CTH begins every outline of the ongoing Durham investigation with the following disclaimer: How is John Durham going to reveal everything that is possible about the deep state Trump targeting operation, and simultaneously handle the involvement of Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissmann and the Special Counsel team who were specifically appointed to cover it up?
The short answer is, Durham can’t. The ramifications would collapse the U.S. government; yes, all three collaborating branches.
As a consequence, some of these revelations are only valuable insofar as they will be needed by historians who look upon the scattered rubble of this once great republic and seek to explain to future generations how it all went wrong. [How the Fourth Branch of Government was created].
In a court filing late yesterday [Read Filing Here] special counsel John Durham dropped an explosive point into the public psyche. Durham confirms that an outside government contractor, controlled by Hillary Clinton aligned “tech executive-1” Rodney Joffe, had access to conduct electronic surveillance and spying operations into the Executive Office of The President of the United States (EOP).
Tech Executive-1 is Rodney Joffe who worked with a federal cyber contractor called Neustar.
While the surveillance and spying operation against Donald Trump is likely not a revelation to many people here, it will be quite a shock for some to see the direct admission in a public court filing. The eye-opening part is the contractor access to conduct surveillance of Trump extended into his actual presidency as the “Office of the President” was being monitored by outside agents.
Of course, the legacy media (New York Times, Politico, Washington Post, et al) will have to ignore these surveillance revelations because they so vehemently denied anyone connected to government spying on Trump it in all years past.
If you want to dig into the details of this filing, I would recommend a review of TechnoFog’s outline HERE.
The obvious question is: If Rodney Joffe is spying on the office of the president, why hasn’t he been indicted?
Unfortunately, the most likely answer starts to get into that circular silo crap we have often discussed. The feds will say they were worried about Trump as a Russian asset as he came into office, so they used extreme sensitive measures to monitor him. Rodney Joffe will say he used his access to the DNS system of the president because the feds asked him to monitor the office of the President… and you are back in that investigative circular chase that goes nowhere…. until someone says, “mistakes were made.”
I’m sure a lot of deep weeds walkers will get into even more detail about this specific filing. We’ll share the good ones and check them out.
In the interim, what’s interesting to me is a little question I have always asked for years about this surveillance set up as it starts to surface. A few years ago, when discussing the Crowdstrike stuff, DNC hack, emails to Wikileaks etc….
… I always said there were just small glances, flickers of evidence, stuff in the background, that seemed to indicate the Clinton campaign had some kind of direct access point, a portal per se, into the government database. The Clinton crew just seemed to have direct access to information that wasn’t coming from a leak, but rather from their ability to extract government data on their own.
The most obvious reason for this suspicion was the absence of an inside government broker relaying information to the Clinton crew. Sure, they had boatloads of allies in the Intel Community, CIA, DoD, State Dept, DOJ, FBI and Deep State writ large, but they also seemed to be able to have information that couldn’t be attributed to reception from a government insider.
The Clinton crew had info that didn’t come from a leak. The Clinton crew had info that was direct.
This filing might just have answered or affirmed my questions and suspicions. It could be that Rodney Joffe, working outside government with a direct pipe into the same government database, just extracted what Team Clinton needed and then passed it along. Clinton team packages it, spins it, then launders it back into the government.
There are several federal contractors with access to government databases. However, Rodney Joffe is a federal contractor with direct access to extract data who works with Clinton.
In essence, Joffe was the portal I always suspected she had.
Court Filing Here
Technofog Article Here
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A lot more will come out related to this singular court filing. Hell, I’ve got about a dozen questions from just the first few pages; however, I stand by my introductory disclaimer, no-one inside government can/will be touched.
All three branches of government participated in the corrupt and illegal targeting of Donald J Trump, a political outsider. And all three branches of government have also participated in the cover-up.
CTH – “In the era shortly after 9/11, the DC national security apparatus was constructed to preserve continuity of government and simultaneously view all Americans as potential threats. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) were created specifically for this purpose.
What Barack Obama and Eric Holder did with that new construct was refine the internal targeting mechanisms so that only their ideological opposition became the target of the new national security system. This is very important to understand as you dig deeper into this research outline.
Washington DC created the modern national security apparatus immediately and hurriedly after 9/11/01. DHS came along in 2002 and within the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 the ODNI was formed. When Barack Obama and Eric Holder arrived a few years later, those newly formed institutions were viewed as opportunities to create a very specific national security apparatus that would focus almost exclusively against their political opposition.” READ MORE
I’ve always told my friends … most of this started with the Clintons. And Bush let the Clintons get away with it because they are one and the same … members of the UNIPARTY. The Fabian Socialist UNIPARTY. And this will not end well.
