Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber as he was being attacked by a raging mob. Rittenhouse also fired on Gaige Grosskreutz as the attacker held a handgun toward him. Prosecutors and U.S. corporate media attempted to claim that Rittenhouse was a vigilante looking for a fight; however, the defense, and all video of the events, show all shootings were justifiable self-defense.
If the history of tracking the ¹DOJ-CRS results in a repeat of previous patterns within high-profile cases, the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict is likely to come today. Consider this an open discussion thread for the verdict or any activity in the trial.
¹The DOJ-CRS is the least known quasi-legislatively approved agency within the justice department. The CRS is the Community Relations Service, and is a very secret division within the DOJ civil rights unit. The activity of the CRS is rarely discussed, but essentially the agency is authorized to reach into any court proceeding, local, state or federal, and modify/guide the proceedings under the auspices of maintaining national racial harmony.
“The Community Relations Service (CRS), a component of the Department of Justice (DOJ), serves as “America’s Peacemaker” for communities in conflict by mediating disputes and enhancing community capacity to independently prevent and resolve future conflicts.” (read more)
An RSBN team is stationed in Kenosha today (November 18), to give updates on the Wisconsin v. Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Jᴏᴇ_ᴅpTro@Joe_DPtro
@JoyAnnReid will claim some sort of -ism about this
9:43 AM · Nov 18, 2021·
Moving the jurors to a secure location for deliberation seems to indicate they were bothered by the BLM shouting on their bullhorns and felt they couldn’t do their job cause they felt threatened.
They were threatened.
Well I believe they were, but no one I know has been in the Jury room. All we hear are rumors
Then I hope they can imagine what Kyle was going through that night
In a just world, Kyle would be given his AR back with a couple hundred rounds. He’s obviously capable of defending himself
And despite the chaotic environment, he kept his head on straight, never sprayed his bullets, and then went on to talk with the pice. A very level-headed guy, and one of great character.
I’d hire him in a New York minute.
“felt” threatened? I dare say they WERE threatened.
It indicates the court is being cautious.
Anything beyond that is pure speculation, but it is certainly possible the Police have wind of untoward things going on.
The Judge and family were also receiving numerous threats from the radical BLM and Antifa. It’s believed by many that no matter what the verdict is they’re going to riot and destroy, thusly the Governor ordered several hundred National Guard Troops to a nearby striking/staging area just incase.
“…that’s extremely serious…and will be referred” {for investigation and prosecution]
If this is not prosecuted then juries will be forever tainted in high profile cases.
no one will be arrested, and there will be no prosecutions.
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CRIKEY! These “news” activists are flipping DANGEROUS. Nothing we didn’t already know.
Great, that’s all we need is the CRS! ~s
Say what??
I just heard the Judge on the Rittenhouse case say MSNBC will not be allowed in the courtroom for the duration of the proceedings after questions have come up wrt them following jurors.
This aired on OANN. I want to know more. Time to go hunting.
And in fact, there was — but not with the deliberations. For the second time in this trial, police spotted someone tracking the jury, and this time they arrested the person:
Shortly afterward, Judge Schroeder disclosed that the suspect claimed to be working for MSNBC. To emphasize the point about interference, Schroeder banned the channel’s personnel from the courtroom for the remainder of the trial:
That won’t stop them from trying to follow the bus again.
Whose driving the bus?
Thanks, Whatevs.
This is getting more interesting by the minute.
MSNBC is banned from the building for the remainder of the trial.
MSNBC should be trespassed for longer or forever.
Then CNN and NPR.
ALL of the Commie MSM should be rounded up and locked up.
Yikes! That’s even more serious sounding.
Things there must be getting awfully tense.
Banning MSNBC from the building still leaves them the opportunity of following/intimidating the jury outside of the building…
NBC & MSNBC are owned by Comcast whose CEO/owner is Brian Roberts a prominent Democrat.
I need to find another rope.
Piano wire
Shades of Tony Soprano.
Thank you to the law enforcers were who noticed / caught the MSNBC guy trying to dox the jurors. Somebody did their job.
‘Bout @#$% time these people suffer some consequences for their actions.
@#$% straight Country!
He caught him running a red light. That is why he was pulled over.
LE probably thought they were Broken Lives Metastasize/ pantieFA kooks when they ran the red light.
Irene Byon just nuked her twatter. she is the nbc booking producer that supposedly ordered this guy to follow the jury.
I wonder if she has ties to China.
They all do
Irene Min Joo Byon
Sound about right?
