PHOENIX – Arizona Senate President Karen Fann said Tuesday the number of 2020 general election ballots tallied during the ongoing audit she authorized doesn’t match the total documented by Maricopa County, but the Republican didn’t know how far off the counts were.
“They haven’t released a number yet, if you will, however we do know that those numbers do not match with Maricopa County at this point,” Fann told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Mike Broomhead Show. [Listen Below]
THE NUMBERS DON’T MATCH IN ARIZONA
By how many is still TBD.
— Wendy Rogers (@WendyRogersAZ) July 13, 2021
https://twitter.com/AuditWarRoom/status/1415103064587968514
Captain Obvious says the difference is so large that results have to be triple checked twice before the number is released.
I think the triple-check is a good move. It shouldn’t be necessary – BUT – the Democrats and their propaganda outlets have said all along that the Cyber Ninjas are amateurs and don’t know how to count. Now, the Cyber Ninjas have all of the hand-count tallies as well as image of every ballot, so that’s two counts but both by Cyber Ninjas. The third count is totally independent of Cyber Ninjas and just a count of the number of ballots. If it matches the hand count and ballot image counts but the County’s certified results are waaay different, I think it’s a rock solid case of who’s lying.
Cyber Ninja’s also have a digital picture of each ballot… this will not end well for Democrats/Rino’s.
I can attest that Cyber Ninjas is an extremely well-respected professional outfit in this narrow field of discipline. The Arizona Senate made an excellent choice. And, after this, I’m quite sure that the Ninjas will have earned “just as much work as they can do.” You watched – on camera – a thorough and diverse auditing process that was done throughout with airtight, successful, security and integrity controls. You saw for yourself just how good they are.
But the New Captain America says he and everyone he knows voted for Biden.
And the new Captain America is a ding-dong.
I thought he was a twinkie…hmmmm
Captain America is a comic book character.
Dead people, fake people, dogs and cats, illegals and comic book characters voted for Biden, but count every vote?
I’m shocked!
…. well not that shocked
And the fraud at the white house in DC will walk into an empty room, look at his note cards, whisper into his microphone and : “See it’s just another Trump Big Lie”. ” I won Arizona; Cindy told me so..”
I smell disappointment coming. No reasonable person with a solid understanding of large numbers and random error should expect the numbers to “match”. We’re talking about over 2 million ballots.
2,131,427 does not match 2,134,918.
With all due respect to the Senator, I applaud the efforts of the forensic audit team, but just…wait. We are best served by an audit that convinces people they took their time, did it right, and the result is so absurdly obvious that it cannot be effectively countered.
I’m 51 years old, and if I had a nickel for every time a breathless announcement didn’t survive a little patience and scrutiny, I could retire and not work another day.
I hope I’m wrong, I really do, and that the discrepancy is so large that it cannot be explained away and that the result is that Trump won AZ in a cakewalk. But stuff like this is really unhelpful.
Sadly the vote riggers had lots of time to fix things before the audit began.
Possibly true, but if they did not know, as clearly nowbody does right now, what the actual true numbers are, then what “fix” do they install to rig the numbers ahead of the audit?
I think your comment is why the MC board of elections is refusing to give up the servers. That’s where the proof of internet connected voting machines resides.
I think it’s the routers that they haven’t handed over.
That’s a red herring. “A router” is nothing more than a switch. And there are other ways to get to the Internet … such as (in Atlanta) a Bluetooth-enabled “smart thermostat” mounted on the wall.
Hell … if anyone in that room had a smart-phone in their pocket … that could do it, too.
Mike Lindel says he has the actual “data capture packets” from the machines of the total election to be presented at his Election Fraud Symposium coming soon. Actual data capture packets cannot lie. They cannot be changed. He says he can prove the machines were hacked and that foreign interference from China shows in the packets. But even with that, if the Judicial branch choices not to look or listen, we are headed for eventual civil war because they will continue to do this.
How could he get the actual data capture packets? Those belong to the telecom service – and they normally would not give that up without a federal judge’s order. I have not heard of any court case ordering a telecom service to give up this information.
I mean, if a telecom service gave this information to a leftist organization, wouldn’t we all be screaming for privacy violations?
So, the only other way to get the packets is from the source or destination of the packets.
The telecom services frequently hand over private info to government without court order.
The IRS only need send a request to your bank for your funds and the bank hands them over WITHOUT a court order.
I’m not an expert. I’ll lead off by saying that. But after the election, sometime in December, people testified to a committee (not the full Arizona Senate) that they had intercepted all of the packets sent to Germany. They called themselves white hats. The server in Germany was supposed to be the key. A company was raided by US military and local law enforcement and a server was secured, supposedly by the good guys. Are Mike Lindell and Jovan Pulitzer and the like playing it coy now? Do they have all of this info and are waiting for whatever they can get from the machines or the routers before they drop a hammer? Or was it all overblown and no one will ever mention it again? I would like to know.
you mean like the mysterious fire at Hickmans farm? The chances of that being a coincidence are so astronomical that it defies the imagination.
Statistical forensics techniques can uncover this sort of thing very easily, because it injects non-randomness into what ought to be a perfectly random data stream.
The evildoers throughout the country – among many other things – forgot the impact of the “continuous vote-count tickers,” which published non-random patterns in real time. Vote dumps, vote counts that went down and not up, and fractional counts. And in some cases, subsequent doctoring of the feeds … which had nonetheless been captured in their original form. But, most of all, they never considered that States would actually conduct forensic audits.
