Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber as he was being attacked by a raging mob. Rittenhouse also fired on Gaige Grosskreutz as the attacker held a handgun toward him. Prosecutors and U.S. corporate media attempted to claim that Rittenhouse was a vigilante looking for a fight; however, the defense, and all video of the events, show all shootings were justifiable self-defense.
If the history of tracking the ¹DOJ-CRS results in a repeat of previous patterns within high-profile cases, the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict is likely to come today. Consider this an open discussion thread for the verdict or any activity in the trial.
¹The DOJ-CRS is the least known quasi-legislatively approved agency within the justice department. The CRS is the Community Relations Service, and is a very secret division within the DOJ civil rights unit. The activity of the CRS is rarely discussed, but essentially the agency is authorized to reach into any court proceeding, local, state or federal, and modify/guide the proceedings under the auspices of maintaining national racial harmony.
“The Community Relations Service (CRS), a component of the Department of Justice (DOJ), serves as “America’s Peacemaker” for communities in conflict by mediating disputes and enhancing community capacity to independently prevent and resolve future conflicts.” (read more)
An RSBN team is stationed in Kenosha today (November 18), to give updates on the Wisconsin v. Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Brings to mind this:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/
“A key operative in a Democratic scheme to send agitators to cause unrest at Donald Trump’s rallies has visited the White House 342 times since 2009, White House records show.
“Robert Creamer, who acted as a middle man between the Clinton campaign, the Democratic National Committee and “protesters” who tried — and succeeded — to provoke violence at Trump rallies met with President Obama during 47 of those 342 visits, according to White House records. Creamer’s last visit was in June 2016.”
Hiring agitators, “initiating the conflict”, “starting confrontations”…
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/18/undercover-video-shows-democrats-saying-they-hire-/
“The first video shows Democratic strategists discussing how they hire agitators — including union members, homeless people and the mentally ill — to incite violence by provoking Trump supporters on camera at campaign stops.”
“Mr. Foval, who has worked for the George Soros-funded People for the American Way, said his paid agitators fueled a Chicago protest in March that forced the Trump campaign to cancel its event.
““They’re starting confrontations in the line, right?” said Mr. Foval. “They’re not starting confrontations in the rally. Because once they’re inside the rally, they’re under Secret Service’s control. When they’re outside the rally, the media will cover it no matter where it happens. The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic.””
Do you think Soros’s DAs released all those prisoners to recruit from?
I remember this name from back in the day.
This and things like it should be national news. No one puts it out and if you try to show it to people? They just go “Idunno….” and blow it off. This is huge, eye-opening information.
Creamer is one of those guys who belongs in prison.
According to The Chicago Tribune, Creamer has a criminal history; in 2006, “he was sentenced to five months in federal prison for bank fraud and a tax violation,” said the Tribune. RedState says Creamer is a convicted felon. The Tribune said the conviction involved a “check-kiting scheme to keep afloat an Illinois consumer group he had led”.
His wife is Dem Congress Critter Jan Sahakowsky from Skokie, IL.
Another satanic Soviet-Bolshjevik like Walensky?
They are two of a kind cut from the same cloth. They work well with prickster and lighthead
Creamer was one of those caught on Project Veritas revealing videos. An agitator and facilitator.
Wasn’t he the creep in Buffalo who threw himself onto the pavement next to a cop, with fake blood pooling under his head?
No, that was a different demonrat wackjob.
Recall how the GOP, including Cruz, blamed Trump for the leftist-instigated violence. The GOP just will not stand up to violence by the left.
At least 2 of these creeps are members of the Democrat-Marxist “People’s Revolution” Possibly FBI anarchist fronted group
Nobody joins political groups, except the FBI.
-That Loudmouth Troublemaker Is An FBI Snitch
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/06/21/that-loudmouth-troublemaker-is-an-fbi-snitch-n2591233
All three are the kind of filth Antifa/BLM recruits.
Like ‘Jacob Schiff’ in Dark Knight:
It’s good to remember that, maybe, Kyle didn’t even know about their past. He shot them in self defense.
I’m glad they weren’t black.
My thoughts also. Thank goodness Kyle missed “jump kick man”.
People have to stop thinking like that. No matter what color he would have been right. Conservatives are so afraid of the race discussion and that’s why we always lose it. All communists should be eliminated if we want this country back.
Marcus Garvey said he walked into a NAACP office in NY and there was not a single Black person it!
None of this matters because none of these perpetraitors were defendents in this case.
One diverse truth about the new heroes of the democrat party and their Brown Shirt street thugs…they are ALL felons.
Engaging in mid-reading here. I think the biggest question for jurors will be whether Rittenhouse was justified in shooting Rosenbaum (the first guy). To me, he was. But I think the defense didn’t do a great job on this, and then you have the whole video thing.
I have read some anaylsis that the judge is hoping the jury finds not guilty so he doesn’t have to deal with the video, but that if they find guilty he might intervene. I thought mistrial with prejudice had to happen prior to a verdict? Or is that a thing that can happen in Wisconsin?
Yet, the video does NOT show Kyle with a rifle pointed at Rosenbaum.
It seems all the prosecutor did was circle a guy that’s supposed to be Kyle and then say, “See, you can see him here pointing the rifle at Rosenbaum.
It shows no such thing.
As in the Chauvin case, videos are not a substitute for rational arguments. And they can be altered.