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Jump-kick man’ who was filmed kicking Kyle Rittenhouse in the head before the teen shot at him is revealed as a career criminal with an open domestic violence charge for ‘throwing his girlfriend to the ground and attacking her’
18 November 2021
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html
Maurice Freeland, 39, has admitted that he was the one who kicked Rittenhouse in the head–
FTA this creep is out on ‘bond’. Per above the amount shows zero. No money guarantee for his release?
And is he back behind bars now?
Kamala will spring him outta the pokey. She did it plenty in Summer 2020.
Red State has a piece right now saying that Freeland said he contacted DA’s office, offered to testify but wanted immunity and DA chose not to take him up on the offer. But one count being charged was 1st degree recklessly endangering safety with respect to the shot fired at him, so if they knew who he was and didn’t share that with the defense or allow them the opportunity to examine him that seems WAAAAY over the line into prosecutorial misconduct. Egregious. What in the hell is going on with this case?
Andrew Miller
@ShaniquaJacks
Irene Byon holds record for wiping every social media account
10:21 AM · Nov 18, 2021
She cancelled herself.
If the judge gets the sniffles, a flat soda, or trips on a blade of grass, we know where to look.
We can ask her friends and associates if they have any leads on where she went if she skips the country.
MSNBC PRODUCER ORDERED A JOURNO TO TRY AND DOXX THE JURY BY FOLLOWING THEM
JOURNO BUSTED FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATION WHILE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE BUS THAT TAKES THE JURORS AWAY
IRENE BYON
ARCHIVES OF HER SOCIALS AND RELEVANT MEDIA, SHE’S DELETING EVERYTHING, SAVE IT AND SPREAD IT
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NBC just confirmed that Morrison is their employee. If NBC tries to say he acted outside of his assigned duties, I’d bet Morrison has some text messages from Irene Byon to refute that.
Heh.
And the FBI is invading their offices, and confiscating their computers, phones, etc? NEVER!
I hear they did raid the offices of Rep. Lauren Boebart’s campaign manager yesterday, though.
MSNBC trying to create news.
Leak the location then set up cameras to capture the ensuing juror mayhem live.
interesting live shots in the TH intro. Looks like a guy with a dog walking around with a bag that might have a gun in it.
More reports there than protestors.
People claiming to be press are not. What a joke.
Or those claiming to be ‘medics’
Where you going with that? Be careful.
Should have said EMT.
The scumbag Kyle shot. Many antifa/BLM scum pose as medics.
You seem to be unaware of WHO the actual Press are. WE the PEOPLE ARE the Press. There is NO such Law, Regulation or governing body that issue Press Credentials, those are just BS ID’s given by their Employer.
The 1st amendment makes us all press, and plenty SCOTUS and Fed Circuit and Appellate Courts case law that backs that up.
So, your lack of education is a joke.
Are there a couple of jurors who lied about their support for antifa and BLM? This should have been over Monday at the latest. Now more scum can ooze in to create mayhem.
Ooooo…MSNBC banned, big deal.
What about the direct threats by celebrities, ALL media MSM, BLM and ANTIFA to attack the jury members and burn down the city???
What about at least 2 members of the US Congress (Maxine Waters and Cory Bush) issuing threats and inciting violence by declaring guilt??
What about the President of the US declaring the defendant to be a terrorist??
What about CNN and ABC, allowing prosecution witnesses to change their testimony live on TV during interviews??
Paint me unimpressed.
And the DOJ and the FBI do nothing about these threats.
From what I read MSNBC was chasing the bus and the judge threw them under it ?
Jump Kick Man was out on bond the night he was there… and such a pleasant man he is, not.
‘Jump-kick man’ who was filmed kicking Kyle Rittenhouse in the head is revealed | Daily Mail Online
Been watching Right Side Broadcasting in front of the courthouse. Doesn’t seem to many protesters at all, and the humorous thing is of the 5 or 6 BLM protestors I saw, only one was black. Seems to be more people out there standing with Kyle.
It is 34° and windy in Kenosha right now, thus it feels like 22°.
Too chilly for cold-blooded protesters/potential rioters.
juror using same words as prosecutors
I think it’s a function called Zoom.!.
I think the foreperson would have written the note.
Strong speculation that the foreperson is a Karen. Would explain a lot
How in the heck can I read that ittsy, bittsy, teenie weenie print!?!?? ?
Bigger picture of jury request
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-verdict-watch-day-3-jury-focusing-in-on-controversial-drone-video-provocation-issue/
Cool. Thx.
Lets face it.. There is not gonna be a not guilty verdict… I pray the Judge does the right thing
If there’s no guilty verdict, the judge doesn’t have to do the right thing.
It is by no means a certainty there will be no guilty verdict. A compromise verdict – guilty on one or more lesser charge – is a possibility. You have to take account that people see things not how we see them.
