The DOJ, Sidney Powell and the Sullivan appointed amicus John Gleeson will hold a hearing today in the courtroom of Judge Emmet Sullivan to argue the unopposed motion to dismiss the case against Michael Flynn. The hearing begins at 11:00am ET and you can call-in to hear the audio of the live courtroom events. (details below)
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UPDATE 2: Technical issues at the court. Recess called until 12:35pm ET to work on issues. I’m Dropping another link (YouTube) below that was not compromised during the “technical issues”.
UPDATE 3: Some more technical glitches and a 15 min bio break until 2:45pm ET
UPDATE 4: Hearing ended abruptly.
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If the true administration of justice was to prevail in this case, the judge should simply accept the unopposed motion and this would be the end of the malicious prosecution. However, this case has so many precedents anything is possible.
If you are listening-in to the hearing, feel free to drop your thoughts and opinions into the comment section to share.
Sullivan is looking for more ways to stall ruling on the case. I need the letter to the DOJ from Ms. Powell, I give a week to file the motion to recuse, blah, blah , blah!!!!
What a damn disgrace!! AG Barr needs to remove this crook Sullivan from the bench ASAP!!!
He should be disbarred from ever having anything to do with the law!!!!
AG Barr is not in charge of the Judicial Branch
Only Congress can remove a judge. AG Barr does not have that power. Barr can, however, make the judge look even worse by more declass and release of documents.
Did I miss something here?
Did Gleeson just respond “This is the first time I have had the pleasure to speak to this court…” in response to Sullivan’s question (not verbatim) “Mr. Gleeson have you and I ever had any conversation about this case before?”
that’s what I heard, too
I bet there was an intermediary. Contrasting with Powell speaking to the POTUS, I suppose. Though I don’t believe Gleeson is being truthful; there is no way this is not coordinated.
The government lawyers are terrible
Sullivan’s dismissive attitude toward Powell reeked of misogyny. I did not hear him speak to male attorneys with such a tone.
I had to wonder if Sidney is suffering from white privilege.
I am no lawyer or have any legal experience, but how is this judge getting away with all this mess? His hostility is very evident. His twisting of every precedent is very evident. Who is in charge of this man? Roberts?
Sullivan’s behavior is beyond bizarre it seems. Sidney can hold her own, but if this man is allowed to go off rogue on how a judge is supposed to conduct a case like this, how do you fight that?
Did the DOJ hotshot get to say anything? Did he bring some more information to the table? Did he again ask that the case be closed? Haven’t been able to listen, but following along here on CTH.
The only body that can do anything about a federal judge is the House and Senate.
Thanks!
And the only impeachment Nanzi and the House are interested in is that of POTUS.
All the questions about Trump and Barr. Is this just to rattle Powell or was he setting a perjury trap?
Maybe both?
It’s to make news. Bad faith all around.
The news is that judge questions Flynn’s lawer ethics, contact with Trump, and contact with Trump’s toadie, Barr.
For the debate tonight
I could hear the contempt he held for Powell in his voice. I agree though, this is probably the snippet that makes the news.
I would not be surprised if Sullivan doesn’t call for both POTUS and Barr to sit for depositions on the matter. It’s not only a perjury trap, it’s another impeachment trap based on obstruction of justice. Remember, our opposition knows no boundaries….not even the U.S. Constitution deters them.
Niagara Frontier says: “I would not be surprised if Sullivan doesn’t call for both POTUS and Barr to sit for depositions on the matter. It’s not only a perjury trap, it’s another impeachment trap based on obstruction of justice. Remember, our opposition knows no boundaries….not even the U.S. Constitution deters them.”
Yes … This could be what Sullivan’s game is all about. He is giving the Democrats in the House ammunition to impeach both AG Barr and President Trump on charges of obstruction of justice in the Flynn case.
This brings up another question.
What will Joe Biden be saying in tonight’s debate about the Democrat’s previous attempt at the impeachment and removal of Donald Trump? Will Biden be making further accusations which justify another attempt at impeachment and removal?
