The bad news is the propaganda from the global media and intelligence apparatus is astronomical surrounding the Ukraine narrative. The good news is that most Americans can sense the background manipulation, even if they cannot quite put a finger on it.
You can see the general sense of distrust across the broad spectrum of discussions online and in almost all social media platforms. The majority of people sense something just doesn’t add up. While the people who follow political events closely are the ones who can see the more specific details of the manipulation. Those who were paying closest attention, in the 2014 Ukraine story line, are the ones who see the same methods deployed.
To get a sense of where the close political following group are, I asked the question last night. The results are not surprising to the high-info crowd, but the responses have stunned the moderate observers:
The roughly 3:1 ratio is remaining consistent [updated results here]. What this shows us is the diminished power of the Mainstream Media, despite almost every outlet parroting the exact same talking points. The drumbeat of U.S. and global media propaganda is falling upon increasingly deaf ears.
Perhaps this outcome should not be surprising, given the nature of the institutional deployment of the same Ukranian propaganda playbook by western government and media, and yet it is. The psychological bombardment by every aligned public-private corporate, multinational and government entity, is extreme. Yet people can see through it. That says something very positive about the current outlook of people toward government.
Unfortunately, amid the echo chamber that is globalist government, and amid the detachment of national politicians to the perspectives of the citizens they claim to represent, the disconnect between the people and the ruling self-described ‘elites’ is a recipe for either massive change or a more overt totalitarian effort by government officials who will never concede to the will of the majority. That is our current status.
Our situation is rapidly building toward a zero-sum conflict.
As aligned governments and corporations become more oppressive, more controlling and more authoritarian in their approach, there are fewer and fewer opportunities for them to change direction. This creates a self-fulling prophecy of conflict between government and people. History is filled with these examples, and historically it does not end well for the governing minority.
♦ To understand our current position, we should reference the adverse vaccination impacts that are now surfacing as a result of inquiry, research and time.
As more and more independent investigative resources are used to dig deep into the vaccination outcomes, there is a very real possibility – now tending toward probability – that hundreds of thousands of people have been killed or forever harmed physically by the vaccination program.
Harm caused by a mandatory COVID vaccination program is not an issue the global governing authorities can ever admit. Even if vaccine harm evidence was irrefutable, there’s no way the global governing system – the alignment of pharmaceutical corporations and government – can ever admit they caused death or injury.
With the scale of coercion and forced mandates from the global government vaccination effort very much in the forefront of people’s minds, an admission of death, harm or serious injury would collapse their institutions almost immediately. At least that is the preeminent opinion within the institutions as evidenced by their vitriol toward anyone who would dare raise the question.
♦ If we take that government overlay and now apply it to the current Ukraine sentiment, we can get a sense for what their threat assessments must now consist of. The risk of the public discovering that everything about the Ukraine narrative is fraudulent is a risk that creates fear. The need for control is a reaction to fear.
We are seeing that extreme control effort again right now. We see it as the media and big tech systems inform the public that any information running counter to the official government position on Ukraine or Russia will be removed and banished from worldwide technology platforms like Google, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.
All content, including comments on platforms, that challenges the officially sanctioned NATO or global government position on Russia and Ukraine, is considered adverse to the interests of the western global governing authorities. It is not coincidental the same methods of information control were deployed identically in the previous COVID-19/vaccination narrative.
Yet, despite all of their effort, despite the sheer magnitude of all of it, the majority of people still know something isn’t right.
We are living in an era where the global system is trying desperately to get people to believe in something, and they are deploying every tool in their arsenal to convince and demand compliance. Yet, the innate nature of the majority knows something just doesn’t feel right about it.
We live in remarkable times.
Live your best life my friends.
Do not distress yourself with dark imaginings, yet do not doubt your ability to sense when things just are not right.
God gave us instincts. Tune them, do not suppress them…
I’m not pro Putin or pro Zelensky….
I’m pro solutions and peace agreement.
IMO, what the US and EU are engaged in is a currency war against the Ruble. The US wants to continue trade with the EU and not lose it to Russia. This may stabilize the dollar, but since Biden is putting crippling sanctions on the Russian people, other countries may shy away from the dollar from fear of displeasing the Washington elite.
