Representative Jim Jordan and Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo discuss the latest information, releases and investigations within the overall “Spygate” dynamic.
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Earlier today Maria Bartiromo sent out a tweet indicating significant declassification is about to be released. Now, let me put the dots together….
We know to a demonstrable certainty that Mark Meadows was the majority source of information fed to John Solomon while Meadows was in congress. Meadows was Solomon’s primary source for almost all of his reporting. We also know that Meadows kicked-off a stink recently with his “off-record” commentary creating a narrative that President Trump was much more ill than admitted by White House.
Additionally, Mark Meadows recently said that President Trump was reviewing and declassifying information while he was in Walter Reed medical facility. Put it all together and I will wager you a considerable sum that Mark Meadows is now Bartiromo’s source.
You can make of that what you will…. However, after recognizing in 2018 that Solomon was purposefully being fed controlled messaging, much of it misdirection; and discovering in 2020 that controlled misdirection messaging came from Meadows; and accepting that Meadows is still a feeder for information; and suspecting that Bartiromo is the new Solomon….. I hold a suspicious vibe about, controlled information and Mark Meadows.
https://twitter.com/AbbyGrossberg/status/1313540131681427458
We all understand that Spygate was bad. We should punish the plotters, but Big Tech censorship will have much worse effects. It needs to be nipped in the bud immediately. Jordan is suspect.
IMHO, Cernovich is a self-promoting hack and is no friend to POTUS.
I wouldn’t take his word on anything.
I can tell a huckster when I hear one. Jim Jordan’s fast talking routine is meant to distract conservatives. He’s Trey Gowdy all over again.
With rolled up sleeves.
What ? I’ve followed Jordan for years and don’t agree. He talks very quickly because he has a lot of information to impart and not much time. I’ve seen him do this in hearings.
Indeed. Reminds me of Larry Elder. No faster speaker than Larry.
Larry has to talk fast because Fox only allows him 1 or 2 mins & always last segment of any show.
Doug Collins has my vote for fastest talker and with a twang to boot.
Utter nonsense!
I agree Jordan is also full of it, he showed himself to be just a politician just like the rest of them … Yuck
Seminar poster.
Babble on Sentient. You think you know but you don’t know squat. You must talk to yourself really fast.
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But he’s not lying. Jordan’s number one donor is telling him what they want and he will deliver. It’s not about Rs or Ds, it’s about how the system works in DC.
*Correction: Google was Jordan’s 2nd biggest donor in the 2018 election cycle.
jordan will take thir money and then DISMANTLE them after the eleciton.
let him huck. its BRILLIANT. same reason why POTUS saved the arrest for TERM 2. where it would be more possible and DEFINITE
It’ll be brilliant if it’s true. To be determined. He needs to know that we don’t trust him and we won’t just because he can rattle off talking points like Hannity.
Ok. Treepers were heavily behind Jim Jordan during all of the Spygate Hearings, during all the Adam Schiff secret Shampeachment hearings, and when he was smeared and falsely accused of tawdry activities as a wrestling coach.
I’ve never seen or heard Jordan say or do anything against President Trump.
Despite the Republicans leading the House between Trumps inauguration and the 2018 midterms, neither Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, Matt Gaetz, or anyone else in the House Freedom Caucus were the House Speaker (Lyin Ryan), nor the Majority Leader (Ryan’s sidekick Kevin McCarthy) nor the Majority Whip (Steve Scalise).
THATs why we Deplorables haven’t seen any legislation passed that truly supported PDJT’s MAGA agenda beyond the tax cuts of December 2017.
I think criticism of Jordan here because he talks rapidly is weak, wrongly directed, and must represent some other animus by the complainers. I agree with Jordan – if Google wants to donate to his campaign, fine.
Sundance has presented a series of facts that supports some doubt and further investigation into Meadows motives. But I’ve seen no one present evidence that support suspicious activities or motives on Jordan’s part.
G B Bari: I’ll withhold judgment too.
I also am one that needs more evidence, more on-going scenarios that conclusively lead to a conclusion that is irrefutable. My opinions don’t blow with the wind although a caution flag might be raised.
I didn’t say anything about his speaking style, as that is irrelevant but I simply present his own words as evidence that in spite of being a solid ally of the President, Jordan is still beholden to corporate interests like Google. I think most of the Republican Congress is in this position. He’s a patriot but he’s not truly independent.
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Read Jordan’s memo. His reasoning is sound. Democrats are experts at hijacking issues to advance big government ‘solutions’ to problems caused by Leftists, and Antitrust is no different than ‘net neutrality’ in that regard.
Democrats like Nader are happy to use their venue to distract and depower Executive branch investigations, and use this current crisis as leverage to use Antitrust as a political cudgel for their own power consolidation. Jordan rightly identifies the risk and advises specific ways the Republicans can avoid being drawn into the trap.
In addition, neverTrumpers have been engaged in an unremitting campaign of disinfo smearing.
Unlike leftists, the can “speak republican” and so can more effectively cast aspersions on members of PDJT’s team, to undermine it, and some of his most effective people.
All the “Javanca” horse crap started by them, early in his admin, and even during the campaign, was part of a larger narrative; “Trump is just another NYC Democrat, liberal, and it’s all a CON!”
Given his record, they have had to drop the major narrative, but have persisted with the Javanca narrative, cause unfortunately SOME fall for it.
The other problem is we humans love the melodrama, of snidely whiplash and dudley dooright.
“The World is not made up of black and white, but many shades of gray.”
The ONLY one I have seen, consistently, public ally “calling out” the Traitorous Republican/Deceptions running the Senate, has been the Great Lou Dobbs. (Other than Sundance, but I mean on the boob tube.)
Whenever Lou has Jordan, Meadows or Nunes on, he does a little rant on McConnell and Senate RepubliCONS, and invites his guest to comment.
They never do. They are all afraid of McConnell, and until HIS and their perfidy IS “Called out”, we are not “there” yet.
Now, everyone is jumping on board the notion of Russia disinfo, which perfectly sets up the Justification defence, just as Sundance predicted.
“Oh, the guy who was the “main source” for the Steele dossier, was a SUSPECTED Russian spy!”
Ergo, “it was all “Russian disinfo”, and Comey and Brennan just “fell for it”, oops.
And WHO is it that is SAYING he is a ‘SUSPECTED’ Russian spy? The FBI.
An eminently trustable source!/S
And they leak that his file shows he OFFERED some co-workers $, for classified info, years ago.
Could easily have been working FOR the FBI, to try to entrap. Stinks to high heaven, and they are continuing to reinforce the myth that Russians were behind it.
And Nunes and Jordan are repeating this, every time they are on camera.
Dutchman, I’ve seen the same even with Grenell and I come to the conclusion, ” Six ways to Sunday”. Is that the hill that they want to die on or live to fight another day?
Lest we forget what happened to Nunes, Jordan, Radcliff and others who tried to alert us of the machinations of the swamp.
Dutchman, I agree with EVERYTHING you wrote here except for the part regarding the origin of the slanders on Javanka. That (dis)honor belongs to Steve Bannon who viewed them as the ones blocking his access to PDJT.
For those who want the truth from those that remember it when it happened.
Seriously?
Cernovich if full of shit. And himself. Jim Jordan is a Wolverine firmly ensconced on the Trump Train.
Tucker called Jordan out on Google being his 2nd largest donor.
Lets face it, it takes money to win elections and conservatives have been bought by big tech. Also, notice the deep state keeps deep 6ing Trump’s executive orders on hire American and visa reform. Any deep stater that complies with these orders wouldn’t have a 6 figure plus salary at any fortune 500 company after retirement, so they are illegally disobeying these EOs without consequence. Why no consequence? HR departments and the DOJ are run by democrats.
Conservatives need to hold Rs accountable. We need to take a page from the left and surround the homes of these politicians and let them know the American people will come out on top.
These?
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/06/breaking-dni-declassifies-handwritten-notes-from-john-brennan-2016-cia-referral-on-clinton-campaigns-collusion-operation/
No, this is apparently something new. It remains to be seen if it expands on the fake Russia issue that Brennan/Clinton were concocted. Or, if it provides “nuance” and “context” defending what Brennan/Clinton were doing…shaping the messaging.