This is not getting any better just worse,
He’s an Obamabot who will do anything he can to protect the FBP.
Ah, DOJ now bringing up threats against Flynn’s son and side agreement.
Conflict of Interest with prior Counsel.
Not supporting at this time, but Court would have to deal with if not withdrawn.
Sullivan wants to know, if court denies government motion to dismiss, what happens next?
Should Flynn be allowed to withdraw his plea based on ineffective assistance of counsel.
Government says motion to dismiss guilty plea are to be liberally granted. Governmnet knows of no case wehre a defendnat who has moved to dismiss was sentenced without a trial. Also says that Flynn’s plea is alleged to have been made under duress. See notes filed on this case record. It is concerning that there are deals between lawyers not disclosed to the court. Sullivan would have to revisit that if he does not grant the motion to dismiss.
Government says there is no prosecutor for this case, if the motion to dismiss is not granted. There are zero cases wehre private prosecutors were allowed.
I wonder why this line of argument got lost in DOJ’s motion to dismiss and the appeal.
DOJ asks: how do you prosecute without a Prosecutor?
You wait until Biden steals the election and then appoint a new prosecutor.
Powell will immediately appeal to SCOTUS. Escalate.
Shoot I think Sullivan will appeal his own ruling to SCOTUS
The COUP Continues.
Yes, thanks to barr and durham
The judge is just pissed that the original plan did not work. Had Covington stayed involved, they would have “managed” Flynn’s prosecution the “right way” (wink, wink) and he’d have been in prison for over a year now. Sidney had the audacity to actually defend her client.
I have to agree that Justice and the Rule of Law appear to be dead in today’s America.
Ah, yes, Covington. The law firm of Sullivan’s good buddy Holder.
What conversations did Holder have with people involved in the case, including corrupt Sullivan?
Suspicious Sullivan now asks the DOJ what happens if I deny the motion, should i reconsider the motion to withdraw? Long DOJ explanation about motions to withdraw being liberally granted. DOJ says as a practical matter there is no path forward if DOJ declines to prosecute.
In Russia they poison political opposition. In the US, they litigate them to death.
I’ll take the poison if you don’t mind
This Moron that fancies himself a god should be removed from the Bench.
The process is the punishment!!
The coup defense process should be “part” of their punishment.
At that point, the mandamus should be taken up again by the en banc and dismissal mandated.
Yep. Sullivan is the King of his courtroom, and Ms. Powell is a serf who is pleading for that which will not be granted.
Of course there’s not another case like this one!! The crimes and corruptions of the Government are UNPRECEDENTED.
I’m rockin’ two conference calls at the same time… this one, and some work nonsense… this one’s better!
Seneca the Elder??
Well, the exposure is unprecedented ?
Unprecedented only if you exclude previous (and numerous) examples of Government.
This is just a total sham…General Flynn is a political prisoner.
First time listening to Sullivan.
Multiple choice:
a) Corrupt
b) Stupid
c) Both
corrupted
blackmailed
cuck
All this legal talk was discussed at the appeals court. Lawyers get caught up in process talk. This should stop. Where has a single argument been made discussing the the supposed purpose of this hearing. It’s either dismiss or not. The rest of it is bullshit.
We need a FREE FLYNN RALLY this weekend throughout the country in every city. Period. This General’s accomplishments in the theatre of combat saved countless American lives by streamlining the acting upon intel gathered on the front lines and cut out lazy analysts in Langley who might get back to you tomorrow. We need to get ANGRY!!!!! Make it FRONTPAGE HEADLINES.
In my thoughts, Sullivan will continue this ruse unless the DOJ indicts the players on why General Flynn originally plead guilty
We live in the world of New Justice now.
We live in the world of No Justice now. There, fixed it for you.
Post Justice Era.
Super impressed by the younger DOJ official speaking.
It should be dismissed with prejudice. No basis for this entire sh,tshow.
DOJ: “Abuse of Discretion” if not dimissed WITH Prejudice
Well, what if not even dismissed at all???
Is Sullivan as risk of Abuse of Discretion, leading to ‘strong letter’?
