Wyoming GOP representative Liz Cheney, a Decepticon of the highest tier, appears smugly on Fox News for an interview. As much as the interview itself is insufferable in its disconnect many people need to watch and accept.
Cheney ramps-up the attacks against President Trump and his supporters. Keep in mind that Trump holds more than 85% approval within the party, yet Cheney and the Decepticons just don’t care; they hate anyone who does not facilitate their power demand. They hate you.
They hate us.
Additionally, two-thirds of the republican house conference voted to keep Cheney in her position. There is no way to reconcile the disconnect between what the elected GOP are doing against the will of the majority unless you accept they just don’t care. Trumpet!
Chris Wallace, a gatekeeper for all things swamp, was gleeful to provide Cheney with the opportunity to attack Trump supporters. The interview is telling on many fronts, but how many republicans will finally accept their status? The GOP doesn’t care what you think about them… they are the second wing of the UniParty vulture.
Stop being a battered conservative and start accepting that two-thirds of the republican party do not want you in the room. Remind yourself of this example when the insufferable apologists try to tell you a third party is not needed. The republican party must be destroyed or we will continue the cycle of abuse.
Here’s the full interview:
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Bring on the battle…. The GOPe must be destroyed !
On the bright side, President Trump fan Tom Brady is getting another Super Bowl ring!
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3rd parties don’t always fail, and can succeed when they represent a true movement, one not represented by existing political parties. The Republican Party was one such, being abolitionist. Today, we have an overweening Uniparty, owned by multinational corporations, using their money to buy and even steal elections, using the media as their propaganda arm, censoring free speech, invalidating state and federal law on a whim. Much like 170 years ago, something very bad in government needs to be abolished, and existing governance has no clue of how to do this, nor do they want to.
If letting the R’s die is the first step, let it be so.
Thank you for stating it so plainly.
Let’s hope more and more people come to realize this.
Running “good GOP candidates” in primaries matters not a whit, because even if they should win election, they will go bad the minute they come under the control of the GOP leadership in D.C.
Reliably Deplorable. You mean take over the GOP who has Romney who asked for and got President Trump’s endorsement then voted to impeach him? Or are you thinking of Murkowski who lost her primary so ran as a write in and her Democrat pals helped her win? Or McConnell helping to take out Roy Moore so the Democrat would win? Take over THAT Repub Party? Good luck with that.
Cheney is a war mongering Military Industrial Complex darling.
A fair measurement of the GOP and Dominion will be the 2022 House elections. As an At Large Rep. in Wyoming, Cheney can be expected to be primaried to retirement. Time will tell.
IMO, Chaney knows she’s gone in 2 years, or is planning to move to the private sector… so she is likely saying what will position her for a high paying corporate job.
If she’s not re-elected she’ll be back as a lobbyist. To heck with corporate work.
Right. Election fraud won’t be used in 2022.
I’m sure she’s already now paid in full for Romney’s Utah Senate seat in 2024. She’ll faun over Conservatives like Trump finding that she misunderstood him and she’d be dedicated to supporting policies like Trump espoused if only the good Republican voters gave her the seat. She’ll raise 100 million dollars for that 300K a year job. And as soon as she wins it she’ll be there voting with Democrats and denigrating Trump and his supporters again.
Screw Primaries
That game is over we lost time and time again. We fight them in their house with their rules against our dollars.
We go it alone. I want Sundance’s Patriot dragging both parties out graphic as our symbol. We can pick up the dis-enchanted from both parties that way. Just as Trump did.
Call it the Patriot Party, The American First party, or confuse the hell out of everyone and call it The Workers Party. But it needs to happen and we need to act now. Our Party Our Rules and Our Money.
Perhaps we all start what we can and then consolidate in 6 months, those that wont let their egos get in the way of consolidating we don,t need
For those who want to talk about a failed Bull Moose party. It didn’t fail Teddy wanted to take the Republican Turncoat out and he did. We need to attack the political establishment period. Frame them as they are lazy teat sucking curs unworthy of our respect in any forum or debate. “We will debate the enemy on issues, but that doesn’t mean I respect your ideas, your powdered dainties, or you personally.” WAR!
Speaking of a Workers party the AFL/CIO, UAWs exposure in the Times article Guarantees a lot of pissed off Union Brothers, Cater to them bring them in, We will need them in the cities when ballots start coming in Brothers facing off with Brothers should help keep things cleaner.
The Workers Party is the best suggestion I’ve heard. Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration. Being called the Workers Party might also help some of us avoid falling into our bad habit of confusing crony capitalism with actual free markets – like those “start your own platform” doofuses who still think Dorsey and Zuckerberg are benevolent entrepreneurs not evil censorious monopolists. Small business owners would feel perfectly comfortable in The Workers Party because nobody works harder than a small business owner.
That word “workers” is a Communist term that was deliberately used to divorce, in the public mind, the relationahip between the EMPLOYER who paid the EM0LOYEES, and thereby undermine the idea that employees were getting paid to do work to a set of standards.
It’s already been co-opted by the Left.
I like the plain old American Party. It will appeal to red-blooded Americans of every color, status, occupation, gender, etc. It unifies.
Exactly
Confuse the hell out of them. Let them attack us for be8ng communists LOL
We need some “Socialist distancing” ASAP, lol
Please explain how we are going to organize this new party in every state and run MAGA candidates in 2022 and then 2024.
Do any of you people actually have a plan or an idea of how this massive undertaking is even going to get off the ground?
“Cannot Ever Happen Again” at MyPillow website
It’s happening…friend in Wyoming….it’s happening…they are PISSED!
We need warriors to fight against Satan in DC.
Saul Alinsky is ruling this country.
Yep. We can “elect” whoever we want. They still won’t take office.
