The hearing today in the courtroom of Judge Emmet Sullivan was an abject showcase in judicial nuttery. The one good thing to come out of the adversarial arguments was that millions more Americans got to hear first-hand just how broken and corrupt the federal system of the judiciary has become. The judicial farce was only exceeded by the legal nonsense exhibited by Sullivan’s extra-judicial prosecutor/amicus John Gleeson.
At one point in the proceedings Sullivan even threatened Flynn’s defense attorney with a referral to the BAR association for her letter of introduction to AG Bill Barr during the transition between defense counsel. Yes, the judicial activism was that ridiculous.
Yes Alice, unfortunately the fiasco is scheduled to continue… Sidney Powell discusses the day’s events with Lou Dobbs:
I’m shocked a judge can drag an American around by his neck like this. Pure evil.
A honest judge cannot.
Sullivan’s end game is simple. He wanted an excuse to sentence Flynn. Which he will. Sidney will appeal to either the appellate or Supreme Court. They wont be able to take it up and resolve until after November 3. Flynn’s case will be dismissed on appeal. But the resistance will get another October surprise win because the headlines will read- “Flynn sentenced for role in Russia case”. Thats the narrative they want. Aftet the election—“Trump pardons convicted General Flynn”. Democrats pursue charges of obstruction against trump for quid pro quo.
IMO, the coupling of SD’s commentaries and my own intuition have made clearly obvious to me the ultimate victory for the DS in Sullivan’s courtroom. Angst is fruitless unless the SCOTUS completes the legal assassination of Gen. Flynn.
Makes perfect sense. Except the Do”J” dropped the case. In a sane world that’s all she wrote.
Not as clear cut a narrative for the dems. All the few ethical reporters and PT admin have to do is point out the judge is a nut case. Possibly as confused as biden. He has comprehension issues. He can’t keep up. The case was dropped. He’s out there someplace, flailing.
They may get a headline or two but I don’t think it will help them much. Plus, the DNI is exposing the whole scam.
I would only add that the Congress once again shows us their abject lack of courage. They should be investigating this weirdo judge.
I’m even more convinced after the arguments today
the DOJ will file their own Writ of Mandamus if Sullivan denies.
That they didn’t was a significant reason why the Appellate court threw it back to Sullivan.
The DOJ made no claim of “harm”.
Sullivan denial would be that harm.
WHICH means that Sullivan will be on the pike!!!! BAD place to be…WHEN the DOJ attorney said they were not prosecuting that should have ENDED ALL arguments right there and judgement made right then and there…KVS…what would be Sullivan’s END GAME here at this time???
NOTE: NOT an attorney but stuff like this interests me and how people, esp. the court system think…
If we’re playing the “Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda” game….
All arguments should have ended when the DOJ filed the Motion to Dismiss in MAY.
Unfortunately, Sullivan has put us in Wonderland.
I’ve heard many arguments about what is Sullivan’s motive or endgame.
I do not believe this has anything to do with “keeping Flynn quiet because he knows where all the bodies are buried” theory.
I think this is something much simpler:
Thematically:
Protecting Mueller’s Investigation.
After all the Trump/Russia collusion and Mueller buildup…….there was never anything to any of it.
Think about it…..
FLYNN was Mueller’s biggest and arguably ONLY “success”. Nothing else he did was of any significance at all in comparison.
I think this is the VERY reason Mueller decided to prosecute him while the DOJ declined to do so MONTHS EARLIER.
Take away Flynn and you take away his ONLY TROPHY.
Now with all that has come out and will continue to…..the optics of having FLYNN completely exonerated is something they cannot abide….especially before the election.
IMO Sullivan’s endgame is to delay the inevitable until after the election.
So if I were to bet right now….
barring some other additional intervening delaying tactics…
I’d put my money on Sullivan taking another couple of weeks then DENYING the motion.
That most certainly would delay this past Nov 3.
I see no indication of any embarrassment on his part if the Appellate Court would reverse him.
KVS…NOW I understand…Mueller’s “success” story CANNOT be over-written and therefore…EVERYONE is trying to protect it!!!
HOW does President Donald John Trump blow a hole in the boat midships so that this Mueller investigation sinks faster than the Titanic?
It is all so sad.
The Demon Entropy is in his glories. Please, somebody make him shut up!
I’m damn sick of it as well. But I just ran across an article at Breitbart (wish I had the foresight to have copied the URL) that told of a meeting Sidney had with the President where she briefed him on the case and asked him to not get involved, to let it play out.
I think she knew these revelations were gonna come out, bit by bit (mebbie she was briefed, in turn, by Rick Grenel or someone with his sort of access? Mebbie PDJT himself?) and Gen. Flynn was OK with standing at the foot of the gallows steps (as it were) as a continued service to our great country.
In any case, if all else fails, Sidney has said publicly she would take the to SCOUTS.
With ACB on the bench would that not be glorious?!?
That would be epic.
My problem with the hearing a is a basic lack of understanding the terms with prejudice, and without prejudice. I have a bit of reading to do.
Yes it is evil, and the really sickening thing is that damn near EVERYONE in DC approves of the evil Sullivan is inflicting on General Flynn.
Do we want this insanity to stop? Do we want to defeat this evil? Then, unfortunately, it will take another kind of evil. It will take a level of merciless cruelty and barbarity that is seen only in the most despotic countries. But THAT is all the left, the Deep State and the establishment which are supporting Sullivan understand. It is the coin of their realm.
Thus, we must give them all they want….and then a little bit more.
Just the clear message from obama, go against me and see what you get. All on display to see.
See my power…
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
–JFK (1962)
@ trump20162024… Re: JFK
He was never the great president some believe him to be; but, credit where credit is due… after buying him the presidency, his daddy bought him the best speechwriters money could buy!
Fake news you spit out.
He was neither vile, nor stupid.