If it’s anything other than a not guilty verdict, it’s a travesty of justice.
They can only drop to a lesser charge, if they, first, all agree it wasn’t self-defense. Self-Defense can’t apply to the 1st highest charge, then not applied to the next 2nd lesser charge. Thirdly, A compromise verdict is against everything Jurors are legally bound and responsible to do. Verdicts cannot be a compromise.
No way. If he nullifies a guilty verdict the left will go after him. The jury is probably terrified by now.
Let’s be clear on one thing: Rittenhouse may have been manipulated by someone(s). It simply was never a wise decision to show up with an AR…any weapon really…under the circumstances. Unreported is the background that there have been others, however honorably motivated, who have also been showing up, armed, and positioning themselves on the rooftops. Ask a law enforcement person what the protocol is under riot conditions. You’ll find out it is the first person who shoots and injures LE is taken out – vigilantes/armed good citizens exacerbate the problem. LE worry more about vigilantes than they do rioters. Ask one some time. I agree that Rittenhouse acted in self defense. But he never should have shown up armed. Ask any LE official.
sure we will all hide out until they are at our doors
LE was watching the destruction
Lay of the DMT before posting, ol chap. There were HUNDREDS of paid agitators there with weapons. LE didn’t stop ANYTHING.
Let’s be clear on one thing.
Had law enforcement done their job, there would be no need for Rittenhouse to show up.
The fact that armed citizens had to show up is a failure of law enforcement.
Law enforcement do not like to be shown as failures. How do we knw they were failures? Because the night before the city burnt down.
This is happening all over the country in one form or another.
The Po-Po and ambulances are taking way more time to get to the scene of a crime or an accident.
Therefore, we have to be ready to protect ourselves.
The Left hates us for it, and for the fact that they themselves may get killed while perpetrating their crimes on us. Kyle can’t be found innocent in their eyes ’cause it validates that scum committing violent crime should be put down.
Why ask Law Enforcement they were standing down , watching it burn ,which made showing up armed to protect your community a viable idea.
Have you watched all the trial testimony?
Trial testimony validates an aspect of what you’re saying, but really it paints Kyle as a “wingman.” Meaning, he doesn’t self-initiate, but he follows the lead of a stronger personality.
The fact you wrote the sentence “shown up armed” indicates you didn’t watched the trial. It indicates uninformed bias. Many, many people out there “showed up armed” – including the one whose bicep was vaporized (he lied to the police about being armed, and wasn’t charged with anything) — as well as many others who were armed with guns, and with items just as lethal, such as chains, skateboards, rocks and bricks. Not to mention the means carry out arson.
I believe any LE official would say people in general shouldn’t show up to “protests” armed. If rioters had heeded that, there wouldn’t be city blocks on fire, which is a huge threat to human life and safety.
Good thing it was all on “drone”. The true story would be lost otherwise.
The amateur drone video didn’t add anything to the case except allow the persecution to fabricate evidence and a “provocation” out of thin air
LE was otherwise engaged so your reasoning may be valid in perfect conditions, they were not there.
remember that he was attacked because he was putting out the protester’s fires. Without his gun he may well have been killed by them.
it would be hard to ask any LE b/c there weren’t any around. It was up to the citizens to protect themselves and their property. If LE doesn’t like it, then they can show up.
Law enforcement was doing nothing that night other than allowing arson and violence. Law enforcement isn’t on our side and never has been. They do whatever the radical leftists in charge tell them to do. If Kyle hadn’t been armed he may well have been dead. Wake up.
First off, YOU bought into the narrative. Kyle and all the others there, simply to protect property, WHICH IS LEGAL TO DO, are NOT vigilantes! The Rioters ARE the vigilantes. It was VERY wise to bring a gun to a gunfight. Phillip Jeffreys isn’t your name. Your real name is Casper Milquetoast
How would you feel about paying taxes to fund LE, and LE sits on their asses while Democrat terrorist groups burn your business and wreck your property while the FBI is steering the terrorists? Was their a local democrat party opffice or any demo0crap politicans office in Kenosha? Did they get burned and looted/destroyed or were they untouched?
I’d like to know the answers to #’s 2 and 3.
The idea was to stand around the building and on the roof. The weapons were deter rioters from coming on the property to do mischief. This worked perfectly
NBC statement:
“While the traffic violation took place near the jury van, the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations, and never photographed or intended to photograph them.”
And I guess there were some “STFU and we’ll pay your traffic fine for running the red light” communications to the “freelancer.”
But just happened to be there ??
Kinda like someone wearing all black with a full black mask (not the protect you from Covid kind), screw driver, hammer, lock pick kit just happened to be in the neighborhood – they never intended to break into any home, just out for a drive
That needs to make a comeback.
