Wyoming GOP representative Liz Cheney, a Decepticon of the highest tier, appears smugly on Fox News for an interview. As much as the interview itself is insufferable in its disconnect many people need to watch and accept.
Cheney ramps-up the attacks against President Trump and his supporters. Keep in mind that Trump holds more than 85% approval within the party, yet Cheney and the Decepticons just don’t care; they hate anyone who does not facilitate their power demand. They hate you.
They hate us.
Additionally, two-thirds of the republican house conference voted to keep Cheney in her position. There is no way to reconcile the disconnect between what the elected GOP are doing against the will of the majority unless you accept they just don’t care. Trumpet!
Chris Wallace, a gatekeeper for all things swamp, was gleeful to provide Cheney with the opportunity to attack Trump supporters. The interview is telling on many fronts, but how many republicans will finally accept their status? The GOP doesn’t care what you think about them… they are the second wing of the UniParty vulture.
Stop being a battered conservative and start accepting that two-thirds of the republican party do not want you in the room. Remind yourself of this example when the insufferable apologists try to tell you a third party is not needed. The republican party must be destroyed or we will continue the cycle of abuse.
Here’s the full interview:
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Bring on the battle…. The GOPe must be destroyed !
Republicans who continue to support the GOP by voting for republicans and/or holding their noses and voting for rinos like romney, collins, kingzinger, murkowski (and the other 90%) are as bad as democrats who don’t walk away from the dem plantations. STOP supporting the GOP. This is the best way forward.
The Democrats agree with you and hope for a vote splitting MAGA party so they can takeover permanently.
Unless you are stupid, you would know that there is absolutely no difference between democrats and GOPe. They are all against us, the people. So we might as well let Dems win it all. No difference. Then after GOPe is completely destroyed and American people have woken up, we have a chance at a different people’s party.
We know and understand exactly what the situation is. Sundance is wrong on this issue. Socialism would be guaranteed and the numbers prove it.
What numbers are those? Please share!
You’re a Complete Moron !
You are know better than a dem…They also call people names that have a different opinion.
To slander a Conservative as being no better than a dem Is fighting words son! Swords or Pistols? I’ll be your willing second Snail Mail. We meet in the clearing at dawn little Ben. Be there.
A mans gotta call em like he see em! Snail Mail Trucker you is on on time and on point!
When the GOP had both houses of Congress and President Trump, did they repeal the Affordable Care Act? No.
When the GOP had both houses of Congress and President Trump, did they abolish the Department of Education? No.
When the GOP had both houses of Congress and President Trump, did they fund construction of the border wall and fund proper enforcement? No.
Nope. The RHINOS were too busy protecting “the honorable Mueller”(Lindsey Graham), supposedly believing the Russian Collusion ridiculousness, and joining their “friends across the aisle” in the resistance to all things Trump.
Yes they were. Yes they did.
Regardless….half just aren’t going to vote R again no matter how much coaxing and pleading is done. Besides, a third party would also bring in angry centrist Ds who are just as unhappy as Rs. It would not be a shoe in for anyone.
Also, the majority of voters are not registered with any party. Many of them vot ed for Pres. Trump and would consider voting for other maga candidates.
If the only thing standing between us and socialism is Liz Cheney, I’ll resign myself to socialism. She’s not trying to stop the descent into madness. She’s just trying to profit off of it.
You could say the same about many politicians, i suspect. Why else would you give up family life and sit through 15 hour discussions like they did last night for only $174K a year? There’s alot of ways they can and have gone for profit. Mad Max lives in a .
I’m not sure why we’re having this discussion since we know the RINO group keeps gorwing to the exrent that they’ve neutered the rest of us. The good ones left will join MAGA.
We already have socialism. We got it by voting for Republicans, just as much as the cheating by Democrats.
Ah, the righteous boomers ! They’ll always support the cuck GOP.
Never vote GOP again. Let it die.
You don’t know what you are talking about. Did you ever see the acist-terrorist-astroturf aka the tea party? Those are the boomers you are dismissing. A lot of them are now boomers or getting close.
They are a big part of why Trump won.
Donnymo..You probably would not exist it it weren’t for a couple of boomers. Your understanding and knowledge of history seems limited. Boomers built your world and most of what they built was spectacular. Don’t lump us all together with the vandals who corrupted what good Americans took a lifetime to build. What do you think those that follow your generation will call you? What contribution have you made to build a better future for the next generation?
For the past 2 weeks, the GOP Senate has barely resisted at all in confirming Biden’s Cabinet Appointments at all and some of these appointments are arguably national security risks due to their big ties with China.
The Communists are already in government and both the Democrat and Republican Senators welcomed them right in.
It makes me sick particularly when you compare all the trouble President Trump had to go through to get his nominations through the Senate.
I just read recently, wish I could remember where, (I read so much it can sometimes be a “bad” thing in that I often do not remember where I’ve read something and so then can’t provide links, etc.) that a lot of the people President Trump ended up with – even initially – were not his original picks due to all the nonsense in getting his confirmations through.
And then we watch JoeBama’s train wreck picks sail through. I’m not surprised in the least and it is exactly what I expected.
Good point..
Exactly
Scott Allen do you really know and understand what the situation is? How is Socialism guaranteed by folks who are passionate about Freedom and not getting screwed any more and want to create a political party that reflect their deeply felt beliefs? No Scott Allen..Sundance and others who have thought long and hard about the ramifications involved in starting a new party that can WIN are right. They unifascists have left us no other course of action. Get on board this boat is fixin to sail on to freedom!
Socialism is here. Brought to us by the GOP.
I actually think that an America First party would be competitive with the left very soon. The only reason they win is because they cheat.
And the RINO republican party would be very small after all of the America First people leave.
Last thing the democrats want is a new party.
They run the uniparty and the rino gop is a reliable punching bag.
Look for haley and sasse in 2024. They wont allow for another Donald Trump.