He was set up by FBI, CIA, VP & probably the gov of Texas.
He was a war hero.
America has never been the same since November 22, 1963.
(His mother was a good person, so STFU mims.)
@ YvonneMarie…
You’re welcome to your opinion about how JFK became president; and, as far as I’m concerned, you have every right to express it here the same as I have the right to express my own opinion here.
I never said JFK was vile or stupid.
I never mentioned the Bay of Pigs fiasco; and, I happen to agree that JFK was most likely set up regarding it.
I never mentioned his war record.
I agree that his assassination was a grave tragedy for America as were the assassinations of other US presidents; and, I believe the truth thereof has not yet been revealed.
I never mentioned his mother; and, I certainly never used any sort of rude or crude language in my comment. But, you did mention all those things that are totally unrelated to my comment and you were both rude and crude in your reply to me. That says a lot more about you than it does about me.
As for JFK’s status as a president, he was better than some and worse than some; but, he was never a great president. He was made a martyr after his assassination by at least some the same people (along with the media) you point out as having set him up regarding the Bay of Pigs. THAT was part of their effort to cover up and distract attention away from their crimes and corruption. If you were really as smart and/or informed as you apparently like to think you are, you might be able to understand that.
you are wrong. JFK WAS indeed one of the great presidents. yes there were scandals. yes definitely family money that placed him.
the number one reason why JFK was one of the great presidents was that he was boldly optimistic. he dared people to.think big. he truly believed in the higher dreams of human kind…he was a respectable patriot in every single way and won respect with his service to this country with many well deserved decorations of valor.
JFK would have likeky ushered in a much faster end to the cold war..he understood ultimately military power does not solve all disputes. but was never afraid of getting dirty to spoil an adversary.
he was very popular…he was young and energetic and likable by many.. because he was respectable.
and yes he delivered incredibly powerful speeches…but also delivered on the message.
he was capable of walking the Potomac two step but also getting the nation’s business done.
he was a little before my time, but i remember little boy watching the excitement of my own family listening to him and being proud and patriotic.
it was probably the last president who was able to bring a country together and respect some basic mutual interests.
the imagination wonders what this country might have been had he been allowed to deliver more of his goals.
maybe i have rosey glasses.
maybe that’s the point of excellent leadership.
optimism… you catch a case of it…and pretty soon things just start becoming better.
jmho
@ regitiger… I bet you also believe Lincoln and FDR were great presidents…
Maybe one day you will understand the media’s unique ability to both create and destroy the perception held by the masses of people they wish to help or harm; and, why they do so.
This judge is having his strings pulled by Obama. General Flynn knows where all the evidence is that can convict the whole gang. Hopefully he isn’t going to have the same fate as others that testify agains the Deep State.
Third world DC appellate court for sure! Drain the swamp now — this is not the way the judicial system is supposed to work. Poor Gen Flynn and Sidney Powell… How can AG Barr sit there and not do anything? Frostbite ANGER tonight!
Same!! I am beyond sick and tired of seeing the scales of “justice” so tilted in one direction while everyone in the media pretends that it’s all completely unbiased! Trying to not be discouraged but am honestly feeling overwhelming sad right now.
I really hate the part where the corrupt judge won’t tell us when or what happens next.
We know that, as a minimum, it has to now drag on beyond the election. There is no possible way for him to drop the case and let it appear that LTG Flynn wins.
Letting LTG Flynn prevail along with the recent and possible additional, future document releases by the DNI would only contribute to the now obvious and mounting evidence of guilt of obama, his crew and clinton.
The lawlessness exists in all three branches of government. I don’t know which one is worse.
It’s what happens when such bad behavior goes unpunished for so long. It only leads to more bad behavior – and then less outrage at future transgressions. Every parent knows that.
Obama may have left quite a few Judges seats empty for Trump to fill
But Obama was very busy seeding the government agencies with his corrupt buddies
There are many Obama/Biden moles left in our political system. Wasn’t it the Russians that stated that America would not lose the war in battle, by within without a single shot being fired. Ironically I wrote about these moles back in 2012, an election year, and paid dearly for it.
Must supply enough judge inventory for the shop and shop clerks.
I am amazed that there are still Bill Barr defenders out there. Bill Barr is in a position to stop so much of this ongoing evil, yet he sits back and allows our constitution to be shredded. He disgusts me.
In respect to Flynn, Bill Barr has done what he can do. The Judiciary is a rouge arm of the swamp that can only be controlled by SCOTUS.
You are very wrong. Had Bill Barr initiated disciplinary or even legal action against Van Grack for malicious prosecution, Sullivan would have a weakened position regarding the DOJ dropping the case due to political arm twisting. This would be history.
Chip Doctor
AG Barr has no power to do anything to end Sullivan’s refusal to do his job.
What about prosecuting all those involved in the frame-up of General Flynn?
I see little evidence of these indictments and prosecutions at all.
Do you see this? Please direct me to where I can learn more.
Obama also seeded the military brass with his corrupt buddies.
This!
I’ve often wondered why Swamp Rat Mitch McConnell was willing to help Trump place so many conservative judges, when his own corrupt interests require a powerful deep state unbeholden to the people’s interests.
Maybe that’s it. Obama took DC’s soft socialism to the next step–Chicago-style corruption, where the agencies wield intel against individuals to gain cooperation, and strategically-headed bureaucracies produce policy.
Against that government Hydra… if a conservative judge makes a Constitutional ruling, who’s going to enforce it?
And once law no longer rules, hopelessness settles in for the population who knows, cares, and believes. The Constitution then soon joins the ranks of Confederate generals
Obama left them open on purpose. They never thought she would lose. The pay for play. Clinton wanted to enrich themselves further by selling the vacancy.(Clinton foundation)
This is why I think the uniparty didnt push to fill the Supreme Court vacancy in Obamas last year. Again, Clinton wanted to sell the seat.
