In a 6-3 ruling [pdf HERE] the Supreme Court has ruled that New York state cannot require an individual to prove a “special need” in order to carry a firearm for self-protection. The ruling, likely to have ramifications for other gun restricting states, affirms the constitutional right of an individual to carry a firearm, and blocks the efforts of states to make the individual prove they have a need for one.
Writing the majority decision Justice Clarence Thomas concluded there was no historical requirement that law-abiding citizens show the kind of special need for self-defense required by the New York law to carry a gun in public. Indeed, as Thomas wrote, there is “no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need.” [Ruling Here]
SCOTUS BLOG – The state law at the heart of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen required anyone who wants to carry a concealed handgun outside the home to show “proper cause” for the license. New York courts interpreted that phrase to require applicants to show more than a general desire to protect themselves or their property. Instead, applicants must demonstrate a special need for self-defense – for example, a pattern of physical threats. Several other states, including California, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, and New Jersey, impose similar restrictions, as do many cities. (read more)
Leftists, particularly those who have recently become drunk on power from their COVID dictates, are apoplectic about the supreme court limiting the power of government to control the constitutional rights of the individual. It’s quite remarkable to watch the far-left lash out against the institution that has the role in our government to protect the constitution.
This idiot.. hope he’s ready for some lawsuits.. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/nothing-changes-today-lawless-nyc-mayor-eric-adams-promises-ignore-supreme-court-ruling-concealed-gun-laws/
SUE the commie bastard. Better yet. Nah.
CW’s are messy affairs. NYPD Officers have some “choices” to make out on the streets. ……. as Do Police nationwide.
Oppose Constitutional Liberty at your own peril……. or Embrace it and your fellow citizens.
With the Illegal Invasion of Millions over the border both citizens and police are going to need each other’s backs.
Amen brother.
Funny how Democrats always ignore rulings they don’t like but the rulings they do like they go out of their way to impose it at every turn and even more. What if states ignored gay marriage ruling? They would be burning shit down every damn day.
States should have ignored Obergefell, because the SC was ruling on a case between individual parties, and did NON rule on a LAW, duly passed by Congress. Therefore, the ruling only applied to the parties to the lawsuit.
It DID NOT MAKE A LAW. All it would have taken was ONE STATE AG to stand up and make it clear that there was no law that applied to them, and that the state has its own laws, thank you very much. ONLY ONE.
And were none that would withstand this grossly unconstitutional interpretation of this ruling. NOT ONE.
Roy Moore and that county clerk whose name I can’t recall tried to resist. They were demonized by the GOP for their efforts.
Add to it that didn’t SCOTUS rule last year that red flag laws are unconstitutional? Now they are trying to pass national red flag laws?
What was true last year is irrelevant this year.
The Left never gives up.
Actually, lets be clear on this; they are NOTV”trying to pass a National red flag law”, because they know they CAN’T.
Remember Brandon campaigned on a “National Mask mandate”, and once in office, he mandated ON ALL FEDERAL PROPERTIES, a mask mandate; cause that is the limit of Federal power.
What Congress is passing, with its “power of the purse” is $, to ‘incentivise’ States to pass red letter laws.
IMHO, its important to be precise, both in our wording and understanding, of HOW the enemy operates.
The Federal govt really has very little power, that we don’t allow it to take, thru our ignorance, inattention or willingness to be bought off by Federal largesse.
Yep. The bribe is they key.
What’s even worse is it will be tax dollars used against the tax payer that doesn’t want the law.
It’s perverse and anyone who is OK with this literally hates Americans.
Let’s see how many Repub legislatures whore themselves out for the Feral $$$.
Repeal the 17th amendment. Lets get the ball rolling.
Stupid is, Stupid does.
He is an idiot.
Yup. So what happens when a black Democrat Mayor ignores the Supreme Court and the Constitution? My guess is the Supreme Court and Constitution both lose. They will do whatever they damn well please. There is no America any longer, only Ameristan. —
Sounds like insurrectionist talk!
So now NY begins to slow walk concealed carry permits. Then they get sued by multiple individuals who win their cases and NY pays out big bucks.
They are then reimbursed by the Fed who borrow the money from China and put it on our tab.
democRat mayor, democRat governor, democRat DOJ, democRat WHResident = Nothing Changes Today or ???
Even with a 2024 Repub President, Will he send US Marshalls to arrest the NYC Mayor??? He should, but that’s not the question.
It’s all parlor talk anyway. We will be at War long before 2024, domestic or foreign or both. I do hope patriots are prepared with food, self protection, and supplies. This is not going to be a drill, the learning curve will be steep and unfortunately deadly. I have so wanted to be Wrong.
We all wish you were wrong……we all wish that we are all wrong about the direction we are headed.
Parlor talk indeed! Such great perspective in those words!
Demonrat mayor, Demonrat governor, Demonrat DOJ, Demonrat…
There’s your answer….. all rats.