Doesn’t say that the freelancer didn’t intend to follow them home, and identify them from their address.
Here come my cynical observations for the day – would love to be persuaded toward a better view.
First, the fact that this judge hasn’t called a mistrial with prejudice already means he’s EXTREMELY unlikely to fix this, ever.
By fix this, I mean two scenarios:
(1) Jury hangs. In that case, Judge has a mistrial from the jury, and I believe the cowardice he’s shown so far means he’s very unlikely to add “with prejudice” at that point.
(#1 I think is the best we can hope for at this point, more in a sec)
(2) Jury comes back with a COMPROMISE verdict, meaning Kyle guilty of one or more lesser charges (more on that in a sec), in which case I think there’s close to ZERO chance the judge would rule for defense for any mistrial at that point. If he’s a coward now, he’ll be a coward then.
Re the judge, in sum, I don’t agree with those who see him being spineless now, but think he’s only waiting to intervene later if he “has to.” That’s not how it works. A scenario where he “has to” is one where the pressure will be even MORE intense than it is now, because the jury has already weighed in. The judge has shown he knows it’s a mistrial and won’t call it. That’s all we need to know. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Re compromise verdict — some believe there’s no way he’ll be found guilty on anything, because all it takes is one person to hold the line. I hope so, but have no confidence. “Compromise” means one or more lesser charges, and the logic toward this outcome can become overwhelming as time goes on. Just look at how the prosecution has run rough shod over the judge by simply continuing to talk, getting its way even when the judge acknowledges their bad faith. The holdouts on the jury could be doing that to people in the room. It ALL depends on temperament at this point. Some temperaments will cave. We have to pray that won’t take hold over the whole jury.
All this said, I think we could still get acquittal, but I’d downgrade to maybe 25%. I fear that a compromise verdict on at least one charge is about as likely as hung jury. Compromise verdict is really a worse case scenario for Kyle. With any guilty verdict, the legal presumption of innocence flips for all future proceedings. The judge has no appreciation of how devastating this would be for Kyle.
I would SO love to see full acquittals, or see this judge come back with motion to dismiss with prejudice. But reading the situation objectively, I am afraid for Kyle. I’d be relieved with a hung jury.
I’ve been guessing a hung jury because of one or more jurors who see all the shootings in self-defense and will not convict on anything. The judge will likely enter mistrial without prejudice (the usual order with a mistrial).
The one thing I have been speculating about (and it is speculation), is what the DA (Binger’s and Kraus’ boss) is going to do. The prosecution live witnesses testimony fell apart, the jump-kick man has been identified, and a better resolution of the drone video is available. I don’t discount a second prosecution just because of politics, but the prosecution wouldn’t have much of a case, unless it comes up with new evidence.
Re speculation – interesting. The other day, Binger issued a press statement saying he wouldn’t be making any statement after the outcome. The Rekieta law panel thought this was odd. I wondered along the same lines with you — whether it has to do with internal conversations in the DA’s office re whether to retry the case. Let’s say it’s hung – Binger can’t come out wailing if his office doesn’t back a retrial. So I took the planned silence to indicate his office hasn’t greenlit a retrial, at least yet.
Re hung jury – I hope you’re right! Looking at group dynamics, when a strong personality bullies others, usually there’s at least one or two who will react by digging in more in opposition. So that goes with your view. At this point I have no faith that Kyle isn’t the most unlucky defendant in the world!
If there was a re-trial, any sane DA would not let the two doofuses who tried this case any where near it.
Sad thing about a hung jury and no re-trial is that Kyle is never exonerated by being officially declared “not guilty.” Don’t know if the defense could get any kind of official statement out of the DA for the lack of a re-trial, but I’d hate to have this hanging over the poor kid’s head all his life.
How long would the DA have to decide? At some point, does the ability to retry expire?
I don’t know how long the DA would have to notify the defendant of his intent to re-try. The actual trial date would likely depend on the judge’s schedule.
Had a similar case in Hawaii (state dept security guy shot a guy in a bar fight in Waikiki — played in the press as mainland haole killing local guy). Murder trial in 2013 resulted in hung jury. New trial on manslaughter in 2014 resulted in hung jury, and judge ruled a new trial could only be on assault. Current prosecutor (elected 2020) came out yesterday to say he wouldn’t try a third trial.
There is no statute of limitations on murder. Unless the decision is with prejudice, they could choose to retry at their leisure. Whether they would, barring new, more damning evidence? Who knows?
I don’t see how anything good can come of this revelation (the CRS). Feels like there is a railroading going on behind closed doors.