After a jury votes to convict, the defendant can file a motion to set aside the verdict. If granted (very rare), it’s not the same as acquittal, which is final. The prosecution can appeal the judge’s decision. If the appeal is granted, the jury verdict is reinstated.
There are unusual circumstances that may justify setting aside a guilty verdict. Namely, juror intimidation. Already one biased juror outted. 5th amendment violation by prosecution.
It can get confusing for we civilians.
I think the mistrials can be ruled on prior to a verdict being rendered.
After, the judge has the JNOV option, coming from the Latin basically judgment notwithstanding of the verdict, but I believe that is appealable by either side, as compared to, forex, a judgement of mistrial with prejudice before verdict which would not be appealable.
If anything, the Rittenhouse trial has been a learning experience on many levels. Also, where one lives matters. Laws vary markedly from state to state. Still, good information.
Here’s some places to start:
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/1997/statutes/statutes/940/01
https://law.justia.com/constitution/wisconsin/article-i/section-8/
I hope this resonates as much with you as it did me! Would anyone put this beyond our feckless Federal Bureau of Incompetence?
Was Kenosha a Failed Hit?
AC postulates that Kyle Rittenhouse was supposed to be the victim of a targeted assassination, as was clearly the case in the murder of Aaron Danielson in Portland.
Now suppose the riot was a complex intel operation, being run from an underground command center many miles away, by intel professionals watching events live on their TV screens, like feeds from numerous “streamers” like Gaige who were running around with their phones, streaming the riot. Suppose that command center was giving orders to their operatives on the ground in the riot through hidden earpieces, using bounced signals from locally positioned repeaters brought in by “Antifa” commanders. Imagine the plan for that night was to make an example out of some patriot who was armed, to counter the images of armed patriots in body armor protesting the Cabal, and make those guys look less scary. Suppose that command center picked Kyle out of the video streams during the early moments of the riot, because he was clearly young, out of shape, naive to how things worked, and looked like a Cherry these seasoned Cabal assets could roll over.
In the trial we learned, that at just the wrong moment, whoever was protecting the CarSource suddenly bailed with no explanation as the crowd moved in (the defense said it in closing). Then, one of the “leaders” of the armed patriots asked 17 year old Kyle to go down there to take the position, and at the same moment, Kyle’s “buddy” in the buddy system the patriots were using, who had been assigned to him earlier (a forty something Army vet), suddenly disappeared inexplicably from the side of the 17 year old kid he should have felt responsible for. So Kyle was suddenly alone and could not find him, just as the order to head to CarSource came in. So Kyle went toward the CarSource alone on orders, where Joseph Rosenbaum was hiding behind a car waiting, and where the FBI had just moved its overhead drone and aviation units to that location to record everything that was about to happen.
What Cabal didn’t know was Kyle was under God’s protection, and just happened to be extra-sharp and highly cool under fire as well. So he smokes two Cabal protesters and cripples a third, all clearly in compliance with all legal strictures, before successfully exfiling and getting to safety.
The evidence exposed during the trial does make it appear as if Rittenhouse was selected and set up to be a sacrificial lamb, only he unexpectedly turned out to be a skilled young warrior capable of defeating the antifa ambush team by himself.
And while it is very hard to believe that the USA might have already entered the early stages of a “Bloody Kansas” era, or that Federal agencies are actively targeting young Americans on American soil, unfortunately, that is what the evidence presently suggests.
The real surprise is that some enterprising propagandist hasn’t tried to claim that Kyle Rittenhouse was a secret Spetsnaz agent in an attempt to justify declaring war on Russia.
DISCUSS ON SG
Posted on November 16, 2021 by VD
https://voxday.net/2021/11/16/was-kenosha-a-failed-hit/
A real investigation would try to contact those other parties. Their response to queries would be useful and telling one way or another.
Did the FBI infiltrate the defense side? POSSIBLE. We know that’s clearly in the FBI’s MO. And it would explain why the FBI was monitoring the situation.
I believe the “People’s Revolution” is a Democrat-Marxist FBI front group
WOW!
Pre 2016 id say that such a conspiracy theory is wild-eyed nonsense.
But now id say, very possible.
Compare to Ashlee babbit shooting on jan 6.
Remember if they’d have killed rittenhouse they’d have then turned around and blamed the proud boys or whomever for instigating it. Bringing guns to a protest etc.
Proud Boys are also a FBI steered group. Hegelian Dialectics.
That is consist with the false flags the intel community have been pulling.
It is NOT at all “very hard to believe that the USA might have already entered the …………………
Often the simplest explanation is the truth.
There was a gang of Antifa thugs moving and causing trouble, lighting fires, smashing anything they could, because that is “fun” for thugs. They were taking advantage of the chaos to cause as much trouble as possible.
Enter Kyle Rittenhouse, attempting to do good but naive about Antifa and their tactics. Kyle and the thugs bumped into each others objectives and the thugs without even thinking decided to retaliate for Kyle ruining some of their “fun”. The planning was basically “Who is this guy? Let’s get him”. The thugs working as a pack focused on Kyle and likely had no thoughts that Kyle would fire on them. They likely saw him as a feeble, easy target and found out they were wrong.
