For several months I have been dispassionately following multiple data-streams about the SARS-CoV-2 virus, aka COVID-19, the vaccinations and the variants. Just following data; just following discussions of data; just looking at public statements by those who generate information about the data. All of it from a generally ambivalent position, willing to hear, review, contemplate and give consideration to any possibility.
♦ Should I get Vaccinated? – Like a bubble on a level, the outcome of analysis sometimes goes in one direction, sometimes goes in the other. However, for approximately 8 weeks the level has tilted. While there is still a possibility something drastic might change the big picture outcome, the weight of the data is only going in one direction now.
A recent public release from the Los Angeles County Public Health department [link here] is yet another data-point in an assembly of larger data-points, but it is time to accept that alternative data-points are not likely to tilt the analytical level back in the pro-jab direction. It seems innocuous, but look at the highlight within the statement:
(SOURCE LINK)
Essentially, the LA public health officials are stating the exact same thing that Dr. Anthony Fauci said last Sunday on CBS Face The Nation. The Mu variant is showing greater infectious transmissibility, and simultaneously the data shows this variant -yet again- has an ability to evade the vaccine induced specific antibodies.
The Delta variant had the same set of traits as described above for Mu. Greater transmissibility, greater ability to avoid vaccine induced antibodies, but less deadly than the original virus. This mutation (ie variant) is why vaccinated persons were later discovered to be capable of being infected (with higher loads of virus) and transmitting or shedding the variant at higher levels. Thus, the need for a booster to target the Delta variant (shot 3).
The Lambda variant had the same set of traits as the Delta variant. Greater transmissibility, greater ability to avoid vaccine induced antibodies, but less deadly than the Delta strain. This mutation (ie variant) is why vaccinated persons (2 shots) who also had the booster (shot 3) were capable of being infected and transmitting the next variant. Thus the need for booster shot 4 (see Israel).
The Mu variant now has the same set of traits as the Lambda and Delta variant. Greater tranmissibiltiy, greater ability to avoid vaccine induced antibodies, but likely less deadly than the Delta and Lambda strain. It is yet to be determined if booster shot 5 will be needed (Israel beta-test), or if BigPharma can blend, or as Dr. Fauci stated Sunday “mix and match”, vaccine ingredients from Delta and Mu into one mRNA booster in the U.S. which would technically be called booster one (shot three).
Bottom line, the vaccine makers are chasing variants and modifying the “vaccine” shots to keep up.
The COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, virus was created in a lab. The vaccine was created to address that virus. However, the vaccine created variants. The variants require boosters…. which generate variants…. which require boosters…. which generate variants. It seems like one long ronacoaster that you get locked into once you take the vaccine, and you ain’t getting off until the strain of the variant gets so weak that it no longer requires a booster to chase it.
If you accept the virus was created in a lab, then this quest to chase its variants does actually make sense.
This was the warning message sent out by renowned vaccine researcher Geert Vanden Bossche [SEE HERE], who received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. Dr. Bossche sent an early warning letter about this exact scenario to the World Health Organization. [pdf LETTER HERE].
Dr. Bossche is not alone in his research and opinion. This is now a widely distributed discussion amid the small world of vaccinologists, vaccine researchers and vaccine creators. The man-made nature of the virus (it was not naturally occurring, combined with a man-made mRNA approach to a vaccine as a solution, has resulted in a process that is dangerously undermining the human bodies’ natural immunity process.
Again, bottom line. The vaccines are likely creating more danger, through mutations, than the original SARS-CoV-2 virus itself.
Below are two videos to explain the dynamic at work. The first video is a recap of Dr. Bossche warning, with a metaphor to put the issue into a context that might be more familiar {Direct Rumble Link} and WATCH:
The second video is the full discussion with Dr. Bossche {Direct Rumble Link}, and the discussion includes what could happen if the vaccines are mandated to the entire world population. WATCH:
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Coved would an after thought right now without the vaccine
I know. And that’s what pi$$es me off the most about this.
Well, that and the fact that they are going full force anti HCQ, Ivermectin, and now -since it’s working in FL- regeneron.
Yes the globalists are obviously weaponizing this far beyond what it was last year. If the vaxxed want the plandemic to end they need to stop feeding it with injections that pressure the virus to mutate faster.
Well, I am currently enjoying a Rona vacation break from work. Basically day 3 of minor muscle aches and sleeping a bunch. Got it from the wife who got it from our child who probably got it from her 6 year old best friend. I have had worse cold and flu spells in my life and no freaking way does this rate getting a jab with some experimental therapy.
2 years of hand wringing bullshit and all I can think is it is all on the head of Faucci an his fellow travelers, They should be fairly arrested, fairly tried and fairly hung, no joke. No joke, this this is the result of some imbecile public health working exploiting lax oversight and government funding for what should be an illegal purpose counter to the public interest. Heads should roll, axes should swing and the tree of liberty should be watered with the blood of fools.
Brave man….sucking it up and still taking the time to give a heads up to his fellow Treepers.
Continue to feel better, ’cause the world needs more Garys! 😀
Best wishes for a speedy recovery. (Heavy drinking and a lot of sleep worked for me.)
Melatonin is supposed to help sleep. I have a gummy variety and it seems to produce a wonderfully relaxed state and sleepiness. It is actually a natural hormone in your body.
Gary,
You want them to be fairly HANGED. In that bunch of soyboys that constitute “Fauci and his fellow travelers,” you can bet your last penny there isn’t one that is “fairly hung.”
As the late actor Brian Dennehy, playing Sheriff Cobb in Silverado said, “We’re gonna give you a fair trial, followed by a first class hanging.” I can only hope this logic is applied to these traitorous bastards.
Me too Gary. Last flu I got several years ago was WAY,worse than what I got about 2 weeks ago.
A big nuisance that’s all.
And I still ain’t getting vaxxed.
My wife, daughter, and I had ours in July after having been vaccinated. I have been repeatedly told to be “glad you didn’t die”, but my symptoms were pretty much the same as yours, and pretty much the same as everyone else who got covid: congestion, headache, fatigue and my wife lost taste/smell.
It’s apparently a borderline criminal act to point out that 90% of “covid” cases amount to harmless summer colds.
It’s actually 99 percent of Covid cases that are mild. So it is disingenuous for the CDC to suggest that vaccines make any difference in the severity of symptoms, which already occur in only 1 percent of covid patients without vaccines.
Am right there with you Gary. Grandkids moved from California 12 days ago and brought Covid with them. My husband, kids and grandkids all positive and have either gotten monoclonal antibodies or will get them tomorrow. I’m the only one negative. Praise God.
None of us are getting jabbed. No way.
The entire cabal need to be charged with crimes against humanity and hung.
Get well soon.
Lax oversight?? Seriously??? THIS WAS DONE ON PURPOSE!! BIOWARFARE!!!
Mine was a runny nose and cough (sounds like a cold, yes?) and I tested positive for rona. But wait! I read somewhere the
PCR test doesn’t differentiate between the flu, the common cold or the rona! So, did I really have the rona or a cold?
Oh well! I got a 14 day paid staycation.
Not true in my case. I had that awful 2 week head cold in early August that’s been going around, and wanted to know if it was covid or not. (I am 66 and my 91 yr old mom lives in the same apt. bldg as me, so I would have pushed to get monoclonal antibodies early.) I had a low grade fever that hung on and sore throat the first night that morphed into a head cold, stuffy runny nose, and occasional cough — so the teledoc said the symptoms overlapped with Delta and I should get tested to be sure. Both my home antigen kit and my Cleveland Clinic PCR tests came out negative. Just saying, in my case, the test did differentiate between covid and a cold.
Just sayin, watch it, because week two can be a whole lot more than week one. Week one was routine, week 2, 3, and 4 was anything but. Friends, treat with anti-virals at the start, and anti-inflammatories. Look up the Zelenko protocol, or americasfrontinedoctors.md, get their protocol, have it ready. Take the prophylaxis, if you get Covid, call AFD right away, don’t worry about the 200 dollars, pay it, get your meds, it’s well worth it. Try not to go to the hospital, they won’t do anything for you except put you on a vent. The meds are the thing. Have your written protocol, and you or your spouse tell them this is what you want to take. Tell them no vent. No. Vent. They have pressurized oxygen and Budesonide which has had good results. NO Remdesivir. Consider monoclonal antibodies early. They help your immune system fight it. If you don’t have Ivermectin, taking higher dose Vit D3, Vit C and Zinc, Quercetin, acts as an antiviral. One of these is an “ionophore”, something that opens up your cell so the Zinc can get in there. And pray folks. Ask God to be with you and help you. God was, is, and always will be the God of love and miracles. Trust Him.
And aspirin!
The aspirin is a blood thinner that helps prevent blood clots from forming, as both the virus and the injections contain spike proteins that form clots.
After consulting with myself, for the last 5 seconds, it’s unanimous. A vaccine is not in my future.
Took you a while to mull it over, I see.
I made that decision in a fraction of the time.
We are all definite, yet they keep calling us “hesitant” and “reluctant” — to subliminally press the idea that we WILL give in…eventually. No, not really.
“Bottom line, the vaccine makers are chasing variants and modifying the “vaccine” shots to keep up.”
Very similar to the DOD’s Whack a Mole that chases variants of Islam in the Islamic Middle East.
Covid-19 = Islam.