If we actually destroyed the RINOs, your comment might make sense. But we now know for damn sure that we can’t leave them submerged in the swamp until they get a chance to sneak out again.
Totally disagree with the third party talk. That is the sure way to have total control by Democrats for the next 20 years or more. What we need is a formal sub-party or caucus within the GOP that primaries and challenges these folks at every turn. Many of them can be defeated, and after a few election cycles the rest of them will either get the message or they’ll eventually be defeated too. That’s the way to do it.
I’ve heard this all my life.
I’m DONE. GOP has systemic deep state globalism and just not fixable.
I can’t vote for Lindsay Graham again. This is my “Red Line”!
Hes a nevertrumper why do they keep voting for him he is not a good guy. Ges a huge warmonger who loves Biden and Obama
Open primaries….. Beloved by the Left. We barely escaped that in FL this last election, as a constitutional amendment, SPONSORED BY A RINO. We staved it off by only 3%.
Because the RNC controls the primaries and “You have to vote for us because they are real bad on the other side”.
Amen Trump will fix it
No! Conservatives have the responsibility to rectify this situation. PDJT gave us the courage and the incentive to break free from the war lovers and grifters. It’s our turn to step up and finish the job he began. He is 74 years old for Gods sake! Does he have to give his life for the cause? New leadership is the answer. The legislatures of the two dozen or so Conservative States must be the focus of push back against the unifascist party. Reassert States rights and kill the D C beast.
The Constitutional Liberty Party. With the Tree of Liberty as our symbol. I’ve worked on behalf of Republican candidates for over 50 years.
Worked the 1972 Republican Convention in Miami. Been an Independent voter for 20 years but always voted Republican. The Republican Party was always Big Biz but the alternative was never an option. Worked my heart out for the Party but NO MORE. Start The Constitutional Liberty and voters will flock to it. A $10.00 donation from 80,000,000 fed up Americans would get this thing rolling. Start it and People will come running. This inertia will decay into apathy in we wait much longer. The Country is burning and Conservatives seem paralyzed with fear and uncertainties. Let’s Roll!
That is how Venezuela became a hard socialist country. people decided not to fight because it was “useless” Get involved. Become a precinct committeeman. Check http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com
Sundance and you and me know about the uniparty. A lot of the 78+million voters voted for the GOP, don’t know and they will continue voting for the GOP. They are honest hardworking people that have no time to get involved in depth in the political landscape. A third party sounds a clean start but also will need a engaged people… you can be engaged now in the GOP.
Yes but we have to be willing to purge at least a few even if it means voting for a dem or splitting the ticket.
Voting for a Dem…?
No. Just no.
Never vote dem. God is watching and he wouldn’t like that.
Exactly! NEVER.
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If that was the way to do it; it would be done by NOW? Many “Democrats” are not happy with their Party either.
The Dem’s get 25% on the Far Left, the R’s get 25% on the Far Right, We get the 50% in the middle; with broad appeal of common sense governance and economic growth by promoting more peace and prosperity.
President has suggestedThe Patriot Party, but I would like to make it his by callig it the MAGA Party. I’m eagerly awaiting his next words to us, feel like we have to “sit tight” until that happens. He knows us. Knows we are here, waiting. Willing and Able!
Or the Constitution Party
Dem voters hate repugs. Give them an option and they will come running. They have been brainwashed. Time for us to get over the animosity and work to educate them to reality. We have the message they are looking for even if they don’t know it at this time. Wake them up don’t give up on them. More are getting the picture every day. Why isolate potential allies? The truth will set them free.
Exactly – the more we distance the America First movement from the corrupt GOPe, the better.
Everyone hates them.
Rusty, We are the Far Right, excluding the 5 % of racist and white supremest who are really part of the left. We used to be the middle 40 years ago, but the country has moved so far left the middle is now considered extreme
I am all for welcoming Democrats into our party (new party) but I think most Dems are to radicalized and have lost there reasoning abilities. At least the ones I know. We need to bring them back but I don’t know how. I know there are Dems that voted for Trump, not sure if they consider themselves Dems anymore.
GOP or the demonrats, they are the same thing.
Not me its Trumps party now. He can do what he wants the only way we can save the country is to get rid of the neocons. Our Party. They will be useless ir run as Democrats which most are
I think there’s definitely 2 schools of thought “should I stay or should I go”. It’s important though to be very clear. The Dems are in charge now. They have one party control thanks to Communists like McConnell and McCarthy. And they’re supposedly on our side. They only need the WH and 50 senators and they get everything passed, every confirmation locked. Don’t give the Fed GOP one cent, one vote, one click or one view. For your State go all in and support the good ones and try to knock out the bad ones. That will be the bulwark against Constitutional change, but federally, they have to expire. Aim should be to make 100 GOP House members lose and 20 GOP Senators.
Disagree. Have to act now. We do not have a few election cycles to dither around.
We start this November
Really? It’s already too late. Maybe you should look at your state’s Board of Election political calendar and see what we’re up against in the way of deadlines for filing.
Right now there are TWO CONGRESSIONAL SEATS up for grabs in Louisiana.
The vote will be March 22nd. The deadline for filing was January 22.
While we are here arguing about this magical third party, the elections are in progress.
Timing is EVERYTHING, Sparky. Only Trumo knows the whole plan. Our job is to pray and have patience until he tells us his plan. Do you KNOW why he esentially conceded?
Go sell Gnosticism elsewhere.
A few election cycles… C’mon man, you think we got that kind of time? Get in the game!
…the GOP will get no more $ from me. Period. I’m looking for other options.
