My headline is what happened, the New York Times headline is massive spin: “Apple Is Said to Have Turned Over Data on Trump’s White House Counsel in 2018”.
Notice what the New York Times is doing here. Everything about their article is written to hide, obfuscate and ignore the reality of what their article actually is revealing. Look closely:
“tactics by the Trump Justice Department“? This is far beyond spin, it is an intentional effort at cognitive dissonance. Perhaps this article is written now because the Durham investigation is going to reveal how Mueller and Weissmann conducted investigative surveillance over the Trump White House… Likely, but rather than supposition let’s just go to the reality of the details.
The headline positions Apple as the center, but the real nub of the revelation is that Weissmann and Mueller used the Special Counsel and FBI to conduct surveillance on the White House legal counsel, and his family, while President Donald Trump was in office. Think about that for a moment. Think about it carefully.
Imagine if Donald Trump allies in the DOJ and FBI were conducting surveillance on Joe Biden’s White House legal counsel? The media would go absolutely bonkers… rightfully so; yet, that is exactly what happened when Trump was in office. The intelligence apparatus was weaponized to conduct political surveillance of President Trump, through the White House legal counsel, while he was in office.
THIS IS A MASSIVE issue. Yet the media are downplaying what took place because, well, the stunning abuse of DOJ power is in alignment with their political objectives.
From the article (emphasis mine):
WASHINGTON — Apple told Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel to former President Donald J. Trump, last month that the Justice Department had subpoenaed information about an account that belonged to him in February 2018, and that the government barred the company from telling him at the time, according to two people briefed on the matter.
Mr. McGahn’s wife received a similar notice from Apple, said one of the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter.
It is not clear what F.B.I. agents were scrutinizing, nor whether Mr. McGahn was their specific focus. In investigations, agents sometimes compile a large list of phone numbers and email addresses that were in contact with a subject, and seek to identify all those people by using subpoenas to communications companies for any account information like names, computer addresses and credit card numbers associated with them.
Still, the disclosure that agents secretly collected data of a sitting White House counsel is striking as it comes amid a political backlash to revelations about Trump-era seizures of data of reporters and Democrats in Congress for leak investigations. The president’s top lawyer is also a chief point of contact between the White House and the Justice Department.
Notice what the NYT is doing here? They are attempting to blame Trump for a subpoena against his own White House counsel. Crazy level of spin to cloud the real story of what was going on.
Apple told Mr. McGahn that it complied with the subpoena in a timely fashion but declined to tell him what it provided the government, according to a person briefed on the matter. Under Justice Department policy, gag orders for subpoenas may be renewed for up to a year at a time, suggesting that prosecutors went to court several times to prevent Apple from notifying the McGahns earlier.
[…] Apple told the McGahns that it received the subpoena on Feb. 23, 2018, according to a person briefed on the matter. The other person familiar with the matter said the subpoena had been issued by a grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia.
It is not clear why prosecutors obtained the subpoena. But several notable events were occurring around that time. (read more)
February 2018 was at the time when the Weissmann/Mueller special counsel was at its apex. In early February the corrupt special counsel found out about the FBI leak investigation into the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) that surrounded James Wolfe and Senator Mark Warner.
The leak investigation was run out of the Washington Field Office by Brian Dugan. The special counsel was unaware until the case against Wolfe was complete.
What the special counsel was doing in February 2018 was: (1) covering the tracks of the Obama-era political surveillance; (2) trying to retain their own investigative credibility by hiding prior abuses by the DOJ and FBI during that surveillance; (3) continue surveillance of the Trump administration under the auspices of a “Trump-Russia Collusion/Conspiracy” investigation; and (3) build a fraudulent obstruction case against President Trump in order to remove him from office.
As Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein noted in his April 2020 testimony to congress, Rosenstein was facilitating all the requests made by the special counsel. Rosenstein did not question any of the expanded scope requests from Weissmann/Mueller, and Rosenstein did not deny an requests for investigative tools or techniques that required his signature. In short, Rosenstein gave the special counsel every authority they requested without any pushback. When Rosenstein was questioned about this he said he didn’t feel it was appropriate to challenge the special counsel as it could be perceived as him interfering with their “investigative techniques” and “authorities.”
