The New York Times needed to put four of their top Trump-Russia narrative engineers on a defensive story about John Durham possibly indicting Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussmann over his involvement in pushing the Trump-Russia fraud to the FBI on behalf of Hillary Clinton.
Michael Sussmann was one of the primary story-tellers used by The New York Times as a source to write articles about the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory. Durham might indict Sussmann for lying to the FBI, because Sussmann said he wasn’t working for Hillary Clinton, yet Sussmann billed Hillary Clinton for the hours he spent pushing the Trump-Russia story.
Yeah, that might be a problem.
The wording of The Times story is rather humorous in their collective effort to retain credibility and yet draw some distance from their ally now under scrutiny. Keep in mind, as you read this paragraph, Sussmann hired Crowdstrike, the cyber security firm who claimed the DNC was hacked by Russians and generated the Alfa bank conspiracy theory:
(NYT) […] Donald J. Trump and his supporters have long accused Democrats and Perkins Coie — whose political law group, a division separate from Mr. Sussmann’s, represented the party and the Hillary Clinton campaign — of seeking to stoke unfair suspicions about Mr. Trump’s purported ties to Russia.
This next paragraph is even more funny:
[…] Some of the questions that Mr. Durham’s team has been asking in recent months — including of witnesses it subpoenaed before a grand jury, according to people familiar with some of the sessions — suggest he has been pursuing a theory that the Clinton campaign used Perkins Coie to submit dubious information to the F.B.I. about Russia and Mr. Trump in an effort to gin up investigative activity to hurt his 2016 campaign. (link)
A “theory”? Too funny. No, there is actual evidence this is exactly what happened. It’s not even debatable at this point. A “theory”? Good grief.
2018 testimony from former FBI legal counsel James Baker revealed that Michael Susmann, representing the Clinton team, was feeding information to the FBI for use against the trump campaign.
In March and April 2016, around the same time when NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers was shutting down “contractor access” to FBI and NSA databases [an effort to stop the frequent FISA-702(16)(17) search abuses that were taking place], Michael Sussmann met with FBI Legal Counsel James Baker – Global Privacy Summit, April 5th, 2016.
With his former DOJ national security credentials, Michael Sussmann integrated himself with the DNC’s cyber security team; and following the DNC intrusion (aka Seth Rich), Sussmann introduced the DNC to CrowdStrike. The DNC goal was to identify the extent of the compromise. Crowdstrike then helped the DNC hide the fact that Seth Rich was the extractor of the information -which Rich then gave to Wikileaks- and Crowdstrike then helped establish the narrative about the DNC being hacked.
Someone, likely from the Clinton camp, then killed Seth Rich.
TechnoFog has a great summary article of how Michael Sussmann is legally exposed. READ IT HERE

The Clinton team hired Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump, package it as a dossier, and deliver it to the FBI for exploitation.
Fusion GPS is a political research firm and network of political operatives who sell their mercenary services to anyone willing to pay. Fusion has resources inside and outside government and the capability to exploit FBI and NSA databases containing information about U.S. citizens. Fusion then uses a secondary network of media outlets who they pay to write articles shaped for their purposes. Fusion GPS is operated by Glenn Simpson.
In April 2016, at the same time NSA Director Mike Rogers was shutting down contractor access to the FBI/NSA database; and at the same time FBI legal counsel was meeting with Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussmann; Hillary Clinton -through Perkins Coie- hired Fusion GPS to target her presidential campaign opponent, Donald Trump.
Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson then assigned Russian expert and CIA research analyst Nellie Ohr to the Trump project. At the time Nellie Ohr’s husband, Bruce Ohr, was the #4 ranking official inside the DOJ National Security Division. Simultaneous to Nellie Ohr’s assignment, Fusion GPS also sub-contracted with Christopher Steele for additional material and internal collaboration with Mrs. Ohr.
Glenn Simpson, Nellie and Bruce Ohr then worked with Christopher Steele on the “Steele Dossier” and the promotion of the content therein to media and FBI allies. We now know that in addition to FusionGPS, Chris Steele, Nellie Ohr (via Bruce Ohr), providing information to the FBI; there was Michael Sussmann representing the DNC also providing information into the FBI for the same purposes.
The FBI, through Peter Strzok and the Crossfire Hurricane team, then closed the loop on the ‘wrap up smear’ by exploiting the information within “the Dossier” to gain a Title-1 FISA surveillance warrant on the presidential campaign of Donald Trump.
