President Trump gave an interview to Candace Owens for The Daily Wire. The full interview is only available for subscribers [link]; however, there is a segment released by Mrs. Owens where Donald Trump talks about the specifics of his position on the vaccine and the mandates.
President Trump supports the three vaccines that were developed during his administration, and is proud of the system he put into place to develop them and get them available to the public. However, President Trump does not support mandating the vaccine or forced vaccination for anyone, and believes that people should have the freedom to decide what is in their individual best interests. WATCH:
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At approximately 05:10 of the interview, President Trump notes the specific issue of a government mandated vaccine developed by a private corporation, and the risk of corruption and conflicted interests involved. President Trump accepts that reasonable people would be skeptical of the vaccine itself and would have personal reasons not to participate.
Toward the very end of the interview Trump states he is proud of the accomplishment and will not “give up” on his belief of the vaccine development as a success during his administration. However, he sees the forced mandate as very detrimental to the economy and views the consequences of the mandate itself as a problem for national security.
Given the range of opinions on the issue of the vaccines overall, and the mandate specifically, President Trump’s position seems quite pragmatic and reasonable. He’s proud to have developed the vaccines, believes they are of benefit, but strongly respects individual choice, liberty and the freedom to decide for yourself and your family. I don’t see anything controversial in this position.
Thanks for the update. I have no plans of getting the jab. Vaccines normally take 5 to 15 years of data before they are approved and for good reason. Do you know what’s going on in Israel with Covid cases. 85% vaccinated and they have about 800 news cases daily per million people . Costa Rica has over 500 new daily per million and send new cases home to quarantine with only acetaminophen because there is no treatment protocol that the WHO recommends after 1 1/2 years. India new Delta cases were skyrocketing last April until they started prevention and treatment protocols using Zinc, Vitamin D3, Vitamin C and Ivermectin. Their new cases fell 95% in five weeks with only 5% of the population having been vaccinated. India now has about 20 new daily cases per million. I heard that to prevent infection, Indians are taking 12mg Ivermectin every Sunday.
This is the basic protocol:
500mg Vitamin C twice daily
2,000 to 2,500 ui Vitamin D once daily
60mg Zinc daily
12mg Ivermectin daily until symptoms drop significantly (usually within 48 hours)
For strong cases, increase Ivermectin to 24mg daily.
I had my Doctor prescribe me some Amoxicillin (antibiotic) to have ready also.
Ivermectin dose should be prescribed individually because dose is based on weight. Severe GI symptoms if you take too high of a dose complicating illness.
Nah. Based on weight, yes, but…Err on the high side. You’d have to be a moron and take enough for a 2000lb horse to have gi problems.
Not true.
You are correct! Now that you mention it, I did get a little bit of discomfort in my track/gut and I wasn’t sure if I was constipated. I weigh 170 lbs and took 15 mg per day for 5 days. Covid was not that bad but lasted for 7 days. The cough, is still lingering and it’s been 4 weeks. Hope not too much info:)
Yep that cough does go on! I started symptoms Dec 5 and I still have the cough. But hey it’s cold and flu season. 😆
So…how do you know ivermectin did any good?
Well, I recovered better than many people that I know who got it, I was back to work in 8 days and I didn’t end up in the hospital. I’m just glad that I had it and have the immunity. My wife and 2 boys had it. The kids took lower dose of Ivermectin and my wife took hydroxychloroquine. They all recovered more quickly.
I am not a medical doctor.
I have read 0.2 mg Ivermectin/ kg of body weight.
At 150 lbs this equates to approximately 12 mg Ivermectin.
That dose is correct. It makes 10 mg for 110 lbs or 50 kg. The same as the cow or pig dose.
I agree. It’s about .09 mg per lb. I’m about 200 lbs and they prescribed me 18 mg, agreeing with your calculation.
That dose was correct for the original Alpha.
Delta has been requiring .4-.6mg/kg. I am now on .6 mg/kg as the .4mg wasn’t cutting it for me. PLUS I had Regeneron last friday and today, Eli Lilly’s antibodies. I tell you, this should have been gone days ago for me but it wasn’t.
Young people could probably get by with the .2mg/kg for Delta.
I don’t know what the requirements would be for this new Omricon.
NyQuil which gives a good night’s sleep.
My husband and I were treated with ivermectin and the z-pack which cured us.
India has homeopathic medicine intrinsically connected to their healthcare. The British brought this into their country and as a result they have many superb homeopaths. India”s health minister publicly praised the effectiveness of homeopathic treatment for covid. Read their newspapers
Complete protocol for any stage. The dosage chart is on page 3.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
And the Democrats and their media acolytes say Trump is the authoritarian. They are low-IQ individuals making up a low-IQ collective.
Meh … “President Trump still lives rent-free in their heads, one way or the other.” 🤷♂️ So what? “Do not let the enemy set the terms of engagement!”
Jim Jones got 900+ to drink his Kool-Aid. How many has quack Lysenko Fauci got to take his Kool-Aid vaxxes?
I remember that guy.
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Namaste friend!
That looks like the AR12. A great piece of hardware. Love mine. 12ga semi on the AR platform. The only downside is the 10 round clip is a killer on the shooting side shoulder.
Thats not true some drank the kool-aid the rest where shot. Maybe thats about whats to happen again.
Lol. That’s me too.
Many.
We have no idea what this will do to the dear kids. I could care less about the adults who take a chance.
I wish he would speak up for the kids that are having their parents inject them with this poison.
They have no voice. It is wrong Trump. So wrong to do this to these kids.
DD
Trump is not their parents…do you really think these leftists care what Trump thinks?
Do your own research, ……….but he has consistently been against vacs for the kids.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
Oh! I saw a beautifully printed “Let’s go Brandon!” sweatshirt coming toward me in an Oregon store this afternoon! When we had closed to within about 10 feet, I smiled and said loudly, with a thumbs-up, “I LIKE your shirt!!” Got a great smile in return.
Exactly
I agree.
But I have yet to see PDJT promote the vaccine to anyone younger than 50
This question seems relevant – it is either true (so the vaccine has some use) or it it not true ( the vaccine is pointless and eadly)
—> “does the vaccine help boost elderly people’s immune system for a short period of time (3 months) during heightened circulation of the virus (winter months)?”
No. It makes them vulnerable to side effects. It is not good for anyone.
Doesn’t work on variants.
He has already spoken up re. kids.
He said a month or two ago that he did not think kids should get it.
If you’re not listening to all the interviews he’s done, then don’t assume you know what he’s said or hasn’t said.
Maybe just ask the question: “Has he spoken up about kids?”
And the answer is “YES. He has.”
I think kids were mentioned in this interview too but it went by quickly.
He believes in the vaxx. He doesn’t believe anyone is taking a chance.
As Racer correctly states above, 5-15 years of study needed to safely bring a vax to market. With a swipe of a pen, we are all at risk. Mandates are an entirely different subject and they need to be separated for any reasonable and intelligent conversation.
Is it now accepted that big pharma makes billions by bringing drugs, vaxxes to market that have no safety studies, no informed consent given to patients, cause harm and even death, and it’s all perfectly ok as long as it’s not mandated? Does that not sound insane? Is this how we want to go forward with medicine in the US?
We can pedal poison and it’s ok as long as it isn’t mandated. Good luck
I thought it was a foregone conclusion that this whole pandemic was a scam used to seize control of the country through fear and intimidation.
And now we discussing all this as though the pandemic were legitimate.
The virus is killing all the weak and vulnerable like flu always does.
The so called vaccine and boosters are what’s causing the all the maiming and deaths of the otherwise healthy
Is it possible for people to consistently stay on track without getting sidetracked by every little thing.
There is no plague only the fear of one.
What we do have is an experimental injection created in a lab by monsters like Fauci.
No I’m not gonna take it and yes I seriously distrust anyone advocating the shot.
Including Trump
And yes he did advocate for the shot I heard him
also touting it saved “millions and millions of life’s” there’s enough in that statement to tell me he’s delusional about Warp Speed.
President Trump believes in the Right to Try any experimental medication.
His beliefs on that, even his act, are not being upheld in our medical community.
When and where did he state that kids have to get the injection?
He didn’t
He said nobody has to get an injection.
That includes kids too.
I’m afraid that if you allow your child to be injected on the basis of personal endorsement rather than sound research and analysis, the problem is NOT DJT, it is YOU.
I don’t support the vaccines nor the mandates. But I certainly support President Trump’s right to have the opinion that he supports the vaccines. That is what this is all about —- freedom to choose in our own lives what is best for us. Those who support mandates or compulsory vaccinations can kiss my a$$.
Trump can support whatever he likes.
I will never support a vax or new medication that has not complied with safety standards for use in humans.
Makes him appear irresponsibly uninformed and callously uncaring about the terrible side effects from a vaccine against a virus that is survived by 99.5% of those who have been infected. Based upon an anecdotal report from a man who works with 20 others, all jabbed, two have died. That’s a 10% death rate from the jab. They died of clot related illnesses. The formation of clots is a known side effect of the mRNA jabs. Trump should know this and he should care. Everything he’s saying about the jabs is just more propaganda. Makes him appear untrustworthy.
So.don’t.get.the.jab.
Doesn’t answer the devastation of the clot shot on others. Guess you just don’t care.
That’s an unfair assumption. If you are not doing and acting on YOUR OWN due diligence, the foolishness of assuming that people will react as Pavlov’s dogs at Trump’s—or anyone’s—command, can not be overstated. Sounding bitter because she is not reciting the exact script that you believe he should, is counterproductive to anything.
He’s not just anybody, he is the former President of the US and spearheaded Operation Warp Speed. He should at least care enough to know if the “vaccines” are effective and safe. Or is that just too high of a standard for DJT.
So many people just don’t know how to think.
This is the full interview here; I posted it on the Presidential thread earlier..I can’t remember where I found it; the full interview is really good and Candace does a good job interviewing him:
Thank you !!!!!
Video removed. lol.
They can’t get away now, we’re surrounded! – C Puller.
Try Rumble. They don’t censor.
https://rumble.com/vr9881-donald-trump-full-interview-with-candace-owens-december-2021.html
Thank you, it was working when I posted the above but this rumble link works!
TY!
I’m concerned that Trump chose to mention how much better the Chinese system of education ranks over ours.
He should have really hit hard on terrible it is for anyone to mask children when kids don’t get the ‘rona bad and left it at that and pointed out that there is no reason to protect grandma from unmasked kids since grandma can get the wondrous vax.
He at least spoke about how the economy is suffering because people are being mandated out of jobs.
I wish Candace had hit on the health care workers who are so concerned about the vax that they are being mandated out of jobs and the shortages this is causing.
I thought it was interesting that he extolled natural immunity so much. But Candace didn’t hit on why he got the vax if he had the ‘rona.
But then the clip was only 6 minutes out of some larger amounts of minutes, so I stipulate that perhaps these issues were touched on more.