You are correct, but getting the Judicial to look at it. Getting the SCOTUS to take it on and look at it. This is BIG TIME stuff here. It cannot get anymore intense and matter so much. The Supremes can be bribed, threatened and assaulted along with their families and co-workers. A lot of people with big gonads need to be in play to pull this off.
That’s not true and that’s why the audit.
The numbers where so huge they could not keep up without shutting down and trucking in fresh clean duplicates. Also the voter machines were unable to make up the difference in a way that wasn’t obvious.
The question is not if there was fraud the question is what are WE going to do about it.
Hokkoda you said it perfectly. This a ridiculous tease. It is not helpful at all. There should be no partial announcement until they’re ready to present everything.
It is statistically significant or they wouldn’t waste their time on the third audit. They are preparing for war.
Facts don’t lie. Democrats do.
And she said they are covering it Six ways to Sunday which means the Senate is gonna flip right back onto Schumers face, he will be minority leader again.
As do nearly all republicans, with very, very few exceptions. That is why it is called the Uniparty.
Remember when the military was saying “shock and awe” for weeks leading up to the 2003 invasion. Except it really wasn’t.
That’s what concerns me.
She should shut up and say “let them finish their work, the results will speak for themselves”.
Hokkoda,
You and I are usually in full agreement on most topics here.
I am 100% on board with the Audit, Auditors, and peripheral players, staying quiet until the results are finished.
But, there is always a but, isn’t there;
Here is a different perspective – everyone connected to this AZ Audit has been very conscientious about opsec until this announcement; Karen Fann included. With that in mind, maybe she was getting ahead of some weak ass RINO’s and their counter announcement or some such.
The only reason I am considering this viewpoint, is her track record so far has been pretty solid.
We will see.
Your on the right track. Arizona Senate President Karen Fann is first and foremost a politician, in one of the most demanding jobs in the U.S., right now. She would not be sticking her neck out without being sure of her facts this time.
They have clearly found an important count mismatch. Be glad you are not a Socialist, Democrat or a member of the Coup.
While I appreciate the political pressure that Ms. Fann is right now under, “I don’t want to hear a peep from anyone” until the best possible report has been completed and delivered to the Senate. Security has been airtight. Make it pay off now.
One of the tricks to thwarting election fraud is for precincts to do “quick counts”. They locally count the ballots at each polling station as soon as the voting is over and report it upstream and publicly announce the numbers. What this does is prevent tampering on a mass scale because whatever cheating occurred is contained within those polling station. (This is one reason we never want to drop the Electoral College) It is no accident that the “errors” occurred in areas (Detroit, Milwaukee, Maricopa, Fulton County, and Philly) where the votes were aggregated. This is why the mail in ballots are such a problem because they just get lumped together.
When the auditors count the ballots, one of the things the do is break down the number in each box then check the votes that were attributed the candidates such as what is happening in Fulton County right now and causing all the stink. There should be a consistent number in each box (200 I believe) and then someone has to sign off on the box after the count. This insures that a recount cannot be way off unless intended as in fraud. If they did not have enough ballots, that will show up not just in the total number but box by box. They are going to know this in granular detail. The other thing is that the Cyber Ninjas scanned, recorded, and indexed each ballot so any discrepancies between the Arizona Senate and CN can be cross checked quickly without much fuss.
I’m hopeful that what you are saying is true.
However, look at the converse – suppose that the first two showed that the audit didn’t show any discrepancy with the originally reported “result”; they would face skepticism from our side, and thus the third count to reinforce the match.
Again, as I said, I’m hopeful you are right.
They have been clear the complete audit is going to take a few months. There will be push back by the Commie Dems and RINOs and MSM no matter what they do. We are living in Commie Controlled country.
Hokkoda:
We’re headed in the opposite direction. The audit results will be so very different to the official results that that gulf will render the audit untenable. It’s humpty dumpty time. The election was so corrupt that it cannot be coherently re-constructed.
Rush Limbaugh predicted that destroying the American people’s faith in the democratic process was a huge part of the Democrat’s game. Then? The Democrats propose a whole new system. The weighted voting system being used in the NYC mayor’s race is just one example.
And if the American people are DUMB enough to fall for that BS; they deserve to wear stars are their arms and march off to re-education camps.
Me and my kind? We won’t be buying into any BS! Or Marching anywhere.
Yep me neither,
Already planning on giving lovely tenants notice from our hidden away piece of paradise. Sad but necessary.
We are getting fed up of the nonsense.
We are going off grid, without being foolish.
Forced vaccinations, incessant chatter about Covid, climate change and other nonsense.
Challenging times ahead for the ill prepared.
The fight is on for our freedoms.
This will get ugly and IMO quickly.
Cheers to all!
I agree. Among other things, since it seems the left committed fraud in so many different ways that it seems impossible, as you say to re-construct it all. And I believe they did that for that very reason. Factor in more mischief they’ve engaged in since “Election Day” and it’s a read hot mess.
But I hope I’m proved wrong.
To your last point:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/07/joe-bidens-big-lie-about-republican-voter-suppression-is-about-busting-the-legislative-filibuster/
I said the same thing today after Asterisk’s presser.