This Russian/Ukraine conflict is a distraction just like the Weapons of mass destruction was a distraction in Iraq.
The currency that maintains reserve status is what the real conflict is about.
The dollar as a reserve currency is just about done. They did this when they made it political.
All Putin has to do is demand that his oil be paid for in gold. After all why would he accept Euros, yen, or dollars, or any other fiat currency. Which he can’t transact with after freezing out the Russian central bank.
If he wanted to speed up the collapse he could offer 1,000 barrels of oil for a ounce of gold. The arbitrage market would buy all the physical gold they could get their hands on. This would collapse COMEX and with it the dollar as well. Speeding up the adoption of a western digital currency.
They could then set up their own (east) digital currency. Or they could go back to a gold standard. Interesting times.
A lot of folks understand that the invasion wasn’t something Putin schemed up overnight,
but was a response to a recent history of events. The invasion is simply another chapter,
in a war that’s been going on since 2014.
It’s understandable we may not have perfect knowledge of those events. We are busy. However,
before going all in on “People are dying in the Ukraine who did nothing but not want to be part of Russia,”
you might at least take a look at what Ukrainians have been doing to each other in the last 8 years.
Swalwell stood up in Congress last week and advocated for throwing Russian students out of American college classrooms.
sounds like a Title IV violation.
I wish this was the case however I think your poll is tainted with “Sample Bias” because most people who follow you would be a Conservate. An intelligent, rational person in other words. Go over the Daily Mail and read the thousands of comments under each of their Propaganda Pieces on Ukraine and you will see nearly all Mr and Ms John Q. Public buying in to the narrative crook, biden and sinker.
I have had this feeling at least since Nov 4, 2020.
Russia is not cooperating with the “community organizers” of the world stage.
Didnt go for Obama Syria plan, fought with Iran to change years of Obama chaos in Syria. And remember Obama talked openly about a new Muslim territory? And how Obama treated Israel?
Russia was targeted falsely by Obama to influence our election and subsequently effect an America First Agenda of Trump.
Not sure how “community organizers” fair in a real fight/war. But watching how countries/corporations/banks have reacted so quickly with sanctions towards Russia, one assumes this has been being “organized” for some time.
The “organizers” are sending a message to the world with these sanctions.
If they are successful against Putin/Russia, they will have set a very scary precedent to those countries wishing to be independent.
No wonder the Clinton Global Initiative is back up & running. There is money to be made among clueless newer generations.
They’re promising nobody like Trump will be allowed again.
Putin is sick and tired of seeing so much money going into Hunter Biden’s pockets. And that is just the tip of the global iceberg.
Got and Magog, will somehow be involved at Armgeddon. And a two million man army that crosses the Euphrates from the east. Don’t know how, but look how fast things are changing.
I don’t think they will let the voters elect Trump again.
De Santis should set the example and stay as governor. He is acting right now as the most freedom loving one. Fedgov is dedicated o us.
Censors are always on the wrong side of history and WesternSocial Media now bans/censors any opposing views of
STATEPoliticalGovernment Science and Now they are censoring everything but the official narrative on world events. Blind Faith in Government? I do not have it.AGREED. But, it SHOULD BE PUTIN’S FACE, not Zelensky’s… Putin’s being put up in front of us as the “scary monster”, not Zelensky. Great article!
Just focus on Ukraine. Forget about –
Vaccine & mask mandates
Vaccine deaths & injuries
Skyrocketing gas prices
Food shortages
Rampant inflation
Open borders
BLM/Antifa street thuggery
Chinese threats and aggression
Revitalized N. Korean nuclear capability
Indoctrination of children
Trillions wasted by congress
A decimated military
Election Fraud
Censorship and persecution
The Durham investigation
The national embarrassment in the white house
You are correct. From ToreSays:
While you are all busy with UKRAINE and biolabs (which we all knew about – they deleted them to keep you busy)
They just passed a bill to take your guns
They are trying to pass bills across the US for infanticide
They are giving you food credits.
Implementing social credit score
Losing focus on taking over your local seats.