The FBLie couldn’t assassinate Kyle at the riot, so they’ll kill him through the legal process. Who is Kyle? What does he know? Who does he know? Why this kid? Is he related to some bigshot the Lie wants to control?
Re CRS – Robert Barnes predicted that if it’s not a hung jury, we’ll se a verdict late today or tomorrow morning, which would have to mean acquittal or compromise. FWIW, he thought if a verdict comes in it will be acquittal (like commenter Wethal, he believes at least one juror will prevent a conviction). Barnes predicted if it doesn’t come in late today or tomorrow morning, they’ll either call a hung jury by the end of Friday, or let it go to next week but in no case past Thanksgiving.
If I were the judge, I wouldn’t let this circus go past the weekend. I’d say give me a verdict by Friday or you’re done. But the judge has shown NO awareness that he can and should bring to discipline to this s**t show.
I don’t know if anyone here read Dorothy Sayers’ mysteries, but she wrote one in which a stubborn juror who wouldn’t convict ends up saving an innocent woman’s life – Strong Poison.
The stubborn juror is an elderly and very religious spinster who isn’t convinced by the evidence, sticks to her principles despite a lot of bullying in the jury room (when one juror says they’re way past dinner time, she responds that her faith has trained her to fasting and she’ll do it in a good cause). Her name is Miss Climpson, and the time before the re-trial is when Sayer’s detective finds out who the real murderer is.
I’ve been praying for one or more Miss Climpsons.
By Jove, I do enjoy her Lord Peter Wimsey series!
unfortunately in the real world the obstinate old women are mostly enablers of BLM, especially in places like kenosha. Stubborn and self opinionated wastes of oxygen. Like the jury foreperson.
Do we know who the foreperson is? A Karen?
The 21st Century “Miss Climpsons” I was thinking of might be working class, middle class, with hunters or gun owners in the family, and possibly a teenage son or nephew. While the jurors might think Kyle should have stayed away, they’re not going to ruin a kid’s life because low-life lefties tried to kill him.
Barnes thinks the foreperson is the head Karen. He thinks this based on the the exchange we heard between a juror and the judge yesterday, where a female juror quite confidently retorted to the judge, on mic, “how would you know if we sat in your chair?” (this was when they were going to be left in the court room alone to watch videos)
Barnes speculated that someone speaking directly to the judge would only be the foreperson. And from the quip, guessed it was a head Karen.
I also was taken aback by the quip. The voice sounded very … entitled. What juror talks to a judge that way?
So I think there’s a decent chance we have a Karen as foreperson.
That said, nothing would make me dig in MORE than going against a Karen. The typical Karen is a good bully, and can persuade decent people, but Karens lack the self-awareness and sophistication to persuade strong personalities who disagree with them. What they’re used to doing is relying on authority to bat those down. The browbeat, but when all else fails, call in the rules or the authority who’s conveniently always on their side. The upshot is, they can’t persuade true opposition because they’ve never had to. In a jury room, they have to get AGREEMENT of EVERY single person. They can’t call in the enforcer. A Karen will devolve to shouting down the person they can’t bully, and it only backfires.
A strong opposition – even one person – is a Karen’s achilles heel, and what I’m hoping for.
He speculated she was a woman from the “aristocracy” of Kenosha, an old “Yankee family” that had been there since the town was founded, essentially, a Karen who looks down her nose at blue collar Kenoshans.
If so, she had someone else write the request as that handwriting is not that of an older woman.
He felt she would politically unaligned with ordinary people.
My feeling is she dislikes the idea of working folks carrying guns. Period. IOWs, she perceives herself as one of the Elites we can’t stand.
I’m one of those old women you are talking about. NOTHING would make me dig in my heels more than a stupid Karen.
the POI’s were marked by the prosecutors. Unfair.
Yesterday in an interview Barnes thought she was a retired professor or at least one of the Karens was retired professor who saw to it she became the foreperson in order to steer things.
I think they are plants by the gov’t. on the jury.
I read the People’s Pundit’s reasoning for the writer of the note being a “red authoritarian.” Her wording doesn’t say that to me. I see that kind of note taking following business meetings. Saying ‘please’ is polite, not acquiescence to authority. . The rest reads sorta like action items.
She may be a pushy lib or whatever but I don’t see that in her notes.
Agree. “Please” is what pushy bosses have been trained to say at the front of their list of instructions.
What I get from the style is entitlement.
Biggest giveaway is last sentence: “Well request when ready.”
That’s a control freak. No need to say that. Means she feels the need to instruct the court NOT just to deliver the requested items, but that “we” (meaning SHE) will request the moment she wants them.
In the writer’s mind, it’s her process now. Entitlement.