Now eyes are wide on the corruption of our court system and judges. The corruption is everywhere! How many Dictrict and Circut judges are like Sullivan? This corruption isnt only from uniparty appointees. Its in small and large cities everywhere.
I just hope and pray people are paying attention to who is running for Mayor and who are running for Judge. Do people who run for Judge even have campaigns? I have searched on Ballotpedia and most have no information. This is scary. My apologies if this is a dumb question but how do we find out about their rulings and cases? We all should no longer accept not being told. Judges should not be affiliated with any political party yet they are. With how many bad Bush judges there are you cannot accept because they are Republicans they will uphold the constitution.
Ok I am done with my rant! Fear not soldiers of God. In our darkest hour we will find light at the end of the tunnel. Take solace in knowing we are the majority. Do not give fake news and corrupt politicans any power over your life. Trust in God and trust in humanity. Make no mistake, in the end God wins! Equal justice of the law is coming. Keep the faith! God bless!!!
“…and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.” James 1:15
We are witnessing the sin of evil men reaching full maturity. It is not fully clear how deep and wide the corruption is, but I pray as a country we may still, by repentance and a return to God, escape the judgement that is otherwise inevitable.
“How can AG Barr sit there and not do anything?”
He is doing the job the resistance assigned to him.
Evidently.
How can AG Barr sit there and not do anything?
Not do anything????
Barr made the decision to file the Motion to Dismiss the case.
Barr appointed Jensen who is the reason Flynn has all the exculpatory evidence he has.
Barr’s attorneys were arguing the case today.
Without Barr, Flynn would be attempting to appeal a JAIL SENTENCE right now.
We wouldn’t be even discussing this right now if Barr had Van Grack and team investigated for malpractice the second the DOJ dropped the case. Flynn would be a free man now.
First, the second the DOJ “dropped the case” Sullivan stepped in to “NOT LET IT BE DROPPED.”
This irregardless of the overwhelming evidence that there was no legitimate case.
BRADY EVIDENCE that Sullivan instructed turned over.
Still waiting for Sullivan HIMSELF to hold Van Grack in contempt (which he clearly won’t)
The fact that he hasn’t is your proof that NO MATTER what Barr did….Sullivan was going to drag out his ruling on the Motion to Dismiss.
Second, how do you know Barr IS NOT having VanGrack investigated?
(Kohl made some allusions that this very thing may be happening in his remarks to Sullivan yesterday).
I’m not sure you quite understand what’s going on right now….
Sullivan UNTIL HE RULES holds all the cards in this matter.
The entire judiciary of this country is in a state of disgrace as long as Sullivan remains on or even anywhere near a bench.
Judge Sullivan is just a visible part of the DeepState iceberg.
Still, sending him into retirement would be something.
Sending Sullivan to jail would be better.
…sending him to Hell would be best.
Excellent point. But, the question is, how many more Sullivans are there in the judicial system at all levels? That’s an eye-popping thought!
Many…Tanya Chutkin, Amy Berman, Rudolph Contreras, Sotomayer, Kagan…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Barack_Obama
For those old enough, Sullivan should be on the Group W bench (see Arlo Guthrie’s Alice’s Restaurant Massacre)
Clearly he had not read anything submitted….
Sullivan is just like a health insurer company that denies authorization for a needed CT or MRI for a patient despite the clearly-spelled out indications on the ordering physician’s clinic and order notes. The Physician then has to waste whatever time they had for lunch to call the insurance company’s “Peer-to-Peer” line and (after going through the same demographic ID info with 2 different insurance nurses for 20 minutes) talk with their doctor on appeal. Oftentimes, the insurance doctor is NOT of the same specialty. The physician then reads VERBATIM his indications for the test and the insurance doctor then says “ok, I will give you authorization”; you know this whole waste of time charade was BS because the insurance doctor DID NOT EVEN READ the notes the FIRST TIME!!! Judge Sullivan has no idea what karma is coming for him for his total jerk behavior. At this high level of court hierarchy, this unprofessional behavior would get you disbarred and hopefully he will lose his pension. It’s not like he has not had time to read the pertinent Court materials. It is his only case at this time.
Absolutely NOTHING will happen to Sullivan. Flynn’s very powerful enemies are supporting Sullivan. Of course, karma could cause a stroke or a heart attack, or Sullivan could slip on a banana peel and break his neck. But karma doesn’t work that way–well, rare instances.
The problem with lightning is it ain’t distributed right.
– Mark Twain
And OCN…what you have eluded too is what is driving this travesty of justice…that is why Lady Justice is blind folded because the judges are SUPPOSED TO BE IMPARTIAL!!!!
Alluded to.
To elude is to evade pursuit. To allude is to make an allusion to.
Using the correct word is part of the quest for clarity in writing.
Ivan…apologize for the incorrect use of English grammar of elude vs allude…Thank you!!!
“One Nation Under GOD!” Wheels are turning, people are seeing, maybe this won’t all be for naught. Sunlight and Sundance give me hope that we might be seeing a new beginning point for our country and not a dead end. MAGA! BD
AG Barr is MIA when it comes to defending a decorated combat veteran – a 3-star general.
Do you think he will defend us simple deplorables?
What do you want Barr to do? He isn’t the judge? He is trying to get the court to release Flynn. The next step is the SCOTUS not AG.
The DOJ attorneys were begging this POS to do the right thing. They did an excellent job. A dismissal is an admission that Obama’s corrupt DOJ/FBI were neck deep in a pile of poop. And now, with the 09/29/20 letter from Ratcliff, it is clear they are all covered in poop. The Kenyan turned us into a Banana Republic in 8 short years. Thankfully Trump intervened and Hillary is at home with a Chardonnay IV, instead of at the WH. 8 more with the Clinton crime family and there is no telling where we would be today. God help us should the fraud succeed. What we saw today is the face of communism.