Someone who saw it all will have to weigh in because I am going to go listen to the newest from Uncle Clif.
clip I posted above is 27 minutes long..full interview.
his AGE.
“does the vaccine help boost elderly people’s immune system for a short period of time (3 months) during heightened circulation of the virus (winter months)”
Really? Natural immunity is superior to taking a shot. Isreal has come to this conclusion bigly.
Only for the original variant. Doesn’t protect against other variants which is why it isn’t working.
There is NO test for varients! It’s all a scam. I saw the link @ GAB on a different computer and I’ll post it when I find it.
Yup, a total scam!! Total BS, they are just making this stuff up. Dr. David Martin has repeatedly talked about the scam of the variants. It’s just more fear porn to keep the psyop going. World Bank documents indicate that the banking cartel plans on continuing to run this psyop until March 2025–I guess by then, they will have their Great Reset/NWO/global coup in place.
I haven’t listened to the full interview yet.
But>>> I am Really . Glad. that *somebody* has finally brought up the FACT that the Chinese are leaving us in the dust when it comes to education.
It’s been going on for decades now and is going to be our Achilles Heal.
Thanks, Trump!
Our education system needs a complete overhaul. That being said, can the Chinese be trusted regarding the veracity of test scores? Too many anecdotes and reports I’ve heard seem like having the ‘right’ answer is more important than how it’s obtained. Writ large this makes me question their scores and many other ‘achievements,’ e.g. hypersonic tech.
I too was interested and encouraged by his support for natural immunity.
Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough both have suggested that Omicron may give natural immunity to most of the world before it’s done.
Natural immunity may just make the jabs so obviously obsolete that the enemy will have to stop pretending. Naturally!
Maybe the Chinese focus on reading, writing, and arithmetic instead of critical race theory and transgender agendas. They would have that over us. And they don’t fatten their kids up with high fructose corn syrup school lunches. That, too.
If you’re talking about Clif High, he details why PDJT is apparently supporting the vaxx in the latter 30 minutes of the video.
Slide up to about 30:45 and start there (or watch from the beginning like I did – very informative about the coming currency changes)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WVUaNNbB02yA/
I just listened to this. Trump is always testing words/phrases to see whar sticks. So many of his offhand/throw away comments were nuggets of info. The guy in this video does a nice job of explaining Trump’s linguistic style (esp vaxx) and how Trump can move the ball down the field. Thanks!
Yes. What he said makes sense. I knew something was “off” with Trumps overt support of the vaxx. It’s already been established and proven that he’s usually way ahead of the bulk of the media and most citizens in his strategizing and awareness. So unqualified vaxx support didn’t “fit”. Clifs explanation made perfect sense and brought me up to speed.
I’m actually kind of embarrassed that I didn’t pick up on this sooner. Better late than never I guess.
This seems like a looooooong stretch to me. Q revisited.
He saved 468 million people because the evil plan was lockdown until 2030? Really?
It’s true that many ‘conspiracy theories’ are now fact, but there ARE still crazy conspiracy theories out there – this seems like a good candidate for one of those.
Consider this…..or don’t. I try to find all the info that I can find and then decide what might be corroborated versus what appears to be fabrication. When the Big corporate (deep state) media goes all out to smear a story then I know it’s more than likely true.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-23-the-depopulation-smoking-gun.html
And the background to that story is this:
https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-shocking-2025-deagel-forecast/
Their evil plan was to roll out the poison kill shots and medical tyranny. The virus psyop was the pretext for doing this. Vaccines are a central component of their Great Reset–they will never go away.
I always listen to these Bitchute videos from Clif. Been following him for over a decade and have exchanged a few emails with him.
His explanation of Trump’s vax position is most interesting. Clif may be on to something. His ALTA research is not always correct, timewise. But many of his “predictions” come to pass eventually.
Yes. I agree. From what I have observed, Clif almost always prefaces his time predictions with what I would describe as precautionary mentions about degree of exactness or accuracy. I noticed long go that he uses “about”, “possibly”, “around” when he’s trying to forecast near-term events / changes. That’s obviously because he’s interpreting data queried from his very large and always growing linguistic database.
No! No! No!
Donald Trump must agree with me on everything or else I can not support him!
I am perfect in every way on everything always, so he must be too.
No one expects Trump to agree with them on EVERYTHING. But the vaccine is not just some small disagreement. That’s a major disagreement. I can’t respect someone who can see the data, read the reports by experts, hear the individual stories and still think the vaccine is a good thing. That’s inexcusable. I voted twice for him, but I can’t vote again for someone that foolish if he decides to run again. Not with what I know and what he should know, considering how much information has been put out there on this killer “vaccine.”
I won’t stop voting for him, but I majorly disagree with him and agree with the other points you made.
There is no one else, just remember that, and not voting is voting for the enemy.
How are you feeling????
Oh, thanks, oldschool!
Somewhat better. A BIG shoutout to Littlekittyquilter and Dutchman on the hydrotherapy!
That stopped some kind of body attack and re-regulated my system. I slept well finally. I’m still ill but apparently that action helped. I’m doing it again tonight.
I’m worried about my lungs. Coughing up yellowed dirty phlegm and lungs kind of hurt. I don’t have a cough, just trying to clear out what’s there. O2 Sats 98-99%.
Got my second round of monoclonal antibodies today, the Eli Lilly. I’m on day 9 so we’ll see.
I’m very concerned about eradicating this from my house. My oldest son has lost his taste again and is stuffy nose, younger son also has a loss of taste, husband has a cough again here and there. Back on the IVM until this clears but it almost makes me think if this crap is going to be latent in our system for a very long time and/or constantly getting reinfected and not very strong immunity against it.
I still haven’t gotten a chest x ray do you think I should go into ER to get one? I don’t want to be admitted, but shouldn’t if my sats are ok. But should I check for pneumonia?
Wow! You “sound” better. Usually xrays won’t be ordered by doc unless you are short of breath, febrile, have back pain or low sats. That being said, if it makes you feel comfortable, speak to your doc.
I doubt it’s hanging in your house because it needs a host, but it can take a long time before your body rids itself and all healing is complete. My 11 y.o. grandaughter had a mild case as far as only one day of mild fever, scratchy throat and fatigue, BUT she lost her smell and taste and was hacking for a month. She remained fatigued during that time. She was separated from her brother for only 10 days. So even though she was coughing all over him, and us, apparently she was no longer contagious. It takes time and everyone’s case is so different.
It really sounds like you are doing the right things and are trending in the right directions. Prayers for you and your family.❤
Thank you, I was thinking that my viral load is high again and I was reinfecting everyone.
At any rate, we all got our IVM tonight.
We got more horsepaste in Amish country today, the guy next to me getting infused is totally in the know of everything we talk about here. He told me this place to get it and the guy there said it is getting harder to get. Now I know where to go if desperate. But we were also looking for that sterile solution 1% for injectable for possible topical like this one protocol I saw.
Tell me what you think about this, I was thinking maybe for prophylactic. I’m going to go prophylactic if I can eradicate this.
https://terryheroldt.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/terry-herholdt-protcol-covid911.pdf
By the way, the IVM got rid of my son’s eczema on his elbow and knee. It really is a miracle drug. Maybe it will heal my ulcers and liver! We’ll see. Dr. W kind of said so on the liver.
I can’t say enough about this hot bath, but I could only tolerate it for about 12 minutes max but it still did something for my system. Husband helped with cold compresses on my neck and forehead. My body was so under attack yesterday, I thought all energy was draining, I couldn’t rest, so uncomfortable. But I never had a fever and there is something wrong about that, not having one and feeling like I did. So, like that MedCram doctor said, the Covid messes with interferon, we need to induce our own fever or something. But it worked for me and really had settled my body down.
https://www.hydro4covid.com/
I will check out those links in the morning. I chuckled when I read about your son’s excema. You are describing symptoms I have heard from others. It’s a virus unlike any before. “body feels weird”. Really points to an “unnatural virus” doesn’t it? Give it some time. I know you are on day 9, but you are only on day 2 of your new regimen and feeling improvement. Until tomorrow. . .
Thanks, oldschool, have a good night! Actually, I think the ivermectin cleared the eczema all up, not Covid.
Yes I knew you meant IVM and I think that makes a point, we do not know how things are going to affect us. We can read until the cows come home, that just makes us good readers.
I read the hydrotherapy and I think that for me it boils down to different people have different opinions and different approaches. I don’t like extremes and I don’t like stressing out the body, especially when the body is being taxed with an illness, meds and healing. Because our body is nothing short of a miracle, we don’t understand the complexity of the body at work, nor are we even aware of it. So often I have had to convince patients to take pain medication, or anti anxiety agents, or to simply rest because their body was ill or in recovery mode. When a body is in distress (pain, emotional, etc.) the body responds and most times we don’t even realize it. There is only so much a body can do. If you are post surgery, needing to heal, refuse pain meds, not sleeping, your body is being taxed to the max. Something has to give.
One example that we are all familiar with is being tired after a meal. We have all felt it and cultures have incorporated it into their daily lives with siestas. After eating, our blood supply shunts more to the GI tract to work on digestion. That is it’s number one priority at that time. Due to more blood in GI, there is less in the brain. Less in the brain causes fatigue. It is no different when you are stressing your body with too many chores.
So bottom line on this therapy FOR ME is that I am not a fan unless there is some extreme fever that is causing some seizure abnormality, cannot be brought under control with analgesics (of course that would be an ice bath). Unless you have issues with hormone regulation, pancreas, hypothalmus, your body know when to turn up the thermostat. Please understand this is my opinion. I have never been a fan of those who go from sauna to cold pool. I find no need to shock the body in that manner. Steam baths/showers for coughs and congestion are more of a “targeted” approach proven to have some therapeutic effect.
I encourage you to follow the regimen your doctor has given you without adding anything more. So far, you are trending in the right direction. IMO any additions outside his advice could cause harm. You have been dealing with this long enough, if you trust this doc, follow his advice as long as you are doing well. Try not to treat the “fear” of something, only treat what is actually happening. Not sure my approach works for you and I understand and respect where you are coming from. I will get to that pamphlet on IVM, hopefully this morning. In the meantime, you keep on keeping on, rest and be well!
Thanks, Oldschool, I think the reason why it worked is that this virus is not like any other, I had come across this video before that explains how this virus messes with our typical immune response and why the hydro therapy was suggested here because of it. at any rate, my body was in a terrible fix, and this fixed it, it was actually pretty damn scary until then and I did it out of desperation because nothing else was working. It turned out to be more than a pleasant surprise.
Thank you for your thoughts!
I told my husband if we ever do get a new house, we ought to rethink the installation of a whirlpool bathtub. I always thought they went unused, at least for us, but it would probably be a good therapeutic as we get older.
I guess I’ve underestimated a nice hot bath!
Epsom salt baths are wonderful. I am bedside with my mom. I just put her on hospice care, so I will keep you in my prayers and catch up when I can. Keep getting better!