I suspect an authoritarian would appoint another juror to do the writing. It’s clearly a woman’s writing.
Your thinking is not that one obstinate juror, or two, wants to convict and the other 10 or 11 think he’s innocent? You are thinking it’s the 10 or 11 that want to convict?
I’d guess the one or two want to convict – maybe not on all counts, but on something.
No, the thinking of Barnes is that most want to acquit and the main Karen might have 2/3 “friends” also Karens.
Love Dorothy Sayers.
Appears that the forewomen of the jury is a “red authoritarian” personality type and this does not bode well for Kyle.
She could stop an acquittal, but she could also annoy some other jurors enough that they would not vote to convict on any charge.
I would also add these types of people are often females who feel their authority is not respected because of their gender, thus their insecurity about that often makes them heavy-handed and over-the-top domineering to compensate. In my experience, such people do eventually inspire revolt against them because they are incapable of reigning in their obnoxiousness.
I agree!
How did someone obtain that jury request?
Interesting detail. Doesn’t look good.
At Eric’s link above, see the juror request. Intense focus one the equivalent of an NFL replay event: did the receiver have possession of the ball (was it bobbling or not) before he stepped out of bounds? Referee made the call on the spot, but the instant replay team is going to spend half an hour analyzing it.
Well, here’s how it works.
If you can’t make up your mind real time on the first viewing, then you have forfeited your right to second guess the scene and intent of the accused party. The hurdle of conviction is reasonable doubt. If you can’t see clearly, you are in doubt. Therefore, quit and desist.
Or, Red Karen is trying to find something , anything to justify the outcome she WANTS not necessarily the outcome that’s correct.
Or maybe they need a closer look with a better video.
Anthony Chacon also facing bail jumping charges, meaning he has a prior criminal record
Published 4 hours ago
The 20-year-old male suspect, Anthony Chacon, has been charged with felony bail jumping, misdemeanor bail jumping, battery, resisting and disorderly conduct, Sgt. David Wright, a spokesman for the Kenosha Sheriff’s Department, confirmed to Fox News Digital.
A Fox News Digital reporter on Wednesday witnessed Chacon, who was wearing a “F— Kyle” black T-shirt, body-slamming a reporter, attacking a counter-protester and slapping multiple cameras before being arrested.
A second suspect arrested Wednesday, 34-year-old Shaquita Cornelious, is facing charges of resisting, disorderly conduct, and possession of marijuana, Wright added.
Fox News examined what appears to be Cornelious’ Facebook page, where she describes herself as the co-chairman of the Black Lives Matter of Lake County, Illinois.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-rittenhouse-protestor-body-slams-reporter-arrested-battery
Gross. They’re disgusting. ?
Your racism is showing ,care to clarify?
Your racism is showing if you think she made a racist comment.
She said nothing about the color of ‘they’, but you inferred it?
You are the one who is the racist, obviously…unless YOU care to clarify.
See how easy that was to switch right around. Don’t use your racist crap around here.
You didn’t switch anything you just went around in a circle saying nothing, the point is she made a blanket comment saying “they’re” , moreover you sound like binger
They’re. They are. The two of them. A little voluntary cognitive dissonance on your part perhaps? Or just a pronouncement of your intent to target thought criminals who think out against the regime?
I don’t smell any racism in that comment
care to clarify?
How about “he’s” disgusting” what’s up with “they’re” disgusting,?
Reading the post, it appears one was arrested and there’s another suspect, so “they’re” applies here, correct? Now, to really blow your mind, I hope these THUGS get sent away for a long time.
Oh well I’m not losing any sleep over it ,
Priors – must be a requirement for a BLM/antifa member.
Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) Tweeted:
Footage of a violent assault on the SEPTA train in Philadelphia today: https://t.co/pBulJ0rbZt https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1461189507617673217?s=20
**gasp** THEY CROSSED TEH STATE LINES
https://mobile.twitter.com/brithume/status/1461438239772917767
This guy’s a Jekyll and Hyde isn’t he?
Another dark thought for the day.
Whadya want to bet democrats start a campaign to end the unanimity requirement for jury verdicts.
Karens get far by bullying, but they can’t persuade true opposition. Democrats need to end unanimous juries, just like they need to blow up the electoral college and use all mail-in ballots.
That would have to be changed by the Wisconsin legislature.
I would like for a Karen to try and make me conform to her crappy ways. Karen please, just please try to interfere with my ways.
Typically speaking, the longer it takes the jury to deliberate the more likely there’s going to be a not guilty verdict.
Trying to tune out the outside noise and worries.
Like the Stockholm Syndrome, they grow to become intimate with the object of their attention.