Charging his prosecutors with “misconduct” and firing their asses may have or had some influence on Sullivan.
Barr has put in a marginal effort at best. Plenty of low hanging fruit to prosecute to break the legal logjam- but no …more important to him to protect Rosy and old dirty Bob. Get ACB on the SC stat – what’s with wasting time with committee meetings BTW – and get the 9-0 decision thats waiting.
AG Barr is MIA when it comes to defending a decorated combat veteran
MIA?
HE’S TRYING TO DISMISS THE CASE against that veteran.
He sent a Deputy AG and US Attorney to DEFEND that veteran TODAY.
Flynn would be have already been sentenced to prison if he hadn’t.
If it’s “Alice in Wonderland,” who is the real Cheshire Cat?
Brennan, Obama, Clapper…..or perhaps someone lurking just out of range.
Then who is the Queen of Hearts?
This may be a bad analogy. “Alice in Wonderland” was an ingenious work of fiction. This is gov’t, which is stranger than fiction. And poorly written. By untalented hacks.
Oh, the Queen of Hearts is definitely Sullivan.
The title of this one should probably be “Malice in Blunderland.”
YMMV….
DOJ “Your honor, there is no case.” This MUST be taken out of Sullivan’s corrupt and severely biased hands.
Yep.
And there are no Obama judges?
So says your Chief Justice.
Borrowing from the liberals: “he’s not my Chief Justice”
Roberts had the chutzpah to admonish POTUS for telling the truth about the degradation of the judicial branch during Roberts’s tenure.
Roberts had the chutzpah to admonish POTUS for telling the truth about the degradation of the judicial branch during Roberts’s tenure.
The deep sh8t state must have some really bad dirt on “chief justice” Roberts. Yet another failure brought to us by the bush crime family..
Didn’t “honourable” justice Roberts fly to Epstein’s pedophile sex and satanic child sacrifice island?
“John Roberts” is a common name. There is a flight record of a “John Roberts” flying on one of Epstein’s jets from Palm Beach, Florida to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey.
I’ll bet Emmett wishes Flynn still had his Covington lawyers. Sidney has really put a hitch in his gidi- yap ( good aim Sidney)Eric Holder’s firm was willing to screw Flynn over just to Emmett’s liking.Keep it up Emmett, more evidence continues to be produced while you fuddle around.
According to something I saw on Twitter, Judge Sullivan questioned Sidney Powell about conversations she may (or may not have) had with President Trump. Allegedly, after first suggesting that such conversations might be a matter of “Executive Privilege” Sidney backed down and told Juxge Sullivan that she DID talk to President Trump about Flynn’s case, and that she SPECIFICALLY ASKED TRUMP TO NOT pardon Michael Flynn.
Would it not be wise and rational to refuse to participate in a corrupt, abusive, illegitimate and immoral process orchestrated by those who have taken an oath to uphold the law? Who or what is compelling Flynn and Powell to participate in this clown show? General Flynn, you are a warrior….a fighter. I suggest that this is the time for a strategic withdrawal. Every time you and your attorney show up in the kangaroo court, you give it your permission to continue to abuse the law and your rights. Stop participating in your own abuse. One possible albeit long shot secondary outcome of your withdrawal may be that AG Barr gets off his rear end and arrests a few dozen traitors.
How can they withdraw? the judge is at fault and GF shouldn’t have the threat of jail hanging over his head. The whole thing is banana republic level crazy.
You’re making my case………..thanks.
Huh?
Flynn cannot withdraw. Are you asking him to him to plead guilty a third time, so that the Dishonourable Emmett Sullivan can sentence him to 30 years of solitary confinement?
What the heck?
Back at you Joemama……..what the heck?
Sidney told Emmett she asked Trump not to pardon Flynn. If Sullivan goes through with sentencing and this goes to the Supreme Court, Sullivan is on notice that his distortions of the law will be judged as well.
HUH? Your comment makes no sense at all. Sullivan has a guilty plea from Flynn and wants to proceed to sentence. For Flynn (Powell) to “withdraw” from all proceedings at this point is to abandon the contest. Anyway, the current issue is primarily between DOJ and Sullivan, since DOJ wants to drop the case and Sullivan is desperately trying to keep it going.
The guilty plea was withdrawn and the DOJ withdrew their case and moved to dismiss. So Paul, as my attorney, after we both have come to understand that the system, the process and the judge are all arrayed against us, you would advise me to stay the course, continue to participate in a failed process and keep my fingers crossed? You would advise me to continue to pretend that this judge is due my respect and obedience? Paul, you’re fired.
I truly did not understand what you were proposing. I think I get it now.
I think that you are suggesting that Flynn and his counsel just stop showing up in the court, as it has shown that it is not following any legitimate legal process and is performing as an extrajudicial prosecution court not bound by any laws recognized in the USA.
Then when judge sullivan orders General Flynn’s arrest for not showing up in court, you deal with it like they would in any 3rd world banana republic. (You get your own police force to fight judge sullivan’s police force, or something like that).
Is that about right?
Yes Joemama. When in a banana republic, do as the banana republicans do! Time to put it all on the line my friend. The good news is…..Sullivan and Gleeson will have to suit up and go arrest General Flynn themselves.
You do not understand the basics of the legal system. The guilty plea is not yet “withdrawn” … there is a MOTION to the judge (since January) but the judge has not (yet) granted the motion. The DOJ has a motion to drop the case but the judge has not (yet) granted it.
The case does not go away just because *you* (defendant) wish it so. The case is still pending before Sullivan’s court.
Paul….you are still fired. Surely you understand that Sullivan and his court have nothing to do with the law and justice. Please get back to me when you’re ready to face reality. At the risk of sounding trite….we desperately need “out of the box” thinkers and doers.
