Macgregor Makes Sense!
My spidey senses tell me that Col Douglas Macgregor will not be welcomed back on Fox News after he gave a rather different take on what is happening amid the Russia-Ukraine conflict that does not toe the common media line. [SEGMENT HERE] Jennifer Griffin was furious.
The first presentation was during a segment with Fox Host Dan Bongino (below). The second presentation of essentially the same analysis was with Trey Gowdy [SEGMENT HERE]. In both discussions Macgregor’s perspective reconciles the disparity between what the U.S. government, State Dept, and corporate media are saying -vs- what is visible.
Essentially, Macgregor is saying that Russia does not want to engage a civilian population and is making every effort to avoid civilian conflict in those population centers. In part this is because Putin knows the Western approach is a propaganda war that would be fueled by what it would look like if population carnage took place. However, if Ukraine President Zelenskyy does not acquiesce to terms, Putin could easily crush those centers with artillery and rockets. WATCH:
What Macgregor outlines would explain why these skirmishes always seem ‘off in the distance’.
The western government and media perspective is to make it seem like Volodymyr Zelenskyy and the rebellious civilian misfits are beating the Russian army because that frames a better story. However, what Macgregor outlines is Putin not wanting to fuel the United Nations, NATO and State Dept narrative engineering, thus the absence of visible fighting.
The second segment with Trey Gowdy is HERE… and below:
Fox News Pentagon war seller Jennifer Griffin, aka the female version of Mark Milley, was having fits.
wow — Jennifer Griffin continues her live fact-check of Fox colleagues and guests:
“I feel like I need to correct some of the things that Col. Douglas MacGregor said, and I’m not sure that 10 minutes is enough time to do so, because there were so many distortions." pic.twitter.com/nsdvoGwwXi
— j.d. durkin (@jd_durkin) February 28, 2022
Thanks again, Sundance. You are one of the few voices of sanity in the news world. Tucker has been very good on this so far; Colonel MacGregor is a regular on TCT. I wonder if he can continue to hold up.
MacGregor’s assessment of Putin’s rules of engagement is consistent with the reporting from other real news sources, few though they are. Putin is handling the Ukro-Nazis with kid gloves, to avoid collateral damage.
I sent letters to my dimwitted Congresscritters explaining that Americans do not “stand with Ukraine” and that they needed to understand the history of the conflict better before claiming that doing so was in anybody’s interest.
Wade Hampton, excellent comment and I completely agree with your assessment. Interestingly, GP has a piece that expounds on Putin’s strategy in this conflict and how it is working very well. Thank God for Sundance and the CTH for proving real analysis and not spewing deep state/State Department propaganda.
So 500,000 or 1,000,000 Ukrainians get killed, so what, as long as Putin gets what he wants – that will teach those Ukro-Nazis. Sorry I actually thought there were some real Christians left on this blog. You’ll forgive me if I can’t get excited at how great the Russians are when Stalin killed 5 million Ukrainians with his collectivist agricultural policies and, being of Polish decent, who could ever forget the Katyn massacre. Sick of the Putin apologists – hating Globalists is no excuse to jump into Putin’s arms
Anyone familiar with the methods Russians used to liberate 1200 cities during WWII knows what this guy is saying. As if he is some genius or something. He is not.
It’s nothing new.
And, I’ll say this. I’m old enough to remember that the US had a hissy fit when the Russians moved nuclear missiles to a place 90 miles south of Key West. Anyone remember that?
The solution was for the US to remove nuclear capable missiles from Turkey. Gee, sorta similar with the shoe on the other foot, eh?
Biden directly caused this when he said that joining NATO was “Ze’s” decision. That meant that “Ze” would have nuclear capability in what the Russians want as a buffer zone around their border. This could be ended by simply recognizing that and backing off NATO EXPLICITLY.
And, let’s just see what will happen there. That propaganda and false flags are being promoted by “Ze”. What do you think would happen if thousands of AR15s would be handed out to the unwashed masses in US cities. Yep, by golly, the wrong people are going to be killed.
Griffin throws blue meat to her sycophants when she says it’s President Trump’s fault for “showing weakness” when he proposed to pull US troops out of Germany. That “weakness” emboldened Pootie Poot.
Has anyone ever seen Marie Harf and Jennifer Griffin in the same room together?
I have never liked the spin coming from Griffin. Whenever I have heard her before she seemed partisan to the Left. She is not a reliable source of unbiased information!! Don’t believe her. She is tainted. I think MacGregor knows what he’s talking about. The Biden/State Dept./CIA cabal doesn’t like it when a differing opinion of an army specialist like MacGregor rains on their parade. Can’t have that!!! Must have WAR!
Haven’t trusted Griffin since she showed her true bais on Air Force One with Obama. Just a big sychophantic goofy-ass grin on her face when Zero walked out to the press pool with an indiscreet pants incident. (Excuse me ladies, but that was reported in several news rags.)
Griffin is quite blatantly obvious a tool of the Deep State Pentagon. Yet another narrative engineer we don’t need.