Losing focus on stolen 2020
Forgetting they committed crimes
They are now criminalizing speech.
and then some.
Bring your eyes back home.
Talk of Ukraine – Russia and Turkey is old news.
This “war” was well overdue.
OK…got it….lol..m
Gee, why did Russia invade Ukraine? Hhmmmm, could it be that since Biden is beholden to Ukraine financially his administration is more of a threat to establish a US military presence in Ukraine as opposed to simply providing an arsenal. It does seem to have backfired since we are sending Ukraine 14 Billion dollars, but nevertheless he did invade Ukraine now and not before so that question should be asked. Yammering on and on about NATO and Ukraine in the same sentence surely isn’t productive for de-escalation, now is it? Yet the train wreck says that “I say, what we all say,” so she’s saying it [equating the defense of Ukraine with the defense of NATO]. God help us. Since we are being prodded to destroy Russians simply because they are Russians no matter where they are in the world or how involved they are in this debacle, what say we when people around the world want to destroy us regardless of whether we support these evil bastards in charge of our government right now. These bastards are a threat to our very being.
So the preferred way to settle international disputes is to start a shooting war? Neither one of these countries are worth the powder to blow them to he!!. What justifies what Putin is doing? Think Putin is going to stop here? Look at what he has been up to for the last 10 years. The Ukraine is far from lily white and we are part and parcel one of the major reasons for a lot of the corruption there. That said, what actually military does it pose to Russia?
If Ukraine is armed to the teeth, including bioweaponry as we’ve just found out, and became a NATO member to boot, I’d say that’s a helluva threat. And given that the cabal is the mouthpiece for NATO currently, that threat is being issued directly by the former US.
There’s a lot more going on in the Ukraine than we know, and I think the biggest part is our government trying to cover their track on a lot of very bad things. The article is correct. Something is just not right. I’ve felt that way since day one.
Why is it taking so long for this formidable Russian army to take this country? I personally think the average Ukrainian is duped by the hoopla. I get it, the bombs are real etc. But the whole reaction to the events taking place by the west just doesn’t make any sense.
I choose Zelensky.
There is in fact a war going on in Ukraine and Putin did order the Russian forces to invade Ukraine, again.
What is it that Zelensky and the Ukrainian people did to deserve being invaded by Russia? What?
Not a huge fan of Russel Brand HOWEVER, he does offer some valuable insight into why this is not just a “Russia is bad, and Ukraine is good” oversimplification of what is happening, and remember, whatever the main stream media is bleating in a 24/7 news cycle is probably no where near the truth.
vx3tz3-wait-did-they-really-just-admit-this.html
You obviously have not been paying attention to anything.
Obviously, huh. Russia invaded Ukraine, again. What, in your mind, is the obvious justification?
Go ahead genius, enlighten me.
“nor have you read *anything* posted by Sundance”
You’re talking out of your ass. You don’t know me or what I’ve read. Just because I read something doesn’t mean that I agree with part or all of it.
Speller, can I ask you a few questions?
1)In your estimation, were the Ukrainians abiding by the Minsk agreement?
2)Do you think it’s completely crazy for Russia to not want a US satellite in its border?
3)Do you think Russia has no demographic and historical claim to Crimea? If not, how did you come to that conclusion?
4)The Russian claims on Donbass and Lugansk are somewhat shakier it’s true, but have you given them any consideration?
1) I don’t know and neither do you unless you are there and part of the Ukrainian government.
2) Define US satellite. Is that like Cuba being a Russian satellite? Should the U.S. invade Cuba?
3) Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine. Having given it to Ukraine, Russia no longer has a claim.
4) See #3. Alternatively Russia could give Ukraine it’s nuclear weapons back.
A lot of the pro Putin sentiment on this site is shocking to me. Speller, you seem one of the few here with reasonable arguments.
Another answer to #2: Maybe Poland does not want Russian troops on it’s border with Belarus? You think Ukraine should be neutral, than set the example in Belarus yourself, and get the hell your troops out of Belarus Russia! And while you’re at it, out of Ukraine too!
A reasonable argument requires logic.
Of course this conflict is a terrible tragedy, for everyone.