Something new? Really?
its Field Agents catching Brennens scheme ACCIDENTALLY and reporting it.
moe than just a hillary plan – it talks of the PEOPLE CAUGHT UP IN IT like:
Oleg D.
Mark W
Bill B
Ezra T. – she was contacted then manipulated Downer so he could bumble around the time.
guessing.
What’s your point, if you have one?
Time for POTUS TO REPEAL the Smith- Mund “Modernization” Act.
Reverse it with incarceration penalties , preferably 10 years per count.
a good substitute for libel law limitations.
https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/smith-mundt-modernization-act-2012
“She should be in jail”.
Good read on the Smith-Bund Act…time to do away with ANY LAW THAT OBUMMBER SIGNED INTO LAW!!!…can’t imagine the cater wallering!!!!!!
POTUS could use that act for COVID POS.
But don’t forget… if it isn’t in the NY Times it never happened.
NYT is a CIA propaganda source!!!!
NYT IS the publicity arm of the CIA
Like PRAVDA for the KGB
I am hopeful that we actually do have some patriots willing to put it all out there for PDJT and the USA. We deserve to be informed about what our highly paid politicians are doing, and all should be educated voters.
Of course, there will be cries of national security…where does this leave Haspel and Brennan?
Swinging in the wind at the end of a short rope hopefully.
I prefer a short drop and NO wind. We should be afforded the opportunity to watch TRAITORS suffer.
When they drop, your gonna WANT there to be a wind, and your gonna want to be UPWIND of the gallows,..trust me on this.
Either that, or bring a clothespin for your nose. Hangings are effective, but they ain’t pretty, and can be,…odiferous!
It leave Brennan in Guantánamo until the day he dies. He will feel right at home there with the other Muslim Prisoners.
As far as 64 year old Gina Haspel, no double she will be locked up with 72 year old Killary Clinton, who actually look like an 88 year old wino, for life..
OCTOBER 21 – KARMA
So slow Joe was in the know too…
Perhaps.
Is there a method to positively date when his dementia set in? I know, the easiest reaction is to say 5 minutes after he was first sworn into office, but realistically, what t did Joe not know and when was it first really apparent that his faculties were collapsing using medical standards?
Lansdalechip: He knew enough to bring up the Logan Act, so exactly when that was, I do not remember…
free2313:: January 5, 2017, with the cabal all in the Oval Office. I may have the exact day wrong, this is from memory, but it was just a couple of weeks till Trump’s inauguration.
Short answer = no.
Not unless you live and work with him / her up close and personally on a regular basis. Dementia generally doesn’t just happen within a narrow time period. It is gradual, so friends and close relatives of adults experiencing the onset of dementia may see infrequent behaviors that appear to be (or are often assumed to be) merely normal and age related. I saw this in my grandparents and my parents. But only my mother was actually diagnosed first with mild dementia, then later with Alzheimer’s.
Unless the individual is seeing a doctor routinely who knows how to subtly test the person and record any noticeable changes in responses, the onset might continue for several years before behavior becomes so erratic that it exceeds the previously observed “normal” variations.
G B Barie: You explained it perfectly. I saw it with my mother. She lived the last years of her life in a different time period but could carry on perfectly normal conversations with people.
Yep. Mine too…at times…
“Slow Joe was in the know too..” Absolutely…..problem is, he can’t remember anything now!
its okay WE GOT TAPES…
next TRY joe. Stupid fcks didnt realize comey was tapping them too.
Whiteboard,
Was beginning to think I had had a ’70’s flashback, so grateful you posted on this
WHY is NOBODY that I have seen, anywhere asking the obvious questions, to follow up on PDJT’s debate statement “We have the tapes”?
WHO “has” them?
WHO is ON them?
WHAT are they saying?
WHEN were they recorded, and by whom?
Are they admissable evidence, in Court?
Can they be declassified and released so the public can hear? BEFORE the election?
i think its the only REASON why Comey is screwed. cause it will piss the DEMs off also!
lets make a deal Dutchman. Lets bring this up atleast once a day until it sticks!
Being intellectually disabled, Dow that lean toward MM being a decepticon, Sundance?
Dow! does
I don’t think SD has reached any conclusion one way or another. He has looked at the evidence and concluded that there are inexplicable events in the timeline in which Meadows was involved.
There are many undetermined variables though, and IMHO it would be premature to include Meadows in the same sewer as the anti Trump Republican Senators who chaired and sat on the SSCI and the Gang of Eight (I.e., the DeceptiCONs).
Hi GB Bari, thanks for your POV. That makes sense and is reassuring.
I would have responded sooner, except I have only just been able to see replies to my comments.
God bless you,
Johnny B
Thank you Johnny B
And still no damned indictments. Secession it is, then.
Ratcliffe declassified one of the underlying documents
CIA referral to FBI
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-10/ENCLOSURE_2__DCIA_Memo_09-07-16__U.pdf
Interesting:
#3 “PER FBI REQUEST, the CIA provides below examples…
(Looks like Jim Comey REQUESTED HIS BELL BE RUNG but it was rung so hard he forgot.)
This intel seems related to Guccifer 2.0 who “hacked” the DNC
CIA had Crossfire Hurricane “FUSION CELL”
Probably Fusion GPS cell.
either way – Brennen does the CIA course 3 year 2 step.
Provide a KIND act amongst your 2 neg acts – so once caught you can reference the KIND act as neutrality.
its clear the redacted parts of part of the Carter Page Litigation (hence redacted) and the unredacted part is to KIND ACT for Brenne to refer to as neutrality(KEEEP IN MIND THEY NEVER FOLLOWED UP ON THE KIND ACT, HENCE FBI KNEW IT WAS JUST THERE AS A JUST IN CASE this gets declassified after a 2nd POTUS victory)
Brennen was CIA he is NOT A DOOF.
Exactly Brennen is not a DOOF, he knew 100% of that which he directed and contributed too.
Brennen needs a genuine Military Tribunal….
Nice one.
Point is that Crossfire Hurricane was an FBI CI investigation and CIA had a Crossfire Hurricane team assigned to assist.
The other point is that Jim Comey is the Mt. Everest of Bullshit.
Anyone, except those with TDS, and Chris Wallace, who reads #3 knows Comey’s don’t remember crap was just that, crap.
The extra-large redaction under #3 might be a reference to Seth Rich’s murder, as the paragraph above it refers to the hacking of the DNC.
Seth saw Exports on the DNC server – this was used to transport from Congress person to server to Hillary server (once caught) to Crowdstrike Server (to store for surfing) – blackfiles.
That would be interesting because according to Ty Clevenger’s lawsuit and FOIA request, the FBI has said they do not have an investigative file on the Seth Rich murder.
The DOJ also said they didn’t have exculpatory evidence on Gen. Flynn.
As was Hillary’s “I don’t recall”. It’s an oft run call in the Dem Playbook
I’d bet fusion cell = Ohr & Strzok
Why would CIA fusion cell send a memo to Stzrok if Strzok was part of it?
“This information may not be uploaded into any SIPRNET or JWICS based system, irrespective of the classification level of the system.”
Keeping info away from DIA as much as possible??
“It may not be used in any legal proceeding -including FISA applications -without prior approval, nor can it be included in any electronic database, study or briefing, or as the basis for requirements for any other asset or source, without approval of C/CIMC/LGL.”
WHO IS the C/CIMC/LGL ? they would had to approve use of this to start the RAZOR or CARTER FISAs.
WhiteBoard
C/CIMC/LGL is: C/ Chief/ CIMC/ Counter Intelligence Mission Center/
LGL/ LEGAL
omg! what is wrong with our intel agencies.
check out the sentence that says “according to open source”
OPEN SOURCE IS BULLSHT .
and Open source could be my comment right now. John Brennen is threatening to ignite a nook on wednesday.
And they open an investigation on Brennen for that Open Source Comment?
“according to open source Guccifer 2.0 is an individual or group of hackers whom US officials believe is tied to Russian intelligence services. Also per open sources, Guccifer 2.0 claimed credit for hacking the Democratic National Committee (DNC) this year”
WE NEVER TRUSTED ANYTHING FROM OPEN SOURCE after the 1972 Munich Olympics@@@@ This is downright dangerous and it put this country in harms way due to the antics of these people. ALL of them should be tried, and SHOT and buried on Gitmo…NEVER TO RETURN TO THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!….??????? I can’t put enough in there for the damage these individuals caused to this country!!!
what is wrong with our intel agencies.