Sorry, but I just can’t go with your conspiracy without some evidence. Sure, it’s possible, but that doesn’t make it so. I wouldn’t put it past the left but again, without evidence, you’re just falling for the real conspiracy which is to paint the right as a bunch of conspiracy kooks. Be a skeptic and open your mind to actual facts. The left is a bunch of incompetent radical angry thugs that really can’t manage anything complex. What they do well is mob attack tactics, lie, and cover up, because they know they have no coherent logical argument to convince people of their point of view.
read the time magazine expose on the 2020 election and how the Dems controlled whether there would be riots or not.
The Dem party controls Antifa and BLM and uses them as their brown shirts. They turn on and off the violence like a faucet.
I wonder where the different drone camera angles / resolution versions come from. Seems to be a professional operator for sure.
First of all, I don’t have to prove anything. All I did was share an interesting piece from Vox…and I included the link. I did not write this piece.
Secondly, you neglected to take into account all the times our FBI has fumbled and bumbled a case. If you need to be reminded of them, Victor Davis Hansen recounts many of the FBI’s problems in this article: https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/17/can-the-fbi-be-salvaged/
Well they did drive the terrorist assassins to Garland Texas to dispense with Geller and Spencer.
David v Goliath.
Kyle being alive is nothing short of a miracle.
Out of the whole riot, the drone was right where it was supposed to be.
In the end.. The main focus should be on breaking down every single item this judge has allowed these criminal prosecutors to get away with without more than stern words reserved for a toddler.
His legacy should be documented everywhere and for the rest of time as an example of why the judicial branch of this republic has become a failed institution.
He is a mockery of this country, our courts and the institutions. Any praise or adulation shows those who have much more waking up to do.
I disagree. I believe the Judge has been fair and prudent. He’s been trying to get the Defense to do a better job practically handing them the arguments.
Do not fault the Judge and they have a lot of control. I believe he believes the best outcome is a full Acquittal by the Jury, but will step in with a directed verdict of Mistrial with Prejudice if necessary.
This is a Judge who appears to trying to uphold the judicial process and not undermine it.
What is fair? If I break the rules, withhold evidence from the defense and even admit doctored evidence via handbrake modification of the drone footage for example. Meanwhile you claim the judge allowing this is fair? Does the defense get their ball moved to the other end of the field? Do they get some kind of advantage or admission by the prosecution.
Again… What is fair? If the prosecution gets to play their lies and games of omission without fear of their case being dismissed with prejudice. Then there is no limit to the lies and games of omission.
Your claim of ‘fair’ sounds more like.. muh legacy…
Works like this…
The prosecution committed its fouls–some of them arguably intentional, but maybe not–and the judge called them out as grave and placed a marker on the desk. He allowed things to proceed to deliberation, presumably under the plan that the jury is likely to acquit. That would close this case forever in the defendant’s favor.
In the unlikely event that the jury hangs or comes back guilty, the judge has on his desk the marker he placed earlier. At this time, he picks up the marker and shows it to the prosecution and says “mistrial with prejudice”, see here the results of your misconduct. You tainted the jury with your misconduct, as demonstrated in the verdict. Therefore, it is nulled.
Now, the judge may not do that, but it appears to be quite possible.
The reason we are in this boat is because few stand up and are willing to sacrifice their legacy for the good of others.. All of the idols are false. I don’t know if I admire the hopium though. After the last 5 years people should know better by now.
TY for untangling this web of shjt for us Regulars.
My opinion on this judge will pivot on knowledge of whether he had any authority to have protestors banished from the courthouse steps and back across the street to the park while court was in session or the jury was deliberating? If it was within his powers to ban them to outside of the jury’s earshot and he did not, that would tell me volumes.
If no one could hear them from inside the court building and any bull horns were immediately taken away that would be important information. Sad to say, but there are sometimes wild exaggerations and outright lying coming from our side. I don’t want to be played by either side.
I have no confidence the jury will do the right thing, which is acquittal on all charges. We live in a time with lots of weak minded people who will convict on some lesser charge just to avoid turmoil fir themselves.
Had no idea that there was a DOJ-CRS unit in existence. With a huge budget of course. And with the ability to tip the scales of justice!
I agree. The thought that DOJ-CRS exists is scary enough. Our leaders are so wicked and twisted.
Who actually has authority over them? Who calls the shots.
We have to know POTUS Trump is 99.9% unaware it exists.
Logbook crs it’s like crt for the courts have a great day treepers R.D.
Check out the posts Sundance made about CRS during the Zimmerman trial.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=CRS+Zimmerman
Not committing crime out of proportion w/ a certain group’s percentage of the population would *dramatically* improve race relations.
I still think that the appropriate thing for the judge to now do is to either issue a directed verdict or to declare a mistrial with prejudice. I do not consider there to be any bona fide question of the law for a jury to “decide.”
Yes, Kyle was young and naïve. But Wisconsin law is quite clear about “self defense” and even says that you have a protected right to use it when your person is being threatened by another person. No one has a protected right to kill you, although four people tried. Had Kyle not been armed, and in control of his firearm, he would now be dead. Of this there can be no doubt at all.
And the person who testified against him intended to do it. (How much simpler things would be if Kyle had just adjusted his aim slightly and squeezed off one more shot.)
The actions of the prosecution have gone well beyond the boundaries of the law: they should be disbarred or suffer severe disciplinary action. They are an insult to their profession, and to the court system, and they should be called-out for it.
Can’t wait to see if the MOB RULES!