1) The Minsk agreement has not been fulfilled as the elections in the separatist provinces have not yet been held. It has been 8 years since holding elections in those provinces was agreed upon by all sides. Why not support democratic elections and let the people decide their associations for themselves?
2) Agreed that invasion against the will of the people living there is not a good solution.
I also think it would be naive to think that if Russia set up a military base in Ensenada, the US government would shrug and say, “oh well, we don’t like it but so it goes.” That doesn’t mean an invasion is a good choice; it is simply an observation of hypocrisy. The US military has been used to interfere with violence in other nations all over the world.
Politicians chose not to de-escalate the situation by promoting Ukrainian neutrality and facilitating the promised elections to consider a resolution of secession for each of the provinces in dispute. Instead Kamala Harris made a speech telling the political leaders of Ukraine they “should join NATO.” These politicians have behaved as if they want to provoke conflict, not diffuse it.
3) This idea of governments – any government – having irrevocable “claim” on any area and the people living there needs to be rejected. The people who live there should decide whether they want to be part of Ukraine, part of Russia, or their own independent entity. If half a province wants to be independent or become part of Russia and half a province wants to be part of Ukraine, they should split.
Grievances need to be heard on all sides to come to a peaceful and lasting resolution. Trying to ostracize the Russian people economically and socially is immensely damaging to everyone, and not at all effective for resolving conflict. If no one is willing to enable a graceful exit from this conflict for all parties, this situation will continue to escalate.
-“Trying to ostracize the Russian people economically and socially is immensely damaging to everyone, and not at all effective for resolving conflict.”-
Not as damaging as a coalition of nations making war on Russia.
There has to be some sort of price to be paid for the sort of a military aggression that Russia under Putin has been projecting since Putin has been made Dictator in 1998 or do you propose that no price for this pattern of aggression be paid?
What would the deterrent be, in your opinion?
Do you think that there should be no deterrent, no punishment, to this pattern of behaviour?
-“The people who live there should decide whether they want to be part of Ukraine, part of Russia, or their own independent entity.”-
I agree. As a matter of history, observers from a number of nations were going to be present during the Ukrainian election in 2014, but as you know Russia invaded Crimea.
Those observers were there because the Ukrainian President that had been ousted was widely accused of being a Russian puppet installed by election fraud.
Given the fact of election fraud’s existence, even in the USA, how can it be assured that people really did vote for what they get and exactly how small do enclaves of like-minded people within currently existing nation states get to be including subdividing cities and provinces?
Or do you think the whole world should be balkanized if enclaves feel like it and to what effect on the general stability and security of societies of the first ones to do so with aggressors like Russia around with zero deterrent for invading and gobbling up smaller cultural entities?
They are in bed w/Soros and almost every corrupt politician in the U.S. Zelenskyy is a puppet and the globalists are his masters. Same w/Biden. Putin in a nationalist and hates globalists and he can see they are attempting to destroy and control every country in the world. I hate to say it but they defeat Putin, that is very bad news for the rest of us.
And that, in your mind, justifies war and the invasion of a sovereign country? WOW!
I think the only axiom that can be gleaned out of this war between Russia and Ukraine is that neither of these nations are worth the involvement of the USA. I wonder why JoeBama thought it was a great idea to choose either side? They must think they can rig the 2022 mid-term elections because choosing sides is a political blunder beyond belief. Everyone knows when the usual buttons are being pushed by the Globalist Totalitarian Cabal because it has happened time after time by now.
Ukraine is not a country; it’s a territory. Sheesh.
Sez you and Vlad Putin. I disagree.
Soros and Clinton’s are on Ukraines side. Read between the lines!
So what if they are?
I breath air and drink water every day. Should I stop because Soros and Clinton does too?
Russia is the aggressor and has invaded Ukraine, which is defending itself. That’s a fact.