Her smartazz assessment of Putins psychological condition is so screamingly familiar….
ANYONE the Deep State cannot logically oppose without revealing their own perfidy, they almost ALWAYS resort to questioning that persons mental health. It’s so trite and overused.
They need new narrative engineers. How about honest ones for a real change?
And Fox? Bongino once was refreshingly honest in his reporting. Now it’s obvious he’s been Foxified. Sad.
Totally agree, one slight dissent (slight!). Their “mental instability” diagnoses still has some traction. Not with us, but many will grab onto it.
Like anyone take the Good they offer – bongino was brave enough to bring in an alternative view – not brave enough to SPEAK FREELY on Fox
Makes one wonder about the motive in bringing Macgregor on the show….
Nahhh. We know exactly why he was brought on: so that the rest of the globalist corporate shills on Fox can artfully (and so obviously) pretend to be shocked and stunned by his observations. I’m actually surprised Griffin, in between all of her hissing and spitting, didn’t suggest that besides Putin, Col. Macgregor also needed a psychological exam…. 🤣
She was so over the top on Kilmeads weekend show – she’s more than a willing tool – she’s a down right cheerleader, drenched in the koolaid, to be sure her next gig is 6 figures as the head of Raytheon PR.
For being such an expert, world-wise reporter, Jennifer Griffin appears to be showing signs of short term memory loss. Specifically, she is blaming President Trump for his “so-called weakness” in pulling US troops out of Germany as for the reason contributing to Putin’s boldness, but somehow fails to remember Biden’s more recent horrific, disastrous pullout from Afghanistan….
Jennifer, Jennifer, Jennifer– shame on you!
She’s not ashamed. She is doing precisely the job she is being paid to do.
(PS: that does not entail objective news reporting)
On its face, even with no brain power assigned, a child could understand shifting forces to a friendly, tough Allie on the border with Russia is far better than having them in globalist Nazi, terrorist Muslim loving shizhole pretend Allie who signed energy dependent contracts with Russia. But we all know Fox is controlled opposition and she is playing her part.
It’s all part of the same game the deep state has been playing since the 90s.
It’s called access!
If you don’t spew the deep state spin, they won’t take your calls or feed you anymore false information.
Having access gives you gravitas.
They all eventually show their Stripes
Jibes with what The Saker is saying.
https://thesaker.is/
Putin is playing the information war better than the globalists. He and Xi know our common enemy better than the conquered, subverted and demoralized “elite” of the West.
Our “elite” are worse than useless here. This war is a bottom up affair of Christendom vs the fallen institutions worldwide.
This has happened before in the History of Christendom and we know the way forward. God is sifting the wheat and the tares.
I count Putin among the wheat. I count the u.s. feds as among the tares.
The common enemy includes the elitists of the west.
All we are hearing are assessments and Col. MacGregor’s is as valid as Jennifer Griffin’s. Difference is Jennifer has a sluice open to one source and MacGregor seems to be taking info from many areas.
Fact: over the weekend I never hears of any breathless death counts other than repeating the 198 killed in an Apartment tower and 400 Russian troops taken out. Where’s the carnage on the streets?
Exactly
The carnage on the street is in Donbass where they have been shelled for 8 years by Ukraine.
MacGregor is on the RT payroll and an apologist for Putin and his narrative. Is not Ukraine a sovereign nation? What right does Russia have to dictate whether Ukraine joins a defensive alliance which Putin’s actions prove are necessary for any of its neighbors. Don’t let your justifiable disdain for the corrupt and evil Davos crowd, blind you to the fact of Putin’s evil. There are bad actors all around but the people of Ukraine are entitled to freedom and to live in peace as much as we are.
Quite a bit.
First look at the linguistic map if the Ukraine.
I count 11 separate Nations inside that territory. Two of them Russian. And if you take laurence tribe’s bleatings and threats seriously, as I do, 12.
Putin is defending Russians from the goddamned globalists in control of Ukraine in a way similar to Trump defending American’s from the same globohomo construct in the CONUS.
By acepting the enemy’s definitions, you join it in the fight against your own people.
That is to assume that you dissaprove of the destruction of the various Nations if Christendom.
Follow the money.
I’m going to keep putting this up hoping as many people as possible see it.
Please read this and see if it doesn’t answer a LOT of questions!
“Why Does Ukraine Matter?”
https://spookdblog.blogspot.com/2022/02/why-does-ukraine-matter.html
That is an excellent article, Mycroft!
Someone needs to “connect the dots”, so to speak, with Burisma, Hunter, Paul Pelosi Jr. (Viscoil, NRGLab)) Tagg Romney, Paul Ryan, the big guy (and his 10%), Miss Lindsay, Mittens, Nuland, the Clinton Foundation, John McCain, John Kerry’s son by marriage to T Heinz, etc ALL tied to energy companies in the Ukraine. Would make for a very interesting story. Might be some much-needed sunlight!