With say: Delta = AlQ, Mu = ISIS, Lambda = Taliban, etc., mix and match ad infinitum..
AND the DOD is even worse at this game than the vaccine makers and charges way more.
Well done Dr Bossche. At last an insider telling the truth. However, it is a great pity people didn’t listen to the much maligned ANTI-VAXXERS who have warned about the attacks on our natural immunity for decades!!!
Vander Bossche has been saying this since late January early February. He has been ostracized and silenced my The fake MSM. As President Trump said, “the fake news is the enemy of the people”, he is 100% correct. This entire charade is now well past just corruption, its pure evil. Just look what s going on with HCQ and Ivermectin.
I’m with you, Edward. Myocarditis, guillaine-barre, MS to name a few- they aren’t new and they often happen “mysteriously”.
*scooby pulls mask off the perpetrator- LOOK AT THAT, big PHARMA.
and the latest; “died after a short illness”
I’m with you, Edward. Myocarditis, guillaine-barre, MS to name a few- they aren’t new and they often happen “mysteriously”.
*scooby pulls mask off the perpetrator- LOOK AT THAT, big PHARMA.
And referred to as nut-jobs and conspiracy theorists.
Vaccines use to be reliable but they have changed their approach making them dangerous. It use to be that babies were not given vaccines until after age one. The digestive system is not well developed before that time. Now that get them jabbed just months after birth.
Hep B is given at birth, unless you jump up and down screaming you don’t want it while watching your baby 24/7, or have a home birth. A vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease. Given at birth. WTF?
minutes after birth, actually
There used to be 3-6 vaccines given after the age that a child can develop the immune system that would protect them for the rest of their lives. Now they push 74 plus vaccines on children from birth to 18 years and they require boosters to work. It is all about the money and all that vaccination leads to alot of other particles introduced that are harmful especially those that the body cannot clear. I am not an anti-vaxx person, but may become one as of now.
Me too. In hindsight, the anti/vaxxers obviously knew what they were talking about.
Yes, it is rather amusing that people preface their refusal to be lab rats by first insisting they are not anti-vaxxers by nature. I was never one either, but by golly I sure am one now!
No more vaccines for me! Fool me once ..and I’m done.
Yes..I have seen these vids and Del Bigtrees blackboard explanation of the Geert Vanden Bossche statements really helps a person get a clear picture on it.
And once they start the booster jabs, then the person getting the jab almost certainly will get seriously ill at some stage, and they will also become an Antibody Dependant Enchancement breeding ground for new Variants…this is a man made, politically induced nightmare.
And another thing is why doesn’t any interviewer ask Trump about this, tell him that the evidence is leaning very strongly in this direction? They are not only not safe, they are dangerous on so many levels.
I know he said that vaccinations should never be mandatory, well that’s not good enough, I like Trump, he was a leader with some balls and some vision, but the should “never be mandatory” statement is weak and does not cut it.
Scott Morrison in Oz says the same thing, but all the CEOs and Airlines and Corporations are pushing it …and he more or less says good luck, do what you need to do, in other words they do the dirty work, this is beyond cowardly and many people here know it, same with Sky News, no one will stand up and say, these vaccines are going to create a problem that may take generations to fix..at best, and at worst they are deadly, once the person comes into contact with a new mutation, and that’s aside of all the other spike protein issues.
With all the other BS that’s going on the world, the inflation, the RE emergence of the Taliban, China etc..etc..this has to be the No 1 issue, that’s hammered home until people understand what these vaccines are.
And that’s why if there are any new Trump interviews, the interviewer needs to address this on a multi layered level.
Not just Trump, any politician who runs for anything needs to be asked a lot of questions, and somehow or other Big Pharma needs to be stopped.
I am not a fan of all of Mike Adams video, he goes off the rails from time to time… but he ..and others..incl Sundance instinctively know this is the No 1 issue above everything else.
“I know he said that vaccinations should never be mandatory, well that’s not good enough, I like Trump, he was a leader with some balls and some vision, but the should “never be mandatory” statement is weak and does not cut it.”
Being in favor of freedom always cuts it.
Agreed..in a normal and sane world this is true, but I am biased because I have seen our weak.,so called PM here in Oz (supposed to be a conservative) he has said vaccinations should never be mandatory to forced, while allowing CEO’s, Airlines, Schools to force it with his silent blessings.
Its a weak stance and a con job, and too easy to pass the buck to others to do the dirty work.
Agreed, no one should endorse these death jabs.
I wonder if they lied about jnj vaccine because it doesn’t create spike proteins to Lodge through out your body.
The interesting thing to any responses that follow, will be fed news narratives. Jnj is not mRNA period.
J&J doesn’t use mRNA tech but ultimately you end up with the spike protein inside you and the inherent risks associated with that. You end up with the same immunity issues that the spike protein produce in those who took vaccines that introduce it via mRNA
You get the total number of spikes that was in the injection.
With mRNA the virus delivery system ( similar to adenovirus) delivers it to every cell to make the spike protein ( in every cell)
Jj u are reacting to a spike in your body.
Other mRNA vaxs you are getting the spike made in every cell of.your body.
How does the mRNA get into your cell to make it (edit= it, the spike protein)
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Whiteboard, I think the DNA J&J vax still goes through your rna. Not sure if it has a different end result. Hope so!
You are right that the J and J is not an mRNA vaccine. But it is just as bad, unfortunately. This is from Nebraska Medicine website.
The Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) vaccine uses a slightly different approach than the previous two COVID-19 (Pfizer and Moderna) vaccines. The Johnson & Johnson product is an adenovirus vaccine or a viral vector vaccine. Here is how it works.
The Johnson & Johnson vaccine delivers the virus’ DNA to your cells to make the spike protein. An adenovirus acts as a delivery vehicle used to carry the coronavirus genetic material (DNA). The adenovirus delivers the little piece of DNA to the cell that will then make the spike protein. After your cells produce the spike protein, your immune system creates antibodies toward the spike protein, protecting you from infection.
“Agreed, no one should endorse these death jabs.”
Should we make the jab against the law?
Asking for a friend.
I completely agree. I’m disgusted with all the politicians that are still telling people to get a vaxx they know is dangerous. They should be ashamed of themselves.
As someone expecting to lose their job due to vaxx mandates, I’m not real forgiving on the vaxx weakness. I can’t be bothered to vote for anyone going forward who didn’t stand up for the right of the people not to be injected in order to eat or keep a roof over their head or get medical treatment, etc.
As for the GOP-E sure I’m going to care about capital gains taxes with no house and no food. I’m basically sick of all of them.
No, its a lot more than “ashamed of themselves” they should tremble in fear as they have aided in whats happened.
Hopefully you won’t lose your job. Exemptions are offered because employers are legally required to obtain consent. If you stick to your guns and refuse to consent, the exemption will stick.
“may take generations to fix”
No, what he is saying is there won’t be future generations. There is going to be a die off.
Agree. In my opinion, the government is ‘culling the herd,’ trying to kill off the weak, old and sickly. They say people are living too long and costing too much. Yet China is now letting their families have 3 kids instead of the 2, which started out as only 1 in an effort to control population growth of the billions of Chinese. Hmmm…
Like it or not, President Trump has to appease all citizens of the US, and there are many who are fanatical about getting vaccines. He has to allow those people to have what they want, and allow people who choose not to be dependent on vaccines to have what they want. All politicians once elected should represent all of us, not just the half that voted them in.
BALDERDASH.
That is a fantasy of impossibility.
The very least he could do is tell the truth, that these are NOT vaccines and are WORTHLESS, and DO cause death and permanent debilitating injuries in TOO MANY PEOPLE TO KEEP RECOMMENDING THEM OR THE BOOSTERS.
So all people should do diligent research to learn the truth, and let that WEIGHT their decision to get jabbed or not. It’s their freedom, their life. Consider well.
There’s no excuse for pandering to the stupid people. Truth ALWAYS “represents” what is factual and right. THAT should be the only thing that matters.
One thing to do is stop calling them “vaccines” and call them what they are, CRISPR mRNA gene editing injections that permanently alter your natural genetic functions. Look that up: CRISPR, CRISPR-Cas9 and educate everyone you can. This is a massive, coordinated crime against humanity. God help us! God help us!
I agree mRNA is a lot more lethal than a normal vaccine.
Excellent analogy to explain…. I wonder if all the “smart people” pushing for mandates etc… actually ever got any of the vaccines themselves ?…
I’m betting there are a bunch of dumbasses in the media who did. I don’t believe Biden did or BO or any Bushs or Clintons. And I’m guessing most senators and the House leadership didn’t.
You know that Gates and Fauci didn’t.
Does anyone else think it a bit odd that no big name politicians, except for President Trump, have come down with this virus – no governor, no senator, no congressman that I know of. Maybe I missed it. Fauchi, Newsome, Pelosi, Schumer all living it up at big parties, etc. without masks, no distancing.
Yes, and they don’t seem to be in any fear of contracting it either.
Odd – perhaps. Sinister – more likely.
https://ballotpedia.org/Government_official,_politician,_and_candidate_deaths,_diagnoses,_and_quarantines_due_to_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020-2021#Notable_influencers_who_tested_positive_for_coronavirus
Politicians who have had the covid
Lindsey was sick despite being vaxxed.
Actually a bunch of politicians did get it. But despite being probably some of the most unhealthy old people around, none of them has been hospitalized or severely ill with it.