How can they stand back and make a summary judgment about the questions before them now that they have given nth degree nuance to every single facet of every question put before them?
They can’t.
So, now that they are intimately familiar with every granule of evidence and their considerations, they now have a “nuanced” worldview of the entire proceedings. They probably cannot find it within themselves to wash away the whole enchilada with a clear statement of not guilty, because there are hooks and snags that they have allowed themselves to get bound to.
Again, no different that an NFL instant replay that surpasses 20 minutes of review time. The decider will never see it as a clear, snap call but rather an excrutiating dive into pixelology and what is the definition of the edge of the edge of a line?
A Karen will devolve into such navel gazing concepts whereas a veteran police officer having been through the wringer of taking a life will know instinctively that the MOMENT will induce REFLEX. Conscious deliberation does not ensue in the MOMENT. Therefore, it cannot be studied for three days to arrive at any conclusion. A Karen or a Mr. Soyboy does not know this from any kind of experience–certainly not first hand. Thus, such being jurors, the defendant is at the mercy of the naive.
“The activity of the CRS is rarely discussed, but essentially the agency is authorized to reach into any court proceeding, local, state or federal, and modify/guide the proceedings under the auspices of maintaining national racial harmony.”
The DOJ has also gerrymandered districts in the south to ensure the election of black representatives. I suppose this too is in the interests of maintaining racial harmony.
I find it very interesting that BLM and Antifa now agree with us that not only Black Lives Matter but “All Lives Matter”. ?
What other interest could they possibly have? /S
Hot take:
Request from jury to break early today is good news for Kyle. Holdouts on BOTH sides won’t relent, pointing toward hung jury.
If the foreperson is a Karen, breaking early (because she’s pissed everyone off) and redoubling her efforts tomorrow is her last gasp.
She’ll probably go home and scare up some onerous process to walk everyone through tomorrow. The judge should set a deadline. But I don’t think he’ll do jack s**t until it’s Wednesday and he’s thinking of his own Thanksgiving.
Oh good lord the Judge is granting a request from the foreperson to take the instructions home ….. he’s clueless. She’s working out her game plan.
Jury done for the day per sources on Twitter.
It would not surprise me in the slightest if the jury holdouts are merely waiting for the go-ahead as the protestors haven’t been extreme enough yet. They’ll get better chaos with a verdict on a Friday night
The judge just let the FOREPERSON KAREN take the jury instructions home. She is refusing to leave without a guilty on something. She’s going to study and construct her arguments tonight.
I DID NOT THINK I COULD GET ANY ANGRIER. THIS JUDGE IS CLUELESS.
I hope if she starts out tomorrow with the words, “The correct meaning of ______ is”, and one of the other jurors reports her for looking stuff up on the internet, and gets her kicked off the jury.
That would mean a new juror and deliberations starting all over again, but it might be worth it to get rid of a Karen.
I’m trying to stay positive here. It seems pretty clear, she was losing and thought her time was better spent leaving the rubes behind so she could go home and work out her arguments. One inference is that she’s lost them on the facts, so she’s trying to twist the rules *just so* in order to wrench out a conviction on something. That it apparently hasn’t worked so far gives me hope.
STILL. I can’t believe this judge. He needs to stop smiling and joking and get a freaking clue.
Karens are so lacking in self-awareness that they don’t get how annoying they are or when they have absolutely gone too far and lost any influence over the individuals they want to influence.
I KNOW you are right. I’m probably losing my you-know-what right now because my every instinct is to take them down. I have to remind myself, if I feel this way, so do at least a few jurors.
I’ve seen Karens run rough shod over a process. But juries may be the last place on earth that ONE person can stand in their way.
They have been alone together for 21 hours now, and their personalities are really coming out. If Karen is very annoying, and others are fed up with her, it’s a deadlock (which I’d take at this point).
I expect Karen is going to do a Ricky Ricardo (from “I Love Lucy” for the youngsters present), and say in a condescending manner, “Lucy, let me ‘splain it to you.”
The more I think of it, there will be at least ONE juror, probably several, who will be seething tonight that she wanted and was allowed to take the instructions home. You’re right, she wouldn’t have to do it if she weren’t already annoying people. So, they’re at home imagining the oozing condescension she’ll show up with tomorrow. Plus, it probably threw a wet rag on the hope of being done by weekend — which will also piss people off. Karens are happy to do this til the cows come home; normal people, not so much.
Wethal your focus on the counter-Karens is keeping me mentally off the cliff!
It’s probably royally pissed off at least a few jurors that she asked and was granted permission to take the instructions home and keep deliberating by herself. Even if others can do it too, it feels heavy-handed, like she’s manipulating the rules, which feels unfair.