The mob already rules. It is called “social media” now. If you want to know why our forefathers did not want mob rule just look at social media.
The biggest part of the MOB are currently high paid professors managing the indoctrination camps referred to as universities…
The mob’s success at the university level has permitted them to graduate and employee thousands of indoctrinated teachers to infiltrate local schools.
The indoctrination programs include Law schools and Human Relations (HR) staffing personnel…These HR folks are the “gate keepers” that screen and place the “like minded” in management positions…Especially, federal and state positions.
Has there ever been an explaination on who ordered the Police to stand down during the riot and looting and why? Aren’t taxes paid to fund the police to protect homes, businesses, and property? Paying the mafia for protection would get you better results
The Mayor. And, there are about 5 other people in law enforcement and the DA’s office who are all related to the Mayor. When this is all over, I pray that the residents of Kenosha oust all of these commies from their midst.
Think Global – Act Local. Mayors, city councils, police chiefs of these cities are hardcore fascists, fascist puppets , or intimidated by fascists.
They invited the thugs in – why would they order their police to stop them?
Paying the Mafia for protection of your business would get better results. No bs in sections of the Bronx because of the Albanian mafia
I’d have to look up the precise verbiage from a SCOTUS case but I believe the essence is they opined law enforcement has no responsiblity to protect life or property, rather enforce the law upon action by others.
We’re sold the idea that they’re employed to protect the community and in a way I guess they do, acting as a deterrent to crime by their presence and providing consequences to those who engage in criminal activity if caught.
Those of us who live far from law enforcement, where I live now they’re a good 30-60 minutes through the mountains away, we know we’re on our own with regard to criminal activity in real time. There are no patrols, no cops coming to the rescue.
OTOH, with routine firearms practice on our own properties, the criminals in the area know what they’re facing if they get greedy, and the bodies will just disappear or get eaten by the critters. Different world.
I believe there was a case where a woman was hiding inside a house when criminals broke in, she called the police, the police searched the house did not find the perps, and they left. The Criminals than raped the woman and robbed the house. She sued the police and lost. the Judge ruled that the Police could not be sued because they could not be held responsible.
Having firearms protection and personal defense training, is what all good citizens should have. I advise all people of good will to tighten up their home,apt defenses. Security lights, cameras, etc.
I believe the essence is they opined law enforcement has no responsiblity to protect life or property, rather enforce the law upon action by others.
Then, it seems we can argue the citizen has no obligation to pay them.
My neighbors & I actually have intruder, fire and ems plans in place and walk through them occasionally due to our remote location. We’re a distance from any rapid law enforcement response.
Eufy sells excellent security cameras without a monthly fee.
We also live in a rural area and it takes a while for help from the cops to come when called so we rely on ourselves and each other.
We had an elderly retired farmer who use to drive around the area just to get out a bit.
He would notice things and if he saw something he would call and ask if everything was all right and if any help was needed.
In the old days some might have called him an old busy body but he was greatly appreciated by all of us.
He noticed if the door of an out building on a distant piece of property was open or if a Ag sprinkler looked damaged, or if a cow looked like it needed help.
If we left town for a few days he would make a point to drive by the place and keep an eye out.
In the winter he would drive in and out of the drive way to make it look like there were people coming and going during a fresh snow.
There is nothing that says “no body home” like no tire tracks in the drive way after a snow storm for a few days and the place looks like easy pickings.
Having good watchful neighbors who have your back can be a God Send.
You are on to something here…Cause and effect…
where were the paid professional “peacekeepers ” while the burning, looting and beatings took place”…
What’s the difference between a protest and a riot? What’s the difference between a roit and a war zone? People don’t get killed at a protest…
Listening to an interview (2 hrs) with attorney Robert Barnes last night, I learned things I didn’t know as he was one of Kyle’s attorneys until the last minute when whatever that guy who is a spokesperson for Kyle and his family took over complete control with decision making. He’s obviously a guy who got ahold of the mother and the kid and he now controls all their finances as well and all the money that has been donated for Kyle’s defense. I’ve seen him twice on tv and wondered who the hell he was as he’s not an attorney or a PR guy by profession or anything like that.
Barnes volunteered his time and assembled a professional team that would make sure Kyle got a jury that was, at the very least, one that was favorable to him, and at the very least, one that was not hostile to him by doing all kinds of demographic work on Kenosha and its residence. He knew that jury selection would be the number 1 factor in an acquittal but Kyle’s local lawyers, at the very end of Barnes’ work, right before the trial began, said, “No, we don’t need to question the jurors like that.”
Barnes said these lawyers had convinced themselves that the video evidence was so strong, no juror would hold out on Kyle’s innocence. They seemed unable to grasp the political forces at work to make Kyle a monster. I am reminded of just how surprised the judge was that the press was treating him so badly, how they wrote things about court procedures and decisions he had made that were just plain wrong.
Basically, we have a very provincial lawyering team and judge to match. They evidently don’t read the blog (lol) and are, like most of us were at one time, totally unaware of the machinations that take place in DC and at their very own statehouse in WI.
In a guy like Barnes, you have someone who understands the larger picture.
Whoever that spokesperson is has a sketchy bio. Could it be the gov’t sent him?
Basically CLUELESS!
Certainly does appear to be so.
very worrisome to us (Mom and me) as we turned on Fox for just a few minutes and that spokesman was on Laura Ingraham’s show – had to turn it off – praying
It is time for Charlie Manson’s “HELTER SKELTER”!