….for example, (true but not good, imho)
…the (pretend americans brainwashed into socialism, communism, globalist, dividers
(in the mis-name of progress or unity)
left took over the democrat party, slowly, but surely
(even though some self-proclaimed conservative democrats are in denial, but loyal to dems (or whatever inequity, double standards, it unconstitutionally mis-represents)).
It was not easy for the left etc. to take over the dem party… (and they really are not as strong as the media mis-represents, but they know where to connect the amplifiers, how to spin, and how to rig…how to divide others and conquer… )
Dividing helps to make other people fall. (not good)
GOP,
Liz knows where her bread i$ buttered. (many politician$ do not advertise that to the public )
They might need some help, in that regard.
Some others need to work on their organization, efforts and realize that the truth sets us all free…and wiith fortitude and other virtues, a make over of the grand ol party is doable – by working together within the infrastructure.
But be wary of the wooden-nickels (of various forms).
Actions speak louder than words.
There is strength in numbers.
(re) United We Stand….
Love thy neighbors….
Stay with the perpetual losers Frank..we will get this done. Republicans are FOREVER anathema! Only a fool stays where he is not wanted. Sad so many so called Conservatives have no fight in them.
Yeah, because that plan has worked so well. It is called insanity.
Old fashioned thinking called insanity.
Over the next year or so, get your thinking up to snuff. It’s out-dated and a failed method.
80M can form a winning 3rd party! Why do Rs always think like losers?
Exactly. The people posting here the same split the party BS are acting like there is no-one else interested in a populist message.
There are more independents than democrats or republicans. There are more people that don’t engage in anything political that might engage with the right message and leader.
Why should we stay with the loser party?
Their is currently one party. Anti Trump, Anti American and Pro fraud. This is the short list.
Yet somehow we don’t need a 3rd party? The people who are the problem cannot see the problem and thus cannot fix it. As far as they are corned we are the problem..
We must unite. Those who can should vote for her primary opponent and if that doesn’t do it vote for her democrat opponent. Those of us who don’t live there should fund a primary opponent or the democrat running against her.
Damn the torpedoes. Full steam ahead!
The Constitutional Liberty Party! The Tree of Liberty as our symbol. Strict adherence to the Founding Documents is a must for any who would lead the Party. What if PDJT announced the formation of a new party and asked those who still believe in the American dream to join? It would be the biggest event since he and Melanie came down the escalator. Launch it and people will make history. It will dominate the headlines for weeks and recruitment will skyrocket. This can be done. If we quit contemplating our collective navels that is. Get it in gear Conservatives before we are history!
Am I the only one who thinks that force, as unpleasant as that may be, could be the only viable solution to terminate this corrupt government that not longer represents the American people?
3rd parties, salvaging the GOP & voting out the RINO’s all sound like long game strategies that may or may not be effective at bringing any meaningful change even 20 years from now.
The censorship of voices, ideas, and dissent will only continue to become more restrictive, tech giants will not stop developing and implementing methods to bathe us in propaganda wherever we go and our children occupying indoctrination camps learning how to live properly within the machine.
Who is confident that any political change can take place in this type of environment?
When do we start having conversations on how this comes to an end immediately with the citizens taking back control of our government and our lives?
Jonathan – the thought has crossed my mind that it eventually might be the only way but I, and many others, hope and pray not.
That possibility is so remote, because it doesn’t stand a chance against a heavily armed government. We can already take our kids out of school and shop else where.
Creating a new party would be a punch to their gut.
the sequence is important.
both ARE required.
the order and timing is of the most critical importance.
First the revolutionary action…with the bill of grievances.
then the new party can climb to power.
this is how it is done.
it must be both.
otherwise its an exercise in moving deck chairs and pleasant final epilogues that no one lives to remember.
cup your hands to your ears and close your eyes.
can you hear it?
I can..
Jonathan elections were won and lost before mass comunication. It was done neighbor to neighbor door to door. We have the numbers we just need to coalesce. Fair and free elections and America first are the flags we fly under. We win if we keep it that simple.
Completely different world from then vs now.
What is simpler than The Constitutional Liberty Party? The name describes the aim of the party. Liberty through strict adherence to the Constitution. The party platform was written over Two centuries ago. And it is still relevant! Can we please get this party started? Roll it out with great fanfare!Invite articulate speakers to opine on the merits of our founding documents and the current state of neo fascism in the Country and around the world. Book Toby Keith Lee Greenwood Hank Jr. and other Patriotic voices to liven things up. Candice Owens and others can rally many to the Conservative cause. Declare a 90 day sign up period and watch the people come running. A new Party is imperative. One that stands for The unifascists have us scheduled for oblivion..how about we turn the tables on them?
When the Government owns the voting machines we will never have a fair election! The other states will be corrupted as the 6 cheating states. They think NC was also manipulated. Paper ballots in person voting and hand count. Only way. Do you actually think the Mafia in DC is going to turn over power? Never, The barbed wire fences with 35,000 armed military troops to kill anyone who dared protest?
Colorado
Minnesota
Virginia
Etc.
Force? Against whom? Where and when does this action begin? Foolish precipitous action will see many innocents hurt. And in the end will lead to a disaster for this Country. Let’s make this a peaceful revolution if possible. People of most all political persuasions understand the concept of Liberty. Let’s educate them not use violence against them. Give them an alternative to the Neo Fascists.
Will never vote for a RINO “R” again. Just won’t do it. The trumpets are getting louder! Hoo rah Sundance!
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Brady took the NFL. Fck.em.
You know I am quite gleeful that Brady won…again. The Brady haters out there are having a very bad night…
Yeah – here in MA, where many worshipped Brady – he’s now called a Traitor.
I call him smart for getting out of this Dictatorship of a State.