The Uniparty has been in charge for quite a while now. If there are no dramatic changes made the current status will become permanent anyway. It seems that the GOP are themselves, now demonstrating that they are beyond salvaging
In case you haven’t noticed, the dems have already taken over the spineless republicans.
Where have you been these last four years? We gave them the House, Senate and Presidency and the Democrats were still in charge,
Yy4u, that was the Big Tell. The democrats run things regardless of who has the majority.
Oh but Mitch got conservative judges people say. It appears Conservative in the vein of Roberts.
@peace: Until they totally fix the voting machines it won’t ever matter. They stole the election. So why would anyone ever vote again?
You are a dimmocrat.
I am MAGA but you sound like an intolerant person that is too immature to tolerate different points of view.
EXACTLY.
Agreed. An interescene war within the Republican Party is all the Democrats and the anti Trump arm of the GOP need for one party rule for a generation or more. It is their most vivid wet dream. Actually, the anti-Trumpers would prefer to be in the minority. Being the majority means having to rule and that wastes energy better spent jockeying for position at the public trough. They are happy to let the Republic, already in its death throws, pass into totalitarianism. They just want it to happen quietly. Half the country is already on board. If it just wasn’t for the other half, dammit! IMHO, Cheney and her ilk recognize this, and sensing our fear are cynically offering us a Hobson’s Choice: Continue on as in the pre-Trump days and we will continue to be feckless in slowing down the changes so that they don’t happen overnight. Of course, your down payment on the deal is your vote, you freedom of speech and a few other liberties you rubes think are unalienable. Tell that to the stolen election, and the 5,000+ armed troops guarding that new wall around the capitol that you paid for. Thank you!
No, not a bit cynical!
You already got it.
You are frozen!!!!!!
No fight or flight you are frozen.
Take a stand for what’s right.
lot of democrats voted for trump. a new party will explode in numbers.
You still labor under the illusion that the Democrats are a separate party from the GOP.
The two are one.
This is what we all must grasp before there can be progress.
Agreed.
A bit short sighted and needlessly negative if you don’t mind me saying. Dems can indulge in whatever twisted fantasy they chose. Some on our side may ponder their methods and vain imaginings but others Will press on and think on what can be accomplished with the assets and momentum that we the people still possess. Some will act despite the naysayers and they may well triumph. I’m with them. To hell with what the Democrats think say or do!
Saw this unattributed quote today, and it fits:
“There is no coexisting with those that want to destroy us from within.”
I agree that a true second party would finally give Patriots a real choice.
The question if MAGA Reps that win via the GOPe primary are different than those that win via the MAGA party if both are funded from the same pro-MAGA source?
Victory not Vengeance should be our objective at all times.
“…then shall those that ye let remain of them be as thorns in your eyes, and as pricks in your sides, and they shall harass you in the land wherein you dwell” – Numbers 33:55
Right…
Let’s just do the very smart thing… and give total control over the entire US Govt… and most state governments to the most dangerous, mentally psychotic, dishonest cheating, violent fascist/marxist “democratic” party to ever exist in the history of the United States.
Let’s punish the loser Rs by giving dangerous, Dem/fascists EXCLUSIVE dictatorial control over the fate of the Republic… for a minimum of 6 years and likely a decade.
IF we do that– which is exactly what the Dems want us to do— there will be no semblance of the Constitution remaining at the end of those 6 or 10 years.
In fact, with unbridled control over the US & most/all State Governments … the Dem/fascist Party… will have enough STATE votes to dramatically amend/change the US Constitution itself into a meaningless document that protects none of the rights we currently enjoy.
The Govt is corrupt. Its not obeying the Constitution but the Constitution itself is still in full force and effect. Its just not being… enforced.
The dem/fascist/globalists — w/total power– COULD make our US Constitution subordinate to some global central govt Constitution, couldn’t they?
They could delete our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, delete freedom of religion or clarify it… and clarify our right to freedom of speech, assembly, search & seizure, replace the Electoral college w/a pure democracy vote/election.
There are so many changes that could be made to the US Constitution IF Dems had unbridled control to do anything they want for maybe a decade.
But we SURE will punish and destroy those loser Republicans we hate so much, right? We sure showed them!!
Why are so many unwilling to hear what the leader of the Republican Party, Donald J. Trump, has to say?
IF Trump says we can replace the R party w/a 3rd party… in some miraculous way, I will follow his lead. I trust him… bc HIS PRIMARY goal will be to SAVE the Republic. I don’t care if its with the R party (that we take control over) OR if its a 3rd party. I JUST want to SAVE America, our freedom, our Constitution… and we don’t have a lot of time to get our act together.
I do NOT hate the Republican party more than I love America. I am ASHAMED of who they have become and believe WE need to TAKE back control of OUR party… that has been performing badly for quite some time.
The Tea Party was a fraction of the size that the Trump America 1st Movement IS now.
Lets wait to hear what President Trump says.
The reality is this: we do not have a two party system. Scammers who want a cushy job, who have no talent, are uneducated in the workings of the world, have NO interest in their constituents, pick a district to run for and declare themselves a Democrat or Republican based on the color of that district. They get elected, get bought by lobbyists, do the ultimate in “insider trading” making millions of dollars.
THAT is the SWAMP. Probably less than 50 people in Congress who are working for We The People.
I totally AGREE. Actually, this was my feeling in the last six months of The Donald’s presidency, when they did nothing to help him or us. But seeing how most of them abandoned him (and us) and then worse, piled on at the end. Unforgiveable. Sorry. I have been so disgusted by them, after seeing the brave few, Sen. Hawley, Sen. Gaetz, even Rand Paul. And who helped, very few. I’m going to contact my state GOP, and let them know we are going to the town hall and changing our affiliation. GOP no more. This debacle with Cheney was the last straw. Even if it comes down to voting RINOS or Democrats, I’ll vote for Democrats. Why? I resent them less than I do RINOS, and I’d rather see it go to Democrats (yes, I know) than to traitorous RINOS. Now, it’s personal.
I changed my affiliation the day The Fraud was sworn in, it took 5 minutes on the NC DMV site.