Wisconsin Right Now! Rittenhouse Files
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/rittenhouse-files/
I’ll be using a new toast when having drinks with family and friends over the upcoming holiday season.
The toast is “Rosenbaum!” to celebrate the death of a scumbag who molested little boys!
Say it loud and with cheer!!!
He’s a People’s Revolution scumbag. All 3 were scum. Just like the vermin who burned Newark 50+ years ago.
Robert Barnes explained in that interview I referenced how all the characters whose names we now know, (except Rosenbaum) who just happened to show up at a chaotic event, were working together on that street to encircle Kyle to kill him.
These guys were NOT just separate actors.
There was a shooting in Denver last year whereas a “counter-protester” showed up to harass anti mask protesters leaving the event. The shooter who I strongly suspect was a paid antifa agitator by a local news channel shot a veteran in the face at same time the veteran engaged his bear spray. He was armed but never reached for his gun. This story has gone was underground with hardly any media coverage (no surprise there since they’re covering for their own). Point is, I believe agitation is all part of their narrative.
https://nationalfile.com/video-eyewitness-says-lee-keltners-killer-huddled-with-news-producer-blm-agitator-before-shooting/
Yes. Barnes gave a very convincing argument in that regard.
correct answer.
we should not leave to an illegitimate government to dictate what “justice” is.
The phone and text messages of the three would confirm that but the DA never searched their phones…at least that’s what the DA alleged. I don’t believe that for one second. Those phones were searched and downloaded. The results are locked in the DA’s safe!
If our side really knew how to operate, they’d organize ways to make anchors for the global networks pay for the lies they spread . Make it impossible for the networks to hire anyone to be clowns for them.
This exchange is worth listening too in its entirety, but I think Barnes explanation o the legal argument which should have been presented is excellent. It’s starts at 44:00-44:60, but he discusses in detail the witnesses which couldn’t be brought to trial prior to that because the state charged them in other cases which were ending, etc.
Dirty prosecutors. Dirty state. Same ‘ole game.
I listened to all of this last night: an eye-opener.
Me too. It was an eye-opener to me also. Kyle needs Barnes for the next trial.
A great way to help keep up on the Rittenhouse case and anything going on in Wisconsion is Dan O’Donnell. Dan, a real investigative journalist and attorney, was also responsible for making sure the nursing home fraudulent ballot scam by WEC got out and got investigated. Dan has broken many stories on the Rittenhouse case, and yesterday also alerted us to the fact that Wisconsin County Clerks are now saying that to be poll worker in the mid-terms you must have proof of vaccination.
BTW, I called that last part last year. I knew they would go there. Again. BUT, that is a year away and a lot can happen between now and then. 🙂 Proof of vax is not required until Jan, so I say fight it until then. I think it will be found to have NO STANDING.
In the meantime, if you are in WI and want to be a PAID poll worker the deadline is FRIDAY for sign-up. TOMORROW.
The Dan O’Donnell Show
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-dan-odonnell-show-27550539
Rebecca Kleefisch contends Madison is using a vaccine mandate to keep Republicans from serving as poll workers
By Patrick Marley, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
17 Nov 2021
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/17/wisconsin-rebecca-kleefisch-says-vaccine-rule-stop-republicans-working-polls/8656335002
This is insane! This judge needs to end this now.
Hey … put the prosecutor under oath, put him in the presence of technical expert witnesses, and let him explain about those videos under penalty of perjury. There are many people who openly suspect that the prosecution not only compressed the footage but significantly tampered with it. Objective comparisons of even the single frames have already been done by many folks out there on the Internet, and they observe that what the prosecution had is not “simply an uncompressed version” of what they gave to the defense.
So, yeah – put these people under oath and demand that they explain themselves, in the presence of people who thoroughly understand the technology. Let them get caught committing perjury, or admitting to perjury, right in front of you. Now you’ve got your mistrial – and the felony crime of evidence tampering.
I’m seeing that here and there…that its not just compressed, that it is altered in other ways.
The actual compression process alters it.
The prosecutors never expected the video to be critiqued by the experts in the internet audience. Lots of smart people out there who catch all the corruption instilled in everything going on these days.
Better yet, why wasn’t the person who filmed this called as a witness with the original non compressed video.
Have them prove chain of custody of evidence.
Rekietal Law has now gone live.
I’m hoping Kyle’s story ends differently than that of Melville’s character, but Kyle is a modern day Billy Budd.
According to news Kenosha has put thier schools on remote learning today
in anticipation of the verdict..Not sure if good or bad now all the hooligans
who want to cause trouble are home to show up at any mischief .
Oh for gosh sake. This has been played out over and over again ever since Barry Soetero Hussein Obama began this under the orders of his masters.
Kenosha or Kyle? Who will be destroyed? We’ve seen this before.
It is truly a sad day in America when schools close and the National Guard is called out for the resolution of a trial. This wasn’t done just out of caution, it was done because there are numerous trials where the thugs reacted. It is a failure of lamestream media that American citizens now believe that rioting, looting, and burning are a normal part of our lives.