Okay, I’ve read all comments, managed not to gag listening to Wallace. Why he even has a job is beyond me. It seems we all agree Liz Cheney is irrelevant. I have read that her strength is her ability to raise big bucks. Living in WY, very disappointed in her. Can she not see that the rally was hijacked? Blm and antifa arrested inside. The break in began before the President even finished his speech. The rally and march were peaceful concerned citizens. The President never advocated attacking the building or breaking in.
In any case, new party or old party, it seems to me we need to define some goals and objectives. Seems to me we need to:
Mike Lindell clearly showed foreign election interference. Why is our military not now involved? We should confront our representatives with this information.
6 – Destroy the GOP and start a new party.
The Republican Party destroyed itself . Leave the dying elephant behind. What do patriotic Americans have in common with slimy sewer rats who sell their Souls so cheaply and kiss the butts of those who despise them. Enough discussion on the details and finer points of a strategy forward. Form a new party and let’s secure this country for our kids and grandkids. JUST DO IT!
And Navarro before him, tho’ not as detailed..
What representatives? You mean like Liz Cheney?
Cheney raises the big bucks from Wall Street and the military contractors, not the people who vote for her. They are however requesting she pay back the money the Wyoming GOP has given her.
Soooo, if we all abandon the GOP, with its’ ready-made infrastructure,. where do we go? Building a new party will take several election cycles….years….and that’s time we don’t have.
Chad it is the GOPs infrastructure not ours they will crush us with it if they can. they will sacrifice themselves as they did this cycle and in 2018 to stop us it is their party, their club and they are not going to share.
Trump built his party himself there was NO help from the GOP he simply tried a really new tactic HONESTY. It will work again the masses once inspired do not need the rona romneys of the world to tell them how they did it. IDIOTS they did it with our votes, well they aint getting them anymore. So do you want a place where 80 million voters will go or do you think they will all stay in mitch’s corral?
Your right Trump will rebuild the party. He made 1 mistake he endorsed the wrong guy in Georgia for Governor
One mistake? He did a lot right and plenty wrong. He kept a lot of evil men in their jobs way too long. A movement can’t depend on one human being.
In case you haven’t figured it out, the military is in on it; they are globalist butt boys.
30 year retired military here….I am NOT in on it ….the majority of us ARE NOT!
Heard this for a generation. As a battered spouse I no longer agree with this.
Well, that ready made infrastructure just got through screwing us.
We need to starve the beast to kill it off. Why try to save the sinking ship GOP titanic?
Let them destroy the party. It will make starting the new one that much easier.
OPERATION WARP SPEED? 74 million people working as a team can accomplish a lot quickly?
That “ready-made infrastructure” is rigged for them; and against us? Building a new “infrastructure” will be less work than fighting them on their own territory? They will fight hard to keep us out.
Focus on taking one section of the triad….congress…and work from there. No choice at this point..
And Rome burned while those who could have put the fire out dithered. Sorry Chad but the repugs ABANDONED us. We have time to turn this Country around but we don’t have the time to waste on conjectures or speculation about how long this will take or how difficult it will be to pull off. With all due respect..Conservatives need to get their ass in gear. Now.
Lizzy’s hatred of Trump runs deep within her, and it didn’t start on January 6th.
I do find her belief in following The Constitution that she bases her disdain for Trump on somewhat confusing. She states unequivocally that there was no election fraud. However, she finds no problem with the states that unconstitutionally changed their election laws that allowed fraud.
Does Wyoming have Dominion voting machines? If so, her next election is already a done deal.
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”–Abraham Lincoln
President Trump PROVED that he was someone elevated to the seat of power, that would use that POWER wisely and well…. unfortunately, the evil entrenched in DC….
Lincoln was a tyrant. One of the original sewer rats who was owned by the Oligarchs of his day. He was a weak and duplicitous tool of TPTB. He started the Unpleasantness that bedevils the Republic to this day. He ain’t no hero to anyone who has taken the time to uncover the true story of what tore this Country apart. It was the fat cats of the day that took us down that dark and tragic path. Just like they are doing now.
Thank you for listening to her and reporting back so that I don’t have to.
I’m one that keeps my blood pressure under better control by not actually listening to the RHINOS, DECEPTICONS, AND DEMONICS but by reading what has been said.
Like Sundance has pointed out numerous times, “they pretend not to know things”. This is the explanation for what confuses you.
She hates him for telling the truth about Iraq and the GOP war machine that her daddy was in charge of.
And that they totally screwed up the middle east and have had our military engaged there for over a generation now.
Liz is her generations Hillary. Death is her soulmate. As it was her despicable fathers. They willing send Patriots sons and daughters to their deaths for fun and profit. No lower life form exists. These lovers of death should never control the reigns of power. They can’t be trusted.
Rino like her and CCP McConnell i Refuse to support Republican anymore,i won’t,
i will always support MAGA,
We don’t have time for a new party
2028 would be the first election that it would be established enough to even compete.
In that time we won’t even have a country left!
We need to attack ELECTION FRAUD
Full bore
Lazer focused
That is the hill we need to die for.
Without fair elections
Anything else is hitting on the pipe or bottle.
Fraud happens because the GOP allows it to happen. A new party could change that.
What will be left of the country in 2028 when it becomes viable enough to even compete?
We can’t afford the wait.
That is the tactic of the GOP. They have been doing it for a generation, no more sale here.
How do you propose to stop election fraud when the only ones with standing to challenge it are the GOP, and they won’t do it?
What makes you think it will take so long? 80 million pissed off voters and more getting on board everyday.
So tell me again exactly how that works.
Please explain just how we go about starting this new party in all 5o states and then get candidates on the ballots so that all these pissed off voters can actually vote.
What will be left of our country in 2028 if we go along with the party that just facilitated the stealing of the presidency from their own candidate?