Don’t forget the ‘Ratpublicans’!
I have heard constitutions only survive 25o years; we will be done in 4 years.
Good odds.
Now who are the Domestic Terrorists??
Court to Hochul: Boo ya!
And SURPRISE SURPRISE, the DOJ and WH agree with Adams and not with SCOTUS.
Just waiting on Mitch, Mitt, Leslie and a few other distinguished leaders of the Republican party to fall in line with those sentiments while the majority run for cover.
Yes, let us all see their “TRUE” colors.
A great decision and surprising considering the political climate.
Now, where’s Dobbs?
I’m more interested in the CO2 ruling. If we lose the country is finished.
Yup, that one’s a biggee!!
Without CO2,…….. we all perish. It’s the balance of Nature, don’t ya know.
I see Alito pointed out to that moron that the existing NY law did nothing to prevent the Buffalo shooting
An abundance of laws will never stop evil doers.
The laws simply incompacitate law abiding citizens.
As the laws are meant to.
A disarmed populace is much easier to control.
Obviously.
A disarmed, broke and starving, populace existing in a two-tiered justice system in a country without dependable, reliable and affordable energy is much easier to control.
Or something like that.
What you have here is the Left’s vision for our future.
None of the top U.S. murder cities’ laws did.
In fact….
Wonder how much farther down the list the U.S. would slide if they removed Baltimore too….
Yep, or any city of 100,000 or more?
“They made their decision, now let’s see them enforce it”
Pretty much…
Even after the Heller decision, DC did not back down.
Yeh, reminds me of “Old Hickory” and “The Trail of Tears”‘
The following text lifted from NYC’s web site:
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If you have been elected, appointed, or hired by the City of New York, you must file your Oath of Office with the City Clerk.
When you file an Oath of Office, you swear to support and uphold the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the State of New York, and the Charter of the City of New York. You also pledge to faithfully discharge the duties to which you have been elected, appointed, or hired to execute.
The fee for an Oath of Office is $9 by credit card or money order made payable to the City Clerk.
Call 311 for assistance by phone.
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https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01736
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Public Officials may think an oath is a small matter BUT our Creator / Lord does not!
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Some people receive True Justice from the Lord of Hosts even in their lifetime.
One knife yielding wielding subway slasher shot dead by someone with a concealed weapon.
One gun carrying bodega robber shot dead by a customer with a concealed weapon.
One rapist shot dead by a woman with a concealed weapon.
One (or more) drive by shooter shot dead by someone with a concealed weapon.
This results in a reduction of crime.
This is what the mayor of NYC is afraid of.
by and large, people in NYC don’t want this Scotus ruling. Please understand that many Americans don’t like the Constitution and particularly the Bill of Rights.
are the people to whom you refer able to red English?
Score for our poor education system’s failure teaching the Constitution, among other things, like how to read and be proficient in math, etc.
Issue is cost to governance. It’s easy to prosecute a criminal, much harder to go to trial in a lawful shoot.
Ask Kyle Rittenhouse
And, prior to this ruling, the “hero” could/would/has been arrested, because they didn’t have a permit.
Actually, this could, and will continue if the “hero” can be found to have violated and gun regulation.
Those would be termed “taxpayer relief shots”.
Yep. The commies are all in on shredding the constitution. Anything that gives you freedom, they are against. But, hey, we already knew that.
Eric Adams does not appear very bright, Beetle juice also.
Something stands out when I think about this, please correct me if I’m wrong in my assessment.
Religion and government go parallel on the power scale.
Religion makes people believe it’s righteous to put up with injustice. Government has done the same. It’s a control mechanism. A “brainwashing” as it were.
Puts a different spin on Godly men.
Our duty is to fight this stuff it becomes blatantly obvious, not a suggestion.
But, today we are ridiculed for just those thoughts and ideas. In church or in government.
You ask “where did all the men go” there is your answer.
You are correct the Church Pastors have mostly failed their people, this is also true for Doctors, Gov School Union Teachers, Politicians, and Gov Employees.
Religion is a wrong target, imo. just because men have failed doesn’t mean religion has failed. The Pastors of the Revolution were called the “Black Robed Regiment” for their opposition to British Tyranny.
https://wallbuilders.com/an-appeal-to-heaven-flag/
The attitude that Christians should not fight against evil is not Biblical. Remember, God told the Israelites to “kill everyone” in the countries he was sending them through to the promised land because they were evil, offering their children in sacrifices, among other grotesque things. You know, sort of like we are doing today with abortion.
And this…. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10945871/Senate-votes-65-34-break-GOP-filibuster-clearing-passage-bipartisan-gun-control-package.html
Anything done now can be undone later and it’s good to know who needs to get gone. It’ll be like playing ‘whack-a-mole’ come November.
Alas, you’ll wait a lot longer than that for some of these Republican gun grabbers.
Anything done now can be undone later…
What planet do you live on?