The alphabet media and their minions must be destroyed. I believe the only way to change this is a group of investors force a leveraged buyout of one or more of the ABCNNNN’s. This group would then own entire time slots or cable channels that would suddenly have massive firings and come on the air with a statement explaining how the new owners are dedicated to reviving a fair and honest open media. Please watch us all the time because those other ABCBSers are still lying and will continue until you the viewer rejects their radical ideology that is harming America! Flag waving and patriotic music playing!
Is the following a complete and accurate list?
So far, it appears the prosecution:
1 – told the police detective NOT to execute the warrant on Grosskreutz’s phone (a clear conflict of interest),
2 – introduced materials prohibited by the judge in a ruling prior to the trial (so it could not be part of questioning before seating jurors, and denying the defense time to prepare for cross-examine or provide rebuttal),
3 – violated defendant’s 5A rights by framing it in trial as “evidence” of guilt (this is a BIGGIE, cause for automatic mistrial with prejudice),
4 – tampered with a witness (dismissing Grosskreutz’s charges prior to testimony, a clear conflict of interest),
5 – tampered with evidence (drone video), and
6 – now claimed to not identify a person, suppressing that key witness’s testimony, standing in for that person as the accuser, denying Rittenhouse’s defense the opportunity to cross-examine. More here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html
They had less evidence against Nafong and he got disbarred.
The judge should have dispatched this. He’s a democrat, now we know. The stern talking was performative. He cares more about his reputation among the liberal press than he cares about justice. This is so depressing.
This is all opportunity for the judge to dismiss w/prejudice:
On Cross, Leave-it-to-Beaver violated Kyle’s 1A by questioning why he remained silent until now. Judge went ballistic, but like with every other violation of the law by the State, he did nothing.
Tried to get witness (Nathan DeBruin, photographer) to change his deposition. Then berated the witness on the witness stand for hiring a lawyer.
Pointed Kyle’s AR-15 at the jury with his FINGER on the trigger.
Why is ‘chain of custody’ not a factor for videos?
Before deliberation even started, someone filmed the jurors.
The judge, his family and jurors have all been threatened.
And now, last night, someone followed the jury bus and ran a red light to not lose them in traffic. He was pulled over by the cops and questioned. He said he was with MSNBC (gave his name and his production supervisor’s name) and now MSNBC has been banned from the trial for the rest of the session.
I’m hoping for….
The best of all outcomes….
Jury comes back not guilty all charges….
and the judge then declares mistrial with prejudice.
Not guilty on all charges is the final verdict. No mistrial needed. A not guilty verdict is with prejudice. Double jeopardy attaches. Prosecution cannot appeal a not guilty verdict or ask for a new trial, or ask the judge to set aside the verdict. It’s over.
I think this is what the judge is hoping for so he doesn’t have to dismiss with prejudice.
If the jury follows the law, be prepared for all hell to break loose. If CRS intervenes be prepared for nothing,.. apparently conservatives are complacent people and simpy have no backbone. When is enough going to be enough?
same question here. its clear we are going to stand aside and let this illegitimate circus run its course, once again.
goal post – MOVED.
When you indicate “no backbone” what exactly are you saying? Should conservatives go out and act like BLM?
“Conservatives” have had no backbone for decades. They are Fabian Socialist fake opponents of the Global-Marxist satanic agenda. Look what they did to PDJT & Pat Buchanan. I’ve hated them since the 90’s when I figured out their Hegelian Dialectic games
I have the same problem here locally. They love to go to meetings and complain and show their understanding of “issues” but when it comes to action, I could not get even one person to stand with me and my live free or die sign next to the town’s get vaccinated sign. And when I tried to organize a stop the steal demonstration only one person showed up. When I stood on Main St. and held my Trump flag pre-election, I was verbally assaulted and actually very close to physical assault with an entire mob across the street from me and not one Trump person stood with me, and yes, I found out after, there were some in the crowd watching….
I am an activist; I am not going to their meetings anymore…I wrote the “leader” with the Samuel Adams quote about a small group of patriots lighting brush fires of liberty and said, never underestimate the power of the individual and noted: never forget Rosa Parks…and in response I got an email saying she didn’t feel comfortable doing thing as an individual. Oboy, theky have dozens of people on their mailing list, but not a single Rosa Parks. Sad.
I’ve put myself on the line and I’ve also found that too many others lack the courage of their convictions. These are the people who sat on their hands, refusing to vote, instead of volunteering to secure their local elections. They will also sign petitions, but then fail to show solid support at important meetings and events.
I think the Bible calls them fence sitters. I would tell such fence sitters that there are sins of omission, and if they back down in the face of evil as a matter of personal convenience, then they are in fact ‘complicit’ fence sitters.
There will come a time in the not-too-distant future when their ‘tepid’ stand for freedom will not be enough to save them.
“The activity of the CRS is rarely discussed, but essentially the agency is authorized to reach into any court proceeding, local, state or federal, and modify/guide the proceedings under the auspices of maintaining national racial harmony.”
This is extremely disturbing. My take: this will be re-tried either on trial level or appellate. CRS will want this on the back burner until AFTER midterms.
State has repeatedly lied in this case. Defense lawyers had this case in the bag. Barnes should represent Kyle in the next trial. His def counsel was extremely weak, except in closing, but……they left too much on the table, imo.
This needs to be exposed as much as anything.
Order at the expense of liberty is a POS. If this secret
These folks had better understand that
“The activity of the CRS is rarely discussed, but essentially the agency is authorized to reach into any court proceeding, local, state or federal, and modify/guide the proceedings under the auspices of maintaining national racial harmony.”