No way this one hold out Karen is going to flip the other 11
From your lips to God’s ears
Source please?
SORRY FOR THE CAPS I’M JUST BESIDE MYSELF.
I HATE THIS JUDGE. HE NEEDS TO STOP F–KING SMILING.
This is starting to feel like election night. Foolish “authorities” standby whistling dixie while evil predators just take what they want.
Something is very wrong. Some of these jurors must be Radical Leftists voting guilty. The verdict should have been not guilty once they got in the room.
This was a grievous mistake by the judge. Studying the instructions counts as “deliberating.” This juror asked to take them home, because now she can present herself as the “authority” on them tomorrow.
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Barnes: The worst possible juror for this case not only ended up on the jury, but is apparently the foreperson.
All because they didn’t do sufficient jury selection.
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I’m sure she quicky volunteered for the job.
I’m also sure she’s a plant.
We must accept the harsh truth that Kyle seeks justice in a land where Paul Ryan is considered a conservative. Lord have mercy.
Well you are correct that Kenosha was part of Lying Ryman’s district. Don’t think that toward the end many considered him a conservative. Initially he many have been considered more conservative than he really turned out to be.
I was thinking along the same lines of Rinos. Remember Mitt Romney’s selfie while marching with BLM? Any chance he is out front of the courthouse with his BLM friends?
Sorry, I misprinted my name. Should be Carolina Girl.
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I like it that Durham is photoshopped in the same pic. It just shows you any photo of video evidence can be tampered with.
I personally believe the jury is “hung” at this moment but the judge will not, IMHO, allow it this early in deliberations. This will go into next week unless something breaks tomorrow.
If the jury reports that it is deadlocked, and there is no point in continuing to deliberate, then he would probably have to declare a hung jury. If he asked them to go back and try a little longer, and some said that it wouldn’t change matters, that’s it.
Does anyone get to have a say other than the foreperson?
Probably. If one or more jurors tells the judge that they are deadlocked (without revealing how jurors are voting), and nothing any other juror can say will change their minds, there would be no point in further deliberation.
Any juror can get up and go out to the jury bailiff sitting outside the jury room, and say he wants to talk to the judge.
I think Karen might out herself by saying she just “looked up” some words. But the dictionary definition of a word is not always the legal definition (provocation, for example), and the judge is the one who’s supposed to clarify definitions for them, anyway.
My gut feeling w/ jury instructions is it’s more about linking pieces – like what provocation applies to – than word meaning. Kinda like a jury version of what the prosecution tried to do with the gun statute – deliberately argue for an incorrect statutory interpretation, based on the clunky clauses ,etc.
A Karen thinks she already knows what words mean. What she’d be frustrated about is not being able to piece together the different pieces exactly as she’d like to, because she can’t dedicate her whole focus to it during deliberations. She wants mastery of the pieces, the lay of the land.
Man I hope one of those hostage jurors begs the bailiff to get word to the judge they are done!
Does one think that there has been a rather inordinate number of hours of “reasoning” behind closed doors?
The threshold is beyond a reasonable doubt. Clearly, there is doubt. Pushing to four days may clear the doubt finally, but not at the threshold of reasonable.
Ask it this way: “Is he guilty without a doubt whatsoever of doing X?”
Clearly, no. So, it defaults to “some doubt?”, and the answer is yes. Thus, they are by definition unable to convict. Trying to discern in the span of an eon the theoretical intent of a mere moment is absurd. It quickly becomes overripe, never to be ripe again, for the person who devotes such effort to understanding something so evident.
Jimmy Dore puts Kyle Rittenhouse critics through Walk of Shame…
I’m praying for that poor kid and his family. He’s totally innocent of those charges, but I feel the longer the jury the deliberates the chances increase they’re going to come back with guilty on most if not all charges. I’m sure the jury must be aware of what they’re up against if they don’t come back with what the mob wants.
I find it immensely troubling that all vestiges of respect for the court and justice system are smeared, bashed and stomped on by the lying, corrupt talking heads. They’re nothing but jackals from hell doing satan’s bidding. People are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but not in today’s world run by demons.
I’ve been wondering if they’re waiting for the Antifa types to get bored and drift away to some other state to destroy someone else’s life.
If they wait another week the mob outside will be gone. Ice snow and wind will take them out. Gotta love mother nature.
Just in….Gaige Grosskreutz’s SECOND DUI received only two months after he attacked Kyle Rittenhouse DISMISSED DAYS BEFORE HE TESTIFIED in the Kyle Rittenhouse case..
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Prayers for NOT GUILTY
PRAYERS FOR HIS SAFETY AND HIS FAMILY