So what this New York Times article is really highlighting is how the Weissmann/Mueller special counsel went after the personal records of White House Attorney Don McGhan and his family. DOJ Attorney Andrew Weissmann was digging for information that could be used against the Trump White House. THAT is where the subpoenas came from.
It is possible the New York Times is trying to get out in front of the issue with this article. Keep in mind the primary PR firm of the FBI is the New York Times. When the FBI needs cover, they shape their side of events to the New York Times via “people familiar with the matter” etc.
Perhaps Durham is close to reporting on the motives and operations of the Special Counsel, who knows? But there’s a reason why the New York Times is trying to cloud the background of what this surveillance of the Trump White House counsel is all about.
Painter sticks his hand down through his throat to wipe his ass.
Painter doesn’t have to stick his hand down through his throat to wipe his ass, he just licks his lips.
When you think the world can’t get more stupider…
“I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.”
My own view is that this planet is used as a penal colony, lunatic asylum and dumping ground by a superior civilization, to get rid of the undesirable and unfit. I can’t prove it, but no one can disprove it either.
Hitchens is on to something.
Was…
Touche
RIP Mr. Hitchens
I don’t want them to live on this planet anymore. The planet itself is just fine.
If cows could tweet, they would tweet things this insipid.
This spin will be reported as fact by tomorrow morning.
It’s the wrap up smear!
Unbelievable replies on that tweet. Almost every one blames President Trump. Only a couple replies got it right. One person claimed that it was untrue that obama spied on President Trump.
I can’t believe how stupid and blind they are.
Believe it.
Many in my family are ‘true believers’ and it pains me to have to say that their stupidity knows no bounds.
It’s not stupidity. They have been successfully brainwashed to such a degree they are incapable of seeing reality at all. They do not comprehend even the most basic concepts.
mine too
I have a couple in my family, too.
It’s Twitter for gosh sakes.
As Rush Limbaugh said,
“What percentage of the population do you think uses Twitter on a daily basis? Two percent. Maybe. I can’t say for sure. I don’t have any confirmed data. I have read, and I don’t even remember where or when, that it is 7% and that most of Twitter is New York and LA. California and New York, maybe San Francisco. Well, if you believe that, then that explains why Twitter is the sewer that it is. And I’m talking about political sewer, ideological, political sewer.”.
You are right. It’s just that when I am smacked in the face with the evidence, I’m always surprised. I like to think the best of people and believe they are intelligent until they prove me wrong. My naïveté.
There are good folks on twitter. But too many were kicked off for questioning covid, the election, BLM, etc. So who is left? And also there are still LOTS of “bots” – fake automated accounts that echo all the lefwing garbage. Twitter tried to insist they had stopped that but Rush and few others found out that the bots are still there. Where 10 people can make it seem like they are 1,000 people…..
Redpill? Nah, I thought it would require a huge suppository. Now I am convinced only an enema will do. They are not simply blind. They are full of fecal matter.
Mine, too btw.
Seriously? How stupid do they think we are
Stroke face should STFU, once and for all. Mr. Dumpster fires doesn’t seem to have enough insight nor self awareness to make the bold statements he makes. God help his family, dealing with this freak.
…….poor Rod
He may think he’s safe because, golly, the “russia, russia, russia” investigation gave cause for Mueller and his team to have FULL control of everything DOJ.
~The best IS yet to come???
…….poor Rod
He may think he’s safe because, golly, the “russia, russia, russia” investigation
gave cause for Mueller and his team
to have FULL control of everything DOJ. (eye roll)
The best IS yet to come ? ? ?
Steve Jobs will be reburied every year in a slightly better coffin
The State.
Nothing outside the State.
Nothing against the State.
These are our rulers now.
Republican Congressmen asked for (subpoenad, demanded) endless documents from bureaucrats (Rosenstein, Wray, Haspel etc.) during the Trump years and were ignored.