Gun legislation??
According to John Cardillo who has read the wretched unconstitutional bill, “it’s filled with pork for Medicaid and the Department of Education, the most left wing of left wing causes.”
“Guns aren’t even mentioned until page 25.”
Rand Paul is trying to introduce amendments addressing the most egregious aspects of the bill. Somehow I doubt he will be successful.
Corruptocrats’ game, corruptocrats’ rules. Private Club, Members Only.
I think a lot of the Medicaid costs will go to the corrupt and hapless Puerto Rico, which pays no income tax to the US Treasury, but insists that they get 100% Medicaid funding. Most states only get 55% at most.
We need to just cut them lose. A total millstone around our collective necks. GD parasites.
Wait until the Ukraine is officially America’s 2nd Puerto Rico!
Big bucks allocated for the FBI also.
$100,000,000.
I would say, “Strap it on”, but in today’s world I might be misinterpreted.
LOL! Especially during ‘Pride’ month 🙂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 The freaks are always strapped. Batteries not included!
Oh, no, Bob. TMI about the batteries!
Christina Aguilera already did. Disgusting.
I live in one of the moronic states that requires ‘proper cause’ to carry. Shootings occur here daily, is that proper enough?
This ruling should cover all states that have that goofy ruling.
It’s going to go from “may issue” to “shall issue”…as in MUST. They’ll still jerk you around by making you pay exorbiant fees but that will go to SCOTUS and the thing with that is it would probably put the NFA in the spotlight. This is a big win that also sets the stage for future rollbacks of gun control.
I’m all for a background check to purchase a handgun. But no need for any other ‘permit’ BS. The 2A IS our permit.
I used to be for background checks. Then I realized that they were never serious about keeping the data up to date. We have even had mass murderers pass checks when they should have failed.
Doing something, anything, is often just a ploy. They don’t want anything or something, they want a very specific thing. They are not going to let anything else work until they get what they want.
But in the meantime, we develop the habit of jumping when they say jump. It will just be a matter of time before we give them what they want. And it will be at their command.
JUMP!!!
(If you didn’t flip me off, you need some more practice.) 😎
well said
And, more so, the SCOTUS ruled a long time ago that the government cannot tax or charge a citizen to exercise their rights. Yet….most of us have to pay to go get a CCW. We have to pay for the paperwork. The background check, etc. This too is unconstitutional.
Eroded away piece by piece.
There is hope in this ruling that the same 6 Justices will demand a far more detailed description within RED FLAG LAWS, with respect to the obligation of the State to “show cause” as well as “more defined, specific, stringent requirements to safe guard due process”.
Make no mistake, at least 3 of the 6 Justices ruling against the NY Law (Roberts, Barret and Kavenaugh) have clearly demonstrated that they are “Public Good prevails over Individual Rights” believers, meaning they will support properly written RED FLAG LAWS.
The position of Justice Neil Gorsuch, on “Public Good” is 50-50.
You probably have some form of them in your state now, you just don’t know it because you are unaffected by it.
Yep … Been in place Local to National Levels ever since laws and regulations have been in place requiring background checks.
A background check is just another form of RED FLAG Law.
Republican appointed POS cowards. All three would fit in good on Uvalde Police Dept..
Who the heck are you talking about?
Such a negative response to a WONDERFUL ruling. EVERY ONE OF THE GOP appointed justices voted to overturn that law.
I mean, unless your sole purpose is just to try to sew negativity and unhappiness toward the GOP.
But you dont even get your facts(sic) straight.
Kavanaugh helped write the Patriot Act. Roman Catholucs are big into top down government and authority, as opposed grassroots democratic type.
I’d love to celebrate but I think this is a sleight of judicial maneuvering. I fear that they will promote a surveillance state and power unseen before, and that they will allow ‘mental health czars’ to replace the jury system (of one’s peers).
There can be no appeasement, no abdridgement of due process or of the Bill of Rights.
Your assertion about Catholics is pure BS and unecessary.
If your pea brain even had the slightest comprehension of the basis of the Catholic faith as well as ALL Christian Sects you would know free will, self-determination and responsibility for oneself are among of the cornerstones of “the faith”.
I was raised Catholic. So spare me the ‘yer ignorant’ crap.
The American patriots who fought for and founded this government did so in direct rejection and refutation of Roman Catholicism. Early Americans wanted to cleanse the Church of England of the vestiges of Rome.
Go away, you POS. You dont like Catholics, fine. Take it elsewhere.
Take your hatred of the founding stock and its values elsewhere. Why did you leave your Catholic-run sh*thole?
I don’t hate Catholic people but I do despise their pedophile woman- and middle class- hating cult. Its overarching values are sick despotic and degenerate. Your Catholic forebears agree or else they would not have come to a system created by anglo protestants.
Fine, well and good. Take your bigotry and hatred to your KKK meeting or the next meeting of the Know-Nothing party.