Axios, “New Hampshire speaker of the House dies of COVID-19,” December 10, 2020
All that blindly trusted did. All that didn’t blindly trust but we’re afraid got the JnJ UNLESS they had FAKENEWS affect them by saying jj was worse that Pfizer ( puff story paid for by Pfizer)
I agree. When they showed them getting the vax I always thought it was faked or saline. Trump too. I bet he didn’t get it.
Apparently “Therapeutics” which Trump had, are classified as vaccines.
The video below is the closest to what these poisonous ‘jabs’ contain:
https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/25b6.svgNewsbreak 133|BREAKING: Dr. Young Reveals Graphene, Aluminium, LNP Capsids, Parasite in 4 Vaccines ~ 8/27/21 ~ https://www.bitchute.com/video/Z2sAH0Woz38r/
Yeah I couldn’t figure out why he’d get a vaccine when he already had COVID
The fact that admist a swarm of mandates, it isn’t mandated for employees at the FDA and CDC speaks volumes, no?
these are NOT mandated to have jabs whitehouse cdc fda moderna pfizer j &j who nih and congress
For me, there was never any consideration regarding this kill shot. The bubble on the level never went anywhere. It was always resting on a crooked piece of nonsense.
Anyone who has even considered taking the vaccine is a clueless and fear-bound. Sorry. If you know your science, even at the high school level, then you should know that a vaccine during a pandemic is not a good thing. Never. Ever. Plus, the very nature of these “vaccines” is suspicious. An mRNA? What??? Aborted fetal parts? Mercury? Spike proteins?
Plus, why the hell would you want to get vaccinated against something that is more than 99% survivable, especially if you are healthy?
Sorry. For me, there was never a consideration at all about this game plan, about taking this crap. And, things that I learned back in January 2021 are now reaching fruition. These variants you are writing about, well, I knew back then they were coming.
Where were the rest of you?
Vaccine disappeared from my wish list by August 2020.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181
I watched Lou Dobbs in February of 2020- he was beside himself interviewing govt officials. “WHEN WILL WE HAVE A VACCINATION”. I thought, oh shit, we’ve lost sanity. Demanding a man made vaccine for a man made virus. It can’t get any more insane. Yet, here we are. And yes, the mask shaming and mandates were the test run for vaccine mandates.
God protect us from the NIH, CDC, FDA and all WHO will death for the masses.
I have several weeks to get the jab or lose my job. As the sole wage earner in my home, my back is against the wall.
I feel as if I have a gun against my head. Exceptions can be had but we all know what will happen to those folks.
I’m updating my will. Some may consider this melodramatic but I have decided, if it isn’t time to go, then I will meet my maker.
Gonna pray something changes for you before the deadline.
let them fire you then get a lawyer and a trump judge. Sue for millions.
Seriously. This is Nuremberg type sh#t.
I know a nurse who submitted a religious exemption asking for accommodation; if they don’t want her near patients, she will take a desk job…
Good luck, praying for you.
I know of a nurse in administration who was approved for exemption because her whole department works remotely. I mean, it makes zero sense to compel anyone to sign up for a medical experiment from a legal standpoint, especially if they are working from home.
It is diabolical to refuse any exceptions. These people are really flexing their authoritarian muscle and if there is no pushback it gets much worse from here.
Fight for your family’s sake if not your own. We are a free people.
I’m going to throw this out there for you. Not sure if it would help your situation,
But just in case, take a peek.
Best of luck on however this works out for you and your family.
https://news.gab.com/2021/07/29/important-download-covid-vaccine-religious-exemption-documents-here/
Find a nurse that thinks similar and let the shot rain , documented received. Next
It’s a crime for people like you to be put in such an awful position. I pray you do well whatever choices you make.
IMHO, there ARE Jobs available, in aplenty,…but you only get ONE body.
And while it doesn’t apply to me personally, as I am retired, any employer that would require employees to take the jab, is an employer I would not want to work for.
I quit jobs for a lot less reason that that, on more than one occasion.
And often found that leaving a lousy job, I ended up being in a much BETTER place.
Take faith. God will provide for you and your family. Trust Him, and you will see He will take you to better than your imagination can even fathom.
vinny. Go to Fontline Doctors and get the Ivermectin cocktail and hydroxychloroquinne. Take the hydroxy/zinc before the jab and the Ivermectin with the antibiotic after. Well. I am no doctor but you choose. If you can’t get either of those two drugs, Quercetin with zinc is over the counter and acts in the same way as these other two. It opens the cell and prevents the virus from replicating. It’s worth a try.
Maybe you can neutralize the vax to some degree.
Until a month from now when you are required to take a booster shot? And then another? Once those spike proteins damage your heart, lungs and brain it is irreversible. Why play Russian roulette with your immune system at all?
Why suicide yourself? That’s not good for your family at all. I know what will happen to those who take the exemption. They will live to see another day and continue to support their families.
When you “consent” to take part in a medical experiment you forfeit your insurance. Don’t count on your healthcare plan to cover any medical issues that arise. Ditto for your life insurance.
I would insist on the religious exemption because I value my life too much to throw it away.
Fight it. Religious exception. In worst case try this treatment for vaccinated people. Look at #8 treatment. https://www.flemingmethod.com/best-available-published-evidence
A Frontline Dr. can help, https://speakwithanmd.com/americasfrontlinedoctors/
or Dr. Zelenco https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/
Read this, very interesting points: If You Do Not Want the Experimental Vaccine Send This to HR
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/allan-stevo/if-you-do-not-want-the-experimental-vaccine-send-this-to-hr/
I give a pass to the folks that are naive and trying to do what’s best for themselves.
No pass given to those that should know better or those who believe they know what’s better for other people.
I think people need to lean on God to help them, and nobody else. This is a test of faith, above all else.
Like you, never considered it at all. And I am sick and tired of hearing about old people being more suscetible blah blah. I’m in my 70’s and healthier than a lot of young folks I know…so blah blah…I do not like being categorized for any reason, age, sex, education…I am who I am….I’d rather die a free person than live a slave to fear and mandates and threats.
I agree with Eric Clapton: tv causes covid. I don’t own one so just think about it; if you didn’t watch tv you would most likely not know this covid thing existed and people who got sick just had the flu. Turn off the tube…and stay healthy.
Love this. Could not agree more. You and me both, LF.
The shot heard round the world.
Well said
Alvin,
I’m right there with you, was NEVER a consideration.
When PDJT first mentioned HCQ, I did extensive research, and then ordered 240 doses of it and AZT, from my pharmacist in India.
Been dealing with him for over 10 years. I am my family Dr, when I go to a Dr, it is just to get a second opinion, or to get a test, procedure or medication I detirmine is needed.
I would NEVER take a medication, based solely on a Dr “ordering” it, nor undergo a procedure, etc.
I sure as hell ain’t gonna take an untested vaccine, willingly being an uncompensated drug test participant. Can’t understand anyone who would, …
So many are living under so many delusions,..perhaps, in ONE sense, the elites ARE correct; a large percentage of the population really ARE “too stupid to live”?
Not the Chinese, apparently. They have hundreds of millions of people and are smart enough *not* to submit to the mRNA experiments that they foisted on US.
Same. At first, treated it like the flu shot, which I’ve never gotten despite decades on earth, because — c’mon, we grew up withe the flu (not to mention measles, mumps, chicken pox, and scarlet fever)
This seemed the same. And A disease you have to test to know you have? That the gov keeps trying to push, push, push? That they keep calling “cases,” letting you know they’re treating a positive viral test the same as being deathly ill?
Naw.
From the first video: “Everybody getting the vaccine is destroying their innate immune system. Those immune antibodies that were nonspecific, that could have handled any of those thousands of variants … you just assured yourself that there are no antibodies inside of you to fight the variants.”
But I have a question: If the above was true, wouldn’t everyone who contracted any of the variants automatically die from it? Would not each variant carry 100% mortality, since our bodies could not fight them?
I cannot get past this, because we already know that the variants are NOT 100% lethal, and in fact carry lethality less than the original, which itself is less than 1% lethal absent comorbitities. To me, his entire argument falls apart in the face of what we have already witnessed.
What am I missing here?
There is evidence that the vaccine has harmed our immune system, since pre-existing viruses in your body are likely to erupt once more. And other indications that it is harmed via an increase in cancers.
But like you, I am not sure if the harm is so great in most of us. Neither am I sure that the old jab induced antibodies stick around forever. Indeed, that is one of this jab’s failings. It doesn’t initiate the antibodies that show long term protection has been achieved.
But on the other hand, this virus has not been horribly fatal to most of the infected. So maybe it won’t become such a killer quickly.
But you are sure that any protein product created in your body goes somewhere.
And that all mRNA makes protein.
So you know ALL mRNA shots implanted protein making code into EVERY CELL to use your translation machinery to convert a virus delivered vaccine into every cell that makes a protein from their manufactured inserted code.
Jj = 1 taste of virus component to train immune system.
Pfizer, AZ, moderna , all mRNA vaccines = virus delivery system to infect every cell with mRNA to be translated.
Why? Because u can’t translate mRNA to protein outside of the cell. The delivery of the mRNA is via a virus that naturally enters all cells, every cell, all of your cells in your body within minutes.
You are witnessing the TEST of an invivo genetic modifications.
mRNA can call for proteins that assist with transposing, meaning inserting into your nuclear code also.