Kudo’s Also known as the Council On Foreign Relations. A genuine Fascist organization. Government, Media, Corporations are its membership. The very definition of “Fascism”. They are globalists and have been working to undermine & betray America and have done a pretty good job at destroying Heritage America
https://www.cfr.org/
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When Bill Clinton accidentally won the presidency instead of GHWBush because of Ross Perot, Bush’s CIA used dirt on the Clintons to get them into line. The Clintons played ball and any tensions or difficulties mostly revolved around “what’s in it for me”.
There are no accidents in the office of the president that don’t get taken out unfortunately
Perot would have won if not for Bush dirty tricks. Recall he threatened his family (daughter’s wedding, iirc)
All Perot lies … Perot did NOT want to win … he just wanted bush41 to lose … as revenge for Perots perceived grievances.
And then Hillary stole thousands of FBI Files … and has been blackmailing RINOS ever since.
+++Add The Kenyan in and you get a three-fer.
Four-fer if you wanna’ count Big Mike too.
Hey, it’s The Swamp, let’s just throw in the kids too, as a BONUS.
Do you think so?? It would be comforting to think that the “evil” Clintons started all this naughty subversion, but…
it really makes my brain itch when I think back on all the other conundrums that have happened, even in my short lifetime.
Unfortunately, it probably goes much further back.
GHBush did Kennedy.
GWBush did 9/11.
Hello Kitty, I do think most of the successful infiltration of the Republican Party by the UNIPARTY began with the Clintons and that’s the key to what’s going on now. The thousands of illegally obtained FBI files had a purpose and we first saw the result of it during the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. And it was the Clintons who first truly corrupted the FBI, IRS, DOJ, and the mainstream media in the effort to escape their misdeeds.
That’s not to say this subversion of America by Fabians doesn’t go back earlier. I’ve made a number of posts talking about the origins of the effort, going all the way back to the Fabian Society’s infiltration of US universities (particularly Harvard) back in the 1890s, then the administrations of Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR … and all the legislation and agencies they created. Plus Fabians clearly influenced LBJ’s actions.
You can think of those earlier people as laying the foundation for what was to come … for what we’re now living through. And our last chance to have prevented what’s happening was during the Clinton administration. Unfortunately, Fabians already had “move on” Bush under their thumb plus enough of the alphabet agencies of the government to insure that the crimes of the Clintons, including murder, went unpunished. That success then gave Obama and company confidence they could get away with anything … including stealing elections.
But notice that even in that effort the Clintons and their lackeys played a huge role and they keep popping up again and again … even today. You heard there’s talk of Hillary running again? Don’t discount that talk.
1963 was the start, and senator Prescott Bush was part of that!
It started in 1947. September 18th as I recall.
1963 was just a reminder to all that you either cooperate or you get to go for a ride in a convertible.
It started with herr daddy bush
I wish we could get to an end, good or ill.
A lot of the players in this are getting old or ill. Who is up next?
Hillary is not in great health and George Soros is 91.
The Davos group is still vital enough, but they won’t really be in charge in 20 years.
I suppose there are up and comers that I don’t know about.
The Bush/Cheney/McConnell cartel have been exposed to their base and are ineffective leaders
at this point.
I guess Sundance has pointed out that the fourth branch of government, the spy agencies really are controlling things now. How is that going for them? The world is not impressed.
Biden is the puppet.
But great things cannot be accomplished by committee. Who is their top dog?
Their strength is that they have not been readily visible.
But their idea of success is to destroy a prosperous and wonderful country? To what end? They want to rule the world? But who will do their laundry and cook their eggs?
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Compare this:
1) https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/antifa-terrorist-pipe-bombs-targeted-jan-6-patriot-event-released-jail-without-posting-bond-j-6er-jeremy-brown-still-held-jail-committing-misdemeanor/
2) And this breach of national security explained above
with the persecuted ordinary citizens held and tortured in the D C gulag !
Need I say more ?????
Pinellas County is run by Commies! The leadership in population centers in Florida are hot garbage.
Concurring meh. At this point knowing how the sausage was made doesn’t change anything until the truckloads of pork stop coming into the plant. You can only eliminate the pork in some specific ways and those suckers free range now without any limitation.
When will they finally lock her up?
The Twelfth of Never.
This will continue to grow until we are In a dictatorship. These crimes need to be exposed. It is inaction that allows this criminal enterprise to grow. If you/we wait until the round up of undesirable thought has begun, it will be to late.
I can’t be the only person to see the resemblance to
1930’s Germany! From what I have seen this collapse is already occurring. McConnell would be comparable to Chamberlain if he owned German Oldendorff shipping carriers.
Instead of German his is Chinese !!!
