the U.S. Constitution, to write:
“If Men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and the next place, oblige it to control itself.”
When we allow those limitations on government power to be weakened or eliminated, we invariably invite tyranny.
The question for Southerners and other Liberty minded areas Is, Union or Constitution?
Clearly, we have No common identity with NY or the other ProgreSSive states.
A follow up link and thoughtful discussion amongst some fellow Southerners. btw, I along with these fellas do Welcome Yankee Rebels to form their own redoubts of liberty or join us as Patrick Cleburne did.
General Cleburne is still appreciated for his covering the retreat of the CSA at Resaca, GA. after the disaster of Gen Bragg at Chattanooga. The Ferals in Government are still Feral, though people and politics may change, Tyranny is tyranny.
https://rumble.com/v1ad3wu-not-sorry-show-06282022.html
The South was essentially Anti-federalist, and distrusted big gov’t. They were treated very badly by Northern-dominated Congress people, especially with tariffs which would benefit the North, and put heavy tax burdens on the South. Southern legislators pleaded with the North for a number of years, only to be turned a deaf ear..
That was the trigger for the War of Northern Agression. And was seriously exacerbated by the horrors of Reconstruction.
And it’s the same promulgators today…Northern aristocrats/Establishment types. Same people.
You are right about the law, but wrong about the NYers who are leaving this communist hellhole. See the comment by “pa ca”, and think about what you would do if your “elected representatives” so arrogantly passed a law in the face of a SCOTUS decision that already found it unconstitutional. We are political refugees, and there is no fixing this place. We used to be able to elect non-democrats statewide here, but no longer. We’re just thankful there are still places to escape to, and most of us just want to bolster the conservative majorities in the states we move to, not dilute them.
Thank you, R.
As someone raised in NYS, I can say truthfully that the state is populated with a large number of conservatives (upstate) who suffered under NYC rule for many years. These are good, hardworking people with loads of commonsense who love their rural life and heritage and where leaving the state would mean giving up family farms going back to the days of Ellis Island influx and before.
Many now realize it’s a hopeless, downward spiral in their beautiful New York State and, regardless the personal heartbreak and financial loss involved, are ready to toss it all and get out.
We should not punish them further with an attitude that is, at its core, “I’ve got mine so screw you.”
Law shouldn’t last a day as I imagine an injunction would be filed immediately.
Are you donating to a law firm that will file such a suit, like Stephen Miller’s firm?
These people fleeing blue hell holes should not be allowed to vote in municipal or state elections for two cycles.
“No person shall be eligible to vote in state or local elections unless that person has been a resident of the state for 18 cumulative years”
Amen, sister!!! Keep our lives safe from these attitudes and voting blocs.
Challenging these laws will take time, though. As one leftist put it to me some years ago, “We can enact unconstitutional laws faster than you can have them overturned.”
Puke. I heard the same thing some years ago. Need sharpshooter.
I do believe it’s for $$ mostly that democrats move to Southern states. Taxes, cost of living and then weather move them.
So yes, I think they keep their social ‘values’ the same and that causes the problems for conservatives there.
Most of the NY transplants I know here in western NC kept their Democrat values.
Do you think 99.9% of all Shysters believe in the constitution and our freedom ?
They are the number one reason this world is in such turmoil
Which is why I keep saying conservatives need to stop sitting on their hands and learn to punch these people in the mouth.
Once a population passes a certain level the results will always become “blue”. The jackass’s who keep saying we’re not overloaded with bodies and breeders are only helping this transformation take place.
If states don’t learn to curb their interstate migration they will all eventually fall off this cliff.
Amen
All of these lawmakers gleefully associated themselves with Nipplesticks Cuomo while he was murdering Grannies in Old Folks Homes, taking bribes and pawing the sexataries.
They should turn over a list of all their contacts to the People of New York.