Sidney can just say, “Your honor we are done. My client is innocent as the record before you clearly shows. We rest our case” .
And a guilty verdict and harsh sentence would soon follow. Unfortunately, that may be the best strategy to end this charade and progress immediately to the Supreme Court. This brisket is cooked.
Nobody’s getting arrested before November 3rd. But should Trump manage to miraculously win in spite of off-the-chart, massive voter fraud, it’s doubtful Barr will be so inclined.
Let’s face it, we live in a banana republic….we might as well adjust our tactics to the “environment” if we want to survive.
Until we learn to love, proclaim and embrace the truth and reject the never ending lies, we are indeed a banana republic, a failed state and a failed people. And as you know Janus, if we want to survive we will need to put everything on the line…..everything.
Unless Judge Sullied commits a federal crime A.G. Barr has no authority or jurisdiction to arrest him.
IMHO Sullied is guilty of bias, judicial malpractice, and all sorts of procedural violations but he is in the Judicial Branch, not the Executive.
Sullied could be impeached and removed but that, like the impeachment of a President, requires a procedure in the House, a vote of a simple majority, followed by a hearing in the Senate and a vote of 2/3rds of those present.
So unless the higher court intervenes, Sullied can continue to sully the process.
The way to get the bad judge to bring things to a close is to make it increasingly uncomfortable to continue the charade. If each time Sidney comes back to court, more and more damning evidence is brought into the open, the judge may finally stop proceedings. If the judge dismisses as requested, all is well. If the judge concludes the case in any other way, then Flynn will appeal and win on appeal.
The DOJ could help as well by bringing more and more wrongdoing to the light of day, each and every time the bad judge continues the charade.
Going after Sullivan on ethical grounds; sure to get him all aflutter … “you’ve been a very bad boy,” followed by a mild slap on the wrist.
Sidney, quit talking and just go to SCOTUS to end this crap and then play with ethics stuff to add icing to the cake.
But bottom line, END THIS NOW !!
“just go to SCOTUS ”
People do not understand the legal system. You don’t get to “just go to SCOTUS” unless all previous options have been exhausted AND the Supreme Court agrees to hear the case. As long as it is still between Judge Sullivan and the Court of Appeals (which has sent it back to Sullivan) there is no option to “just go to SCOTUS”….
Not criticizing your remark, just a legal tidbit you can use to impress your friends.
Under a petition for mandamus, the case stays in the trial court. The appeals court, if it issues a writ of mandamus, is ordering the trial court what to do with the case.
Appeal, on the other hand, the case itself, the entire record, that goes to the appeals court. And as you point out, the appellate court usually sends the case back to the trial court with instructions.
Sullivan’s rationale for waiting til now to hold the hearing doesn’t hold water. He’s dragging things out as long as he can, and by golly he is going to defend every decision he makes. Not a good judge, but then, “law is hard.”
What do you call the person who finished last in your law school class?
“Your honor.”
rofl, and what do you call the next-to-last person in the law school class?
Joe Biden
(I think he was in bottom third, despite false public boasts that he was at the top of his class and on full scholarship)
Wait until ACB is the ninth justice.
I listened to her interview and you could tell from her voice that she was livid with the nonsense that went on today. Judge Sullivan needs to remember the truth that when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
Sullivan wouldn’t give her 15 seconds to talk before interrupting.
He was worse than Sean Hannity.
His TDS is so bad he wouldn’t pi$$ on her if she were on fire.
There’s the difference. I would pi$$ on Judge Sullivan even if he wasn’t on fire. I care.
If you listened to the hearing today she could barely contain her anger, don’t blame her one whit, I had to tune out for a few minutes to get the blood pressure under control.
Every little power center in the federal system now things it is a completely independent, all-powerful ruler. Vindman thought he should be able to dictate Ukrainian policy; Comey thought he could take all the powers of federal law enforcement to himself.
Where are the checks and balances our system of government is supposed to be marvelously laden with? That is a rhetorical question, as we all know the answer: The Insane Left, and the complicit Globalist Elites, are openly showing, by their every action, that they don’t need no stin-king badges, of legitimate law and order.
To begin, now, to correct things: Everyone needs to stand up on their hind legs and remove their masks. All together, or every man, woman and child for themselves (it all counts on your personal character ledger, at least). Show some damned sanity.
Checks and balances is turf war between the branches, over which has control over the people.
The people don’t get a say, just manipulated, lied to, abused, taxed, and trampled.
Just saying, they “check” for their own benefit, not for the public benefit, and not to restrain the power of government.
SCOTUS is responsible for New Deal and Commerce Clause jurisprudence, which is an unconscionable expansion of federal government power.
Decadent banana republic we are.
Go right ahead your honor
– be sure to attach the record of this trial
– including this exchange
– and the request for recusal
It’s the US judicial system that effectively allows judges to become prosecutors as long as they have the support of their local Appeals Court.
Flynn has nothing to worry about in the end, he’ll walk even if it takes SCOTUS, it’s the ability of Sullivan to make “the process is the punishment” in time and money that is bizarre.
Our Nation suffers as long as this General is out of the fight.
He is virtually imprisoned and effectively silenced.
The entire Nation is paying for Sullivan’s criminality.
IF, and that’s a big IF, Durham ever brings charges, he knows what he’s facing if the trial is held in DC. I honestly wasn’t surprised no charges have been brought Y.E.T. I don’t think the majority have the stomach for a battle between good and evil prior to the election. They’re keeping their powder dry until Trump’s reelection – I Pray!
What can Sidney do now? The corruption is so obvious a caveman can see it.
The Persecution is playing itself out well:
1) DOJ is able to continue to look for Brady material and share it publicly.
2) The general public gets an inside look at how the swamp operates.
3) Potus continues to be vindicated along with General Flynn, both victims of the Witch hunt.
