In a 6-3 ruling [pdf HERE] the Supreme Court has ruled that New York state cannot require an individual to prove a “special need” in order to carry a firearm for self-protection. The ruling, likely to have ramifications for other gun restricting states, affirms the constitutional right of an individual to carry a firearm, and blocks the efforts of states to make the individual prove they have a need for one.
Writing the majority decision Justice Clarence Thomas concluded there was no historical requirement that law-abiding citizens show the kind of special need for self-defense required by the New York law to carry a gun in public. Indeed, as Thomas wrote, there is “no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need.” [Ruling Here]
SCOTUS BLOG – The state law at the heart of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen required anyone who wants to carry a concealed handgun outside the home to show “proper cause” for the license. New York courts interpreted that phrase to require applicants to show more than a general desire to protect themselves or their property. Instead, applicants must demonstrate a special need for self-defense – for example, a pattern of physical threats. Several other states, including California, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, and New Jersey, impose similar restrictions, as do many cities. (read more)
Leftists, particularly those who have recently become drunk on power from their COVID dictates, are apoplectic about the supreme court limiting the power of government to control the constitutional rights of the individual. It’s quite remarkable to watch the far-left lash out against the institution that has the role in our government to protect the constitution.
Criminals do not care about gun laws. What NY has done for 100 years is strip law abiding citizens of their natural right of lawful self defense. The state in fact is complicit in the murder of innocent by giving criminals the opportunity to prey on citizens.
The “State”is Criminal. We are however heading inexorably to a Reckoning. The NY Goobernator does know that much. More of Us need to come to grips with that. The democRats are Bolsheviks and will Never, Ever relinquish Power peacefully in 2022.
And the Decepticons are no better. This battle is both sides against us in the middle. We cannot lose. We must endure.
100 years, that is how long our Constitution has been under attack by political crooks.
We were not aware, it was a slow burn.
Most do know it now.
And criminal politicians do not care about our safety. Just ask Angel Moms
In 2020 the NYPD made 4,000 felony gun arrests which were almost all handguns and the New York District Attorney dropped charges in 3,000 of those cases because the defendants were Black and Hispanic. What is the purpose of having gun laws when a state won’t enforce them on the very criminals who repeatedly break the law?
Well my my, maybe the mobs of little communist larvae demonstrating outside their homes gave scotus a wake up call?
+1 “Communist larvae”
It’s pretty awesome!
Not really. This ruling has been in the can for quite some time. What I find surprising in that John “Squishy” Roberts sided with the 2nd Amendment here.
He’s not happy
His vote wouldn’t have swung the decision, though. I’ve heard others say that he tends to vote with the majority unless he can make a difference in the outcome.
LOL! You made my day with “little communist larvae”!
And thinking they will blossom into a beautiful butterfly, just as soon as they get more power.
yep
They don’t see things like that in Chevy Chase, MD much.
I wondered the same thing!
Anyone know the *names* of Justices who voted for and against?
I’m not seeing that info anywhere.
6 to 3
All conservatives voted against NY
Karen, Soto and Breyer on the other side.
You meant Kagan, Sotomayor and Breyer? Right.
Kagan/Karen. Tomato/Tomahto
I’ve heard Justice Kagan is slightly to the right of Justice Sotomayor but the hair that must be split doesn’t reside on my scalp.
Kagan and Breyer have rare moments of lucidity, the Latina Queen has no such moments. She is wrong every single time.
The Wide Latina.
Surely it should be “Latinx”?
Just shot water out my nose 🤣
Perhaps a better description would be Constitutional vs Anti Constitutional.
Though not even that works anymore, given some of the wretched decisions afforded to us by Gorsuch, Barret, Kavanaugh, and, last but definitely never least, the execrable “It’s a tax” Roberts.
Thx.
In the past it would’ve been obvious to me, but the way some of these so-called “conservatives” vote, I no longer rely on those assumptions.
Reject NY Law: Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Barrett, Kavanaugh, Roberts
Retain: Sotomayor, Kagan, Breyer
Thx.
Hochul is crazy ugly in the same way gretchen Whitmer is.
Their wretched soul contorts their outward appearance.
Jacinda Ardern of NZ slithered out of the same turgid mold.
Yes absolutely.
They all seem to be genetically related.
What a nightnare.
“The Girls From Brazil”!
Holy shit lol
She is also a product of Klaus Schwab from the WEF.(you will have nothing and be happy)We here in Australia have quite a number of members in our parliament including ScoMo(former prime minister)Greg Hunt(former health minister)and many other snakes in the grass.