Agree.
Most of their “intel” is “newpapers”.
Try reading the Mueller Report, the ECs,the FISA, or every one of the SSCI Reports…..and count the number of times the references come from news reports.
Mockingbird goes both ways.
so from Brennan’s notes, reading a bit between the lines, it would seem that Obama came up with the idea of finding any collaboration between Trump campaign and Russia, in a bid to further HRC’s plan to vilify Trump.
Obama didnt ask Brennan to find evidence that Hillary made up the whole thing; he asked him to find anything to support her plan.
Bingo!
Sid Viscious! Blumenthal.
This would be a guy that WOULD PISS Obama off. he demanded this guy be NO WHERE NEAR him if she was SOS.
Is there anyone in Trump’s inner circle that can be trusted?
Melania.
Well that’s just sad. Pres. Trump needs Sundance as his Chief of Staff!
I wonder the same thing! I trust Ric Grenell but have my suspicions about SO many others, including Pence, Meadows, Javanka…
I don’t know. I like Meadows. But, if the answer is “No”, and Barr doesn’t come through, then I’m seriously supporting secession. As of today, we DO NOT have a legitimate government in DC. It’s illegal. It has violated the Constitution and is an illegally constituted government. Period.
Me and You – because POTUS talks DIRECTLY to the People – he doesnt hold secrets.
he TRUST US! loves seeing US. Feeds of of US. Reads our POST. EVERYONE OF THEM!
Not only does he trust us, POTUS is counting on us
Maria: “What are you going to do about it?”
JJ: “ Blah blah blah blah blah blah and I keep saying this, blah blah blah for the American people”
Sorry but Jim Jordan is a useless POS.
Baby Hurley, I did notice JJ did NOT answer Maria’s question; beginning to lose faith in JJ.
And that would be a mistake.
At some point Republicans need to say that the voter fraud is unacceptable and they are prepared to call people to war over this. Period.
Until RepubliRats take over the House from PelosiCrats ‘Blah, blah, blah…..’ is all they can do. Until then all RepubliRats are ‘useless’.
And about Mitch, Mitch has come through on everything that was critical. The filling of Trump admin positions has not slowed down Trump one iota. Remember, DC is virtually all $politics. Real advancement has to be snuck in through the side door.
MVW,
Mitch has been consistent, in UNDERMINING PDJT at every turn.
Damphone actually clicked “like” instead of “reply”, just so you know, not sure how to undo a like.
NO, Mitch has been PDJT’s most implacable enemy, from day one.
He and his crony hacks like Cornyn and Graham flunk the Ghomert test;
At the end of his op-ed on Mueller, in which he recounts Mueller’s resume in most accurate and therefore unflattering terms, Rep. L. Ghomert says, basically, ALL this was known, prior to Mueller even being appointed Special Council.
Therefore, the only test you need, for members of Congress, is to see if they are on record, and on tape, saying “Mueller is an HONORABLE man, his investigation MUST continue!”
If so, they are a snake Rino. And it was “Sing along with Mitch”, as he led the chorus.
Knowing what we know NOW about Mueller, the Ghomert test has only grown in reliability and relevance, and as an accurate test.
In addition, look at those calling for FISA renewal, without debate or discussion, as a second test,…and again Mitch leads the chorus.
He is a snake, a CONmunist, a GLOBALIST and a traitor. The coup cound NEVER have got beyond the planning stages, without the small group knowing he and Ryan were “on board”.
Mitch hasn’t “come thru” on ANYTHING that was critical! HE undermined the repeal/replace Obamacare effort, and if McStain had been too sick to throw the thumbs down, McConnell had Flake warming up in the bullpen.
That anyone could pen a defence of Mitch, makes me want to PUKE. Next, you’ll be praising Graham, fer cripes sake!
What’s Congress going to do? This is an Executive Branch problem. It’s not Jordan’s fault Barr is a POS.
Over the years, Jordan has shown himself to be all talk and no action — activity is no substitute for accomplishment (being a full-time vocal critic may be entertaining to some, but it’s hardly something that betters life for the American people or the people of his district). It’s a pretty low bar when all you’re good for is to be a guest on Hannity — yawn!
Disagree. It is a bit frustrating to listen to Maria demand action from a House Rep who has absolutely no power in the 116th Congress to enact any rules or even to get legislation to be voted upon.
I’m equally disappointed to read all these complaints about Jordan from Treepers who ought to know recent history. Jordan didn’t lose the House in 2018, Paul Ryan and his cronies did, along with the 40 some odd Republicans who gave up and quit.
Once Pelosi’s CommieCrats took over, Jordan has even less authority (like, zero) than he did under Paul Lyin’ Ryan to control House actions other than within his committee.
What Jordan can do is talk about and expose the problems and corruption whenever he gets a microphone and or a camera on him. He has also been pretty pointed in congressional hearings in which he had time to question officials.
This is true…
Well this isn’t good news, the President seems to trust Mark Meadows or is this a case of keeping your enemies close.
Not Trump’s first rodeo. He’s run mulitbillion dollar companies, so knows how people work. They are who they are. They don’t change. So you select members of your team for what they bring to the party. Meadows a leaker? You choose him for that characteristic, knowing that there will be times when it will be a negative rather than a positive, and that just comes with the territory. Hiring major badass muscle to cover your back? Then just understand there will be times you will have to go bail them out because they tore up a bar on their night off.
And YOU Mr Trapper have hit the nail on the head square…That IS EXACTLY what SUCCESSFUL business men do, esp working around the squalor of NY Pols!!! and Unions!!!!
If Trump wanted to hype up the China virus drama, such a leak would be necessary. This is election politics. Second guessing how it all plays out would take a conjurer.
If Mark Meadows is leaking anything it was with Trump’s approval.
“If Mark Meadows is leaking anything it was with Trump’s approval.”
I’m inclined to agree, unless/until proven otherwise.
Prayers for POTUS!!!
Trump loves a good “leak” he always did!!!
Ratcliffe Declassifies Docs Revealing Brennan Briefed Barack Obama on Hillary Clinton’s Plan to ‘Stir Up’ a Scandal Between Trump, Russia
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/ratcliffe-declassifies-docs-revealing-brennan-briefed-barack-obama-hillary-clintons-plan-stir-scandal-trump-russia/
I wonder if Moocholini Obamboozler thinks this smear campaign against Trump is immoral ?
Of course not, because communists don’t recognize the concept of morality, except as a brickbat to throw at their enemies.
I do not know enough about Meadows to be certain of his ultimate intentions. BUT, if he is helping to get critical information out, I’ll take it! AG Barr said in an interview months ago that yes, the public DOES need to know what actually happened re: Spygate and the coup, but he’s done nothing overtly to inform people. He gets credit for Jensen, but absent anything tangible that the MSM can’t ignore, way too many people believe Trump was elected with Russia’s assistance. At this late date, ANY snowball we can roll down the hill seems like a good thing to me.
I’ll take it, too. The truth is the truth no matter what fool says it.
We don’t need Barr to tell us a story, we need coup conspirators prosecuted. He’s extremely adverse to even speaking the word “prosecution”, just that “the American people need to know what happened”.
But the opening article reinforces what the Dems have always maintained: Russia was tempering w3ith our election to favor Trump. Russia disinformation was feed to Steele. Russia! Russia! Russia! , and what is that photo of Tom Bash doing in the picture?
Paging Sundance……….
What does Crossfire Hurricane FUSION CELL mean?
These words, FUSION CELL have never been mentioned before that I recall.
Do these words tie back in some way possibly to that dual path you suggested where an FIB Agent is also a CIA Agent so kind of like fusing of the two agencies or maybe two parallel Crossfire Hurricane tracks with one going on in the FIB and one goin on in the C_A?
Looking forward to your thoughts on this.
The fusion centers are Non Government entities such as Fusion GPS, Crowdstrike and Boze Allen. I understand there are 12 others.
Their excuse for access to the NSA database is to assist the FBI, DOJ, CIA and others in finding information in that database.