Gods are being created now, with zero fear just of us, because once a platform is planted ( the protein product in every cell) it can be docked from air sprayed updates. World wind
I can only share an example. My cardiologist cautioned me about a year ago- not to get sick.
I have lingering myocarditis from a tetanus shot (DTap)- since you can’t get just a tetanus shot anymore. She was letting me know that a problem with the vaccine damage to my heart, is that further illness could be very risky.
I did just watch Dr Zelenko say that people who had the Covid shots need to be ready to treat even a runny nose EARLY.
Here’s the clip.
https://rumble.com/vm0fqp-dr.-zev-zelenko-covid-genocide-very-nefarious-sinister-purpose.html
That;’ a great talk w/ Dr. Zelenko.
Thanks for posting!
A young adult friend of a family member was hospitalized for about a week late spring/early summer for what was finally diagnosed as a recurrence of a latent virus; he was pretty sick and miserable. Yes, vaxxed, but as far as I know no connection was made.
“Quickly” being the operative word. Even two weeks post injection, these experts contort themselves to make any health issues seem unrelated to the injection. What about six months from now? A year?
I have already seen graphs that show a sharp spike in mortality as soon as the injections were commonly given out. Here’s the thing. It’s not the variants themselves that are lethal. It is the injections that unleash a lethal cocktail in your bloodstream and vital organs. THEY are lethal.
There are so many scientific studies and articles that explain how ADE works and how it exacerbates disease in vaccinated individual. It doesn’t absolutely cause death in everyone but makes it much worse for those affected.
Here’s Sharryl Atkinson’s non-technical article on the topic. Maybe it will explain the situation to your satisfaction.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/study-why-so-many-vaccinated-people-are-getting-sick/
Thank you
Someone else posted another article above but I can’t seem to find it. I think it explains everything about this topic in great detail. It’s really excellent.
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html
One aspect to consider … There are prayer warriors storming heaven on behalf of their friends and family who have been “vaxxed” that the Lord reverse any potential damage and keep them healthy.
Good question! One answer I heard is that there may have been different formulations; there’s some possible evidence for this but not definitive at this time. So, some folks may literally just received saline, for instance.
Hi Trapper – a hodge-podge of thoughts rambling ’round in muh head……
The jab is fresh. We can’t evaluate the degree of harm from 6 month’s observation.
Israel and a few other countries are Ultra-Vaxxed, and they’re already showing signs that being vaxxed results in worse outcomes.
“Less lethal than the original”…. Ummm, in naturally occurring viruses maybe. Not with G-O-F engineered viruses, mixed with AIDS segments.
I think this upcoming flu season and the general passage of time will prove out these predictions of increased harm.
Also, everything is not absolute. Its not 100% lethal or 100% antibody immune. Think in degrees and watch for signs that those degrees are shifting.
Blows my mind that Israel keeps doubling down on this.
Would’ve thought they’d want to keep their pop. healthy.
It’s a mystery.
Ever heard someone successful describe his younger self as being too dumb to realize he was doomed to fail in a certain endeavor, so he tried and accidentally succeeded?
Well, there is the arrogance of intellect. Too smart to realize they are being dumb.
The Pfizer, JnJ, Moderna etc mRNA vax groups are raking in thousands of millions of taxpayer dollars.
But the amount of money that will flow to whatever research group comes up with solution to the immune system emergency which will soon break upon the vaxxed millions …. that group will be the wealthiest group in the history of the world. Somewhere in the solution, if it is possible, if they fully understand to a molecular level, is a cure to cancer as well.
Place your bets… I would bet on Tel Aviv tech over any others.
I’ll toss out another bit of info. I had both Moderna shots last winter. Recently I woke up feeling crappy with a very sore throat and white spots in my throat. That day I had a strep test and a covid test (which includes influenza A and B) and all came back negative, both immediate and cultured. Treated with nothing, the next day it was all gone and I was fine. Clearly my immune system produced whatever antibodies were required to destroy whatever it was I had, so clearly the Moderna vax did not wipe out my immune system.
That said, I do not plan on getting any boosters, because it appears we have enough data now to indicate the Wuhan virus, in all its variants, is not terribly lethal absent other health issues that result in compromised immune systems. Countries that are going with developing natural immunity appear to be doing better than the ones that decided to put all their money on vaccines. The Fauci [spit] experiment is not over yet.
Thx for posting your experience, trapper.
It some good news for people who read here and have been vaxxed, especially those who may now regret it.
All is not lost!
I know most of the vax posts here tend toward doom and gloom.
Did they do a blood test to show whether or not you had the specific anitbodies against Covid> because there is a test to show that and they are using it to prove that after you get the disease you are immune to it. That is what the soldiers are showing to prove they don’t need to get vaxxed if they already had Covid.
No, I haven’t had the antibodies test yet. If and when they try to require booster shots, I plan to get it then to use to refuse the booster. No need for a shot if I am already immune, right? Last time I checked the antibodies test was available to anyone who wants it, $38 at CVS.
Anyway, I suspect I had covid in early 2020. A number of folks I know have a memory of a VERY strange “cold” they had in the winter of 2020, unlike anything they ever had before. Comparing notes, it sounds like we had the same thing. Who knows? I may have had immunity before I got the vax.
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This might help…
Say you have 10 innate antibodies in your system for easy math.
These 10 innate antibodies prior to any jab are considered Generalist Antibodies meaning they can attack all comers. Cancer, flu, corona and all variants because they are generalist that can see all comers.
My understanding from the video is after you get the jab let’s say 7 of these 10 generalist antibodies turn into Specific Antibodies and in this case because the vaccine is for the Alpha version (i.e. the original COVID not Delta) they can only see and attack Alpha Corona.
This leaves you with just 3 Generalist Antibodies to do the work and take on future variants. The problem is these specific antibodies are also bullies who can end up blocking out or making it harder for your 3 Generalists antibodies from “making the tackle” of the virus.
So you are more susceptible to viruses and all variants and it takes longer to win the battle meaning your condition is more serious.
Hope this helps,
A big worry for the COVID vaxx is that it is “leaky”. That is, it does NOT immunize and does not stop transmission. In cases like that, you may wind up with a situation like Marek’s Disease in chickens. This disease was originally benign but starting in the 60’s leaky vaccines were developed which allowed highly toxic strains of the virus to develop. As a consequence, Marek’s Disease is now extremely deadly (almost always fatal).
This is a video explaining how leaky vaccines can cause these “hot” viruses to develop.
Another fear is…
During a pandemic when we needed our government’s help they instead pursued profit. Profit. Profit.
They started throwing that word ‘leaky’ around after they realized that the shot leaked out of the muscle tissue and started circulating all over the body including it passing the blood/brain barrier. So, holy shite, it didn.t stay where we thought it would and start making spike proteins in the deltoid, it leaked everywhere ! Holy shite, that is gonna start all kinds of trouble. One of the effects of it becoming systemic instead of staying localized is that it can give rise to immune resistant varients that they can then pass to the population. In order to both deny their culpability in that happening and try to explain it, they started telling the population that it was a leaky vaccine that doesn’t protect the vaxxed from varients that suddenly started to appear for no reason or fault of the brewers of this concoction. It was very early after they gave the first shots that I noted their admission that it was intended to stay in the deltoid muscle, then they started telling people different …
I am not sure that this expert is right about the antibodies lasting. There have been indications and measurements that show the jab produced antibodies fading quite rapidly.
If true, there is a chance that the jabbed can start to heal their immune system. Just don’t take anymore jabs. Get off the RonaCoaster.
Unfortunately, it is also true that the jab is selecting for mutations that will bypass it. That has been documented too.
And the failure of Israel’s third jab to stop delta proves that delta evades the jab even before it starts waning. Which is why the lying fraud is suddenly talking up creating new jabs.
New jabs that will fail by design, just like the old jabs failed by design.
There have been indications and measurements that show the jab produced antibodies fading quite rapidly.
Indications and measurements from whom? Who do you trust? WHO? fauci? CDC? FDA? If
I believe almost NOTHING that comes from the feds! I’m pushing seventy and I have a hard time remembering anything the feds have gotten correct in my life time.
C’mon man, the jabs don’t fail- they are not designed to do anything but make money for politicians, the doctors in on the play and big pharma execs. The jabs work very well at their intended purpose.
Is the memory there to.build up antibodies if you the thing is identified is behind enemy lines?
Someone please ‘splain this to me?
If antibodies goes away or don’t last long , as mentioned above with the vaccines.
Does it at least train your immune system to store a recognition of the virus, so that once infected it RE-PRODUCES the antibodies that were said to disappear over time from the covid vaccine.
Hope that helps.
Thank you. An interesting question.
Can a vaxed person be treated with a therapy instead of a new vax?
FLCCC.net has treatment protocols to address that.
Yup. That is, in my view, hands down the most incredible resource. Packed with information and they update their protocols every week (prophylaxis, treatment for early disease, treatment for hospitalized patients, and treatment for long covid).
You can until you are surrounded metaphorically by the mandate ( work etc).
We are all letting others be hurt and abandoned because the EYE is not on us yet.
If we only can find the message to say the time is now. We must stand together.
Where is miller? His antilawfare firm? Tell us to fund you and you find 1 find 1 find 1 find 1 . FIND 1 federal judge to stop the mandate, temporary restrain it.