I like Sen Paul and Sen Gaetz; however, no senator voted for recess during the Trump Presidency which would have allowed recess appointments. You have to accept that NO SENATOR IS ON OUR SIDE. It’s hard, I admit it, but it’s true none the less.
I believe Gaetz is in the House.
Bigsky51, Gaetz is in the house. The gop senators are a lost cause. Maybe Senator Hawley is ok.
Frankly, for those truly PAYING attention, this has been apperent for MANY years.
Sundance has been writing about the “Decepticons”, and the relationship between Mitch and Donahue (CoC) for many years,…
I have been commenting for at least TWO years, here on this, in explaining my reason for being utterly convinced Barr was a fraud; because MITCH confirmed him.
I have posted my arguments for why the “insurance policy” could ONLY have gotten beyond the planning stages, is with the ACTIVE approval, coordination and input of McConnell and Ryan.
Grew tired of refuting those who argue against a SECOND party, as I conclude they are either RNC rolcons, or brainwashed idiots.
I have no problem witha two part strategy; inftrate and MAGAFY the LOCAL R party, and work to bolster the State and local governments, to stand up to Federal over reach, even AS we form our American First party.
After all, a major tactic the RNC used to undermine the Tea party, was to infiltrate it with RNC operatives, bent on destroying it.
They did the same with Perots party, led by Buchanan.
Whats good for goose, heh?
The tired old argumentsI have heard all my life, fall flat.
After Perot, the Uniparty worked to make it more difficult for a “3rd party” to mount a National campaign, such rules can be changed again.
Had the Internet existed during the Age of the Whig Party, there would be Whigs on this website telling people to keep voting for Whigs even if all the Whig candidates suck.
Why can’t we replace the R candidates that suck with good candidates that don’t?
We can, but they need to independent of the uniparty funding and thus control. That is all a true second party represents minus the marketing. If they vote MAGA they are MAGA.
Dutchman, I have preached both parties were corrupt for decades. I just didn’t know the cute names we have for them today. I firmly believe the Executive Branch is united against the voters. Presidents come and go, they remain in power forever and do exactly as they please.
The only choice we have been given is the republican incumbent is better than the loon democrat. Maybe they were until they stabbed us in the back. I will not be voting again until I have a choice of someone, anyone other than a republican incumbent or a democrat loon.
The ONLY way The Republican Party can be saved going forward after its repeated attempts at suicide is for the Republican controlled legislatures in the two dozen States or so that backed the MAGA movement to raise Holy Hell with The D C beast. If they fight Every illegal unconstitutional edict from the the unifascists there may be hope for the Republic. It’s up to the State Legislatures to carry this fight to them. There is no other option. A strong States Rights defense against unconstitutional action by the Feds is the lasting Rx for what ails this Nation. Declare sanctuary states and tie them up in court. It worked for the Dems. No help will be forthcoming from The DC crowd as they have too much to lose. It’s always been local. If the leaders closest to the people’s will actually fight then they will have earned our support and trust and the need for new party will fade.
Democrats are Democrats
RINOs are Democrats.
With that in mind, we have nothing to lose by attempting to vote the RINOs out during the primary but if doesn’t go our way and the RINO steal the victory, we MUST run a spoiler 3rd candidate in the general.
I agree.
RINOs are democrats. But not all Republicans are RINOS.
In the senate but not in the House.
It’s called BCS. Battered Conservative Syndrome.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/08/treatment-for-battered-conservative-syndrome
I won’t support Republican anymore because deep state coup swamp Rep like Liz Cheney,
Yep! There are Libtards, Demtards, and Repubtards on one side and Conservative Patriots on the other side.
Another party…a weak party….WON’T WORK. Period.
How about a strong party? Why would it have to be weak?
And the present party is strong?
D C Republicans are like a fish that jumped out of the water and landed on the river bank. They flip and flop all over the place with their mouths flappin but are helpless and unable to save themselves. Yet their mouth still flap as they gasp for air. D C Republicans are that fish’s head and you know where they say the rot starts.
Voting is the new shower emitting gas. You need to wake up and help us.
Why be an obstacle to our safety? No party wants us. No puppet fights for us. Every institution has been Sacked.
It’s time to weed it to just fighters – 300 . I would rather know my end was with real Americans than pretend a political party will save me.
There are many of us that share that sentiment.
Canadian PDJT supporter here.
A straw poll conducted among fellow Canadian PDJT supporters (5) here in our community.
4 out of 5 would support a new party, with PDJT as the leader. The other just supports PDJT and thinks the U.S.A. Political system is a insane.
You’re all right.
And neither will the Republican party.
Coast, would you still say that if there was only one party?
What we have now DOESN’T WORK.
And it hasn’t WORKED for at least 30 years.
I would love to think a 3rd party would work but history shows it doesn’t. Dems will NEVER break rank. Therefore it will only split the Republicans which gives the dems the win. We need to cease funding the GOP pac and only fund the individual who is a True Patriot candidate. That way we rebuild a true Patriot Republican Party.
Does your history include the time period where our jobs were shipped overseas?
Why should another party.. a New party that has 80,000,000 adherents to start with be considered weak? And why wouldn’t it WORK? Many MAGA voters have kids and grandkids who will be voting in upcoming elections. Many of us have disillusioned neighbors and relatives who are finally seeing the truth. They are potential allies. I’d love to see Republicans get it together but it won’t happen with the D C crowd ever. Change from within and resistance to the beast system will have to come from local heroes as there are only cowards and fools in D C with too much to lose to do the right thing. State Legislators have been the answer all along as they are closest to the people’s will. Let them know what you expect and in fact demand. I see no other route for Republicans. They have to regain the people’s trust or its oblivion for them.
There will likely never be a better opportunity than the present, if a new party is to emetge.
A positive outlook. How refreshing amid the doom and gloom. You Sir obviously actually believe in what you say. To quote a great man..What have you got to lose? D C Republicans hate us. How can honorable people join with them? Let’s break free. The Republicans left will beg us for our support. If you wear their label they own you. A new party will change the entire political landscape. Why are we still discussing this worn out proposition? If they want to dance with us that’s ok but We will call the tune this time. No mitch wanna be’s need apply.