However, I think we will find they were researching and selling information to the highest bidders such as Hillary and Soros.
Thank you for that info.
And with that and the fact Barr knows unequivocally that from a 6 month audit by Adm Rodgers that 85% of the NSA Contractor 702 searches done were illegal, how does Barr not demand a full and complete audit/damage assessment to fully understand the extent of this NSA Contractor illegalities.
Would not Illegal Spying via FIB computers by NSA Contractors not be considered a NATIONAL SECURITY BREACH.
Seriously, why does Barr have zero interest in these illegal actions?
I thought he oozed one system of justice.
Because DOJ is still using information in that database to pursue real cases, like the human trafficking rings they are busting. He will NOT give that up.
Your answer is not entirely accurate. Fusion Center is also commonly used term inside many government agencies, law enforcement and the military. See below.
Fusion Cell is a common INTEL term, used across the community, law enforcement and military. It is a “joint” organizations that functions just as the name says FUSION CELL as in Fusion of data, intel, reports et al into actionable material(s) used to support decision making..
So this supports the Sundance theory that Stzrok might have been both FIB and CIA.
And is that legal if that is the case?
I didn’t understand that to be just a theory. I thought Stzrok’s double agency status was s known fact. I’ll look for a reference.
Exactly. He may not have been a CIA employee but part of a “joint” Fusion Cell involving FBI and CIA.
It is legal and necessity given the CIA can arrest nobody and the FBI participation adds the law enforcement element to any efforts.
The next question is if the effort being supported by this Fusion Cell was legal? It appears the effort being supported was not legal. Always need to ask multiple questions in these cases as the organization itself exists legally but it its activities may NOT be legal. This is the obfuscation game bearueacrats like to play by blurring the discussion between legitimacy to exist vs was the entity actually operating legally. Two different questions with different implications.
it’s not just that CIA can not enforce the law in the US (or elsewhere).
It is that they cannot perform operations (ie espionage) on American soil. FBI can do so using constitutionally-limited tools. (like FISA haha)
If it was legal they wouldn’t be fighting so hard to keep it a secret…
Only if the Brit, Auzzie, and Italian IC is sandwiched into the Fusion Cell…then it is too classified for anyone to know, and therefore legal. You see, the IC or “five-eyes” is more important than the American people’s right to know in a coup. Hence the redactions.
Gina musta been a good chap with Boris whilst he was Foreign Minister….
Strozk was the interface between CIA and FBI….. He was Chief of Counterespionage Group… actual document showing his position….
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/bombshell-peter-strzok-was-cia-and-fbi-at-the-same-time/
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Thank you!
My daily goal of learning something new has been met.
The fusion cell/center is set up so that different organizations can have representation for a common goal/ mission/ desired end state. For example you can have federal, state and local law enforcement all together in a cell to share information and intelligence (not the same) in order to provide a more robust picture of the operational environment and provide intelligence and targeting information to a Case/Action/Targeting Officer. That “Action Officer” then uses that information to advise/create target lists to present to a targeting board. That board is made up of senior leaders of the organizations represented in the fusion cell/center. That information could be for a kinetic operation, Information operation or further intelligence operations depending on the mission statement/desired end state of the commander/leader ,,,
Sundance has discussed Fusion GPS in many earlier articles. Many dozens, maybe more.
Go to the home page, it has a search bar, put Fusion in there and have fun.
For today, just think of Fusion GPS as a Clinton paid political dirt collector.
There are “Intel” fusion cells that pull together assets and brains from an array of federal departments. Look at JIATF structures to get an idea. That said, my understanding is THIS cell included info from HAMR.
John Brennan has discussed “Fusion Cell” multiple times over the past three years. Here are excerpts of transcripts of three of those interviews.
John Brennan Discuss Fusion Cell — PBS FrontLine Show July 27, 2017
Well, before I briefed the president, and I had extended discussions with individuals inside of CIA, inside of CIA we have FBI agents who are working cheek-to-jowl as part of the counterintelligence effort. These are people who really look at every bit of information, every bit of data. I think that they had confidence, first, before anybody, because they were swimming in the data. … I decided that we were going to establish a fusion cell inside of CIA that was going to have NSA and FBI there, and I wanted people to be able to share as much as they could among each other. That fusion cell, that kept me very much informed and was used to inform others.
John Brennan Discusses “Fusion Cell” MSNBC. 5-18-18
I think the FBI was sharing information with us, with CIA, with NSA. But they had their own
law enforcement investigation underway that I think was paralleling what the intelligence
community was doing. I created a fusion cell at CIA bringing in FBI and NSA agents and officers so that there would be this collective effort to try to make sure that none of these proverbial dots were not going to be connected. And having the best chance to do that.
John Brennan Discusses “Fusion Center” on Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC 8-18-18
We put together a fusion center at CIA that brought NSA and FBI officers together with CIA to make sure that those proverbial dots would be connected.
As per the replies above it is an intelligence thing, specifically it was Brennan`s baby, presented as a totally new concept, though in fact as stated by others it is a well worn technique.
What was new however was said fusion cells being used in the particular fashion they have been used for since the last election and the addition of some unusual personnel to the teams that would not normally be combined.
So firstly the new use was to target solely the population/society of the US with weapons grade psychological de-stabilisation methods, not just influence ops but mental carnage operations if that makes any sense.
All designed to make peoples minds more malleable, left, right, man, woman, mad or sad, all irrelevant, it was the increase in mental pliability via de-stabilisation that seems to of been the ultimate goal.
Secondly the extra personnel, public and private bods, so the alphabets with the media and non intel government types with lashings of contractors, all of whom had been given direct unfiltered legally or morally access to the NSA database and Obama`s private blackmail database ( much the same thing ).
Add to that the secret sauce of having the IO ( Information Operation ) this time around being designed by the rendition mental torturers and other highly trained psychological interrogators and voila we are where we are now.
Left and right, middle even, being pulled mentally in all directions, anchors torn away, icons reduced to echoes of what once was or may have been, blend in the virus ( they were getting desperate as not enough people where losing their minds it seems ) and then let it be consumed by an unwitting populace.
With that I give you 2020, which in any other time would mean seeing clearly, currently though for most of the people alive that is the opposite of what they are experiencing.
Well said, IO is a real thing and no joke!
IIRC, there was talk that Brennan had organized a multi agency fusion cell of at CIA headquarters to “investigate” Trump/Russia collusion.
I trust your judgement unequivocally, Sundance.
This is crazy, is Melania part of the plot too? This kind of thinking leads to mental illness, don’t let it do to our side what it has done to the left.
What? Who inferred that Melania was part of the plot?
Meadows is a politician and leaking is what politicians do. It does serve to keep the dem corruption narrative alive.
Now if only we could get some real criminals nailed. Guess we’ll have to wait until after the election …
just released Brennan notes….
Brennan Notes and CIA Memo a 10 Megaton Bomb in middle of the campaign. Not Russian Disinfo — Obama Admin knew 2016 chatter about Trump-Russia collusion was Clinton campaign “Plan”.
That being the case why have a counter intelligence investigation and get FISA warrants against Carter Page to spy when they already knew it was all a scam being run by Hillary?
How does Hilliary get the FBI and CIA to assist her in the scam including all the MSM media?
And why all this trouble to involve the three letter agencies?
Hmmm…. Oh yes an, email server in Hillary’s closet that had emails from Obama to/from and all the Clinton Foundation business of brirbery and extortion….and illegal spying since 2009. The Chicago Way.
This is the real conspiracy with Brennan’s actual hand written notes of meeting with Obama to prove it.
Any easy way to explain to an unformed person….
They never thought she’s lose.
Crossfire/Hurricane??? You’re adding a whole new dimension but it makes sense why FBI doesn’t want to turn over Weiner laptop, wiped files, alleged DNC hack and Seth Rich murder, Mueller, taxes, covid(?). Throwing everything in their arsenal at PDJT.
uninformed
President Trump is as tough as a boiled owl – Vote – Plead with everyone you cross paths with to either vote for Trump or at least don’t vote for Biden.
Paul- today Mark Steyn was in for Rush and it was one of his best shows ever.
Mark made the point that if each of Rush’s listeners could persuade just ONE undecided person to vote for our President Trump, he would win the election in a landslide.