I remember when they seized records from Trump’s lawyer. I’ve always wondered why Perkins-Coie’s records haven’t been seized.
previous filings have indicated that P-C records were subpoenaed.
Subpoena v. Search warrant is a big difference!
Doing it by the book, for once. I know, it hurts to give the black hats the due process they deny their enemies, but let’s assume we are going to win and need to preserve the concept of the rule of law in order to build the “It’s going to be glorious.”
New foundation needs to be built solid, no short cuts.
D o google on the various lawyers at that firm, and the answer will be your’s!
They were, and also Durham last week had the A GJ judge divide the perps from their lawyers. It’s almost never done, but in cause of the lawyers are also going to be indicted
Mike Rogers the original white hat?, where has he disappeared to?
I believe PDJT has a few cards up his sleeve. The best is yet to come.
Admiral Mike Rogers single-handedly saved our country, albeit only for four years.
How? Trump was already moving out of the Trump Tower to NJ at the advice of the SS. Trump Tower was harder to defend from a truck/car bombing. Mike Rodgers isn’t all he been made out to be.
Mike Rogers was a one hit wonder. Never heard a peep out of the guy for four years while Weissman and his 17 Angry Democrats from Brooklyn were trying to frame President Trump for a crime that never even happened!
Adm Rogers and Gen Flynn fit the ROct movie as Cpt Ramius. Heroes! Defecters. ‘Combat tactics Mr Ryan’.
Nice…saw what you did there. 😉
I’m still baffled that Adm. Rogers has been allowed to stride away with no follow up. He must have a really thick binder, and an effective dead man switch.
Whatever happened to John McAfee’s dead man switch?
Good question. Is he even dead?
Allegedly his body is still on ice in Spain due to the “Investigation. ” Really?
same thing that happened to Assanges.
the CIA will stalk you until you are in a duplicate of your world (thinking its real) and they will then find every secret as you stall.
never stall – drop it, in any way you think of.
millions of post – with one letter off – all public, then give people the code one day to go back. no way to delete it at that point.
Everyone was surprised by John McAfee sudden and unexpected suicide but nobody was more surprised than John McAfee himself!
I don’t know but I was just thinking of Rodgers yesterday.
I don’t think he wants any part of the political disaster this Country has become
But we need him and many more like him more than ever
All Rogers did was temporary. The Collyer and Boasberg reports say the abuse hasn’t stopped.
And neither of them has done one thing about it!
Meanwhile, Collyer and Boasberg have done nothing stop it!
Rogers alerted Trump to the spying that was going on at NSA. He couldn’t have been more helpful to expose those traitors when he did, so Trump at least had a heads up.
Insider politicians probably all know the score, but Trump did not. Look how brazen Hillary’s team was and what we will learn as this investigation continues.
And the illegal activity (deemed legal by the deep state or whatever you want to call it) continues today. The takeover of the American public continues by cyber intrusion and control. Spying on every single banking transaction by the IRS is in the works today. Try to deposit a check to a personal banking account for $5000 or more and the Fed holds a portion of the funds for 10 days. It’s just the beginning of the controls. Imagine if there’s no paper currency and it’s all digital?
I had a bank draft for $100,000. my bank held funds for 10 days not just a portion all of it. I argued with them as it was from another bank, they could have called verified and no issues. Nope then after back and forth said 10 business days the full amount. When the 10 days were up I went to my bank asked for a draft for the full amount, the questions I was asked. My answer to them was, none of your business. Bloody banks, we were with the same branch for years.
Go to a smaller, local bank.
Close your account and leave!
They hold for 10 days to extract interest.
Is this one of those moments when her highness says, “At this point, want difference does it make?” She cares nothing about the solvency of our country. GRIFTER!
i want to see some heads roll on this indignity and crimes against our Republic, to our sitting President, and when he was running. Do you understand why they are fighting tooth and tong against a valid, clean 2000 election now?
Sundance, I’m rereading your linked article “how the 4th branch was constructed “.
It remains a brilliant piece of research and analysis
Yes, it does!
So what Sundance is in essence telling us is that every enhanced spy operation instituted after 9/11 has been used against We The People and not foreign terrorists! Further there is nothing we can do to stop it or punish those that have missed used those spying capabilities?
“The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.“
James Madison – Speech, Constitutional Convention (June 29, 1787)
Heck, even wimpy Macron has shut down terror mosques right and left….. but we still have not despite multiple imams still preaching hate against the US and our Fellow Americans. I thought the Patriot Act (or even just normal uncowed citizens) would have done this already.
Nope! Obama paid the mosques to be charter schools teaching Islam!
Time will tell… whether we can stop it and bring the perpetrators to justice. IF we can, then our nation and the free world … survives… and we can look forward to a number of good years, hopefully many.