The party deserves to die for what they just did to their voters. The GOP is not viable now or in the future for America First voters.
They are calling us terrorists, and you want us to stay on their team?
Never.
People who think for themselves don’t like being continually lied to. It rubs them the wrong way for some reason. I for one hate being lied to by politicians and I suspect I’m not alone in that sentiment. We can’t afford to stay with those who use and abuse us for fun and $$$$! Move on from this abusive relationship while it’s still possible.
Agree. Patriot party for me. Grammy
Right
This sounds like the democrat arguments against Anwar. It will take too long to develop, we can’t wait that long. Sorry, SSDD. If McConnell and Cheney are leaders in it, burn it down and rebuild it.
People were making the same arguments in 2009. We tried it their way and it didn’t work.
Did you happen to notice all the GOP Members standing up and demanding the Election be Audited?
Forget it.
I’ve been hearing that story about splitting the vote for 20 years.
It needs splitting. Half are like Liz, and we don’t need those.
Oldjunkfixer, have you missed out on the news that the whole of the media, plus the whole of the Democrat population Plus the owners of social media are looking at you, putting their finigers in their ears and going “LaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLa. ELECTION FRAUD did NOT happen, as far as they are concerned, and they are so adamant about it, they are censoring anyone who suggests there was election Fraud. Mike Lindell and his family and his business have been RUINED, because he dared to promote the idea that Election Fraud happened. Remember, to Biden, Antifa is an “IDEA:, and to all Democrats, Election Fraud is just an idea perpetrated by bitter Trump Supporters. Poor losers, those Trump supporters! Go ahead, attack Election Fraud. How would you suggest we do that?
How did Lindell ruin his buisness??
It’s up 5x’s since Jan
I think Mr Lindell is getting a excellent return on investment despite all the hate.
We need to use the same tactics that are used against us.
Start locally
Make noise
People need to get out and involved instead of whining.
We need
Organization
People willing to get thier hands dirty in thier own backyard.
Right now it’s like a herd of cats
We need to be focused
And have our own plans
Laid out to follow.
We really have a void of leadership right now.
I think Trump is too busy trying to save his own hide right now.
You hit the nail on the biggest problem
I honestly think a Media platform is badly needed the most
More then any 3rd party
The reason why our asses got kicked so bad is because they control the message.
If someone honestly called balls and strikes
It would of never happened in the first place.
Getting the message heard to the herd is the biggest obstacle.
I think Trump sort of thinks the same way.
He backed away from 3rd party and rumors are he is thinking of starting a media company.
I feel a media outlet is number 1 before any party.
Look at what we have now
Some obscure network that most people have never heard of
Or blogs and websites that most people are unaware about.
When they get mentioned they dont have any reputation or credibility beyond the core audience of us.
That will never reach the average sheep.
Election fraud IS job one to be sure and must be addressed post haste. Feel free to die on the hill of your choice but please don’t include me in your plans ok? The Republic does have time for a “New” party in fact it Demands it. I’m old too Junk Fixer and may not see the return of The Republic but I will never align with those who are so willing to go along to get along and compromise with evil. What little honor and respect they retain is fading fast.Which ain’t much! The Constitutional Liberty Party sounds like a winner to me.
With respect, Sundance, I believe your logic is incomplete. You know Ds and Rs are a UniParty, yet you speak of another party as a would-be third party. It would be a second party. Cheney is showing that there is at the moment only one party, the one party you yourself have identified now for many years, and rightly so.
SCOTUS demonstrated the same fact of D-R UniParty, as do the heads and sub-heads of Executive Branch agencies. USA has been under one-party
governancerule for two decades at least, save four years when POTUS Trump was in office instead of, as now, in exile. I do not understand why you do not understand this, that another party would be a second party, not a third party. It begs to me as such simple logic.Related: a few days ago you wrote of POTUS Trump losing the 2020 election for POTUS. But he did not lose it, he won it. Again, I do not understand why you do not understand that and stick by saying the truth. Is your strength to bind your consciousness to the truth so weak? I want not to believe that it is.
My friend, it is time to think to solutions, look for opportunities. We do not need more redundant rehearsal of problems. We know what they are. Rehearsing them now is outrage porn. For example: we need a generation or five of children reared and wanting to have good character. To make that happen, mothers and fathers — especially mothers — must, among other things, revere the homeschool and respect the five professional guilds: Theology, Medicine, Military Arts, Law, Pedagogy.
You keep comms open. This is a wonderful service. I urge their use for adducing solutions, not repeating known problems.
can we just get peopel that will speak up in public? that would be a good start
I will remind you that the most powerful element of any paradigm change in the history of men, came from the unsalted raw truth of intellectual giants.
I recommend that you show a bit more respect while you cast negative reviews towards THE ONLY MAN ON PLANET EARTH AT THE MOMENT WHO HAS THE INTEGRITY<THE INTELLIGENCE AND THE HUGE MASSIVE BALLS TO INVESTIGATE, ANALYZE AND PRODUCE MATERIAL FACTS ABOUT THE MOST TROUBLING NEFARIOUS CORRUPTION TO EVER BE REVEALED.
And that he does this…BECAUSE HE CARES SO DEEPLY FOR HIS FELLOW MEN AND WOMEN.
So while you start splitting hairs and making annoying attempts to prognosticate your own opinion, I recommend you dial it down, sit down, refrain from making negative remarks, These help no one!
Sundance is here to tell you in terms that include zero varnish what is going on and who the enemy is and why it matters that you recognize the threat.
NONE OF US ARE FIT to cross examine and insult his work,
Let me be clear, we all understand exactly what sundance means by third party. We also understand clearly what sundance means by "losing".
I suggest that you might be new around here. Please take this opportunity to realize who you are talking about….
