Candace Owens likely felt some need to follow up on her interview with President Trump due to overwhelming opinion of Trump’s vaccine position. Unfortunately, she attempts to reconcile President Trump’s position by casting aspersions toward him [Daily Mail Article].
Mrs. Owens reconciles President Trump’s support for the three COVID-19 vaccines by saying he’s too old to understand the troublesome vaccine information and doesn’t use the internet for his research. WATCH:
https://youtu.be/IBOk3b3BJjM
President Trump’s position on the vaccines –as a tool in the arsenal to combat the pandemic– is essentially unremarkable. Trump supports the vaccines that were developed, under the goal of providing protection for people against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, by the scientific community. However, President Trump repeatedly insists that no one should be mandated to take the vaccine.
The essential Trump position has consistently been:
‘The American and international scientific and medical establishment have determined that SARS-CoV-2 represents a significant threat to public health. In response, the United States Center for Disease Control (CDC), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH); in coordination with the World Health Organization (WHO) and various governments around the globe, have worked with scientists and pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines to be deployed under emergency authorizations. Those vaccines are available for the American public to consider and use, if a person is worried about their health risk.’
That’s it, that’s the sum total of President Trump’s position.
Trump doesn’t feel people should be pressured, forced, coerced or mandated to take a vaccine. Nor should anyone be subject to discrimination or division based on their unique medical decision. Vaccination is an individual choice, and President Trump has said, repeatedly, he respects anyone’s decision either way, and the federal government should not be involved. From my perspective, this is non-controversial.
Additionally, despite the proclamations of many who have even written on these comment sections, this position is not only the same as Florida Governor ¹Ron DeSantis, but also identical.
Again, position encapsulated: “Here’s what the professionals who work for your federal government have come up with, use them as you see beneficial to yourself and your family.”
In addition to the vaccine development approach, in 2020 President Trump authorized the U.S. medical community to work collaboratively to immediately provide therapeutic options and antibody treatments as tools and resources for doctors and infected patients to use in treatment.
Critics of President Trump have argued that the former president should now be taking a strong position in opposition to the vaccines as a result of new information which undermines the original efficacy of them. The vaccines now require boosters, and the vaccines do not stop the spread of infection, ergo they are useless or potentially worse, might cause harm.
Despite these issues, the position of the United States government has not changed, and all of the previous U.S. medical institutions who advised on the original approach toward vaccination against the pandemic have not reversed their position. Those are the current decision makers for public health, not Donald Trump.
The public ire directed toward President Trump would be more appropriately targeted toward the professionals in the scientific and medical establishment who are in the current position to make a modification or reversal in their approach.
There are many people using hindsight to criticize President Trump saying: with revelations over the past two years the entire U.S. medical establishment no longer holds credibility. However, at the time those original pandemic mitigation decisions were made, and President Trump activated a Cornavirus Taskforce led by Vice President Mike Pence, how many American people really understood the political nonsense happening deep inside the CDC, FDA and NIH?
It’s fair to say almost no one knew how corrupt those institutions of U.S. public health were at the time when the first concerns of the COVID virus were raised. Similarly, few people knew how corrupt the FBI and U.S. intelligence apparatus was in 2016 when those institutions were spying on and targeting candidate Trump. Most of the identified revelations of historic corruption surface only as a result of investigations after the fact.
Approximately two-thirds of the American population have taken the vaccine shot(s), and a large number of them are currently in the process of getting boosters. We can only imagine what would happen if the U.S. government was to officially state the vaccinations are now determined to be detrimental in some manner or form. That’s why it is certain, regardless of the danger or lack thereof from the vaccination itself, the U.S. government will never, ever, reverse course on their claims of vaccine safety, or even value.
Expecting some entity or individual in the United States to be capable of forcing the United States government, or any medical institution within it, to admit they are potentially harming the public – is an exercise in futility. It will never happen. Ever. That Rubicon was crossed well over a year ago.
We are now at the point where the FDA is authorizing, under emergency use processes, just about anything the medical establishment tells them to authorize. Which, understandably, has resulted in even fewer people participating in anything the FDA, CDC and NIH come up with.