Indeed Yes – And again Yes. Keep posting this, as it is essential data. First time I have seen it. Try as one might, cannot follow it all, read all the threads – as life has its own requirements.
Give as many as possible the chance to see this and read it.
It’s always been about oil, hasn’t it? No wonder Sleepy cut off our own production, the jackass! These over-educated, sub-intelligent “advisor/handlers” of his from inside the Trojan horse are really evil.
Thank you.
Follow the money:
Kickbacks to Biden, Pelosi, Romney & Kerry sons.
With the abundance of natural resources that Ukraine possesses one would think it would be one of the richest countries on the planet. But in fact it is one of the poorest. Which tells me Ukraine is the plundering and looting playground for the elites. The political ruling class doesn’t even have to pay its loans apparently. The banks’ primary problem is that their biggest clients do not pay. In total, non-performing loans in the Ukrainian banking system are more than 50 percent. The reason is that Ukraine has a few hundred people who consider themselves too superior to pay, and unfortunately the Ukrainian judiciary agrees. In particular, 427 members of parliament enjoy legal immunity and probably two-thirds of them are businessmen. Others have simply very good relations with the relevant parts of the law enforcement apparatus. European elites behaved like that in the 18thcentury. It was only in the 19th century when the playing field was leveled that Europe started growing.–From Atlanticcouncil.org
Maybe this is why there aren’t as many Ukranian speakers left https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/02/the_new_york_emtimesem_hasnt_always_cared_about_ukrainians.html
Hatred of the left is no reason to forget history. Putin is a thug pure and simple. People who claim to be Christians should not be glorifying him. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/ukrainian-contexts.php
How many Christians did Putin slaughter? Oh wait, Russia is a Christian strong hold. In the US Christian’s are mocked and marginalized. Lots of idiots love to hate someone cuz tv said so. Remind you of anybody?
Putin is a thug pure and simple.
Unlike Nancy Pelosi, Biden, obama, cuomo, fauci, 7th floor FIB, oops I’m out of digital ink….
I believe you are correct that Putin is a thug, but so is Zelensky…..Z may be worse. So riddle me this….why are we getting involved when two thugs are fighting? Let Putin have the Russian parts. Ukraine have the Ukraine parts. We stay the F out of it……for once.
Hear, Hear
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Totally agree. The EU is nothing but a bunch of Totalitarian globalist dictators temporarily operating in governments that pretend to be democratic in one form or another. They all stomped on their citizens using COVID as the excuse.
The New Nazis. Putin wants no part of that.
The people of Ukraine are not free.
Unlike Americans and Canadians.
/s
Then Zelensky should have honored the terms of the Minsk Agreement.
Yep. Thus far, there are no good guys. And there won’t be any. I’m not sure about the “freedom and peaceful living” in Ukraine, though. Extreme corruption there, just as we and other countries enjoy.
Is Russia entitled to have the same peace of mind that Ukraine is entitled to?
What right did we have to dictate to Cuba? How would things be now if we had remained passive?
Home run!
I would say Russia has the same right as the U.S. when we claim to be going into Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, or any other middle east nation for peacekeeping and democracy making.
No different but for some reason the people in the west who have no issues going into desert countries to destroy people have a problem when Russia does it.
Not saying Putin went about things correctly rather I just find the hypocrisy amusing. Well, the hypocrisy combined with everyone all of a sudden becoming experts on Ukraine, Russia, and all of the issues. Now, granted, these same people only want to go back no more than two weeks to draw their point of reference. They don’t want to go back 10-12 years and follow that timeline.
Unfair. Unbalanced. Afraid.
Fox reported and I decided. FNC is the McCain wing of the corporate media. Going along to get along so Joy Reid, Morning Joe or The View hags will stop hurting their feelings.
It was simply disgusting to watch Fox censor (“gotta go now Colonel” – Bongino, reacting to screaming voice in his ear) and diminish (“ten minutes isn’t enough to clear up the Putin apologist’s lies” – Griffin, overrated Pentagon whore) someone with a different viewpoint.
Only the US can have a Monroe Doctrine.
/s
Did you know that the Ukrainian governemnt is terrorizing the Russian’s of the Donbass and other regions?
That the Russian lanugauge is forbidden there?
That they shell them mercilessly?
Let me help you out here.
The same globalist crowd doing that there, will do it here.
They will ban English.
They will terrorize Whites.
They will “Build a domestic army just as large and just as well funded ” as the current military.
That military will be leveled at you and me.
By your “logic” because it is the USA! USA! USA! doing the terrorizing, it must be right.
Timothy, I don’t know this particular history but I believe you and it does not surprise me. Europe has a long history of ethnic war over territory and long memories. We have had two World Wars that started in Europe and hopefully we can avoid the next one.
Ukraine is a corrupt and badly divided country, as Timothy Murray’s map shows below.
This conflict is part civil war, part NATO/West provocation, part Russia minding its backyard (think “The Monroe Doctrine”). Read Lee Smith. Listen to John Mearsheimer’s speeches.