Just like what the DoAndNotTalkDems did to Florida and Texas with the masks.
Accept that you will eat less. You will fight for your home, you will have to.get neighborly. And it’s time.
Dr Zelenko has a protocol for the vaxxed. http://www.VladimirZelenko.com
I believe so.
Here’s something interesting, in the ads for this site, there is an ad for the “College Park area“ for a yellow fever shot and has a picture of a needle going into a woman’s arm.
Robert Malone’s 2 part interview by Epoch Times’ Jan Jekielek is instructive.
I’ve now been in hospital 5days icu. 11 total. I’m 73 and working hard to recover. No vaccine. Sometimes I feel like I’m wearing a tinfoil hat but I’ve suspected all along the shot was the real delivery system of biological weapons. This was never a leak. Intelligence is here on a daily. I’m making a baby step recovery. I’ve informed my family and friends many times. No vaccine. MAGA
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Have you asked for Ivermectin or Regeneron?
At 73, I would hollering, as PDJT did, ‘what have I got to lose? A right to try something which has shown to be effective . . .?’
“Even though you might be dying We can’t let you try Ivermectin it might keel you!”
Once the medical mafia gets it’s hooks into you you are riding a whirlwind where you may be powerless to direct your treatment!
Judge Reverses Order That Forced Hospital To Administer Ivermectin
https://news.yahoo.com/judge-reverses-order-forced-hospital-153019632.html?_guc_consent_skip=1631029499
Yep why is a federal judge more powerful than anything?
They Automatically get to rule, and have that decision stayed until the next ruling.
I was once apon a time working in a federal bldg and a federal judge wanted something from me I could not deliver. Cool air.
My good friend and Hahvahd lawyer told me a federal judge was as close to God as I was ever going to meet on this Earth and try to avoid him until the parts were available to cool this judge.
That’s awful. Didn’t you receive monoclonal antibodies, at the very least?
Be well quickly. Many here on this site are praying for your very quick recovery.
Godspeed sir. You’ve made your wishes known. May He restore you to good health and imbue those looking after you with kindness and right practice, as they are all sworn to do.
In todays AmericanThinker, an article by someone who got Covid, what he did right, in preparing for the eventuality, and what he could have done better.
Reccomended reading.
By Robert Jones.
I saw that one. I visit AT immediately after I read the open prayer thread here. Unfortunately, AT has disabled comments, under threat of being deplatformed. You are correct. It was one of their better articles.
Hang in there, prayers to you.
Praying for your good health and healing, Patrick Geagan!
Nebulized budesonide doesn’t seem as controversial as other medicine requests. Also, vitamin IV therapy? Obviously would want the ivermectin or hydroxy. Or Regeneron- but not sure you’ll get it.
Okay, from Dr Richard Urso (link to his Twitter below). the front line doctors have recently tweaked the protocols.
Hydroxychloriquine OR Ivermectin
H1 blocker- cyprohepadine
H2 blocker- Pepcid
Leukotriene- Singulair
Antibiotic
Nebulized steriods – budesonide or albuteriol
Melatonin
High dose vitamin D
https://mobile.twitter.com/richardursomd
Wishing you a complete & speedy recovery.
Get willing members of your family to secretly get Ivermectin, zinc picolinate, Quercetin, vitamins D3 and C to you, and take them when the nurses/doctors aren’t around.
Those family members can easily get the protocols from the American Frontline Doctors and/or Dr. Zelenko; several people have posted the links here.
And if you’re able/ambulatory, try to get released “on your own” from the hospital. Then you can take whatever you want in your own home.
So they’re experimenting again trying to come up with a so-called vaccine/gene-therapy that will be effective against the variant du jour, and they’re using the U.S. population as the experimental test subjects (AKA guinea pigs). And lemme guess, they’re experimental and being used and tested under an Emergency Use Authorization, which means the pharmaceutical companies are shielded from just about any liability, right?
The reason I wont get vaxxed is due to the mRNA component. The Dr from Trinidad was spot on with his analysis that SD posted the other day. What will eventually happen to the loyal vaxxers? God only knows, but the possibility of creating incompatible DNA within certain organs cells can be devastating….or even creating antigens that would attack healthy tissue. I liken the vax to a brown recluse bite which can come back to haunt the victims years after the bite.
I donate blood several times a year, and so far my antigen test has come back negative, although Im still waiting for the results of my last donation. I asked the phlebotomist if the vaxxed would produce the blood needed in the help to fight against covid. He said no, and only those who have actually had covid would produce the needed antigens.
Ill stay in the ‘control’ group, and avoid riding that roller coaster.
Yes, I posted the transcript of that interview here before.
It is time we stopped listening to Fauci, the psychopath and mad scientist. He is the fear-mongering mouthpiece of big Pharma and the lunatic globalist crowd, whose purpose is money, power and control.
No jab for me, no matter how difficult they make my life. We need to fight back and if it means throwing gravel at politicians, like was done to Prime Minister Trudeau, then so be it. They need to be afraid of us, and they aren’t.
I don’t believe a single word coming out of Fauci’s mouth which is one of many reasons I will not ever take the vaccine for covid.
Thank you for this piece, Sundance. It is greatly appreciated.
This kind of work is what makes this site very unique because while there is political commentary and analysis, there is also work like this that amasses a lot of data from numerous credible resources and puts it out there for readers. It’s very difficult to keep up w/covid-related info because so much of it is either manipulated, outright hidden from view, or simply not collected. It’s exhausting to stay abreast of the lastest news (such as news is anymore) and to vet different resources for credibility. It’s also a moving target as the virus mutates, vaccine efficacy declines, the government grabs increasing power, and the reality of figuring out how to live w/this damned virus that China unleashed upon the world sinks in more and more.
Ho hum, why should citizens expect to have medical care in a “crisis“?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/afghan-crisis-wreaking-havoc-on-northern-virginia-hospitals-due-to-lack-of-federal-planning-local-officials-say/2021/09/07/5642a2aa-0fef-11ec-bc8a-8d9a5b534194_story.html
“In another case, a hospital near the Dulles Expo Center that federal officials designated as a go-to spot for medical treatment began running out of available beds, forcing the hospital to turn away non-Afghan patients who weren’t in need of critical care, said Nickerson, who also directs the Northern Virginia Hospital Alliance and declined to name the hospital.
““Our hospitals are already almost at capacity,” she said, referring to the recent surge in coronavirus cases. “It’s not like they have tons of free beds available. We are still in the middle of a pandemic.”“
“J. Stephen Jones, chief executive of the Inova Health System, said the impacts of the Afghan crisis aren’t likely to end soon for hospitals.
“By the end of the week, several dozen flights carrying Afghan evacuees are scheduled to arrive at Dulles from countries where they have been living in refugee sites, Jones noted.
“Many of those people will go on to other parts of the country — including the Marine Corps’ Quantico, Va., military base — where they are dealing with physical ailments and psychological trauma, he said.
“These are real human beings and taking care of people is complex,” Jones said. “These folks have had their lives disrupted, and everything we can do to coordinate that care will be in their interest and in our community’s best interest.”“
In “our community’s best interest” to overwhelm the hospital on an avoidable “crisis“ with continued apparent bad planning? And some of that planning apparently includes putting the “rigorously vetted“ in big numbers on a key military complex. How about that.
Makes you want to consider how much contact you have with your vaccinated family and friends… I know this is not the prayer request area, but just found out my wife of 46 years has to have emergency surgery to open her carotid artery. One side is 100% blocked and the other side is 90% blocked. The surgery is to open the 90% side. We are both not vaccinated and the local acute care hospital is packed with covid pts and hers is one of the very few surgeries that has been scheduled. She will be in the ICU post op for 24 hrs. I would ask specifically for prayer that neither of us would be exposed to covid while there and the surgery and post op would go well and we will not be exposed to any of the variants by our vaccinated family members. Her name is Jan
Jan is now on my nightly prayer list and please let us know how everything goes.
You should never worry about asking for prayers…ever. Here on this site especially. We all need them at various times when worry and concern overtakes us.
O merciful God, giver of life and health; Bless, we pray thee, thy servant Jan, and those who administer to her of thy healing gifts; that she may be restored to health of body and of mind. Through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
Prayers for both of you. What a rough ride you’re going through!
Best wishes, Jan, for a full and speedy recovery.
Saying prayers
for you and your entire family.
May the Lord put a hedge of protection around Jan and you to protect you from Covid, staff infection and all disease during Jan’s IP surgery and thereafter, in Jesus’ Name. Amen
Thank you everyone!
The Delta variant was discovered in Dec 2020 before the vaccines were being used. It’s a bit disingenuous to say the vaccine created it.
Infections cause variants. A random mutation (variant) will become more prolific if it is more productive than surrounding viruses at attaching to a cell, entering, and replicating. Hosts with different immune responses or vax status could lead to different variants taking hold.
The Delta variant was discovered in Dec 2020 before the vaccines were being used.
Prove it.
All I can do is give you a link, but you seem inclined to not believe it. The real point is that infections replicating cause random mutations (variants), not the vaccine. It may be true that different variants may become the predominant ones depending on your immune response and vax status, but there is no reason to believe they would necessarily more dangerous if you’ve been vaccinated.
Mind reading.
You made an assertion and I asked for proof.
You make additional assertions w/o offering evidence. I’ll offer info that says you are wrong.