I dont have Catholic forebears, fool. I am a convert to the Catholic Church. Take your continued nastiness and stupidity elsewhere.
Isn’t there a big Lawfare staffed Anti-Catholic Defamation League somewhere? No! I can’t imagine why. LOL
No free speech? Hmmm
Read the Treehouse rules, Missy. These type posts are not allowed here.
The way I remember it, the early Americans wanted to cleanse themselves of the Church of England, hence that little detail they wrote about Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
Actually, the cousin of the Jesuit priest who founded Georgetown University was the person who lobbied for the freedom of religion clause. He bribed his way into the circle of authors who wrote the Constitution. He came from Maryland and the richest Catholic family in the US.
The Spanish and Portuguese Catholics and Jews created the transatlantic slave trade, not any anglo protestants or KKK. Anglo protestants led the fight to free slaves aka the Civil War.
The Roman Catholics, Jews and non- whites run the urban hellscapes everyone is running from but somehow we’re supposed to defer to their historical fiction expertise. Sure ..
Sorry, Laila15. Your history is a bit skewed. Queen Elizabeth I was big into the slave trade. Read some REAL history, please.
Sources?
Not siding with anyone here, just sayin’ Laila – where are your sources?
I have a degree in History from one of the top departments in the US. These facts are so basic to american history I’m shocked anyone questions it, frankly. Try google for starters.
Self determination? LOL. In a hierarchical organization, anybody who steps out of line is ostracized at best. Back in the day, they were burned alive, later excommunicated. We non-Catholics whose ancestors escaped being drowned or burned alive by Papists for being Anabaptists know your lot’s drill all too well. We also are NOT represented on the High Court AT ALL.
And that has been intentional.
Oh,really? Where are you from? The Pilgrims came to this country to escape persecution from the ANGLICAN CHURCH IN ENGLAND.
The Scots came here to escape persecution from the ANGLICAN CHURCH IN SCOTLAND.
Stupid people showing their bigotry and ignorance at the same time.
The American Revolution was powered by the Presbyterians and non-anglican protestant denominations. In the North Episcopalians were what these Anglicans who considered themselves part of the Church of England were called. Both were part of or close to the Church of England.
LOL,. your fears and your anti-Catholic attacks betray you just cannot be happy even when you have won.
Really sad state of affairs.
“Make no mistake, at least 3 of the 6 Justices ruling against the NY Law (Roberts, Barret and Kavenaugh) have clearly demonstrated that they are “Public Good prevails over Individual Rights” believers…”
As usual, the doc is 110% correct. Attorney Robert Barnes warned over and over that Barrett was for big government and against individual rights. Many conservatives ignored him and couldn’t fawn enough over Amy Phony Barrett. Those conservatives don’t make a peep now that she’s voted 80-90% of the time with the left.
I would get attacked on conservative sites when I said Barrett was a terrible choice and was no friend of our side. In most cases, she’s on the side of big government over the individual. Lockdown Amy ruled that locking people down indefinitely and allowing liquor stores and pot shops to remain open while churches had to close was just fine. She never should have been appointed to the Supreme Court. She’s come down in favor of vax mandates and every other absurd covid restriction regardless of the science or constitution. She’s like Rehnquist-in most cases, she believes the government can do whatever it wants and individuals have no rights.
All of the signs were there prior to her appointment, from her prior rulings to her family life, yet conservatives gushed over what a great appointment she was. For some reason, many on our side are enamored of putting the kind of women who dominate their husbands in charge of things, and it never works out. Look at Joni Ernst and that joke of a former senator from Arizona.
I warned my friends about her, but people were so enamored of her that their ears were closed to the truth.
An ex parte law is a grodd violation of a person’s right, on several points. Can’t face your accuser, have legal representation tion in court, Miranda Rights, etc. No presumption of innocence. How can they do that?
I can’t disgree with you. Yet we have at least 3 , maybe 4 Supreme Court Justices and many more in the “Legal Profession” who have somehow inserted “Public Good” as test that over rides individual rights.
“Public Good” is the way ex parte rulings will be inserted. The only hope is that Judges remember to demand stringent the due process, and show cause requirements.
Also, need brave lawyers willing to attack the foundation of the “Public Good” argument with facts. This point, is the reason for so many losses related to and persistence of the “COVID” related mandates. The Government has hung its hat on the “Public Good” defense and NOBODY has presented facts to refute the basis of the defense.
The other legal gimmick is the inverse of the 2016-2017 “intent” defense used to defend the Clinton Servers.
SCOTUS Live Stream! HUGE Win for Guns with Bruen- Miranda, Death Penalty, (Superchats Enabled) – YouTube
Styx covered the ruling and points out how some of the wording from several of the justices are going to help further rollback gun control in the future. This is a big win for us, and I suspect was done by SCOTUS as a middle finger towards Congress for screwing with them lately, especially with Roe v Wade. This ruling absolutely undermines the current push for gun control in Congress.