4) The voters want Durham to show some results, besides a Clinesmith one-count guilty plea.
5) Voters continue to be “mad as hell”, full of ‘cold anger’ motivated to vote.
6) Anything Judge Sullivan does now other than a full dismissal will be seen as deep state.
The only problem with your proposition is that 95% of Americans have absolutely no idea that this is occurring.
Correct too many people just repeat what they hear from the corrupt MSM. Many aren’t evil but criminally ignorant.
The 18-50 year-old demographic can discuss every backstory plot line to imaginary movies based on obscure 1950-70 comic books or Games of Thrones (or whatever HBO special they are SUPPOSED to be all gaga about) but not REAL stuff. Are they waiting for the Flynn case to be “yanked from the headlines” and made into a Law & Order episode? I thought they loved political-spy-military thrillers pitting incorruptible heroic patriot lone cowboys against evil corporate CIA/Big GOV/FBI type organizations? Yet….they go all teary eyed about the Central Park 5.
Also, they are too busy sending the “perfect” meme to their yoga or cycling friends while whining how stupid their computer addicted kids are compared to when they were young. Young 35 year old balding but whiskered men sporting cargopants are too busy discussing the intricacies of a 17th round trade for 2024 between the Clippers and the Spurs from ESPN2736 at 2AM while they wear sports jerseys in public on weekdays (when most generations stopped wearing them around age 13)
Spoiled brat baby boomers and 50+ years of communist-inspired teachers unions have produced a disgustingly bitter harvest. Our once great Republic hangs in the balance a mere five weeks from today.
. . .
“A republic, madam, if you can keep it.”
“95% of Americans have absolutely no idea that this is occurring”
Chicago, I agree many Americans have no idea. Because they choose not to believe the facts or are too busy with their lives to unravel the complexities of this years-long story.
Ray of Hope: More than 5% of Americans will recognize this as junk. Today’s events concerning Lt. Gen. Flynn are familiar in many ways. It sounded like the Shiff/Lawfare Impeachment Show presented to the US Senate, barely adapted to the Flynn case. Even similar to the Kavanaugh Confirmation. Primary difference is that the Justice or Presiding Officer was not playing the dual role of prosecutor.
Let’s see what role/s Chris Wallace is directed to play in tonight’s debate.
Sad but true
It’s very far from 95% with “absolutely no idea.” There are more and more clued in daily by the PDJT “peaceful protests,” by shows with far reach like Rush’s, by fantastic Internet sources like this one, by an explosion of intelligent podcasts, by people newly awakened by dempanic tyranny to paying attention…
However we certainly need to spread the story further every day to everyone possible.
That’s our job now and forever, by the way. Bemoaning the fact that the yellowstream left bought media won’t do it does us no good.
We need to keep supporting and strengthening our media. How many have cut cable? Failing that, how many have called cable companies and demanded OAN and Newsmax?
I saw a bit of OAN’s post debate coverage last night and it was brilliant.
6) Anything Judge Sullivan does now other than a full dismissal will be seen as deep state.
By whom, a statistically insignificant amount of citizens who’ve been following this? We don’t matter, and the Deep State KNOWS that. There simply aren’t enough truly outraged citizens who know about this to make a difference.
Aside from Delta Force doing the right thing, or God Almighty having a burning bush moment with Sullivan, nothing will happen to change how this charade plays out.
1). Trump HAS to win in order to keep this on the path to dismissal–which will happen eventually. Sullivan is using time and the benefit of this being tossed back to him to stall for as long as possible. If Trump wins, the clock no longer matters and Sullivan loses. Once it gets to SCOTUS, Flynn wins. Period.
2). If Trump loses, Flynn loses. Sure, Trump can (and will) pardon him, but if he doesn’t, Flynn would be sentenced and even do JAIL time. THAT is how the left / Deep State / establishment rolls.
Loved this paragraph.
“Where are the checks and balances our system of government is supposed to be marvelously laden with? That is a rhetorical question, as we all know the answer: The Insane Left, and the complicit Globalist Elites, are openly showing, by their every action, that they don’t need no stin-king badges, of legitimate law and order”
Sullivan is doing General Barry’s bidding…Following his orders…
Sullivan is a weak and stupid clown judge–evil to the core.
This corrupt judge needs to be called out if nothing else just to give a bit of credibility to what is left of our legal system. Barr should unleash his people who represented DOJ today. They should be on every Sunday show and more calling this rogue out. Then Barr should add his comments. Their public silence on this corrupt judge is now almost as bad as the judge himself–
IT IS WORSE.
At this point, Sullivan is a criminal…no impeachment needed.
WSB,
Indeed! Cannot a judge be arrested for corruption? They are not above the law. What’s in it for Sullivan to continue this farce? Find out what his driving him to ignore the law to continue a corrupt prosecution, and confront him with it. It may very well be something as illegal as a bribe.
An infant has the belief that “I am the center of the universe”. As real world consequences evolve this belief to a more functional and cooperative behaviors, the child is viewed as socialized.
LawFare and the weaponized Deep State is the child that has not been confronted by real world consequences for their criminal behavior. Until Barr and our Federal LEOs are willing to punish the multiple people that scoffed at our Constitutional Republic, the lawless EF U behavior the likes of Judge Sullivan displayed today will surely continue.
The inmates are running the asylum for sure!
Speaking of dirty prosecutions:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/29/washington-post-mueller-prosecutor-investigated-for-misleading-congress-about-political-pressure-on-stone-case/
“Investigation” has earned its place in the dictionary of meaningless words.
Unfortunately Dan you’re correct. Seems justice has taken a leave of absence.
Have you noticed that virtually every legal matter involving President Trump, his friends and supporters or his executive orders gets assigned to an Obama judge? Judge assignment is supposed to random based on a secret “wheel” however the women who work in the District Court Clerk’s Office are easily corrupted by high-powered defense attorneys who ply them with expensive lunches, holiday gifts, gourmet food platters and sometimes even romance to get access to everything “sealed” by the court including judge assignments.