This chicken vaccine makes its virus more dangerousScience Jul 27, 2015 3:01 PM EDT The deadliest strains of viruses often take care of themselves — they flare up and then die out. This is because they are so good at destroying cells and causing illness that they ultimately kill their host before they have time to spread.
But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous
All I said was Delta was around before the vaccines. You’ll notice here that is was “first discovered in India in October 2020″. https://ysph.yale.edu/community-education-covid-19/covid-vaccines-variants/covid-19-variants/
Random mutations of a virus occur during replication. The vaccine doesn’t cause them, they just happen on occasion when the virus replicates (it’s random). This would only occur in an infected person (either vaccinated or unvaccinated). A vaccinated person that is not infected cannot produce mutations. In so much as initially the vaccine did largely prevent infection, there were less hosts with viruses replicating and as a result fewer mutations occurring. Even with Delta the Israeli data shows efficacy against becoming infected at around 40 percent, so the vaccine is still causing less mutations to occur (due to less infections). The Israeli data is often misrepresented but it does still show high efficacy against serious disease (80 to 90 percent).
Despite there being variants to all viruses, the “vaccines” definitely put pressure on the covid virus to mutate to a variant that is resistant to the “vaccine” in order to find new hosts and continue to spread.
The mutations that are resistant to the “vaccine” are the ones that survive.
But if you are claiming that Sundance saying the “vaccines” literally created the variant, I guess you have a point.
But I think Sundance was being a little more sophisticated with his point.
It seems to me the “vaccines” are creating new variants regardless of whether spontaneous variants arose previously..
Thank you providing evidence link to support your assertions. That is all I asked.
So much “mind reading” going on lately. Blatant statements that are just someone’s opinion. They should just state it’s their opinion. Sloppy writing, at best.
So u get the point. Chasing a mutant is as effective as you possibly can be to make money per shot.
I don’t believe the Jabs work. Where is the proof? The one test I read about (probably for the the Pfizer Jab) the Un Jabbed had the almost the same infection rate as the Jabbed. This is where I part from Dr. Malone and his supporters. I say no Jabs for anyone (I know this will never happen). The way forward -> Preventive protocols plus therapeutics if infected.
Do the clinical trials even look for that type of effectiveness you assumed was looked at?
If not, then why not? The answer is simple.
sales teams
Clinical trials were conveniently only for 3 months so that the “vaccine” effectiveness wearing off did not show.
Once again the people who have had covid are not talked about much. The variants get around the shots, but not so much around unvaxxed people that have had the virus as of now. Apparently having the virus gives you more protection against all variants as a whole, not just the singled out spike protein portion of the shot or “improved” boosters. Gonna be pretty interesting if and when it is the recovered who save people and country physically and socially through their blood donations and kindness to the people who screamed they get vaxxed at all costs.
That would change the narrative. They are told to take the Jabs regardless of studies proving natural immunity is far superior.
Yes, many studies now show that those recovered from Covid have both stronger and longer lasting immunity than that obtained from the vaccine.
However, Dr. Geert’s presentation (via the pdf), clearly indicates his fear that as these variants get stronger and stronger, they will wipe out both vaccine and naturally acquired immunity.
His solution is VACCINATION! – but with a caveat – vaccination that targets NK (cells?) and to my layman’s understanding, what would be a traditional STERILIZING vaccine rather than the vaccines we have now.
Government House has lied time and time again – and with increasing boldness since 2008.
Yet we’re supposed to believe them when they say the “vax” is necessary and safe.
There’s no lower bound on stupid.
Yep, mass inoculation in the teeth of a pandemic with a leaky virus, one that promotes the creation of dominant new variants while not providing true and broad immunity, is not a good idea. Well, unless your goal is money and control – and possibly population reduction – instead of health.
The pro-vax side is likely to argue that the decreasing lethality (which would have happened anyway, without the jab) is a worthy goal. Each successive variant has to trade lethality to gain transmissibility.
Vaccine mandates will still go into effect through employers because you have no constitutional rights if a corporation does it to you…that’s the workaround…because vaccinations are now a political issue not a medical issue.
Decreased lethality means unvaccinated will eventually be at no more risk than somebody who is “fully vaccinated” (whatever that means, since it seems like the goal here is never-ending follow-up shots). Therefore, vaccine mandates are purely political theater imposed on regular people by woke corporate fascists.
Kinda like the masks, but with more worrisome long-term unknowns.
Fauci is truly evil. He already did exactly this same thing with the HIV crisis in 1984. This video explains how he decided (with little evidence) that AZT was the best drug for those suffering from HIV and mandated it for even those not exhibiting symptoms (that included children and many young people) which led to a lot of suffering and death. Once AZT was the “chosen” medicine, all other funding was dropped and hundreds of other potential medicines were never developed…. Not only can you see this pattern repeated with the vaccines- but look at him with Redmesdivir!! That also causes kidney failure and multi-organ failure and fluid in the lungs…
I wish I could down vote PO S Commie Dem Fauci’s Face!
It’s really hard to believe Fauci most foul is not in prison.
Yes history is repeating. How many people does Fauci have to kill before something is done about him?
This guy?
I don’t think he cares.
I wish I could give you more thumbs up, because you are spot on. The studies I have been watching and reading about what he did to HIV victims is incredible. And it is the same as what they are doing with Covid now. All those affected then are trying to teach us what we never knew to help us now.
This is related, but tangent to the topic.
I have been hearing rumor of the National Guard requiring these clot shots soon, and the intention will be to push those out who refuse it by about January.
Seems few exemptions will be given. Feels quite like there is a certain timeline that must be followed… for the “right causes” if you catch my drift.
Yes I catch your drift.
Fake shots , real documentation.
Insider threat.
You have learned well.
Watch the rhetoric ramp up by spring regarding that last line.
Can’t have any of those domestic extremists causing any trouble in the force now.
Why aren’t the vaccinated politicians sickening? Are they on prophylactic Hdq, or ivermectin or weekly remdisivir. People like Fraudci, Pelosi or is this why Feinstein is in hiding, should be headed for vents. They need to start dropping, or full lockdown will be coming.
What makes you think they took what they are giving to the masses? Saline looks the same in a bottle or syringe as the “vaccine”.
Trust
Rumor has it , that Feinstein’s mental status is declining and she refuses to resign
Are you aware of the video that shows Fauci “getting the shot,” in one arm, then in a follow-up interview pointed to and rubbed the opposite arm when talking about how he was “vaccinated”? You can look it up. Quite revealing.
I hate to disagree with SD; but, this is not accurate:
“The COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, virus was created in a lab.”
No it wasn’t.
SARS-CoV-2 was created (sequenced) by this man: Yong-Zhen Zhang. And he describes his creation in a peer reviewed paper he authored in Nature magazine, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2008-3.pdf
If you go through it carefully, you’ll see his creation was in fact something he pulled out of, well, lets just say, thin air. And yet, astoundingly, his contrived sequence is the root of all things covid which followed. Including vaccines.
Today the covid battle is not over whether Mr. Zhang’s contrivance is a phony ( which it is) but, instead, today’s covid battle is about who can come up with the best covid statistics. And the statistics, regardless of who presents them, are usually inconsistent, confusing and contradictory. Just the sort of outcome you would expect from a virus whose roots are fraudulent..
Became a reluctant participant in the world’s largest Phase III Clinical Trial of Moderna in March. Wife had the ‘walking pneumonia’ back in the fall, and was worried about respiratory disease. I went along for company, and also to reduce masking demands.
So now you’re telling me that the original CCP-virus-specific vaccine has wiped out my natural immunity to coronaviruses? I sure as hell hope not, but if so there’s nothing I can do about it. Given the millions who have had the shots (not ‘jabs’) there are a great many in the same boat.
Fortunately, I’m older than dirt and mostly stay home—if we go any distance, we use our little travel trailer, and we don’t go out much.
Actually I did get a nasty head cold in June (which my wife didn’t get), but that might not be relevant—common colds are caused by other pathogens as well as coronaviruses.
I am certainly not inclined to get on the booster ‘Rona-coaster’. Will my generalized immunity recover?
Trust. You have earned the right to lose trust in gov.
Crimes against humanity is really starting to sound good right about now.
Yep….I will not be taking a jab of ANY kind for covid or anything.
I haven’t had a vaccine since the 70’s no need to change that now.
I’m 58 yrs old and My Natural immune system all that time has kept me protected from the flu and everything else and i am not about to muck that up.
Well, we already hit the triple lambda and mega mu variants of Fauci-19. What’s next?
Some of the MSM are walking back boosters for everyone. Still pushing the vax though. But it is beginning to sink in that creating and chasing variants with vaxxes is dumb.
Saint Fauci propaganda film coming to select theatres Sept. 10.
What’s the name of the koolaid killer cult guy?
That’s fauccis name. Brand, simplify.
EVERY state or city I travel to, people are knowing of CTH.
Based on what we know now about these “vaccines”, in a sane world the use of them would have been banned long ago – unfortunately we are all living in a world gone mad and instead of banning the use of these dangerous drugs governments are beginning to mandate the vaccines as a condition for existing in society. If you are not vaccinated you soon won’t be able to go into stores to buy food – go to work – do banking – every activity we need to do to exist will be off limits.
The worst aspect about these vaccines is they destroy your natural broad-spectrum antibodies. Think of all the people who have natural antibodies who submitted to the vaccine? They have destroyed the one thing that can save them from future variants.