Is any further evidence necessary to conclude that the Republican Party is suicidal? The Democrats want our destruction and the Republicans are only too eager to facilitate the process.
Murkowski, Romney, Cheney…would any other political party have elevated these backstabbers into high office? Either the party they represent must go or the party must censure and remove them. I have waited beyond endurance for a solution to this impasse but none seem to be forthcoming.
I posit that the Republican Party is not suicidal, it is murderous.
Mitch McConnell should ALWAYS be listed as first traitor, always.
agree. Mitch led the destruction of the Tea Party movement. I remember him being quoted. Their personal enrichment is more important to them then any loyalty to the country. As we found out during President Trump’s attempt to get a court hearing of the evidence, there aren’t really any Trump judges. They are really McConnell judges. Sickening.
Infuriating to listen to this wench deliberately mischaracterize Trump’s speech and promise “many, many criminal investigations”. Particularly galling was her Kafkaesque comment that Trump tweeting Pence was a coward may have been a signal to the rioters. This is the haughty, arrogant, indolent face of a narcissistic Marxist. Make no mistake, that face would sentence you, the conservative, to the concentration camp or firing squad as effortlessly as ordering lunch.
The only insurrection was by the parties who stole the election (Democrats) and who ran interference for that theft (Republicans). Make no mistake, THOSE are the parties and people who overthrew the United States. The only criminal investigations should be into the Democrat party, the DOJ, Barr, Wray, etc; and their Republican accomplices.
What’s happening now is the victim, having been viciously gang raped, sodomized, and beaten, is being blamed by her criminal attackers.
Exactly!
A third party in the mode of the Conservative Party in NY. First they support Republicans that vote conservative. Then they chose a candidate to support in the Republican primary to run against non-conservative Republicans. This prevent the Republicans from diluting the field by running many false conservative candidates by vetting them. If the Republicans cheat, they run that candidate as third party. This will probably mean the Democrats win, but they have to be willing to lose short term to win long term. Removing entrenched Republicans in the power structures is more important than winning that seat. This also gives the third party leverage to have fair primaries. McConnell is willing to lose elections to maintain power, MAGA has to be also willing to. That’s why the Senators in Georgia didn’t argue the voting irregularities in the runoff election, because it would have given President TrumpParty support. It’s also how he killed the Tea Party. If I remember right, the two major parties give themselves an advantage in getting on the ballot, so taking over the Republican Party has its advantages, but by also attacking from the outside, they lack the same power. There are many good Republicans in the states, and a few in Congress. I’m sure some will not leave the Republicans, thus dividing MAGA candidates. This way they can stay while the third party removes the Republican power structure.
Most folks forget that there is a huge “Walk Away” movement that happened, there’s also a huge percentage of Democrats who don’t like what has happened to their party, just as the right side of the republican party. Both sides could in fact crush both sides with a very strong new party. Time will tell. But for now I have totally given up on the Republicans they are no longer my party and never will be again
Exactly. And there are a ton of independents, and a ton of people who don’t even vote, but might for candidates that speak to them.
The gigantic populist realignment needs to happen.
I’m an independent and always have been. I have never belonged to either party but have voted probably 99% of the time for Republicans.
A LOT of Democrats voted for President Trump. The Walk Aways are a great example – they walked from the Democrat Party and supported/voted for President Trump.
Brandon Straka (Walk Away founder) held many rallies alongside the Stop the Steal and other rallies. They were fully on board in the belief that the Election was Stolen.
Right. After leaving one brood of vipers, they are seeing they merely transferred to another.
Did we take over the GOP after Goldwater lost? How about after Reagan won? How about today? The GOP has always been a Yankee, Big Business, Big Government Party. Now, you can add “globalist” as well, except this includes being anti-white (all those cheap-workers-workers-of-color).
No one exposed it to the masses until Trump.
Removing entrenched Republicans in the power structures is more important than winning that seat.
One hundred percent absolutely spot-on.
Now the challenge is to get everyone to realize this.
Rob, one would think after seeing the republican betrayal with their own eyes these last four years people would see that a seat occupied by one of these traitors is worthless to you, but priceless to them. Vote out a few of them in 2022, and you will see attitudes change.
This
Ray, “McConnell is willing to lose seats to maintain power.” Exactly and the people who want to stay in the party only talk about regaining seats in 2022 as if keeping the traitorous republicans and adding a couple more make any difference. You have to be able to take the losses to win. I would like to see Mitch leading a minority of about 30 in 2022.
They are going to make a lot of noise this week in the senate impeachment trial this week to show how they are fighting for Trump. Do not fall for it. It is gratuitous and means nothing. They didn’t fight when it mattered. I will not watch one minute of it.
Not sure if I’ve missed it… but what is the CTH position on our Republican voter registration? Is our collective power in moving it to Independent or staying in the party for now?
If you have no party affiliation on your voter registration, you are not an Independent. You are what’s known as a “blank” meaning no party..
A ‘blank’ it is. They’ll never see me coming : )
Depends on your state..
The only value is in sending the message that’s sent by un-registering as a Republican.
Thank you for stating this unequivocally. Too many conservatives STILL refuse to see this. It’s mind boggling to me.
My SO Said, when he saw how hard Georgia was being targeted for the first Ossoff race that it wasn’t winning these people want, they don’t think we even have the right to exist and they want to destroy every last one of us. Plus, the Republicans were doing nothing about it within the state. And that is exactly what we are seeing at a national level from within the GOP as well as the left.
They want us gone and they are out to destroy every last one of us. Labeling Trump
Supporters as insurrectionists – or more accurately now calling us Trump
Supporters is a pejorative – is the first step in genociding us, make no mistake about it. They are dehumanizing us just as Obama kicked off with bitter clingers, Hillary did with deplorables and Biden did with chumps etc.