Agree in full!!
The “Miranda Ruling” is a mixed bag, depending upon interpretation.
The Supreme Court appears to have exempted law enforcement and the courts from people seeking remedy when Law Enforcement does not “Mirandize” a suspect and information gained is allowed to be used in court.
An expanded view of this ruling and new precedent is the police no longer have to issue the Miranda Warning and Courts can allow evidence gained from a non-mirandized suspect.
Only in a Democrat’s mind does a law abiding citizen pose a threat to their lust for power. Hey Democrats, you know how to stop a CRIMINAL with a gun? Yes the arrival of more guns or the mere presence that someone is packing heat. Get a grip. Pretty sure gun violence will go down.
The entire purpose behind the second amendment is that law abiding citizens have a right to hold a threat to the government’s lust for power.
Correct EW , the citizen maintains the ultimate veto power over tyranny
I live in New York City. I will now apply for a license, but NYC rejects applicants without explanation. I don’t have a lot of faith the NYC authorities will follow the law.
It costs $350 for a concealed carry permit in NYC and it is good for 3 years. Every 3 years you must renew your carry permit.with an entirely new application. Everything is done on line through a unit of the NYPD.
Start your application here and attach todays 135 page decision 🙂
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/services/law-enforcement/permits-licenses-firearms.page
Where they ask about your need to have a concealed carry permit refer to todays decision.
Next join a gun rights organization because you are going to need their help.
Move to Dutchess County or Southern Connecticut. It’s much easier and you’ll enjoy life a lot more!
Will national reciprocity be next?
Everyone has a right to lawful self defense.
Now lets see how they rule on Duncan V Bonta.. It has the same two step frame work and ‘intermediate scrutiny’ against it…
They very well may remand now based on this ruling.
Remand is the best solution now! Give the 9th a b!tch slapping!
Ignoring goes both ways.
I have a good friend who lives in NYC now.
He told me, point blank, that most NY’ers ignore the laws, and carry anyways. Pretty much across the board….
He put it like this. ” There are 9 million or more people who enter NYC to work on a daily basis, and if guns were a problem, then everyone would know it!”.
I would say the man was correct.
So glad to hear it!
No supply chain shortage on liberal tears.
Since I am done taking the proverbial high road, I hope they bleed from their eyes!
Good point, no high road taking here either. Keep your powder dry.
https://beckernews.com/here-are-the-19-worst-media-meltdowns-over-the-scotus-ruling-defending-americans-gun-rights-45542/
The angry torrent of rage spilled forth from blue check Twitter, where Auron MacIntyre did the yeoman’s job of compiling the worst “blue check meltdowns” in an epic thread.
Read:“Worst blue check meltdowns over the SCOTUS gun ruling”
These progressive blue checks and their liberal coddling of criminals in particular felons and policies defunding of police are the reason I have to conceal carry all the time!! So screw all of them!!! Come and take it!!!
The left sucks at this. Every tweet was unoriginal disproven fringe left boilerplate bs that nobody with a brain hears anymore. Those tweeters represent the shallow end of the intellect pool.
I hope and pray everyone of those morons gets home invaded, raped, beat, and tortured by gun wielding thugs, and the cops don’t show up until it’s all done.
F–K THEM. It’s what they deserve.
I read a brief excerpt of the opinion that indicated 2A decisions should be based on text and traditions alone, and not tiered scrutiny which many courts have used to infringe on citizen’s rights based on the protection of society (greater good).
IMO, this should also strike down many of the 9th circuit rulings, magazine bans, scary gun bans, etc.
Armed Scholar should have a more detailed video out on this ruling later today or tonight.
Like the vast majority of Marxists/Democrats, Hochul doesn’t seem to get that the right of the people to keep and bear arms is the law of the land and as such should not be enforced selectively or capriciously, based on one’s preference, notion, whim, etc.
It’s nice to see the justices doing their job, for a change, instead of caving in to the hysterical demands of the Left and the media.
That’s how they supposed to rule on every issue in front of them.
She does nothing about criminals with guns creating all the violence. They don’t have a license and they get bailed out or no jail time. So if she wants to end violence she should go after the criminals not law abiding Americans.
Clarence Thomas EDUCATES Dems on Gun Rights –
“Even before the Civil War, Chief Justice Taney recognized that public carry was a component of the right to keep and bear arms -a right free blacks were often denied in antebellum America.”
California can suck it too.