Hiding all of that political surveillance and collusion between the Clinton campaign and the FBI was what made the Trump-Russia story so important; and specifically why they needed to put Special Counsel Robert Muller into place to cover all the background activity.
This might be a good spot to provide this link to an article describing Devolution and President Trump:
https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/08/05/what-is-the-devolution-theory-and-is-it-trumps-reality/
Or…
Remember prior to the election, when this guy tried to sound the warning (a few times) of a possible mil coup to remove PDJT?
Sept 2020:
| Former JAG Officer Richard Black Warns of a Potential Military Coup |
Man In America has a nice series on Devolution.
https://ugetube.com/watch/patel-patriot-interviewed-by-man-in-america-is-there-really-a-plan-devolution_ctz4k6mzhtznkzs.html?lang=turkish
Don’t digest this article. It’s full of plaigairism and slander He stoke this from Wictor and out his spin on it
Is this the latest variant of “trust the plan?”
Seems so. More red meat for MAGA who will swallow it.
Dave, are you implying that people who support MAGA are conspiracy theorists?
I hope thats not why you are here to say things like that.
Not sure what Dave means, but I know in my world view I see quite a bit of crazy crap on the supposed right.
Whether RolCon, Q, or just the average run of the mill batchit crazy person, that is always looking for a home to spew his psychoses; we need to resist and be a bit more discerning with some of the far out crap.
I think SD does a great job of highlighting malfeasance without falling into the paranoia trap.
As I have written before: We are a higher class of conspiracy theorists.
IMO-YMMV.
I think you may be on to something Ms. Straight
I find the thought to be superficially appealing but otherwise farfetched.
What’s going to have to happen is for the People, peacefully but irresistibly, to refuse to accept the felony crime that was committed against them all. It is a fundamental principle of Common Law that, if you gain office through fraud or coercion, “you didn’t gain it at all.” Your tenure is void ab initio – “void from the beginning.”
Our opponents know all about violence – they use it as a tool. But it is the only thing they know, and that is their blind spot. They surround the Capitol once again with concertina-wire fencing because they do not comprehend the power of peace.
To know what must be done, go read MLK’s Letter From A Birmingham Jail. It isn’t short, and it isn’t easy reading, but it does fully spell out the tactic that won the Civil Rights struggle: non-violent resistance. MLK’s forces faced violence at every turn, but they never responded in kind. And yet, they won the war.
Simply: “if 330.5 million people refuse to be robbed, there’s not a lot that less-than-six-hundred people can do about it, no matter what their job titles are. ?♂️
But, as MLK points out in the letter, this strategy is not easy and it is not without human cost.
Don’t look to the US Military, nor anyone else, to do what we must now do.
That is the most positive and hopeful concept I have read in the previous 9 months. I have read Letters From a Birmingham Jail and will dust it off from my book case and read it again, as I have discussed the book with many of my grad students. Peace in the face of violence is a strong powerful strategy to win this war.
The devolution is being televised.
Be nice to see SOMEBODY in court over Coup #1.
Must be a run on tap shoes at the New York Times.
Wait till the full story really breaks. Every man for himself.
I don’t know about Seth Rich being another Clinton hit job … always pictured it as a DNC ordered execution.
Another Podesta
“Wetworks” re: Wikileaks.
Well, what’s her name schultz had the awan brothers working for her, so the may have needed to return a favour, so they could exit the USA with their 30 pieces of silver!
Yeah, that entire episode involving Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Imran Awan certainly stunk, didn’t it?
And so does the way it all got swept under the rug. Man, I really wish we had seen what was on that laptop…
It didn’t just involve DWS, the Awans were providing ” tech support” to half of Congress, most of whom chose not to run again
Pelosi prevented the FBI from seeing it.
Pakistan.
https://www.news18.com/news/india/pakistan-nsa-criticises-wait-and-watch-policy-on-recognising-taliban-regime-in-afghanistan-4209848.html
Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz. If her mouth is moving, she is lying. Schultz has been gone from the spotlight these last few years. Maybe murder of the young man, Seth Rich, was a bridge too far even for her.
Arkancide by any other name still kills.
The Clinton variant.
Sundance missed a big one, Glen Simpson setting up the Trump tower meeting. That was months of fake news.
Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC – POLITICO Magazine
The DNC was just another controlled tool under Cankle’s command.