A Strongly-Worded Letter??? What is it?!?
It’s a letter with lots of words in it addressed to somebody in government … but that’s not important right now.
Now Sullivan is the police too and bringing up “uncharged criminal conduct.”
Right. We are all now standing on the corner of Batsh!t and Crazy streets.
Bruce Ohr will now cross-examine
cross examine judge Sullivan that is
If Sullivan doesn’t have a firm grip of how to dismiss, with or without prejudice, then he really is a stooge.
Sullivan is doing this on purpose. Obama has his back and he knows it. As I posted earlier, Sullivan is a celebrity now and he is all theatrics now until a higher judicial authority strikes him down.
Sullivan is what resistance, law-fare and judicial activism look like. To us, he looks like a jerk, to the left he looks like a guy who has brass balls.
A lot more than just Obama…
Now he asks another question: Can I deny the motion without prejudice? DOJ says its is an abuse of discretion to refuse the grant the motion, especially when both sides agree.
Now he is asking about “uncharged criminal conduct” (FARA violation) that Flynn admitted to, should any “future attorney general” of “future administration” decide to charge that conduct.
The DOJ already has the answer to that: there was no FARA violation.
Sullivan is providing us with his roadmap. Delay until the election. If Biden wins, delay until after inauguration, then new AG, then DOJ decides to continue prosecution.
Curious to know hoe Sullivan knew about Powell’s discussion with POTUS.
This future charging bit from Sullivan is just unbelievable.
A perversion of the court process.
Sounds like Flynn will get the dismissal but the question is whether with or without prejudice.
Now DOJ bringing up Covington conflicts again…
Rafikian: FARA dismissal due to misconduct
Dismissed as a matter of law after the jury returned a guilty verdict!
Pretty cool when you can be the investigator prosecutor and judge.
Yep.
Don’t forget jury, too
Like having an older brother.
Ha. So true.
LOL!
Sullivan now asserting that Flynn essentially pead guilty to uncharged criminal conduct. Can that be used against Flynn by another administration?
Sullivan then says not to read much into the question, he’s just probing the diff between dismiss with prejudice and without prejudice.
Dumb quesiton. Gove’t point out, those hypotheical cases aren’t affect by prejudice of not in this case – separate charges (FARA violations).
Government points out some hinky stuff in FARA (Covington conflict). Never admitted intent, knowing false filing. Co-defendeant was not convicted on account of this fatal flaw, after jury verdict.
The more they talk, the more conflicts are discussed and it will allow judge to have further hearings to clear things up. More hearings, more talk without addressing the elephant in the room. Dismiss the damn charges with dispatch!
This is what happens when no one is indicted for their crimes. They are all emboldened. Shame on you Barr.
Every time someone gives in to a bully, in the hopes that they will then stop making demands, is an idiot! Winston Churchill understood this and Neville Chamberlain did not, which is why millions of people died while all of the talking heads attempted to appease a madman!
Man up Barr and do your da*n job!!
Ah, the key is Prosecutorial Discretion, not legal rules on “materiality”.
They don’t want to bring the case anymore, whatever the evidence and rules.
https://twitter.com/reeveslawstl/status/1310996255917649926
I do not have the patience to be a trial lawyer.
My response would be “Hell, dismiss with prejudice, without prejudice, with the way things are going nothing would the Biden administration from immediately sending Flynn to jail.”
Hell to the yeah. Putting the materiality back of Sullivan sure shut the judge up.
DOJ trying to give the Judge a way out – ‘misled’
No Justice, No Peace.
This whole thing is a charade. They are going to get Flynn one way or another. Even if they have to invent a method to do it since Sullivan is essentially claiming that since there is no precedent for this particular set of circumstances, it is his prerogative to operate in any manner he himself sees fit.
There is no argument that the Gov can make, no documents that they can file, that will move Sullivan from his course.
There are those who believe that Sullivan is being blackmailed on some level and that explains his extreme behavior. If that is true, then the only thing that can change this is for that to be revealed.
I know! Since spying is the new norm, let’s have one of those contractors take a look-see at the NSA database and tell us exactly what who he’s beholden to.