They are attacking voter integrity measures as an excuse to nuke the filibuster so they can pass the “For the Democrats” Act, as well as the equally execrable John Lewis whatever Act to “save our democracy”.
My personal view is that AZ is a lost cause so Democrats bailed, and are going to try and build their firewall round PA where they control the court system.
They’re hoping they can lie about the AZ audit long enough to prevent a PA audit. If PA goes forward with the audit because the Democrats somehow lose in court, Biden will declare it an insurrection and impose martial law on PA and arrest Mastriano and the others.
That’s what that civil war stuff was all about today, and tying it to the fake 1/6 insurrection.
At that point, it’s either a shooting war or game over for America.
Yeah, Biden isn’t scared, he’s mad.
He’s now the point man for the Corporatist State.
They stole the election, fair and square, and the country is now theirs.
We’re rebels, and they represent the law. That’s corporatism/fascism. Nothing against the State.
You hit the nail on the head. Joe got to see up close and personal how big Obama’s pie got during his tenure at 1600 PA Ave and he wants as much of a share. He’s mad that people actually question Hunter’s paint-brush-in-the-mouth-half-million-doodles which will allow him to get his piece of Obama’s book deal pocket paddings. He’s mad. He watched Hillary via “speeches” pad the coffers of the Clinton Foundation. Unfortunately, Joe isn’t a speaker and he isn’t a writer so he needs Hunter to get whatever he can “brush” up into the bank to pay his bills.
Which makes me wonder, just what “his bills” are and to whom does he owe?
There was an awful lot of desperation, to achieve that 70% jab rate and deadline of July 4.
Totally agree. Arizona got away from them, Georgia is likely going to do the same, so they HAVE to stop the dominos from falling in Pennsylvania. As I’ve said (and you succinctly said), PA is the firewall. President * and his goons will go to the mat to stop an audit there.
Good comment.
Another thought about our beloved Rush; toward the end, he took on a kind of darker, edgier tone. True, his disease could have been a factor, but I think he took a peek over the horizon and saw something he did not like. Rush also took a harder edge with the Republican Party and all but repudiated the party outright.
I guess what I’m saying is that on at least a couple of occasions, Rush came very close to saying what he could not say on the air–we aren’t voting our selves out of this dilemma.
While l understand your point, in this case with the little clues of missing (ref: GA) ballots, missing / deleted / recovered db, no routers delivered per judicially verified subpoena and THEN a third count, this is a bad sign for the fraudsters.
I do agree though, let’s wait and see. Never know what could derail an honest audit (ref: GA middle incident).
Soldier on!
Not middle, missle.
* autocorrect!
There should be zero discrepancies in vote tallies; regardless of the size of the total.
I’ve worked in elections back in the day when 1 person got 1 vote for 1 candidate; not a fraction of a vote and not a subtracted vote, just 1 vote for 1 candidate.
This is not a mathematical quiz; it’s counting the damn votes!!
Only works with honest accounting! New math goes like this! 1 for you, 1 for me, 1 for you, 2 for me, 1 for you, 3 for me!
Say there were exactly 2,000,000 votes cast.
And JoeBama is allegedly exactly 12,000 votes up…
Then…
JoeBama =
1,006,000 votes
President Trump =
994,000 votes
IF JoeBama loses 25%, that comes to 251,500 votes – his total decreases to 754,500.
If President Trump gains that number (251,500) – his total increases to 1,245,500
A difference of 491,000
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Math is racist don’t-cha-know?
The issue isn’t that simple because what constitutes a legal vote is often a judgement call. Does the signature match, for example? That’s a sliding scale. You can set the computer-reader strictly and reject more ballots, or you set it more generously and accept more ballots.
I could have you sign something 10 times in a row, and they’d all be a little different but similar. But “similar” is a judgment call which is a huge weakness of mail in ballots.
The other issue is the voting machines. It sounds to me, based on the lottlecweve been told, that the machines recorded a LOT of votes that are not in any if the boxes provided by the county. Boxes and boxes of “missing” ballots…because Dominion was manipulating the totals electronically, and elections officials in MC we’re falsely certifying that the ballot counts matched the machine counts.
abigailstraight,
If fractional voting occurred…
And, say,
JoeBama received (+ 1.25) votes for each single vote for him…
And President Trump recieved (- 0.75) votes for each single vote for him…
You would still come up with 2 million (+-) votes total. (Dominion style)
BUT IF you ACTUALLY counted the BALLOTS…
Would not JoeBama lose (25%) of his vote total?…
AND
President Trump GAIN 25% of his?
Perhaps, this explains the discrepency….
AND why TPTB – DO NOT want to COUNT “BALLETS”!
The reason why mandatory recounts don’t kick in unless the vote msgin is less than 0.5% in most states is because of random error.
The audit is trying to reduce that random error by doing basically double-blind ballot reviews and re-recounts. Even if they did it three times, it is unlikely their own numbers “match” 100%. There are always small variations due to randomness.
If the three recounts produce the exact same result three times across over 2 million ballots, that’ll be almost a miracle. More likely they report out a range. Using their standards more strictly Trump won by 120,000 votes, and more liberally allowing votes he won by 80,000.
That’s what The Media did after FL2000. Bush’s margin went up, even when counting “faintly dimpled” ballots (ie counting none-votes as votes). Had they not used the Ddmocrat standard of counting fake/non-votes, Bush’s margin of victory was much larger.