Start with Angela D Caesar…DC Circuit.
https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/links
This is absolutely disgusting . ! Having lived through something like THIS FLYNN CASE , and then have to deal with events 50 times as heartwrenching and disgusting later — via the prison system ( cant explain it ! Really bad ) , the probation system , the ( argue for care of my then 3 year old grand daughter) child custody / support system — to the tune of 23 lawyers ( BAR people ) and having a SUCCESSFUL BAR COMPLAINT overturned and TRASHED , all costing over $ 750K , all I can say is the following.
Some guy named : Russell-Jay: Gould who does videos about Quantum Correct Grammar , and a history lesson leading to ” the Title 4 Flag ” — well he might very well be someone to take serious and understand his message ! Does Sullivans court look like a ” fiction ” ? a circus with no laws or rules ?
You decide.
The leftist cabal has orchestrated a takeover of the institutions of power and control while most people remained in their own purple haze. Trump is an existential threat to them as they are a more and more revealed existential threat to our Constitution and the American Republic. If the election is stolen by the Democrats you can kiss this grand experiment goodbye as you enter into a prolonged financial and economic Depression in a new world that is best described as Animal Farm. The ultimate worldwide goal of the globalist left.
Hopefully, Sullivan will suffer every day of his miserable life. I want every day of his life to be 100 times worse than the worst moment of General Flynn’s life.
But if we can’t have that, there’s always the afterlife.
Sullivan is living proof of the absolute evil in this world.
While the lengthy process is very harmful (near term) to Gen. Flynn, a great patriot, it has boomeranged against the Bamster Fraud, Hillary, Brennan and the larger cabal. It will continue to do so. God is seeing to that.
Evil often overplays its hand. This is yet another beautiful example of that.
Flynn and Powell will win big in the end, which should occur by yearend at the latest.
if you want to change things, bring back public duels. if their life is on the line,,,,
Sidney said she was going for the motion to disqualify. I believe that is the DC Circuit court. She also may seek a stay so that Sullivan cannot rule while the motion is pending. Flynn may need to run the clock to avoid being sentenced.
Motion to disqualify/recuse goes to the trial court judge. Sullivan decides his own fate on that count.
Sidney already asked the appellate court to replace Sullivan. They said no. No reason to presume Sullivan would not make a properly reasoned (but not necessarily correct) decision.
They don’t care about the appearance of impartiality. Which is fine by me, I view the court as a bunch of partisan hacks. Outcome first, reason after. Punish your enemies and favor your friends.
bravo Sydney with Motion to Disqualify Sullivan.
After Sullivan and Gleeson’s performance today, it might just work.
Godspeed and f them all.
Now don’t get me wrong.. I don’t like him one bit.. but In an odd sort of way Sullivan is forcing the release of documents we likely never would have seen. This much of a theatrical outlandish fight screams DS wagg the doj..
I can see why Sullivan was asking Sidney about her conversations with Trump. This is all designed to dirty the President up prior to the election by implying that he is having some undue influence on the case and DOJ. I wish Sidney had told the Judge she was not going to discuss any conversation she had with POTUS due to executive privilidge and let the Judge steam over it.
Nous accusons!
For any Lawyers out there:
Can the SC just but in anytime and tell Sullivan he is done and Mr Flynn you are free to go?
No. Law is a lawyer driven process. Cases have to be brought to, presented to the court.
And then there are substantial hurdles such as proper venue, procedural posture (no original case in appeals court; but SCOUTS does have original jurisdiction of some cases, and there is such a thing as “direct appeal” to SCOTUS), allegations amount to a tort or crime, etc.
To keep this all in perspective… Clinesmith doctored a e-mail to spy on the president and he is still walking arround…
Get the picture..DC is out of controll….. Politicians, three letter agencies, judges, …. PDT is their problem.. take him out by any means.. the corrupted MSM will provide cover..
Accurate summary. We don’t have to like it but it is the state of play.
While the lengthy process is very harmful (near term) to Gen. Flynn, a great patriot, it has boomeranged against the Bamster Fraud, Hillary, Brennan and the larger cabal. It will continue to do so. God is seeing to that.
Evil often overplays its hand. This is yet another beautiful example of that.
Flynn and Powell will win big in the end, which should occur by yearend at the latest.
Gleason was just plain evil today. I know more than enough about the case to know that he was lying his posterior off.
Who wants to bet that Sullivan is on Biden’s short list for Supreme Court Justice?
The FILINGS & EXHIBITS are the EVIDENCE IN any Court matter.
Sullivan doesn’t read Sidney Powell’s filings, but inappropriately goes outside of the four corners of the documents and inappropriately demands to know from the:
1. DoJ prosecutors about conversations with AG Barr
2. Counsel Powell’s private conversations with PTDJ & WH counsel
3. Addresses President Trump’s tweets.
What as ass.
What a biased arse.
Is he reading the worldwide tweets on this case? If PT’s tweets are so relevant to him are not the rest of the millions of tweets? What are his judicial criteria of public tweet evidence he chooses to accept and not accept in twitter world? Biased?
Does that carry over to news outlets? CNN? Fox? What news is relevant to him? Biased?
He not only needs to be dismissed from the case, J. Sullivan needs to be disbarred for politicizing this case and before he is SOMEONE needs to start the judicial impeachment process.
And this biased arse threatens Sidney? SPIT.
Sidney Powell is still The Great Sidney Powell.
J. Sullivan is still a biased judge who has no more standing than a political-judicail hack.
SPIT.
Dismiss. Disbar. Impeached.
SPIT. SPIT. SPIT.