I like your take on this. We will know this year whether we return to a Constitutional government or remain a Communist/Fascist/Totalitarian government.
For most People they will not realize they are in fact subjects of a Communist/Fascist/Totalitarian government until it is too late. I don’t know, the fact we had a fraudulent Presidential election is not the realization of probably over half the American voters.
Too me, it is unacceptable and discouraging but is what it is. More people are waking-up, but “too late” becomes a concerning factor. The Canadian Tucker Convoy outcome is a huge factor as to “what happens next” of tremendous USA and World impact.
The terrorist are subcontractors to the US govt.
Is there anything or founding fathers could have done to protect us from the state of affairs we find ourselves in with this? I know in the end it’s all dependent on the citizens the system is entrusted to, and that we fell asleep at the wheel, but had Madison, et al had gotten a glimpse of today would they have instituted any further protections?
The country just ignored the wholesale violation of the 4th Amendment these past twenty or more years by uniparty of all stripes – what can you do?
The ultimate guarantors of our freedom are We the American People. We have to value freedom enough to be vigilant.
Prior generations either directly experienced or heard from their parents and grandparents about British oppression. It was only two to three generations from the Revolutionary War to the Civil War. Our generations are complacent, asleep on the foundational myths while oblivious to the termites because we really don’t believe in the existence of termites. Our ancestors knew better. There are always termites.
there is no tyrant more oppressive than the one claiming to do it for “your own good”….the PATRIOTS Act was enacted to “protect” us was the claim at the time…..it did that if you can equate slavery as “protection”….government can only gain power at the expense of the governed and rarely relinquish power gained
They did all that they could.
Of course, everything that they did has been ignored/subverted.
So, no. There is nothing more that our founders could have done that
would not have been broken, breached, ignored, trampled, etc., etc.
They recognized the limits of written protections, and thereby the potential need to take alternate actions, when they wrote the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. If things get bad enough for us we have the responsibility to our selves to shed the current, broken government, and start anew.
The ways we’ve strayed from their guidance are many.
There’s been a concerted effort by those perverting the governance of our country and they’ve been at it for decades.
Remember when Civics was required? My generation does.
And generations prior to mine, many a patriotic speech was memorized for class requirements.
It is much easier to take something of great worth from someone if they do not know its true worth.
“As a consequence, some of these revelations are only valuable insofar as they will be needed by historians who look upon the scattered rubble of this once great republic and seek to explain to future generations how it all went wrong.”
But the victors won’t.
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”
We’ve known for sometime that whatever is found out about the criminal elements within our government won’t be prosecuted. They won’t prosecute themselves. Judiciary is in on it.
Did the Clintons ever return the furniture they lifted as
they moved out in January ’01 ?
If no, then consider that we have not prosecuted them, exposed them,
shamed them, nothing.
Expect more of the same.
Due to SD…It’s the THING we know. And know nothing will be done about it. So again we endure the same silly games THEY politicians play at the expense of US.
IT is THEY who rigged elections. Got Americans fired. Shuttered businesses. Shut down funerals. Closed down churches. Stole childhoods. All for nothing.
We should grab EVERY one of the 535 and walk them to the Potomac for a LONG swim. I HATE every one of them.
Just saw the notice on ‘doxing’. I’d hate to think this site has been taken over by 3 letter government agencies. The fact is, if you don’t know exactly who the enemy is, you cannot begin to fight them. Information is totally necessary. Good luck all.
What’s all the doxing stuff?
No idea!
I have no idea either, but I think those at whom Sundance’s admonishment is aimed have a VERY good idea.
In response to SD’s post about MI tow companies sending tow trucks to do what Canadian tow companies REFUSED to do, several comments named the companies suspected to be involved, and listed information as to where they are located.
This puts the CTH at risk, if someone acts with that information to damage those companies or harm their employees. Not only that, but there are laws regarding doxxing that could but the CTH at risk, even though the site itself didn’t make the comment.
It’s wrong. Don’t do it.
Some of us forgot this. (I know I did)
Ok so do it elsewhere then. This is a great site, and I have no desire for it to change, but if you wish to dox find a place where it’s acceptable and have at it. Different parts of this conflict have to be fought on different fronts. You don’t go to church for a fistfight. Act accordingly.
I thing it’s mostly because of what’s been going on with the Trucker’s Protest. I saw some posts where specific names and contact information about tow truck companies that may potentially start working with the police in towing protestor vehicles was getting posted in the comments section.
Correct me if I am wrong! Didn’t POTUS Trump move out of the Executive Office for several weeks while it was being “renovated” shortly after he took office? I felt then and still believe they had found monitoring devices.
That was the story that was “out there” (among alternative media) and that we were led to believe. I never saw any refutation of that story by PDJT or his trusted reps.