Oh, I am so sorry, oldschool, I don’t know if I missed that somewhere about your mom!
All my prayers to you and your mom, I’ve been through it twice, it is not easy, but God bless you and keep you both!
Thank you Kaco
Thank you for your calm common sense.
I can’t take much credit, my parents and grandparents were practical, but thank you for the kind words.
If you feel “off” for any reason, and the family is having symptoms, a basic check-up is smart. It’s also flu season after all, even if nobody’s talking about THAT virus.
A 2-view CXR is just as good and diagnostically useful if performed at an Urgent Care, and costs about 1/10th of what they charge for it in a hospital ER. You can pay cash and get one for less than $100. See, hospitals get to charge a “facility fee” tacked on to any procedure or treatment, because they accept all patients. That’s why you constantly hear tales of getting charged $1500.00 for a Tylenol prescription etc.
If your O2 saturation is above 95% there’s no urgency, but a CXR even for a feeling of “tightness” can be worthwhile as a “rule out” (differential diagnosis). Covid pneumonias don’t look like any other kind. Even a lowly tech like me can see the difference immediately.
Yup. And from what I’m seeing, reading, and hearing about from friends around the country, it looks like it’s going to be a rough flu season. Unfortunately.
Thank you, the chest is tight, or rather lungs kind of have that pleuritic pain per se. It’s probably mainly bronchiole since I went into this with non-Covid bronchitis!
I know the University Hospitals Urgent Care in the same building with radiology and labs won’t order it! They say they’re only an Urgent Care, have to go to ER. There is a stand alone ‘ER in the next town over that I’ve been to for the bronchitis.
Yes, please check for pneumonia.
When I got my monoclonal infusion they did a chest xray and said I did have beginning signs of the covid viral pneumonia. But the monoclonal appears to gotten me around the corner on it. Except for the lingering cough I’m doing much better 3 weeks after onset.
My O2 sat had fallen to averaging 94 and even hit 91 once before I got to the facility for the monoclonal. 98% is pretty good, from what I hear.
Glad you’re on the mend!
The doctor put me on Azithromycin for 30 days. I hope it would cover it if I did get pneumonia plus I’m on the triple dose of IVM for 7 more days. He sent it to a compounding pharmacy.
He also put me on a low dose Prednisone 10 mg for 7 days but I didn’t want to start it today so I’ve nebulized budesonide once today. I didn’t want to suppress any antibody action today and the budesonide is less systemic.
I sure hope this clears up, I am so glad the body attack had stopped and I hope it stays that way. Nasty reproducer.
Thanks for the concern and encouragement!
Have you seen this – for post Covid infection or vaccine remedy?
https://truthbasedmedia.com/2021/12/22/world-council-for-health-reveals-spike-protein-detox/
Thank you, I will have to check the other things but I actually have dandelion leaf, in a capsule, though. I got it for my fatty liver disease. I haven’t taken it yet.
I’m also taking NAC, and before I take the IVM in case. I also read somewhere NAC and Vitamin C can be pro-oxident so I take NAC before that, too.
Anyway, I will look over all these herbs tomorrow, thank you!
I recently read smelling vinegar 15-20 times a day can bring back sense of taste and smell.
Raheem Kassam devoted an entire podcast to his quest to get his taste back. He basically tried a lot of different things, mostly intense spicy flavors. It was interesting.
I was very lucky on taste – got it back same day I lost it – but for a week or so everything tasted terrible and I had no appetite. That’s all better now 3 weeks out. Smell is about half back – easy to smell strong stuff but anything subtle, not so much…
Losing taste was very strange – I ate a clementine when I woke up and realized I couldn’t taste orange flavor – it was like eating cold solid chewy water. When taste came back that evening, the first was salt – and everything salty was way too salty!
I’ve read that being contagious is over at about 10 days and when symptoms are over. My cough is not over but the rest is. I don’t think I can still be contagious – anyone know the average day count on that?
From what I’ve read, the first week for sure people are contagious. After the first seven days the level of contagion starts to wane and in most cases is gone after 15 days (with some rare exceptions, of course, though mostly among people who got really sick and had to be hospitalized). I don’t think having symptoms is correlated with being contagious. It’s more about time.
That’s good to know, Sarah, I’m supposed to be getting a procedure done next Wednesday to take care of an issue I had last summer once and for all. I didn’t want it scheduled this far out at the end of the year, but here we are with Covid and all. I am out of “quarantine” this Saturday.
I still have this mucus issue, nasal and chest, it flares up occasionally during the day. A lot of nasal again today with post nasal drip. I don’t have a cough per se, but trying to get it out of my chest. At least I can cough, when I had the bronchiole wheeze three weeks ago, it was non=productive, I couldn’t move anything.
I have my husband cupping his hands and pounding on my back at least once a day.
I’m also nebulizing 2 drops of hydrogen peroxide in 5 ml normal saline sterile solution for inhalation. So, I don’t know if this is really bad for my lungs or what, but today I actually read in the local paper a column where this woman talked about how they nebulized hydrogen peroxide. Now, I know some are nebulizing straight 3% like Dr. Levy, and not food grade, he says just use the regular stuff. So, I think I’m being conservative. Some Dr. Brownstein says one drop in 3 ml, he also puts the Lugol’s 5% iodine in it but I am not that daring. I also was looking up local Vitamin C infusions and this one place also has hydrogen peroxide IV! Now, I don’t think I will have to resort to that.
I do have a bottle of Lugol’s 2% iodine and don’t know what to do with it. I think some people ingest a drop or so, they say the thyroid loves it and helps with immunity. I don’t know but they do iodize salt because we are very lacking in iodine in our diets. I’m just hesitant trying new things. I didn’t start the hydrogen peroxide nebulizer right away either.
Thanks for sharing some updates. You sound like you have more energy, more brightness, and feeling perhaps a bit more hopeful and encouraged. And, again, so glad you had the MD consult yesterday and a good clear guide to follow for treatment that eliminated non-essential things and got you focused on core treatments to get you through this and back to good health. I hope you’re getting good sleep. Wishing you a Merry Christmas, cozy at home, knowing your under the care of a good doc (and I think you said you have a f/u appt soon). Praying for you, Kaco.
A little Lugol’s can go a long way to helping you feel better right away.
Doing that will help kill any viruses, bacteria, bad stuff swimming around in those areas, and some of the Lugol’s in your nose will most likely make it back into your nasal passage when tilting your head back to gargle.
Hope and pray you are 100% soon!
Gabytango said it was all over Reddit that high doses of Vitamin C and glasses of OJ twice a day brought people’s smell and taste back after months of not having it. She didn’t say how much but I gave it to my son a few days ago and it brought it back right away.
We can try the vinegar, too, thank you.
He was already on Vitamin C but I gave him extra via sodium ascorbate powder.
That’s good to know! I’ll share that 👍
Loss of taste or smell = Arsenicum Album 30c. whole foods or other vitamin shops that carry homeopathic medicine.
Kaco, if you are using povidone iodine in any manner, stop at least for a while to see if the yellow color goes away.
Lots of people aspirate tiny amounts of their own mucus and sputum. Povidone iodine is not a normal constituent and it stains almost everything it encounters. If you are doing nasal irrigations or gargles, you may have a bit of residual Betadine going where you don’t want it.
Thanks, Sherri, I have been doing the betadine gargle, the commercial preparation. That’s a good thought, I didn’t think it would get into the lungs.
So, you will be voting for Biden……given he is still in good health in 2024? /s
I would vote for him over a Democrat just because he wouldn’t mandate, but he doesn’t get my primary vote if there is a better choice.
I like “Mean Tweets 2024” .
Who do you think is better?
This isn’t a capital gains rate this is a poison being used to introduce a social credit system, neo serfdom, and one world government.
Those of us who take that seriously have the right to our opinions just as he has the right to his opinions.
It looks like it and I can see that people – such as myself – appear like trolls or nevertrumpers. If you live in a country where forced vaccination may be reality within a few months this issue is a hot button. If the mandates come, I won’t pay the fine and face imprisonment. The vaxx has become the tool to control people and it is grating to hear anyone boasting about the vaccine.
I found this quote from the Owens interview very troubling
“Yet more people have died under COVID this year,” Owens told Trump. “By the way, under Joe Biden, than under you and more people took the vaccine this year. So people are questioning how—”
“Oh no, the vaccines work, but some people aren’t the ones. The ones who get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don’t take the vaccine. But it’s still their choice. And if you take the vaccine, you’re protected,” Trump told Owens.
See, that is simply not true. Two governors in Germany made the same claim but it was found out that they lied.
If he wants to run again, I wish him all the best and success but on a personal level, he is just like many other politicians, lying to get something across.
So you don’t care that he’s stating the opposite of truth? He’s saying these things as the former President of the US. So you don’t mind being lied to by your leaders? Just remember the “vaccines” are neither effective nor safe.
This is beyond my pay grade.
As a Canadian I proudly proclaim to fellow Canadians that dislike or despise President Trump, that not only do I support him, but we attended to of his Rallies in Washington State.
Not only that but we stood among Antifa scum for ten or so minutes at the Lynden Washington Rally just to experience their hatred and venom.
Is it possible that PDJT is being political here, as he cannot disparage the gene therapy, as he did so much to produce it.
Which at the time appeared prudent.
Even he could not have believed the corruption of Big Pharma, his own Government agencies, and advisors.
Never mind the fear of this “flu /cold bug”
It really is a mess..
Cheers to all, and God bless PDJT.
I have never taken medical advice from politicians/elected officials (including POTUS Trump) and I’m not going to start now, so it doesn’t matter to me what he says or doesn’t say about it, or what he’s asked or not asked.
best post on this thread!
my feelings exaclty too.
by the way… FJB
Remember when in the beginning of the mentally ill Balsey Ford accusations, he chose to respect and believe her? Rush Limbaugh called it “pacing”.
A Refresher Course on Trump’s Pacing (Rush Limbaugh)
https://news.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2018-12-10-rush-limbaugh-blog-a-refresher-course-on-trumps-pacing/
Thank you for the link. I didn’t have Rush’s pacing description on the tip of my tongue. I totally think this is what’s going on – just my opinion. Keep your post/link handy-it could be helpful for others
Thank you!
Salutations to you both!
Interesting. He also could be guessing/betting that the jab craze will fizzle naturally at some point. It really is a kind of giant psyops balloon that they keep blowing up bigger and bigger – just begging to be popped.
The Moronic Scariant could cause that if it increases natural immunity sufficiently.
Dekester. How is life on the west coast? Doug Ford just continues to get more and more annoying!
I know someone who makes calls for Ontario to Covid cases. All of them are vaxed. Triple vaxed are getting Covid!!!
Seems strange that Ford continues to push on with a concept that has not worked, and will not work.
The vaccine simply is not effective. Anyone in Ontario can tell you that. Ontario is nearly 90% vaxed and we had the record for cases today since it all began two years ago.
So disturbing!