Good stuff on Schwab here: The son of a Nazi collaborator who delivered plutonium to apartheid South Africa to build 67 nukes.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/02/investigative-reports/schwab-family-values/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Schwab
“He Has an Incredible Knack to Smell the Next Fad”: How Klaus Schwab Built a Billionaire Circus at Davos
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/01/how-klaus-schwab-built-a-billionaire-circus-at-davos
“crazy ugly” – you’re being too kind again
They look like they just got back from stirring a hot cauldron together.
They all go to same plastic surgeon, Nancy Piglosi’s perhaps. note shiny face Eyebrows up to hairline. So Creepy.
One more hitch up and she will be sporting a camel toed beard.
All of them look like they were set on fire and put out with a wet chain
The resting bitch face is etched deeply into their sadistic countenances.
The accuracy of that second sentence is jaw-dropping.
They both seem to be emulating Pelousy’s eyebrows and the 3 of them look like freaks or what they really are: WITCHES.
Their cult requires all men to be eunuchs, homosexuals or transvestites.
The worst part about the three dissenting morons on the Supreme Court is they completely ignored the constitution and wanted to focus on gun deaths as if that was a valid justification.
These same three morons completely ignore the deaths of those aborted at the same time.
I’m glad the liberals got this shoved in their ugly and reprobate faces.
Alito’s concurring opinion ripped the dissent a new one on their bogus obfuscations.
Alito
did a very good job with his
opinion
The mayor of NYC says we cannot have a wild wild west scenario in NY. Really? How many were shot last week. How about Chicago, New Orleans, Pennsylvania, etc, etc, etc. The wild west is already here only it’s not us starting it.
He said that about the Wild West because Cowboys are typically white.
Based
In the movies so be “gunslingers” and “range regulators” (a form of LE in the then territories) … so what does he care ? … Nothing to see in today’s demonrat cities and communities (“gang bangers” and another form of LE (but they’re “professionals”) …
History, actual history (I wish the demonrats [each and every one] like fraudchi would declare themselves “history”) as documented by historians and in gun rights books and scholarly articles, clearly evidences that the “Wild West” is mostly a figment of “dime store” novels.
adams is a typical affirmative action whore, who conveniently ignores that violence in America today and in the last 60 +/- years is localized in demonrat run and created cities and their “plantations” (housing projects) and Ghettos (black gentrification; HT spike lee).
Also, while at the moment I can only recall two (I know there be more) “Wild West” Flixs with “actors of color” – Buck and the Preacher (’72); Posse (’93); … Those are two which come to mind –
If any have access to the mayhore adams they might want to suggest “Intruder in the Dust” (’40) as worthy of his attention prior to his next bout of diarrhea of the mouth.
Better than that, find and watch, “Legend and LIES”, “The Real Lone Ranger”. A real eyepopper.
Blazing Saddles (’74).
The New York City DA drops 75% of the felony gun charges because the criminals are Black and Hispanic. In NYC 94% of the homicides are committed by Black and Hispanic males you would think they’d want to enforce the gun laws that they already have? Obviously they don’t!
Randy Newman had it right years ago with his song-its jungle out there
Randy Newman-Its a jungle out there–SO SO TRUE!
Lyrics for anyone who hasnt heard them for a while:
It’s a jungle out there
Disorder and confusion everywhere
No one seems to care
Well I do
Hey, who’s in charge here?
It’s a jungle out there
Poison in the very air we breathe
Do you know what’s in the water that you drink?
Well I do, and it’s amazing
People think I’m crazy, ’cause I worry all the time
If you paid attention, you’d be worried too
You better pay attention
Or this world we love so much might just kill you
I could be wrong now, but I don’t think so
‘Cause there’s a jungle out there
It’s a jungle out there
It’s a jungle out there
Violence and danger everywhere
It’s brother against brother
Pouding on each other
Like they would make a mess
It’s a jungle out there
It’s a jungle here too
You got a tap right on your phone
A microphone and camera check on everything you do
Call it paranoia as the saying goes
Even paranoids have their meek
I’m not the one who’s crazy, I’m not afraid of them
They’re afraid of you and me
I could be wrong there, but I don’t think so
‘Cause it’s a jungle out there
It’s a jungle out there
It’s a jungle out there
Even the cops are scared today
So if you see a uniform
Do exactly what they say
Or make a run for it
I’m only kidding with ya
‘Cause it’s a jungle out there
It’s a jungle out there
I wouldn’t get too excited about this ruling. Since squishes like Roberts and Kavanaugh sided with the majority that probably indicates a narrowly focused and weak opinion. Also, many states and appellate circuits like the 9th Circus have been ignoring and willfully misinterpreting the Heller and MacDonald decision for over a decade. They will do the same with this ruling. Rogue judges will rubber stamp every conceivable limitation on public carry and dare the Supremes to slap them down. Don’t bet on that happening anytime soon.