Trump just needs to fire Wray and replace with Flynn…. easy-peasy.
Government notes that Sullivan never closed the loop on getting the element of materiality. He asked SC prosecutors to address that, but he never closed the loop.
https://twitter.com/reeveslawstl/status/1310996987353935873
perfectly stated.
Kohl is brilliant. His objective is different than Sidney’s. Hers is to get this dismissed. His is to appeal to Sullivan to do the right thing. Total difference in tone. Kohl’s role is not to defend Flynn, lest he sound like he is collaborating with Sidney. It’s an awful delicate line to tread. Not sure that Mooppan is achieving this. He’s slightly more emotionally invested in tone.
Kohl is walking Sullivan through how they discovered that these charges should be dismissed. He’s doing a good job of what he has to do, whether it impacts the outcome or not. He’s preserving the integrity of (Barr’s) DOJ decision to withdraw, impartially.
Nice analysis.
Now he is asking about “materiality” and takes another shot at Sidney for not moving to reconsider his prior decision on materiality. Cole now explains and goes back to the initial statement of offense. Notes that Suspicious Sullivan asked questions that “led to the unraveling” of this case. Cole notes that Crossfire Hurricane was not impacted by what Flynn said. Says DOJ can no longer prove materiality based upon what they know now — the truth. The truth is at odds with the Statement of Offense.
They are making an example of Flynn as to what will happen to you if you oppose the system. Why our founders wanted small government.
If you have not read it, get K. T. McFarland’s EXCELLENT book “Revolution: Trump, Washington, and “We the People””. I’m just at the point where Flynn was fired and McMaster appointed by my sister said the party where she is interviewed by the FBI is worse than we thought.
If Barr’s DOJ said it was prosecutorial misconduct, we wouldn’t be here. But Barr wanted to dismiss based on not being properly predicated, which is right but not muscular enough.
Yup. Judge Sullivan is exploiting the timidity inherent in AG Barr’s decision to protect institutions rather than see justice done by prosecuting Mueller’s crew.
DOJ and the FBI have already suffered major reputational damage with millions of Americans, so what is Barr actually protecting?, the institutional equivalent of the Titanic’s reputation just after it hit the iceberg?
The FBI is a badge gang.
The FBI should be disbanded with prejudice.
Wanna end this case pronto? Fire Wray and appoint General Flynn to interim FBI Director! General Flynn has been convicted of NOTHING and deserves a place back in the administration that was stolen from him via crossfire razor, you know the FBI. Sweet revenge if ever there is one! Come on man, to quote sleepy joe, do it President Trump.
Yep. This could be what the deep state is worried about.
DOJ presenting very strong case based on evidence.
Sullivan is having a hard time finding a rock to stand on.
Now getting into Logan Act: “legit”
Setting out the frame up before interview, and conflicting evidence of innocence.
Now: “get him fired?”
“Up to Director of FBI”
“Not the FBI’s job.”
Wow. Good.
Lemme guess that it would be Lindsay Graham to spearhead any impeachment actions against Sullivan.
Nancy Pelosi?
I thought it was the Senate who approved these Judges. Am I wrong?
I believe impeachment for judges and the President start in the House. Senate confirms, no?
I haven’t attended school in many, many…many years. And now when I read stuff I forget half of it.
Sullivan is a U.S. District Court Judge which means he is a federal judge. The House has the authority to impeach and the Senate decides removal of federal judges.
Indeed!
Yep. He will “schedule” a hearing; right after the twelfth of never.
Yes, right after he releases that stuff he claimed was worse then the worst he said was the worst that he hinted at.
Seriously, how bad would it be if Lindsey lost?
Impeachment has to start in the House. Simple majority. 2/3rds to convict in the Senate.
Ok, thanks.
House would have to impeach first, which won’t happen as long as dems control House.
The Court of Appeals is to blame for this clown show. They were stuck on process and not the person being denied his constitutional rights. Granting mandamus would have prevented this useless hearing.
Great minds think alike!!!
This is the outcome the DC Circuit wanted.