Is not Ukraine a sovereign nation?
Ukraine is more a vassel state of the US, hence Biden telling Zelintsky that only the US is allowed to negotiate with Russia
What vital national security imperative does messing around in Ukraine bring us? It’s not a NATO nation. We have a rising China in the East that we can’t keep pace with defense wise because we have gotten ourselves into so much debt, and yet the fools in Washington DC want us fighting a two front conflict with Russia and China. It will bankrupt us.
What right do we have interfering in a border invasion halfway across the world when we don’t protect our own?
That is hopelessly naive. Would you be OK with the sovereign nations of central America or the Caribbean hosting Chinese nuclear weapons or troops? Are you saying the Monroe doctrine is illegitimate?
The globalists staged a color revolution in Ukraine and overthrew it’s government and installed a puppet to facilitate their money laundering. In just the last year they tried to pull off color revolutions in Belarus and Kazakstan that were defeated. Russia knows their survival is at stake.
If you want to keep supporting Soros and his ilk in these provocations it is going to end up in nuclear war.
Point in fact the Caribbean and Latin America is being overrun by the Chinese
Was in Mexico 20 years ago. There were Chinese stores all over the place selling Mexican pottery made in China. The store clerks were also Chinese and able to speak English and Spanish. Same thing here in S. Dak. Chinese restaurants all over the place in any town with stop lights.
I vividly remember being on the island of Dominica on Christmas day in I believe 2018. Our tour guide pointed out Windsor Park stadium was built as a “gift” to Dominica from the Chinese.
What right did the USA have to dictate to Cuba re Russian missiles? For that matter, how would the State Dept react today if Mexico invited the PLA to set up a base in Mexico? Monroe doctrine?
The same right the US assumed for itself when the USSR (Nikita Khrushchev) put missiles in Cuba.
We all felt very righteous about it at the time. It was the right action to take.
Now the shoe is on the other foot. Putin has a strong argument whether or not you like his tactics. He’s already tried the diplomatic route and was given the double barrel middle fingers.
Exactly GB. I just made that comparison to my teenage grandson who is caught up in fear right now.
You obviously have no idea who’s in charge in the Ukraine right now. What do Pelosi, Kerry, Romney and Biden all have in common? Wake up!
MacGregor is on the RT payroll and an apologist for Putin and his narrative
So you have access to his financial records? What information do you have to back these allegations?
What right does Russia have to dictate whether Ukraine joins a defensive alliance which Putin’s actions prove are necessary for any of its neighbors?
Have you ever heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis? History is littered with countries taking preemptive actions to increase their security, or protecting people of the same ethnicity who happen to live, due to flawed borders, in adjoining countries. You may not like it, but it’s just the way it is. Everyone opposing Putin understood this and yet ignored it.
Don’t let your justifiable disdain for the corrupt and evil Davos crowd, blind you to the fact of Putin’s evil.
What kind of statement is this? I don’t find one has to do with the other when it comes to my opinion of each. I despise the WEF because I have taken the time to research the organization and watch their evil agenda being implemented globally by groomed apparatchiks they have placed in power in various governments, finance, industry, and NGOs. The WEF has no effect on my views of Putin.
Is Putin evil? Putin is a nationalist and he will always defend the interests of Russia. Being a nationalist is evil only in the eyes of the far Left and globalists because it’s anathema to their agenda.
I don’t know what is in his heart, but I do know he defends his country’s interests, culture, and the Orthodox church, which is a lot more than the illegitimate regime that was installed in the USA will do for us. Russian history is one of corrupt, despotic, and often murderous regimes. Sadly, with the exception of a few months in 1917, the governments of the last thirty years seem to be better than anything they have has in the past. Republicanism doesn’t run deep in the culture.
There are bad actors all around but the people of Ukraine are entitled to freedom and to live in peace as much as we are.
Does that include the Russians who live in Dombas? Do they not have the right to self-determination that President Wilson insisted upon in WWI and which created numerous countries after WWI from defeated empires based on culture and national identity? The people in the break away republics are Russian, and want to be part of Russia. The fact that they are currently within the borders of Ukraine is due to arcane borders drawn of the former Soviet Republics where national identity wasn’t a concern.
Funny about the timing.
Trudeau began acting like some Communist dictator (like Castro, for instance), and his atrocities were turning public opinion against him.
Suddenly, a distant regional conflict pops up to wag the dog and push all Canadian coverage from daily news. But Trudeau is still there and the vital American interest in not having a dictatorship on our border has been silenced.
Meanwhile, Biden’s handlers are blaming Putin for the economic disaster wrought by their own mismanagement (nay… intentional sabotage) of the economy.
I feel bad for the Ukrainians, I really do, but Ukraine has long been in the Russian sphere of influence. We should use real economic sanctions, support with military supplies (perhaps) Ukraine itself, and pursue energy independence.
But we should NOT risk global thermonuclear warfare with a rival we spent since 1945 avoiding direct conflict with.