This decision encompass and specifically addresses the shenanigans of the circuits. It lays out in detail why the reasoning underlying the shenanigans was wrong; no two step process to evade Heller and specifically informs the lower CTs that strict scrutiny is the only acceptable level of scrutiny to apply.
Actually the decision was very strong and covered a lot of territory by eliminating the two step legal concept. Only STRICT SCRUTINY is allowed in 2nd Amendment Constitutional cases now!
YOU obviously did not read the opinion and supporting writings. Go back and do your homework instead of trying to dark cloud what is by all measures a celebration for freedom for all law-abiding citizens.
Kavanaugh wrote a concurrence, joined by Roberts, that undermines Thomas’s opinion.
People need to really read the fine print
Anybody in New York City with a modicum of sense “Goetz” it.
It’s Bern Hard for them to figure out until recently though.
Soon those who “take” (rob people) are gonna get “Goetzed”.
Everyone in the NY/NJ Metro Area also knows that criminal justice reform is rabidly “Anti-Semitic” I mean they free cop killers but keep David Berkowitz and Joel Rifkin locked up, that just ain’t right
That evil witch should look up the definition of a word before using it.
Why has she not spoke out about the guy who ran a crowd over and the NY court said he was not responsible for his actions ?
Tragic and wrong of the jury but an entirely different discussion.
Every “jury instruction” should include clear, consistent language about the “obligation” of the jury member to nullify any law they believe is unlawful in the circumstances. This would insure that the “insanity defense” was never viable.
The Court is making some well-thought out and logical decisions these days. They had to make this decision as it coincides with the Constitutional rights of Americans. Enough of ‘Some People” thinking they have any right to change the ‘complexion’ of a Country
I know this is certainly trivial but I still think furious is a more appropriate word than apoplectic.
I mean who uses that word
apoplectic?
I use it; it’s far more descriptive of insane anger than the word furious. I can deal with a furious person, with someone who’s apoplecti c, I run like hell (or loosen it in its holster).
apoplectic: “A state of intense and almost uncontrollable anger. (usually leading to a stroke)
“furious”means veins and arteries popping on forehead, “apoplectic”-oh dear, what do I do now!
Cool. Then can my state ignore Supreme Court rulings on gay marriage?
Our local Hochul is bringing back the legislature for an emergency session.
I do not believe her opposition will be helpful for her in the general election.
You need to quickly and assuredly coin that thought: “STOP ! You’re GOING HOCHUL on the issue !”
That’s a keeper.
Doesn’t do much good when they stop issuing firearms licenses to own said guns
The criminal element doesn’t require licenses. So I will assume they want to arm criminals.
They are destroying the supply chain. People will need to be able to hunt if it gets really bad.
I know the 2nd Amendment is not for hunting. I am trying to point out having a license is more than about self protection.
Don’t need one in Missouri…Constitutional carry
Constitutional Carry in Florida soon, I pray!
Yay! I might think about buying a gun someday but my wife would object!
Same in Ohio.
Leftists tyrants who have been installed into positions of power illegally are worried they might actually have to pay the ultimate price for their crimes against humanity.
Some have already legalized conspiracy to commit murder and murder itself. They want to practice treason, as well.
Looks like adulterated “vaccines” have been distributed to the “unwashed” for decades now. If they weren’t using the population as Guinea Pigs, then they wouldn’t need liability protection from the vaccine injured.
They wouldn’t block medicines, like suramin, that could help the autistic. And they wouldn’t have blocked OTC medicines that could fight C-19 in its early stages.
The media mostly spread negative propaganda against vitamins, minerals and other supplements that bolstered people’s immune systems.
Gun grabbers say —” Nobody wants to take guns away , thats ‘ conspiracy theory ‘ ”
Senator Debbie Stabenaow on C-Span just now on RED FLAG bill : ” We have been working on this for 8 to 10 YEARS “
Yup, and the Supremes need to re-affirm the rights of an individual to the due process of law and the right of the accused to be confronted by their accuser(s).
No more phoned-in tips either.
They already have last year in the Caligula v Rhode Island case. Made the police return the guys guns because no due process!
I’m sure nobody was punished for violating the poor guy’s civil rights.
Red flag laws need to be struck down in every state that has one.
One can only vote by showing a “special need” to vote, not because they have a general right to vote. That would be upheld. [\sarc]
I can only go to worship service by showing a “special need” to exercise my right to religious freedom. (proven during the divoC lockdowns, because everything was backward).