Sundance has EARNED the highest honor for doing a life work that is in my opinion the most important investigative journalism of our time.
and you want to complain about your lack of interpreting what he means?
check yourself. We all come here to get solid information.
When in doubt, we give sundance the benefit of ANY DOUBTS.
I AM CERTAIN HE HAS EARNED IT!
With respect Rev. perhaps you should start your own blog. It seems like you’ve got all the answers. Thanks for setting us straight on what Sundance doesn’t understand. It may be true that things get repeated here from time to time but many new folks to the Treehouse are finding hope and inspiration here. Lighten up and maybe save the sermons for the pulpit.
A generation from now we will either be speaking Mandarin or the Uniparty will cease to exist. Sorry, but that includes the GOP.
The establishment needs to lose. Everything.
A Fantastic new article
The Thirty Tyrants
The deal that the American elite chose to make with China has a precedent in the history of Athens and Sparta
by Lee Smith
Brilliant.
Best article I’ve ever read.
This is such an important essay – stunning in its clarity – is there a mainstream outlet that would show it? I feel breathless after reading that.
Thank you!!I highly recommend this article—wow!
This article explains it all. You want to f*ck the scumbag American elite? Go after China. They’ll scream racism but just keep going after China & their rice krispie d*ck leader President Xi.
An organized campaign against China will totally unnerve the Michael Bloombergs, Bushes, Obamas, Clintons, bourbon generals, Wall Street. All of them.
Someone convince former President Trump of this fact. Those he trusts most have convinced him that there is no other path forward but through reforming the GOP, by primarying all the bad little GOP-e boys and girls who supported the Democrats Coup d’etat last November-January. Those he trusts, who recommended all those Federal judges and Supreme Court justices who (surprise!! surprise!!) turned out supporting the US Constitution destroyers in the communist Democrat party.
So, we who supported Trump, many of us military veterans, are now officially labeled “domestic terrorists” by the traitorous and partisan Democrat DOJ/FBI. The new SECDEF has **literally** appointed political commissars to comb the ranks for any conservative military soldier, sailor, or airman, in order to be able to identify, and force them out by UCMJ or illegal means.
Well, I’ll do my part. I will vote for any primary opponent of my Idaho Senators and Congressman. Failing that, should they survive the primary, I will vote for ANYONE who can win, and remove them from office, including the communist Democrats.
The lying and traitorous GOP MUST DIE before *** CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM *** in America can survive, and thrive. Anyone who claims “… you’ll just hand over power to the Democrats …” by not voting party line GOP has missed the past three months. The only way the communists were able to unlawfully steal and election, and sign 43 unconstitutional executive orders in the first week of Biden’s regime, 5x any other US President, is that the GOP enabled the event. The GOP as a party could have stopped it, exposed the Democrat’s sedition, but our GOP “representatives” though first about their stash, all their perks, their power, before they considered the “Amerika” they have condemned us to suffer in, going forward.
If the Democrats win the next election cycle, the next two, or next dozen, voting for the GOP one more time, just keeps the Democrats ruling that much longer. It’s got to end now. The GOP must die, and this 40+year GOP voter, former central committee member, and Christian conservative, will do everything God gives me the strength to do, to make that happen. No forgiveness. No second chances. The GOP pols just killed the party.
Agree with you OldSaltUSNR. Always enjoyed your previous posts. Please “post again.”
The GOP that he thinks we should try to save is the same GOP that stabbed him in the back for 4 years. And stabbed the Tea Party in the back before that.
I love the trumpster, but if he expects me to keep the party of Cheney/McConnell in power, he is mistaken.
The Tea Party existed pre PDJT. He took its principles and We the People were victorious due to his efforts. So let’s build on what he has accomplished and move on. New and bold leadership must be identified and promoted. It PDJT wants to join us great but it’s time to move on. Past time. That’s reality folks
so, now all my posts are sidlelined, “waiting for approval”.
That’s fine, it’s Sundance’s website, but I won’t post again. Bye.
Old Salt….it’s a problem we’ve been having since yesterday afternoon. The engineers for our new site appear to be working on the comment monitoring system. Many others are experiencing delays as well as you. For this, I can only apologize. 🙁
again, ad rem, it must be stated publicly, what you are your team have been doing has been exceptional in every single way.
I appreciate it, even if I can’t know what is involved in making this work…But I can imagine what that might entail and for that I salute your talenrs and those of your team to make this site very smooth,…even when things get slippy.
I wish you the very best and pray for you and your team daily. I know you care and I really appreciate this.
I am sure my sentiments are shared by many!
Thank you so very much! It gets tiresome apologizing for things completely out of our control. ?
Bye then. You can’t wait for a resolution.
Don’t be so hasty Danny to throw an Old Salt overboard. Many an Old Salt can still teach some of us a thing or two.
All of mine are, as well. It’s not CTH.
Back on deck old salt! Your watch ain’t over yet. There is a glitch in the system. No one is mad at you. Many feel the same way as you do. Your insights are of great value. Don’t sweat the red flags. Your aim is still true.
MAGA has a huge following in Texas and Florida (see 2016 and 2020) and many of these voters would never vote for a traditional capital-R Republican. Trump changed all that.
In a way, MAGA already is a third party.
Exactly – that is why any of these “we would only split the party” negative comments don’t make any sense.
The MAGA movement would jump-start any new party to instant success. Since there is really only one uniparty, many people are looking for a viable alternative to the old corrupt swampy political parties (the uniparty).
Plus, the populist movement (independent from PDJT) is growing everywhere, as people’s eyes are being opened to the corporate elites ownership of all things political on both the D and R side.
People want politician to represent them, not the corporations that pay them off.