So, was Rodney Joffe the one who helped with the renovation??
Guess he needed to install fresh wire. Hmmmm.
The renovations were several months in. After the leaked phone call transcript. There is no exact timing in the government doc we are looking at.
Melania also delayed moving in. Until after the exorcism.
He found “gold” in the walls and said it is always amazing what you find during a renovation. The folks at GSA were very accommodating and got the “re-model” done in two days.
So the Office of the President can be surveilled without the Secret Service knowing? The implications of that to the personal security of the President are chilling
The Secret Service knew!
John Brennan and Comey – that would explain their smugness.
But remember kids, the guy in the Chewbacca bikini is the real insurrectionist.
So between the situation described by Sundance and the tyrannical response in Canada, does anyone see themselves as ever living in an open and free society again?
I think we have a better chance with the Canadians than with Durham.
Yes. On the political point.
We wouldn’t be here discussing this if the other side had not already lost a big part of the war. PDJT would have been impeached, imprisoned, or dead already. He’s not any of those. In fact, he is politically stronger than ever.
PDJT clearly believes it to be possible or he wouldn’t have put his life, his family, and his fortune on the line like he did. And he seems very confident these days.
Bannon has a good point about the technological threat to humanity, however. That’s not nearly as easily addressed. Gene editing, neural links, AI. We’re going to need better defenses. The whole current structure that the Davos group spent trillions building needs to be ripped down, from the surveillance cameras to the NSA databases to the three letter agencies to the “medical” system to the school accreditation structure.
On both the politicalsnd the technological, we must pray without ceasing.
Only slightly off-topic…
When Barr / Durham permitted government attorney Kevin Clinesmith (not only an Officer of the Court, but a Sworn Constitutional Law Enforcement Officer) to plea to altering a written document used as the basis for spying on a private U.S. Citizen by asserting it was “unintentional” they allowed this little creep to avoid the appropriate criminal charge that underlies this entire debacle, thereby shredding, destroying, spindling and mutilating the Fourth Amendment Rights of ALL Americans.
Clinesmith should have been jailed the second Horowitz exposed the crime, he should still be in federal prison and disbarred for life for Deprivation of Rights Under The Color Of Law along with several dozen other government apparatchiks.
All the elements are there – UNLESS – the defendant is permitted to claim it was “unintentional” which, given the fact pattern, is an insult . . . . and shame on the court as well for accepting this plea.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law
good point(s)
^^^ This ^^^
it isnt double jeopardy if you charge him for a real crime, and charge the prosecutor
Maybe he wore a wire. Maybe he turned state’s evidence.
Timing matters.
Lull your enemy to sleep, make him think you are weak when you are strong – then strike like a thunderbolt.
Both sides read Sun Tzu.
So… Durham doxxed Rxxxxy Jxxxe?
Given the “Horowitz Angst” on display a few days back, that the IG held back information because Durham did not ask for it, it is baffling that Durham has not also sought the lists and reports Admiral Mike Rogers, in his role as NSA Director, submitted for review to the Federal Judge covering contractor use of FISA inquiries. There have to be names on that list, which go beyond Clinton related names. the Judge and Admirl Rogers found that over 85% of thse inquiries violated civil rights of the US Targets.
Recall it was Admiral Rogers who warned President Elect Trump to move his HQ among other warnings.
In addition, it is still odd that Clinton was manipulating Executive Branch agencies under Comrade Obama’s direction as “Chief Executive”, to gather information with Comrade Obama not being informed. Recall it was Representative Nunes reading an old Presidential Daily Brief (of Obama’s) in the White House Skiff that set off the fire storm and got Nunes removed from his post.
It is hard not to believe this is a preemptive strike by a faction of the democrat party designed to keep Hillary quiet, besides protecting St. Barrack.
you are over the target rich environment.
please continue
Thanks.
We spent allot of time, here on CTH, discussing reviews and reports prepared by Admiral Rogers back in 2016-17.
I believe the Federal Judge reviewing reports by Admiral Rogers was Rosemary Mayers Collyer.
It is 100% impossible for Durham to not have knowledge of nor access to anything done by Admiral Rogers and Judge Collyer as well as IG Horowitz that are directly related to this case, except due to willful ignorance and doing as directed by his boss US AG Garland.
I believe you are indeed correct.
Horowitz will be charged witH obstruction of justice. And the end of his IG service
All of the SOB COMMIES involved should be charged with TREASON. And hung.
That is said over and over again. I think every American Patriot has known this for a long, long time. It is one thing to know the obvious and another thing to do something about it. It becomes a “feeling” of discouragement and helplessness.
Despair is the enemy of resolve.
Whatever it takes.