We should NOT be distracted from the growing tyranny to our North, and we should NOT get embroiled in a distant and arguably not-our-fight conflict in Europe when China may well use all the foregoing to attack Taiwan— which we do have an obligation to defend.
From what I have read about computer chips China takes Taiwan and the US collapses!
Now I’m not suggesting war with China but follow VSGDJT and rebuild out own industrial base.
Biden helped engineer the Ukraine crisis. It has successfully deflected most news coverage away from his unscientific Covid policies and his destructive economic policies.
Col Douglas Macgregor may be correct, but what they are doing is not. I can’t stomach the idea that anyone should be rolled over by force and just take it.
I do agree it’s not our war .. the EU and NATO need to deal with it.
We’re part of NATO (some might say, we ARE NATO). if NATO deals with it, it becomes our war. I agree with you, but think EU should deal with it. it’s a European problem. They just want NATO/the U.S. to deal with it for them.
When Karens Karen.
Putin did not move into Ukraine because of Trump.
He didn’t go into Ukraine because of Trump. (Did with Obama and now Biden)
Putin went into Ukraine because he has blackmailed Biden and saw Biden’s weakness in Afghanistan.
Biden also greenlighted Russia invasion by saying a partial incursion was ok.
I am a curious onlooker with full time job outside of journalism and intelligence and defense and yet align clear facts better than a defense/Intel journalist?
Biden also greenlighted Russia invasion by saying a partial incursion was ok.
Thank you for the reminder. That little gem seems to have been forgotten by everyone, and especially the installed regime in the WH. The minor excursion meant dealing with the eastern Ukraine.
There will not be a peep about FJB’s comments in the SOTU rebuttal by the Republicans. It’s been jammed down the memory hole by the Ruling Class. Most of the Country Class will never know it existed.
I believe Putins objective in Ukraine is as he has communicated.
Overturn government and minimize civilian losses.
He wants a buffer from NATO.
Like many leaders in our own government, it appears Putin underestimated the people of Ukraine and their desire for freedom.
Putin desires USSR like country while those who have been free for 30 years do not.
Putin knows communism doesn’t work. He is not an admirer of Lenin or Stalin. Read his speech from last week. He is only focused on Russia – trying to restore its economy while fighting off the Nazi globalists who infest Ukraine and most of NATO / EU. Not to mention the Khazarian mafia who’ve been causing problems in Ukraine since long before the 20th century.
Russia has a long history with the George Soros crowd. Putin knows what they are about and doesn’t want them anywhere near Russia. Soros and His CIA Friends Targeted USSR/Russia in 1987 — Strategic Culture (strategic-culture.org)
What war did you fight in, lady?
Jennifer Griffin only cavorted around on Hillary Clinton’s campaign plane.
He is far too rational and logical for MSM talking heads to wrap their simple minds around. Honestly, if there are people out there thinking that Zelenski is leading a force of Ukrainian fighters inside the city who are holding off Russian armor, artillery, air and ground forces, they are probably wearing 2, maybe 3 masks at this very moment.
Putin deserves a great deal of credit to this point for his restraint.
The regime here and across NATO? Typical. Throw more fuel on the fire in the hope mass civilian casualties result in order to win the propaganda battle. Making the governments of the West the far sicker evil in this East vs West battle. If you don’t see that, strap on another mask.
So is he (Putin) or isn’t he threatening the West with nukes?
Lots of pay-ops going on – everywhere.
Anything coming from the corporate media–including Fox–must be considered propaganda.
And, if a guest or analyst’s opinion or viewpoint agitates or angers a media propagandist, then its very likely because that opinion or viewpoint is much closer to the truth or reality.
In the next segment, she “fact checked” General Bolduc. He had a more intervention response. She stated he wasn’t really a general, but candidate for US senate in New Hampshire. He has won numerous purple hearts
During the election year, I listened to Bongino religiously as he had some great insights to what was going on. However, at some point it dawned on me that listening to him was like listening to Fox News (controlled opposition). What finally turned me off was the constant “FBI is good. The rank and file folks are real patriots it is only people on the top who are bad apples.” I had enough at that point. The reality did not lined up with what he was saying and today we can all see it, I hope.
Coming back to this interview, I find it fascinating how they all root for Ukrainians to prevail even though Neo Nazis run rampant over there. Aren’t all those virtue signaling SOBs be “anti fascist”? Another point, it appears that those who have the most to lose in Ukraine are the loudest.
I am no friend of Putin (I grew up under Soviet yoke in Poland). However, this is his war to lose. I hope he cleans it up quickly and this “war” over Ukraine will be a beginning of the fall of the globalist cabal.
That is officially the most Fox News that I’ve watched since the election steal on 11/3/20 and I feel dirty. Trey Gowdy is as useless as he was as congressman, when he chaired the committee looking into swamp abuses against American citizens during the Tea Party thumping of 2010. As we know it was Barry’s second year and in reality he also was as popular as a fart in a spacesuit. But I digress.