There is a justification for invading a sovereign country if it poses a threat to you. If I threaten to punch you, you are entitled to respond in a pre-emptive manner. This is basic 101 school ground stuff. The democratically elected government of Ukraine was overthrown in a coup d’etat organised by the CIA and your State Department. This is a well known and irrefutable fact. The mafia that they installed has systematically failed to abide by the Minsk agreements. It has sent Ukrainian forces , composed of neo-nazi groups like the Azov battalion, to the Donbas where it has killed at least 16,000 Russian civilians. Ukraine has a complicated history but Сrimea has always been historically Russian. Currently 65 percent of the population are Russian compared to 15 percent Ukrainian minority. The people of Crimea voted to join Russia in an open referendum.
Donetsk and Lugansk are clearly more culturally aligned with Russia as they have voted for independence and the region is populated predominantly by Russians who have been there for over a thousand years.
Putin’s incursion is not a full scale invasion. It is a pre-emptive strike to prevent the western mafia from pushing further East and de-stabilising his own country. He has 3 clearly stated aims.
Demilitarise Ukraine
De-nazify Ukraine
Set up an internationally recognised Government that will not join NATO and remain neutral.
I am not a statist by any means, but given the Mafia running the country I can understand his actions. I would also point out there are many Ukrainians who would also gladly see the back of the corrupt Zelensky puppet regime.
killing ethnic russians in E. Ukraine.
Says you and Vladimir Putin.
Hitler used the exact same argument for his invasions of Czechoslovakia and Poland.
Putin had his KGB/FSB bomb Russian apartment buildings as a casus beli to start the 2nd Chechen war.
Same with the Moscow theatre and Beslan school attacks.
The exact same ginned up justification occurred with the Russo-Georgia war in 2008.
To this day Russia gobbles up at least 2km of Georgia every single year along the entire length of the frontier between Russia and Georgia.
The UN has via their constant monitoring of the Donbas and the shelling which takes place on a daily base to be between 15000 and 18000.
but I assume you will find a reason dismiss it because it seems to me your mind is setup and what doesn‘t fit the narrative will be ignored.
I think everything about the UN is a setup.
Global warming is/was a setup. Covid is/was a setup.
Do you have the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect or are you just a gull?
If the UN told me that the sky was blue, I’d have to go outside and look for myself such is the confidence that I have about anything relating to the UN.
IMHO, it is not what THEY did. It is what the US has done to them.
So I guess you’re on the side of Soros and his NGO’s. WAKE UP and stop living in the matrix! You and others that still don’t see the same narrative has been used for decades, and the sheeple blindly following, will be their downfall. Notice I said ‘their’ downfall. Those of us awake are prepared and ready for what is to come.
FYI…the Ukranian people are innocent but their leaders are evil. The KM nazis are running the show. Haven’t we seen this before? Putin is doing the world a favor. Stop believing what the fake news media is telling you to believe.
You guess wrong, winnamins. I’m on my side.
“but their leaders are evil”
Whose leaders aren’t evil?(rhetorical question)
Putin is evil, Zelensky the Jew is a nazi, this is my shocked face.(points at deadpan mug)
A good history lesson:
Ukraine On Fire
https://rumble.com/vwxqgw-oliver-stone-ukraine-on-fire.html
Hello Speller. What did Iraq and their people do to be invaded by USA in early 2000s and send back over 4000 US soldiers in bodybags? I’m still wondering the answer to that one.
There is more to the Russia/Ukraine story than we now know/are being told. If the right people die and right places are destroyed we may never know.
I can’t answer about Iraq. I’m not an American or a citizen of a nation involved in that by the way.
The western leaders and the Davos crowd are looking a large losses from “loosing” Ukraine. Loss of the graft and corruption skim, loss of bio labs, loss of world financial control, and loss of the unipolar world we have had since 1991. Also, Hunter Biden has to accept the loss of several of his crack pipes he has hidden in the Burisma corporate offices.
Keep polling!
BidenObama hasn’t even made a compelling case why we are STILL in Syria, let alone involved in Ukraine.
Often when given ‘the choice between the lesser of evils’ the correct response is “none of the above”.
The governments of Russia, Ukraine, China, Iran, USA, and Globalists are evil in their abuse of authoritarian power over the people of those nations and the world. Their are many good people in these nations and around the world that need support and encouragement to throw off their current governmental regimes.