Early on in the Arizona audit it was stated that the auditor’s focus was not to overturn the election but to count all legal votes.
But if one counts all legal ballots in good faith, and that count shows a discrepancy that would overturn the election…
What do you do?
NOT Overturn the election because that was not your intent?
This stuff is very idealistic, but Wayne County (Detroit) had more votes counted than registered voters in 2016. It passed without comment from Republicans because they still won Michigan.
Donald Trump campaigned hard in western Pennsylvania in 2020 because it was assumed that Philadelphia would produce massive fraud. Deviancy so easily becomes the norm.
Once a red state has one big city that turns blue, it is so easy for the corrupt bureaucrats/politicians to cheat enough to turn the whole state. Trump didn’t see Atlanta coming, but the GOP establishment probably did.
With electronic voting machines and mail-in ballots, the usual “get out the vote” efforts, that have worked intermittently for Republicans since Boss Tweed, become pathetically inadequate. Only electoral reform can address the fraud. Those fat Democrat women in Texas certainly know it.
Raptors2021,
I agree.
Election reform is vitally important. We have allowed far too many “middlemen” to infiltrate what should be a relatively simple process.
The fewer moving parts, the better.
Reform is important to the point there is no Free United States of America without election “Reform”.
“This stuff is very idealistic, but Wayne County (Detroit) had more votes counted than registered voters in 2016. It passed without comment from Republicans because they still won Michigan.”
Do you have facts on this? I did a spreadsheet on Wayne county based on SoS registered voters and vote totals. I have 1,339,831 registered voters for Nov 16 election and 786 K voted. In fact, voter registration and total votes fell from 2008 election to the 2016 election which seems to align with population decreases. With population continuing to decrease in 2020, Wayne county saw and increase in registered voters and total votes in the ranges of 100 K votes and registration. Based on census information, registered voters exceeded the 18 or older by roughly 13%. This means that registered voters were 113% of the voting population.
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT MORE VOTES COUNTED THAN REGISTERED VOTERS!
What it does mean is that something is messed up in Wayne county when population is decreasing and voting numbers are increasing to the point of voter registration 13% higher that the voting population. If you answer that question you will find the voting fraud. Fake votes because of fake registration.
Stating incorrect facts makes us loss creditably.
I think that was a smart move on their part. Just like in PA they are looking at auditing two “red” counties in addition to Philly.
If they determine Trump won AZ by more than 100,000 votes, there’s going to be enormous pressure on AZ to first ban the practices that generated the fraud, impeach and remove State elections officials from the AG on down, and then decertify the AZ election results.
There’s no Constitutional remedy for states decertifying after Congress has rubber stamped fraud and inaugurated a President. However, if enough stares de certify AND pass legislation designed to block fraud, the GOP can win veto-proof majorities in both Houses and impeach/remove Biden.
Doubtful she would make that kind of announcement if there was a negligible error. I’m sure she knows – maybe not the exact number, but that it’s enough off to either (1) set the stage for a reversal in the count or (2) there’s enough discrepency to demand recount in other counties.
Seems to me the important point is that the machine count matches the cyber ninja count perfectly, and that the official result count,…doesn’t.
She probably waited until she got confirmation of THAT, to make this announcement.
Maybe. I just don’t think it is a smart move in her part. Let them finish their work, and let the results speak for themselves.
It may be because people are getting antsy on our side to see what these results are.
She’s both setting the table and trying to move things along. IMO, the coming announcement will be quite entertaining and earth shaking.
1% error of 2 Million votes = 20,000 votes in a State that was stolen by just 10, 475.
The thought occurred to me too. There’s a huge difference between statistically significant and something a couple of tenths of a percent. A tenth of a percent of 2.13 million is 2130.
I’m pretty sure a huge variance in count would have been leaked by now.
I don’t want Senators nor anyone else to “talk ahead of” the formal confidential release of the audit results to the Senate, and the subsequent public releases by that Senate. Airtight, leak-free security has been maintained up to this point. Make it pay off now. Deliver the best report, when you have it completely ready. “Don’t talk” until that moment.
Your comment is extremely unhelpful. I guess that’s just the way YOU roll. Try some optimism for a change. Why expect defeat? Why not keep looking for something GOOD to happen.
You will be proven wrong. Which is good. 3000 is not the Delta. Standby.
Trump won arizona by over 80k-120k if I remember correctly from election night
FOX News and Tucker Carlson called AZ for Biden before the the state’s polls were even closed! This entire election has been the BIGGEST scam ever perpetrated on the American people, including Richard Nixon’s plumbing job at the Watergate.
I agree 100%, Joseph, that FOX unforgivably called AZ for Biden SO ridiculously early…. Disgusting… They should be held accountable when this all shakes out…. But…. Did Tucker Carlson do so? Sincere question.
If the audit results should a clear Trump victory, the AZ Senate should subpoena Fox News for all corporate communications related to the “calling” of Arizona for Biden on the grounds of election fraud and directly trying to declare an election result to prevent an accurate count.
That would be a thing of beauty.
Same question here…was Tucker part of the election night crew that called the election at 8:03 PM? If so, that would explain WHY he has been so reluctant to discuss vote fraud! But, if not, then he may be the one to have the credibility to say, “I trusted my colleagues when they called the state so quickly but now I have come to realize that was the wrong call and I intend to find out if it was an honest mistake or a deliberate attempt to throw the election.”