This is an important victory, particularly how SCOTUS dispensed with the ludicrous “two-step” test. However, the liberal courts of appeal will just shift their intellectual dishonest arguments to a different part of the battlefield. For example, in Duncan v. Bonta, with a petition currently pending before SCOTUS, concerning magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds, the regulation was ruled unconstitutional years ago at the trial court level and ruled unconstitutional again by the first 9th Circuit panel. However, en banc, the entire 9th Circuit reversed. It applied the “two step” test. It “presumed without deciding” that the regulation impinged the Second Amendment, then went straight to the second step where, of course, they decided that the government’s interest in the regulation outweighed the individuals right to bear arms. Now that that test has been thrown out, SCOTUS will probably remand the case back to the 9th Circuit for rehearing consistent with the new decision. BUT I WILL BET YOU DOLLARS TO DOUGHNUTS that upon rehearing the liberal justices will reverse its prior presumption, give renewed focus to the historical arguments, find that the long history of capacity limitations (that doesn’t exist) justifies the newly imposed regulations. It is just how they roll… The unconstitutional regulation will get a few more years of life, and may even become the law of the land if SCOTUS does not want to get into the weeds and take up another gun case so soon.
Tommylotto : there is a reason it’s known as “The Nutty Ninth” the most overturned court in history
I like to call this governor Tyranhochul. Signed, a Neanderthal (who will never be her covid apostle either).
Suck on that leftists!
There are to me three distinct points regarding personal fire arms….
The first is the cities with the most gun legislation and restrictions are also the same cities with the top deaths from firearms…. by civilians or members of the public.
The second thing is that any amount of legislation will not prevent the bad guys from having their weapons……
The third thing is legislators want to take away your ability to defend yourself while having security service of one sort or another working to provide their safety……
In other words laws for you ………not me. Kinda one sided eh?
While this ruling is GREAT , the fight continues – CALL your Senators and tell them NO on Cornyn Red Flag Bill = ” Bipartisan safer communities act ”
202-224-3121
@gunpolicy says it may go up for vote TODAY
Text of bill , page 35 line 20 — ” the right to be represented by council at no cost to the government ”
So if you can’t afford a lawyer , then what ?
How is any different than what SCOTUS ruled last year?
https://libertas.org/personal-freedom/supreme-court-ruling-delegitimizes-red-flag-laws/
Best guess, they are all lawyers and are doing a workaround.
Alito made an interesting comment in his concurrence.
While the Second Amendment does refer to a “well-regulated Militia,” the Amendment then specifically says that the “people” have a right to bear arms – not just the militia, but the people, including non-militia members.
And, the militias were comprised of private citizens. They did not answer to any national government. They didn’t answer to a state one, either, not to mention that the colonies weren’t even states yet anyway
Research Ethan Allen, leader of the Green Mountain Boys in what is now Vermont. He and his crew bowed to no governing body at all. Groups like them made the difference between victory and defeat during the American Revolution.
Yes. Lefties have ALWAYS relied on (improperly) conflating the two groups mentioned in 2A to try to persuade their brainwashees that only the military and LEOs can own and carry arms.
In this case…the filth and trash that is New York state begets a return to revered US Constitution. I can hear a howl from America’s Leftist big-cities nationwide! Their chosen ‘citizens’…inner city black thugs and newly arrived mexican criminals will at least face a partially armed array of victims. It will take some time for law-abiding Americans to become mentally prepared to make proper use of our newly re-minted freedom…but over time, we will adjust, and the days of easy pickin’s will soon be a thing of the past. We need to institute a daily ‘ticker’ to track the bad-guys who have been ‘terminated’. That would be a very visual deterrent!
Suggest taking a concealed carry class.
It clarifies that in pretty much every case, excercising your right to self-defence will change your life, for ever.
Firstly, there is criminal court, …THEN, even if you survive THAT (at much personal expence) there is CIVIL Court, where you can/will be sued for “wrongful death”, and with a different, significantly lower “standard” of proof, and finally their is “the Court of Public Opinion” which has absolutely NO “standards” for proof.
I don’t see that changing significantly, based on this one ruling.
You are correct. However, it may actually give some people an opportunity at self-defense that they did not have before.
My brother-in-law, who has his CA carry permit, said that in CA if you shoot more than twice you’ve used excessive force (or something to that affect). Could you imagine being attacked and trying to remember to only fire twice?
Need a national castle doctrine to protect people who are put in a situation to use deadly force to protect themselves.
Dutchman: True.
So it comes down to It was him or me and take your chances.
What is incredible to me, given the Justice’s reaction to the fraudulent election, is that they had the courage to stand up and properly and appropriately interpret the individual’s rights under the Constitution!
Now if that same courage will see them through to do the right thing about the Roe v Wade decision, I will have a new and increased respect for them.
The Left is out of control and over the top. We can’t give in to their threats, tyrannical behavior and unreasonable demands. I do hope the Justice’s will be strong! God Bless them and I’ll keep them in my prayers.
I think we saw Chief Justice Robert’s reaction to the election. Had Justice Thomas been the Chief Justice there would have been a different outcome.
Makes you wonder why Roberts, with his youth and inexperience, was made CJ. I could never figure out that one.
Never fear, there are plenty of OligarchWhores in the United States Senate & HoR that are going to ignore Caniglia v. Strom & bribe the states to disarm anyone they dam well please to with 🚩 laws.