Who rules America?
Not our elected representatives, that’s for sure.
Projection – their favorite weapon.
“Don’t let THEM bamboozle you”
“THEY’LL try to hoodwink you”
~Yes WE can”
“No more smoke-filled back room deals”
NYT being the outlet for the Fan Belt Inspectors should do a better job because this is crystal clear.
In the meantime the man who outed Clinton Lynch tarmac meeting committed suicide.
This country is more and more like Russia and China every day
This country is worse. The others don’t proclaim to be a glorious democracy under rule of law and all that jazz.
Republic, I think you mean…
Christopher Sign is another dead person who apparently said that he would never commit suicide.
https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1404052258111774721/photo/1
Arkancide
May God welcome Christopher Sign to loving embrace, and comfort his family.
“Sign said his investigations into the tarmac meeting had led to numerous credible death threats.
‘My family received significant death threats shortly after breaking this story,’ he told Fox. ‘Credit cards hacked. You know, my children, we have code words. We have secret code words that they know what to do.’
He added that his work had nothing to do with right or left-wing politics, but about what is right and wrong.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9681551/Journalist-broke-Bill-Clinton-Loretta-Lynch-tarmac-story-dies-suicide.html
No one was more surprised at Christopher’s sudden suicide than Christopher himself!
RIP Mr. Sign. Doing what is right and moral.
The husband of a cousin of mine has a good friend who has dealt with the Kkklinton’s. The friend is scared to death and takes every precaution.
How terrible to live in such fear.
that’s called Arkside
Thats called Arkanside sorry for the typo
I thought it was CSDS
Clinton Sudden Death Syndrome
Third time is the charm.
Arcan’c’ide.
He got arkancided.
Sigh.
I have no words. Pushing this boulder uphill is exhausting but we have no other alternative.
I say we side step and let them be removed by their own rolling stone and then use it as a part of the foundation like we were supposed to in the first place.
Time to remove the corruption and put the original foundation back to order without the bloat, criminal corruption, and treasonous traitors.
How does a prosecutor issue a subpoena? That’s a new one for me.
Don McGahn and Rudy Giuilani should have a little talk and compare notes.
Did the Russia/Russia/Russia team get a FISA warrant against Don McGahn before they worked through the grand jury process in EDVA? It is pretty apparent the DOJ must have used the FISA court against Rudy.
How is Robert Mueller’s dementia? Was that an act?
Were Mueller and Biden in the same dementia acting class ? Remember Herr Mueller is now going to teach a university course. Hopefully someone will sneak a video of how well he speaks doing it.
Mueller is ok now— Ok enough to teach a class at some University.
I’m sure his dementia will conveniently return if he’s called to testify.
You beat me to it.
Good post.
Good point.
I would say I am shocked, but being grounded in reality and observant of the facts on the ground versus the real colluders, I am not.
Once again, in a just USA, all these scumbags would be charged, and in jail awaiting trial.
But until we get a real champion for justice in the DOJ, we are all just whistling past the graveyard of America.
A simple question with a simple answer.
Who was in control of the DOJ during the Mueller investigation?
Rosenstein.
Rosenstein just held the rubber stamp.
Herr Brennan w/ domestic & foreign globalist totalitarians. This is very big and very dangerous.
No one exists who is strong enough, capable enough and loyal enough to the nation to do the right, honest, just thing.
All 3 branches of govt are severely corrupt, as is the bureaucracy and many state govts.
Were they all/most blackmailed to do this– destroy freedom, the Constitution, the great American Experiment?
Can’t be mere bribery. That’s not a strong enough motivator to commit treason and destroy the freedom and future of even their own children & grandchildren.
Are we instead controlled at the highest levels by a bunch of clinical psychopaths? It would take that to do what they have done, deliberately and with full knowledge, to America and Americans, without the slightest concern for all those who sacrificed their own lives to pay for our freedom.
Herr Weissmann.
It’s not so simple, though, is it?