DD
The Vaxxes are like the Kool-Aid of Jim Jones
Waterford City, Ireland: 99.7% Fully Vaccinated – Highest Rate of New COVID Cases in the Country
https://granitegrok.com/blog/2021/10/waterford-city-ireland-99-7-fully-vaccinated-highest-rate-of-new-covid-cases-in-the-country
Are they sure it’s COVID and not vax reactions?
Personally we are doing well. As we have always been anti authoritarian and despise government.
Herr Henry our medical dictator issued new edicts yesterday. Anger is simmering even among the sheep.
I was at the local aquatic centre today for the morning swim, as a pools are still open. ( not gyms 😟)
Well as I went to enter with my pool pass, a lady said excuse me you now need to show your vaxx card and photo I.D.
She had a clipboard out and was writing down information. Who is she, what right does she have to anyone’s medical information.
She could do great harm to an individual.
I walked passed her and cancelled my pass.
We are now a tyranny masquerading as a democracy.
We have ex Premier Brian Peckford of Newfoundland trashing our B.C. government. He is supporting our elder sons workplace in a mandate standoff with their employer.
As you will know he is the last living First Minister that signed our Canadian Constitution into law.
If you have not done so, check out his blog.
Cheers! and we will win this.
Okay with everything you say SD except you leave out the part where he says if you take the vaccine ‘they work’. He needed to button up this rhetoric. “There is science supporting at risk older people are less sick but there is some science that shows it’s not a very long protection.” would be better.
His Age?
“does the vaccine help boost elderly people’s immune system for a short period of time (3 months) during heightened circulation of the virus (winter months)?”
Agree, Copper Top.
The VAERS science (data) confirms that the assorted Covid Vax options do not work for all; in fact, some Covid VAX brands cause injuries or worse. Finally, the purpose of vaccines: “to prevent disease” needs to be understood and communicated with precision.
None (MrNA or J&J) of the VAX options prevent disease and the MrNAs are truly gene therapy injections only.
In fact if you go to the CDC website, the “gubmint” says with clarity that these are not FDA approved vaccines; they are still designated as EAU (emergency auth use) protocol.
Regarding the statement that the VAX options offer “alleged” temporary protection; well, according to the Media, you get “less sick” if you have been VAXED.
Really? Can anyone show us THAT data please?
Merry Christmas, Treepers!!!
“Regarding the statement that the VAX options offer “alleged” temporary protection; well, according to the Media, you get “less sick” if you have been VAXED.
Really? Can anyone show us THAT data please?”
They can’t, because the data does not exist. Like most other assertions over the past two years, they make things up because it sounds good.
Dr. Mobeen Syed and Dr. John Campbell (doctorate in nursing) both go over recent scientific publications on their YouTube channels. Everyday, Dr. John Campbell presents fresh data sets. Yes, most of the data they present does seem consistent with the assertion that the vaxxed suffer less severe episodes of COVID.
IMO, some of the data are confounded. For example, last night a fellow Treeper linked to his/her county in New York’s coronavirus info page. If you read the explanatory notes, you found that only the “fully vaccinated” were considered vaxxed. Anybody else was deemed “unvaccinated”. However, to be fully vaccinated, a person had to bave received both (or more) doses of the vaxx at that county’s hospital system or aligned clinics. Vaxxed at Walgreens in the next county was unvaxxed.
J&J was granted an EUA specifically because even though their clinical trial did not show prevention of infection, it did show significantly improved survival. J&J conducted their trial in South Africa. Their trial period coincided with the run of the beta variant in that country.
Not good enough. I’ll take horse paste but not any of these jabs.
Agree there is a lot of confounding information out there, including what even passes for information. And also agree that there does appear to be solid evidence that if a person is vaxxed and gets covid, they’re at much less risk of developing severe disease.
When people talk about the percentage of vaccinated people in the hospital with covid in various countries, what is often left out is that it’s not the percentage of hospitalized patients who are vaccinated, it’s the percentage of the vaccinated who wind up hospitalized vs the percentage of unvaccinated who wind up hospitalized. And from what I’m reading and as you note, pretty consistently around the world, those who got vaxxed have pretty good protection against severe disease. And that’s no small thing in my view.
If we accept the premise
“if a person is vaxxed and gets covid, they’re at much less risk of developing severe disease”
how does that compute with people dropping dead, heart damage, stroke, etc? AND if the gvt didn’t forbid proven alternative treatment would this be a problem at all?
…”Okay with everything you say SD except”…
I’ll admit I did not know I needed to get your approval. Duly noted ideological tell.
I may approve of a vaccine, but I don’t take them. No vaccine should be approved if they can’t keep from killing the test mammals during trials. This entire ordeal is just evil.
Real Vaccines don’t need boosters. The word vaccine is misleading now. It is a therapeutic. To fight the left, you cannot let them control the language or the video. Honesty is the best policy. you will win over more people if you don’t try to confirm your own bias.
The vaccine is a failure, proven and fact. It kills and maims, fact. Faux Chi is a criminal and should be fired and placed in the dock.
Cincinnatus, get the job done and go home.
This morning Naomi Wolf gave a stark warning of what is coming. Biden has called in Troops on US soil to assist. That is illegal, crickets, so instead of “health workers” next it will be troops. They must stop going to the polls and use mail in voting.
Truth is the truth, his daughter is involved with Pharma and on boards that hugely profit from all this. Truth be told there is no other choice, at least not now. Trump will or will not choose to accept. It is his. All the health care workers, and many who know the facts of this vaccine up down and sideways do not understand where he is getting his facts, that are at best very ignorant.
imo of course and many others
Everyone needs to listen to the full interview. The vaccine does not keep you from getting covid
the hospitals are not full of the unvaccinated.
And the vaccine has killed people and has multiple adverse effects for many people. Thus I know personally too
like I stated before I pray that President Trump will seek wisdom and gain knowledge of what many of us see and hear every day about this shot
Facts matter. Facts and truth. Your comment is appreciated.
These mRNA vaccines have killed more people than all, ALL vaccines together ever. All animals were killed during first trials.
And we are not stopping administering it, even better we are pushing it for babies and kids….
The CDC had to change the definition of vaccine, twice, to accommodate the clot shot. The definition now is so watered down that it includes anything taken to lessen the impact of a disease. Now even, aspirin, vitamins and zinc could be construed to be a vaccine.
The correct term for the potion they are injecting is GENE THERAPY.
I’ve long had a problem with that outrageous meme-based lie, calling it “gene therapy”.
Genes reside in the nuclei of cells ONLY. None of the available shots introduce any kind of material that enters the nuclei of cells. Giving your body instructions to manufacture antibodies or spike proteins has ZERO effect upon your DNA. That is done via ribosomes and B-cells. Your genes remain whatever they were before getting these treatments.
I’m not saying there aren’t risks, and qualified professionals should always be consulted. But the entire process has nothing to do with GENES. It’s just … THERAPY.
“Real” vaccines most certainly DO need boosters more often than not. It depends entirely upon the mutation rates and behaviors of whatever virus is in question. If a dog bites you 12 years after your last Tetanus shot, you have no protection unless you get a booster – a fresh shot. If you either had chicken pox as a child (natural immunity) or a vaccine for it, you still need a Shingles series (TWO boosters) at age 60 or above, or you can get the disease, which is a VERY painful re-emergence of the chicken pox virus. Hepatitis vaccines require boosters. You really need to consult a doctor besides “Doctor Internet” before making blanket statements. Patients needs vary WIDELY depending on their health histories. No one size fits all.
Real Vaccines don’t need boosters. The word vaccine is misleading now. It is a therapeutic. To fight the left, you cannot let them control the language or the video. Honesty is the best policy. you will win over more people if you don’t try to confirm your own bias.
Yes!
Yep tds, that’s the bottom line.
Who will be the last classic liberal left in America?
Joe Manchin, or Donald Trump?
Me!! 🙂
I see nothing controversial either; I am glad SD posted his opinon…lots of trolls here trying to divide and conquer. I think the funny part of the interview is where she says covid doesn’t like her and she has not had it, and Trump says (hopefully) and did you have the vaccine, and she says, no, it doesn’t like me. Trump says with surprise and awe, good for you! Haha…I am like Candace; haven’t had it, no vaccine, I have a great immune system…covid hates people with immune systems who don’t watch tv.
Lucky you,
Neither the wife or I have ever had the flu, she hasn’t been to a doctor in goodness knows how long.
I go every 18 months or so for a medical..so far so good other than back issues.
Excellent immune systems so far. ( good luck in great part we know)
However a relative came into our home, and hugged the wife, next day we were contacted the relative had “ the 19”
Next day both of us came down with it, we had all the symptoms and self quarantined for approx 7 to 10 days.
We never web the to the doctor and are not a “ stat”
Upon recovery we paid $75.00 ( Can) for a test that we had the “ 19”
We are in our sixties..
IMO the gene therapy may have been suitable for elders in care homes ( 80%) or so, of reported deaths here in Canada are in care homes.
No shots for us EVER!
But if one is frail, and a worrier go for it, but leave the rest of us alone.
Cheers!
Criticizing Trump does NOT make someone a troll.
Thank you.
Blind love can get people into trouble. It boggles my mind that this is Trumps’ attitude w/everything known about Fauci and all the rest.
So if anyone has a difference of opinion they are a troll?
Covid doesn’t like me either. Praying it stays that way. No covid. No Vax.
Thank you, Jesus.
Merry Christmas. May our Lord continue to bless and keep you.
You need to chill. Many you call “trolls” are simply those with a brain who can disagree with PDJT at times while still supporting him.
You appear no better than the hateful Democrats who refuse to see ANYTHING good about the greatest President of my lifetime.
A blind ideologue IOW.
How about it’s genuine people with honest opinions that differ from yours and SD. If that makes us trolls than honest discourse is completely dead in America.
I see no problem with President Trump position, as it’s sound and measured. President Trump’s Vaccine goal was to clam the many people that were too afraid to take off a mask and even venture outside at the height of the Pandemic!
Don’t forget folks, the Democrats and the Press were making Covid in 2020 look like if someone were to breathe on you, you’d die! There were people that were actually too afraid to even kiss their spouse because they could get it or pass it at the time!
Society was teetering on collapse, and President Trump brought something to give people hope and be unafraid unlike the Alzheimer addled Resident in the White House, who if giving a chance would give people a jab every-time they went to the Toilet, whether they wanted it or not! (And also get a chance to sniff you if give the same chance!)
Vaxes had strict safety testing protocols. Gene therapies had even stricter testing protocols.
Operation Warp Speed ditched those safety testing protocols and replaced them with a joke of a two month long combined phase 2 and phase 3 test. That wasn’t long enough to prove it worked, let alone that it was safe.
As a result, we have vastly more deaths and harmful side effects than ever seen before from a vaccine. Levels rivaling those of drugs that have been pulled for being unsafe. Google vioxx deaths for a comparison.