Despite the evil of their governments it is nationalistic tendencies of Russia, China, Iran, etc that stand in the way of the Globalists being led by the WEF. These narcissistic psychopaths that believe they are destined to lead the world and all of mankind into a ‘glorious’ new world believe that they have already contained the USA when they removed PDJT from office.
Hopefully the will and determination of the vast majority of Americans has once again been greatly under estimated by those seeking to bring the USA under the mantle and control of the Global Utopian Communist State. The Globalists in ‘both parties’ may or may not have managed to take one pro-American messenger off the stage but it seems they have done very little to subdue the message. Unfortunately psychopaths are nonredeemable and will not admit defeat and give up voluntarily. They must be totally removed from society by whatever means necessary.
I just watched the documentary “Ukraine On Fire”, available on Rumble. It really opened my eyes to the history of Ukraine and what is going on now is about.
Great article Sundance. Pretty much at this point, I feel CT is the only place we can go that is reporting the TRUTH and not state sponsored propaganda. Thank you for being the voice of reason in a world full of laughing hyenas.
I listened to this now deleted you tube video. is a great video but he still believes ventilators and the jabs are a good thing.
https://newtube.app/TonyHeller/D3giltw
Even somebody still in high school should apply the last three years of media lying about covid to Ukraine and not assume that they’re all of a sudden telling you the truth.
grandparents and great grandparents of these kids should be able to look back and realize they’ve been lied to by the media about nearly every major event for their entire life and apply that to what they’re hearing about Ukraine.
You torment the friendliest dog long enough eventually he’s going to turn on you out of self-preservation and then you tell everybody all you did was walk next to him and he bit you…
yeah … right
I agree charles. My opinion? After many years now of the “Russia Russia Russia barrage we’ve been given and especially the Russian Hoax on our greatest President Trump. It now is obvious that the covid 19 debacle was initiated to overturn an election to a fraudulent man being inserted they now have to ramp up hysteria on this Ukraine thing. Ukraine was actively involved with the democrats in opposing Trump. Victoria Nuland stating the fact of bio labs in Ukraine was astonishing. But, she tried in my mind in vain by trying to clean it up by saying they were research centers. 30 of them in Ukraine? And I’ve read we have over 300 of them world wide. They are in damage control now. The truth will prevail we just have to be vigilant and wait it out. Someone or many many someones will have a price to pay! And people wonder why they keep trying to take away the 2cd A.
Putin will be the one imhp to blow the lid off of this! Do I think he’s still a bad actor? Yes I do. But I also believe he’s sick of getting blamed for everything. How do we know he’s actually the one bombing hospitals and the other places. We don’t. I wouldn’t put it past our own government doing it to blame him to push their narrative. Especially with the crew in their now running the show. Anyone who can rig an election in the greatest country on Earth and so far get away with it? Don’t put anything past them.
Ukraine has been a cess pool of corruption for decades. Biden, Pelosi, Romney, Kerry (and probably more) all have children who’ve made enormous amounts in Ukraine through corrupt connections & fake jobs. We don’t really know what actually goes on in Ukraine except that it’s very profitable for our ruling class. Putin invaded Ukraine to avoid having a NATO nation, probably with weapons, right on his border. This after the shelling in East Ukraine of Russian ethnics for many years, thousands dead & no one did anything. And now we find out about the many BIO WARFARE LABS the US set up in Ukraine. After Wuhan, why should we be suspicious. Ukraine is a set up and we ain’t buying it. The smell is over whelming and they’ve sold it too hard.
I wonder if a part of this is to cover up past corruption in the Ukraine by American politicians as well as other leaders ?
I’m not a huge Oliver Stone fan but this documentary is a great history lesson showing early beginnings of Russian and Ukrainian conflicts up through around 2016. It’s clear what is really going on today.
Ukraine On Fire
https://rumble.com/vwxqgw-oliver-stone-ukraine-on-fire.html
wow. ~75% not believing the MSM on a TWITTER poll!
Many conservatives, myself included, refuse to use twitter.
Maybe there is hope for the masses to wake up from this nightmare.
If there weren’t people dying in Ukraine, it would be kind of funny that the far left in the USA are supporting actual Nazis in Ukraine. I wonder how many of them realize this.