I’ll let loose with my screams of frustration and carry on. There really is no other choice to make.
legal and technical definition matters.
notice…”exploited”.
this does not say, “used”, or “looked at”
exploited.
it IS a very specific legal meaning, with also a technical definition too.
to exploit something is to abuse that thing in order (in this case), to surveill, using data.
now, the context.
when using DNS, all matters of security rides upon two fundamental factors:
there is more, but the issue is about the language.
this was more than just theft, the invasion of privacy….and more than state surveillance.
legally and technically, the means to sniff traffic from a private (presumably https (possible vpn) with authenticated uber secure deep entropy laced site certification…trump enterprises..billions is flow..they would be choosing the best front, middle and backend security.,…
what this means is ..
yeah let me just cut to the chase.
this has CIA shitstain all over it.
cia contractors…hired out through to cutout university with ‘advisors/handlers” making the big jumps.
or they could have just compromised the god mode super user for trump enterpises…but I doubt it. that’s really not how the cia does cyberwarfare. they do the impossible to attribute stuff.
(not impossible, just required informed opinion and some imagination based on history of the “farm”.
God Bless America
then we simply message as — CIA backdoored into Domestic surveillance systems that were specificalyl firewalled off from them by the law that created them.
The consequence is the permanent disbandment of it under the Defense intelligence Agency.
Admiral Rogers outted these contractors in his review of FISA Inquiries, which was reviewed by a Federal Judge and found to have violated civil rights. That review and report is what got him silnced and removed as NSA Director.
Sorry for repeat, just saw your name aligns with one above.
you have it correct..the ENTIRE LTGEN FLYNN ISSUE is similar to that of RADM ROGERS.
the only difference (bear with me), is that LTGEN FLYNN took the issue and made it public, broadly.
RADM Roger DID HIS CONSTITUTIONALLY OATHED DUTY, and I do not want to downgrade his purpose.
But he simply did not stand up in public and point fingers.
If you didn’t run down the rabbit hole, investigate the details, you would unlikely have even considered the courage of RADM Rogers to do his own professional duty to advise a duly elected PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE to take cover.
LTGEN held a different view about his DUTY. He considered the issue so abhorrent to everything that matters about red lines with surveillance against private US citizens, he went rambo.
the difference between the two is obvious when considering how the corrupt central deep state targeted Flynn, but not Rogers. (yet).
I have prayed about this issue. I believe in the truth, good, bad or very ugly.
My prayers are that RADM Rogers suits up and decides his duty includes to convey facts about the surveillance apparratus and who was involved.
BUT, and this is important to understand, what that means is that he would essentially need to communicate a wide conspiracy that includes:
CIA and its contractors.
DOJ/FBI
State Department
Congress
Foreign intelligence actors(state level and contractors) to include M16 principly and also russian AND CCP assets.
and his own NSA and contractors.
My prediction is that the corrupt state will or have already compromised RADM Rogers.
with the example made of Flynn, I think that RADM Rogers is in a most grave situation…
some believe that Pence was threatened (compromised) by the CIA also and that is why he went south and went along with the coup. My own personal opinion is that Pence was compromised long ago with a variety of compromat up to and including his OWN peepee tapes and ‘steele 2.0 dossiers of his own”.
that’s how the cia plays…how they have always played.
some people have this idea/notion that the FBI maintains order by holding (or manufacturing) bad ugly sgtuff about people. Behind the DOJ/FBI and DOD is the cia…post ww2, the CIA runs about everything….
the patriot act, among other new laws has allowed the cia to openly do things they would have had to conceal.
But it really doesn’t matter. The CIA operates totally independent of any laws, oversight, congressional power or morality. These are people who are motivated to accomplish one goal: expand power and manipulation and set the global/national narratives…which is a trillion dollar effort!
God Bless America
tiger — agree with everything you say but would add DIRNSA LTG Hayden to the conspiracy list and all the lawyers that approved FISA requests in NSA prior to FBIs direct access to NSA databases.
Additionally, I would add the Patriot Act was the green light to make the digital connections between NSA and FBI (which theoretically violates the separation of powers between exec branch and jud branch)
The work under the direction of Ms Baginski allowed FBI agents/contractors access to NSA databases.
“…She was in charge of adapting the FBI’s intelligence capabilities with information technologies, and created an intelligence-sharing platform…”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_Baginski
“…She will divide her time between work at the FBI and other service of critical importance to the national security community…”
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-announces-new-role-for-maureen-a.-baginski
Your point about the Patriot Act is spot on. Before the 9/11 Investigation and Patriot Act, it was actually illegal for linkages to exist between data bases. That was a preliminary excuse offered by the INTEL and Law Enforcement. The purposely created silos discovered by Sundance during his foray into the DC actually existed for legal reasons pre-Patriot Act.