And, it gave us vaccines that quit being beneficial. Rapidly stop protecting. It is so bad that they have grossly redefined the definition of a vaccine so that they can still call these things vaccines. And, requiring boosters is proof that they are gaslighting us with the ‘it still is effective against death and serious illness’ claim.
But hey, Trump didn’t mean to do bad when he enabled this bad behavior. Or did he? His EO on modernizing flu vaccines implies that they can make a new one unique to that year’s flu. Can’t do that without safety destroying tricks like those in OWS.
Join Trump as he travels down roads paved with good intentions.
I still think this is going to spin back around on him and the ineffectiveness of the vaccines will be used against him. He really needs to stop pimping it so hard too…
I think if he gets elected, they will suddenly get the VAERS records updated to include all the almost 400,000 deaths they have been hiding and he will be impeached for real. This could be the lefts ultimate comedown for TRUMP. We had better be looking for a strong VP or another candidate. I think Trump should have won in 2020, but this could fold out to be very bad. Also, if Trump took the vaccine, his health could deteriorate. These shots are causing neurological damage and still prone to cause heart and other organ damage. Could we find an unvaccinated candidate?
I agree. IMO he is in a hole and hasn’t stopped digging.
Would I vote for him again givien the chance? Oh hell yes!
DJT showed what could be done even with an anchor tied to both legs!
Anyone that hates the vaccine, or hates PDJT for promoting it any form.
Can you answer this question?
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Does the vaccine help boost elderly people’s immune system for a short period of time (3 months) during heightened circulation of the virus (winter months)?
if so, then does it have a use.
Interesting observation. Thanks.
I have not seen him promote it for children or healthy or even specify and age. There may be information out there that covers that. I’d be happy to see someone find it and provide.
he disagrees with the booster entirely (says its a scam to make more money).
Then why did he get one?
Are you even paying attention to the article or the thread?! He got one because he chose to do so.
because he is elderly
I agree. Facts and data. Facts and data. He needed to hit on who the vax helps the most and what the relative risk/benefit of it is for certain people versus others. Too many people think any given person’s chances of dying from the ‘rona is something like 20%.
i wish he’d get specific too. but he has always talked lawyer’y wrapping his comments up with an opposing angle.
I believe President Trump is playing them…
He’s telling the Hyena’s what they wanna hear….
I’m n my experience with 4 elderly vaxxed friends in early spring, they all had blood pressure issues and or heart complications.
One of them caught Covid and died.
Two other friends (not elderly) 1 is battling cancer and the other nerve/muscle spasms and several indicators of multiple organ failure from bloodwork.
3 months? Ain’t enough in my book. The “vaccines” are essentially treatments –
It’s time effective early treatments are offered to ALL age groups. Big Pharma’s rolling in the dough days need to end. Big Govt needs to step off.
i agree. its a tough situation.
in the end we will get to the bottom of this. and i hope its reconciled with punishment.
Durham is already working on it.
actually laughed out loud and it woke up my wife!
And doctors need to be doctors again. Help their patients. Treat them with known meds.
Don’t send them home to get worse and then from there go on a respirator in hospital….
WHiteboard, I believe the answer to your question is not fully known due to lack of data. The question is also biased. People with complicated health issues, elderly, etc, they have by all doctors recommended by a majority. The “odds” in these cases are what is in play.
The issue NO ONE touches is the lack of care if you go to a hospital no matter what. Almost all cases now of MORONIC are vaxxed individuals. That is fact. A good sized majority. It is basically a cold. To continue to proceed as if this is a deadly virus is laughable for the most part.
You go to the hospital you some oxygen, the only therapeutic you receive is Remedesvir. That has failed multiple clinical trials, and one use was for ebola. It killed many many people, and did so for other illness also. It attacks I recall the kidneys. You most likely will die. IF you do survive t hat, you get a vent, which will most likely finish you off. The hospitals get a fee for this. like 30k have from the start. The cost of the Remendisver injection is extremely high also. All of this is making huge profits for the hospitals.
Little of this is known to the public. Health care workers know, and that is why they so NO FN WAY for the clot shot.
Given it to children and teenagers is obscene,
Natural immunity is the ticket, and here is the kicker. Instead of promoting the clot shot. Just have some mild symptoms and get natural immunity, and herd immunity will be had.
Yet jpeople want to argue if the vaccine is effective for this or that. For almost all that answer is resounding NO, especially with the current therapeutics.
Everyone is trying to play their game. Wrong, in combat you play your game and use your skills to counter them. You dont wait, you attack.
ACTION IS FASTER THAN REACTION.
DELTA MORONIC errr, OMNICRON word salad anagram.. DELTAOMNICRON= MEDIA CONTROL what are the odds that is an “accident” Words cast spells, think about it.
The Delta Moronic, what is a Delta
remdesvir is a dud. i agree.
i think the question is posed to the vulnerable elderly that could not weather infection enough to get natural immunity.
Where are the facts to support that these quackzines boost elderly people’s immune system?
the antibody test show it boost. they test it at periodic times afterwards.
No, More elderly die within 2 weeks of taking the bioweapon so there is no good thing with taking it by anyone.
All I know is this year I have never seen so many elderly die at Thanksgiving and Christmas, fits w/the timing of getting the shot. Quite a few were confirmed vaxx’ers, the rest I don’t know, but I sure wanted to ask. Ministers are doing two, three funerals in a day. One can argue they were already old w/health problems, but I wonder would they still be alive? I am not going to test the theory that it boosts elderly immune systems for 3 months. It was either McCullough or Malone said that it doesn’t, and no, I don’t have a link.
when we get to the bottom this – we have everyones name involved.
I just got Kennedy’s book, it seems the names are all there and dots are connected, I am looking forward to reading it. The real question is will any of these people pay for their sheer unadulterated evil?
We really don’t have an answer to that. We have Fauci, big pharma and big media propaganda. I’ve heard/read that many, many residents of nursing homes and assisted living facilities died post haste after receiving their “lifesaving” injections. And it makes perfect sense. Why, if the virus is so dangerous to our “vulnerable,” would the injections not also be that dangerous to our vulnerable? It’s the spike protein that is dangerous – the same spike protein in both the virus and the injections. I think when and if we ever get honest again in this country, we’ll discover we wiped out 10s of 1000s of elderly people with the shots. I think they are dangerous for everyone, including our “vulnerable.”
No. In fact, according to what I’ve read, it actually lowers the immune system for a period of several weeks. Probably why they call a person unvaccinated until two weeks have passed. During those weeks, people, including and maybe especially, the elderly, are extremely vulnerable. I know a few people personally who got sick during that time, and one friend’s elderly mother, who had avoided covid for over a year, for sick with it and died quickly. Of course the death was considered to be from covid in an unvaccinated person.
How do you know and who do you believe?
Herr Faucci’s and his CDC?
You have got to be kidding me!
There is so much “noise” in the data stream how can one know any thing for certainty.
I fully agree … and “21USC 360bbb-3” fully supports that position.
President Trump moved heaven and hell to provide … an option. Which, according to the aforesaid law (and 10USC …) you can now by law FREELY CHOOSE FROM.
The laws concerning “emergency use authorization,” in particular, are quite explicit: YOUR BODY IS YOURS!
(Gasp … what a crazy idea …)
Government,
Like fire and fear,
Is a dangerous servant,
And a terrible master.
Maybe he threw a wrench in their efforts to use the virus as a control mechanism over the next 5-10 (maybe more) years? Hence, Operation WARP SPEED which maybe pushed them to make stupid moves faster than they originally planned?
Whatever his reason I appreciate the fact he respects our individual personal choices.
like literally do what we are complaining about (make more variants) because it actually is good to make a weaker more contagious form (that competes for anchoring against other strains)? in the elderly
one last point. Salesmen do what salesmen do. this pushing onto kids, and scaling up to compete in the global market is insane.
One of the regular great posters here (Dutchman or Whiteboard I think?) had an interesting observation that PDJT pushed warped speed so that Biden could not use Emergency Powers which would be much worse than what these criminal Dems are doing at the moment. Perhaps they can repost it.
Very good point!!
Agreed short of election fraud, which they had to ramp up.
PDJT would be in the W.H. today.
I think that for elderly and high risk Americans the vaccine is very likely a good idea. President Trump was trying to protect the most vulnerable age group of Americans over 70 years old!
I think that the elderly and high risk people should ABSOLUTELY stay away from any so called covid vaccine.
I wouldn’t put that crap into my veins for all the tea in China.
100% agree. How the hell are the elderly and high risk groups supposed to survive the toxins in those injections? Makes ZERO SENSE.
Gates and the World Economic Forum projected to get rid of everyone 60+ Take a look at this article by Kissinger–years ago. This is why they are pushing the vaccine on the “eaters”–non productive citizens.
https://tapnewswire.com/2021/06/a-quote-from-a-speech-by-henry-kissinger-2009-courtesy-of-danceaway/
Kissinger quote from a speech to the WHO Council on Eugenics,February 25th 2009: “Once the herd accepts mandatory vaccinations, It’s GAME OVER. They will accept anything – Forcible blood or organ donation- “For the greater good”. We can genetically modify children and sterilize them- “For the greater good”. Control sheep minds and you control the herd. Vaccine makers stand to make billions. And many of you in this room are investors. It’s a BIG win/win. We thin out the herd, and the herd pays us for extermination services” Henry Kissinger~
I agree that our President Trump’s position is pragmatic and sound politically. However, I am worried that it could backfire because so many of his MAGA supporters are also strongly against the gene therapy treatment.
I am halfway through Kennedy’s book about the Real Anthony Fauci and I am furious at the way that our President was deliberately mislead by the Traumatic Trio- Fauci, Birx, Collins. I have also read excerpts from Scott Atlas’s book as well. They are real eye openers.
PT is not a scientist, obviously, and he was forced to depend on these creeps who turned out to be OUR ENEMIES. He had not idea that the “vaccines” that were created by operation Warp Speed are not the same as the older conventional vaccines.
Nor did he have any way of knowing how potentially bad they can be for some people, what the side effects are and also the fact that their effectiveness fades quickly.
President Trump was in an impossible position and he did the absolute best that he thought he could do. I remember reading somewhere when the controversy started- well which do you trust more- the Trump vaccine or the Chinese bio weapon? And I thought that was a good point.
Not to mention that millions of people have gotten the shots with no bad side effects. So it is a very slippery slope, politically speaking.
One thing that always bothered me- Operation WS is the ONLY Trump program that they didn’t demolish. So there’s that.
For me- I will support our President Trump no matter what happens at this point. I do not think that OWS is a game changer for me. The virus came from China and it was all the a criminal conspiracy to steal the election and impose virtual martial law on the country.
Right now there is no real leadership in the Resistance movement except for the great Ron DeSantis. And he is going to run for another term as governor which is as it should be.
I believe that the only person who can re-unite the MAGA movement and bring us to victory is President Donald Trump.
I know how you feel.