Another aspect of the vaccine that does not get talked about is the fact that the 5 year mortality rate from vaccine-induced myocarditis is 50%!
The following is from the American National Institute of Health (NIH):
“All patients diagnosed or suspected to have acute myocarditis should be admitted to the hospital and be monitored for hemodynamic instability. Immediate complications of myocarditis include ventricular dysrhythmias, left ventricular aneurysm, CHF, and dilated cardiomyopathy. The mortality rate is up to 20% at 1 year and 50% at 5 years. Despite optimal medical management, overall mortality has not changed in the last 30 years“.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459259/
Myocarditis mostly affects healthy young men who are at zero risk of dying from covid. According to NIH 50% of them who contract myocarditis will be dead in five years! Despite these facts millions of young people are being forced to get the vaccine to attend schools or as a condition of employment.
What is happening today is the most monstrous thing I have every seen in my life. How did we get here?
Yep, we are literally listening to those talking heads on the screen who tell us these young patients have been cured and released from the hospital- no problem! It’s outrageous.
“President Biden is facing rising COVID-19 challenges as he prepares to lay out new steps in the pandemic fight on Thursday. “
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/571394-biden-faces-pivotal-moment-with-covid-19-speech?rl=1
Biden will lay out 6 steps
Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said it is important to “identify what the problem is here, and that is the anti-vaccine movement.”
“This isn’t like what it was last year,” he added. “This is willful.”
Aside from the fumbled cue cards, blank stares, and slurring bizarre phrases, can we expect some fascist dictates? It appears that amesh is on that band wagon.
We must be armed with info!
“Thus, because the vaccinated are not getting bedridden from this dual-track variant, they can continue to spread it easily, giving it a competitive advantage, even if it is highly dangerous to the unvaccinated.”
“since COVID vaccination only offers temporary short-term protection, as soon as immunity fades, the vaccinated themselves are also equally at risk of more severe outcomes. Thus, this creates the evolutionary pressure for the virus to behave as an increasingly contagious but relatively mild virus as long as everyone is vaccinated but as a dangerous but also very contagious virus as soon as temporary immunity wears off.”
“So, the pandemic really does have the potential to become the Pandemic of the Unvaccinated (the shameless term coined by public health officials to terrify the vaccinated into bullying their unvaccinated peers), but reality comes with a twist because if a dual-track variant does evolve it would be the unvaccinated (and those whose boosters have expired) who would have reason to fear the vaccinated, not the other way around as so many frightened citizens seem to believe. And the end result would be that we all become permanently dependent on boosters every 6 months, forever.”
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html
The last stage will be the C Variant. C = communism.
So from this video and assuming you don’t have co-morbidities, it sounds like the my best play is………
1) help build up your innate immune system now via vit d, vit c, zinc and quercetin
2) don’t vaccinate as it will alter your innate immune system from being generalist antibodies that can hunt all virus and invades vs turning many into specific antibodies that only hunt one type of virus or variant and out muscle your remaining generalist antibodies.
3) allow your innate immune system to take on the virus, regardless of variant
4) and to help win and get through the infection stage regardless of variant, you can use the Ivermectin cocktail treatment protocol and antibody infusion treatment plus doxycycline plus prednisone.
5) when your full, uncorrupted innate immune system wins, which on avg it will 99.8% or so of the time, you now have natural immunity from all current and future COVID variants. And ALL of your innate antibodies will remain of the generalist type to take on all future comers.
I guess the only other question is, how many people on earth will be left other than me?
Let me know if I have this right.
Interesting… The reprehensible Psaki answered a CBS reporter today, who asked whether any of the 6 steps the p(resident) will announce tomorrow (in another disjointed and slurred speech about the draconian steps he intends to subject our country to) will affect people’s day to day lives. She said,” It depends on if you’re vaccinated or not.” Here it comes y’all!! Australia Mach 2.
“It depends on if you’re vaccinated or not.”
I’ve been dreading the speech.
We knew it was coming. Expect to hear the rallying call “I WILL NOT COMPLY!”
Psaki also said the Federal government cannot “mandate” vaccine injections for everyone. I know that doesn’t help people to keep their jobs, but I took that statement to mean we won’t have uniforms showing up at our doors.
Please let me know when the virus gains enough smarts to only attack politicians. It shouldn’t have much of a problem distinguishing them from normal people as it just needs to attack those with no backbone, double tongues, and lacking common sense.
Where is the FU variant? I hear it’s very dangerous to the Great Reset gang!
Which one is the “Mail-in-Ballot variant”?
Does anyone hear remember after getting a deep puncture wound stepping on a nail, or sever cut with agriculture equipment, etc being asked when was the last time you got a tetanus shot? If it was longer than five years you got another. You may have an adequate level of memory B-cells and Helper T-cells to produce antibody to neutralize the neurotoxin produced so that you don, develop ‘Lockjaw”. What folk are not being told is that circulating antibody does not last for ever and in the absence of the antigen (which the adaptive immune system has cleared form the system) circulating antibody levels drops to near baseline. What provides lasting protection is not circulating antibody but a large number of memory B-cells and memory T-cells that are long lasting. BUT they are not going to respond until until you encounter the antigen either form a buster or tha pathogen. Consider the memory B-cells and memory T-helper cells as a burgler alarm it is not going to off unless it is tripped.
Now mass vaccines will breed dangerous variants? Some of you may remember measles guess what mass childhood vaccine drive which has almost completely eliminated it from most of the world except part of Africa middle east and Asia. Well we havent got killer immune strains showing up in the U.S. You could say well it was a child hood disease and no yone dies from it. Yes people did and in Africa they still do to the tune of about 20,000 to 30,000 deaths per year.
Take these self professed science/medical pundit with a wee bit of salt. There are theoritical possibilities and then there are probabilities, Much of what is being put forth may be in the relm of a possibility but not a likelihood. What about the vaccinations to eliminate polio?
This article offers good info on why some vaccines offer lifetime immunity and why others never can (like corona viruses)
“Once you got immunity to smallpox, measles, or polio, you had full protection for a few decades and were protected against severe illness or death for the rest of your life. But for fast-mutating respiratory viruses, including coronaviruses, within a few months they are sufficiently different that your previously acquired immunity will only ever offer partial protection against your next exposure. The fast rate of mutation ensures that you never catch the exact same cold or flu twice, just their closely related constantly evolving cousins. What keeps you from feeling the full brunt of each new infection is cross-reactive immunity, which is another part of the story of how you are being conned, which I will come back to shortly. ”
On measles:
“Even minor mutations to the measles virus will cause changes to its surface proteins, leaving it unable to gain access to a host cell to make more copies of itself. Thus, even if there are lots of mutations, those mutations are almost all evolutionary dead ends, thus preventing genetic drift. That’s one of several reasons why both a natural infection and vaccination against measles creates lifetime immunity ― immunity lasts because new variations don’t change much over time. ”
There’s a wealth of info in this article and well worth the read. Thanks to whomever originally posted it here.
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html
Would you believe polio virus and rhinovirus are both members of the same family. They are both RNA virus and polio virus has a very high mutation rate. May I suggest https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.3000003. “Why are RNA virus mutation rates so high.” The key feature about rhinovirus the most important cause of common colds is not the mutation rate but about 200 different serotypes of different receptor proteins. Yes it does undergo antigenic drift, point mutations in the RNA that encodes for the spike protein. Consider it a change in one or two epitopes recognized by antibody but there may still be some common epitopes that that may be recognized by antibody. That may result in milder to asymptomatic infection. The problem is the other 180 or strains that have have different epitopes and some of which may or may not be circulating in a population. The other point is this infection does induce IgA and IgG. It shows up about a week or so into the infection and but it is gone by 18 months. So with waning immunity and 200 revolving strains yes you could say you are no futher thant the nearest sneeze form the common cold provided it does not have shared epitopes with a previous strain that you have residual immunity to. Would you believe that minor mutations within the surface proteins of rhino virus might cause changes to surface proteins rendering it unable to gain access to the host cell? Yes but just like in measles it does not occur in all the progeny at once Now for measles, it is also one of those rapidly replicating respiratory RNA virus, but it seems to produce a stable spike protein but antigenic drift has bee recognized. The really bug BUT is that pooled human sera still can neutralize the D4 subtypes (https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/JVI.00209-17). Translation still some other epitopes recognized that afford protection. The big term to consider is not antigenic drift or genetic drift that involves minor changes BUT antigenic shift which occurs in RNA virus with a segmented genome meaning with you now encounter a strain /serotype for which no one in the entire population has encountered before no one has antibody and pandemics can occur , a pandemic influenza year. Influenza a respiratory RNA virus that under goes antigenic drift but also antigenic shift, mixing of gene segment from two different strains of virus into a single viral particle (glossing this over greatly. While blogs may be enertaining and may provide some information. To often they are like half a parachute they provide part of the story now you can read a lot of ploge and maybe pick up the other half of the parachute but at the end of the day you have two halves of a parachute not what you want jump out of a plane with. For a deeper understand I strongly suggest Medical Microbiology by Murray. For Immunology I suggest Immunology by Roitt or Janeway’s Immunobiology by Murphy. That may help with scientific literature that gets mistranslated in the popular press to an incrediable degree. The best example is the “Natural immunity is superior to vaccine for COVID 19”. I am sure everyone has seen the head line but read the entire report “natural PLUS vaccine is superior to both. I am sure everyone has read that head line right??? To borrow an old phrase “Choose wisely Grasshopper”.