The Col. is right on. After the fall of the wall and the Soviet Union, NATO and the West made agreements (Minsk) with the USSR to which the West has been welshing on continuously since the ink dried. Then you throw the criminality of Ukraine along with our uniparty swamp criminals (Biden’s, Romney’s. Kerry’s et al) and their need to launder money and you have a match made in hell.
PS: Sundance I broke my rule of zero MSM at your recommendation, they are still selling swamp narratives and the good Col. broke the cardinal rule and told the truth. Now I’m back on news blackout and the happier for it.
Similar to when Newt was on Harris Faulkner’s show and pointing out how Soros controls the media and so much else and Faulkner told Newt that “we cannot talk about that”.
Rush (RIP) used to say; “a random act of journalism”.
Saker Blog is another source worth looking at.CTH is the voice of sanity. Whoever Sundance is may he live long and prosper. Hoping he never gets Epsteined.
Yes Saker is well done and reading it does not mean you endorse every article. The tone of these Russian traditional websites is so “Old School” when they speak the truth. Hah
The key from our standpoint is getting friends and family as well as the whole generation that has been “culturally appropriated” to think critically. Culturally appropriated are the rising 20 year old types. The kids that were “helicopter parented”
God bless America and God bless the Truth!
Last night on Steve Hilton’s Next Revolution she went off on another ex military guy Don Bolduc too. Said he is a politician and does not have the right opinion. Said she must correct him. I was stunned at her forcefulness.
As my father used to say, “some people think their sh*t don’t stink.”
“Wag the Dog” meets “The Babylon Bee”.
Propaganda or satire? It’s anybodies guess.
“A strange truth. Russia continues to send gas to W. Europe, mostly to NATO countries, and increased supply since the invasion started. Much of it still transits Ukraine. Russian and Ukrainian managers and technicians still cooperate 24 hrs. Russia is still paying transit fees.”
Strange indeed.
I’m assuming you mean the people on here trying to justify Putin’s invasion
No one is attempting to justify anything on either side. This site is known for posting information,
facts that one can’t find readily elsewhere. We are looking for a greater understanding of the
situation. Knowing the what for’s, the why for’s, etc. is helpful.
We are the people that learnt our lessons from the WOMD Irak war, the destruction of Libia, the almost destruction of Syria. The ones with functioning critical thinking skills, the ones that refuse to become serfs of the WEF and NWO ghouls
The central point to this discussion is why would anybody put more stock into what Griffin says than a former Colonel of the Army? He is much more experienced on this topic than Griffen ever will be. It is also interesting that former Generals who regularly appear on these shows have not, to my knowledge, offered much analysis on topic. I’m not saying that it hasn’t happened, but, if it had, wouldn’t it also be the subject of further discussion and analysis?
You can use the Russian conquest of Grozny as an analogy. During the first Chechen war, the Russians made the mistake of sending in armored columns and infantry into the city proper and were ambushed and suffered terrible losses. Then after Putin took over and initiated the second Chechen war, he changed the tactics and basically massed heavy artillery outside of the city and gave the occupants the option to surrender. If they didn’t, he pulverized city block by city block before infantry entered that area to clean up any resistance. This process took months.
I hate to say it but Kyiv will suffer the same fate. Putin may choose to demonstrate how cruel he can be on a smaller city to demonstrate to the Ukrainian government and citizens of Kyiv what’s in store if they don’t capitulate, but absent a large force to dislodge the encircling army (which would trigger a larger war), Putin will wait them out. Zelensky should offer to “Findlandize” Ukraine.
It’s an effective method as proven in Aachen Germany in October 1944. They Germans could have fled, and the German commander originally declared it an open city, but a newly appointed commander was told to fight. The US 1st Infantry division use 155 mm self-propelled artillery. Every building they received fire from the Germans was flattened.
They did a number on the first German city to fall into Allies.
This has me rethinking my position, the Colonel makes too much sense, it is obvious at this point the Russian forces are doing just as he said, holding back.
I don’t think Putin and Russian military leadership gives a rat’s backside about what the globalist media complex is thinking or saying. They and Russia aren’t really listening to the “Story” being concocted by the Western media. After the endless political lie of ‘Trump-Putin collusion’ over four hysterical years, why would they?
I think we need to be mindful to not overplay the import of the globalist media outside our own communications sphere. Here, it is in our faces and saturates 24/7, and is culturally pervasive. Not so elsewhere. Other parts of the world do not, and are not, playing along with their game. They see it for what it is, as they have their own version, too: ridiculous state propaganda to keep the masses sedated.
But more importantly, Putin explained last week why this action is against a corrupted Ukranian government, and ultimately a purge of the NWO and hostile global elements, from Russia’s very doorstep – and not aimed at the Ukrainian people.
According to Putin’s pre-invasion statement, the people of Ukraine share Russia’s “spiritual” space. That is why Russian forces to date have been so unusually careful to minimize civilian casualties. They are invading the land of “our friends, our relatives, not only colleagues, friends and former work colleagues, but also our relatives and close family members”.