Honestly, I think neither he nor DeSantis want to come out against the vaccines. And I think it has to do with being on the bad side of Big Pharma, although President Trump did go to bat for us in lowering drug prices. But there’s a lot of campaign money involved with Big Pharma, too.
But I see if he got boostered, then he probably is a big believer.
But it is dismaying that he hasn’t been informed or any research on what is the history of the mRNA vaccines, or what has happened to people since.
Well, big pharma is part of the evil that is running this country. If a leader won’t speak out against that, I don’t know what to say.
got a flip a coin and go with whatever side lands.
no vaccine – lockdown and emergency powers still in effect. and Governors running mercilessly through their population using Police Powers.
Vaccine – end lockdown, vaccine injuries for a percentage ( anywhere from 25% to less), not fully informed, mandated and not by choice
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can we really win in either situation?
The jab hasn’t ended lockdowns!
The virus was made in China, paid for by DARPA and US dollars.
Just an opinion, but see timing to address this as being important. When President Trump does bring into the public discussion the question of why the CDC, NIH and every other agency involved to so easily disregarded the adverse events from the vaccines –
when he does that, and in a way only he can do, bigly, then tables turn on the Fauci circus, including those who blocked early treatment therapies, internationally slammed world renown researchers and physicians who created the Great Barrington Declaration, kept on pushing the masking fallacy – ’cause when Trump makes any statement it automatically makes the Left overreact in their attempts to disclaim anything he says – and given the press’ track record that just means more eyes get opened to their game.
A tricky maneuver, knowing the right time, but if anyone can do it, it will be a very stable genius.
Yes.
And maybe Omicron will get us to the right moment…
Bessie- great post.
Here is a an excellent essay, one of the best I’ve read, on our current situation.
At this point in the pandemic, there are two distinct paths:
(1) Continue down the government’s rabbit hole of lockdowns, vaccine passports, triple jabs, quadruple jabs, segregation, masking, isolation, and divisive rhetoric erroneously blaming one group of people for the woes of the pandemic or
(2) common-sense risk acceptance predicated on the belief that medical autonomy based upon being an informed consumer is a God-given right.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/12/pandemania_and_the_psychology_of_fear.html
Well, the left/Dems want communism, and according to the Communist Manifesto the proletariat should be raised to the ruling class. So, shouldn’t we be seizing the means of production from Pfizer, Moderna, et al? And Bill Gates/Microsoft too?
Grab Soros, Geilman, Pelosi,Comrade Steyer, Nadler,Schumer,Bloomberg,Biden 7 Bush crime family,Clinton’s etc etc wealth, basically all the Democrats and their puppetmasters, and disperse all of their ill gotten gains to the “proletariat” they have stolen enough from America with their treason and criminality to raise every person they put on the welfare rolls to put on the Democrat plantation, to get off.
It’s fascism, actually. An inverted fascism where the huge multinationals order the sta state to do their bidding.
I agree. If they don’t force people to take it, there is no problem. But look at Australia and Austria and New Zealand!
no digital passport if you don’t force.
One thing I would like to know, but haven’t heard yet anyway, is what does Donald Trump think about young kids getting injected ( they are not actual vaccines). Does he think the benefit outweighs the risk for them? He clearing believes the benefit outweighs the risk for older adults, and I guess not so older adults, but does he also think the benefit outweighs the risk for young kinds?
i havent seen him specify any age at all. any reference of children or young healthy adults.
What’s really weird is that Trump has said time and again for MONTHS now that he is anti- Mandate.
And yet some people are still freaking out about his support of the vax.
Take the vax/don’t take the vax. Support the vax/don’t support the vax.
I could care less. Just don’t tell me that I HAVE to take it if I don’t want to.
Thanks for this essay, SD.
Really. Thank You.
The media is already using this as a cudgel to say to Trump supporters, “See! Your leader thinks you are stupid if you don’t get vaxxed.” How about this? Let’s get down to the truth. Even though public opinion has now become majority against vax mandates, that’s not the point. Real leaders stand on the truth and LEAD the people in the direction of the truth. We are still not being allowed to discover the truth about mRNA vaccine damage. Just speak the truth about that instead of delegitimizing the concerns of those who are facing the financial destruction of their lives like my family is.
Frankly, the fact that a debate about the science and safety of this vax is Verbotten is what has made me (and I suspect many others) not trust it.
That, and the fact that discussion of Iver and hydroxy was shut down.
Hear, hear! It’s also absolutely stunning sick patients aren’t being treated for their symptoms when they see their doctors. I can’t imagine our doctor not treating us when we had covid. One or both of us could have ended up really sick and hospitalized without the therapeutics. Governor DeSantis is the only governor who stepped up and did his job right off the bat to offer treatments other than “vaccines” such as he did with monoclonal antibodies – Regeneron, the more recent Evusheld, the Florida Dept. of Health is leading strong with healthy living advice, etc. He simply takes care of ALL Floridians and doesn’t run around barking just test, test, test or “vaccines” non-stop. Governor DeSantis simply doing his job makes the rest look pitiful, incompetent or inept.
THAT is the issue, more than any other, that makes me absolutely furious.
That is deliberate, considered, calculated murder in my book. Of MILLIONS, because most countries follow the US medical “advice” blindly.
Iver & HCQ would have saved 80+% of these poor people.
DO NO HARM my a$$. More like “do no harm to my profits”.
Trump spent four years explaining why not to GAS about what the media says about us and you’re still worried about it?
your anger is valid. but it seems to be rooted in the propaganda in pushing this for everyone, and the mandates.
if PDJT was still President pushing this vaccine – it would only have been taken by some elderly after consult with the doctor. No Media would have made dancing nurse videos promoting the vaccines, no children commericials praising the injection for christmans.
THIS WHOLE THING IS SALESMEN – doing their JOB flawlessly with ZERO CARE of the outcome SINCE its not their job to test the safety of a product.
He also said that if you get vaxxed, you won’t die of COVID. Same misinformation as has come out of chinaJoes racist mouth.where is he getting his info from…Psaki.
Yes, he seems to be repeating mainstream media talking points.
A large part of it is agitation. We got him now!
His enemies believe they have an angle of attack, to weaken some of his support.
Its fools gold.
Trump has always rejected the mandate. It is everyone’s freedom of choice. Trump does not drink alcohol, does that mean everyone stopped drinking alcohol?
People are to quick to blame Trump when it is their own responsibility to make the decision for themselves and not Trumps responsibility.
“Trump does not drink alcohol,..”
Imagine if Trump provides guns and alcohol to the Indian tribes. What’s not to like about either?
Then, wadda you know…the Indians get drunk and shoot to pieces a prairie settlement.
Was the problem guns and alcohol or was the problem guns and alcohol in the hands of bad men?
The OWS project may be innocent enough but placing this medicine in the hand of Dr Anthony Fauci was a prescription for disaster.
pro or anti vax discussion is irrelevant if you can’t not see the lies and criminal behavior around it
I’m a yuge Trump supporter, but I question his judgement when he says that the jab has saved hundreds of millions of lives. At best it has saved some but also killed some. At worst, it could kill millions if there are unknown long-term side effects.
Most Covid deaths are due to denial of care or improper care. For instance, most people dying while on a ventilator do so from kidney or renal failure, and the new/expensive drug remdisivir causes kidney and renal damage.
Fake data, fake models, & fake tests drove the fear, lockdowns and govt overreach. President Trump referencing the fake models to make statements about how many lives the vaccines saved isn’t his best look. Truth will prevail when the blinders are off- Big Pharma and Fauci thwarted early effective treatments for the almighty profits of endless vaccines and boosters.
Enough of the lies.
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That our VSGPDJT is encouraging people to use their own mind to decide whether they want the vaccine, or not, should not be controversial.
I am in full concordance with this view of Sundance’s.
That their appears to be voters out there that are livid because Trump won’t say what they want him to say at the moment, is a mite more concerning as to someone’s state of mind, IMHO . . .
It isn’t about what anyone wants him to say, it is about he isn’t telling the truth. Sheer unadulterated evil has been released on the entire world that has affected millions of people in so many different ways, and here is this guy saying the “vaccine” that isn’t a vaccine is ok? Only the mandates are a problem? That is a problem. There seems to be voters out there that are livid how anyone dare question dear leader. That is of mite concern.
Trump was backed in a corner, he did the best he could at that time, they were after him, that is a fact, but now there is just too much evidence out there that this stuff being injected into people, and the way it has been handled, doctors threatened to lose their license if they prescribe a safe cheap drug for starters, is not ok, not even remotely ok. The so called vaccine is a toxic poison.
I have had the privilege of meeting Trump, I was giddy for weeks afterward, he is an incredibly special human being, but I am deeply disturbed by his attitude over this topic. It is controversial, and dangerous. Something is amiss, or he is simply human like everyone else and has a real hard time admitting he was duped.
I do not agree with Trump on the vaccine. It is not a small issue.
He explicitly states that it’s YOUR choice to take it or not, not the Governments decision.
i think the HCQ and Ivermectin trials were not designed with the best intentions of outcome.
Candice for vp
She is extremely articulate & intelligent. She also is great in exposing the communists, and especially how they use and have been using black people for decades without ever helping them. A female version of Andrew Breitbart?
Why do you feel she is qualified to be a hair away from the Presidency. Please tell me what she has accomplished besides being an African American conservative. As far as I’m concerned the only Republican women I would vote for is Sara Palin at least she was Governor of a state. I don’t dislike Candance Owens but VP really?
White House Press Secretary better aligns with her skill set.
I will only consider a Covid vaccine, when they shut the hell up about them and remove the liability waiver. Which means, never.
As I understand it, the Covid jab is NOT a vaccine.
Everything I’ve seen suggests that it’s designed to infiltrate the body’s immune system in ways that either make the body dependent on what has been injected (and future injections), or to damage the immune system itself.
I cannot support this in any way and I question whether those that do have sound reasoning skills.
The people who created this “vaccine” and who push it on others are criminals, IMO. Maybe he prefers to walk the line between two opposing views but that’s seems like a cop out. (…again, IMO)
“…NOT a vaccine…”
Ah! But after the CDC changed the definition of vaccine in September, it now IS a vaccine!
See how that works?
dont forget the definition of cases. now its anyone with a virus floating on their shirt.
The magic of The Official Position!
Is he a slow learner or just exhibiting the same lack of judgement he did when hiring his DS mole cabinet?? Hopefully DeSantis will run in 2024.
Right there with you Hittman.
You do realize President Trump and Ron DeSantis hold exactly the same position, right?
It’s not only the same position – it’s identical.
So, considering that, you might want to reevaluate your *true* motives for opposition; because you’ve clearly outlined that it isn’t about the vaccination position. However, it appears you are using the vaccination position as a shield.