Say no more.
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There are WAY more Rush listeners than there are undecided voters. Those waiting to be paid at the polls excepted.
Absolutely agree, per True The Vote, only 1 in 4 peeps r registered to vote…
If we don’t give the Trumpster a hack-proof landslide re-election victory on November 3, then we all deserve to be conquered by the chicoms and their domestic commie allies.
“A republic, madam, if you can keep it.”
trump2016- I don’t know about “deserving” the destruction of our Republic, but hopefully we are all working as hard as we can and doing everything in our power to assure the re-election of our magnificent President Trump.
Boiled owl?
Never heard that expression before!
Better than deep fried, braised or baked?
We have to hope that Rocky Guerra and Kanye West are certainly going to take votes away from Biden./Harris. No way would they be taking them from Trump, judging from all the young people in the 3 spontaneous rally-for-Trump scenes we saw over the weekend.
“While fixing WP, it would sure be nice if when we reply, our reply would be close to the message we are replying to. Out-of-context is a pain in the patutee.
C’mon Mel,
It adds to the adventure of traveling the misinformation superhighway. I feel lucky if my comments just post.
Well, you have a good point, David. I was just ticked because my comment was made irrelevant , which is sometimes more maddening than not getting published at all.
Just trying to lighten things up a little. Stress is hard on the immune system. Take care.
I’ve always thought Maria was the go to for the news primmer of the coming week but maybe it for far different reasons that I thought. As for Meadows his wife was a Trump fan and he wasn’t. Trump asked him to join him so I’m not sure he all bad. Now in a new light people that get into this spotlight seem to show their true colors quickly.
And to think with this revelation coming out, Huber after a couple of years couldn’t find crap.
And now Bash calls it quits after 4 months and in the middle of his investigation.
Whose next to come up empty or quit? Durham?
” Put it all together and I will wager you a considerable sum that Mark Meadows is now Bartiromo’s source.”
It’s too bad Bartiromo can’t issue indictments.
Maria has more stones than the entire stinking herd of Congressional RINOs.
WOW, Jordan dodged when Maria pointed to Gina Haspel. So whats going on here? We keep seeing this. Grenell did it the other day. They keep shifting when Maria points to Haspel they quickly divert …. is she ‘co-operating’ or being protected?
Something going on big time. I nailed her years ago as being a pivotal pawn in this game. She played an important role in the coup attempt.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cia-director-haspel-and-anti-trump-conspirators
Since her resume info is no secret to the Administration, why would President Trump leave her in place if she was complicit rather than her being manipulated / deceived by Brennan’s team? ‘Testify to Grand Jury, or be a target’, said in the most diplomatic agency manner?
Could this mean the recent press attack ‘leaks’ on her for ‘holding back’ might be a smokescreen? Do you think she flipped (with no admission of guilt) and providing evidence? Just Hopium?; or human nature and survival?
I don’t see her as a White Hat, rather, playing the game to slip the noose.
BTW: Who ran Halper?
I don’t recall The Donald throwing any shade at Gina….perhaps I missed that
If they where in the shadows they would be much harder to track and near impossible to eventually catch in the act and prosecute.
Give them the reins though, let them over extend themselves, feel secure in the success of their plans and more importantly act in an ongoing corrupt daily exercise of their power respectively and then you may have an extremely strong case for catching them stone cold in the act, recorded in their own hand writing.
Termination in one fashion or another becomes far more likely in those latter circumstances I would venture than the former.
Also whilst Halper was paid out of the Pentagon ( and almost certainly by others ) he principally ran with the Cambridge spy lot, so realistically Russia of all places was probably ultimately running Halper, least through the 80’s till the naughts, then all the spook agencies of the world kind of morph into one of the branches of the globalist scum attempting to destroy the world.
Non granular answer that so I apologise.
Regarding Haspel she would of without doubt been a string puller for Halper, certainly whilst he was in the UK I would say, indirectly I would imagine as face to face would of just been stupid.
As to her character, unless I`am mistaken it was she who presented your POTUS with fake arse pictures of the Skripel poisonings in the UK in an attempt to get Trump to wade into the mire/get caught in the web of the Russia, Russia, Russia IO.
So she in effect/practice tried to psy op him and his advisors ( Ivanka in particular I would venture) with carefully selected images and I do not believe for one moment they bought it and she revealed herself then and there to them.
On a related sidenote, curious thing about all the Trump hosted meetings I have ever heard described is that there is always a big ass mirror in the room, curious other thing is that when the other side of meeting is leaving afterwards, often if not always one of the other Trumps is seen appearing nearby.
Combine that with who Trumps mentor was and I would bet ya that they are in the room next door analysing all the others on the otherside of the mirror, body language can tell you an incredible amount of information let alone the value in a third perspective like that just in general.
That is a bit out there I know but man alive the Trumps do seem to be very well informed evinced by how your President seems to magically ( I know it is mostly skill ) repel every attack, usually entrapping his opponent in the process.
Extremely interesting observations and perspective, SP!
The president not only “left her in place” he promoted her to head the CIA.
No one wants to be Ginacided. She looks like she would have no trouble doing it.
That is it. The wicked witch of the swamp
Nobody is going to jail. All of these documents mean nothing if they are not used as evidence against_______________________(Fill in the blank).
If you are waiting to celebrate Hillary being frog marched in handcuffs off to jail, don’t rent the hall yet.
I’ll settle for her complete and utter humiliation.
Not me. I’d like to see her twitching on the end of a rope
I…………says: I fear the declassification means that the President no longer has any confidence in and is no longer paying any attention to Barr and company.
Wow . I’m not going to second guess anything Sundance is inferring about Meadows as he is the master of the rabbit hole that is spy gate . My only question is why even give any crumbs or controlled info , if your motive is to protect someone in the deep state , wouldn’t it make sense simply to just spread disinformation or just obstruct altogether ? I do see how Durham could be waiting on the politics to play out , but even this declass is a pretty big deal compared to absolutely zero from Durham and Barr . I think .
IMO the Barr/Durham Investigation will go down in history as the greatest investigative failure of all time.
Acorns everywhere but they couldn’t seem to pick one up.
handgrenades everywhere with pins pulled…a 500 acre garden of pulled grenades.
you can either grab one and toss it back to the enemy…or just walk past the danger.
here’s the reality..one none of us have fully digested.
there is no pressure on barr to act on these grenades. none. .the can sit and go undisturbed and nothing happens to Barr…nothing happens to the institutions as it were.
we have this.righteous fantasy that DOJ AG will or should act when evidence of a provable crime is determined. and this is the correct view…its the very reason that DOJ exists in our 3 branch of co equal power state.
but as we are also aware…the POWER to bring prosecution rests solely and exclusively with AG.
so he will silently walk past the garden of grenades…he knows as long as they are not disturbed they will just sit there.
but HIS.FULL KNOWLEDGE of this grenade garden is powerful leverage. he and he alone can use that knowledge to manipulate many issues that he desires a specific path. and he will do just that.
he will use this power to compel Congress to give his institutuons enormous new and enhanced powers. specifically spy powers…and he will get.them.
now…here is where that ultimate corrupt plan “can be” destroyed.
declassify.everything…now.
fire.him and wray and get real troopers installed.
my personal choice is a military officer who can shred the DOJ and FBI and actually perform a mission with sn outcome in a swift and just velocity… one proportional to this high crime and coup.
if this does not.happen…i can guarantee none of.these criminals will ever feel nervous…never go to trial… and worse… any.notion that 4th rights are restored and protected and that rule of law and order is respected… lost forever…we will.be.the.last.generstion of.americans.who experienced it.
what happens in.these.short weeks will alter the destiny of everyone and everywhere.
these are perilous times.
stay frosty
The only kink in your plan is finding a loyal and truly patriotic military officer who has NOT been corrupted/ brainwashed with Ozero’s dark motives disguised as “social justice”, etc.
Thanks to the incredible work of Sundance, we have know the most intricate details of Spygate these past several years. I don’t know about the rest of you, but it’s a miracle I haven’t had a stroke by now after some of the stuff that I’ve read here. We’re talking actual treason and sedition as well as a documented Coup that has resulted in the current civil war.