Yes. That’s the plan. They want to meld the criminal justice system with the ‘mental health’ one so that state kommissars replace juries of one’s peers and gulags replace prisons.
Big Brother wants the best for us. It’s all about ‘care’ and ‘restorative, compassionate rehabilitation’ and ‘treatment.’
The real word to watch is ‘access.’ They will tout ‘access to treatment’ when they really mean government’s (and the corporatocracy’s) access to you.
I watched when Coryn made the claim “It’s up to the States”. Whichever ones will take the bribe, is my guess.
Could this be a sign that this is an END to the SCOTUS trying to appease the terrorist left?
It should be.
There is no appeasing the terrorist Left.
“Either assimilate or die!”
is its credo.
Then maybe you should make sure that they get their wish.Except that they MUST assimilate or die.Lol.
The fact that they refused to hear cases on the 2020 steal would signal NO no matter recent rulings.
My point is they may be sorely regretting that decision. Their lives are now under threat. Law enforcement protection is insufficient. They LET this lunatic get close before they stopped him — that was a “warning shot” directly at SCOTUS. (You know, “the next time we may not be able to stop them!”)
It’s time to stop being cowards. Appeasement doesn’t work. Apologies are blood in the water to the left.
Regret they may but they were complicit in political climate we are in now. Just because they have a change of heart now does not absolve them of their complicity. SCOTUS is just as responsible as the lunatic left and Biden for everything we are experiencing now.
Maybe a few of them got tired of having their lives, families and homes threatened?
There is no real Left v. Right. There is only the Uniparty v. the people and/private citizen.
Don’t get too ahead of yourself Daniel – Ketanje Brown Jackson has yet to be sworn in!
Nah, i think they are just building up to give the lefties the next win. they always do it that way. keeps everyone happy that way.
Perhaps delaying security for SCOTUS after the assassination attempt on Kavenaugh, and DOJ/FBI allowing protestors to terrorize the judges at home has given them backbone.
How do we ship these idiots out of America?
This is why EVERY man, woman and child should be required to take and pass a US Constitution certified curriculum program like the one put out by Hillsdale college.
Instead we teach CRT and all the other BS.
The Left who control “Education” fear a population with knowledge of the Constitution.
Such knowledge is
dangerous to the Left’s agenda.
On the topic of guns, how many here have seen this story.? I’m still trying to verify that an armed school official initially confronted the perp and chased him into the school gym where LE finally put him out of his misery:
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/14/1104904845/police-dallas-area-kill-gunman-summer-camp-for-kids-duncanville-fieldhouse
Senate is talking about Gun Grab bill on C-Span now ……. Likely vote to follow
Cornyn is giving lip service to ” Due Process ” which is laughable when they TAKE your property FIRST , then you get a court date -Later !!!
Same jacka$$e$ probably support Civil Asset Forfeiture, it’s another unconstitutional money grab by law enforcement that essentially makes cash (“large” amounts) illegal.
Bill includes massive – ” grow the police state ” funding
text : murphy.senate.gov – Bipartisan safer communities act
This, and not affording the accused a lawyer at Govt expence, are some of the many aggregious aspects of this odious legislation.
There is no such thing as “mental illness” it is an artificial construct, and psychologists/psychiatrists have not shown any crystal ball like accuracy, in magically being able to detirmine who is or isn’t “a threat”.
Crazy, (a term psychologists don’t use) is something we can generally agree on, but mental “illness” transfers a MEDICAL term, applying to disfunctions of the body, to try to label and classify disfunctions of the MIND.
DR’s can look at the BRAIN.
They can use various devices, CAT scans, MRI’s, PET scans, etc. to evaluate, objectively brain functioning.
They can operate on the brain, or on autopsie even remove it, hold it in their hand, dissect and study it.
Cam’t do ANY, not ONE of these things, with THE MIND.
So, mental “illness”; no.
Great opinion by Judge Thomas. Love him.
Keith Olberman said today that the Supreme Court should be disbanded after this ruling. The lefties are losing their minds today.
Only demonstrating the division in this country. It’s deep, wide, and unbridgeable for the foreseeable future.
More insurrectionist talk.
Lock them up without trial!!
Isn’t that the new precedent?
comrade Olberman lost his mind….looooooong time ago.
The question is….Will this decision have any effect on the unconstitutional gun law congress is ramming thru?
I would think Justice Thomas’ quote cited by Sundance above will have broad ramifications to a host of unconstitutional behavior:
“as Thomas wrote, there is “no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need.””
Thomas is so clear and lucid.
Is there any time when there’s not “a moment of national reckoning on gun violence” for the Dems and the MSM?
New York mayor says he will not comply.
There is a way New Your State and other states can continue on with their laws — secede from the union so they are no longer bound by this constitution. And I hope they do! They would become kings without a kingdom in a very short time.