It was Posesta who gave the order from Killary
I think many here know how this ends: nothing happens.
Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert!
Not true! Each scandal is followed up by by an even bigger one. Just think how big they are going to have to go to cover up the vax scandal.
It is different this time. Lol
We used to have a few Eyeores around here. But now, I often suspect they’re actively subversive agents for the enemy pushing BPs.
You mean like Eeyores who complain that no one on the Left ever gets held to account?
That kinda Eeyore ?
I like your comments nimrodman. Many here were eyes wide open about:
1) Jeff Sessions being a goof (Hat tip Wavy Gravy)
2) “‘Big Ugly’ (Hildabeast Clinton going to jail) never gonna happen”. I was banned from here for 9 months for that one.
Sundance has been doing a very good job, but I also highly respect many commenters here and elsewhere. Some commenters sadly have disappeared. Other sites have dropped their comment section like AT who had probably the best group of people on the internet 2015- 2018.
Never hurts being a Realistic Optimist.
True, but what I find interesting is that so many folks up this way are having their eyes opened to that very fact.
The over sixty crowd by and large still get their information/ indoctrination from various MSM outlets.
Those much younger, and away from the corruption in our universities.
Are not so easily swayed.
I spend time with many late twenty and early individuals.
Many are seriously clued in, and utterly despise the Vaxx hoax etc.
My father captained oil tankers, a brother still does. When off course they need a while to turn around.
Without PDJT I for one would never have believed the magnitude of the corruption and I am a cynic extraordinaire.
I fight the cynic in myself often. It’s awfully hard to find positive when your split personality is cynical you on steroids.
Don’t cha hate it when both personalities start fighting each other?
Sometimes I wish I had a third personality to act as referee. 🙂
But, but, maybe Grahamnesty could write a strongly worded letter.
And/or this ONE sacrificial lamb is slaughtered so the narrative is ONE rogue actor caused all the trouble.
One bad guy is put away … like Osama bin Laden … and then everything is right with the world again.
Sheesh. There is no TRUTH. Only narratives.
Couldn’t agree more. This was a coordinated effort encompassing domestic agencies (FBI, CIA, State and probably Military etc.), foreign governments (UK, Italy, Australia, Fiveeyes, Ukraine, China etc.), corporations (Crowdstrike, Social Media, Media etc.), political organizations (DNC, RNC etc.) and numerous rouge individuals (Misfud, Meuller, CPage?, the fat guy in the UK – forget his name, etc.) as well as many NGOs. They all new what they were doing and they should all be RICO’d and shot as traitors.
Some Conservative Artist needs to do a visual “Game of Telephone” showing all the players.
Cliff Notes: Lots of corruption, illegal behavior, hearings, investigations, cover ups, conjecture, proof, stalling, distractions, promises, and ultimatley lots of nothing of consequence ever comes of any of it.
So, you understand the GOPe?
Most importantly, they all get paid.
The New York Times, ranks right up there with Mad Magazine, in the, to be taken seriously reading.
Mad magazine was more cleverly written than the NYT. They aren’t in the same league anymore
Thankyou for this . It being after midnite when I saw this, I was just looking for a way to remark when your article popped up. I have missed your deep dives into the meat of deep state matters. I hope this is a sign that Durham is still in pursuit of justice. I look forward to your explanations of how this plays out with all the nefarious twists and turns and the key players.
It would be wonderful if Durham was actually doing something. It has been over a year now. Where is the Arizona audit by the way?
Notice how quiet it has been lately about the Arizona audit? I guess it will come out after the D RATS steal the 2024 election.
I heard it will be released next week…….
/sarc
Brian Cates wrote an opinion piece on this very matter:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/nobody-stopped-john-durham-and-hes-still-coming_3966933.html
Brian Cates’ record of predicting anything around Durham is objectively abysmal.
Cates predictions are starting to come true
That ought to get Hannity “all lathered up . . .”
It’s amazingly refreshing to see the Seth Rich angle written about with such certainty. I know that’s such a small part of this article but after years of seeing the SR (Seth rich) angle portrayed as a theory it is reassuring to see it written about as fact. The SR murder is near the beginning of this whole mess. When it’s written about as a fact it gives me the confidence that my understanding of russiagate has a solid foundation. That foundation is that SR leaked the info to Wikileaks, the Russians didn’t hack it. From there it’s a series of compounding lies designed to keep the sun from shining into some dark corners.