The Russians are explaining this as almost a rescue operation, an intervention, to save an abused relative. You can believe it, or you cannot. But that is their apparent “Story”.
The lack of true images of mass carnage, which the globalist media would have had an epic feeding frenzy over, seems to support that approach. They are left scrambling and scouring old photo archives and social media fantasylands for their content.
Bongino is all over Putin. Claiming Ze is a hero. .
The only thing I know with absolute certainty is that president Xiden is corrupt beyond measure and that the election was stolen. Since he took office, everything has fallen apart. I went to buy coffee at Costco and an individual package of whole bean coffee went up $3 since last month – a 20% increase. I know it seems silly to bring up a “luxury” when we’re all concerned about what is going on in the world, but… this Administration is doing a better job of destroying our country than Russia is doing in Ukraine. Just sayin’. As is said, take the log out of your own eye before you point to the splinter in your brother’s eye, or something like that. Millions of people are flooding our southern border, many of which are hardened criminals. Fix that problem first. Hey, how about supplying arms to Americans so they can defend themselves in the face of a southern incursion?
Xiden is too busy kissing WEF butt cheeks. They wanted this war with Putin because he refuses to do the same.
Leave it to decorated war hero Field Marshall Jennifer to clear up the situation for us!
NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. markets pointed toward a lower open Monday and the ruble plunged to a record low of less than one U.S. penny after Western nations moved to block some Russian banks from a global payments system.
The deep state and MIC must have her on constant stand by in case anybody goes against the narrative. She has been on Fox constantly in the last few days spewing the CIA narrative. Try Gowdy is ridiculous!!! I place him on the same level as McStain.
Truth is the first casualty of war. Of any war.
As we listen to all of these different personalities “inform us” as to what is going on, remember that quote above.
That dovetailed with what I have heard from family over there and seen on all media such as BPS and The Duran
Duh… A perfectly obvious analysis.
I’ve said as much myself here. I’ve also said that if the Ukrainians continue to resist, the KGB thug will have to destroy what he wants to take intact and will do things that make him an international pariah due to the fact that what he is destroying is a WESTERN culture which most Western populations will care MUCH more about than Syrians for example.
As for the effects on NATO, Germany has pledged a huge increase in its military budget, meeting the required 2% of GDP and more.
U.S. Treasury says it’s prohibiting transactions with Russian central bank – Feb. 28, 2022
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-treasury-says-its-prohibiting-transactions-with-russian-central-bank-2022-02-28
Russian central bank is the Rothschild’s central bank, which Putin probably could care less about. I hope he causes it to implode.
This from Daily Telegraph…
Good description of tactics Ukrainian Army is using.
Bad side is that the only way the Russians can win is by reducing Ukraine to rubble, while the only way the Ukrainians can win is to kill enough Russians to make Putin cry “Uncle”.
And this is 2 decades after history ended…
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/27/dispatch-russians-rolled-kharkiv-like-victors-another-disaster/
Sorry, I thought I was coming to TheLastRefuge and not RT America, my mistake
Take it easy Jack and take a deep breath!
You might not agree with an adversary (Russia in this case), but to dismiss and ignore their legitimate security concerns is dangerously stupid. It is always wise to look at a war or a potential war from the other side’s perspective, if only to improve the effectiveness of your own efforts.
Russia is not Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya or Serbia, easy (and safe) for America and NATO to slap around. Russia has the most powerful nuclear force on the planet. Miscalculation over Ukraine can rapidly escalate into full-blown war and a nuclear exchange. For Russia, Ukraine joining NATO is a redline worth going to war over. We ignore this at our own peril.
In 1962, we already had medium-range nuclear-armed ballistic missiles in Turkey. When the USSR obtained a client state (Cuba) 100 miles from Florida, they thought it would be fair turnabout to also have their own MRBMs in range of America. (ICBMs were not yet available.) When the missiles were discovered in Cuba, the result was that America was outraged, rightly, and we very nearly had a nuclear exchange.
It was not “JFK backed down Khrushchev!” as American media portrayed it. Diplomats and generals on both sides later wrote that we came within a hair-breadth of a full nuclear exchange. In the deal that was worked out, we also (quietly) removed our MRBMs from Turkey. Part of the agreement was that the USSR would not crow about how they forced us to move our missiles out of Turkey.
Today Russia looks at Ukraine, and they see it as the 1942 invasion route of the Nazis, which came very close to cutting off their Caspian oil, which would have caused the rapid collapse and defeat of the USSR. The idea of NATO forces prepositioned across Ukraine, directly on the Russian border, armed with tanks and MRBMs, is a redline they have repeatedly said they could not tolerate.
The Russians think: at least the Germans had to fight their way to Ukraine and and then across it. How much worse to have NATO forces already in Ukraine, poised in striking range with missiles and tanks, ready to strike Moscow in minutes, and occupy or destroy the Caspian oil fields in days?