AG Bill Barr is going to have to explain why there are two systems of justice in the US. Why do agencies like the DOJ, FBI and CIA allow employees to do what they think or feel is right? Why are courts ruling against those seeking to follow the plain text of the law?
Everyone Barr’s age has seen much wickedness and corruption in our world over more than 50 years. This is found in rich and poor countries, advanced and undeveloped, educated and illiterate – in every nation under the sun. However, this can be restrained when justice is not perverted.
Why does Barr appear so powerless to bring people to book and allowing many anarchists to get away?
You haven’t noticed that everyone is afraid of Democrats?
Update:
Notice of Electronic Filing
The following transaction was entered on 9/29/2020 at 6:40 PM and filed on 9/29/2020
Case Name: USA v. FLYNN
Case Number: 1:17-cr-00232-EGS
Document Number: No document attached
Docket Text:
MINUTE ORDER as to MICHAEL T. FLYNN. In view of the discussion at today’s motion hearing, the government, Mr. Flynn, and the Court-appointed amicus curiae shall file any additional motions or supplemental materials regarding [198] the government’s motion to dismiss the criminal information against Mr. Flynn by no later than October 7, 2020. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on 9/29/2020. (lcegs3)
Delay, delay, delay.
Sidney Powell believes he doesn’t read her briefs. I thought Sullivan wanted no more fillings?
I did not follow all day, but at one point Sullivan admitted he is not up to date reading the filings. I thought that was a truly shocking (and revealing) admission.
He was having his cake and eating it.
He feigned shock at the new filings, too many for him to read prior to the hearing. Then he meets himself coming back by saying he needs more info from DOJ, such as did AG Barr or anyone from his department respond to Sidney letter, if so what was said?
He’s a show pony like his pal Gleeson. He’s bigging-up his walk on part and exploiting his opportunity for the good of the left.
General Flynn, President Trump and the faithful are still standing after the election for ‘ding, ding round two’.
We have stood and watched in awe as PDT has fought one handed and hopping on one leg. The next four years will not be for the faint hearted, it is going to be epic!
Chase the carrot until you puke and pass out.
Why does it say criminal information?
Flynn was not indicted. Indictment takes a grand jury.
Team Mueller used what is called an “inforamtion.”
https://palmbeachfederaldefense.com/blog/2019/10/what-is-the-difference-between-an-information-and-an-indictment-in-a-federal-criminal-case/
THANKS?
I believe we can now say that Adam Housley, Kevin Corke, et al aren’t “hope porn”. Yuuggge release past 5 days.
– FBI Barrett 302 interview – nothing there, agents taking out professional liability insurance
– Russian American sub source possibly a Russian spy – FBI & DOJ hide information
– Brennan given Russian Hoax by HRC
-> Russian Hoax debunked
-> Carter Page FISA debunked
-> HRC / Brennan masterminds of Russia Hoax
Housley has said its going to be a gradual reveal.
P.S. Housley is saying he knew “stuff” was coming out this week.
Stuff sounds plural.
One thing needs to be understood. The Left play to win and they don’t care about any rules or morals. Their base sees a win and they don’t care how, to them that’s just politics. So if someone confronts you with a gun don’t ask to see the permit.
The following is a bit of a rant to relieve some pressure.
Tomorrow President Trump should issue a statement that says the corrupt prosecution in Judge Sullivan’s court is a travesty and is undermining our judicial system. This corrupt judge is violating precedent, supporting an illegal and improper prosecution, and is part of the coup against the US. I promise, that General Flynn will not spend a day in jail. In fact, I will lay odds that Sullivan and his other conspirators will spend more time behind bars than the good general. I am about to release the Kraken.
I know he can’t say that, but I feel better saying it for him.
If Republicans retake the house, first order of business MUST be the impeachment of Judge Sullivan.
I also think, given his erratic behavior, you could make the case that there is sufficient predicate to investigate him. He’s doing someone else’s bidding and he’s probably on the take.
Oh, and to add to that – the Republicans should go after every judge on the DC circuit that voted to let this circus continue. They are an absolute, irredeemable disgrace.
Actually the censure and removal of Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi. Then they go after Sully.
I still have faith in the Constitution as originally conceived. What we heard today has nothing to do with the constitution as it is Flynn’s rights that Sullivan sullied. In my opinion, the 2 DC District Circuit and 8 Appellate court judges in the 4-year Flynn case have proven that they no longer belong on the bench.
I hope that the Gleeson amicus brief allowed in a criminal trial and Strzok’s lawyer’s letter entered into evidence have not set new precedents in criminal law were non-participants in a highly political case can enter conspiracy theory innuendo as accepted evidence, bypassing both the prosecution and defense.
My last thought is we should also thank God that Merrick Garland never was never elevated to SCOTUS.
What nobody on Flynn’s side ever shows up to the this clown show again since the Government has withdrawn the charges?
What if nobody.
Sullivan can not under any circumstance dismiss case with Prejudice. That opens all the traitors and persecutors of General Flynn culpable under the law. They are holding out hope Biden wins and President Trump has to pardon the General, and also stop all production of damming evidence.
In case of wrong doing by government officials that openly conspired to persecute an American citizen and attempt to throw him in jail with fabricated evidence I would think and also pray, (I am no lawyer)
1. If illegal activity lead to his rights being denied under color of law, the government can not claim nor the traitors, immunity for prosecution and loss of rights.
2. Any professional insurance will not cover an individual for willful breaking of the law, and it results in harm to a person. So basically what they own is about to belong to General Flynn.
3. The list of traitors is growing by the day. So is General Flynn payday. Just think of all the discovery from General Flynn case. Sidney Powell would need an army of lawyers to go after these people.
Under no circumstances can Sullivan dismiss with Prejudice. That nice home Obama owns might go up for sale for his legal bills. The irony would be off the scale.
“The irony would be off the scale.”
I disagree. That would be true justice, not irony.