My thoughts exactly FreeMTNman. I think it has been 3 years that I have been waiting to see that SR was Wiki/Assange’s source. It does stack up. If the rest of this is kabuki theater and dirty politics, the line was crossed with Seth Rich’s murder. Why do you think Assange is so suppressed and now the US wants him. Where’s rep Robacher and his testimony from his 3 hour interview with Assange?
I always wondered who’s bright idea was it to bring in crowdstrike to look at the DNC servers – have you seen their stock CRWD – was 65 in July 2019 and now $259. Sussman seems to be a key thread.
Good Assessment SD.
I still think nothing is going to happen though. Apparently this is what happens when outsiders are voted in. Makes me sick to my stomach. Thanks CTH and commentors for the sanity. I feel you.
B. Franklin:
While watching Tucker Carlson a while back, CrowdStrike showed up as one of his sponsors.
One of those things that made me go hmmm!
They are current sponsors of FOX Business.
I STILL curse Julian Assange for not coming clean about his source.
Perhaps it’s time to forgive Julian for his transgressions. The man is locked in solitary confinement in Belmarsh Prison – the bigger shame to me, is that the do nothing Australian Government is running true to form, but even worse, the land of Magna Carta is pimping out her courts to protect someone as loathsome as Hilary and as crooked as the Clinton/Bush/Obama/Biden et al crime family’s.
Let Justice Prevail – yes, but it’s time to put things right all over the world.
That was Mr. Assange’s catch-22: he built his entire business model on the promise that leaker’s identities would never, ever, ever be exposed regardless of the consequences to Wikileaks –
and that very business model promise is what the Deep State so eloquently used against Mr. Assange. Should he divulge the source of the leak (SR) that would also forever cripple the never, ever, ever promise and put in doubt any future leakers reliance on their anonymity, and thus their safety.
What is the point of a business model when it imprisons the creator?
Perhaps this is dumb, but after Seth Rich was murdered, why was it important to protect a dead leaker? You’d think Assange would want justice for the source…
Your curse seems to be working if you look at what the “powers that be” have done to his life.
“Durham might indict Sussmann for lying to the FBI because Sussmann said he wasn’t working for Hillary Clinton…”
Durham actually exists?
Since he’s been MIA for how long now and I thought since one can only find one or two pictures of the guy….
Yes, I am being cynical here. I won’t hold my breath on the “Durham Report”.
Team POTATUS is probably not-so-secretly hoping that some Durham indictments can distract from the Dumpster Fire Going Over a Cliff that they launched 8 months ago…
Anything to distract from what really counts ….fraudulent election audits.
Many of the Communist/Democrat traitors/criminals involved with the Coup/treason against our country, ancestors came from the Soviet Union. They are trying to recreate a new insane asylum Soviet Union here now
Why would the NY Times need to distance Perkins Coie from Sussmann? Do they know something they are not reporting? Or are they setting up Sussmann to be the fall guy?
Note that Elias also left Perkins Coie recently. Wonder if this might be same vain?
That man Elias holds the least regard for democracy of any person I know of.
They split the firm. Elias started a new firm with many former P-C lawyers, ikr.
If the law firm itself is indicted could other records be called for? Not sure how an institutional indictment would affect subpoenas but Obama’s personal attorney landed at Perkins Coie.
What is this? Durham asked for what? Asked?! Please, wake me when someone is brave enough to suicide bomb Congress in session and follow it by a drone strike just in case.
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
Sun Tuz
Recent lightning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lF-yQEmXMU
The article I read on another site says that Durham is facing “Statute Of Limitations”, and only has a few days to file charges. Will that be the loophole to let this snake get away?
The original source is “the ny slimes”
“Because of a five-year statute of limitations for such cases, Mr. Durham a deadline of this weekend to bring a charge over activity from that date.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/1438313239536930818
Thank you. I read so many different sites that I don’t always remember where I have seen something.
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS……..
The clock is being run out, as it has been so many times before, on anything that will really affect those who did wrong in their attempts to destroy Trump.
As soon as I saw “statute of limitations” on Fox this morning……..I knew this would essentially be nothing.
Along with the statement about it being uncertain Durham will be funded past September 30.
That’s more than a small “tell”.
There is a two tier system of “justice”. It is undeniable. Therefore, there is no justice.
Whatsa “Durham”?…….
What is this “justus” you speak of??
Consider the source.