No Tucker was not part of the team that night. That pollster (Lentz)that’s always on Fox was working the decision table along with Bret and Martha and of course Paul Ryan was back there.
Correction Stirewalt not Lentz Dana friend…on the situation desk. They didn’t wait for Az polls to close and they still called it. Bret and Martha. That’s why Fox almost lost it all over blowing it for Trump. Trump didn’t lose AZ and you still will not make it right. Make it right..,
Sundance6/15/21—“The Creed of the Cultural Marxists: Retain the lie until it has exhausted its usefulness; then-in the face of irrefutable evidence- in stead of acknowledging the lies, simply reverse positions, attempt to retain credibility and deny ever participating in the lie!” If Tucker isn’t playing the game then what do you call it?
It was Fox’s polling expert Stirewalt who made the early call. He is, by the way, a never-Trumper, and I’m sure he couldn’t wait to make that call in deep red AZ! But now he’s gone. A total operative.
I know Stirewalt was involved as the face of the call, but thought there was some unheard of “genius” in the bowels of the warroom that was the maestro making the call before more than 1% of the vote was in, and they wouldn’t call Florida when practically all of the vote was counted (don’t remember the percentage). Fox ratings were cut in half, probably some recovery, since the others were so badly hurt.
Arnon Mishkin
Stirewalt was extremely unpopular with Fox viewers for years, and yet he remained. The networks test the audience reaction to people (their Q rating) and Stirewalt scored low.
He proved a convenient sacrifice, eh, when the time was right.
He did he job Fox paid him to do. He produced the desired result and now has a new bank account balance and shiny new something or other. What’s not to understand? This is why Fox is a traitor to this nation and to the election process. Tucker gets paid under that umbrella too. No mystery there.
It wasn’t Tucker Carlson who called it early on election night.
No. Fox kept their lap dog safe. Play dead! Good doggie!! Good Boy! Shake hands! Now go fetch us some new gullible watchers. Sic ’em!
My recollection of 11/3/20 was that it was Wallace that called it.
Nixon wasn’t involved in the planning, hiring the burglars, or execution of the break in. Nixon didn’t learn about the Watergate burglary until after it occurred. The cover-up is what the impeachment investigation was about. Its still not clear to me who was guilty of the planning , hiring, and paying the burglars.
It was not Tucker Carlson. It was Martha McCallam and Bret Baird.
Sorry Teri….found your last three comments in the spam bin. For what reason…I do not know. 🙁
The Republicans who have returned to watching F0x are like battered wives “maybe he won’t do it again”.
The Murdochs are globalists and corporatists and they will, most definitely, betray their dopey viewers again and again.
IIRC AZ was called by the traitors at FNN with 1% reporting in…with that “skill” they should be playing Vegas or the Lotto to have the predictability to call a result with only a 1% glimpse of the trend is simply AMAZING
Democrats have tried to stop this process all across the country and now they are quaking in their boots over the possible result: Joe Biden was not duly elected.
The results of this audit will begin the unraveling. The results from another state audit & the rats will start jumping ship.
Might take awhile, but this is going to be so good.
No Gildie, it won’t be good! They hold every position of power in the federal government…either through valid election, appointment, career advancement, nepotism, fraud, coercion, corruption, blackmail…they will never, ever give up the power willingly. It will take violence like this nation has never experienced to take our nation back. I’m an old great-grandpa now but I do know that we have to try…we have to ask for the same intervention of Providence that those great men prayed for 1775…without it, I believe America is lost! But posterity demands that we make the sacrifice and try….
The other shoe dropping today
This latest revelation from Fulton County seems to indicate that Blacks in Fulton County who voted for Trump have been skunked.
Trump did have more Blacks vote for him than were recorded. Evidence of that surfaced today in Fulton County Georgia. If the same holds true for Philadelphia, Wayne..and other like counties, we can opine that Democrats, not unlike their historical slave owning predecessors, cheated the Black voting block that had emerged for Trump within their own party.
If only 7 batches of the 923 falsely reported batches contained ballot images with 554 votes for Joe Biden, 140 votes for Donald Trump and 11 votes for Jo Jorgenson were then falsified to show 850 votes for Biden, 0 votes for Trump and 0 votes for Jorgenson, then Extrapolating:
That could potentially mean nearly 15,000 (likely Black votes for Trump) became 0 votes for Trump. It would also mean that 73,000 actual votes for Biden would be falsely reported as 112,000 votes for Biden in Fulton County.
It looks like the cheating that went on by Georgia Democrats violated the Equal Protection and Due Process Constitutional rights of all Georgia voters, both White and Black.
Trump’s successful policies were cutting inroads into the Black voter population. Democrats fearful of that—always relying on race as an issue—were having none of it. Their militants took to the streets in summer and their poll workers, who were sometimes the same people, took care of business in the fall.
Astute observation.
I’ve been predicting here and on TGP that these audits will serve to bust up the Republican Party into a nationally non-competitive entity. The Patriot party will emerge and the likes of Ronna&Friends will be without a base. I’m hoping the Patriots can get on their feet before the left consolidates all of the ground game. But the Rs will be exposed and thrown aside.
You can’t ‘extrapolate’.