If it ain’t broke, fix it until it is.
Road report: Paducah, Nashville, Chattanooga, Atlanta, Orlando, all quiet.
Road o Perdition?
Kyle has learned some harsh lessons at a young age. When he joined those cadet programs, no doubt the leaders talked about virtues and selflessness and taking oaths and love of community and country.
What this trial has taught him:
The country is deeply divided
The beleaguered businessman who thanked you for being a watchman today will turn on you in court
The media is, like Satan, a great deceiver and accuser, demonizing the innocent, celebrating the wicked
The politicians will leverage this injustice to score points
The prosecution will twist your words, your intent, and fabricate material for guilt – and the judge will let the state do it, while answering a “Proud to be an American” ringtone and flipping through a cookie catalog
To reword an Orwell quote: If you want a picture of our future, imagine Kraus’ heavy boot stamping on a human face — for ever.
Kyle will be lucky to be alive in 12 months. They will either jail him here or retry him in federal court – either way they will get their pound of flesh. They will put an innocent white teenage boy in prison after labeling him a racist murderer. The black inmates will kill him first chance they get – and don’t doubt the guards will give them their chance.
God help him.
My money is on hung jury and no verdict, allowing the Federal Government to move in and file there own unsupportable heinous charges against a stupid teenager. This whole deal has become a repeating nightmare for our system that was formerly known as Justice. We can’t fix this mess because, once again, The People are demonstrating that spinelessness is next to Godliness.
And the Fed will move the venue to Milwaukee to get a more diverse jury to do the “right ” thing. Shame!!
If it was illegal to be armed that night and local authorities failed to arrest him for being armed that is a failure of law enforcement.
Since it was legal for him to be armed it was also legal for him to protect himself from life threatening actions.
Just as it would have been for you or me had we made the choice to protect a community.
Everything else is gobblygook.
If the police would have stopped the looting, burning, and property destruction, this trial would have never happened. I’m surprised that none of the dead thugs family hasn’t filed a lawsuit against the police.
This judge won’t declare mistrial with prejudice, but if he did, you can guarantee the Idiocracy era we’re living in will take the “prejudice” part as “further evidence” of systemic racism. Because … derp.
Order at the expense of liberty is not acceptable.
DOJ is getting closer and closer to an uprising of the sane that they can’t control even if they wanted to.
And no, it’s NOT exaggeration to say the French Revolution could occur here.
The French Revolution got out of hand and ended badly.
Because of this it has been criticized but I think people need to remember that the pushback by the people of the horrific treatment by their Monarchy needed to be corrected and they had little choice as to how to do this.
The French Monarchy were no longer ruling wisely nor were they listening to the petitions of the people.
The requests of the people were reasonable but the Ruling class thinking themselves smarter and invincible ignored them.
This did not end well for them as history shows.
Legal question (too late, but just curious): Could the defense have called Grosskreutz up to the stand AGAIN after tweaking his testimony on TV news? Or is that too risky? Just wondering if Grosskreutz was sufficiently afraid of perjuring himself the first time enough to tell the truth the second time?
Oddly, none of these scumbags seem to have any fear of the law, and their justified. Even Drop-Kick-Man has been let go more than 3 or 4 times after committing crimes while on probation.
Lefty Grosskreutz is probably being paid by the left.
When the defense asked if any of the People of the Revolution were in the courtroom that day, and Grosskreutz scanned the audience and said ‘yes’, whether he was telling the truth or lying, it likely scared the jurors. I understand what the defense was doing, but not all jurors are a courageous lot. Not to mention, they were photographed in the beginning, in violation of law.
Is Durham widening his investigation? ?
I saw that also. I thought, is that John Durham in the background? LOL
My guess is the reference is to Durham who is also running backwards away from Hillary and the corrupt guilty higher ups?
Thank you for this meme. This is precisely what I’ll say to any idiot who says he’s guilty … “Yes, and if you run the video backward, you can see that Mr. Rittenhouse is chasing them all!” Then walk away.
Could “jump-kick man” have provided evidence bolstering Kyle’s claim of self-defense? Did the prosecution know his name and withhold this info from the defense?
https://www.westernjournal.com/key-rittenhouse-witness-development-identity-man-kicked-kyle-face-comes-light-report/?fbclid=IwAR1Oxehesb406tnjZNOYDGLOWr2n0bqUL9QMT4ebEF0MJJPOqif-0XsOWz8
Jump Kick Man has a suitable nickname – looks like he too, is a pillar of society. Yet they insist on painting Kyle as the villain and these scumbags as “heroes.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html#comments
The longer this goes on, the worse it gets from a justice standpoint. There is no provocation hangup. If Kyle pointed a weapon at someone (not in evidence) he regains the claim of self-defense when he ran away from the mob chasing him.
This is so clear cut. It’s self-defense.
Good point. Even though you should never point a gun, a person afraid for their life might try it to dissuade a gang of thugs. Unfortunately, if pointing the gun didn’t stop them, running proves that the “point” was also self defense.
Zimmerman had it lucky. He was a racist because he shot a black guy.
Rittenhouse is a racist because he shot white guys.
Continuing the logical progression, If you are White and shoot yourself, you are a racist.
They would be accused of taking jobs away.
Cleverly put together and very funny.