The were members of the FBI and INTEL saying it in public.
The Patriot Act opened the door and made it legal. DHS is the inevitable afterbirth of opening that door.
Well, it’s a darned good thing that in January 2021, the CIA lost the ability to have Spec Ops support in its operations then, isn’t it?
I’m yelling timber . . . No one Better than Ezra?
Also, on RADM Roger’s, his timing of “discovering” and shutting down the contractor database access in early 2016 could not have been more perfectly timed to disrupt, from an unforeseen direction, the normal methods of spying on the Trump campaign. That forced the cabal to improvise with Strzock, Page, and Manafort (and Carter Page?), leaving them off balance, insecure, and having to commit even more brazen crimes.
Sometimes, you can throw a spanner in at just the right time and do more in 6 months than another could do in 6 years. I’m grateful to RADM Roger’s for everything that flowed downstream from that. Hope he is safe and well.
As for Gen Flynn, he’s a Defense Intel spook and he didn’t see a compromise operation coming at him? Nah. What a beautiful black sky.
I’ll admit to not keeping 100% up to date with all developments, but where/when was it established that Georgia Tech is the U.S.-based university mentioned?
Good question as I do not recall that one either.
Although, there is that pesky State of Georgia again.
No wonder they are so hyped on their fake “1/6 Insurrection” narrative…. This is where the real sedition and insurrection took place. They are always projecting….ALWAYS!!
This is treason.
Exactly 💯
But if most players profit 📈 from it, then “none dare call it treason”.
From my point of view the Gov. has collaped….really only hanging by a horse hair.
The bronze age media, surveillance high tech, big death pharma and the Geobbels goberment is not trusted.
Everthing that was said to be debunked is proven true. Gov spying, rigged election, climate haox etc. The blue collar middle class is keeping the country together until they go on full national strike. This had to happen, this is the great reset.
Joffe and his operation were in the news months ago. The Office of President part I do not recall. But Joffe and Co. working for Perkins-Coie as a news item I recall without doubt.
Nicolae and Elena were invincible too, and then they were gone. The key: General Victor Stanculescu.
The Fourth Branch is self-installed and self-invincible before regular political and legal authority but not self-invincible before regular spiritual and military authority.
Asking a few questions is “suspicious activity” and you will be reported to authorities
Homeland Security@DHSgov
Suspicious activity may include questioning personnel beyond curiosity about an event, facility, or operation. Learn the signs so you can report a tip.
“Protect Your Every Day” – Righty Oh
Durham is just 5 years late.
Hopefully some are held accountable but mostly the world has moved on.
He had to start over with his entire work product when he was out as Us attorney and in as spec prosecutor
Ah BS, we were discussing ALL the same EVIDENCE right here in 2015 forward.
There is NO excuse.
Sundance, I just love the picture and reference to the HAL 9000 from the film “2001: A Space Odyssey”.
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HAL (Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer)
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HAL 9000: “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”
HAL 9000: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.
HAL 9000: “This conversation can serve no purpose anymore, goodbye.”
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Seeing that film in 1968 had a important impact on me. The same year I saw on TV, Mao Tse Tung’s cultural revolution in China.
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It was nutty to see people wave a Little Red Book in the air, fervently so they did not have to go to “re-education camps”.
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Marxists today are still very proud of Mao’s work even though even in China today the Cultural Revolution is considered a disaster.
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https://www.marxists.org/ebooks/mao/Quotations_from_Chairman_Mao_Tse-tung.pdf
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For those in Rio Linda, AUTHORITARIANISM is the linkage between the the film “2001: A Space Odyssey” and the Cultural Revolution.
Speaking of Rio Linda….I miss Rush so much. I often think what in the world he would be saying about this mess we are in today.
I miss tuning in the radio at work or with family to hear Rush.
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Whatever Rush said, was typically entertaining and funny.
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I also always loved hearing Mark Steyn, thankfully we can still hear from him.
They took out Ross Perot (too old and a bit susceptible to kooks).
They took out the Tea Party.
But they couldn’t take out Donald Trump.
BREAKING NEWS???
Ratcliffe says 1,000 intel documents given to Durham support more charges
espionage
treason
Defund the Police State!
That is wonderful ^^^^^^
Exactly 💯
But if most profit 📈 from it, “then none dare call it treason”.
I wish Rush was still alive to participate in this discussion. Debbie Babbermouth-Schultz had two cybercriminals on her staff, and we never got the final story on them. What could possibly happen next?
His voice is needed now more than anytime during his illustrious career! I miss him every day…the best friend I never met.
rush IGNITED a nation of patriots.
We have ALL benefited from his life work which continues.
that IS legendary.