Mu variant, first identified in Colombia in January and has caused outbreaks in South America. How much has been coming over our southern border and being sent all over the country?
Any idea what they have planned for us unvaxxed folks tomorrow?
https://m.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/white-house-signals-new-covid-19-measures-coming-for-people-who-are-unvaccinated_3987722.html?utm_source=News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-09-08-3&mktids=034c3761750d219d713158792d73e257&est=%2BoEKOJnDI3QaURVUyxaqw2PjzMbU2piS1t%2BFwDVAiJpqeZZXcwdbrZzXBsQWftk%3D
I am thinking he will push for the passport. Nationwide mask mandate for schools
telling private businesses to step up and mandate both vaccines for employees and
passport for customers.
Yeah I think it’s something along those lines. Just started applying for new jobs. Thank goodness Info Sec is hot.
What is Info Sec?
“Information Security”
Usual loathing in the morning followed by abject hatred around noon.
Then spiteful consternation to finish the day.
My guess is no travel on planes and trains. Also, no business that takes medicare or medicaid will be allowed to have unvaxxed staff.
Any school that takes student loans must mandate vax.
All federal contractors must be vaxxed and possibly no more testing out for fed employees.
Maybe make you ineligible for obamacare or medicaid if unvaxxed…
THE STORM IS COMING!!!
War is coming.
A lot of people are fearful that ‘war’ or revolution might be coming. I expressed that sentiment to a guy last week and he statement made rock back on my boot heels. He said, ‘I’m concerned the (insert troubles here) might not be coming.’ His point was/is, this BS has gotta get fixed and absolute resolution of it is the only certainty.
Neither he nor I nor you have any illusions about the terribleness of going down that road – other than to NOT go there will be worse for all of us.
It started long ago budro ww3 government’s media and corporations against the littles scum class glorifying all that is despicable despising and condemning all that is honorable,, see how that works out Hope you enjoy your billions on this earth zukerbuk and gates pray that there is justice and an afterlife
All union members, regardless of the type of job you have..i.e. steel unions, truckers unions, auto workers, communication workers, MUST have vaccine or you will not be able to work.
With a Trillion + budget (normal years, this year 3-6 Trillion) the Federal Government can get A LOT of businesses, universities, NGOs, etc. to dance to whatever tune they want in order to “qualify” for that Government Money.
I suspect you are thinking along the right lines, they will use the flow of federal dollars into all sectors of the economy to try and punish those who cannot take, don’t need, or don’t want the vaccine like they did with federal highway funds when they wanted to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21.
How about social security and banking…
We Will Not Comply. End of Story. Humanly speaking the only response that will get these despicable blankety blanks attention.
I’ve been uninsured since the Economic Retrograde of ’08. Oh well.
I just had a unsettling thought
A whole lot of military personnel just got freed up from Afghanistan
I wonder if they are about to be repurposed
If you’re thinking what I think you’re thinking … Psaki stated that the Federal government cannot mandate vaccines. I took that to mean no unexpected knocks on one’s door. Take it for what it’s worth. I realize she can’t be trusted.
We are talking about a group of thugs that openly and proudly defy Supreme Court rulings.
Laws, rules and the Constitution mean nothing to this regime.
Plus their thinking can always “evolve” from their last utterance.
They are hoping to provoke … to justify actions to “keep us safe” and “protect us” in an “unprecedented situation that no Founding Father could have envisioned.”
We are talking about a ideology that chants “No border, no wall, no USA at all” and “Become ungovernable.” The Speaker of the House shows the fruit of her ideological tree in her home district.
Correct they are never wrong because as you say- they evolve their thinking.
Covid internment camps!
Considering how the Biden gang handled the Afghanistan withdrawal , I would not put big money on them supporting the gov.
I don’t know but I’m sure it will further boil my blood to the breaking point, destroy the country further, do nothing to calm the hyped rona fears, limit my/our freedom even more, damage the economy further, and increase the demented dictator’s powers.
I have people in my family who admitted they liked neither President Trump nor Biden, but voted for Biden because, and I quote, “Trump’s a threat to democracy!”. Right.
Recall the other gems – repeated often by the media – “Trump’s a dictator” and “literally Hitler!” Right, good times.
Although projection is “their” specialty so I guess they were just letting us know that Biden would not only be a dictator but would destroy the country.
As a kid did you ever wonder “what the hell happened to the German people in the 30’s? How could that have happened? How did totalitarianism take over?” I know I did. Well when you get the media-industry-government complex acting in concert, it’s easier to understand. We’re living it in real time. Listening to those Australian & NZ government officials arrogantly command their subjects is horrifying. We’ve seen many blue state governors behave similarly.
Full court press propaganda worked then. It works now.
I’m astounded at how otherwise “smart” people have simply turned their brains off in the past 2 years. It’s beyond remarkable.
It’s true what they say. Inside of every liberal/progressive/Dem is a totalitarian screaming to get out. They’re out.
I’ve been wondering where are all the doctors and scientists who have to know what is going on is pure evil and wrong. Then I recalled the psychological experiments conducted in various universities over the years where for example they pose a question with an obvious and rather simple answer to a group but only a handful of people in that group are unsuspecting lab rats. They know the answer but the other paid participants all give another and wrong answer . One after the other they reinforce that same wrong answer until it’s the turn of the unsuspecting participant who then goes along with the crowd and gives the same wrong answer. Herd mentality, coercion and group think are at work right now. That, in addition to extreme pressure and censorship.
If you have observed the medical field for the past 20+ years, it has changed dramatically. Most doctors no longer have their own practices. They have been bought out by giant corporate systems. They are just employees now. If they want to stay employed, they have to follow the corporate line.
The few remaining independents have to deal with licensing threats if they don’t tow the line.
I wonder why Communist were allowed to take over America.
Aussie-France style extreme restrictions.
Remember those FEMA camps built during the Obama-Biden administration. Yep. They are already doing it in Australia.
Local people that enforce this will pay the price.
At the end of his letter and the document ‘Why mass vaccination amidst a pandemic creates an irrepressible monster’, Dr Bossche says that the only solution to develop an ‘NK cell-based vaccine’ that teaches the natural ‘killer’ T-cells to attack infected human cells and kill them, thus destroying the virus’s ability to replicate.
I wonder if an attenuated-virus vaccine (like many traditional ones) would fit the bill. There’s a company called Codagenix that is developing one for the CCP Virus. See their press release here:
Anyone know if this would qualify for ‘NK’?
You need to read up on ADE. There are no vaccines for any other Corona virus
I think Bosscche is saying that the pathogen-specific C19 vaccines are causing ADE, by taking over from natural immunity and not stopping mutant variants.
You are talking about the common cold. The Corona virus mutates rapidly and is not a serious or fatal disease thus a vaccine while nice to have is difficult to make and not cost effective. That doesn’t mean it could not be done. What is being discussed here is not the common cold but COVID-19 which has proven it can be fatal to the elderly or immune compromised in significant numbers. Granted to the young and healthy it is just a bad case of the flu at the worse. COVID-19 is a bio-weapon that either was accidently or intentionally released. The democrats being the new Nazi party decided to use this weapon to steal the election by creating fear and panic among the gullible and brainwashed democrats and independents. The real world problem with all bio-weapons is in the environment unlike the lab you cannot predict exactly how they will mutate over time, thus the problems of variants and their unpredictability. Thus a vaccine that developed from an attenuated virus that more closely mocks natural immunity you get from having COVID would be far superior to the current vaccine that only responds to a specific set of spike proteins and requires modification of the patients DNA to produce the spike proteins. It could protect the general population with out causing variants to evolve. If you plan to vaccine everyone this is the type of vaccine you need.
The previous sane administration looked objectively at the threat from COVID-19. When they realized it was not going to be possible to keep it out of the US begin looking at the possibility of a vaccine against COVID-19 to protect the people who were at risk of hospitalization and or death from COVID-19. The drug companies decided that a SARS type vaccine they had been working on could be adapted to respond to a specific spike proteins on the COVID virus and this would protect the elderly and immune compromised. Because these people have limited remaining life spans(10-15 years) and were for the most part not having children the unknown long term risks of the vaccine were worth the protection they were getting for them. The rest of the population having little risk of death and hospitalization would get the virus and develop effective herd immunity stopping the virus spread because natural immunity is far more effective against variants than the specific vaccine protection. Also HCQ and IVM were showing potential as an inexpensive treatment if administered early in the course of the infection. It was never intended that everyone get vaccinated.
Clean-up in Aisle 6 needed.
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Wow a bot made it through! I’m transfixed by her boobs and i will now be clicking obediently on her website like a zombie…
Huh?
Interesting this is :
China’s vaccine SINOVAC IS attenuated virus vaccine.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57817591
The excuse for the US not pursuing the traditional method is the difficulty in culturing VIRUS on a massive scale.
Viruses are NOT BACTERIA…..you can’t just throw them on some sugar ( a petri dish) and get them to replicate.
Viruses REQUIRE the “machinery” found INSIDE OF LIVING CELLS to replicate themselves.
So how the hell was China able to do this to scale and the US was not?
Why did China choose the traditional method and not the mRNA route?
I think the influenza vaccines are attenuated-virus vaccines, but of course they are variant-(strain-)specific.