They obviously do not understand the meaning of, “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”.
Quick some one get this ruling to John Cornyn and his friends across the aisle. What part of “shall not be infringed” in the 2nd Amendment do they not understand? The DemocRat/National Socialist/Fascists and their RepubliCon/Rino friends across the aisle need to take a remedial course on The Bill of Rights.
Fun 24 hours, huh?
You got there before me, but , what the hay.
As soon as my son turned 21 he began the application process and training to get his NYS pistol permit.
Before he could arrange for his appointment with the pistol permit section, Covid hit and they closed down the office indefinitely.
During the closure, some of his references moved and his application became legally “stale.”
When he recently went to schedule a new appointment they told him that it would be 42 weeks before the next open appointment date.
42 weeks!
Commies and Fascist are experts on the big stall and bureaucracy et all.
It could very well be the court will continue to deliver conservative based, washington-hating decisions until Schumer
& Co sweep that rabble away from in front of their homes. The courts giving the middle finger to Pelosi for threatening
them & their families.
Great news!
Hawaii up next!
and several other states!
SHALL NOT INFRINGE.
SHALL NOT.
there is no question what this means
Shall Not is the key.
Get in their face and tell them:
The proliferation of firearm possession among law abiding Americans is the DIRECT RESULT of “Progressives” REFUSING to enforce existing gun laws on their own voter base.
Any Leftist squealing about this decision needs to know that THEY DID THIS.
See @RandPaul lay out all the problems with Red Flag law up for vote today or Friday.
Live C-Span now ….. check his Twitter page for replay.
Conceal gun permits are given away to the rich, powerful and famous people in NY for campaign contributions to Democrats. That’s really why Hochul is so upset. SCOTUS put a chink in their moneytrain.
That’s exactly true! In New York only the rich, powerful and politically connected like Bloomberg and Schumer can get a CCW! Meanwhile, the judges in NYC turn all the Black and Hispanic criminals free on the public!
And wasn’t PDJT a concealed carry licensee in New York, before, you know, the thing?
Yes, Hannity, O’Reilly and others like Michael Bloomberg, the owner of the Yankees, Mets and Jets. That’s the level of people who get a CCW in New York!
You Bet that’s why.
The question of importance, now that this ruling has come down, is whether the gun-hostile states can find ways to prevent their residents from acquiring permits without violating the ruling. Can they impose enormous fees? What about long, long delays? And finally, if they issue a denial without a stated cause, how protracted will the court fights be -and how many citizens will be willing to pursue them to a favorable verdict?
Cry more Ho’chul my cup ain’t full.
Hurray for SCOTUS!
The push is on from all directions to return America to feudalism – a few rich ruling a lotta poor people.
As night follows day, the special need for self-defence would only be granted to the rich and powerful. Alyssa Milano, the movie star (?) attended an anti-gun rally with an armed bodyguard.
Your rights, to the Left, are the rights of dependency and submission. What Obama calls “positive” rights.
I predict that citizenship will soon boil down to freedom or dependency on the welfare state: and many so-called conservatives will choose trading their freedom for more free stuff.
This is a very wise and timely decision by the Court, and is the best prelude we could want for the reversal of roe v wade.
Time to get real.
I guess the Mayor of NYC is not going to follow the ruling..isn’t that insurrection? No, he’s a Democrat, so not to worry.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED !!!
“Nothing Changes Today” – Lawless NYC Mayor Eric Adams Promises to Ignore Supreme Court Ruling on Concealed Gun Laws
Red Flag the INSURRECTIONIST! Cancel ALL his social media accounts. Send the FBI SWAT goons to his house at 5 am to put him in handcuffs and shackles. He is a danger to everyone and should not be allowed bail.
Ignore the Supreme Court ruling all you like, but your being setup for a lawsuit by someone. NYC has lots of city money to pay that lawsuit. With a city population of 10 million people, a $10 million lawsuit is only $1 per New Yorker. That’s Pocket change.
The special need requirement was radically unjust. As a business owner I could get a CCP. My life is not more valuable than a non-business owner’s.
We really need a strong Republican governor here.
I’ll bet Bucktooth Barbie has something up her sleeve on this….it is an election year after all.
Hochul’s body guards carry iron.
This is a sad day for criminals
The teachers in Texas had 58 minutes and plenty of time to write and file an “affidavit of need” waiting since the poleese who were sitting on their hands.
Wanna see some dimm tears look here:
Second Amendment: What the Supreme Court’s new gun rights ruling means – CNNPolitics
I felt a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of snowflakes all melted at once.