I don’t Know what’s coming but I know it’s not good and I am praying for America and all patriots, that we have wisdom and perseverance and that God grants us a hedge of protection.
The US has been conquered and occupied by Bolsheviks. You want to know what’s coming? Read a history of the USSR, 1917 – 1956.
Jimmy Jack
February 7, 2021 9:12 pm
I don’t Know what’s coming but I know it’s not good and I am praying for America and all patriots, that we have wisdom and perseverance and that God grants us a hedge of protection.
They are coming to kill you.
There is absolute hatred from their side.
They want to erase God from earth. To erase His followers. Most MAGA are Godly folk, not all, mind you, but the ones that aren’t know the natural law in their hearts, and the enemy wants that extinguished.
Look at every people that has ever been conquered. The fighters are destroyed first so there is no chance of an uprising.
This is the reality people have to face.
Insurrectionists. Domestic Terrorists. That’s what they label us.
Reality stinks at times, but it must be faced or the consequences means your demise.
I became a registered Independent on 01/06/21. I am looking for a political party that represents me and the interests of the USA.
There isn’t one right now.
I have after 60 years officially resigned from the republican party. I will never vote for another republican again. I hope President Trump starts a new party after this false impeachment is over. Most third party’s start with a small base and lose. President Trump has a large base and common sense tells me it can be a force to be reckoned with against the uniparty.
Of the 70+ million voters who voted for Trump in 2020, how many will stick with him for the bumpy ride ahead? The enemy doesn’t want to just defeat us, it wants to humiliate us.
Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom. 12: 12
110+ million
I will stick with America First and constitutionally correct governance.
Worse than that. It wants to annihilate us. And the Republicans aren’t exactly running to defend us.
No, quite the opposite.
logboom, the ride is bumpy enough now, don’t you think? Following and remaining loyal to Trump, the only politician who fought for the people, is a no brainer for me. The republican party will do nothing for us except offer lip service and never keep their promises.
If you can get a republican majority in the house, what difference will it make with the current leadership? Who votes for the leaders? Our republican representative, who we sent to represent us is not when they hold secret votes.
The voting system has to change or we will be in the same place we are in now.
I am ready!!! I thought long and hard, did research. Then on Jan 7th I changed to PND- party no designation- which is basically my States version of Independent.
My parents didn’t raise a victim. Tea party gave Republican party House and Senate. They stabbed Tea Party in the back and turned on us.
Then we gave them President Trump and they stabbed him- and us- in the back.
Researched and found many sources that showed stats that Independent voters are actually a larger voting block than either Republican or Democrat parties. And I would wager a bet that number has dramatically increased since the election.
A LOT of people have had it with BOTH parties.
When new party is established- I have gut feeling it IS going to happen- the MAGA representatives who stuck by President Trump will have a choice to go with new MAGA party or stick with Republican party. It will be their choice.
Yes, I know that I will not be able to vote in my States primary but that is sacrifice I am willing to make.
We made our voices heard. We voted for President Trump -yes, I know he won. But, the Republican party allowed our vote to be stolen. And even now they are refusing to stand by/for what the VOTERS want.
We attended rallies.
We had car parades
We had boat parades
We had parades in towns and cities
We stood on corners waving signs and flags
We knocked on doors -met with neighbors
We got the Republican party more seats than they thought we could.
They heard us! And STILL they turned their backs on us?!
Nope. Keeping my PND status! Waiting for Patriot Party.
Benefits of being PND-
It seems to frustrate those nitwit poll watchers when dealing with Independents.
I can stand in the middle of a political discussion without being automatically dismissed as being “party aligned “. I can speak from the middle.
Which means I can “bash” both parties!
It always concerns me whenever something/anything happens it seems to be automatic–registered Democrat/Republican. I can no longer be placed in a category.
I won’t feel pressured to make donations.
It’s a statement that I don’t believe any of their B.S. any more. And ya know…that’s a great feeling!
Bring on the Patriot Party!
I’m 65 and I never dreamed in my worst nightmares that I would ever live to see the stinking dangerous rot that is now our federal government. Every institution rotten to the core. The total disrespect for a president and half the citizens of this country. This cannot stand. I don’t know what the spark will be. In the American Revolution it was the Boston Massacre and the attempt to disarm citizens at Concord and Lexington. But I can feel a fuse burning.
But at a bare minimum let’s attack them with a new party.
The Colonists were fighting the invading Brits. We’re fighting the US Government and half the people in the US.
Half the people in the US?
President Trump won the election with the real majority of the voters.
Your “half” are faux voters.
They are like the fan cutouts used to fill the seats at the football game.
Half of that half may get fed up with the general tyranny that is coming to all Americans regardless of their political persuasion. If our message is clear and one of Liberty for ALL some may see the light and join us. I sometimes wonder if some on the Conservative side really believe in the concepts that the Founders held dear. There is no benefit to the continual rehashing of events and playing the blame game with the Dems or the repugs. How about we Conservatives develop a strong platform of beliefs and solutions that will benefit all Americans. And present them boldly as a real alternative to the same old same old. We are in this together like it or not.
Clay, the ‘repugnant’ party has a nice ring to it.
The Constitutional Liberty Party with the Tree of Liberty as its symbol. Quite appropriate I think considering the battle between Patriots and Tyrants that is currently raging.
Agree. Georgia was the warning the GOP ignored.
They have taken us for granted for so long they cannot grok that we are willing to let a Democrat win.
Well GA showed otherwise. Not even Trump could make them vote GOP.
I am not in GA, but I voted establishment GOP on 11/3 because Trump needed ersatz Republicans if he won.
After he lost, had my state had a run off, I wld have stayed home.
Who cares if the winner is a left wing Democrat or a moderate Democrat which is what Republicans like Cheney are.
Lots of grass roots changes happening here in the WyoGOP. Ms. Cheney won’t make the ticket next go-round. End the “Republicrat” Party, check out ConventionofStates.com and get involved!)