Technically, the “simple” answer is Jeff Sessions (9 Feb ’17 – 7 Nov ’18)… But we all know Sessions recused himself of all things Russia, Russia, Russia and Russia, Russia, Russia was dominating the DOJ….
So then you might say, Rod Rosenstein as Deputy AG… But that is not right either because Rosenstein abdicated his oversight responsibility and gave the Mueller team a free pass to do whatever the hell they wanted….
So you then might say Mueller was in control of DOJ because DOJ was all about getting Trump through the Mueller probe and he was allegedly in charge of it… But that is not right either because it would seem that Mueller was a useful idiot that gave the SC an air of credibility but couldn’t keep up or process his own investigation (unless that testimony was an act)….
So I guess the question is ‘who was the puppeteer over Mueller the puppet?’…. That answer would be Weissmann….
So I guess the not-so-simple answer to your simple question is Andrew Weissmann….
You answered the simple question. But not before putting a bunch of junk in front of it.
Not junk. We must reconcile the insane behavior of Barr too. Weissman is merely a puppet/”soldier” too… obviously.
Wow… Pretty rude… Sorry I didn’t meet your standards.
Not “junk”…. Facts…. All facts… I’ll try to do better next time, Junior.
LiveFreeOrDieGuy: I liked the way you distilled it.
Thanks, Issy!
Yes…. but then who is the puppeteer over Weissman? It’s not Weissman running this show either.
See also Sydney Powell’s book, “License to Lie”.
Who was supposed to be
~fixed it
You fixed squat.
“Supposed” is meaningless.
Right. “Supposed” is meaningless. Nothing was fixed.
In fact, it’s worse now, far more dangerous now… b/c now all these govt criminals know, for certain, they … can do anything to anyone and escape justice. They are gods now, emboldened and untouchable which makes them immeasurably more dangerous now than they were 5 years ago.
Donald J TRUMP is not allowed to have counsel. Haven’t we learned that by now?
Michael Cohen raided.
Rudy G raided.
Donald McCahn raided.
I honestly have NEVER seen anything like this criminality in my lifetime.
BTW, the Special Counsel WAS NOT, IS NOT, and NEVER WAS President TRUMP’s DOJ. They may have taken over the DOJ and the FBI, and they did, but they had nothing to do with President TRUMP’s DOJ.
Keep exposing these “corrupted” democratic and rino deep starters for what, where, how and why they did it in terms of not only how they continually and deliberately as well as
intentionally seek to harm former President Trump but how they deliberately seek to harm as well as intentionally harm the United States for their own personal gain – power!! Could and is this the definition of abuse of power as well as the definition of Treason as defined in the United States Constitution??!!
“I honestly have NEVER seen anything like this criminality in my lifetime.”
Nor have any of us. If I may be permitted to speak for the rest of us.
You can speak for me.
We live in a banana republic and We the People are serfs now.
TwoLaine: Correct, thanks to Mitch & the cabal, Trump never had a doj. I put the blame on the little elf that turned the doj over to the get Trump brigade.
Congrats to Mr Mueller for conducting the most corrupt, useless, and expensive investigation in DOJ history. Thirty five million dollars, 18 biased Democrat attorneys, 2 million documents, 300 subpoenas, 500 witnesses. And at the end of the day, they couldn’t even charge President Trump with a parking ticket.
Higher.
Not useless. Absolutely served a purpose.
The level of cooperation between media and deep state is incredible really.
Years and years of positioning the right people at the right places must have happened.
DD
Bill Barr was a colossal failure….
I disagree, he is a bagpipe legend.
Bill Barf has been a stellar success…in whitewashing criminal misconduct by the fedgov.
Shyster: Or, a stupendous success. Depends on one’s perspective.
Sessions and Barr and Wray. Scum.
And Rosenstein.
Colossal criminal.
Barr and Sessions are, IMO, completely incomprehensible. Their actions defy who they have said they are, passionately, for decades. I don’t know how either can live with themselves. I can only attribute their nonsensical behavior to blackmail. Same for Pence.
Barr is a criminal and a traitor.
Shyster: He did exactly what he was tasked to do, and it wasn’t to help President Trump.