You can’t take over the GOP from the bottom up.
Their very first priority is Self-Preservation. They have been at it forever, and they are extremely good at it.
Notice Liz isn’t even batting an eyelash.
That’s because she’s a Rino Borg
What is it that makes it such a long and arduous task to start a new party? Just the fact that Cheney got in again tells you first, the machines were used for voting (unlikely), or there are more Rino’s than we thought, or that someone has paid to play, which is as common as rain. HOWEVER , I do think we ought to wait to hear from President Trump or Don Jr.. before doing anything at all.
She is using the same tactics as her father. He used to just declare that he was the boss and that the way he said things were going to be was that way things were going to be. Period.
Her father was the VP to a puppet president. He had to worry about his own cardiac status, but he did not have to worry about being voted out on his own merit.
Nice try, Liz. Your constituents and the Wyoming GOP want you gone. You will be pulled out by the grassroots.
It seems to me that if a 3rd party is created, the majority of the former 2nd party will vote for the 3rd party. Therefore, that defunct, obsolete 2nd party will be the equivalent of what a 3rd party typical following would be.
A step further, if any “moderate” dems still exist, they might find the GOPe palatable and thus, the Dems will be split.
No matter how its sliced, the GOPe is the minority. We must ensure that it is.
Perfect summation of how it would go down. They are pariahs to everyone except for their friends in the bubble and their corporate donors.
I couldn’t agree more, Sundance! And this was the exact example this past week that led me to the same conclusion. I won’t vote for another Republican ever again unless their last name is Trump. The Republicans are at opposition with what I believe (and democrats would never be an option… they are unAmerican). I will be changing my party affiliation at the earliest time I’m able. I loathe the GOP.
Do not lose sight of the fact that the GOPe politically fears Trump supporters. As insufferable as this interview was, notice that the vote on whether to replace Cheney as leader of the Republican conference was done by secret ballot. This vote failed, but the election that really matters is the Republican primary in 2022 when Wyoming voters can nominate someone else.
And there is no reason why this can’t work with the rest of the GOPe as well. I don’t really care whether the GOPe likes us or not. Trump supporters have the political power to bend the Republican Party to our will if there is strong leadership and organization to counter the GOPe.
Whether there is a new party or not, a huge battle with the GOPe is looming. It seems like it might be easier to fight from within rather than to rebuild all that structure from scratch (e.g. automatic placement on ballots). It is such a large hill to climb to get equal footing with the two major parties that a better path might be to simply defeat GOPe.
Primary is hopium. As in Alaska, Virginia et al, a victory is Phyrric. Destroy the Fed GOP. If Schumer doesn’t need McConnell’s votes, then he’s useless, irrelevant. If there’s only 100 House GOP members after 2022, then Dems have Supermajority and House GOP irrelevant. That should be the goal. At a State level, a strong performance by GOP retaining State Houses shows explicitly the stark difference between a CCP owned GOP and Grass roots GOP.
We will gut GOPe!
Our President must come back as an Independent so he will have absolutely no ties to anyone in the RINO party.
That is the Democrats dream.
Democrats nightmare is a party that represents the American people.
PDJT will not return as a political candidate. He will be 78 in 2024. He is and will remain the Elder Statesman of the Conservative movement but to expect him to run again is delusional. New bold leadership is waiting to be promoted. They just need to be recognized and backed. A new party is viable but if we wait much longer tremendous momentum will be lost. Just do it make the break… it will liberate millions!
Cheney and most Republican politicians and party hacks conspired with Democrats to steal this election from you. They are just as guilty as Pelosi or Obama.
They hate the idea of the government being run for the benefit of everyday Americans so much that they helped the criminal usurper Biden get installed. That means China gets every secret it wants. That means Iran gets nukes. That means our borders are dissolved. That means unlimited abortions and small children taught race hate and perversion.
That’s how much Republican politicians hate you and your freedom.
And that’s why, as an institution, the GOP must die.
Term limits – 2 terms in each position – would help a lot. Like the president.
The staffers would be the bosses.
I’v seen ‘term limits’ advocated for twenty years. Congress would never pass a term limits bill.
New party, don’t tell us Sundance tell Trump.
he’s the one that doesn’t get it.
You have it backwards.
Pretty sure he’s just hanging with the GOP so that they don’t convict him in their show trial.
Fully agree.
It is time for a new party. The gop is rino and rotted to its core. It is not going to be reformed.
A new/3rd party would be jump started w tens of millions of voters energy and enthusiasm. Not easy but its come to this.
Else you can vote for nikki haley and ben sasse in 2024. Ill take my chances w a new approach.
To stupid for words!
Goodbye
You can’t take over the Washington Generals and turn them into a winning team. There’s no actual talent there. All they know how to do is lose.
That’s what they are good at. They love it. They could have learned ow to win from PDJT, but they love to lose too much.
Sir Authur Harris quote:”They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind”.He was in charge of British bomber command WW2.This statement comes to my mind at this time.MAGA!
“Cannot Ever Happen Again” > My Pillow Guy Releases Second Election Fraud Video on his website, repost on BitChute dot com
(RINOs love vote rigging machines)
Sundance, how long have you been a member of your local county GOP and attended its monthly meetings? Or better yet, have you ever been a GOP executive committee member of your local county GOP for any length of time, as I have?
Believe me, when I tell you, Wyoming’s GOP representative Liz Cheney’s days are number, and she knows it. The only thing that can save her is if all the grassroot Republicans in her House district leave the party and are not around to vote her out during the GOP primary, which was the object of her interview with Chris Wallace.