I too miss hearing his voice and thoughts. The many hours spent listening to his wise counsel gave me hope that ONE DAY, people would take action.
that day has happened..and continues.
I really can’t think of a person more deserving of the presidential medal awarded to him.
I think Rush would approve: WE THE PEOPLE are wearing that medal and continuing the work!
God Bless America
Rush, and I’m curious what Andrew Breitbart would have to say about our current state of affairs.
There’s a certain three letter word he famously spoke. 😉
Ironically, I was just mentioning yesterday whatever happened to Durham! Then ole Hillary is raising her hoof to make some dims beg her to save them in 24.
I don’t believe in coincidences. Those in power don’t want her anywhere near the WH again.
I hoe you’re right.
This seems to confirm the claim in March of 2017 when Trump tweeted “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory,”
If Trump knew he was being spied on and the information was going to the Clinton campaign why could he not feed them false information? It would be the ultimate in ironies if Hilary was blindsided as to realities of the 2016 electoral map by her own illegal surveillance.
if I was to say: he did just that, what do you believe what would have happened?
spoiler: distracting a corrupt secret police state doesn’t gain anything///when a police state takes aim, they are laser focused to USE ANYTHING (manufacture it even) to take down anyome.
Exactly 💯
Whether prosecutions, “to the fullest extent of the law” occur, is something that we will just have to wait & see….
Notice all the fear porn coming from Jake Sullivan?
Could this have something to do with all that Durham is about to file?
Like everyone else, I am hopeful, but will be very surprised if prosecutions truly happen.
However, …
isn’t it interesting that Pres. Trump has just recently started talking about how “alot” more will be coming from Durham –just this past week on Il Donaldo Trumpo’s Twatter account !?
When I saw that on Il Donaldo’s account, it hit me that Pres. Trump really has not discussed Durham for awhile.
…just something I noticed.
When President Trump was redecorating the WH dining room (down to the studs) I remember him saying there was gold behind thise walls.
… and when that room was redone, the leaks were cut substantially…
One thing I’ve been wondering about the Durham investigation is whether its purpose is to keep Hillary and those associated with her from running again. In other words, the Obama faction wants to keep out the Hillary faction, and Durham’s slow walked investigation is how they are doing it. We know the real perps won’t get indicted, but perhaps there will be more indictments of those on team Hillary. Which is troubling because it suggests the GOP establishment supports team Obama.
Unfortunately, the most likely answer starts to get into that circular silo crap we have often discussed. The feds will say they were worried about Trump as a Russian asset as he came into office, so they used extreme sensitive measures to monitor him.
then why aren’t they investigating Biden and themselves?
They don’t care about our Constitutional Republic Citizens,
Only their globalist Marxist Fascist Bureaucracy.
Kinda makes me wonder if the current Ukraine flames were fanned so hard just before this came out for a reason ? That dog is getting wagged pretty hard…
Again about that fire 🔥 at the Clinton residence…
“What outside server?”
Thank you for this information and for all your research and the sharing of it. It leaves me stunned every time.
In other words, we’re fooked. That’s that. Black pills for all!
Not being sarcastic. We’re just waiting. And the only hope is that the qew-stuff is possible.
It all seems so hopeless.
Yay! 😑
It’s not hopeless at all.
Everyone should take some comfort from the undeniable evidence that white hats do, apparently, exist.
It’s just going to get scary for a while probably.
And we need to all do our part, which is not at the high level spy games but at the school board, precinct, and town sheriff level.
The war for control of the US has been going on since Prescott Bush and his buddies.
Actually, looking back and putting the puzzle pieces together, it seems that the British Throne never gave up on wanting to secure complete dominion over North America. They lost temporarily during the first American Revolution, when their oppression of the Scots came back to bite them in the hind parts at the Battle of Cowpens and the French saved our tails as a geostrategic move. So they strategically retreated,
thinking they’d mop us up when we fell apart. We didn’t, thanks to Madison’s brilliance and Rev. Witherspoon’s tutelage.
Then they tried the War of 1812. Didn’t work.
Then they tried the split strategy using Judah Benjamin and support of Civil War. Didn’t work.
So they shifted to the long term infiltration and monetary method of conquering us.
Fast forward to Dominion Voting Sytems with its ties to the Queen’s Privy Council members, Mark Molloch Brown. Add in some M16 assists on the spying, a little Strzock
outside the CONUS trip, Halper at Oxford . . .
They never really gave up, did they?
For some of us, the enemy hasn’t changed in 250 years, or if you want to go back even further, all the way back to William Wallace. Same old, same old.
Dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
All BS, Trump and the Clintons are old chums. Trump is a puppet like every other installed president. These soap opera stories just prop up our illusion of voting.
Bless your heart…Southern Man!
Neil, Neil, Neil…