Decisions have been made on the remaining cases before our Supreme Court.
What are the odds that Chief Justice Roberts has decided the order of exposing those cases for reasons he alone knows?
Which means: If and when the abortion case is presented, it will achieve what in his mind?
My first responce, was focusing on the vote of 6-3, THAT to me is surprising,…
Ramifications; what doed this say about “Free Speech Zones” established around politica conventions, Presidential speeches, etc.?
Finally a step in the correct direction to defend the Bill Of Rights .
Fact : The Bill Of Rights is a restriction on government so the next move for Constitutionally minded free citizens is the right to due process . Thinking of the Red Flag Laws . No Proof no oath or affirmation just a warrant to confiscate private property with no reasonable legal reason other than an anonymous tip that corrupt law enforcement could easily use as a harassment tool
Should be the same with civil asset forfeiture and “cash”. I’ve watch quite a fe woo Lento’s Law videos on various civil asset forfeiture cases throughout the country. It’s sickening what they can do with no repercussions. The actual cases are filed as the “Cash” v. The government.
Even if no charges are filed it doesn’t mean you’ll get your money back.
I wonder if John Cornyn will work with the Democrats to overthrow this Supreme Court ruling.
The Mayor of NY just said he would instruct his officers to ignore the decision and enforce the law determined to be unconstitutional.
” Deprivation of Rights Under Color Of Law ” – is a thing.
US vs. John Bad Elk is a thing too. ( Right to use force to repel an unlawful arrest )
Dictators usually ignore court rulings. And that is what Adams is. And to think this moron campaigned on lowering crime in his city.
…”at a moment of national reckoning on gun violence” ss the exact moment in time that our 2nd amendment right should be reaffirmed by the court. That the progressives’ heads explode over it, is just a bonus.
Who voted For/Against?
I’m not seeing the vote breakdown anywhere.
6 – 3
Yeah I know.
I want NAMES. Anyone got ’em?
The usual.
Most importantly, this ruling affirms the fact that the 2A does not GRANT the RIGHT to bear arms, because that right preexisted the Constitution and is UNALIENABLE, and (correctly) restates that the 2A was written as a LIMITATION to the power of the GOVERNMENT.
Sundance, you wrote: “It’s quite remarkable to watch the far-left lash out against the institution that has *THE* role in our government to protect the constitution.” (Emphasis added by me.) Your use of the definite article “the” rather than the indefinite article “a” suggests that you are saying the SCOTUS is the ONLY such institution, with which I respectfully disagree. All three branches of the federal government, AND all three branches of EACH STATE government have a role in protecting the federal constitution. Indeed, right now we desperately need the state legislatures in the swing states to decertify the results of the 2020 election TO PROTECT THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION!
In Brandon’s comments on this ruling he said “this ruling contradicts both common sense and the Constitution, and should deeply trouble us all.”
The Supreme Court is here to uphold the constitution and he states that this ruling is not following the constitution. You can’t get any more bizarre than that. And his voters believe his hogwash!
IMO Coryn, McConnell, Graham, McCarthy and so many other RINOS have done as much if not more damage to this great republic and its law abiding and Constitutional loving citizens than the leftists.
Americans must never forget who are the real snakes in all of this.
Going to get really really interesting out there with the new gun law the feds just passed with a Red Flag clause in it.
Last year SCOTUS struck down Red Flag Laws as unconstitutional.
Just this week Supreme Court says Constitution protects right to carry a gun outside the home in response to NY’s long time gun law.
JFK was a genuine WWII hero who saved the life of one of his guys when PT109 was hit and sunk by a Jap ship. He was the last Democrat with integrity, intelligence, and true courage.
https://www.history.com/news/jfk-wwii-purple-heart-torpedo-boat
McMahon’s burns were still fresh and agonizing. In what’s perhaps the most enduring image of Kennedy’s heroism in the South Pacific, the young lieutenant, himself suffering from a serious back injury, cut a strap from McMahon’s life jacket and clasped it in his teeth. For the next four to five hours, JFK swam breaststroke across the open ocean towing McMahon behind him. When he finally crawled ashore Plum Pudding island, Kennedy became violently ill from all of the seawater he had swallowed and collapsed in exhaustion.
The next day, Kennedy convinced the now-starving men to try another island further off which might have edible coconuts. Again, he towed McMahon with his teeth as they made the three-hour swim to what would become known as Bird Island. It earned its name from the copious amounts of bird poop covering the leafy bushes. Unfortunately, the men only noticed the droppings the morning after attempting to drink fresh water from the leaves in the dark. At least there were some coconuts on the ground from which to salvage water and meat.
That law is not yet passed and still has a (small) chance of being stopped.
The 2nd Amendment is the citizens’ last line of defense against tyranny, bipartisan or otherwise.
When it comes time to invoke said defense; it won’t matter whether those tyrants are Democrat or Republican.