Is the COVID-19 virus, or any iteration of a variant therein, likely no worse than a severe flu strain? The answer to that has always been, maybe. When you layer on sunlight showing how political the FDA, CDC & NIH institutions are, the answer shifts to ‘more than likely.’ However, we are operating now with a hindsight that was not available before, and even now data is still kept from the overwhelming majority of the American people, and Big Tech has been instructed to do exactly that.
Candace Owens reconciles President Trump’s position by saying, “he’s old” and “he doesn’t use the internet for his own research.” To me that is not only curt and ridiculous, that position shows me Mrs. Owens does not understand the importance of the stable mindedness needed for success at the scale of a United States president.
I said at the early phase of the COVID fear and pandemic rising how we were fortunate to have Donald Trump in the White House, because his general disposition is to permit individual states and individual people to make their own decisions.
At a time, when COVID panic was at its apex, Trump could have gone full totalitarian dictator, and few would have flinched. But he didn’t… instead he urged calm and told the American people to act prudently, but do not allow fear to overcome us.
All of the issues around vaccines are related to scientific and medical community practices. Neither Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis is a scientist or a doctor, and they can only rely upon the opinions, suggestions and recommendations provided to them by experts in these fields.
It is one thing for you and me to have research-based opinions on vaccines that may or may not align with scientific consensus. It is another kettle-o-fish entirely for Donald Trump to have an opinion, where his public statements are weighted toward national policy for public health.
I specifically remember when President Trump told us from the White House podium that the media-driven hype over the COVID-19 “was a hoax,” and the industrial media complex, along with both sides of the political spectrum and the total scientific medical community, blasted him for downplaying the SARS-CoV-2 risk.
From where I sit, given the scale of what has taken place, President Trump’s current position is stable and non-controversial. Essentially, here’s the vaccine tools they say will help, decide for yourself.
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[¹] It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.
Mine from yesterday evening disappeared, and imo, it was relatively benign, though not complimentary of PDJT regarding the injections. It saddens me to personally experience censorship on a site I’ve followed since the Trayvon days, and as a monthly financial supporter. I don’t know who did the “clean-up” of posts on this thread, but it’s a really bad look.
I’ve been ambivalent about Owens–neither liking or disliking because she has come off to me as rather insincere. I get the feeling she is saying what she is saying for some reason (fame,$,exposure) but doesnt really mean it.
I really think this is insulting, demeaning and inappropriate. He gave her the time and upped her profile considerably with this interview and she stabs him in the back insulting him. That is ingrate level behavior. She is not appreciative or aware enough to understand what he did FOR her. Calling him “old”? Terrible
PDT seems quite aware of what is going on in the world and frequently cites conservative blogs so that doesnt ring of someone “old” who doesnt keep up with what is going on. He “doesnt use a computer”? He uses his PHONE constantly.
This was a very bad move and I think it is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. She should have just kept her mouth shut.
This is a conversation that is going on between many families. we have vaxers and anti vaxers in our immediate family. My Hubby is a Vaxer and I’m anti vaxer. I remind everyone that is not the argument. The argument is the freedom to choose. By my God given rights and the rights delivered to me as an American by our Constitution, the government cannot force medical services on me. Everyone should understand that. I watched a clip some doctor was giving last week when someone yelled out from the audience, ‘have you been vaccinated>?” He answered back to them ‘Do you have an STD?” hahahaha Best retort ever. No one has a right to question your medical history. That’s between you and your doctor.
Everyone reading here should be quite aware the Left/Rino Establishment has developed a sophisticated online presence targeting President Trump on conservative and neutral sites. Sundance and this site are 100% on their radar.
Demoralization, division, concern trolls, bots, neural network AIs, and even a few planted operatives posing as legitimate voices.
The Establishment badly wants to keep Trump from the White House. They would take DeSantis in a heartbeat. Keep these things in mind as you read online comments sowing fear, uncertainty and doubt. They badly want to divide Trump’s voter base.
Everyone on this site should also be aware how damaging the jab has been, which is why there are so many comments that are critical of Trump’s statements.