Isn’t the thinking on the left that Rittenhouse is a racist because he shot anyone, color doesn’t matter, precisely because they were rioting to protest racial injustice?
We need to know our enemy. I won’t argue with a libtard using rumours and lies. Rittenhouse was in the right place and doing the right things, period.
With the inverted reality of the DOJ, CRS aka “another political weapon of the biden crime family,” we are told NOT to believe “our lying eyes.”
This as we clearly see this decent, caring human being trying to help his fellow men.
Meanwhile, the paid demoncrat sodomites, pedophiles, arsonists, violent criminals & murderers try to kill this kid.
I remember when REAL men roamed the earth. If the rabid mob, turns this jury into the evil, cowardly losers they themselves are, it will be their choice & undoing.
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12
Anyone want to let these people know that there is an actual racially charged case that is far more applicable to BLM down in Georgia? Why are they all about Kyle? Don’t get me wrong – I know nothing about the Aubry case, but on it’s face it sure seems a lot more “racially charged” and questionable that the case here. Kyle shot people who were chasing him. These guys down in Georgia shot someone THEY were chasing.
I dont know about GA case at all, but based on your comment, it sounds like the lesson is “bad people allowed to chase and shoot” so media attention not needed in GA case.
It’s racially charged, and it has many prosecution problems as well. Nate the Lawyer has been following it and commenting.
Things are getting so out of control in our country. Kyle is innocent but I believe the judge wanted the jury to do his job for him instead of allowing the mistrial with prejudice as he should. Now, the jury wants the judge to do their job and rule for the mistrial. Every lawyer should be writing complaints to the WI Bar Assn. Government is acting in bad faith across the nation.
now this – first Mom raid by FBI. Merrick Garland is a lying liar!
https://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/americas-first-mom-raided-fbi-october-4th-doj-memorandum-she-fought-against-voter
praying
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This photo breaks my heart.
LOL, just posted this to Fakebook and got another 24 hour ban! My bans far outnumber my posts and they also tell me that when I do post, in order to correct my incorrect thinking, my posts are moved down in the feed.
“You can’t post or comment for 24 hours
This is because you previously posted something that didn’t follow our Community Standards. You also won’t be able to go live or advertise for 90 days.
This post goes against our standards on dangerous individuals and organizations, so only you can see it.
If you think we’ve made a mistake you can disagree with the decision.”
From LI just now – “parties in court, judge on the bench, something is up.”
What??
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-verdict-watch-day-3-jury-focusing-in-on-controversial-drone-video-provocation-issue/
BOOM,
Judge bans MSNBC from courthouse for stalking Jurors !
And……….. the person following the jury transport bus heading to the courthouse has been taken into custody.
Daily Mail: “The person was taken into custody and issued several traffic related citations.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10218025/MSNBC-News-BANNED-Kenosha-Courthouse-rest-Kyle-Rittenhouse-trial.html
traffic citations … unbelievable.
And he should be held there until the trial is over. No matter how long!
If I heard correctly…… the judge said MSNBC does not recognized the persons name. Again IF i heard correctly.
Clarification – some clown following juror bus around, ran red light, got stopped claimed to be with MSNBC – MSNBC link not confirmed, but they’re not allowed back in courthouse anyhow per judge’s order from bench.
Oh boy. I do not have a good feeling about this at all!
JUST IN – Person reportedly followed a Rittenhouse juror home and was arrested by Kenosha police. Judge to make a statement – media reports
Mistrial is in order.
Dismiss with prejudice, Judge.
and doxx the follower, fair is fair.
In a sane country, the judge would absolutely have to rule that a mistrial. If the jury is under threat there is no way a fair and impartial verdict is possible.
Exactly correct.
At least they WERE arrested versus being left to fend for themselves – possibly with weapons. Wouldn’t THAT be ironic??
Basis for a suit big time.
MSNBC has just left the building!
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
NOW – Person allegedly from NBC/MSNBC was instructed to follow the jury bus in the #Rittenhouse trial. Judge orders to exclude the two news outlets from the trial pending further investigation.
(Judges statement video linked in tweet)…
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Judge Schroeder says the reporter who was taken into custody was James J Morrison and he claimed to be working for Irene Byon of NBC in New York
On LinkedIn, there is an Irene Byon who lists herself as an NBC producer in New York
12:41 PM · Nov 18, 2021
That’s a badge of honor for those miscreants. They will be welcomed home with parties and attaboys.
They feel no shame when caught breaking laws and norms, it is their mission.
Exactly, he will be rewarded for doing his duty
Remember the objective is everything!
Ms. Byon please call your office…..
Every media outlet does this, they send out a crew and give them orders of what to do and ask, so they can spin it. Nothing new except this time they got caught, and I am happy about that.
The dummy ran a red light, guns. That’s called breaking the law. All the rest he considers his job as a “journalist” and is a-ok in their “minds” (assuming they have a mind).
Beach house friend?
Organized crime is never this sloppy.
Morrison sounds like an FBI snitch.
Media heads are all Communist Travelers, and their journalist are Useful Idiots. They should all be banished to Australia.
The good people of Australia already have more problems than they ever needed, send the commei criminals to a like minded communist run country where they can truly enjoy the fruits of they labor.
Make that Uganda and Somalia
I was hoping it was “James D. Morrison”.
The Lizard King is alive and a flaming libtard.