I’m also troubled by DeSantis’ sort of noncommittal stance on the injections (from what I’ve seen). I’m just happy not to hear him crow about them as one of his signature accomplishments, unlike PDJT. And I’d like to see DeSantis talking up more than monoclonal antibodies as early therapeutics. It makes me uncomfortable that he doesn’t ever mention ivermectin or the protocols put together by the front line doctors who’ve been saving lives and keeping people healthy since the virus arrived. This absolute disaster will be top of my mind in future elections. I know what needs to be said, and I’ll be listening for it.
Here’s some good news about IVM and Florida. Main pharamacies WILL fill the prescription if there IS a Covid diagnosis on the script. My husband couldn’t transfer because there wasn’t (it was written prophylactically).
Bravo, Sundance I was wondering when your timer was going to go off,and bingo here you are and I might say beautiful timing.
He holds the same position as a lot of conservatives – take it if you want to; don’t if you don’t.
The difference is that he was the one that rushed the experimental Vaxx to market, gave total tort protection to its makers; made it a centerpiece of his response; calls it the greatest achievement in the history of the world and says that without it 100,000,000 Americans would have died.
With respect to the vaxx – I agree with him on freedom of choice; I disagree with him on everything else.
And that is BEFORE we get to the redefinition of executive power during an emergency.
Those two together are disasters for our Constitutional Republic.
Who would you have hired? Throw a few patriotic trustworthy names out there.
The way I remember it, PDJT was totally alone in his 4 year administration.
Why did President Trump select Bill Barr for his AG when everyone remembers Barr’s trenchant defense of FBI hitman Lon Horiuchi?
David Yost would have made an excellent Attorney General, even without a set of bagpipes to blow.
He would not have failed to follow up on leads into voting irregularities and Trump would still have his old job.
https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/ohio-attorney-general-to-continue-legal-pushback-against-osha-covid-19-vaccine-and-testing-mandate/
DeSantis should stay where he is, and make Florida redder.
Sounds like Nimrata and 30 Pence would tick all your boxes..
then Ron DeSantis gets targeted by the media. no thanks. PDJT can be the Arrow Taker and keep coattails for good men coming up like Gov DeSantis and Dr. Carson.
I just wish he would also promote the therapeutics – Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Buedesonide, Vitamin D, Vitamin C., Zinc + Quercetin, Melatonin.
Lots of information out there to debunk the emergency use for these faux “vaccines”.
I wish ANYBODY w/ a huge voice would do that.
It would be a turning point, for sure.
He’s already done that and was mercilessly vilified
He did! And was crucified for it.
He’s not a man of courage, he’s a man of political compromise. There’s a difference.
‘ I don’t see anything controversial in this position.’
Nor do I.
I have friends & family that have taken it, I hope no harm comes from it and I certainly don’t shame or insult them for taking it.
They are registered voters as well.
In what world would any potential Presidential Candite behave that way?
Big Pharma was going to pump the same stuff out, except The New World Order Cabal intended for years of hard lockdowns in order to usher in their Great Reset. America was supposed to be behaving like Australia right now.
Trump just cut through the swamp so he could get America working again as quickly as possible.
My Mom received her booster around the first week of October–her choice.
About 7 weeks later she was diagnosed with a serious heart infection.
She was buried two days ago.
I accept that she/the family must take personal responsibility for their decisions. And I can’t prove she was a victim of a vaccine side effect, but that’s what I believe to be true.
I don’t blame Trump for her death but I find his leadership on this issue truly appalling.
The consequences for some people from being vaccinated is serious injury or death. It is far more than just an “economic issue” or a “national security issue.” That is insulting.
Please don’t give your kids this injection. The risk profile is too high. Think two, three and four times about whether you’ll get it yourself, or if you’ve gotten it, whether you should risk a booster.
Good luck all.
I am sorry for your loss. Condolences and prayers.
I am so sorry for your loss. May you find peace and comfort.
I’m sorry for your loss.
That is very sad what happened to your Mom. Buried two days ago. Your emotions must be very raw. Sending condolences and prayers to you.
As to the rest of what you shared, I agree that the entire topic of vaccines and mandates goes far beyond being an economic or national security issue (though it is that, for sure, and those are no small things).
After listening to the interview, it drove the point home that this is how he thinks. It was like the time he responded to a woman in a townhall who was about to lose everything and told her the stock market was going to get really strong again very soon.
He’s just one man who has his limits, like anyone else. But it’s hard to see them on display. Especially because I, for one, feel so desperate to have lots and lots of strong leaders speaking out, taking charge, and fighting this tyranny that is blanketing our nation. But the landscape is empty.
Ron Johnson is one of the, if not the only, politician telling the truth on all of it. God bless him.
Very sorry about your mom. Especially at these times during Christmas.
Oh, dear, my deepest sympathy to you in the loss of your mother. May God give you and your family peace.
The mRNA gene therapy (which is what it actually is, but doesn’t roll off the tongue like “vaxx”) is designed to lower our God given internal defenses against disease. It is designed to harm, not help. Few people can imagine our government would actually promote harm over help … but this is what it is.
I call this thing VAIDS: Vaccine Acquired Immuno Deficiency Syndrome.
AIDS patients never died from AIDS. They died from a vast array of other disease their body could no longer fight.
We are injecting VAIDSinto our veins. It is merely a matter of time, for those who have done so. The greatest crime and fraud … unimaginable what they have done.
Condolences. My mom insisted on getting the damned shot and for her trouble she got a stroke and a side order of heart damage. I come from tough, long lived Appalachian people. Living to 100 is almost considered a given. Can I prove the jab did it? Nope but it’s one hell of a coincidence.
“President Trump’s position seems quite pragmatic and reasonable. He’s proud to have developed the vaccines, believes they are of benefit, but strongly respects individual choice, liberty and the freedom to decide for yourself and your family. I don’t see anything controversial in this position.”
The Word.
Maybe, or he’s pretending to not know.
He seems genuinely shocked when Candace tells him she never had Covid. He is not operating from a position of statistical reality. Based on the fudged ‘case’ numbers, 2/3rds of Americans still haven’t had Covid. Either a whole bunch of people had it, and it was so mild they didn’t report it or see a doctor, or it’s not rampaging the nation like the media has presented to us.
I didn’t have Covid until late October this year. I’m 52 years old. I ran a 101 fever for one night, I went to my local clinic and got Regeneron (what he got), and when I got up off the chair after an hour and a half of IVs, I had no temperature and had no symptoms after that.
My children STILL haven’t had covid. Pardon me if I think it is more important that their health and safety be protected from a forced medical experiment than the legacy of his Warp Speed achievement.
“World Council for Health Reveals Spike Protein Detox/ A must read for those who had COVID And those who had the jab”
A chart of drugs & dosages to help to a is at the very bottom of the article.
This site removes their articles after a certain amount of time. there’s a timer near the top of the page. which now is about 3 more hours
STORY AT-A-GLANCE
If you had COVID-19 or received a COVID-19 injection, you may have dangerous spike proteins circulating in your body
Spike proteins can circulate in your body after infection or injection, causing damage to cells, tissues and organs
The World Council for Health has released a spike protein detox guide, which provides straightforward steps you can take to potentially lessen the effects of toxic spike protein in your body
Spike protein inhibitors and neutralizers include pine needles, ivermectin, neem, N-acetylcysteine (NAC) and glutathione
The top 10 spike protein detox essentials include vitamin D, vitamin C, nigella seed, quercetin, zinc, curcumin, milk thistle extract, NAC, ivermectin and magnesium
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/12/22/spike-protein-detox.aspx?cid_medium=etaf&cid=share
As an unvax’d following the protocol, fragments of spike protein were found in my lower vertebrae on a imago scan report.
Everyone should probably be following the detox guide.
Too many anti vaxxers on CTH are going full tilt anti Trump. Time to shut them down..
Would the deny the vaccine to millions who want to take it?
I thought cancelling people who have differing views was bad…
This was a blog before Trump became President and I’d hope that it continues to be broader than Trump.
Remember the Trayvon coverage and Jessica Chambers? This site was amazing.
Lulu:
Correction: this site IS amazing.
Good times!
Recall how CTH handled Qanon?
Same here with the anti vaxxers.
P Trump is against mandates. What more do you want?
You would deny the vaccine to the millions who wanted it?
I’m not an anti-vaxxer, anti-Trump or anti-choice (for those who wish to take the vaccine)….
But I am most definitely anti-“shut them down”… You really are ugly, Cuss
Better yet shut us out of our jobs ,schools, grocery stores, maybe even medical care. And you wonder why we are upset with President Trump, the more he touts his vaccines the more it alienates a portion of his base. But hey maybe he can persuade those who hate him to vote for him in 2024 because now he is making his base look like stupid fools. Let me know how that works out.
Who said anything about “denying vacccines?” Stopping mandates is the issue, along with questioning Trump’s position supporting the jabs. This isn’t communist China, we don’t “shut them down” in America.
The term anti vaxxer is offensive. It implies that we are against all vaccines, not just this gene therapy. It also implies that our beliefs are based on emotion rather than extensive research. And it is used by the same people who offer Krispy kreme donuts and McDonald’s meals in return for taking the jab. At this point, I’m done here for a while. I don’t know how I feel about Trump at this point. I’m sure I’d vote for him over a commie, but as for rallies or donating, I don’t know. Big pharma is a huge part of the mess we’re in. If some politician doesn’t have the balls to stop them, they’ll kill us all.
Have you heard of thalidomide?
I don’t see anything wrong with his position, especially when you juxtapose Peter Navarro’s op-Ed where he explained the intent of the vaccine: to provide it to those most vulnerable.
I think if gov’ts across the world only suggested the elderly and those at high risk got the vaccine we wouldn’t see all these variants spun off so quickly. We’d probably also be back to “normal”.
I won’t take it and don’t care if you do, just don’t force your position on me.
My wife had a Christmas lunch for work and I got to go. I got there first. It was at a hotel and the people sitting behind had a lady with a mask hanging around here neck. She said she worked in the hospital administration and had stories of unvaccinated people dying. Well, I personally know of fully vaxxed people who died. She sat there in the room with 20 foot ceilings with her mask hanging and put it on to walk out – seriously, what the f$#k does she think it would do to protect her when she sat in the same environment for over 1.5 hours not wearing it, talking up a storm.
There’s no persuading either side in this debate. I thought her statesments and actions were stupid, she would probably think I’m stupid 🤷♂️
As long as genocide doesn’t require “put the gun in your head” then is it ok?
By this time anyone still believe the mRNA genocide bioweapon is the wonderful drug saving millions lives is delusional.
Thank you Sundance. Perspective us everything.
Did he say no one is dying from the vaccines or was that hype today?
That’s a question I have too. According to msn he said that, but consider the source.
He’s treating us like he treated the MSM, no chink in his armor. I think he needs to see the difference.
And if he were to acknowledge that it kills some and works as a therapeutic for others and still promote it you’d be ok with that? So if he didn’t “lie” it’s all good according to your purity test? In life I’ve learned a crazy notion that if you’re in a situation where you’re crucified for any mistake you make you admit to none. He is doing no harm by touting his success with the accelerated gene therapy development as he knows our lot think for ourselves and are fiercely independent. To admit the failure of the vaccine push is just redirecting the microscope back unto himself when the current regime is failing spectacularly. Why should he intervene on their behalf when he can serve the greater good? Please focus on the macro long game and back off the micro cliff.