I still do not believe Durham is a real person. I do not believe there will be a report. I definitely believe nobody is going to jail for his or her role in this Russia business.
There will be a “report” justin time to be used in swamp favor for 2022 mid term
a dear friend of mine from Louisiana used to say “Susan Sarandon” when he meant “cellophane” or rather – “Saran Wrap” –
“so, what do you prefer to do – wrap it up in aluminum foil or Susan Sarandon”
“I wrapped up the rest of that po boy in Susan Sarandon”
so herewith in honor of Thomcat, I offer this:
“wrap up that bull, Durham, in some Susan Sarandon and put in the fridge . . . with the keys (that you will someday find)”
I know, obscure as hell, but I am just imagining his take on all this.
“wrap up that bull, Durham, in some Susan Sarandon and put it . . . ”
(not sure where, but in further thinking about it, I think he would not want to put it in the fridge)
It does look that way. The only picture I’ve ever seen of him is that one with the bearded scowling face.
The bigger story is Biden’s recent directive to the Department of Justice:
Biden has ordered that the Department of Justice will no longer conduct criminal leaks of our nations most Top Secret information.
As long as the leaks are made to the “news media” ( American, Chinese, Russian ).
“Going forward, consistent with the president’s direction, this Department of Justice — in a change to its longstanding practice — will not seek compulsory legal process in leak investigations to obtain source information from members of the news media doing their jobs,” Mr. Coley said in a statement.
He added, “The department strongly values a free press, protecting First Amendment values and is committed to taking all appropriate steps to ensure the independence of journalists.”
Ms. Psaki also emphasized the change in policy.
“While the White House does not intervene in criminal investigations, the issuing of subpoenas for the records of reporters in leak investigations is not consistent with the president’s policy direction to the department, and the Department of Justice has reconfirmed it will not be used moving forward,” she said.
https://archive.is/UX1Ev#selection-561.0-579.314
Translation: “We are leaking top secret material and we don’t want ourselves investigated.”
Translation: “We leak what we want to leak, when we want to leak to co-opt the fourth estate for our best narrative benefit, so stop asking where the leaks are coming from. If we wanted you to know, we’d tell you.”
The leaks haven’t been investigated in the past anyway.
Remember the cruel and unusual punishment that the person got who leaked the transcripts of Trumps phone calls? No I don’t either.
House et al want testimony about FBI / DOJ acquiring records but no way they let to come out about SSCI’s “leak” of the entire Carter Page FISA with Wolfe covering for Burr and company. They just want to make it appear that Orange man bad not that it was the swamp denizens that were the valid target.
The Democrats that were theoretically targeted were the ones leaking. Someone points that out to Piglosi and it will be all swept under the rug again.
Our side is abused mercilessly. Trump and Rs are abused viciously, dishonestly, unjustly, unrelentingly… and no one DOES anything to stop it. Republicans with power in Congress do nothing to protect us all, including themselves, from attack by what, in many cases, is a criminal conspiring leftist propaganda machine hiding under constitutional 1st amendment protections.
Will they hoist the flags tomorrow, since it’s Flag Day—but Trump’s birthday, too?
Well, we have precedent!
There’s a school in NJ that will no longer use holiday names on its calendar. What used to be Christmas was changed to Winter Break or Winter Holiday. That’s no good anymore. The new term to use for all formerly called holidays is Days Off.
To answer your question, the fourth day of July will be celebrated as a Day Off.
Winter may take a break, but Wokeness never does.
maybe instead of fireworks at The Mall, it will be a giant hologram.
Like they did with Tupac Shakur at Coachella (the music festival in the Coachella Valley)
Apple: San Bernadino massacre shooter’s data is protected and we won’t give it to FBI. Also Apple: sure we’ll help spy on the bad orange man for the FBI
yes – exactly! some of us DO remember!
including Adam Housley reporting from the scene – using the phrase, more than once: “weird names”
we thought he would get fired for that but he didn’t
I am heartened that Sundance thinks there is still a possibility of a Durham Report. I gave up on Durham when Barr said he say no evidence of election fraud.