From where I’m working on the ground game, trying to turn undecided voters to our President Trump, it doesn’t look like this is an important campaign issue for most people at this time. Even the more informed voter has a limited attention span.
I totally agree with Tom Lifson who says that ultimately this election is going to be won or lost on the Corona lockdowns and re-opening of the economy. For those of you who don’t live in a gulag state like NY, you have no idea how bad it still is.
“Sacrificing the economy, the education of our children, and our collective mental health for the purported purpose of slowing the spread of a disease that is survived by more than 99% of those under 70 who contract it is no longer tolerable, and President Trump is waging his presidential campaign on ending the madness”
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/the_final_four_weeks_of_the_campaign_will_be_fought_over_reopening_the_economy.html
Wisconsin Gov Tony “Low T” Evers just instituted a 25% of capacity rule for public places in time to instill more fear before the election. Evers is asshoe.
this is directionally helpful BUT still not nough.Nowhere near enough.
we know from Wiki leaks that HRC campaign determined their strategy to link Trump/Putin was established in Dec 2015.
We NOW know that HRC decided to formally execute that plan on July 26th 2016 , aided by a willing FBI.(Strozk)
But from YE 2015 to July the SEEDS of collusion were planted>
OCCUNUS Lures (Strozk text)> Mifsud/Downer(both Clinton Foundation members)
Ukraine help(Chalupa/CIA > Manafort hits)
Alfa Bank hoax(Jean Camp ? Clinton Donor)
Gucifer 2.0(probably CIA Marble tool or Crowdstrike…there is no Gucifer 2.0 ,,,he is a myth…there was NO Russia hack of the DNC).
FGPS work (Don Jr set up + Steele dossier crap> a cut out/dustbin).
All the pieces were put in place for HRC to flip the switch to GO and take out Trump and his 70 M supporters in 1H16.( very advantageously supported by the Seth Rich drop to Wiki in June 2016).
But who organized it all ? This is a RICO case for sure.
Thousands involved I think , willingly and unwillingly both.
and when it failed…COVER UP time (GET FLYNN at all cost before he uncovers it all and creates chaos).
My head keeps catching on the OCONUS Lures as a key.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/04/11/devin-nunes-the-spying-began-in-2015/
Have a hard time placing it with all the other relevant items in the timeline, but they set up lures before there was a subject to an investigation. Then they decided to attack on their weakness and blame their own Russian Collusion and email misuse on Team Trump.
What was the claimed predicate? Oh, you don’t need one for Counterintell???
My bit on the Brennan briefing to obozo? After oboe knew of The Hellery Plot, he authorized Obama for(sic) America to pay some $900k to Perkins Coie, the funders / originators of the Steele Dossier and The Hellery Plot
“Hey, Brennan,let ME in on some of that action!”
First we F Flynn, then we F Trump!!! Bias ___ / No Bias___ ???
?
It looks like there were competing operations going on. Everyone was scamming everyone else.
The FBI was investigating every viable candidate including HRC starting from 2015. The predicate for that may actually be ‘legal’ in that involves national security and the FBI traditionally has investigated numerous applications to key positions. Like a clearance check but maybe more invasive.
Of course the methods they used to investigate were probably illegal and the uses for their investigations were probably for blackmail purposes but hey nobody’s perfect.
Then you have the Hillary campaign trying to get an investigation into Trump campaign, to be conducted by FBI and whoever else wanted to join in.
Then you have Obama pushing to get Brennan get the FBI to investigate Trump on behalf of HRC.
There were probably more investigations going on and somehow Strzok was the point man/ moronic fall guy for all of them.
To All CTH Researchers.
Name the 3-5 documents we need released to KILL THE COUP. (Let’s narrow it and start saturating all social media with it)
here are my list based off of EVERYONE’s comments over 3 years.
1) october SCOPE memo RR gave to Mueller
2) January 2017 Crossfire Hurricane interview of Igor Danchenko (noted in May 2017 WFO FBI interview – see imagelink below)
3) ____________________ (any thoughts?)
-Footnoted 69 (improper access granted to whom; and comeys memo)
-Carter Page email to Comey in Sept 2016?
– Crowdstrike 2015 contract
….?
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/who-ran-the-doj-really%3F
to kill the coup you need Durham to straight out say…
we have proof from depositions/foresnic analysis that Russia did not hack the DNC e-mails.
They were expropriated by (XXX> US Intel/Crowdstrike) on behalf of HRC in order to support a prepared smear plan against POTUS Trump in the knowledge that his campaign was a clear threat to her ambitions to be President.
This smear operation was known to Strozk et al , who used it to execute the insurance policy campaign that followed , including the Mueller investigation.
This morning we have indicted and arrested the following US persons for treason and sedition + fraud against the American people
Or Durham could simply depose Assange and have him show who/how Wikileaks got the DNC emails.
I guess interviewing a first hand fact witness is to hard.
By the way is anyone going to ask Barr and Durham what they got off Mifsud’s 2 phones that they personally went to Italy to retrieve?
looks good on paper.
now here is the reality.
assange isnt going to certify any attribution.
its antithetical to his values. principles..security.
see here is the deal.. pay close attention.
when the so called press sez they will not compromise a source… what they really mean is that they want to protect their ability to narrate whatever filth they desire to indoctrinate…its not a fear of harm to a source…its a fear of being exposed for being fake news…
now with wikilesks…the gold standard of publication and journalistic integrity… THE MATERIAL ITSELF IS FALSIFIABLE.
read that again and let it sink in.
the material record itself is incontrivertible fact!!
assange is only a publisher…a figure head so to speak…the face…the person who draws attention to a website wikikeaks…and he’s quite the charismstic genius…he knows how to get attention…this raw data doesn’t sell itself unless you can get people interested enough first to go read it. assange gives WikiLeaks it’s branding and marketing label. necessary… important and very well done.
now lets closely understand what is at stake when “you invite” the argument that declaring a source would be helpful..
that actually DESTROYS the very principles of what WikiLeaks is.n.
its NOT about who leaked… the messenger is not important…the material IS FALSIFIABLE period. even assange would not want to know the source..it would create a disaster for not only opsec…but it opens to door to speculation and controversy
about political Dynamics and interests.
that is NOT the purpose of WL. it would allow the media AND THE CORRUPTORS to distract away from the fact material.
there are other reasons also not to go down that road.
1. WL would never exist or any other like it. why would anyone dare bor have the courage to leak if they see how things ultimately doom them… AND the message gets lost!!! yes it sounds similar to the MSM argument doesn’t it. it isn’t!!! MSM does NOT deal in actual FALSIFIABLE material…they deal in pure manure doped in toxic misinformarion…the contrast must be illustrated again and again.. and hammered home. WL exists because the media is corrupt!!!
2. assange is facing criminal charges… and probably by her majesty too. it would NOT be legally intelligent for him to name a source and thus trigger a serious indictment and co intel project against every single person and 1000 hops included… it’s important to understand that there are MANY people who ARE WikiLeaks. the moment you point a finger and say name…even hint at it, you put targets on many backs. assange is many things…but he is not a saboteur against the instruments of wikikeaks.
3. arguably… the corruptors are left DEFENDING the ridiculous claims of attribution that literally no one… and i mean no one of skilk has ever accepted… strategically and justly and wisely WE cannot allow these corrupt IC agencies and the corruptors who financed this fraud any space or movement… the PRESSURE must be on their necks…you said it was this… you’ve never proven that…ever… THAT needs to be the hammer…not asking assange to prove them wrong… they must prove they are right…
in principle this is where rule of law has broken down at the highest levels of main govt.
they have not PROVEN a CRIME.
and THAT is precisely one of the reasons that WL EXISTS TO PUBLISH… to show it… unsalted…raw… FALSIFIABLE Proof these are corrupt people who invent “facts” and then manage a political theater to push the fraud.
no.. WL is about showing a deeper level of corruption criminal nconduct and fraud.
we don’t need to know the source of the leak… the evidence of the material is the object… what THAT material SHOWS is the point.
if you really desire to have any kind of refutation and justice for main governments who are corrupt…the answer is demanding their removal and replacing them with moral and ethical people.
one way to do that is by pressuring them to prove with harder criteria and questions why their prior”work” is not credible.
no on naming sources
respectfully… it’s antithetical to the greater causes.