Thank you for the reasonable post Sundance.
My family and I refuse to be vaxxed. But the President’s position is reasonable (as well as politically expedient if he intends to appeal to different groups).
Man a lot of new peeps rearing their heads attempting to sow division. You will not deflect from your failures or from the failures of your communist/totalitarian brethren. We see you.
B.S. Give it a rest.
Yeah sure buddy. Got any other demands?
Did he ever?
I can’t support anyone who supports or pushes the bioweapon. I can understand this few months ago but not now. Any leader allows this bioweapon legally use by population doesn’t deserve to be leader.
Really weak effort.
You should try harder., or maybe lay the blame at the feet of the illegitimate puppet attempting to force it on adults and children alike.
I have personally lost my career over this vaccine.
My Company was cut to the quick when Trump “shut down the economy”. We’ve never been the same since.
Government Executives (Governors, Mayors) across America took note of this unlawful abuse of power and made it their own. Government by dictator fiat: Government has never been the same since.
And these stupid vaccines. Bragging about rushing experimental vaccines into the population that are dying and being injured from side-effects is not something he should brag about. And the vaxx is at the core of the NWO takeover of Representative government throughout Western civilization. So many are suffering, deeply. For shame!
Knowing what we know now … I am not happy at all to see President Trump taking this position on the vaxx. No, not at all. No one I know is persuaded by his support. He lost me on this one.
Sorry for your circumstances. Too many of our fellow citizens are suffering, unnecessarily, because of these actions, correctly described as “govered by fiat”. If Obama had done this, no one here would be defending it.
President Trump is great and I will vote for him a third time, but his declaration of emergency in March was a huge mistake. It created so many opportunities for his enemies and it is painful to see him continue to defend his decision. I can’t help but wonder why he continues to defend the efficacy of the jabs.
hindsight 2020
the vaccines boost an immune compromised high risk persons immune system for 3 months, weatherign their life through the high circulation months.
if its done strategic, and in consultation with a doctor CLEARLY trying to get a HIGH RISK patient past winter to live another year – THEN ITS worthwhile in the Benefit Vs. Risk Ratio.
Except these people were never given true informed consent. They were not told of the adverse effects of these shots including death. The government also gave a blanket of immunity to the criminals who produced these shots and many thousands of people have been maimed or killed by them. Trump should demand these be stopped before many more, including children, are maimed or die this winter after the jabs. It’s disgusting Trump keeps defending these terrible va((ines.
you are pointing out our Pharmaceutical Reps and the Insurance Companies are the Primary Problem with our Healthcare.
Pfizer can send one lobbyist team and salesmen through congresss and the hospitals and have every stupid Doctor doing tricks for snacks.
thts the problem.
I agree with you Whiteboard, but the docs in my network all push the jab, in any case, because that is what the bureaucracy that has taken them over wants them to do. At least President Trump did advocate for the therapeutics.
Back to the declaration of emergency…that gave massive cover to the blue state totalitarian govs who locked us down, especially when they were taken to court. That was a huge mistake and I knew it when he made it. I’m no genius, so I can’t help but wonder how we was bamboozled into it?
He…sorry.
Governors can declare the national emergency any time.
PDJT did the 15 days bullshit – so that may have some contribution to helping the Governors looks like PDJT told them too. but it was the Governors, and PDJT cannot STOP THEM.
until their is a MEDICAL SOLUTION to make the Emergency Power the Rogue Governors are using get nulled by the Court (if it ever goes there)
This is why the vaccine was made.
(can you name another tool besides a vaccine – that would stop a lockdown? if not, then you know why and the hell we are in)
The hell is created by our enemies, not the virus. Therapeutics have proven to be very effective and have proven Fauci and his pharma friends to be corrupt. As a believer in capitalism I used to defend those ba$tards, but not so much anymore.
We know Iveremectin combined with vitamins C and D3 and zinc works. Two doses and covid is gone. Witness Uttar Pradesh, India.
The emergency needs to be declared OVER. The big pharma immunity from liability needs to be declared OVER. People are dying and are being injured by the jab. Cancer and heart disease are up among the vaxed.
The emergency is OVER.
Supporting the CDC’s vague phased reoping scheme was the big mistake. I knew at tine it was a license for governors to go full tyrant with no hard criteria to end it.
“Governors can declare the national emergency any time.”
And the state’s legislative body can end it at will as the Gretchen Whitmer example shows.
Why would Trump feed into the frenzy of a hostile Congress by forcing free Americans to enter house arrest?
“At least President Trump did advocate for the therapeutics.”
He was on the right track and then left it. I can imagine the pressure he was under, and the voice he heard was Fauci’s rather than Peter McCullough’s.
However, knowing what we know now – and have known for nearly a year – Trump should at the least be promoting therapeutics alongside the injections. Promoting them in lieu of he injections would be even better.
But it isn’t. How many young healthy athletes have died? The whole thing is about control, not health.
He was surrounded by enemies. As far as voting for him again, why would anyone think anything would be different now? Same enemies who have recruited even more and become more powerful.
IMO all moot. He’s not running, has lost too much support even if he did run and they own the elections.
I hear you. Many of us live in constant fear that we won’t be able to support ourselves if we don’t take the clot shot. And your children aren’t safe in any public school or doctor’s office – they could be jabbed at anytime without your knowledge or consent.
I feel hunted. It’s hard to get past that.
He isn’t the one forcing you to get injected or lose your job now, is he?
I will say, if I HAD taken the shot and was injured, you better believe I’d be extremely bitter about all of it.
Because I have avoided it and any adverse effects from it, it’s easier for me to say, his position is okay.
Without the President not only green lighting the issuance of drugs that had no meaningful clinical trials but actively pushing it, we might not be in this mess.
Were President Trump’s bad decisions a proximate cause of Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate?
Good point.
The problem is confused messaging. He says the vaccines are the greatest thing ever, but no one should be forced to take them. But he says nothing about the documented deaths and injuries caused by the vaccines, and only sings their praises. The vaccines don’t work, they don’t stop infection or stop transmission, and they are dangerous. In fact, they are not “vaccines” at all. Plus he seems blind to the fact that the vaccines are the vehicle by which the communists are destroying freedom and instituting one-world government. He never says anything about these things.
Exactly.
He’s lying to us. Remember his “I could kill someone on 5th Avenue and they’d still support me.” At this point my trust is in Christ alone as it should have always been.
No, he is not. But, it would be nice if he would reconsider his advocacy of the Clot-shot. How many young fit athletes have keeled over dead. How many have had their sports careers ended. How many more cancers, heart attacks and strokes. Well, we don’t know because the statisticians at CDC and NIH and won’t tell us. They should be doing autopsies on vaccinated folks who just die suddenly. Are they?
I don’t know, but I don’t think so
This could cost him the election if he runs again.
Maybe it will all just blow over, but I don’t think so.
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Could you take advantage of the Loans they were giving out?
I saw companies not profit – but made it through using those.
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a 3 month boost of immunity is the most this type of tool can do.
with side effects that are tailored to the genetic make up of each individual person
some people have more backups with a protein is knocked down. some people dont
i’d assume in the beginning the vaccines were for the INDICATED POPULATION – elderly and HIGH RISK.
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Salesmen took over and gave this to youth, then babies, then competed globally via COVAX.
Biden was set in the WhiteHouse and Mandates came (not before)
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We are in hell because of the stolen election. Not because of warp Speed
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I know the trial was a hoax. but i also know the product CAN BOOST for 3 months (Not at all how it was sold to the public).
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Ask you self this National Security question – Saving the people your age and older if you were the President.
*does the vaccine help boost elderly people’s immune system for a short period of time (3 months) during heightened circulation of the virus (winter months)?*
President Trump tried to rescue the USA and by extension the world from a shutdown with no end date. It mostly worked (he couldn’t continue to subvert the Great Reset after the stolen election), but of course the vaxxes were designed by the same bastards who delight in sewing human fetal tissue to rats, and issued by governments hungrier for permanent feudal power than I am for bacon sammiches.
If PDJT came out against the jabs now we’d all celebrate and the leftists in power would have the distraction topic of all times, for every possible purpose, drowning out any and all conversation about anything else for as long as they need. They’re really good at that.
I don’t know anybody irl who does not want him back as President, preferably tomorrow morning, but Jan 2025 at latest. Key: IRL.
yep – staying focused on Biden’s failures is putting the Democrats in the mood they were for Hillary come election time.
I agree it might be problematic for him to do a 180. What about just stop advocating for these controversial rushed to market vaccines.
But there are also downsides. People have died within hours of taking these shots, people have developed severe cardiac and neurological problems, and it’s not a small number of people. More children have died of the vaccine than have died of Covid. In any earlier era in this country, these vaccines would never have made it off the drawing board, and even if they had, they would have been shut down months ago when the vaccine casualties became known.
As long as vaxx mandates remain a threat, they will be the #1 issue among the Trump base. Unless this threat somehow disappears (which is possible if SCOTUS moots it), then he will be forced to change his position 180 degrees or he will not be a viable candidate. And I don’t see Trump doing a 180 here, not when he’s calling it the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.
Exact same job loss circumstances with me, and I concur with your conclusions. I’m glad there is more than one presidential contender coming up… If we make it that far.
FTA..
“Second, flattening the curve was always shown with the same level of flattening: just enough to not overwhelm the health-care system.
This was a tacit admission that flattening the curve would be painful and that it would not be beneficial to flatten the curve beyond the level needed to prevent overwhelming the healthcare system.
Flattening the curve was the bait. Next came the switch……”
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“Flattening the curve was sound logic when it was originally presented, and remains so today. That’s why so many people across the political spectrum originally bought into the idea.
The change from flatten-the-curve to stop-the-virus-at-all-costs, however, has been a disaster.
More than 40 million people have lost their jobs. The related angst and associated lack of social opportunities created a dry forest that exploded in flames when George Floyd was killed. Moreover, deaths of despair and child abuse are both likely rising as a result.
We must reject the largest, most destructive bait and switch ever enacted and return to the principles of flattening the curve.
We must accept that nature can be brutal and more infections will happen. Yet we must push through. We must strive to reopen our society as much as possible and only implement mitigation efforts to the extent needed to avoid a clearly imminent threat of overwhelming hospitals.”
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/29/flattening-the-curve-has-become-a-massive-bait-and-switch/
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Wonder who championed “Stop the virus at all costs”.
Chicken dinner, or beer? How about both?
Not one single avid mouth drooling red hat wearing Trump live or die lover I know has been persuaded by his support of the vaxx, NOT ONE. And I know lots of them, including myself, critical thinking is what they know, not blindly following the leader. Trump may learn he doesn’t have the power he thinks he has if he keeps up w/the BS.