In full CYA mode
Absolutely no leaks out of the Durham investigation and now all of a sudden we have one. I’m not sure what to make of this news.
I thought the same thing. I also remember the whining about how many agents Durham was tying up with the investigation, and wonder how a truly thorough investigation would only nab low-hanging fruit like Sussman. Something isn’t adding up.
Even low hanging fruit gets a pass.
https://headlineusa.com/dc-bar-reinstate-fbi-clinesmith/
When no one is punished for falsifying government documents, do we have a government?
It is a part of the beginning of the end for the “Bad Guys”.
It will take God Himself to straighten out such an epic swamp of corruption as we’ve seen over the past six years. May His holy justice fall on the guilty forthwith, amen.
Amen.
You said it right.
Only God Himself can straighten out this mess.
That may be the devil in the swamp! so we are gonna need some bigtime help
Like Trump would be president by August? I admire your optimism, Fandog, but history isn’t on your side.
Trumps kind will never rise again.
When Elder was called the black face of white supremacy….
Bad guys win and there are no white hats
I don’t think this came from the investigation. It came from the legal firm as a defensive action, is the way I read it.
Durham is famous for working quietly, with no leaks. Sussmann may have leaked this so that the first news about it is the version spun by the NY Times.
Sussmann and his lawyers would have ways of knowing where things were on his case.
This is offense from the left, trying to get ahead of what is coming
This pretty much means the indictment has been delivered and the commie in charge has a decision to make
A) let it proceed because Durhams work can’t be shut down
B) decline to prosecute and then we see Durham demand Garland resign for bias/interference with special council
C) clock runs out on this angle
I saw somewhere that it was Sussman’s lawyers that leaked this story
If this comes to an indictment, Dumbledore the AG can make this disappear in seconds. The devil’s army never rests… treason, deception and lawlessness r common fare among the Godless
The entire Clinton Crime Family should have been Incinerated decades ago !
Likely they will get to work in rigging the Grand Jury now…ddn’t take long for the DOJ and the regime to leak this.
Justice delayed is justice denied
How many narrative engineers does it take to screw in a dim bulb?
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Durham shouldn’t rush or anything…
18 USC 3282 – Except as otherwise expressly provided by law, no person shall be prosecuted, tried, or punished for any offense, not capital, unless the indictment is found or the information is instituted within five years next after such offense shall have been committed.
There are exceptions, but they mostly involve major financial fraud and things like murder, terrorism, sex crimes against children…
Durham notified DOJ that he was going to indict. Does this indictment become a Placeholder for others? FISA/NSA/Awans etc…
Yes Durham, will sometime in the not to distant future release his report, I’m sure it’s done by now they are just fine tuning it and waiting for the command. A very lengthy report that will be heavily redacted so nobody can understand it. The corrupt DOJ and their keystone cop branch the FBI will be absolved of any crimes, just a few footnotes saying they made some mistakes like all humans do, but no criminal intent. Any indictments will be for theatrical purposes and all parties will get off scott free. If you expect anything else you haven’t been paying attention.
the cynical me agrees. exhibit 1: clineswortdsmith was charged with having a lessor hall pass AND recently regain his license to malpractice law again.
so yeah, my confidence this durham investigation actually has serious wheels went on permanent holiday.
even IF justice is served toward lets say Sussman AND Elias. Lets think about that possibility. Lets imagine both of these two face actual justice.
what does it accomplish now?
Seth Rich is still dead.
Julian Assange becomes even at more peril of committing suicide in prison
The laptop remains quiet
Clinton is still insulated
President Trump is still usurped…meaning WE THE PEOPLE experienced a coup
The navel gazing embecile still operates under direct CCP control
Covid Hoax continues its war of the worlds saga.
in stage 3 revolution, many peculiar events take shape…The extent of the corrupt state becomes more obvious and known. We know this. However, I just don’t have a very high opinion that the durham “indictment” of sussman or even if it also includes elias is significant to the revolution. it might cause some people to get nervous….Somebody may actually have to spend some money defending themselves in a corrupt court. But it’s not going to trigger any serious additional dissent. It’s unlikely to keep more than 50 patriots awake at night.
The revolution is happen becomes of direct unbearable PAIN.
having said that (my opinion), it IS important these matters not get ignored.
Maybe after the revolution and democracy and the rule of law is restored …there are some of us very old people who can have that fireside chat with talk about all the kinds of things that happened when evil almost went to prison.
not feeling like winning today.