WyoMike, I heard Lizzy say she was going to keep explaining to you why she has a duty to honor her oath to The Constitution, not the ill informed Trump supporters. Apparently, she feels the voters in Wyoming do not understand what her role of a representative is, but don’t fret, she is going to keep explaining until you get it.
Mmm I’m thinking a scalpel….
Obviously the republicans in Wyoming are not the same as the Republican in Ohio..
The Republicans are not all bad .. think of Jim Jordan , MAtt
Gaetz in Florida or our Gov Ron DeSantis as an example..
So I’m floating this.. it would be nice to take over the parts of the structure not corrupted . money talks and BS
Walks .. so obviously we need to start a money war chest… only with funds can we hope to win races..
start contribution to President Trump..
I think it would be very re-assuring
for 60 million citizen to just give President Trump $10 dollars … and immediately letting PDT we are not abandoning him or MAGA.
When you pick a max of 6 out of 200, you have token opposition. This opposition could share your values, or they are just providing an excuse for for those who don’t want to abandon the party.
The VAST majority of American voters on Trump voters, that includes many elected officials, just no those elected to DC. Those state level elected officials who support Trump will change parties when a new one show it is viable.
First we have to form it and vote for those that run on the platform.
just my 2 cents
New Party, get strategic go RINO hunting, and snag a few Senate Seats.
That will mess them up.
Get a media presence going.
$600,000,000 is pocket change for a Big Tech oligarch. So is $6 billion. Gelt won’t do the job. PIck another heavy metal.
How much worse can we be with a spoiler NEW party than we are now?
With the illegal voters pouring in and the cheating, the GOP won’t ever win again anyway so we might as well at least end the BasT@#%#d’s careers and send them packing.
Exactly. They’re gonna lose bigly no matter who they are running against.
At the end of the day, I am glad that a RINO like Kelly Leoffler is not a Georgia GOP Senator.
The only reason Kemp even appointed Kelly Leoffler as a Georgia Senator in the first place over Doug Collins is because her husband, Jeffrey Sprecher, is the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Sprecher
Talk of 2022 is too late.
The battle is in 2021 ………
We didn’t start this fight ……..
Is Sundance “in” the Party as a member of his local committee? The Party can be transformed if conservatives invade it and take it over. Using the simple, common sense, Neighborhood Precinct Committeeman Strategy. It works when conservatives work it. Thank you.
Why would we join our enemy? They’ve been my enemy for about 2 decades. Others are finally figuring it out now.
That sounded great 10 years ago.
And nobody pushes that line harder than the GOP.
The name and brand republican have now been so tainted it will never work for a group that has been disaffected by both parties. Start fresh with joy and optimism and a belief in our God given rights, our country, our constitution and our people.
While ramping this up go to your election board and challenge the use of machines, the illegally implemented processes and also demand transparency, to include multiple watchers from every party at every location for every vote.
No, it really can’t. At least in PA it can’t. My brother and others have been trying unsuccessfully for years. If the GOP in PA had supported President Trump, he might still be in the White House. But he and his supporters are considered enemies.
You are correct.
This is been the only explanation since November 4. So many on this thread keep talking tough. There’s nothing to take back. Stop the nonsense. President Trump should’ve started the third party in December. Made the announcement and kicked it off. Such a shame it didn’t happen yet. Probably too late now.
That’s why they are putting him on trial. It’s just another attempt to keep his hands tied. The day after that trial is over, some lefty DA will indict him for some nonsense so that he is put on trial again.
But it is not too late. If anything, more democrats are getting disillusioned with the left.
WE can start without him, if he wishes to come on as leader later, fine. He already showed us the way.
Walking away from the National GOPe means abandoning the state organizations that are what are keeping the red states red. DeSantis, Noem, all the Republican state legislatures get replaced with Democrats. Good work suicidal so called ‘conservatives’. BTW. the Democrats won’t thank you. They’ll still want you dead. You’ll just have made their desire that much easier.
Fix the Republican Party in the primaries. That means the Get Out The Vote is for the August elections as well as the November elections. If there isn’t enough enthusiasm to swing the primary, all your MAGA party is going to do is split the vote between the Libertarians and the Constitutionalists anyway.
Not true.
Jin- you are 100% correct and I am sorry to have to disagree with Sundance and so many other Treepers.
Just for starters, those of you who are demanding we start a new third party- please explain exactly how you are going to set up this wonderful new infrastructure, get organized and financed and get MAGA candidates on the ballots of all 50 states. It is not possible. I don’t care who is involved.
There is a reason that President Trump does not seem interested in a third party.
Why would we ever want to walk away from people like DeSantis, Noem, Gohmert, Gaetz,, Nunes, etc.???
Do you people have any idea what you’re proposing?? It’s a suicide pact, not a new party.
Seneca, what you are missing is this is not simply an attempt to replace republicans; this is an attempt to remove republicans at all cost. Never again should a republican hold a federal seat.
All of those people are successful because they transcend the GOP brand.
Starting a new party isn’t like flipping a switch. Just because we are no longer republicans doesn’t mean we wouldn’t vote for a good one if that were the best choice.
But honestly – Why should they want to stay in a party that would facilitate stealing the presidential election?
Maybe someone would answer your questions if you answer theirs.
Why would you concede/give away the millions upon millions of votes from disillusioned Dems, disillusioned Pubs, vast numbers of Independents who would vote for a new party and will not continue to vote for the Party that destroyed our great President?
Reforming the traitorous snake party will not bring those votes. Yet you seem to not care.
You mean like the Tea Party took over?
You mean like Roy Moore got nominated and McConnell helped defeat him? You mean like AG Barr prosecuted those who spied on Trump? You mean like Cheney and Romney and Sasse and Murkowski and Collins and Flake and all those Republicans who turn on us as soon as they get in office? You mean like we elected Trump only to have his own party undermine him? That Republican Party?
Trust them one more time as we have for 50 years? Yeah, Sounds like a plan.
I am just glad the Republicans didn’t follow it when they abandoned the Whigs.
NO they can change parties. If they stand for what we believe they will.