> This morning we have indicted and arrested the following
This is the ONLY thing that matters. It’s the only thing that will get public attention. Barr knows it, and he doesn’t do it. Forget his unctuous words, his actions are completely aligned with the Democrat’s narrative.
sadly, factually, proven, this includes MANY Republicans.
it bears repeating…the common interest…the one that draws these corruptors together as one
the ring that binds them all
its they secret police spy powers.
they do not understand that no human can wield that kind of power.
ultimately that power is absolutely corruptible.
no one…no one gets out the door alive.
these powers must be destroyed.
to peform that and realize it will require a victory of war.
we are battling the very remote edges of that war…with hope and prayer it is in our best interests..all .to have that war over the ring …
sentencing hundreds for their participation in using those powers for treason and usurping a legitimately elected president begins that war.
one has to understand how this processes.
one does not merely walk into mordor.
Julian Assange testimony regarding Seth Rich and the fact that NO ONE hacked the DNC website…it all falls apart at that point, IMHO!!
The FISA application put together by Sally Moyer.
It does not matter who the source is. There are major crimes committed against the Republic. According to Lou Dobbs, recently declassified notes indicates Brennan was the ring leader and he conferred with Obama and Biden.
So President Trump has a decision to make. Does he bring in Durham/Barr-zini to make a statement or have them issue indictments on the people involved. If he does nothing, Biden the traitor has a chance to become President of the US.
lambgraham: Brennan has always been my pick for the main facilitator of the coup.
brennan found allah long ago in SA.
follow the death cult worship of islam as taught in SA during that period (spoiler: wahhabism) and you will learn what kind of purpose brennan has on his agenda. Islam is taught in many styles…but one single core object is a complete rejection of any that do not pledge to allah…its a death cult.)
now do you understand why cia from the top was bent on taking LTGEN Flynn down.
folks…i implore you to understand in the most crystal open eyes…their IS a war going on…and Satan has invested fully in bankrolling islam…and it’s working.
even without china flu..SA has been dumping cheap oil and killing the fundamental economic engine of the US and all other western non Islamic states.
that was no simple economic decision.
we really need to pay attention to that growing threat.
.pandemic..a government in crisis..divided nation… godless.. weak congress.
if I’m islam .. I see a huge opportunity. its coming. stay frosty patriots…
me thinks politico and a small group of the msm bottom feeders are feeding our great sundance a plausible but corrosive narrative regarding our Mark Meadows, I ain’t buying it. declass results today, thank you President Trump, MM and JJ, MAGA!!!!
Methinks what you don’t know or understand about Sundance is a lot.
Politico? MSM? Those are proven liars and fictitious narrative echo chambers.
I have never seen Sundance use lies from MSM narratives to form opinions of facts.
He pulls from only verified evidence/ facts.
Look up politico’s recent hit piece on m meadows, same narrative sundance is exploring here. There’s gotta be a little more meat on that pizza. Spidey sense works both ways.
I read it.
Unimpressed, especially since the author is Tim Alberta, a virulent if not somewhat velvet tongued hater of President Donald Trump.
Let’s take a paragraph from an August hit piece on the GOP all because of Trump…..
“ It can now safely be said, as his first term in the White House draws toward closure, that Donald Trump’s party is the very definition of a cult of personality. It stands for no special ideal. It possesses no organizing principle. It represents no detailed vision for governing. Filling the vacuum is a lazy, identity-based populism that draws from that lowest common denominator Sanford alluded to. If it agitates the base, if it lights up a Fox News chyron, if it serves to alienate sturdy real Americans from delicate coastal elites, then it’s got a place in the Grand Old Party.”
In the interest of conserving column space, I’ll refrain from pasting equally bad smears against the President or other Republicans.
The attack on Meadows is certainly obvious to me as yet another thinly disguised attempt by the Left to create division, doubt and suspicion within the Presidents close circle. I’ll let the President be the judge of his staff. Meadows is a politician. They all have some past actions that we can look back on criticize one way or another. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re a covert threat.
Looks like a coup by the administration leaving power. What will be done with these traitors?
Honesty, or Hemp.
Is it possible Meadows’ “comments” are being made with a wink and nod from higher up?
CIA, FBI, and HRC are all implicated in the released documents.
If Meadows has an agenda to protect an institution(s) or individual(s), it doesn’t look to me as if he protecting any of those three, so who is being protected by this release of a these heavily redacted
documents? The answer is redacted.
So what I’d like to know is WHEN are Obama and conspiracy pals going to be arrested? Surely an attempt to completely control the outcome of an election is a (treasonous) act? IF it isn’t, would blowing up the capital qualify? I only ask to determine limits.
So many axes to grind from people who should be on the same team…and so little time. Sad.
Meadows is currently White House Chief of Staff. Hand picked by President Trump.
Trump trusts the guy implicitly. If he didn’t, he would be gone yesterday.
i feel its implying Meadows is POTUS’s strategy… negotiating TRUCES after hints of WAR is a good strategy.
Plus the meadows leak on POTUS’s health pissed me off at first, but later i saw it as adding GRAVITY and MEAT for the media, so that when he recovered it was a BIGGER SHARPER V.
looking back – we all know he ONLY WENT because of testing pos and a temp and oxy reading. normal people feel it and are done in hours tops. He was adviced to not risk it, so it turned it into a SHOW. Or he fought the DEADLY virus and STUNNED us again as if GOD is LITERALLY watching over our Living Prayer.
L4grasshopper,
Cannot say that President Trump trusts the guy implicitly.. However, Mark Meadows is the person for the job that needs to be accomplished now. What the entire job is, I am clueless. I will watch, listen and hopefully learn in time.
If you want ABC, CBS and NBC to run coverage on this, come up with indictments from DOJ.
Oh the MSM will likely cover indictments only as “obvious” politically-motivated obstruction of justice and grounds for more impeachment.
Don’t EVER think or expect that the MSM will fairly or honestly cover any anti-swamp activities.
Eyewash.
See Adam Housley tweets.Alec
Ok so where is the discussion topic……
So what did Obama do?
1) Isn’t the most natural thing to do is pick up the phone and query Hillary if true and if so ask why because this could destroy her Presidential race if it came out before the election or the Russian could use as blackmail after the election if she won.
Or
2) Do nothing because maybe you already knew this was Underway?
And finally post the election and after PT is clearly the winner, didn’t Obama have an obligation to bring this up to PT? Otherwise it means he knew about this fraud all along and allowed it to consume a duly elected President.
How is that for character?
Why is no one asking these questions and better yet does AG Barr and Durham have the balls to now question Obama directly?
Who in the FBI investigated? File?
This info blast did not end with that briefing…
At this point, as to any “drops”– this is me (the 3rd one)…
B/c none of it ever results in any ACCOUNTABILITY!
This is the best comment of the day. Kinda reminds me of the old joke, what is the difference between your girlfriend, a hooker and your wife? Your girlfriend says “are you already through?”, the hooker says “aren’t you through already?”, and your wife says “blue, I think we’ll paint the ceiling blue.”
Is there anyone in congress we can trust? Jordan is owned by the tech firms, Pence recommended Coats for DNI, Nunes even went soft on Syria!!
Granted, I’ve had a few glasses of wine, but at this point I have no idea what anyone is talking about. Tried Fox News website for a summary, but the lead story is Eddy Van Halen dying. Good night, All.
RIP EVH
ERUPTION!!
How many times do we have to have Trump say, “we caught them, we have it on TAPE”
“TAPE”………………
So there’s more to come.
A lot more to come.
Time to play the Rook…..less than 30
TAPE is many things…BUT THEY HAVE THE DIGITAL…which is forever!!!! Unless of course somebody erases it…which I kinda doubt due to the fact that it is either safely stored or is being handled by PDJT!!!!
Darn Sundance I feel the same way! That look captured during the Dr press conference, the one where he was hiding his forehead, said to me that he “lost his control”. Floodgates are opening.
On a side note I just had the pleasure of red pulling to MSM followers. It was joyful opening their eyes to the “strings”
How do we know this isn’t a CYA memo and notes?
Meaning they knew about the PT / Russian Collusion frame job earlier but wanted to ensure all of this would be pinned on someone else and thus this is there cover to throw H under the bus?