“Perhaps Durham is close to reporting on the motives and operations of the Special Counsel, who knows? But there’s a reason why the New York Times is trying to cloud the background of what this surveillance of the Trump White House counsel is all about.” From the above article.
The name “Durham” seems to magically and mysteriously appear every now and then it seems, when John Solomon needs a little publicity. Could this strange and elusive character really be some kind of subconscious imaginary friend of John’s? Or, perhaps some kind of Freudian “wish fulfillment” archetype? Maybe it all started when George Washington used “Durham” boats to cross the Delaware . . .
or maybe like Mitt Romney’s alter ego, “Pierre Delecto”
All the deep state bureaucrats who did this are still there and emboldened with the knowledge that they got away with it. There were no white hats among them.
The first day in office of any real conservative president must be to fire every single government employee within the executive administration.
The FBI must be abolished as well as the CIA. The DHS must be broken up. The “Patriot Act” must be repealed.
The entire notion of “civil service” employees must be attacked for what it is: a 100% patronage racket for the left. A very simple fix: civil service employees must reflect the political demographics of the population (certified by each political party and NOT by some government HR office). If they refuse, abolish the civil service and replace them with temporary contract employees with zero “tenure” rights and time limited total service limits.
The DOD has close to 1,000,000 “civil service” employees out of the Federal Governments’ around 2,000,000. Any big reduction in “civil service” employees would have to hit the DOD big time. And it should.
“ The ‘Patriot Act’ must be repealed.”
This is the hinge on which the entire corrupt edifice now swings. It must be hauled out beyond the Continental Shelf and sunk measureless fathoms deep.
Patriot act was definitely the demise of our country.
Yes. The Fed Govt is so dysfunctional now that they hire private federal contractors to do the jobs of federal workers who either refuse to do their jobs or are incapable of doing their jobs but cannot be fired or demoted.
Here we go again. The political carousel goes round and round and even though the colors may change, it’s the same old tired horse at each turn.
The Marxists do it because they know there will be no resistance from the RINOs and that they know that can get away with it.
If I understand this correctly this is the second NYT piece this week on DOJ investigating data on Apple accounts. The first article was about a leak investigation involving Rep Schiff among others. As usual Sen Collins (Maine) gets everything assbackwards:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/13/collins-really-important-there-is-in-depth-investigation-of-trump-era-doj/
And keep in mind, Senator Collins is a member of the Senate Intel Committee. May be the one designated to cover for the rest.
Notice how she says “Trump era” doj. She knows it wasn’t his doj at all.
And let me guess,
McConnell and Graham are as quiet as cowardly church mice shaking in the corner over this abuse of power.
2nd question…….
How much of this did Barr know about and what did he do??
All. Nothing.
Barr playing dumb –
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/11/barr-distances-democratic-subpoenas-493491
Sen. Collins wants an investigation. Rep Nancy Mace putting her foot in her mouth again.
There is a reason for that.
That was so yesterday! Forget about it!
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Donald John Trump is the most investigated man in human history. If Diogenes ever ran into him, Diogenes would put down his lamp forever.
There are rumors of a hacked email between Mueller and Weisman.
Mueller: Maybe we should have investigated Mother Theresa instead.
Weisman: I agree. We would have had a better chance getting something on her.
These seditious “lawyers” (and I happen to be one, just not the seditious kind) redefine the word brazen.
The only reason Mueller and Weismann would do this is because they know they have Carte Blanche and a free pass courtesy of untouchables above them.
They can produce no material evidence for any of these fishing expeditions and have systematically run rough shod over prior DOJ prosecutorial rules, which obviously were thrown on a funeral pyre by BHO and his Baria appointees at the Department.
The DOJ and FBI are riven with vermin so venal, that each agency needs to be dismantled, the criminals prosecuted, and then new law enforcement, unfamiliar with foggy bottom, put in place.
If Clemenza were to suddenly appear and take care of family business, it would actually be an improvement over the current situation, as there is no actual justice with these snakes, who once again, are wriggling freely in the swamp.