I am just not feeling it today.
Sorry.
Here’s the crossroad.
Finally understanding this government, of this great nation, is so corrupt, so vile, so undeserving of our patronage and yet it survives to continue harming its citizens.
Adam Housley, former journalist turned wine businessman, still maintains contacts. (Twitter)
He’s guessing the highest Durham may go is McCabe- if they even go that high. … no elected officials will be touched. Media will downplay it. Duh.
You…you stop making the beautiful Nellie Ohr look bad ya hear?!
Thank you SUNDANCE..as always, WE APPRECIATE your steadfast dedication to helping all of us STAY INFORMED and STAY THE COURSE about VERY IMPORTANT…(critically important) facts and crimes of the state.
I just read the technofog piece. Typically, the comments section is worth scanning too.
One particular comment, I would ask treepers here to reflect on..
Dennis5 hr ago
“seeks to indict” –the indictment better come soon, the statute of limitations expires this Sunday.
hmmm…is that true…?
Stage 3 advances. The gap narrows
God Bless America
If it is true the statute of limitations expires soon, whether it is Sunday or within a couple of weeks, lots of people are guaranteed to escape justice while they indict the piano player of the whorehouse.
Let’s Go!!!
Remember when Hillary Clinton testified under oath that she did no work on Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan and then the billing records suddenly appeared and it turns out she lied? She got away with it. I think it’s a hopeful sign that in this case, the Democrats DIDN’T get away with it.
Remember when Hillary Clinton testified under oath that she did no work for Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan and then the billing records suddenly appeared that proved she was lying? She got away with it. I think it’s a hopeful sign that the Democrats DIDN’T get away with it this time.
I said it before, and I’ll say it again every time Trump-Russia comes up:
Donald Trump’s original mistake, which doomed his presidency, was not following through on his campaign promise to appoint a special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton’s email server.
President Trump was extending the olive branch, offering to leave the past in the past and let bygones be bygones. Big mistake. If he had appointed one as promised then that investigator would have immediately uncovered the small group, the coverup that was the Mid-Year Exam to whitewash Clinton’s crimes, and Crossfire Hurricane. It would have been very difficult for the conspirators to undermine Trump when they were on defense and being subpoenaed for serious crimes.
Instead, when he turned the other cheek they slit his throat. Mere weeks into his presidency the Deep State and the Big Club political operatives appointed a Special Counsel that effectively neutered the Trump Administration in most matters involving the executive branch, particularly with regard to the Intelligence Community and DOJ. It set in motion the events that led to his TWO impeachments.
Furthermore – this wasn’t some personal beef between him and Clinton. It was a crime against all of us, shredding our Constitution and subverting our republican form of government. It wasn’t for him to forgive.
I have a theory that the NYT does not have the best interest of journalism in mind when printing a story
It’s a good theory. In fact the NYT’s proves your theory daily.
My guess is the this will be a cleverly crafted process to rid the Obamas of those pesky Clinton people.
Sundance did show us how Team One (Clinton on this one) is warring with Team Two (Obama on this one). Related? Who knows. If it is, then it means that Durham is dirty and on Team Two.
From CTH:
♦ TEAM One – The Department of State is aligned with the CIA. Their media PR firms are CNN, CNNi and the Washington Post. Their ideology is favorable to the United Nations. Their internal corruption is generally driven by relationship with foreign actors. References: Hillary Clinton, Clinton Global Initiative, John McCain, Qatar, Muslim Brotherhood, Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, Cass Sunstein, Brookings Institute, Lawfare, China-centric, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Council on Foreign Relations.
♦ TEAM Two – The White House is aligned with the Pentagon (DoD) and National Security Council (NSC). Their media PR firms are domestic in nature. New York Times, Politico, etc. Their internal corruption is generally driven by domestic influence. References: Barack Obama, George Bush, Wall St, Big Banks, Multinational Corporations, Defense Contractors, FBI (state police), Judicial Branch, and community activists writ large. [Presidential elections only affect Team Two (nationalism -v- globalism). In the modern era Team One is independent.]
I’m sure there is a Team 3 that is like a Venn diagram of the two teams above.
Durham’s Russia ‘origins’ probe: Request for grand jury indictment may be hours away
https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/durhams-russia-origins-probe-grand-jury-indictment.amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16317881156953&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fdurhams-russia-origins-probe-grand-jury-indictment
How much of what Durham is doing is running up against the walls of continued funding and statute of limitations? I don’t think there will be true justice for full extent of this crime.