Extrapolation only works when the (big enough) sample is a representation of the whole set, and even then, there is a defined margin of error. A few hundred ballots here or there can’t represent 2 million votes.
Sure. And the rest of the batches can show Biden being shortchanged and Trump’s count being padded…in Fulton County??
It is inconceivable that the rest of the 923 batches that represents a 60% error rate of the 1539 (Only Mail-in Ballot Batch Files) which Favorito found discrepancies with would favor Trump.
The ‘pattern’ presented shows Biden the beneficiary of the cheating. You are assuming the ‘pattern’ may not persist. Yes, the error rate in the one case I outlined above may be much less than the rest of the 9 hundred batches or be non existent, however the error rate could be much higher as well.
An extrapolation is a tool to finding an unknown value using the data available.
This extrapolation does not encompass 2 million votes. It considers only 7 batches of votes—hundreds of mail in votes—of a given batch of 923 fraudulent batches according to Favorito. That would be in the thousands not millions.
A full forensic audit would give the exact count, wouldn’t it? It would substantiate the numbers then determine whether there was fraud or not. As for now all we can do is extrapolate from what is given.
SHOCKING! Not.
Mike Broomhead is very annoying.
When is the Forensic portion suppose to finished? My guess is we are few months away from the audit being completely finished.
Yes there are 3 parts. Late July August for final phase IIRC.
Dont be coy, Karen. Say it. President Trump won by ALOT.
Remember that 90 mile Trump parade of cars in AZ? No freakin way Biden won the state.
This gives the Dims and the Lapdog Media two days to scream ‘it’s a big lie-Biden is the winningest winner ever!’
More info released before the weekend and Sunday shows, leaving the Dims and Lapdog Media scrambling for fresh talking points and excuses.
They are releasing just enough info to watch the cheaters scheme and move around. That’s why Bidet went to Pennsylvania. The cheaters are reacting to the news now…. that’s how you know they are boxed in.
Audit Team: We have found a vote total discrepancy of 157,369 votes.
DEMS: (channeling Maxwell Smart) Missed it by that much. –>| |<–
Installed Resident JoeBamaLa BigLie is breaking a sweat now
Note Schumer is gonna try and push through the 4.5 Trillion Green Infrastructure deal as quick as possible, because he knows he is gonna lose the senate upon the AZ audit Results. The Democrats are reacting to the news…. They are boxed in.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-democrats-to-ram-3-5t-biden-agenda-through-senate-without-bipartisan-support-as-inflation-skyrockets
If the AZ and GA 2020 elections are de-certified by those states, and they recall the fraudulently won D Senators (3) and replace them with R Senators who legally won….wont that NEGATE any legislation those fraudulent Senators voted on?!
It’s taking higher and higher doses of his elixir to keep him sentient. When it starts to wear off, he sweats. That photo of him at the beginning of this thread shows what a rage-filled disaster Biden is. Can you imagine what happens when his pablum isn’t served hot enough?
Six of one, half a dozen of the other type of thinking in my mind right now regarding the release of AZ audit information.
Wait and hammer them with ALL the findings or release information piecemeal.
The former could allow the crooks to physically destroy evidence to date or somehow taint or block the release.
The latter allows the crooks to counter and create alternative truth narratives ( a small number of discrepancies is expected bla bla bla; and call R’s the usual catch phrases of the day (conspiracy kooks, racists, et al) on every news channel – thus diluting the impact.
This election was stolen and Gibberish Joe was installed as Potatus.
Any destruction of evidence in the election, has already occurred.
ALL they have is, as always, MSM and Big Tech pushing the narrative, and blocking our counter-narrative.
Obstruction and delay, at every juncture, like they have done in Az, will be repeated in Georgia, Pennsylvania, and anywhere else State legislatures attempt to conduct true forensic audits like the one in Az.
But eventually, the Truth will out,…and what then?
If enough State legislatures decertify their electors,…will Congress decertify Joe, and certify Donald?
Given the Republicon leadership is in on the scam, I don’t see that happening, nor SCOTUS,,either.
So Lord only knows WHAT happens then.
We might take the Senate back. I’ve seen people claim there is precedent for that.
Thing to watch for is how quickly they get their 2nd reconciliation thing to the floor. They know their time is limited, I hope
A gazillion lawsuits with ‘discovery’ destined to go no where…lawfare makes a bundle either way.
BLM/Antifa cause destruction…
DC locked down…
You name it, it will happen…
And now for a break from our sponsor, (following the science, sarc):
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/three-waves.htm
Notice in 1918, the three waves occurred in one year. I am thinking this would be all over by now, if not for the political meddling (and lack of hygienic practices across this land, did not help).
We are now entering year 2.
Flattening the curve extended and blended wave #1 and wave #2. Are we in wave #3? Are we seeing the new upcoming flu season, earlier with all these alleged ‘variants’?
Asking for a friend….
One of those rare, lucid moments of clarity for Joe Biden.
Who has been in contact with the governor telling him to interfere with the audit? RNC and McConell?
TBD
It implies ballot box stuffing, IMO.
Remember, this is just ONE county of over 3,000 in the US. This is in fact the most egregious case of organized criminal activity in world history.
OT: mural honering St phentenol Floyd struck by lightening
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/mural-honoring-george-floyd-toledo-ohio-destroyed-lightning-strike/
The msm will blame this on “muh white republican insurrectionion Lego terrorists”
Looks like an act of God to me. Message, anyone? Maybe help is on the way.