Oh, for a King Snake.
Once a G-D POS Commie propaganda ‘news’ source, ALWAYS a G-D POS Commie ‘news’ source.
Durham (if he exists) wasn’t to produce a report but indictments. It’s a target rich environment out there–fire in any direction and you’ll hit a deep state asset. Maybe he’ll produce something substantial, but in this long, hard, slog of proving the massive fraud and corruption, achieving substantial results seem like a dream.
And most of the evidence was already known before the investigation even started.
“DOJ Attorney Andrew Weissmann was digging for information that could be used against the Trump White House”
Not the least of which, some inside baseball chit-chat that could be used to snag Trump in a perjury trap… if only they could get him to sit down for an interview…
Once again, the cupboard door hinges squeak and after the briefest of pauses a skeletal knocking is heard at the bedroom door.. The media try to persuade or frighten the country to go back to sleep, but more and more are ignoring them, sitting up in bed and watching the shadowy figures try to to wrestle the bony horror back from whence it came. If truth be told, some of the bravest citizens creep out of bed and secretly loosten the cupboard latch!
“… revelations about Trump-era seizures of data of reporters and Democrats in Congress for leak investigations.”
Does this bother anyone else? “about…of…and…in…for…” (and that’s just the last part of the sentence.) They couldn’t break that into a couple of sentences instead of sticking phrases every which way so you can’t tell what they’re referring to (with reading Sundance’s explanation)?
Hate to say it, but that does not make sense. “Trump-era seizures” (that means seizure that took place during Trump’s time in office, I guess, but still awkward) then …”seizures OF data OF reporters AND Democrats IN congress FOR leak investigations”— is awkward as heck — “data of reporters and democrats”? What are they trying to say? That it’s data FROM them? About them? You don’t say data is “of” someone….And what do they mean by “data”? (which is vague as heck)?
Then there’s “reporter and Democrats in congress.” We have reporters in congress? If not, why’s the modifer dangling there at the end? Then another dangler — “for leak investigations”…what does that modify? Is it “data..for leak investigations” ? Or is it “seizures..for leak investigations”? Or…?
It’s unclear what they are saying. When papers hire according to ethnicity and ideology, rather than talent, this is what happens.. (P.S. If anyone tried to diagram that like we used to, this unclear mess of words would have dangling prepositional lines going in every which direction.)
Did anybody else read that three times and still have to say “Wha???”
BTW, did not mean to italicize! Must have been automatically on or something…
“Trump-era seizures” is a lot like “Vietnam-era Veteran”. It means you were never there.
All that you pointed out was intentional.
yes!
not only doing diagrams up at the chalkboard but the cumulative effect of reading books where the grammatical proprieties are observed . . .
as a Treeper recently commented on another thread about Secret Service agents being trained to recognize counterfeit US currency by handling and studying legitimate currency (this was on a thread about the Arizona election audit, where those workers will have been trained to recognize “counterfeit” votes and vote counting at the end of the day)
This stinks of Weissman. He is criminalizing the Right to Counsel. aka; “If you hire a lawyer, you’re guilty of Obstruction ipso facto.” For Republicans Only, natch.
I maintain that Andrew Weissmann is an abomination that should not be allowed to exist.
An overview of his career provides all necessary evidence to support this assertion.
Give him the “Weissmann special”, 23/7 solitary until an execution can be carried out. Good enough for Manafort, good enough for him.
They best way to purge them is to end their Departments.
I think if you start with their heads the other departments won’t matter.
No, the best way to purge them is with .45 ACP.
Yes! Needs to be a platform plank in some party. You know, follow the Constitution thing.
I suppose it’s too much to ask for Barr or anyone from the DOJ side of the Trump administration to express any outrage. And of course we’ll not hear from Mitch, even though you’d think someone would care about justice.
The purge of these losers will be quite rewarding. Let the chips fall where they may.
Does Trump even know that Herrs Weissmann and Mueller were effectively running DOJ ? He should have/should read CTH.