So your argument is that the same people who voted DeSantis in will not vote for him when they are independendent?
I don’t understand how you could rationally try to make that argument.
She is a complete clown. “Our party should not be embracing the former President”. The real question is do these people actually think they are going to convince the majority of the Republican Party to just fall in line with their BS? I mean obviously they do….I guess. It’s truly shocking and outrageous.
Falling in line is what we’ve ALWAYS (eventually) done, Jennifer. Look what it has got U.S.
They will continue to trot these folks out spewing the same ole…
Until the same ole doesn’t work any longer.
I sincerely hope we have reached that point.
Obviously “the party” is the republicans in congress to her.
Looks like what the voters want doesn’t matter.
And actually – it’s better for Trump to be seen as outside the corrupt GOP swamp. Everyone knows they are total losers.
We need a new party and I suggest Mike Lindell as a possible leader. He’s brave, patriotic, well-known and knows how to make a great pillow. He’s also willing to put actions and words together.
WATCH: Mike Lindell Has Sudden ‘Epiphany’ And Says He Will Sue Dominion And Smartmatic (msn.com)
Cheney must realize that Marjorie Taylor Greene has more base support than she does.
but cheney has more big money…for now.
It’s as important to reveal to registered Dems how they are abused and laughed at by their party (of course with what Biden has done already to the working man, I don’t know how much more they need, but the generation of voters in their 30s and headed into their 40s doesn’t much know who they are anyway) as much as it is to reveal to the world what was done to Trump voters and the country.
Liz Cheney has no support outside the DC bubble. There’s 80+ million of US, she & other traitors in the R party don’t stand a chance. Trump has announced his intention to take back control of the Republican party, return it to the party of Lincoln, he rejected any association w a new party & started the Save American PAC, I’m following his leadership.
I think he had to say that to save himself from the republican senators that are going along with the sham impeachment trial version 2.0.
Heidi, would you happen to have a link to the “Save America PAC”?
TYIA
I say to all my fellow Americans. I live here in Wyoming this is not US we are patriots standing ready.
We will die with our bibles an Jesus Christ by our side. I pray for all of us.
There’s a song out there, Bring Down The CCP.
GOP would fit nicely.
Find it on Y’tube.
Trying to establish a third party is a losing proposition. That will simply assure that the Democrats will win many more presidential, congressional and state elections.
A much better strategy is to stay in the Republican Party and primary as many RINOs as possible. At some point, RINOs will be few and far between in the Republican Party and we’ll have a true conservative, libertarian party that will win lots of elections at all levels.
No. The republican party is unsalvageable.
And must be destroyed. You don’t try to repair a barn littered with termites; you burn it down and start over.
That’s what we need to do
Who cares if the other vulture wing wins? It’s the same vulture.
NO, too long and country gone by then. Now, while the iron is hot. As Biden and crew continue more will join us.
You just watched the GOP throw the mid-terms to the DNC in 2018 via mass retirement from the house, block their own POTUS from appointments for 4 years, and throw both the presidency and Senate to the DNC in 2020 in a scheme to steal an election. And you want to talk about losing propositions????
But, but, but, we can fix it next time!
Our Tea Party II people won’t get totally screwed like they did last time! We promise!
50 US Senators that have GOP next to them are RINO’s, and 200 odd House Members. Any time now we’ll have patriot reps, anytime! Just need to win a primary or 300. Heard there’s a great young Ag Commish in Texas. Always says good things about Trump we should make him the putative leader?! Totally you can trust that Bush.
Isn’t the issue lack of funding for a third party? Globalists finance their primary party, the Democrats, but they also finance their secondary party, the Republicans. Nobody votes for Republicans except to avoid having Democrats in power. There is roughly zero voter base for the Republican Party. The Republican voter base wants Trump and Trumpist candidates.
Trump got elected in 2016 and won again in 2020 (stolen by vote fraud) because he represented real Americans. He did not need globalist money, because he was rich and was already a public figure. He bragged about not needing the enemy’s money.
Take the horrid Liz Cheney as an example. Despite Wyoming being a deep red state, she is likely to be re-elected because of her access to globalist cash. Lisa Murkowski in Alaska is another example. Globalists will not finance Trumpist candidates and are happy to have them lose to a Democrat if that’s necessary.
I’m sorry I don’t have the answer, but the core problem is globalist cash.
No way she gets reelected. I bet she doesn’t run for reelection. She has 90% disapproval in WY. No-one is going back to vote for her after that betrayal.
Cheney is prepping herself for a lobbying job or a legal consultant for a large Law firm. She knows she is dead in Wyoming. At least Romney has the support of the LDS church and half the Democrats in Utah. She wants money now like Paul Ryan.
She will get it too.
Trump set records for small dollar donations from US! We will fund the new party with small dollar donations and some larger dollar donations. As someone has repeatedly posted…$100 given by 80 million Americans is a massive amount of money!
That’s $8 Billion for those not good at math
Sounds like there’s quite a few NRO posters on here who either have battered wives syndrome or are members of John mccain family.
You are right. They hate us. But the point that is missing is that the GOP is the party of Lincoln. We must fight to remove the Cheneys, Bushes, COC, Lying Lincoln Project, etc, etc. Take back the party of Lincoln!
Lincoln would never associate with this party now. A smart man knows when to move on. .Not enough lipstick to fix this.
After seeing this clip elsewhere earlier today, I told someone, Trump or no Trump, I can’t do it anymore. This is just abuse that has gotten worse over the years.
Liz might be kicking off her Presidential campaign here.
Jeb! had lots of money but no voters.
Nikki will have lots of money but no voters.
The big donors reward right thinkers.
Cheney’s ghostwriter might be working on her autobiography right now. They’ve promised Liz she need not read it, just cash the big advance check.
Agreed, desertbloom.
Hundreds of commenters tonight pretty much agree. Republicans are complete crap. The problem is THEY ALL NOW KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH CHEATING ELECTIONS. Why does anybody honestly think a new party, let alone the old one, will ever again get to decide the outcome. They blatantly cheated the presidential election.