The Republican establishment would like nothing better than to chase all their grassroot members who are Trump supporters out of the party and leave the primaries to themselves. As you have correctly pointed out, there is no GOP or DNC; they are all members of the Uniparty. We can stand against the Uniparty if we can take over the Republican party and let the RINOs go over to the Uniparty. In this manner, we will have a fighting chance at defeating the only other major political party, the Uniparty.
What we should do is swell the ranks of the GOP at every local level. Get you Democrat Trump supporters and your Independents Trump supporters to change their party affiliations to Republican, if only for the 2022 primary. Let’s chase the Liz Cheneys out of the party instead, rather than being chased out ourselves and having to face the combined financial might of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, and the Uniparty during the next primary season.
Can she be recalled in Wyoming? Two years is a long time for her greasy paws.
Thanks for a perceptive and well thought out post.
Sorry, at least 40 years too late. Do you think you’ll pull off a miracle, send the GOP into its rightful and long overdue oblivion, and the Deep State Red-Blue Party will give you an honest vote tally NEXT TIME? Why, exactly? Because next time you’ll insist on it? Not gonna happen. This was America’s Waterloo, and another political party isn’t going to help. Not anymore — elections can’t rescue us now. That ship has just sailed.
thats what the new party is for. NOT TO VOTE =]
Thanks for your input. It’s always good to hear what those with no fight left in them think. It gives those with the Will to Win the courage to fight on to victory in spite of cowards in their ranks. Nothing ventured Nothing gained. I ain’t givin up yet. But thanks for the heads up on your position.
I’m gonna say it.
Its way past time to go Auntie Maxine on ALL of them.
Show up when they make appearances
If you see them anywhere in public get in thier faces and scream to them that thier lawless behavior in Government is unacceptable and not wanted in your neighborhood
make them uncomfortable wherever you encounter them.
Scream profanities at them
Be rude
Ridicule
Tell them what you really think.
Until they start to feel firsthand pushback from every direction
They are gonna just keep bending us over.
That’s the spirit. Give them a dose on their own medicine and watch them choke on it.
I am all for a 3rd party. They will infiltrate it from the word go. This is war.
Listen. Understand. That Terminator is out there. It can’t be reasoned with, it can’t be bargained with…it doesn’t feel pity of remorse or fear…and it absolutely will not stop.Ever. Until you are dead.
I agree 100%.We must stop putting up with the abuse from the GOP.We must leave the GOP and start a new party that has our values and will not back down.We must think long term and set realistic goals of taking back every inch of our country we can every day.We must stop supporting anything that benefits the other side.
The Constitutional Liberty Party has a nice sound to it. The Tree of Liberty would make a powerful symbol. You know that old blood of tyrants and Patriots thing folks keep referencing. A Powerful appeal that old tree has. Maybe that’s why Sundance chose The Tree House as a symbol. Maybe
“Stop being a battered conservative” Agree! It’s very similar to the well known, Battered wife/woman syndrome.There are four stages that women who develop battered woman syndrome typically go through:
Some women in abusive relationships never make it past the first 2 or 3 stages, as domestic violence can be fatal.
or 5. Ditch the victim mentality. Change the locks. Keep the assets. Put cardboard boxes of their self-congratulatory photos and awards beside the driveway. Get on with life.
May I suggest a 5th stage to recovery from this particular abusive relationship. Burn the Republican Party to the ground and salt the earth on which it grovels. Put an end to this hideously demeaning arrangement of convenience. They hate you as much as the Democrats do. Maybe more because you make them look bad. Leave repugs in the dust of history. They have earned nothing but our scorn and constant ridicule. Start a New party and even some Dems will will join. We are the future. The repugs are so 20th century. I won’t be fooled again by these toothless mastodons.
Nigel Farage made a lot of ground in two short years, and more on the way.
Totally agree. Gope is a waste. Sure the rigged voting agreement allows certain gope candidates like this gal to win. We’ll never be able to vote any of them out now unless a new party, that really pushes against the rigged vote, comes into being–
Let the dust settle, it will all change. third party will be inevitable because both parties will be gutted. Actually, it’s one party being destroyed anyway.
That fence is real. They, are the ones behind the sandbags not trump. Wait and see.
I want to point some things out. One, Brady won again. American lovin, trumpster. The players were saying it’s rigged, hmm I’d say it was.
Two, the military will ‘stand down’ ? ?Anyone believe that? For a month?
Last but not least. “look for a rainbow” rainbows come in spring. Rain comes in spring, ‘April showers bring may flowers’? That was a prediction for victory.
This is a coup, never was about an election, please understand that critical point. Trump won, dotted the eyes crossed the ‘t’s. The coup was premeditated and all involved are daily coming forward to confess. In the form of bragging and gloating. Time is irrelevant in this case, as far as election results or any formality because, it’s a coup, not an election. Focus on that not the election. This is enormous, bigger than people can see.
#DUMPGOP #PATRIOTPARTYNOW
Patriot is a noble word. But should it be used in the name of a political party? It seems to me that to the Beast System it screams THREAT. It will focus their wrath on us. How about a name that includes the word Constitution in it. Or maybe Liberty or other more universal terms that might appeal to freedom loving Americans from all backgrounds. We are all in this boat together. Except for the Commies..over the side with them they can swim for it.
I’m fairly certain we could have a strong 3rd party, but we will never win elections again unless the systemic fraud is rooted out, and free, fair, and honest elections are restored. The unprincipled, power hungry Democrats, in collusion with Big Tech, rich oligarchs, the deep state, and China – and with the protection, propaganda, fake news, and censorship of the MSM – will continue to manipulate the results no matter which party backs conservative candidates. We may as well be Venezuela.
When do we get to have a national strike or a tax revolt?
Maybe we all need to go Galt.
The GOP will NEVER boot Liz.
Never.
But, Marjorie Taylor Greene… you saw it.