Unless and until we accept the FACT that Weismann/Mueller WERE THE DOJ during the entirety of the Mueller Inquisition, this is never going to move forward, let alone come to any type of successful conclusion.
Anyone saying otherwise, especially with Sessions as AG, is continuing the Great Lie.
DOJ watchdog will probe reported Trump-era subpoenas of Apple for Democrats’ data (cnbc.com)
This is connected with the recent story about Apple and Schiff and Swalwell. Was Weissman also spying on them? Or was it Main Justice, if there is even any such distinction.
They’re trying to pin this on True President Trump. but the DOJ was always under control of Shadow President Obama in his 3rd term, before his fourth term as Biden’s Brain.
The Democrat Bureau of Investigation and the Dept. of Democrat Justice have a few different ways they “investigate” Democrats:
1.) Somebody pissed off Obama (Blagojevich)
2.) It just got too big to ignore (Kwame)
3.) Charged but given a sweetheart deal, not to roll on the Bigger Fish, but to keep silent (Wolfe, Clinesmith)
4.) Charged for appearances’ sake, but rigged for acquittal (Greg Craig)
5.) Phony “investigation” designed to bury evidence–possibly also keeping that evidence as J. Edgar-style kompromat (Hunter’s laptop)
If Schiff and Swalwell were spied on by Mueller or some other Deep State pals, it was probably to protect Swalwell from the Fang Fang story and Schiff from the Ed Buck story.
Whenever I read stuff like this, I always wonder if anything will become of it. I mean in a judicial way. While I’m always hopeful, I remain skeptical.
The DS will put out stuff like this for years. I believe the purpose is to troll the Deplorables, infuriate and torture us.
Water Guy: Wonder no more, nothing will come of it. Same ole song, rules were broken and mistakes were made.
So the Schiff-Swalwell story was merely misdirection to prep for this latest outrage..
That’s what I’m thinking, although you can’t limit them to a single bad motive.
btw, “Trump officials” is an old trick by now. The Jelly-filled Vindman Twins were “Trump officials”. Comey and McCabe, too–even Mueller and Weissman, etc.
Careful that you are not reported for “wrong think”.
“The intelligence apparatus was weaponized to conduct political surveillance of President Trump, through the White House legal counsel, while he was in office.”
Well yeah, they are communists. Why wouldn’t they be dong this.
So how is the “spun” correctly, and who is going to do it? Bannon’s Warroom? Will McCahn file a lawsuit? Will Steve Miller’s new “lawfare” group take it on? Seriously, how much more of this lawlessness will be overlooked?
Edit: Perhaps Rudy needs to get involved.
“Will McCahn file a lawsuit?”
I guess not.
Apple told the McGahns that it received the subpoena on Feb. 23, 2018
I wonder what AG Sessions and President Trump did when alerted by McCahn??
Sessions went into the fetal position. Then somebody whispered “obstruction” in Trump’s ear.
While Apple received the subpoena in 2018 they only recently informed McGahn of that fact. Apparently (presumptively?) the gag order on Apple was renewed an additional two times (annual renewal). So my guess is that Session and Trump are also only finding out about it now as well.
That statement is badly written: is it trying to imply that McGahn was informed on Feb23? Or is it saying that Apple told McCahn they received the subpoena on Feb 23rd.
Apple doesn’t have to tell McCahn that the DOJ was digging through his information…in fact, I bet the DOJ told Apple to keep quiet.
I don;t think we will be hearing too much from Rudy. They have some accusations and manufactured charges ready to go in NY.
??????#MAGA
Man the enemy is good. And fearless! We should take a page from their book.
Just to be sure I have this right. Garland and the DOJ are investigating people doing an audit but will have no comment about people spying on the white house.
Nor will they actually investigate election fraud caught on camera in Atlanta. That too is ignored.
But they (Apple) wouldn’t help with the San Bernardino terrorizers?
Hear that? Hear it? The Vichy Repubs calling for heads on platters just like the Demonic Pedo Dems would do? Yeah I dont hear it either. Thats why I hate them.
81 million people believe it, so says Joe.