All thee branches of federal and state officials enabled it.
We no longer have fair and honest elections folks. Accept it and stop pretending we are free. We are NOT.
There are three things we should be doing right now.
1/ We should demand all real conservatives, people we think truly represent us, WALK AWAY AND REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE IN A SHAM GOVERNMENT. The same applies at the state level in 6 states. Just walk away.
2/ We should massively tweet, comment, blog, write, post signs, buy billboards, every channel of communication should be screaming, we DO NOT ACCEPT THIS ELECTION. It needs to be said by 80 million voters every single day. The only way to blow out the gaslight is to SCREAM the truth.
3/ We should be organizing protests in the state capitols to demand that forensic audits be done and elections be fair. We cant go to DC but we can surely go to Atlanta, Detroit, etc.
The thing is, we can never be normal again if this election stands. It’s really that simple. Supporting a 3rd party fixes nothing. We’ll be branded domestic terrorists and we’ll lose everything, but we’re going to lose everything anyway. Our only hope is to act now, before the concrete completely hardens and gains strength.
TRUTH!
Get in there and let’s help Texas secede. There will be a mad rush to the exits to join by the other states. Let them have the $30 trillion debt and the Federal Reserve. Let’s reset without all the globalist BS.
Liz Cheney will be fired by Wyoming in less than 18 months. Yes, she’s a RINO and she’s a hypocrite but I don’t think we have to throw the baby out with the bath water. We need to quit putting people like Liz Cheney into Congress/Senate when we do not need to do so. The Wyoming R party was just star-struck be her DC connections. They know better now. I understand the urge to stick it to the RINO’s but I think it’s best to stay focused on taking the party over from the bottom up.
Liz Cheney is lashing out because she knows her days are numbered. She’s fantasizing that she can out-Trump Trump and take over the party. She’s nuts.
I love how these people think that Trump just bullied his way into the party. They just do not see him for who he is nor do they see their base for who they are.
Get smart … Stay focused… and then get even….
To have a viable third we must first destroy the republican party. I will vote for locals I support, I will not vote for a republican for DC. I’m a conservative but the republican party are mostly communists. It’s time to force them to join the dem party.
This country abhors a single-party system. The fastest way to a viable alternative is to remove the non-viable alternative. The republican party has decapitated itself; it’s time to let it die.
NO more weekends at Bernies
I came of age during Reagan. I believed the GOP were the conservatives they pretended to be. The GOP courted the right to life movement, pretended to be one of us. They lied to us for 30+ years, telling us how much they wanted to fight for life, but just never quite had enough elected officials, or enough money, or enough something, even though 75% of the public agrees with at least some limitations.
They took our votes, our money, and our time, all while pretending to fight for us while stabbing us in the back.
Then they did the same with our soldiers. With our friends, fathers, sons, brothers. They said they were for the military and sent them to die to feed the military industrial complex.
Then they did the same with the TEA party people. Oh yes, we are with you. Vote for us to stop Obama. Meanwhile we will collude with Obama to sick the IRS and all the other powers of the federal government on you.
Now they have done it again with America First. Oh yes, we believe in America First, just not this loudmouth guy that dragged us kicking and screaming to it every step of the way. They think because they fooled us so many times in the past we will still buy it. But after stabbing him in the back they immediately turn and stab us in the back. Every. Single. American.
The dems at least tell you they are going to stab you and do it from in front. The GOP tells you they are going to protect you and the minute you look at the dems, the GOP stabs you
I’m done with them.
Thank you for the post!
Hasn’t President Trump said he plans to work within the GOP? So we must convince otherwise?
President Trump is trying to maintain the ability to run again
Dick Morris has said before and again today that any of the Republicans like Chaney that voted to impeach the President they will not be reelected She came across today as some smug stupid person and She is not well liked right now and The only thing the Republicans want to do is knock the crap out of the President and make sure that he knows they dont want him or us in their party and
she better watch her mouth If McCarthy doesnt have the back bone to shut her up maybe the voters in her state will do it for him.. she has sure shown her true colors since all of this stuff started Guess she thought they were finally rid of President Trump and that scumbag finally found out what they did to help Biden win was not enough and the truth will come out As it always does..
The truth always comes out sooner or later
Yet they remove Margorie Green from her committee assignments
A lousy $100 fine and probation for someone who falsified documents and lied under oath before a FISA court multiple times for the purpose of opening and continuing a fraudulent espionage operation against a lawfully elected president…. and this egomaniac lady wants to investigate a Trump Rally, the Million MAGA March in DC?
“They hate us.”
I don’t even think they hate us – that would require actual emotions and strong feelings…I think they are just utterly contemptuous of us. We are nothing more than little annoying gnats that buzz around their faces. They mindlessly swat at us and just want us to go away and leave them alone, so that they can carry out their “grand” and “glorious” plans!
Dead on.
Right now, it is a rigged game. By both parties. A new Political Party is the only way to break that.
Test
Republicans must become a third party while Trump helps to raise up a new party that may be able to save the country.
Since Representatives are voted on every two years, then we CAN change the Republican Party in very short order. Ask any candidate for the House whether they support Liz Cheney or Donald Trump. Ask them whether they support Main Street or Wall Street. Make sure you know who finances their campaigns. If they are getting big money from big donors, then look elsewhere. Vote for the guy or gal who is getting support from people like you and me. It should not be hard in these times to decipher who are the populist candidates and who are the DeceptiCons who are seeking office to feed at the public trough.
I don’t often disagree with Sundance. But in this instance, I assert that we CAN and SHOULD work to overthrow the Republican Party from within. If we don’t work from within, it will be even more difficult to get enough traction to end that component of the Uniparty who attach an (R) next to their name.
The brand is totally tainted, beyond recovery and actually a hindrance to building a strong populist party movement.
So are you ok with a litmus test for new candidates that they swear to oust McConnell and McCarthy from their leadership positions?
If so, how did that work out for the “centrist Dems” that promised to oust Pelosi?