Adam Housley
@adamhousley
My prediction…Durham will find some significant stuff. National media will water it down. Nobody elected will face anything. Some stuff will be embarrassing. The only question is do they go after McCabe and his friends…which is the low end of big names.
11:36 PM · Sep 15, 2021
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Lego sets are infrastructure
@BigRfaze
Replying to
@adamhousley
So your sources earlier were wrong? Not being a jerk, and I may be misremembering, but I thought you were saying we’d see serious accountability.
11:40 PM · Sep 15, 2021
Adam Housley
@adamhousley
I’ve always said McCabe and company would be the biggest. Which would be big. Not sure if they are going to…remember those in high places know the grey area.
11:41 PM · Sep 15, 2021
I am positive Durham’s crew is running around the country threatening people with indictments unless they consent to an extension of the statute of limitations.
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The Awan crew steams me still. Massive crimes, let out of the country without any real jeopardy.
At the time, given the other activities they were involved with, I wondered if SR assumed room temperature after having discovered the Awans purging the dnc of their communications records.
Perhaps they became Bernie fans or just wanted to throw in some sand. They were definitely working for somebody besides Shultz. Trump should have had a special prosecutor on her. But Sessions, (Rosenstien) would likely have appointed Mark Elias or some such tool.
The second our Great American President Donald J Trump came down the escalator with our future beautiful First Lady Melania, the swamp went on attack. FISA, Russia collusion, Mueller Special council, No recess appointments stopped by McConnell, Impeachment 1&2, Wuhan Con, Mail-In ballots, Dominion, election steal and voila we get the Vegi-n-Chief.
What was his great sin, he Made America Great Again and the world, despite the constant attack from the swamp.
With all of that we must be “reasonable & sensible” while the swamp rats attempt to finish off the USA.
MAGA! …as opposed to what?
Note: Sundance, you did incredible work on this subject and in the norm asses should have been thrown in jail. Sadly normal is out of the window.
I hope I am wrong but I believe when the final report is released it is going to be shameful how much time and money has been spent by John Durham with so few substantial results. If he has been blocked and stonewalled from getting much of what he needed, he should give back his whole salary in protest. But this is wishful thinking.
The dossier appears to be based on the real life exploits captured on Hunter Biden’s autobiographical computer. What the dems accuse anyone of is what the dems are guilty of. They don’t have make stuff up, they just repackage their own dirt with a different person’s name attached to it and hand it over to the compliant press to smear whoever is in their path.
Well, I agree, and doing it this way ensures they keep their story straight- they just go back to Hunter’s hard drive to refresh their memories.
I’ve posted considerable information on this over the years on this site, including all relevant source links.
This is an important timeline that should be considered, imo.
https://medium.com/@UID_/the-dutch-intelligence-agency-aivd-hacked-the-russian-cozy-bear-hackers-their-building-heres-93f6c7959770
…”Summer 2014: A Hacker of the AIVD penetrates the network of a university building next to the Red Square in Moscow.
October 2014: Cozy Bear hackers prepare for an attack on the American State Department. They have obtained e-mail addresses and the login credentials of several civil servants. They manage to enter the non-classified part of the computer network. The Dutch directly inform the American Intelligence Agencies. What follows is an (epic) battle between attackers (Cozy Bear) and defenders (NSA and FBI) that has been well documenten in American media [1][2].
The Dutch continiously provide the Americans with new Command and Control server information the Russians use to exfiltrate data from their implants at the State Department. The Americans on their turn continously shut down connections to these servers. Eventually, the Americans manage to dispel the Russians from the Department, but not before Russian attackers use their access to send an e-mail to a person in the White House. And that is how the White House got hacked.
The Russian hackers manage to get access to the email server of Barack Obama, but fail to get access to the BlackBerry messages of Obama, said to contain State Secrets.
It’s the Dutch again that inform the Americans Cozy Bear has access to e-mail traffic with embassies and diplomats, agendas, notes on policy and legislation.
July 2015: Cozy Bear hacks the DNC.
Summer 2015: From their headquarters in Zoetermeer the AIVD hackers witness an ongoing hacking attack against the DNC. A security camera records every movement in the curved hallway of the university building the hackers are located in. Pictures are taken of every visitor. In Zoetermeer, these pictures are analyzed and compared to known Russian spies.