Already Mayor Adams in NYC said nothing will change there. Let’s see if he gets sued.
Let us ask ourselves, if we were on the Supreme Court and we could not get the POTUS, DOJ or US Attorney or the FBI to enforce the law in front of our homes while our families were being physically threatened inside, would we support the efforts of the administration or anyone who supports the administration. Probably not so much
Katie bar the door, we’ve got righteous PO’d SCOTUS on our hands. Now maybe they will understand how we feel.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Big Court has very recently ruled against red-flag laws and done so even beyond the 6-3 normal count. Not sure how broad the brush is with that ruling, but whatever these republican idiots in the senate are doing will likely get tossed-out in court pretty quick.
Not suggesting we don’t pay attention to how they are always working against us either. They (the entire Senate) are a bunch of reprobates. The founding-fathers wanted the senate to be insulated from the knee-jerk day to day political winds and be more long-term thoughtful. They never envisioned that such a dispicable bunch of lying whores would occupy that chamber. The current members of the Senate should be thankful it’s 2022 and not 1822.
You are not wrong.
I watched the Charlie Kirk show today and the lawyer who filed this suit that went to the SCOTUS; said what you are thinking and writing in your comment.
He did emphasize that Clarence Thomas left no room for maneuvering if a state ignores this ruling. He stated that they will try BUT even lower courts will rule against the municipality/state.
So, the conclusion is that this is very good for the constitutional rights of the American people and the US Senate may be passing an unconstitutional federal law. He pointed out, if that was the case, it won’t be long before filing of cases.
So, I went away with a good feeling.
It really doesn’t matter the games that the senate/house plays because at the end of the day, if they are passing unconstitutional laws, they will have a comeuppance.
I think a lot of us have probably read Clarence Thomas’ majority opinion or at least part of it.
Equally enjoyable is Justice Alito’s response to the dissenters.
Enjoy: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/06/23/alito-takes-a-blow-torch-to-liberal-justices-opinion-on-latest-gun-case-n2609218
Alito and Thomas are the 2 true constitutionalists on the court. The rest range between outright commies and squishy cowards, some possessing both of those deplorable traits.
You’d think that black folks would really embrace the courage and thoughtfulness of Clarence Thomas. He’s really fantastic to hear speak on anything. Instead, they listen to their “pastor”.
That is one sadistic Wiccan b**ch in the photo. Why does this style of facade continually get the thumbs up from the voting public? It baffles me. My spidey sense tells me by the resting bitch face this woman is nothing but crazy trouble. She is thoroughly annoyed that defense can be had against her kinds predation of the human species.
Nice to get a win once in a while.
BUT
SCOTUS Rules 8-1 in Favor of Republicans Defending Voter ID Laws Against Democrat Officials
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/23/scotus-rules-8-1-in-favor-of-republicans-defending-voter-id-laws-against-democrat-officials/
In an 8-1 decision, written by Justice Neil Gorsuch, SCOTUS held that “North Carolina’s legislative leaders are entitled to intervene in this litigation.”
Justice Sonia Sotomayor dissented in the case.
Wise Latina woman my Ass
The whole idea of needing a government approved permit to exercise a constitutional right is in itself unconstitutional. I wish the court would have gone a little further and outlawed concealed carry permits outright. I wonder how many gangbangers and other criminals have permits. (Not really.)
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Henceforth, I am referring to Senate’s gun bill, which is supported by 14 beleaguered Republicans, as the “Amber Heard Gun Grab Act.”
5:58 PM · Jun 23, 2022
That pedo lovin black woman who can’t define what a woman is, will replace Breyer.
FWIW: If this passes the Senate and the occupant signs it, I expect:
-Lawsuits filed based on constitutional laws
-Federal courts issue injunctions while constitutionality is determined with ongoing litigation
-If a lower federal court challenges SCOTUS; case goes back to SCOTUS where Red Flag Law will be ruled as unconstitutional
Between Justice Thomas and Alito; all bases are covered.
However, the Republicans can say to Schumer, etal…we did try working with you.
The timing of this decision is fortunate since tomorrow will really tick them off.
Pro life people might want to feel a little more protected if you know what I mean.
What’s depressing is the lack of logic in the dissenters’ arguments.
What Bryer wrote is truly embarrassing.
The $10,000 question now is:
Will the States change their laws/regulations or wait until someone sues them?
Progressives always ignore rulings that go against them, and the DOJ is political.
Yeah! One for our Constitutional Rights!
Already seems clear in the Second Amendment, but the NaziCrats are tearing madly at destroying all our Rights!