Suggesting that those who criticize Trump are Establishment monkeys avoids the issue at hand. Damaging and killing people with a so-called vaccine is a little more weighty than a mandate that is being fought already. Plus – addressing all the damage/death would also lend weight to opposing the mandate.
There are two issues, not just one. Addressing vaccine harm also addresses the mandate, while addressing only the mandate ignores the harm.
Why does he routinely avoid saying negative things about the vax and even go beyond that to claim they’re some sort of heroic triumph?
Perhaps someone will ask him that. (…if he actually does an interview with someone who isn’t involved in that same Establishment like Bill O’Reilley, or an opportunist like Candace.)
I suppose we’ll see him on Hannity next.
It is called Mass Psychosis, how dare anyone say anything negative against the God of Trump? It is really quite stunning to see. Some would jump off a cliff if he told them to jump, I find it scary. I voted for him, I have met him, shook his hand, and all the rest, but dear God when he is saying the death jab is a good thing, that is when I have to question his stable genius status.
Couldn’t have said it better. I also was his greatest supporter, but only the mindless will support someone unconditionally. Trump screwed up Covid to an almost incomprehensible degree. He foisted fascism on this country, and now parades around bragging about it. Trump is done. DeSantis 2024.
I agree that the establishment and others want to keep Trump from the White House, although I doubt they want DeSantis. One way to do that might be to make Trump into the fall guy for the jab fiasco that is hanging over our heads. As much as they try, eventually the data will come out. You can’t hide that many people dying or getting injured. Someone will be held accountable. Look at the two impeachments, the flimsy pretexts … when the data cannot be hid anymore, when longterm sideeffects show up, what makes you all think that the democrats and rinos won’t unite and start another impeachment or a hearing before the presidential campaigns start?
It’s amazing. The Jan 6 commission is ongoing, trying to blame Trump by any which means they can, and you all think they won’t try something like this with “vaccine”. Reading many c omments here I feel like sitting in a bus heading for a cliff. Some passengers trying to alert other passengers AND the driver and all you get: you can get out of the bus anytime you want, we continue.
How is it possible that you all claim to be so informed and yet, none of you worry that one day a hearing will be held and the question will be asked, “What did President Trump know and when did he know it?”. Go back memory lane and you will find two impeachments (groundless), you will find the Jan 6 commission (groundless) and you don’t think they will make him face the music when the death counts increase?
But by all means, worry about all these new commenters expressing their concern, dismay. Okay, but this morning I listneed to an episode on the warroom and the point was raised that the BRandon administion might be setting up Trump. And it very much looks like that to me but keep on driving in your bus and kick out passengers warning you about the cliff ahead.
I also don’t believe him when he said he got the shots and the boosters. When he campaigned back in 2016, he was aware of the problems with the regular vaccines (which is why he talked about setting up the vax safety committee). And he said he never got a flu shot (but apparently, he did once he was President).
And I agree–he’s NOT neutral, he’s selling and promoting the vaccines. I find it concerning that Trump is now completely in line with the propaganda we are getting from the MSM about the poison kill shots. He’s gone from openly talking about the problems with regular vaccines and wanting a safety committee to investigate them in 2016, to now promoting an experimental vaccines that has killed more people than all the others combined. Sorry, but IMO, something is very wrong.
I am a supporter of Trump but his ego has again gotten the better of him. He cannot stop talking about his “Project Warp Speed” and to do this requires him to embrace the shots.
Unless and until a better person to rally around appears, I will still support him but this gross error is yet another example of why no patriot of our constitutional system should ever “worship” ANY person, and especially a president.
George Washington showed us how dangerous this can be and we should learn from his example.
Well said.
“The problem is, when any entity takes ownership, they are setting themselves up for accountability and criticism.” Sundance – “Joe Biden Officially Taps Out on COVID Crisis “There is No Federal Solution””
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/27/joe-biden-officially-taps-out-on-covid-crisis-there-is-no-federal-solution/#more-223638
They will do anything they can, say anything they can, to keep him from running again. We all know this. Factor it into EVERY story involving Trump that you hear, and think twice before reacting.