O and B got this intelligence and asked the FIB to look into it. Thus their hands are clean.
If this is the case then my hope is H comes right back and blows up O and B with the NSA Contractor Spying Operation, the Hammer Spying Operation for the purpose of building that database for future leverage.
Can’t wait for Sundance to dig in on this one.
So… Is Meadows a white hat? or black hat? I didn’t understand why Pres. Trump brought in Priebus as his first Chief of Staff except to use him as a pipeline to then Speaker of the House Paul Ryan. And look how all that turned out?
We knew way back then that Hillary started the narrative. What we did not know then is that the DOJ, CIA, and FBI took seriously the Make It So order from Brennan(?)
pssst.
Hillary doing it was notified. so launder it through Igor (stupid fkc that never goes to Russia and Works for Brookings under Fiona HIll) and let Steele find it through independent reporting. YAY good work Steele! you framed an idiot for your work – and WE INTERVIEWED THE IDIOT and he told us HE TOLD YOU in JAN 2017 he didnt say it.
awe…..
the notification made Hillary get creative – which ultimately cost her
see the May 2017 interview BULLET POINT.
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/doj-activity-re-review%3F
Sundance single handedly DESTOYED THEIR DEFENCE.
Defence = FISA (makes all prior spying legit)
Destroyed = forcing Clinesmith plea before 5.00 pm (Negates legality of the FISA)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/14/its-500pm/
Look at the date!
Sundance RODE before !
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/10/status-update-meet-at-the-old-mill-we-ride-at-midnight/
MET Met met met met
met.
met .
met .
met. .
5:5
to quote the article for those who may not click the OLD MILL.
“Long gone are the ‘hopes’ and ‘trusts’ attached to Jeff Sessions, Rod Rosenstein, Michael Horowitz, John Huber, Matt Whitaker, John Laush, the House of Representatives or Senate;… all futile in their efforts, perhaps purposefully so. That leaves John Durham and AG Bill Barr… and hope is not a strategy as we enter the final stretch.”
Quote 2 for those that dont click the OLD MILL
“If no progress is made by this Friday 5pm, CTH will first share the name of the primary Durham investigator to media previously briefed on the documents we assembled. From there, and within 24 hrs, we will make that name public and direct inquiries can begin.”
Link please.
I would go further and ask will Barr and Durham’s Investigation go down as the single biggest investigative failure in our history and by happenstance occurring just prior before the possible demise of our Republic?
Honest question.
What does the Republic look like if no indictments vs if there were indictments?
I hope the historians chime in.
What investigation? It was a total sham from the get go. So many clues they were as dirty as Comey. Just way more sly.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even ambitious. But it cannot survive treason within…”
Lou Dobbs today, they now have direct ties of Obama to Russia Hoax with documents released on July 5, 2016.
Obama for America then paid for the Steele Report via Perkins Coie, along with Hellery for America.
Follow
The
Money
Halper got paid.
FTM
Why has Barr not charged coup members given this new information was known to him?
Why has Obama not been charged?
he will never be charged…first black POTUS…protects him from all harm.
Because Barr stated publicly that he will never go after Ozero.
Because Barr is the Swamp’s MOAT
It is why he was easily confirmed.
If you ever could catch him up close & personal and ask him how he got his start, he would probably have a breakdown.
He’s a lifer and likely can’t remember how he got inserted in the swamp quicksand as a the “cover up” artist he has always been.
He was very young… It was before law school because the feds paid for his night school while he worked his federal day job.
A leopard ? doesn’t change its spots.
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Information coming out now, July 5, 2016 Steele told his FBI handler that he was working for Hillary Clinton per John Solomon. They knew it was a made up story then. Brennan reported to Obama. Hillary Clinton story was made up.
because July 2016 was before Nov 3, 2016.
this ShT Show since the election has been a NATIONAL DISGRACE like the Kavanuagh hearing.
They made POTUS go from country to country remaking partnerships after the were USED by the previous President (of course they would adhere to the request of a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES)
what Obama did was a NATIONAL DISGRACE – and it can only be discussed in the after years of the securing of our nation.
our Special Access Programs ARE JUST NOW BEING finished. refinished.
rest assure. once they are done. any allie that hasnt conformed to normal protocol, will see themselves no more (look at france and germany- look close; italy)
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summary – if you simply put OBAMA knew – you understand the zero indictment play.
the only play left is a 2nd term win – and a constant releasing of information and humiliation of the previous admin – including all ASSETS confiscated per illegal obtainment.
You make great points WhiteBoard.
just want to emphasize why i said july 2016 was before the election.
its because they never thought POTUS was win, and EVERYTHING before the election WAS A NATIONAL DISGRACE was they did. (encompasses spying, neglecting laws, borders, putting race against race, country against country, and PAYING TERRRORIST to keep OBAMA:S seriver! gmail PRIVATE from the publics knowledge
That is Obama CAUGHT ON HER SERVER – with is PRIVATE SERVER.
Hi Whiteboard,
I’ve been lurking and commenting here since the escalator, but I’ve only noticed your username since Sundance outed Allenberg, about a month ago.
Soon after PDJT was inaugurated, “Q” came on the scene, and I followed that right up to about Q!030, by which time I got tired of the “indictments just around the corner” stuff. By Q’s own admission, half of his stuff was disinformation, “because they were watching for the reaction from the other side”. That’s no better than Fake News.
Your comment that I’m replying to is straight out of the Q book of communication.
Defence = FISA
Destroyed = Forcing
Even the met stuff. Who said “met”? Then there’s the misplaced periods, as if that’s somehow significant. What next? Ooh look someone on Twitter posted a picture of a watch set to 4 minutes past eleven. That means a V shaped rebound!!!
You’re obviously an intelligent guy. If you have something, spit it out, in plain English. We can take it. No more talking in codes.
If you don’t, do us all a favour and stop. Thank you.
The FISA made illegal spying pre October 21, 2016 legal (retroactive authority)
By Sundance forcing Barr to indict Clinsmith in August 2020 it invalidated the FISA, therefore the orginal crime of illegal spying of the NSA database is BACK IN PLAY.
the title of the article was meet at the Old mill.
thats the most of the met comment.
If you want to see anything inspiring.
see this video – POTUS says we caught them on tape.
I’ll never take offence to anyone that took the time to comment.
Hope this clarifies. I’ve tried every way possible to make this argument make sense, Have had some luck.
Thank you White Board. Sometimes this stuff goes over my head and I read/have read this site and others on the scandal since it broke.
the FISA was a defensive play by the people who were caught illegally using the database
Hence – Defence = FISA
(this was meant to be an easy way to REMEMBER this)
By Sundance meeting prior to 5.00pm click the LAST REFUGE article to get context. the FISA Defence was destroyed, because an FBI Lawyer pleaing to falisifying the FISA supporing material INVALIDATES the FISA (again the DEFENCE)
hence — Destroyed – Forcing (forced the clinsmith please destroyed the DEFENSE – FISA)
after all these words – Can you tell me this makes any sense? or is it BS CODE still?
Thank you.
I just recently finished reading “The Official C.I.A Interrogation & Manipulation Manual(Updated 2014 Release). Page 26 section d- “Swindlers and fabricators are usually interrogated for prophylactic reasons, not for counterintelligence information. The purpose is the prevention or nullification of damage to KUBARK(The Central Intelligence Agency in general, more specifically CIA Headquarters, Langley), to other ODYOKE(The Federal government of the United States of America) services.
Swindlers and fabricators have little of CI significance to communicate but are notoriously skillfully time wasters. Interrogating them is usually inconclusive and, if prolonged, unrewarding. The professional peddler with several IS contacts may prove an exception; but he will usually give the edge to a host security service because otherwise he cannot function with impunity.”
The “author” of the Steele Dossier is what one would call a swindler and fabricator. At a minimum the CIA had an obligation to speak to him for preventative reasons so as his information would not bring harm to the CIA or the US Federal government, what I wrote above came right out of their playbook. Looks like they didn’t do what they were supposed to do and instead they took the Steele Dossier and ran with it as if it were rock solid truth.
At a minimum Brenna is woefully incompetent because of this. At worst he has committed treason, but everybody already knows this by now anyways.