We teased Ukraine into believing that if they were compliant with American, EU and NATO desires, they’d eventually join both groups. Instead, Russia was provoked into removing the possibility of NATO forces ever being positioned in Ukraine by their own invasion. This was all entirely foreseeable.
Imagine Khrushchev saying to JFK: “Screw you, our missiles will stay in Cuba.” It would have meant nuclear war. This is how dire the Russians consider even the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO as a full partner.
We ignore their perspective at our own peril.
This is an excellent set of points @Matt Bracken. That second map explains things so nicely; that the NA and EU media totally ignore and it once again (for uncountable times), completely destroys their credibility. May I ask what is the source for this NATO map you pasted? Thank you.
Then throw this into the mix—>https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/26/stunning-discovery-evidence-suggests-u-s-intel-baited-russia-in-december-by-telling-china-ukraine-was-coming-into-nato/
Russia More Than Doubles Interest Rate To 20% To Halt Ruble Collapse, Suspends Stock Trading On Moscow Exchange
MONDAY, FEB 28, 2022
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-more-doubles-interest-rate-20-halt-rouble-collapse-suspends-stock-trading-moscow
I wonder if in the end this is the deal…….
1) If Zelensky goes down the path of joining the EU / NATO Putin can and most likely will forcefully crush Ukraine
2) Zelensky now knows he can’t trust the EU/US as they are users and abusers of Ukraine first and foremost
3) So in the end does Zelensky just cut his own deal with Putin?
4) Where the deal is Ukraine agrees never to join the EU / NATO and gives up Crimea and possibly the two eastern provinces in exchange for long term peace, steady possibly a reduced cost of energy and on going trade with Russia
It really comes down to who can Zelensky trust going forward and who isn’t going to constantly shake down his country?
FEMA: In Case Of Nuclear Explosion, Maintain Social Distancing And Wear A Mask – MONDAY, FEB 28, 2022
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/fema-case-nuclear-explosion-maintain-social-distancing-and-wear-mask
Now, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, has issued updated guidance to its “Nuclear Explosion” readiness public awareness website, which includes tips to avoid Covid!
“A nuclear explosion may occur with or without a few minutes warning,” reads the page, which was updated on Friday. “Fallout is most dangerous in the first few hours after the detonation when it is giving off the highest levels of radiation. It takes time for fallout to arrive back to ground level, often more than 15 minutes for areas outside of the immediate blast damage zones.
FEMA recommends the following steps to prevent ‘significant radiation exposure,’ which include “Try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household,” and “If possible, wear a mask if you’re sheltering with people who are not part of your household.”
Regarding maps, a short Twitter threat as a note of caution…
You do realize that the DS and the CIA scum went in and overthrew the govt of the Ukraine right? Can Fox even mention that once in their predictably boring role as controlled opposition? They make you like and trust their personalities, so they can pull these big hoaxes over your eyes.
I keep saying it, but Biden green-lighted Putin to take over Ukraine and oust the Zelenskyy government because Zelensky has the goods on the entire Biden Crime Family Syndicate and many of the Democrats in the Deep State. By getting rid of his “real enemies” Biden won’t have to worry about the Ukraine.
Is it possible that Ukraine kept some nuclear weapons as a hedge against future Russian aggression? Or was that falsehood given to China by the US IC, which leaked it to Russia, to nudge Putin to attack Ukraine? The US IC wants Putin out before the 2024 Presidential election.
Doubtful. It’s been 30 years since the USSR collapsed. Nuclear armaments require servicing and that would be hard to hide in any quantity that would act as a deterrent against Russia.
Indeed, the US and others pledged to defend Ukraine if they gave them up. How’s that been working?
Trey Gowdy is not an expert on the military or geography. He is an expert however on corruption in government having served as a sewer rat in the district of corruption.
Also an expert in selecting weird hairdos.
Thank you. I appreciate your illustrating McGregor’s perspective.
From the videos and live streams and reporting of certain journalists and Ukraine something from the very beginning has felt off about all of it. It is not a normal war. And yes any idiot can see the Russians are avoiding civilian targets. …..Any idiot except a chucklehead mouthpiece from the Media.
It was also refreshing to hear someone finally pay attention to the history of the area. Didn’t anyone find it strange of personal videos coming out of Ukraine showing old men and others talking to Russian soldiers, sometimes berating them without any consequence? That tells you something. A portion of the civilian population and the Russian soldiers are the same.
The Russians are the number two army in the world.
Does anyone seriously think that all the weapons the Russians have are low level devices and the rest of the army is incompetent? That the Russians are bumbling fools who came ill prepared and did not even consider other possibilities? Seriously? I doubt even “white rage “Milley believes that.
Lastly there’s been a ton of propaganda coming out of Ukraine in favor of the Ukrainians. That should be a clue; Don’t believe anything of what you are seeing unless it has been triple verified …and then verified again.
Only time will tell who’s right.
Anyone else but me been putting off buying a whole house generator? Think it is my main weakness right now.