Message: “I found the work inane and tedious”.
As Travolta’s character said in the church scene in the movie Face/Off: “Well, isn’t this religious!”
“but the Republican didn’t know how far off the counts were.”
Well that narrows it down to somewhere between 1 vote off and 1,000,000 votes off.
“It’s common for the audited vote count and the certified tally to not match up. That’s just politics, and normal.”
If there is no ballot, there is no vote. The vote totals are exceeding the ballot totals in Arizona and Georgia.
How about when the number of votes exceeds the number of registered voters? If the ballots are fraudulent does it really matter if the recount totals match?
Corruption is normal. In this case, the variance had better be small.
Didn’t Liz Harris say earlier this month that the discrepancy was so large, they were going to have to release the findings in phases to keep from setting hair on fire on exploding heads (or something like that 🙂 ) TDS looks nothing like COVID, does it? Just rabid rage.
I saw her (Liz Harris) findings of fraud and her signed affidavit. It is shocking with several pages of data revealing the many ways the Leftists in MC stole the AZ election.–and the 9,000+ changes to voter registrations AFTER the 2020 election. There is much more to be found! 9,000+ changed registrations is so close to the number of votes Biden won by. Suspicious CAT!!
It may be going to Pennsylvania where there were more ballots counted than ballots issued.
Remember the semi full of ballots? The fraud is so extensive it is horrific.
https://www.rt.com/usa/508397-truckload-ballots-missing-pennsylvania/
They can track people that attended the Jan. 6 protest, send SWAT teams to apprehend them, incarcerate them in solitary and deny them basic rights BUT our vaunted IC community chose not to ascertain the validity of sketchy truckings of hundreds of thousands of ballots or investigate blatant election fraud.
God Bless Arizona patriots for doing this. I pray we get to the truth in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
We should audit every damned county in every state. Make Dominion and the other machine providers pay for it.
If we can prove the DNC collaborated, get them on the financial hook too.
The democrats tried to run the same “truckload of ballots” play with the 2018 election on Brenda Snipes’s turf. Here is Matt Gaetz at the elections administration office in Broward County when a rental box truck showed up.
According to a brief comment he made within the past few months, that truck was detected at the border near Pensacola and tracked south to Broward County.
I don’t believe for a minute she doesn’t know the numbers.
She knows the senate is gonna flip, so does Schumer… which is why he is out tonight parroting a Democrat reconciliation vote for their infrastructure goody bag handouts totaling 4.5 trillion. He has to pass it now, or lose out on stealing our money for his cronies. It’s probably the last chance he’ll get.
Well if the vote tallies were off in Georgia that showed trumps votes for biden what do you think the
tallies are in Arizona for biden will be with over 2 million votes being counted What they got was not what was recorded and maybe nothing will come of this but tonight on the Real Story there was a man from Washington State that has said they are going to start talking to the people who have come forward with the same kind of stuff that Rudy was collecting and then see where that goes and if an Audit is asked for then they will do an Audit I think that this is just the first few states who will see that there was a lot of fraud and try to do something about it..
I think we are all sick of the dropped bombs and then have nothing come of it but all we can do is wait for this thing to play out and if nothing happens then we already know that President Trump will run again if for no other reason but to stuff it back in their faces
Sleep well every one Joe Biden did not win and we all know that for sure too
A little punctuation, please.
I am yet again having flashbacks to, when as a kid, I heard people say, “A flirt is a girl who advertises what she has no intention of delivering”.
If that was the attitude the senate would never have bothered. Don’t you at least want some sunlight on the matter? Let it be revealed, if nothing else. Truth does curious things.
This is similar to a doctor telling a patient his temperature is above 98.6, but not telling him by how much, leaving him to wonder if it’s 98.7 or 104.3
This from just one county after how many months?. How many counties in the USA?
At this rate, Americans living in the year 2520 might find out who actually won in 2020.
Sad.
I would imagine the pucker factor at the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors is so tight right now that they couldn’t drive a straight pin up their a$$ with a sledge hammer! Hope they like the color orange and small spaces – they’ll have a long time to get used to it!
That the #’s don’t match became obvious, when they brought in the machines to do a count of the ballots.
After all, if the #’s matched, WHY would they bother with a machine count?
Sure am a FAN of FANN, and admit before this, like most I didn’t pay a lot of attention to my State legislature.
NEVER again.
For her to state the numbers are off tells me they are likely off by a significant amount.
When are they going to call a spade a spade we know the democratic party cheated we have the proof there are so many discrepancies in the vote tallies in different states. Start accusing the Democrats of stealing the election and keep repeating it because it is true.
Ok…
Ballot shortage.
Maricopa County only
Betting pool standings:
This is $1 buy in, one guess, honor system. Closest.
Jeff, -5,000 short of official count.
KDS -175,000
Me-200,000
afarmboy, puttin’ him at -275,000
Smokin’n BBQ -240,000
tgris -300,000
Liberalsareaplague -700,000
All in fun.
Mostly bragging rights.
Pot is up to almost $10 now.
Is this like guessing how many M&Ms are in the glass jar?
– 491,000
Is that from just a straight up recount or is that after they tossed out all of the fraudulent ballots?