Autumn 2015: FBI warns the DNC. DNC does nothing.
Late 2015: NSA hackers manage to penetrate the mobile devices of several high ranking Russian intelligence officers. They learn that right before a hacking attack, the Russians search the internet for any news about the oncoming attack. According to the Americans, this indirectly proves that the Russian government is involved in the hacks.
June 2016: Crowdstrike confirms Cozy Bear and also Fancy Bear are in the DNC systems.
July 2016: WikiLeaks publishes 19 thousand emails and 8 thousand attachments of the DNC.”…
Dutch Intel informed US Intel of hacking by COZY BEAR. The dutch were watching the hackers in realtime since 2014 as they hacked the DNC, State, and WH networks.
FANCY BEAR in the DNC network is a Crowdstrike construct.
Cozy Bear is real, imo. The Dutch have the receipts on the hack, as well as what was accessed. Fancy Bear in the DNC network is a Crowdstrike coverup and attempted frame job, imo.
US Intel leaks about the Dutch operation by Richard Ledgett (to E. Nakashima at an Aspen Institute security conference https://archive.org/details/Cyber_Threats_-_Perspectives_from_the_NSA_and_FBI ) as well as leaks by Clapper, blew the Dutch cover.
Dutch were pissed. Can you imagine having secret access to Russian hackers operating in realtime, and “allied” Intel agencies, that you’re sharing the information with, casually and knowingly blow your operation? Sources and methods, my *ss.
Remember the Rentaria memo to the Soros org, about L. Lynch controlling the Clinton investigation, that impacted Comey’s decision to not prosecute Clinton? Comey said he wasn’t sure if it was Russian disinformation.
What if it came from the Dutch?
I doubt statutes of limitation will apply to this level of espionage, but I’m not a lawyer.
Five Eyes
Dutch Intel (AIVD).
Not 5 Eyes.
This timeline claims that the FBI received the Renteria memo, described as a “Russian intel doc”, on March 1, 2016.
https://clintonfoundationtimeline.com/tags/renteria-memo/
If the document came from the Dutch observing Russians hacking it, would that classify the document as Russian intel?
Related?
Did the DNC finally realize the significance of Cozy Bear in their network in 2015, along with Dutch Intel, and now a US counter intelligence investigation, and conspire to setup a 2016 intrusion controlled by Crowdstrike to frame Russia?
Preet Bharara and John Carlin set up Carter Page around April 2016
Big deal, Clinesmith already got his Law License reinstated.
Knock, Knock!
The Times’ gymnastical manipulation of the English language is laughable.
Durham? That names sounds very vaguely familiar. Where have I heard that before?
If this even gets to charges being filed it will be with an obama appointed Federal Judge and Sussmann will get the Clinesmith treatment! At tops he gets community service, very short parole, small fine and a suspended law license. He’ll be back doing the Clinton’s bidding with law license in hand within a year! Remember it’s our banana republic two tier Justice system at work in these cases against Democrats who are in the top tier! Unlike the protesters on J6 they’re in the bottom tier and subject to severe Unconstitutional punishment! So I don’t get too excited by these reports about Durham just more hope porn!
The more that these “I’m smarter than you by half” people cooked up their fanciful conspiracies, the more clearly the People saw through those conspiracies – and the people who cooked them.
The 2020 election steal – which must be overturned – was the moment when they finally ripped their masks entirely off.
This guy Sussman was Perkins Coie’s cyber guy, and I think he brought corwdstrike with him to the first DNC hack alert meeting. Went to look up the details and here was the story on the top of the list.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2018/10/04/dnc-lawyer-michael-sussman-was-providing-fbi-information-for-trump-investigation-and-fisa-warrant/
And here we thought Durham was a nothingburger?
Some how all of this appears to be house cleaning, image adjustment and a bit of rebranding ahead of the 2022 and 2024 elections (appointments). Every totalitarian movement has purges now and again to reset the movement, adjust as well as settle pecking order and mollify masses with a faux image of “we hear your complaints and the bad actors will be removed”.
Notice how quiet Comrade Obama has been. He is staying out of the line of fire to be available for future use by who ever wins the power struggle. He may loose or sacrifice a few minions along the way but he will still be there…roaches all have pretty good survival instincts.
The fun part comes when Bill Clinton cuts Hillary loose…”I did not have sex with THAT women, check with Webb Hubble”.