And why is this taking so freaking long? I feel as if we’re in another Barr/Durham scenario where we’re constantly being told that something big is just around the corner with nothing ever materializing. Give us what you got now and force the other suspect states to start their audits. Let gramps and company know that we got the goods on them.
Does anyone know who is in charge of this third recount? The only detail I have come across is that it is not Cyber Ninjas.
This type of simple count of the number of sheets of paper run through a machine is easy to rig, either up or down.
“It’s not the people who vote that count, it’s the people who count the votes” – Joseph Stalin
Here is an excerpt from BBC News March 11, 2014:
Iraq former president Saddam Hussein also won 100% votes in a 2002 referendum on whether his decades-long rule was to continue. Former Supreme Leader Kim Jong-il fared almost as well as his son in 2009, winning 99.9 % of votes. Raul Castro earned 99.4% votes in the 2008 Cuban election and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad secured 97.6% votes for his 2007 presidential referendum.
This count is only for the ballots – the number of ballots. So if Maricopa says we have for example 2,150,999 ballots and the count here says 1,960,200 then Sen Fann knows there is a problem in just the reporting of the numbers from MBOS.
Of course the result of all this will be glaring, in-your-face fraud, yet the msm will refuse to cover the story, the courts will declare there’s no standing to hear such a case.
Assuming AZ proves fraud on a scale that swung the state from Trump to Biden, and assuming GA is around the corner from doing the same, then we go to Pennsylvania.
My guess is that if the feds have not stepped in by the time GA announces its audit results, they will certainly do so before PA gets the chance. PA is the firewall; President * cannot allow THAT domino to fall.
But, maybe we can replace 3 Senators. At least that might help some.
This utterance is very true. The least likely audit determination from a forensic audit is one that finds no charges. I will patiently await the final audit report and pray for our country that there are enough discrepancies found to rule in Trumps favor.
Listened to the audio recording; the first time I heard Fann speak. To me, that was a confident, clear, credible, unhesitating, direct and strong voice.
I need to listen to her more often … and I am wondering what her overall political plans might be; mostly because she, at least, sounds a lot better than the others they have out there in the Gov, SOS and AG positions. Mind you, I appreciate the fact that just “sounding” better does not necessarily imply governing better.
Hmmm … just saying.
“One falls they all fall”-Steve Bannon. When that happens then our Real President Trump will be able to hammer the Body Snatcher in the White House as an illegitimate President. Gonna be fun.
You don’t say.
AZ REPUBLICANS
IMPEACH & REMOVE THE CORRUPT OFFICIALS WHO CERTIFIED THIS FRAUD.
SECRETARY OF STATE KATIE HOBBS
RINO GOVERNOR DOUG DUVET.
THEY HAVE TO GO. NOW.
AND / What the heck is FECKLESS AZ AG Mar KK Brnovich doing?!?
Has Brnovich done anything yet?!? Anything?!?
While he may not have done as much as you would like, this was not insignificant:
https://www.rallyingpatriots.com/my-office-is-not-amused-arizona-attorney-general-mark-brnovich-pushes-back-against-biden-doj-threats/
Taking a very public stand over the sovereignty of state run elections is a big deal. The Federal overreach was apparent and he stood up to it.
The question will be answered soon about what and who will be willing to do anything about this.
We know they won’t match. But personally I want there to continue to be no leaks until the audit report has been delivered in secret to the Arizona Senate and they decide as a body when and how to release it to the general public. When I first get to see the results, I want them to be the best results obtainable … knowing that they will be immediately subjected to every angle of challenge known to man. They managed to maintain airtight security. Now, make that security pay off. I can wait a little longer to read the best thing you can write.
I am hopeful the absolute TRUTH aim numbers will prevail once this is over. This shows how volatile the voting system is. Let’s make sure these re-counts are done in the exact same method for comparison…hand count to hand count AND machine count to machine count. NOT hand counting to machine count.
I hope all the criminals in this disaster are crapping YUGE bricks, i wonder if the auditors are releasing little tidbits just to twist the knife/
Don’t get the point of announcing something so meaningless. Ballots don’t match. Has there ever been a recount where the second count exactly matched the original. No. Keep quiet until you have something meaningful to say.
Biden unleashing any/all efforts to undermine accountability in our election process?
Is this what leaders do???
I see now some are looking at “downstream” election results, and finding the same manipulation of totals occurred there.
At first, I thought the lack of Biden “coattails” was because the fraudsters only focused on the POTUS election.
The reports of many machine marked ballots, which only were marked for POTUS supported this notion.
Now I believe the results were predetirmined, not just for POTUS, but for ALL races.
However, PDJT “broke the algorythm” with his unprecedented turn out, hence the “shut down the counting, and stuff like crazy, in the middle of the night.
They didn’t have the TIME to manufacture additional paper ballots (to make the paper count match the computer tally) incorporating downstream fixed results cheating, AND DIDN’T NEED TO.
By producing ballots ONLY marked for POTUS, with NO selections for downstream races, they KEPT the predetirmined results for all the downstream races, the same.
Basically, I don’t trust ANY winner of the 2020 election, be it mayor, city council, State Senator or Governor.
Not fair, but “there it is”.
In PA they manufactured additional paper ballots ahead of time (Oct), then drove them from
Bethpage Long Island back to Lancaster..
And the numbers will never match